[05:48] morning all [05:53] hi bduk [05:55] More Kilos and others [06:09] Good morning [06:10] morning gremble [06:27] hi gremble and Kilos [06:27] ohi superfly [06:30] welcome back, bduk [06:31] hehe [06:31] dam ekdom switch the power of fortunately i have a tab [06:32] hows the family superfly ? [06:32] wow even govt power switched off [06:33] jip another waisted day eksdom doesnt care [06:34] where are all those inmates gonna get pap from now [06:34] box pap [06:35] Kilos: all good [06:36] dont know and dont care not my prob. Uncle Jan thought about that when he landed in the cape and install some boilers for us [06:36] great [06:36] haha [06:45] good mornings [06:46] morning inetpro [06:48] hmm... [06:48] bduk: loadshedding? [06:55] inetpro i thought so but apparently they are servicing our substations [06:55] ah [07:29] someone (i think the fly) spoke about us linking up with other african countries the other night [07:30] i have prepared a message to namibia admin guys, can someone please edit it for me [07:30] http://slexy.org/view/s2paEt2Gfw [07:31] or approve disapprove the idea [07:32] haha that chased him [07:33] wb gremble === gremble is now known as Guest58397 [07:53] or maybe give me a basic template to use [08:06] plustwo what are you breaking [08:31] good morning [08:31] Maaz: coffee on [08:31] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [08:31] hi charl [08:31] hi Kilos [08:31] how are you this morning [08:31] um [08:31] dunno actually and you? [08:31] i'm good ! [08:31] Maaz coffee please [08:31] Kilos: Sure [08:32] Maaz with cremora [08:32] Ah! At last someone with taste [08:32] Maaz: with rusks [08:32] There is a packet of Ouma's in the cupboard charl help yourself [08:32] good, good [08:32] brb [08:35] Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! [08:35] Maaz ty [08:35] You are welcome Kilos [08:37] Maaz: danke [08:37] Bitteschön [08:37] Kilos: did you hear about the web version of whatsapp ? [08:37] i can recall you asking to do pidgin whatsapp before [08:37] nope charl [08:38] oh yes [08:38] it only works in google chrome though [08:38] even chromium seems not to be supported [08:38] and you still need a mobile phone, also one that can scan a QR code [08:38] i have the plugin for pidgin working but cant get whatsapp to send me my password to the fone first [08:39] there is a way you ask for the code and they sms it to your fone but i cant get that to work [08:40] ah [08:40] all i need is that code then it will work in pidgin [08:40] well if you have chrome and you can scan QR codes you could try it [08:40] i have no idea how to scan but let me install chrome then we can look at it [08:40] https://www.whatsapp.com/faq/en/web/28080003 [08:41] ty [08:41] first read the faq to see if it will work for you before installing chrome though [08:41] np [08:43] whew [08:45] haha i have probs getting the pc to even see the fone [08:45] will wait for sis to come home and get her bb data cable [08:47] im not impressed with the vodacom service with blackberry. sis has been offline for a month in this area, but it works everywhere else, even namibia [08:48] im sure the prob is the tower/s in this area that arent activated with bb. but they keep telling her to take it to the shop for setting up. [08:48] thats after like 10 times going through all the settings with them online [08:48] swines [08:50] 10 ks from here in any direction it works [08:52] yeah it's similar here [08:53] when i was in hospital three years ago i could only get gprs and barely [08:53] and then a few KM further away it works perfectly [08:53] just the hospital was in a blind spot [08:53] if it wasnt for all the family having whatsapp id forget the idea [08:53] i was offline for almost a week [08:54] ya but we arent in a blind spot at all, her tablet goes online fine, its the bb>vodacom prob [08:54] ah [08:54] the bb shows gsm connection only [08:55] whatsapp is a problem because it doesn't federate with any other xmpp service [08:55] that's why i don't use it [08:55] should show edge or 3g or something when it is connected [08:55] it isn't suitable for use on the public internet because it doesn't comply to open standards and protocols [08:55] proprietary applications are ok if they are only used inside a certain company though (imho) [08:56] yeah , prob is about everyone has whatsapp. got look at places that sell second hand stuff and see they all give whatsapp as contact point [08:56] grrr [09:01] not places, peeps [09:35] ai! [09:58] hi ThatGraemeGuy [09:58] lo [09:58] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aThCr0PsyuA [09:58] insane [11:39] Afternoon all [12:00] hi mazal [12:17] foget earlier slexy post. please check this one out http://slexy.org/view/s2uqc4PO0Q [12:17] forget as well [12:18] just see if its fine to approach other countries with this message ty [12:51] Lekker aand oom , cheers [12:52] jy ook dankie seun [12:52] ai! [13:44] I'm trying out weechat. So far it seems nice :P [13:45] Tor just doesn't want to play nice [13:49] charl also likes the new weechat [13:54] storm kom van die weste of noord weste inetpro [13:55] thanks Kilos [14:07] * Kilos waits for power to die. lekker wind blowing [14:09] Kilos: eish! Too late for me already, looks like it's raining in city centre already [14:11] Raining here as well [14:12] I should convince my mother to make pancakes for dinner [14:14] wonderful idea , pancakes when it rains [14:14] that custom comes down many generations [14:15] gremble did you put up a notice? [14:17] A notice? [14:18] cloud burst here atm [14:19] sigh [14:19] for peeps to join us [14:20] good day folks [14:20] AlphaG: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell alphaG Just hang around if no one answers you immediately , sooner or later someone will get to see your message, and best of all if you have a problem then state it and hang for an answer" 5 months, 2 days, 23 hours, 58 minutes and 49 seconds ago [14:21] hi AlphaG [14:21] HAHA [14:21] I think he ended up fixing his problem [14:21] :P [14:21] thats an old message [14:21] how come you take 5 months to fix things AlphaG ? [14:22] you worse than me [14:22] huh?? [14:22] Because he obviously didn't hang around [14:22] lol [14:22] i cant even remember what the problem was [14:22] what was that [14:22] read the message above from Maaz [14:23] you were trying to do something or fix something [14:23] eish I can't remember.. I think I was at the lab installing 14.01 [14:24] I'm still using ubuntu for home theatre awesome [14:25] can anyone assist me with a wifi problem. [14:26] my devices keeps saying ... obtaining ip adress... failed.. [14:31] AlphaG: did you check what was in syslog? [14:33] no.. its the labs wifi.. labs closed then my mobile usually pics up wifi when in range. [14:34] I haven't connectd my ubuntu laptop in 5 months to the wifi .. [14:35] just want to know what could be causing this. . bc few days ago it was working. [14:36] usually connect just to update the install as I did last time.. [14:38] sjoe tower got a whack from that bright light but seems to have survived [14:39] Maaz hello [14:39] Hello Kilos [14:40] maaz is slow [14:41] my lag here shows 501ms [14:41] Maaz hi [14:41] Howzit Kilos [14:42] AlphaG why didnt he answer you? [14:42] ok what irc client are you using [14:43] when you type a nick type the first 2 or 3 letters and hit tab it sorts the nick with caps and all [15:32] Kilos: I see sunshine, is it over or is it coming again? [15:32] over now inetpro got 10 mm [15:32] apparently we had hail at home [15:34] ai! [15:34] kilos paste my question here plz [15:34] ok [15:35] I.partitioned. 500gb xternal.. into 3 parts ubuntu ext4 , pagefile and ntfs for windows access and data storage. [15:35] oh wait [15:35] 12.04 should upgrade directly to 14.04 [15:36] i think lets goes directly to lts [15:36] inetpro ? [15:36] lts to lts just upgrade? [15:36] will that disturb partitions and data? [15:36] nope [15:36] open update manager [15:37] it should show what it will upgrade to [15:37] near the top [15:38] does it not just update packages? [15:38] nope it updates everything to the later release [15:38] open update manager and look [15:38] nothing happens till you tell it to [15:38] I can't now.. no wifi.. [15:39] ohy arent you here with it now? [15:39] no dude. I'm on via mobile. [15:39] wait a while let me boot old pc with 12.04 on [15:40] webchat.freenode.net [15:40] ok [15:40] why did you stay away for 5 months? [15:41] don't I will check when I'm at the lab [15:41] i nearly forgot about you [15:41] its np [15:41] yeah my laptops keyboard got busted... rain dropd [15:41] ouch [15:42] and its a schlep carrying a bluetooth keyboard to lab with external box etc [15:42] lol [15:42] eish old pc booted to 14.04 too [15:42] and the lab was closed for holidays [15:43] alright [15:43] when you at the lap come here and well go through it [15:43] so ya.. and I'm probably the only one here who doesn't have adsl... [15:43] no there are a few of us that use 3g [15:44] all peeps in outline areas like plots and farms got no adsl [15:44] and asking u guys questions over a phone is pointless if I can't do anything on the ubuntu.. [15:44] get a pen and write down [15:44] but anyway you can come here with fone from the lap too if you have to [15:45] my nearest adsl is at the ilab its at the mosq its free coz I assit there.. its for the community. [15:45] oh wait i have 12.04 on a flash drive [15:46] ok [15:46] I downloaded 14. iso I have it on the external here. [15:47] good use it to make a bootable live flash [15:47] use unetbootin [15:48] I don't wana mess with it n it ends up formatn the external... wich is why I asked if I can update it online safely [15:48] you wont mess up anything, unetbootin is an app that makes lives flash drives [15:49] hmm [15:49] but if you go no data cap then upgrading is fine [15:49] so take 14.04 create live flash [15:49] yes [15:50] boot from the flash... [15:50] install ubuntu... [15:51] you point unetbootin to where the iso is and it will see your empty flash and make the flash a live install like a dvd [15:51] yeah I got that part. [15:52] just hang here a while till the guys get home then well check about lts to lts upgrade [15:54] ok ill come again.. [15:55] ubuntu is free.. [15:55] yah [15:55] why not create a free network for ubuntu [15:55] ubuntu internet [15:55] no data fees [15:56] and connect with what 3g supplier [15:56] that will change my world [15:56] yeah it would [15:56] a free access to ubuntu servers [15:56] and irc [15:57] for knowledge [15:58] i think the logistics of that is out of everyones reach [15:58] not that I'm complaining about this .. but chatting over a blackberry on irc and then traveling and paying for data just to use free o.s is ..... [15:58] like who will pay telkom for using their cables [15:58] its not impossible if ubuntu is free all [15:58] or voda or mtn for the 3g peeps [15:59] nevermind them [15:59] the network providersa will all want payment [15:59] nothing is free [16:00] everything costs somewhere along the line [16:01] even if checkers gave away groceries you would still pay for the petrol to get there and back [16:01] yes... [16:02] don't get me wrong... [16:02] but if you can connect to one of the wugs then they help [16:02] I'm saying create ubuntunet [16:04] that would be nice but who will pay for all the cabling etc [16:05] you would have to use telkom existing cabling and they will charge [16:09] wifi. is free. [16:09] lol the whole country hasnt got wifi [16:10] that's the idea [16:10] read my friends blog... [16:10] http://www.webaddict.co.za/2014/11/25/lantern-free-data-forever-space/ [16:10] if the whole country has wifi then the idea would be good ya [16:14] yeah the idea is good [16:15] but somewhwere someone has to pay [16:16] signals dont go to satelites and back for free [16:17] there's always a way [16:18] illegally only [16:18] the sun's rays travels to earth for free. [16:18] life is all about money [16:18] lol [16:18] withouth the sun... [16:19] gtg will pop in again [16:19] ok [16:19] read this [16:20] http://askubuntu.com/questions/126833/lts-to-lts-upgrade [16:20] thanx [16:20] yw [16:57] good evening [16:57] hi magespawn [16:57] you forgot me [16:57] i go eat [16:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos#preview [16:58] indeed [16:59] and the pro [16:59] is he also going for ubuntu memebership? [17:01] or do you mean he forgot you too? [17:21] no man magespawn he is applying with us [17:21] oh sorry yes as well [17:22] sometimes peeps sits and thinks and other times just sits [17:22] he just sits atm, [17:22] indeed [17:22] we need to get him thinking so he can finish his page [17:23] i think he is really busy sometimes [17:23] lol [17:23] you think? [17:23] ]and other times he has to sleep [17:24] i think he is just always tired [17:24] sometimes just not often [17:24] so tired he forgets to go sleep [17:24] i think he games too much [17:25] hmm i thought it was work and family [17:25] hmm... [17:26] well he is clever so, finding excuses will be easy [17:26] lol [17:26] evening superfly did you see [17:26] i hit major testimonials [17:27] i saw the invite to the meeting [17:27] No. I still have no Internet at home [17:27] from g+ [17:27] eish superfly that sucks [17:27] back to 3g [17:27] get 8ta [17:28] hey superfly you still at work? [17:29] superfly can you see slexy posts on the fone? [17:31] magespawn: no, home. I'm using Quasseldroid [17:32] Kilos: maybe, but not right now, busy with kids [17:32] ok ty [17:47] magespawn look at this thing, you think its for real? [17:48] https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/lantern-one-device-free-data-from-space-forever [17:49] inetpro ping [17:51] Kilos: yes? [17:52] superfly http://slexy.org/view/s2uqc4PO0Q [17:52] can i send like that [17:53] to the namibia ubuntu peeps [17:53] i think ill try link us to a few more countries if you guys agree [17:54] looking at the map shows how bad we are doing in africa [17:54] Kilos: ya, that's fine, but just call us all community members [17:54] evening all [17:54] ok ty vm [17:55] hi captine [18:04] hi captine [18:05] hi captine [18:16] Symmetri1 ping [18:18] hi ThatGraemeGuy [18:20] lo [18:21] magespawn can you help? [18:23] i will try Kilos [18:24] did you see graeme login now? [18:24] yes [18:24] twice? [18:25] login and out and back in [18:25] im sure the unaffiliated thing isnt supposed to show all that [18:25] so yes [18:25] watch if mine also does it please [18:25] okay [18:26] magespawn and? [18:26] 20:25 -!- Kilos (~miles@unaffiliated/kilos) quits [Quit: Konversation terminated!] [18:26] is that all [18:27] 20:26 -!- Kilos (~miles@unaffiliated/kilos) joins #ubuntu-za [18:27] or also twice [18:27] yup thats all [18:27] cool ty [18:27] not twice [18:27] ThatGraemeGuy you want to sort it? [18:28] i think it has something to do with adding your password in the clients info [18:28] i think he must have logged out when it was not cloaked [18:28] uh [18:28] yes thats what i mean [18:28] i'm not really sure what you're on about [18:28] hi ThatGraemeGuy [18:28] your first login shows you ip addy [18:28] your first login was not cloaked [18:28] then you cloak [18:28] meh, makes no difference to me [18:29] oh ok [18:29] Kilos: client info? [18:30] where you enter channels to join and password [18:30] yes? [18:30] there are 2 places to enter password [18:31] if you put your password in both it cloaks you before the channels open [18:31] i think thats it [18:31] let me see [18:31] might also depend on how you are connecting to the channel [18:32] I think it's to do with connecting to Freenode, not just the channel [18:32] hehe [18:32] one time only [18:33] ooo [18:33] thanks for that Kilos, I didn't know that! [18:34] yw [18:34] learn something new every day [18:34] some of the guys login twice [18:35] i cant see it on konversation because each channel you add you have to enter your password [18:35] on xchat and hexchat you get 2 places to enter passwords [18:36] like whats the good of cloaking if it first shows your ip then changes hosts [19:08] hmm... [19:09] good evening [19:09] hi inetpro [19:10] * inetpro trying to catch up [19:17] wow our only up to date mirror is neology [19:20] haha inetpro ons het van jou geskinner [19:20] dit was basies om jou uit te lok [19:20] i wonder why? network problems? [19:20] looks like ubuntu zim is dead [19:21] eish... ran out of bundle and we're not even close to the end of the month yet [19:21] i dont know magespawn , maybe bad settings or maintenance [19:21] andrews one is up to date [19:21] almost there inetpro [19:21] oh my inetpro what you been doing [19:22] * inetpro now back on prepaid and trying to catch up again... you guys talk too much [19:22] lol [19:22] sorry [19:22] at least we are active [19:25] ive mailed ubuntu namibia, will report if/when they reply [19:26] maybe they want a german mail. i wonder who we can ask to compose it [19:28] ok... [19:29] Kilos: apart from chatting with family and having dinner I also installed the official version of Google Chrome and have now tried Whatsapp in the browser [19:29] and it works, actually [19:29] oh my i installed chrome just now too [19:30] but i dont know how to tether this experia [19:30] not sure how the data transverses between my phone and the browser but it works [19:31] did you tether the fone? [19:31] hate to say this but I'm happy that this is working [19:32] lol i will be as well when i get it working then i can shelve the xperia [19:32] finally we can start interacting with the masses directly on the PC... even if the solution sucks [19:33] inetpro is the phone a hotspot? [19:33] they should just make it work with any other browser as well [19:33] oh you tehter the fone to scan for the code? [19:33] magespawn: no [19:33] tether [19:33] okay i am just confused now [19:33] at this stage they are just both on the same wifi network [19:33] magespawn https://www.whatsapp.com/faq/en/web/28080003 [19:34] let me try putting the mobile on Vodacom data [19:34] and the phone is the gatewat? [19:34] gateway? [19:34] no magespawn [19:34] read that link [19:35] ok, I actually switched the data alltogether on the phone [19:35] i think once you got it working you can put the fone off [19:36] within seconds I get an orange notification that reads, "Phone not connected, blah blah, blah..." [19:36] oh my [19:36] maybe works something like airdroid [19:36] so I connect the phone and a test message I typed to my wife while it was offline goes through [19:37] if it wants the fone connected as well isnt it going to use data on both? [19:37] so essentially I guess, the browser talks to Whatsapp in the cloud but notices a disconnect on the phone [19:38] ah [19:38] because it has to stay in sync [19:38] anything I chat on the PC also appears on the phone [19:38] i think the pidgin way will be better [19:39] so the pc part only works if the phone is online [19:39] then fone must has whatsapp disconnected [19:39] double data maybe if they are both going out through the same internet connection [19:39] magespawn: well the PC part works in the sense that I can still read the messages on the screen [19:40] but messages will not deliver unless the phone is connected as well [19:40] do you still recieve the message on the pc if the phones is disconnected? [19:41] have not tested the scenarion but I doubt [19:41] the double data will not bother me that much to be honest... text messages are small [19:42] inetpro dont you see my messages? [19:42] the convenience of being able to stay focused on the desktop is long overdue [19:43] Kilos: I do, but I ignore them :-) [19:43] ai! [19:43] sorry Kilos [19:43] Kilos: to be honest, I thought I answered them [19:44] i have a few users that all use whatsapp all going through the same connection, i can actually measure it when somebody posts a photo to one of the groups [19:44] i asked does it scan the code for whatsapp [19:44] i just need my code then ill get whatsapp in pidgin with the fone off [19:44] oh, missed that [19:45] you need an updated version of whatsapp on the phone [19:45] its only been there about 5 months [19:48] on the updated version of Whatsapp on your phone, go to Menu > WhatsApp Web [19:48] and then, scan the QR Code on your computer [19:49] Getting Started with WhatsApp Web http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/en/web/28080003 [19:49] ty [19:50] this is hard work changing glasses all the time [19:51] Im using chromium and whatsapp web wants me to download chrome [19:51] haha [19:52] hehe [19:52] chrome is 40 something megs [19:52] i had to put a new bundle [19:52] sigh [19:52] Im nog going to download chrome [19:52] it is the same browser [19:53] try make it see the whatsapp code [19:55] whatsapp in the browser... interesting [19:55] Just use Telegram [19:55] Telegram is still much better! [19:55] but that is only for short messages stop [19:56] Hahaha, nice one gremble [19:56] I'm thinking about quitting mathematics and going into stand-up [19:57] rofl [19:57] with Telegram I can do a screenshot on my PC, press the copy button on KSnapshot and just paste on Telegram [19:58] * inetpro just had to test it after seeing Alistair Otter doing it on Linux [19:58] and I think it will help Kilos a lot, if it works [19:59] ya man ty. the android thing is hard work [19:59] you can't change the masses over to Telegram overnight, they just follow whatever advertisers tell them to do [20:01] I'll advertise on facebook [20:01] :o [20:01] Im influential like that [20:01] :-) [20:01] Bwahahaha [20:01] you know, I have like 10 friends [20:01] twit [20:01] that is nothing to balk at [20:02] Are you calling me a twit, Kilos ? [20:02] me? [20:02] * Kilos looks around [20:02] Always [20:02] No, not you, the other one [20:03] ai! [20:04] I like that telegram uses googles material science UX [20:05] imtoo stupid for this [20:05] whatsapp shows nothing that opens a menu [20:05] Press the button with the stripes at the bottom [20:06] It may or may not look like an actual button [20:06] What kind of phone do you have? [20:06] xperia mini pro [20:07] it shows only chat and one thing on the right that opens contacts to choose one [20:07] grrr [20:08] also shows nothing at the bottom [20:08] Ok, you have three buttons at the bottom. the one on the right has three little stripes. That is your menu button for all of your apps [20:08] the left one is an arrow and the middle one a little house [20:08] right one is arrow [20:09] middle one one block [20:09] and left? [20:09] left one 4 little blocks [20:09] I have the phone in front of me right now. if you hold it up, the keyboard slides out to the left [20:09] Oh [20:09] I see that model here [20:09] lol i always have it open thats why i said i see nothing at the bottom [20:10] The little blocks are the menu button [20:10] the square is the home button [20:10] (the buttons below them that they denote) [20:10] the 4 little blocks opens a menu [20:10] ai! [20:10] Yes [20:10] I have no idea what you are trying to do though [20:10] :P [20:11] on the updated version of Whatsapp on your phone, go to Menu > WhatsApp Web [20:11] Kilos: did you upgrade your whassup? [20:11] now to look for whatsapp web [20:11] i dunno how man [20:12] google play [20:12] oh i have the playstore off [20:12] no wonder [20:13] tomorrow is better. too tired to keep changing glasses [20:13] you gonna make me blinder [20:13] hmm... [20:17] eish now play now is upgrading [20:18] could not contact the server please try later [20:18] grrrr [20:18] i go sleep [20:18] night all. sleep tight [20:18] ty for the inf and help [20:38] good night [20:39] good night all