[06:16] <pitti> Good morning
[07:01] <didrocks> good morning
[07:57] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[07:58] <happyaron> morning seb128
[07:58] <seb128> hey happyaron, how are you?
[07:58] <happyaron> great, :)
[07:59] <didrocks> hey seb128, happyaron
[08:00] <seb128> lut didrocks :-)
[08:01] <happyaron> didrocks hey, :)
[08:03]  * didrocks now waits for ubuntu-make to build everywhere before blogging
[08:09] <pitti> bonjour seb128 et didrocks
[08:09] <pitti> hey happyaron
[08:09] <didrocks> morning pitti
[08:10] <seb128> hey pitti, wie gehts?
[08:15] <pitti> seb128: gut, danke!
[08:15] <pitti> played basketball again after 4 weeks last night; it was great
[08:15] <seb128> nice
[08:16] <seb128> I played tennis yesterday, was great as well ;-)
[08:17] <pitti> seb128: oh, dehors ? Il fait très froid ..
[08:18] <seb128> pitti, oui, dehors, il fait froid mais il n'y avait pas de vent et quand tu bouges ça va
[08:19] <happyaron> hey pitti, :)
[08:19] <pitti> vrai ; j'ai joué un peu lundi; seul, ... just to practice my throws
[08:19] <pitti> (outside in the park, too)
[08:23] <TheMuso> Hey willcooke.
[08:23] <TheMuso> And hello to everyone else. :)
[08:24] <willcooke> hey TheMuso
[08:24] <seb128> hey TheMuso willcooke
[08:24] <willcooke> TheMuso, just getting ready for school, be with you in 5 mins
[08:24] <TheMuso> willcooke: No worries.
[08:27] <didrocks> hey TheMuso, willcooke
[08:28] <mlankhorst> morning
[08:29] <willcooke> morning seb128 didrocks mlankhorst
[08:29] <willcooke> TheMuso, 2 more mins...
[08:30] <TheMuso> willcooke: No problem.
[09:03] <Guest54456> hey hey
[09:04] <Guest54456> GOD
[09:04] <Guest54456> WHY
[09:04] <Guest54456> might keep this nickname all day in protest
[09:04] <seb128> hey Laney
[09:04] <seb128> lol
[09:04] <seb128> what happened there?
[09:04] <Guest54456> must have been disconnected overnight
[09:05] <Guest54456> ah
[09:05] <Guest54456> 22/01 09:05:17 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- You are already logged in as Laney.
[09:05] <Guest54456> I accidentally quit irssi, must have been changed before I logged back in
[09:05] <Laney> so, hello!
[09:07] <willcooke> QUOTE:
[09:07] <willcooke> Blackberry CEO John Chen thinks that companies should be forced to develop apps for his platform (TechCrunch). He accused Netflix, amongst others, of discriminating against Blackberry and called on lawmakers in the US to enforce "application neutrality".
[09:07] <mlankhorst> hahahahah
[09:07] <mlankhorst> I'm surprised a certain other os that's also not succesfull whines about it yet :P
[09:08] <Laney> Canonical developer Maarten Lankhorst was quoted as saying "What a great idea"
[09:08] <didrocks> hey Laney, mlankhorst
[09:09] <Laney> hey didrocks, how are you?
[09:09] <didrocks> Laney: headache and starting to catch a cold, so not at my maximum mind velocity TBH :p (which isn't great already)
[09:09] <didrocks> and you?
[09:09] <Laney> oh gosh, get some rest!
[09:10] <Laney> I'm alright yeah
[09:10] <didrocks> Laney: yeah, I plan to do mind-free tasks now that the intellij breakage is under control :)
[09:10] <didrocks> like patch piloting, a little bit of man pages writings…
[09:12] <Laney> some nice looking LCA summaries on LWN this week. ;)
[09:12]  * didrocks does LWN catchup on Friday
[09:24] <seb128> didrocks, Laney, can you sanity check http://paste.ubuntu.com/9816735/ for me?
[09:26]  * didrocks looks
[09:26] <seb128> "not configure"*
[09:27] <seb128> (removing the second "to")
[09:27] <seb128> in the comment
[09:27] <seb128> hum, or not?
[09:28] <didrocks> seb128: sounds good to me, idemnpotent and you source the needed resources IMHO
[09:29] <didrocks> seb128: have you tried it already?
[09:29] <seb128> didrocks, no, downloading the current daily atm
[09:29] <didrocks> (of course, think about chmod +x ;))
[09:29] <Laney> I don't understand the point of the prereq function
[09:30] <seb128> Laney, I'm not sure, but all the other scripts in that dir have that snippet so I just copied/based on that
[09:30] <seb128> oh, it fact they don't all have it
[09:30] <seb128> but most do
[09:36] <Laney> looks okay to me otherwise
[09:36] <Laney> I guess it's some facility to have scripts be able to have pre requisites
[09:37] <Laney> but in this case it does nothing since PREREQS is empty
[09:37] <Laney> might be better to have it be there for future use
[09:37] <seb128> k, I keep it
[09:37] <seb128> didrocks, Laney, thanks
[09:37] <didrocks> yw!
[09:37] <seb128> Laney, english question, the second "to" should be there or not? /me is unsure
[09:38] <seb128> "# Users want to try unity8, not to configure their system"
[09:38] <willcooke> correct
[09:38] <seb128> thanks
[09:40] <Laney> I think it works both ways
[09:40] <Laney> so what evs
[09:51] <seb128> nice to update the phone and see the daily improvements
[09:52] <seb128> with today updates the camera app has options to choose the image quality now, and to display a grid
[10:20] <willcooke> hey Saviq
[10:21] <willcooke> Saviq, you know how you and I are best buddies, and how I always tell people what a great guy you are?
[10:21] <willcooke> well, now it's time for *you* to do *me* a favour.
[10:22] <willcooke> Does this need your blessing?  https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/qtmir/fix-GTK-rendering/+merge/246201
[11:59] <mlankhorst> willcooke: for xmir you don't need anything right now?
[12:10] <willcooke> mlankhorst, I think we're good thanks
[12:27] <Laney> didrocks: want to try the ido in silo 028 to see if it fixes indicator-sound for you?
[12:28] <didrocks> Laney: sure, will do (in ~30 minutes, need some rest due to headache aggravating)
[12:34] <Laney> :(
[12:34] <Laney> feel better :(
[13:08] <mlankhorst> meh, my patch to make glamor work broke other stuff
[13:14] <willcooke> folks, who can help me with this:
[13:14] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/oem-priority/+bug/1382291
[14:25] <Sweet5hark> Laney: thanks for that drive-by no-change rebuild of libreoffice for poppler!
[14:31] <Laney> np
[14:42] <Sweet5hark> mterry: ... and thanks for the MIR reviews.
[14:42] <Sweet5hark> seb128: around?
[14:42] <seb128> Sweet5hark, yes
[14:43] <mterry> Sweet5hark, :)
[14:44] <mterry> Sweet5hark, those were relatively easy oones
[14:44] <Sweet5hark> seb128: so, I merged from debian, tested/tweaked the autopkgtests, added the MIR deps and am currently upload for a armhf test
[14:44] <Sweet5hark> mterry: because of standard autotools foo for a plain lib?
[14:45] <mterry> Sweet5hark, modern packaging and didn't have to worry about code itself because it was in main already
[14:46] <Sweet5hark> seb128: if that arm build succeeds, I like to land that in vivid (as rc2), so as not to have a mir and mayor upstream release and FOSDEM and $stuff all at the same time.
[14:47] <Sweet5hark> mterry: I will try to make things as easy as possible in the future too ;)
[14:48] <Sweet5hark> seb128: currently there are only some ~25 additional commits upstream on top of rc2, so we should be okish to release a rc ...
[14:48] <didrocks> Laney: ido fix works well in my guest session
[14:50] <larsu> \o/
[14:51] <didrocks> nice work ;)
[14:56] <seb128> Sweet5hark, sounds good, let me know when it's ready and I can upload for you
[14:59] <Sweet5hark> seb128: k, will do.
[15:23] <mlankhorst> bleh glamor's stupid
[15:24] <mlankhorst> red and blue are inverted in metacity with Xmir, nothing I can do about it right now. I need to understand what's going on more first..
[15:24] <seb128> mlankhorst, hey, do you have documentation on xmir/what it is exactly/how it works technically? for those who want to understand it better :-)
[15:25] <seb128> mlankhorst, also is that something separate from other components, or do we need patches to xorg or mir to get it to run?
[15:25] <mlankhorst> seb128: it's a dumb wrapper for glamor with some support for dri2 that's currently broken
[15:25] <mlankhorst> it's a separate standalone xserver in the xorg-server source
[15:26] <mlankhorst> but the egl acceleration needs some patching to work on es2, it mostly assumes es3
[15:26] <Laney> didrocks: thanks (was larsu who did it), releasing
[15:27] <mlankhorst> seb128: no patches to mir are needed, but input and cursors don't work right because mir doesn't support enough yet..
[15:27] <seb128> k
[15:27] <mlankhorst> rotation works, is there anything you want to know specifically?
[15:35] <didrocks> larsu: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/gtk/images-in-menubars/+merge/246307 seems that its merged upstream, right?
[15:40] <larsu> didrocks: yes, I pushed it
[15:41] <larsu> only to master though
[15:41] <didrocks> larsu: do you think it worthes that we merge as a distro-patch to the gtk branch?
[15:41] <didrocks> or should we wait for next release?
[15:42] <larsu> didrocks: I think we should (thus I made the MR) - somebody from xfce asked for it
[15:42] <didrocks> larsu: ok
[15:42] <didrocks> Laney: do you have anything else in the pipe for gtk? (meaning: do I just stack the fix for a later upload?)
[15:43] <Laney> no, please upload, but scan the queue to make sure there's nothing else if you don't mind
[15:43] <didrocks> Laney: sure, just doing that
[15:43] <larsu> didrocks: thanks!
[15:44] <didrocks> thanks to you :)
[15:44] <larsu> Laney: btw, I found that gedit encoding combo box issue
[15:45] <larsu> Laney: also found out that it's fixed in 3-12 :/
[15:46] <Laney> heh
[15:47] <willcooke> mlankhorst, seb128 - we should write a wiki page.  I'll put it on my list of things to do
[15:47] <seb128> willcooke, thanks
[15:47]  * didrocks does a sanity build
[15:47] <Laney> let's work on getting to 3.14 then
[15:48] <larsu> that's what I'm doing right now
[15:48] <larsu> just letting you know ;)
[15:48] <Laney> sure, thanks for the heads up!
[15:49]  * Laney digs out the touch laptop to look at GtkGesture stuff
[15:51] <desrt> Laney: enjoying the netbsd stickers? :)
[15:56] <Laney> they make me feel like a fraud :p
[15:58] <mlankhorst> willcooke: where?
[15:59] <willcooke> mlankhorst, for the wiki page?  Dunno, I'll chuck it up on the Ubuntu wiki somewhere
[15:59] <mlankhorst> should probably be part of the u8 stuff
[16:03] <Sweet5hark> seb128: hmmm, what happened with the libcmis-0.5.0 sync from experimental? cant find it in main/-proposed or the vivid-queue?
[16:05] <seb128> Sweet5hark, sorry, I guess I forgot, doing that now
[16:07] <Sweet5hark> seb128: np, thanks!
[16:09] <willcooke> mlankhorst, good call
[16:16] <mlankhorst> Xmir *can* run as replacement for the standalone Xserver, but it's not nearly feature complete to be an enjoyable experience :P
[16:22] <didrocks> Laney: some gtk tests are known to be racy, right? (just confirming as I'm getting some tests randomly failing in my sbuild)
[16:22]  * didrocks hasn't uploaded gtk for a long time in distro
[16:23] <Laney> erm
[16:23] <Laney> they are quite reliable for me
[16:23] <Laney> and on the builders too
[16:23] <Laney> push it and I'll try
[16:23] <didrocks> Laney: done
[16:24] <Laney> ty
[16:24] <didrocks> thanks for trying :)
[16:24] <Cimi> kenvandine, I tested like 200k times and it always switch to continue :)
[16:24] <Cimi> both mako and krillin
[16:24] <Cimi> I will try again...
[16:24] <kenvandine> Cimi, sorry... didn't for me ... i tried twice
[16:25] <kenvandine> it was checked when it connected
[16:25] <kenvandine> but still said skip
[16:25] <Cimi> kenvandine, did you wait like 2-3 sec?
[16:25] <Cimi> kenvandine, the check turns green but it is not connected yet
[16:25] <kenvandine> yeah... much longer
[16:26] <Cimi> ah ok
[16:26] <kenvandine> i waited a good 30s
[16:26] <Cimi> here turns continue after 2 sec
[16:26] <Cimi> kenvandine, do you have a sim card in?
[16:26] <kenvandine> Cimi, oh.. and ifconfig confirmed it had an IP
[16:26] <kenvandine> no sim
[16:26] <Cimi> same condition
[16:26] <Cimi> weird
[16:26] <Cimi> have no idea then
[16:26] <kenvandine> so i know it connected and had an IP
[16:26] <Cimi> will try rtm on mako
[16:26] <kenvandine> thx
[16:27] <kenvandine> sorry... i was hopeful :)
[16:27] <Cimi> I tried rtm only on krillin
[16:31] <kenvandine> i can't imagine that would matter...
[16:31] <kenvandine> unless it's qml-module-qtsysteminfo
[16:31] <kenvandine> i guess that could be blowing up on mako
[16:34] <Laney> didrocks: (lt-gtk-reftest:3195): Gtk-WARNING **: Invalid icon size 0
[16:34] <Laney> /build/gtk+3.0-78JpNx/gtk+3.0-3.14.7/testsuite/reftests/gtk-icontheme-sizing.ui: FAIL
[16:34] <Laney> That sounds like it's a legit failure from this change
[16:35] <Laney> orrrrrr ...
[16:37] <didrocks> yeah, seem that the change can impact it, larsu? ^
[16:38] <Laney> no wait
[16:38] <didrocks> hum?
[16:38]  * didrocks is too head-broken to have a clear thinking, will probably go off soon…
[16:42] <larsu> Laney: are you sure? The patch was in GtkImageMenuItem, which isn't in that reftest at all
[16:42] <Laney> I said "no wait"
[16:42]  * larsu waits
[16:43] <larsu> maybe we're still missing pan-down-symbolic?
[16:54] <Laney> didrocks: try that
[16:56] <willcooke> didrocks, get well
[16:58] <didrocks> willcooke: thanks
[16:58] <GunnarHj> pitti: ping?
[16:59] <didrocks> Laney: ah, makes sense
[16:59] <didrocks> Laney: I'll go to get some rest now, either upload it or I will do it tomorrow morning
[17:01]  * didrocks waves good evening and good night
[17:06] <Cimi> kenvandine, mako rtm doesn't work with it
[17:06] <Cimi> kenvandine, I will try debugging
[17:06] <Cimi> kenvandine, can you try krillin too with rtm to see if works for you?
[17:06] <Cimi> kenvandine, could be a qt bug in the rtm version
[17:07] <kenvandine> Cimi, my krillin is vivid atm, i'd rather not switch it right now
[17:07] <kenvandine> it's my daily driver :)
[17:07] <Cimi> kenvandine, ok, you can try vivid too
[17:08] <kenvandine> then it would be in unity8
[17:08] <kenvandine> let me find someone else to test it
[17:08] <Cimi> kenvandine, when CI will finish to build https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/unity8/fix-1363400/+merge/247129
[17:09] <Cimi> kenvandine, anyway mako rtm is a confirmed failure for me
[17:09] <Cimi> kenvandine, vivid rtm mako was fine
[17:09] <Cimi> vivid mako
[17:10] <Cimi> I will try again rtm tomorrow
[17:24] <Laney> GtkGestures seem to work well
[17:24]  * Laney gets out the BFG
[18:44]  * willcooke EOD
[19:02] <Sweet5hark> seb128: thx for libcmis! ;)
[19:14] <seb128> Sweet5hark, yw!
[19:17] <Sweet5hark> libreoffice build now running on amd64,ppc,i386,armhf -- thus calling it EOD
[19:20] <seb128> Sweet5hark, have fun!