[01:39] <knome> http://open.knome.fi/2015/01/23/find-a-task-quickly/
[03:24] <pleia2> balloons: actually, the Jam page looks great as is :) thank you
[08:06] <dholbach> good morning
[15:39] <balloons> hey dholbach , I tried to act on the concerns for ugj and testing. I hope things are much better now
[15:39] <dholbach> balloons, ummmm... did folks agree on what's the best option?
[15:40] <balloons> I would ask for your thoughts on something else however. I have an issue, which might be best explained by me just letting you read the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1410477
[15:40] <dholbach> balloons, I think elfy tested "disks" on all relevant releases and it seemed to work - it was also what the desktop team hippies recommended
[15:40] <balloons> dholbach, yes, we'll point to startup disk creator, but also have the 1 alternative of disks mentioned
[15:40] <balloons> sdc still needs to be fixed; it's the official way to do it
[15:40] <dholbach> right
[15:41] <dholbach> ok... I was just wondering if we wanted to make disks official
[15:41] <dholbach> but that's probably a discussion for some time in the future
[15:41] <dholbach> I'm not sure I understand https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1410477 - python-sphinx is in main... no?
[15:42] <balloons> dholbach, no, it's not. and that's the problem
[15:42] <dholbach> daniel@daydream:~$ apt-cache showsrc python-sphinx | grep ^Dir
[15:42] <dholbach> Directory: pool/main/s/sphinx
[15:42] <dholbach> daniel@daydream:~$
[15:42] <balloons> dholbach, so what I did was try and add it to the -documentation page instead
[15:43] <dholbach> both the python2 and the python3 variant are in main unless I'm missing something
[15:43] <balloons> when did that happen?!
[15:43] <dholbach> always?
[15:43] <balloons> wow.. when I restarted this I just looked at it, and it was still in universe
[15:43] <dholbach> like since we have bzr
[15:43] <dholbach> or somtehing
[15:43] <dholbach> they used sphinx too
[15:44] <balloons> it's quite clear since didrocks removed it, it was a main exception
[15:44] <dholbach> maybe something else is missing?
[15:44] <balloons> anyways, for sake of my knowledge. I tried to move the documentation build from ubuntu-ui-toolkit to ubuntu-ui-toolkit-autopilot, since the latter is in universe
[15:45] <balloons> that didn't see to work.. and maybe it's not possible
[15:45] <balloons> but that was my real question to you.
[15:45] <dholbach> right
[15:45] <dholbach> ok
[15:45] <balloons> as far as fixing it, I assume me just adding sphinx back as a depends on ubuntu-ui-toolkit will make it all work, like before
[15:46]  * balloons really wonders why it was gutted then?!
[15:46] <dholbach> so if your source package is in main (no matter where each of its binary packages goes), all your build-depends need to be in main too
[15:46] <dholbach> as a build-depends, not depends
[15:46] <dholbach> let me take a look at the MP
[15:47] <balloons> right, so I can add it back and it should work. and apparently since it's in main, no packager will yell at me for it ;-)
[15:47] <balloons> but that's good to know I can't get around the main issue like I thought
[15:58] <dholbach> balloons, running a test build now
[16:10] <dholbach> balloons, I can reproduce the issue - will look into it now
[16:12]  * balloons hugs dholbach 
[16:13] <dholbach> balloons, ahhh... in the initial branch (before the docs were ripped out) was there a sphinx-build in the directory?
[16:13] <dholbach> or is it a file you maybe forgot to 'bzr add'?
[16:13] <dholbach> because in ./documentation/autopilot-helpers - there's no sphinx-build
[16:13] <balloons> the original version used sphinx-build.. this new one uses make
[16:13] <dholbach> it's a script that's usually copied into the tree
[16:13] <dholbach> there's no Makefile in there either
[16:14] <knome> dholbach, you got a new MP as requested; just to be clear, the MP wasn't created automatically, only the list of nicks in the config who aren't members (based on the LP API)
[16:14]  * balloons looks
[16:14] <dholbach> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9836695/ is what I see
[16:14] <dholbach> knome, ah ok, thanks
[16:14] <knome> dholbach, once you've have this MP in the main config, you can reuse the script as often as you want (it's set up for you on lyz's server)
[16:14] <dholbach> balloons, https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-packaging-guide-team/ubuntu-packaging-guide/trunk/files for example has a Makefile in there
[16:15] <dholbach> knome, you = CC in this case :)
[16:15] <dholbach> thanks!
[16:15] <knome> dholbach, yes, the plural you ;)
[16:15] <balloons> wow, lookey there
[16:15] <knome> dholbach, yw
[16:15] <balloons> dholbach, ahh, the makefile is under documentation/autopilot-helpers
[16:16]  * balloons knew he wasn't crazy
[16:16] <dholbach> balloons, not in my tree
[16:16] <balloons> oh, lol
[16:16] <dholbach> I was looking at https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/aphelperdocs-staging/+merge/246439
[16:16] <balloons> bzr status shows nothing
[16:16] <dholbach> bzr unknowns?
[16:17] <balloons> only _build
[16:17] <balloons> documentation/autopilot-helpers/_build
[16:17] <balloons> am I in the proper branch.. hmm
[16:17] <balloons> I didn't re-pull it
[16:17] <dholbach> hum
[16:18] <balloons> ohh I see and remember
[16:18] <balloons> bzr branch lp:~nskaggs/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/aphelperdocs.. but I had to propose against staging, so I re-did the branch
[16:18] <dholbach> ah
[16:18] <dholbach> ok
[16:18] <dholbach> so something's missing there?
[16:18] <balloons> it would seem so
[16:19] <balloons> let me try and fix things up
[16:19] <dholbach> go go go!
[16:21] <knome> dholbach, same for you on the planet config review ;)=
[16:22] <dholbach> whaaaaaaaaat?
[16:22] <balloons> dholbach, I pulled lp:~nskaggs/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/aphelperdocs-staging and I see a Makefile.. I'm confused
[16:22] <knome> get back to work you slacker!
[16:22] <knome> :)
[16:22] <dholbach> and here I was - twiddling thumbs for months - nobody noticed
[16:23] <dholbach> knome, https://code.launchpad.net/~knome/config/planet-ubuntu/+merge/247366 still has conflicts
[16:23] <dholbach> balloons, no - I can't see it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9836773/
[16:24] <dholbach> balloons, it's a fresh checkout
[16:24] <balloons> find aphelperdocs-staging/ -name Makefile
[16:24] <balloons> aphelperdocs-staging/documentation/autopilot-helpers/Makefile
[16:24] <dholbach> I just checked out the branch in a fresh location, from scratch
[16:25] <balloons> yes, same.. so . . .
[16:25] <balloons> I agree with you it's not there, but
[16:25] <dholbach> ah, so it's not there for you either?
[16:25] <balloons> no, it is..
[16:25] <knome> ugh, bzr
[16:26] <balloons> I'm just agreeing it's not, despite the fact it appears for me. that's because launchpad is siding with you
[16:26]  * balloons re-adds
[16:27] <balloons> bzr pull does magic now?
[16:27] <balloons> indeed, and lp sees it
[16:28] <dholbach> revno: 1382
[16:28] <dholbach> committer: nskaggs <nicholas.skaggs@canonical.com>
[16:28] <dholbach> branch nick: aphelperdocs-staging
[16:28] <dholbach> timestamp: Fri 2015-01-23 11:26:50 -0500
[16:28] <dholbach> message:
[16:28] <dholbach>   add makefile
[16:28] <dholbach> so, yes :)
[16:28] <dholbach> running a test build
[16:29]  * dholbach crosses fingers
[16:29] <balloons> I just pushed 1383, which moves sphinx back
[16:29] <balloons> I believe 1382 will fail
[16:29] <balloons> but then, I'm not the debian packaging guru :-)
[16:29]  * dholbach build r1383
[16:30] <dholbach> I'll let you know how it goes :)
[16:30] <balloons> ty dholbach
[16:30] <balloons> I'm really curious about the missing makefile.. that's bazaar!
[16:31] <balloons> zomg the puns
[16:32] <dholbach> poor bazaar hackers :)
[16:33] <knome> balloons, UH OH!
[16:34] <elfy> time to leave channel I think before the pun really starts
[16:35] <knome> dholbach, new MP in, should have resolved all the bzr conflicts
[16:36] <dholbach> thanks, that looks better
[16:36] <dholbach> I just requested a review from the cc team
[16:37] <knome> in wonder when they set up a BCC team
[16:37]  * knome hides
[16:38] <dholbach> ok, time to leave
[16:38] <elfy> I should :)
[16:40] <knome> elfy, noo, that pun wasn't *so* bad...
[16:49] <dholbach> all rightie... I call it a day - have a great weekend everyone!