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pittiGood morning06:16
didrocksgood morning07:01
seb128good morning desktopers!07:57
happyaronmorning seb12807:58
seb128hey happyaron, how are you?07:58
happyarongreat, :)07:58
didrockshey seb128, happyaron07:59
seb128lut didrocks :-)08:00
happyarondidrocks hey, :)08:01
* didrocks now waits for ubuntu-make to build everywhere before blogging08:03
pittibonjour seb128 et didrocks08:09
pittihey happyaron08:09
didrocksmorning pitti08:09
seb128hey pitti, wie gehts?08:10
pittiseb128: gut, danke!08:15
pittiplayed basketball again after 4 weeks last night; it was great08:15
seb128nice08:15
seb128I played tennis yesterday, was great as well ;-)08:16
pittiseb128: oh, dehors ? Il fait très froid ..08:17
seb128pitti, oui, dehors, il fait froid mais il n'y avait pas de vent et quand tu bouges ça va08:18
happyaronhey pitti, :)08:19
pittivrai ; j'ai joué un peu lundi; seul, ... just to practice my throws08:19
pitti(outside in the park, too)08:19
TheMusoHey willcooke.08:23
TheMusoAnd hello to everyone else. :)08:23
willcookehey TheMuso08:24
seb128hey TheMuso willcooke08:24
willcookeTheMuso, just getting ready for school, be with you in 5 mins08:24
TheMusowillcooke: No worries.08:24
didrockshey TheMuso, willcooke08:27
mlankhorstmorning08:28
willcookemorning seb128 didrocks mlankhorst08:29
willcookeTheMuso, 2 more mins...08:29
TheMusowillcooke: No problem.08:30
Guest54456hey hey09:03
Guest54456GOD09:04
Guest54456WHY09:04
Guest54456might keep this nickname all day in protest09:04
seb128hey Laney09:04
seb128lol09:04
seb128what happened there?09:04
Guest54456must have been disconnected overnight09:04
Guest54456ah09:05
Guest5445622/01 09:05:17 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- You are already logged in as Laney.09:05
Guest54456I accidentally quit irssi, must have been changed before I logged back in09:05
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Laneyso, hello!09:05
willcookeQUOTE:09:07
willcookeBlackberry CEO John Chen thinks that companies should be forced to develop apps for his platform (TechCrunch). He accused Netflix, amongst others, of discriminating against Blackberry and called on lawmakers in the US to enforce "application neutrality".09:07
mlankhorsthahahahah09:07
mlankhorstI'm surprised a certain other os that's also not succesfull whines about it yet :P09:07
LaneyCanonical developer Maarten Lankhorst was quoted as saying "What a great idea"09:08
didrockshey Laney, mlankhorst09:08
Laneyhey didrocks, how are you?09:09
didrocksLaney: headache and starting to catch a cold, so not at my maximum mind velocity TBH :p (which isn't great already)09:09
didrocksand you?09:09
Laneyoh gosh, get some rest!09:09
LaneyI'm alright yeah09:10
didrocksLaney: yeah, I plan to do mind-free tasks now that the intellij breakage is under control :)09:10
didrockslike patch piloting, a little bit of man pages writings…09:10
Laneysome nice looking LCA summaries on LWN this week. ;)09:12
* didrocks does LWN catchup on Friday09:12
seb128didrocks, Laney, can you sanity check http://paste.ubuntu.com/9816735/ for me?09:24
* didrocks looks09:26
seb128"not configure"*09:26
seb128(removing the second "to")09:27
seb128in the comment09:27
seb128hum, or not?09:27
didrocksseb128: sounds good to me, idemnpotent and you source the needed resources IMHO09:28
didrocksseb128: have you tried it already?09:29
seb128didrocks, no, downloading the current daily atm09:29
didrocks(of course, think about chmod +x ;))09:29
LaneyI don't understand the point of the prereq function09:29
seb128Laney, I'm not sure, but all the other scripts in that dir have that snippet so I just copied/based on that09:30
seb128oh, it fact they don't all have it09:30
seb128but most do09:30
Laneylooks okay to me otherwise09:36
LaneyI guess it's some facility to have scripts be able to have pre requisites09:36
Laneybut in this case it does nothing since PREREQS is empty09:37
Laneymight be better to have it be there for future use09:37
seb128k, I keep it09:37
seb128didrocks, Laney, thanks09:37
didrocksyw!09:37
seb128Laney, english question, the second "to" should be there or not? /me is unsure09:37
seb128"# Users want to try unity8, not to configure their system"09:38
willcookecorrect09:38
seb128thanks09:38
LaneyI think it works both ways09:40
Laneyso what evs09:40
seb128nice to update the phone and see the daily improvements09:51
seb128with today updates the camera app has options to choose the image quality now, and to display a grid09:52
willcookehey Saviq10:20
willcookeSaviq, you know how you and I are best buddies, and how I always tell people what a great guy you are?10:21
willcookewell, now it's time for *you* to do *me* a favour.10:21
willcookeDoes this need your blessing?  https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/qtmir/fix-GTK-rendering/+merge/24620110:22
mlankhorstwillcooke: for xmir you don't need anything right now?11:59
willcookemlankhorst, I think we're good thanks12:10
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Laneydidrocks: want to try the ido in silo 028 to see if it fixes indicator-sound for you?12:27
didrocksLaney: sure, will do (in ~30 minutes, need some rest due to headache aggravating)12:28
Laney:(12:34
Laneyfeel better :(12:34
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mlankhorstmeh, my patch to make glamor work broke other stuff13:08
willcookefolks, who can help me with this:13:14
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/oem-priority/+bug/138229113:14
ubot5Launchpad bug 1382291 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Account creation during first boot of an OEM image needs to scale based on resolution" [Critical,Confirmed]13:14
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Sweet5harkLaney: thanks for that drive-by no-change rebuild of libreoffice for poppler!14:25
Laneynp14:31
Sweet5harkmterry: ... and thanks for the MIR reviews.14:42
Sweet5harkseb128: around?14:42
seb128Sweet5hark, yes14:42
mterrySweet5hark, :)14:43
mterrySweet5hark, those were relatively easy oones14:44
Sweet5harkseb128: so, I merged from debian, tested/tweaked the autopkgtests, added the MIR deps and am currently upload for a armhf test14:44
Sweet5harkmterry: because of standard autotools foo for a plain lib?14:44
mterrySweet5hark, modern packaging and didn't have to worry about code itself because it was in main already14:45
Sweet5harkseb128: if that arm build succeeds, I like to land that in vivid (as rc2), so as not to have a mir and mayor upstream release and FOSDEM and $stuff all at the same time.14:46
Sweet5harkmterry: I will try to make things as easy as possible in the future too ;)14:47
Sweet5harkseb128: currently there are only some ~25 additional commits upstream on top of rc2, so we should be okish to release a rc ...14:48
didrocksLaney: ido fix works well in my guest session14:48
larsu\o/14:50
didrocksnice work ;)14:51
seb128Sweet5hark, sounds good, let me know when it's ready and I can upload for you14:56
Sweet5harkseb128: k, will do.14:59
mlankhorstbleh glamor's stupid15:23
mlankhorstred and blue are inverted in metacity with Xmir, nothing I can do about it right now. I need to understand what's going on more first..15:24
seb128mlankhorst, hey, do you have documentation on xmir/what it is exactly/how it works technically? for those who want to understand it better :-)15:24
seb128mlankhorst, also is that something separate from other components, or do we need patches to xorg or mir to get it to run?15:25
mlankhorstseb128: it's a dumb wrapper for glamor with some support for dri2 that's currently broken15:25
mlankhorstit's a separate standalone xserver in the xorg-server source15:25
mlankhorstbut the egl acceleration needs some patching to work on es2, it mostly assumes es315:26
Laneydidrocks: thanks (was larsu who did it), releasing15:26
mlankhorstseb128: no patches to mir are needed, but input and cursors don't work right because mir doesn't support enough yet..15:27
seb128k15:27
mlankhorstrotation works, is there anything you want to know specifically?15:27
didrockslarsu: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/gtk/images-in-menubars/+merge/246307 seems that its merged upstream, right?15:35
larsudidrocks: yes, I pushed it15:40
larsuonly to master though15:41
didrockslarsu: do you think it worthes that we merge as a distro-patch to the gtk branch?15:41
didrocksor should we wait for next release?15:41
larsudidrocks: I think we should (thus I made the MR) - somebody from xfce asked for it15:42
didrockslarsu: ok15:42
didrocksLaney: do you have anything else in the pipe for gtk? (meaning: do I just stack the fix for a later upload?)15:42
Laneyno, please upload, but scan the queue to make sure there's nothing else if you don't mind15:43
didrocksLaney: sure, just doing that15:43
larsudidrocks: thanks!15:43
didrocksthanks to you :)15:44
larsuLaney: btw, I found that gedit encoding combo box issue15:44
larsuLaney: also found out that it's fixed in 3-12 :/15:45
Laneyheh15:46
willcookemlankhorst, seb128 - we should write a wiki page.  I'll put it on my list of things to do15:47
seb128willcooke, thanks15:47
* didrocks does a sanity build15:47
Laneylet's work on getting to 3.14 then15:47
larsuthat's what I'm doing right now15:48
larsujust letting you know ;)15:48
Laneysure, thanks for the heads up!15:48
* Laney digs out the touch laptop to look at GtkGesture stuff15:49
desrtLaney: enjoying the netbsd stickers? :)15:51
Laneythey make me feel like a fraud :p15:56
mlankhorstwillcooke: where?15:58
willcookemlankhorst, for the wiki page?  Dunno, I'll chuck it up on the Ubuntu wiki somewhere15:59
mlankhorstshould probably be part of the u8 stuff15:59
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Sweet5harkseb128: hmmm, what happened with the libcmis-0.5.0 sync from experimental? cant find it in main/-proposed or the vivid-queue?16:03
seb128Sweet5hark, sorry, I guess I forgot, doing that now16:05
Sweet5harkseb128: np, thanks!16:07
willcookemlankhorst, good call16:09
mlankhorstXmir *can* run as replacement for the standalone Xserver, but it's not nearly feature complete to be an enjoyable experience :P16:16
didrocksLaney: some gtk tests are known to be racy, right? (just confirming as I'm getting some tests randomly failing in my sbuild)16:22
* didrocks hasn't uploaded gtk for a long time in distro16:22
Laneyerm16:23
Laneythey are quite reliable for me16:23
Laneyand on the builders too16:23
Laneypush it and I'll try16:23
didrocksLaney: done16:23
Laneyty16:24
didrocksthanks for trying :)16:24
Cimikenvandine, I tested like 200k times and it always switch to continue :)16:24
Cimiboth mako and krillin16:24
CimiI will try again...16:24
kenvandineCimi, sorry... didn't for me ... i tried twice16:24
kenvandineit was checked when it connected16:25
kenvandinebut still said skip16:25
Cimikenvandine, did you wait like 2-3 sec?16:25
Cimikenvandine, the check turns green but it is not connected yet16:25
kenvandineyeah... much longer16:25
Cimiah ok16:26
kenvandinei waited a good 30s16:26
Cimihere turns continue after 2 sec16:26
Cimikenvandine, do you have a sim card in?16:26
kenvandineCimi, oh.. and ifconfig confirmed it had an IP16:26
kenvandineno sim16:26
Cimisame condition16:26
Cimiweird16:26
Cimihave no idea then16:26
kenvandineso i know it connected and had an IP16:26
Cimiwill try rtm on mako16:26
kenvandinethx16:26
kenvandinesorry... i was hopeful :)16:27
CimiI tried rtm only on krillin16:27
kenvandinei can't imagine that would matter...16:31
kenvandineunless it's qml-module-qtsysteminfo16:31
kenvandinei guess that could be blowing up on mako16:31
Laneydidrocks: (lt-gtk-reftest:3195): Gtk-WARNING **: Invalid icon size 016:34
Laney/build/gtk+3.0-78JpNx/gtk+3.0-3.14.7/testsuite/reftests/gtk-icontheme-sizing.ui: FAIL16:34
LaneyThat sounds like it's a legit failure from this change16:34
Laneyorrrrrr ...16:35
didrocksyeah, seem that the change can impact it, larsu? ^16:37
Laneyno wait16:38
didrockshum?16:38
* didrocks is too head-broken to have a clear thinking, will probably go off soon…16:38
larsuLaney: are you sure? The patch was in GtkImageMenuItem, which isn't in that reftest at all16:42
LaneyI said "no wait"16:42
* larsu waits16:42
larsumaybe we're still missing pan-down-symbolic?16:43
Laneydidrocks: try that16:54
willcookedidrocks, get well16:56
didrockswillcooke: thanks16:58
GunnarHjpitti: ping?16:58
didrocksLaney: ah, makes sense16:59
didrocksLaney: I'll go to get some rest now, either upload it or I will do it tomorrow morning16:59
* didrocks waves good evening and good night17:01
Cimikenvandine, mako rtm doesn't work with it17:06
Cimikenvandine, I will try debugging17:06
Cimikenvandine, can you try krillin too with rtm to see if works for you?17:06
Cimikenvandine, could be a qt bug in the rtm version17:06
kenvandineCimi, my krillin is vivid atm, i'd rather not switch it right now17:07
kenvandineit's my daily driver :)17:07
Cimikenvandine, ok, you can try vivid too17:07
kenvandinethen it would be in unity817:08
kenvandinelet me find someone else to test it17:08
Cimikenvandine, when CI will finish to build https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/unity8/fix-1363400/+merge/24712917:08
Cimikenvandine, anyway mako rtm is a confirmed failure for me17:09
Cimikenvandine, vivid rtm mako was fine17:09
Cimivivid mako17:09
CimiI will try again rtm tomorrow17:10
LaneyGtkGestures seem to work well17:24
* Laney gets out the BFG17:24
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* willcooke EOD18:44
Sweet5harkseb128: thx for libcmis! ;)19:02
seb128Sweet5hark, yw!19:14
Sweet5harklibreoffice build now running on amd64,ppc,i386,armhf -- thus calling it EOD19:17
seb128Sweet5hark, have fun!19:20

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