| diddledan | interesting - tesco/talktalk's blinkbox does ultraviolet now | 00:35 |
|---|---|---|
| diddledan | might be worth switching my purchasing habbit to them rather than googleplaydoh | 00:35 |
| diddledan | specifically because it will mean I have the same library for titles I may get physically as gifts e.g. | 00:36 |
| shauno | I have no idea what that means | 00:37 |
| mapps | same | 00:38 |
| diddledan | blinkbox, ultraviolet or googleplaydoh? | 00:38 |
| mapps | ;] | 00:38 |
| shauno | yes | 00:38 |
| daftykins | when you buy a film on BD/DVD ultraviolet is the streaming service attached | 00:38 |
| daftykins | so you get both one or two physical copies plus x number of streams | 00:38 |
| diddledan | blinkbox: blinkbox.com; ultraviolet: uvvu.com; googleplaydoh: play.google.com | 00:39 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| mapps | hmm | 00:45 |
| mapps | stupid thunderbird | 00:45 |
| mapps | maybe i should giveup with using an email app | 00:45 |
| daftykins | heh | 00:48 |
| daftykins | that is a bit 90s | 00:48 |
| daftykins | :> | 00:48 |
| shauno | aye. away to mutt with ya | 00:48 |
| mapps | yea | 00:53 |
| mapps | i just like it | 00:54 |
| mapps | but every time it decides to download ALL emails no matter what i do | 00:54 |
| mapps | like emails from years back:D | 00:54 |
| diddledan | mapps, I hear that. with an 8GB email archive it takes a while for thunderbird to sync when I set it up anew | 00:55 |
| daftykins | i upgraded office version on the boss' old laptop before i left, yesterday | 00:57 |
| daftykins | it's gonna pull down his 19GB worth of email :P | 00:57 |
| daftykins | and that's only the stuff we leave on the hosted setup. | 00:57 |
| diddledan | ooooooooooooohhhhh: simon "scotty" pegg is going to co-write the next startrek! | 00:58 |
| daftykins | he keeps showing up in films that don't seem like they should be comedies, giving them a comedic vibe | 00:59 |
| diddledan | I love his scotty | 00:59 |
| daftykins | not seen either of those new films | 01:00 |
| diddledan | I loved "paul" too | 01:00 |
| diddledan | paul is an awesome movie | 01:00 |
| mapps] | diddledan did you want it to dl them all? | 01:13 |
| mapps] | :) | 01:14 |
| shauno | diddledan: | 01:23 |
| shauno | how to remove wp plugin without removing its data? | 01:23 |
| diddledan | shauno, just delete it | 01:23 |
| diddledan | shauno, don't deactivate it first | 01:23 |
| shauno | I think I just broke someone else's site :) | 01:26 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 01:26 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 01:26 |
| shauno | I have no idea what that was, I think I'm just going to leave it alone and see if anyone notices | 01:30 |
| daftykins | sounds like a fine approach to me | 01:35 |
| shauno | well, I tend to update all her stuff whenever I'm in the area, because she avoids any button she doesn't understand | 01:35 |
| shauno | so I updated jetpack, and it disappeared. so I tried to reinstall it, but it said it was already installed. and then it was installed but wouldn't activate | 01:36 |
| shauno | I'm not entirely sure what happened next, but it appears to be back now? | 01:36 |
| daftykins | XD | 01:36 |
| daftykins | this firewall on my bigv.io still blocks wordpress cals | 01:36 |
| daftykins | *calls | 01:37 |
| mapps] | grmpf | 01:54 |
| mapps] | got to get the bus at 6;40am | 01:54 |
| shauno | then go to bed? | 01:56 |
| mapps] | i will in a bit | 01:56 |
| mapps] | :D | 01:56 |
| mapps] | tennis is on | 01:56 |
| daftykins | lol | 01:57 |
| shauno | ... | 01:57 |
| mapps] | lol why?:D | 01:57 |
| mapps] | 7gonna have to sleep in 2 shifts | 01:58 |
| mapps] | few hrs now few hours when i get back | 01:58 |
| mapps] | :) | 01:58 |
| shauno | well, personally, tennis doesn't rank highly on the list of reasons I'm not in bed, that's all | 01:58 |
| mapps] | oh | 01:58 |
| daftykins | +1 | 01:59 |
| shauno | (it's right up there with cricket & golf on my list of "things I can't imagine people watching unless they're high") | 01:59 |
| mapps] | hm | 02:02 |
| shauno | it does seem like something a dog would happily watch, but a cat would squint at you and wonder what the punchline was | 02:02 |
| diddledan | hmm, I've only got 560GB of download in my sabnzb queue :-p | 07:31 |
| diddledan | I don't do illegal, obviously | 07:31 |
| diddledan | it's incrementing as we speak, because I went through my sickbeard listings and told it to research everything it had previously decided wasn't available | 07:32 |
| diddledan | up to 600GB | 07:33 |
| diddledan | luckily I still have 2.6 thousand spaces left | 07:35 |
| diddledan | "2685.90 GB Free Space" | 07:35 |
| diddledan | see, 2.6k-spaces | 07:35 |
| knightwise | mornin peeps | 08:11 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| diddledan | morning knightwise | 08:37 |
| zmoylan-pi | happy friday | 08:40 |
| popey | yo | 08:44 |
| * diddledan awaits the jamestait "what day is today?" | 08:46 | |
| diddledan | corrolary - where is he?! | 08:46 |
| diddledan | tabcomplete can't find him so I'm assuming he d/c'd | 08:47 |
| Myrtti | he always does | 08:58 |
| arsenip_ | happy friday :) | 09:00 |
| === arsenip_ is now known as arsenip | ||
| diddledan | I don't think disconnection should be allowed | 09:01 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:18 |
| diddledan | I wonder when MS will unleash the next build of windows10 (they said within the next week on wednesday) | 09:19 |
| diddledan | I'm getting antsy | 09:20 |
| diddledan | I want it NOW | 09:20 |
| bashrc | meh | 09:20 |
| diddledan | I'm an instant gratification nut | 09:21 |
| diddledan | as soon as it's announced I want it | 09:21 |
| popey | also "meh" | 09:21 |
| popey | my GameOS machine runs Windows 7. | 09:21 |
| popey | I'd be tempted to upgrade to Windows 10 if it didn't break everything on the machine, just for the free upgrade | 09:22 |
| diddledan | from what I can tell windows 10 will get delivered as a windows-update patch | 09:22 |
| diddledan | i.e. everyone who has windows update turned on will receive it | 09:22 |
| popey | i doubt that | 09:22 |
| ali1234 | maybe for people who have windows 8 | 09:22 |
| popey | I suspect you'll have to buy it at zero cost | 09:23 |
| diddledan | anyone who has 7sp1, 8 or 8.1 | 09:23 |
| * bashrc refuses to support windows anymore | 09:23 | |
| popey | quite the delta from 7 to 10 | 09:23 |
| ali1234 | if they upgrade 7, a very large number of companies will go absolutely ape shit | 09:23 |
| ali1234 | we are talking "switch to ubuntu" levels of rage | 09:24 |
| bashrc | bonus | 09:24 |
| diddledan | the windows site says: "We will offer a free upgrade to Windows 10 for qualified new or existing Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices that upgrade in the first year!*" with the smallprint stating: "*It is our intent that most of these devices will qualify, but some hardware/software requirements apply and feature availability may vary by device. Devices must be connected to the internet and have Windows Update enabled. ISP | 09:26 |
| diddledan | fees may apply. Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1 Update required." | 09:26 |
| popey | that doesnt mean they get it automagically | 09:26 |
| popey | it'll be optional | 09:26 |
| ali1234 | right, it will just be a popup box that says "click here to download windows 10" | 09:26 |
| diddledan | fair enough - I probably just read too much into the requirement for windows update to be enabled | 09:26 |
| ali1234 | the key word here is "offer" | 09:27 |
| diddledan | maybe they'll put it in the optional section which requires manual ticking of boxes | 09:27 |
| ali1234 | i doubt windows is even capable of in-place upgrades like that | 09:27 |
| ali1234 | you need install media | 09:27 |
| diddledan | windows 8 upgrades to 8.1 without a dvd | 09:28 |
| diddledan | and windows 7 upgrades to 8 with just a small application download which then does the rest | 09:28 |
| diddledan | i.e. no dvd again | 09:28 |
| ali1234 | er, no it doesn't | 09:29 |
| diddledan | yes it does. I've done it | 09:29 |
| ali1234 | that small application downloads the windows 8 ISO and then burns it to a disc | 09:29 |
| diddledan | nope | 09:29 |
| ali1234 | then you install it like any other version of windows | 09:29 |
| ali1234 | i've got a burned windows 8 disc here that i made using that procedure | 09:29 |
| diddledan | afair it was an in situ update without a dvd required | 09:30 |
| diddledan | you _can_ make a dvd, but it's not needed if you're doing a like-for-like upgrade | 09:30 |
| diddledan | i.e. updating 32bit 7 to 64bit 8 will require the dvd | 09:31 |
| diddledan | but 32 to 32 can be done within the booted os | 09:31 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| MooDoo | morning all | 09:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | we can ship win10 to you on floppy... | 09:42 |
| popey | microdrives! | 09:43 |
| zmoylan-pi | i was thinking 8" single side floppies | 09:43 |
| popey | i installed MSDOS 6.22 on a "modern" laptop the other day | 09:45 |
| popey | that was fun :) | 09:45 |
| popey | and fast! | 09:45 |
| diddledan | popey, I bet you didn't need any drivers, either | 09:46 |
| knightwise | morning peeps | 09:47 |
| diddledan | knightwise, you said that already | 09:47 |
| popey | well, no, but things dont work | 09:47 |
| popey | like sound | 09:47 |
| diddledan | popey, who needs audio?! | 09:47 |
| ali1234 | this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhPA_TpkzkA | 09:48 |
| knightwise | diddledan: you werent awake the first time | 09:48 |
| popey | to play games | 09:48 |
| popey | wanted to play some dos games | 09:48 |
| diddledan | dosbox ftw | 09:48 |
| * knightwise is still trying to get his retropi install working | 09:49 | |
| diddledan | blindfold speedrun?! | 09:50 |
| popey | nah, i want to run on real hardware, not emulated | 09:50 |
| zmoylan-pi | probably drivers in config.sys for uk keyboard | 09:52 |
| zmoylan-pi | well... country | 09:52 |
| popey | that was all default right for me | 09:53 |
| popey | i used the DOS setup.exe | 09:53 |
| ali1234 | wait, dos has a setup.exe? | 09:53 |
| zmoylan-pi | so still set up drivers so | 09:53 |
| popey | yes | 09:53 |
| zmoylan-pi | dos 4 onwards had a setup iirc | 09:53 |
| ali1234 | i never knew that | 09:54 |
| popey | heh, DOS 4 was the Windows Me. | 09:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | dos 3 when i started was just fdisk the drive, format the drive (assuming it was ide, could be very wierd otherwise) /s and copy over the floppy into directory called \dos | 09:55 |
| ali1234 | DOS 4? I only has 6.22 | 09:55 |
| popey | yeah, I started with 3.3 | 09:55 |
| popey | or maybe 3.1 | 09:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | dos 4 was terrible, used too much memory, no one used it | 09:55 |
| ali1234 | sys c:\ and then copy config.sys and autoexec.bat | 09:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | only reason to use it was for partitions bigger than 32mb | 09:56 |
| popey | http://i.imgur.com/z5jwkis.jpg | 09:56 |
| popey | fun | 09:57 |
| popey | thats on a 32GB USB stick so I can use it on anyones PC :) | 09:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | oh, kill the smartdrv, waste of memory :-) | 09:57 |
| popey | well it is now, yeah | 09:57 |
| popey | that was my default install | 09:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | but at least it's /x to kill the write behind feature that annoyed everyone | 09:57 |
| popey | i liked the fact that its full screen, and not some odd window | 09:58 |
| popey | so things it can't do.. sound, network... | 09:58 |
| zmoylan-pi | dos 6.22 can link to another computer with serial/paralled cable, primitive network :-) | 09:58 |
| ali1234 | refering the text mode VGA as "fullscreen" | 09:58 |
| popey | hehe :) | 09:59 |
| ali1234 | you sound like some hotshot 20 yr old node developer | 09:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | i had been using laplink since dos 3 days so never used it. | 09:59 |
| popey | ahh, my three headed laplink cable | 09:59 |
| popey | that was closely guarded | 10:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | yeah, i wrote very rude labels and stuck them all over my one so no one would borrow it | 10:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | my first social engineering :'-) | 10:01 |
| ali1234 | laplink was... bad | 10:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | laplink was excellent | 10:01 |
| popey | actually i wonder if the sound card in the thinkpad might just work | 10:01 |
| ali1234 | luckily i was using an amiga at the time when it was popular | 10:01 |
| popey | need to find some dos game with audio | 10:01 |
| popey | JamesTait: slacker | 10:01 |
| bashrc | I think it was just a null modem cable | 10:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | there is an external parallel sound card that might do it iirc | 10:01 |
| ali1234 | ethernet was common by the time i was forced to switch to PC | 10:01 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Handwriting Day! :-D | 10:02 |
| popey | \o/ | 10:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | we've already done happy friday JamesTait, friday trumps handwriting day :-) | 10:02 |
| popey | \o/ just found some old CDs I burned from 1998 with games on | 10:02 |
| bashrc | gosh | 10:02 |
| popey | haha, has loads of dos utilities | 10:02 |
| popey | like arj, rar200, pkarc | 10:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | i think i might have a zip file on my phone with a backup of all my games from then... | 10:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | commander keen... | 10:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | mahjongg | 10:03 |
| popey | i put the cd in my windows pc, microsoft security essentials found a virus on it :) | 10:03 |
| popey | Joe:Win16/Stupid | 10:03 |
| popey | *Joke | 10:03 |
| bashrc | don't copy that floppy | 10:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | unless you're the government... | 10:04 |
| popey | haha, there's a linux install guide from 1997 on it | 10:05 |
| awilkins | Ooh, null modem cables | 10:05 |
| awilkins | Used to string our Amigas together with those and play Populous 2 | 10:05 |
| zmoylan-pi | is that the one that warns about making your monitor explode getting x to work? :-) | 10:06 |
| diddledan | I went to college with a guy who had coax lan - I think it was ethernet, but it mighta been token I guess | 10:06 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:07 |
| diddledan | allo | 10:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | my first network was a novell network on ne2000 boards connected via coax | 10:07 |
| * bashrc didn't know anything about linux until 1999/2000 | 10:07 | |
| zmoylan-pi | then we discovered cheap ne2000 clones... the original ne2000 boards cost as much as a cheap laptop now | 10:08 |
| bashrc | I had a coax lan. coax was unreliable | 10:08 |
| diddledan | I remember asking the college it guys about their server because it was showing a non-graphical terminal - I said something like "is that linux?" and they replied "no, it's a real netware server" | 10:08 |
| JamesTait | zmoylan-pi++ | 10:09 |
| diddledan | because netware > linux, right? | 10:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | coax worked fine as long as the cable was kept away from people kicking it and the terminators/connectors were good. at work we'd have a cable problem every 2-3 months. | 10:09 |
| ali1234 | coax was bad but it was still miles better than laplink | 10:09 |
| popey | at the time netware was better | 10:09 |
| ali1234 | and netware 4 was much better than linux was at the time yes | 10:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | netware software was a rock. it just kept running | 10:09 |
| diddledan | this was circa 99/00 | 10:09 |
| popey | oh i got out of netware in ~1996 | 10:10 |
| bashrc | humidity could cause strange behavior of the coax networks | 10:10 |
| diddledan | so linux was about 6 years old. a regular bubby | 10:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | there's a famous story of a novell netware server walled up for a couple of years accidently and still kept running. | 10:10 |
| ali1234 | netware was probably still better than linux in 1999 but it was crippled due to using IPX not TCP/IP | 10:10 |
| popey | i think there are still fat ethernet cables laid at my local college that I put in 20 years ago. | 10:10 |
| JamesTait | GTA over IPX over coax made up far too much of my final year at uni. | 10:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | they are kept to punish the bad pupils :-) | 10:10 |
| bashrc | a company I was at used netware until about 2003 | 10:11 |
| popey | IPXSPX | 10:11 |
| popey | NETX | 10:11 |
| popey | IPODI! | 10:11 |
| popey | memories... | 10:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | don't forget share.exe if you want file locking :-) | 10:11 |
| diddledan | netbeui? | 10:11 |
| diddledan | is that spelt right? | 10:11 |
| bashrc | something like that | 10:11 |
| awilkins | Ugh, had blocked all that horrible networking stuff from my mind | 10:12 |
| diddledan | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetBIOS | 10:12 |
| awilkins | Hooray for TCP/IP | 10:12 |
| MooDoo | one of my first certification was for Novell Netware.... | 10:13 |
| MooDoo | blast from the past | 10:13 |
| diddledan | crazy that MS still clings to netbios names | 10:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | my boss while at a wedding saw the hotels server sitting behind reception desk leaned over and downed their server while drunk for a giggle. | 10:15 |
| MooDoo | bit of a T**t then | 10:16 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi, well you would, wouldn't you! | 10:16 |
| zmoylan-pi | waking up the next morning at checkout he saw the technical staff frantically at the server wondering what was wrong. he 'fixed' it for them and slunk out so embarrassed. | 10:16 |
| MooDoo | what a kn*b | 10:17 |
| zmoylan-pi | drunk, very drunk... | 10:17 |
| JamesTait | My first job out of uni involved preparing for Y2K by migrating our Novell Netware 4 network to a Windows NT domain (to also integrate our small office network with the group network over ISDN). | 10:18 |
| zmoylan-pi | but he'd tell that story to customers as to why they shouldn't put servers in publically accessible places so some good came of it | 10:18 |
| diddledan | o_O the gadget show website is reporting that the iwatch will have a battery life of 2.5hours | 10:18 |
| awilkins | Is that in Dick Tracy videophone mode? | 10:18 |
| JamesTait | Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? | 10:18 |
| zmoylan-pi | 2.5 hours... does that count as battery life? | 10:18 |
| zmoylan-pi | or a demo | 10:19 |
| knightwise | so much for 'worlds most innovative company' | 10:19 |
| zmoylan-pi | i see argos are now selling pebble | 10:19 |
| zmoylan-pi | some people when they move house don't kid around... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7-pnOmCMAA72mv.jpg:large | 10:22 |
| diplo | They seem to do that a fair bit in the states i think zmoylan-pi , there is a TV series about it | 10:23 |
| diplo | :) | 10:23 |
| zmoylan-pi | wouldn't it be cheaper to take a copy of the plans and you know just make a second copy? | 10:24 |
| diplo | But this is 'Merica! | 10:27 |
| diplo | :) | 10:27 |
| awilkins | You could even knock down the old house and call it a "teleport" | 10:27 |
| awilkins | http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/01/22/2233248/researchers-moot-teleportation-via-destructive-3d-printing | 10:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | you could leave the old house and call it a teleport accident... | 10:27 |
| awilkins | Anyone see that article about the Chinese buildings made with a ginormous 3D printer? | 10:27 |
| awilkins | They're kinda weird inside, look like the excretions of some giant termits | 10:28 |
| zmoylan-pi | haven't we been using giant 3d printers since we started pouring concrete into moulds onsite? | 10:28 |
| awilkins | Moulds not the same | 10:28 |
| awilkins | http://rt.com/news/224423-china-3d-printer-house/ | 10:29 |
| awilkins | Those blocks look quite light | 10:30 |
| diddledan | why do reporters insist on calling the material that 3d printers extrude "ink"?! | 10:33 |
| zmoylan-pi | because reporters are dumb and their general audience dumber | 10:34 |
| zmoylan-pi | they go for the cliche rather than educate these days it seems | 10:34 |
| awilkins | Also quite like the houses made of expanded polystyrene bricks like LEGO that you then fill with concrete | 10:37 |
| zmoylan-pi | i liked the carlsberg bottle that was designed to be used as a housebrick when it was empty | 10:38 |
| diddledan | the other thing that annoys me about news reports is that the reporter usually insists on putting a pun or many into it | 10:38 |
| knightwise | wasnt that a heineken one | 10:38 |
| knightwise | I'm thinking of styrofoam bricks and wood when we do our home reno | 10:38 |
| zmoylan-pi | could be some other booze, i don't drink sorry | 10:38 |
| knightwise | we have been thinking about putting in an addition | 10:38 |
| knightwise | extention i mean | 10:38 |
| zmoylan-pi | heineken, yup http://inhabitat.com/heineken-wobo-the-brick-that-holds-beer/ | 10:39 |
| diddledan | https://github.com/alex/what-happens-when | 10:46 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| awilkins | That Heineken story makes my browser choke | 10:52 |
| zmoylan-pi | some good would come from all the empty bottles | 10:53 |
| awilkins | Ugh, whatever it is on that page totally locks up Firefox | 10:54 |
| awilkins | This seems to be a trend I've noticed recently | 10:54 |
| awilkins | Newspaper websites do it too | 10:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | works fine on my firefox, i use ghostery though so that might be stopping the nasty | 10:54 |
| awilkins | Closed all my Firefox windows. Process is still caning a CPI | 10:55 |
| awilkins | CPU | 10:55 |
| * awilkins kill -9s it | 10:55 | |
| diddledan | awilkins, it might be a rogue flash ad | 10:55 |
| awilkins | Not the plugin hosting process (has a separate process name, no?) | 10:56 |
| diddledan | it might do | 10:57 |
| awilkins | The website of The Independent does something similar | 10:57 |
| awilkins | Page scrolls really slowly, eats CPU | 10:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | newspapers do seem to be guilty of most addons sucking cpu at the same time | 10:58 |
| zmoylan-pi | i think it's to punish us for not buying a paper copy | 10:58 |
| awilkins | Or possibly to mine BitCoin for Rupert Murdoch | 10:58 |
| zmoylan-pi | or mine secrets for rupert murdoch, he got away with hacking once... | 10:59 |
| * awilkins wonders if there are any distributed mining things that work by farming workunits out to js in peoples browsers | 10:59 | |
| awilkins | Of course there is : http://www.bitcoinplus.com/miner/embeddable | 11:00 |
| awilkins | Bitcoin mining plugin for WordPress | 11:00 |
| awilkins | The dude only wants a 19% cut! | 11:01 |
| MooDoo | i'll install it to my WP sites, would me I get 0.000000000000001 of a BC in about 20 years | 11:01 |
| awilkins | There's a WP site at my old work that has about 100 plugins in it | 11:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | tbh, i'd prefer my doddery relatives computers were mining bitcoins than sending spam | 11:02 |
| awilkins | Don't think they'd notice another one... | 11:02 |
| andrewebdev | I'm wondering, since the announcement of LXD I've not really seen much documentation and/or tutorials on it. Does anyone know where I can find docs on using it? | 11:02 |
| knightwise | p0p0k@t3ptl | 11:03 |
| knightwise | That is the name of a mountain in africa | 11:03 |
| awilkins | Nice coverup | 11:03 |
| awilkins | All we saw was | 11:03 |
| awilkins | *********** | 11:03 |
| knightwise | LOL | 11:04 |
| knightwise | nice one awilkins | 11:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | dibs on his paypal :-P | 11:04 |
| awilkins | That bitcoin miner plugin thing seems to be a Java applet | 11:05 |
| awilkins | +1 for speed -1 for getting people to run it | 11:05 |
| zmoylan-pi | if you sell it right you could need a 20 page list of instructions and some people would install it :-) | 11:06 |
| popey | hmm | 11:10 |
| awilkins | One that's pure js and has WebGL support : https://github.com/derjanb/hamiyoca | 11:10 |
| popey | seems my thinkpad doesn't want to be a soundblaster 16 or awe32 | 11:10 |
| awilkins | AWE32 was a great card | 11:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | don't thinkpads also have an awful awful modem pretending to be a sound card driver? | 11:11 |
| MooDoo | dma=1 irq=5 iirc :D | 11:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | same irq as our network cards... | 11:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | base 320h | 11:12 |
| popey | yeah, says it cant find the card | 11:12 |
| popey | unsurprisingly | 11:12 |
| davmor2 | popey: is this for dosbox by anychance? | 11:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | maybe some mad genius wrote a driver to make it think an ac'97 is a soundblaster in dos? :-) | 11:13 |
| popey | davmor2: no, real hardware | 11:14 |
| davmor2 | popey: ah :) try soundblaster pro | 11:15 |
| popey | not an option | 11:15 |
| knightwise | mpsyt :) | 11:15 |
| davmor2 | popey: pc speaker | 11:16 |
| knightwise | Better then Spotify | 11:16 |
| popey | gravis, sb, sound man 16, pro audio spectrum, awe 32, soundscape, disney sound source, tandy sound source | 11:16 |
| popey | (duke 3d) | 11:16 |
| zmoylan-pi | ad lib | 11:16 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 11:19 |
| diddledan | not for much longer | 11:19 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: hello | 11:19 |
| bigcalm | o/ | 11:22 |
| diddledan | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30948123 | 11:22 |
| MooDoo | google also released 3 zero days for apple osx too | 11:23 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| knightwise | quick question | 12:20 |
| knightwise | suppose I ssh into a machine from the command line and would like to launch an app | 12:20 |
| knightwise | how do i put that in one command line command | 12:20 |
| knightwise | ssh me@server:command or ssh me@server / command ? | 12:20 |
| Laney | laney@iota:~$ ssh vivid.local echo hello knightwise from \$\(hostname\) | 12:25 |
| Laney | hello knightwise from vivid | 12:25 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| awilkins | knightwise, GUI app? | 12:28 |
| awilkins | ssh -X user@server 'command line' | 12:28 |
| knightwise | commmand line app | 12:33 |
| knightwise | the error i'm getting wehn i do it your way is : "the term environment variable is unset" | 12:34 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| mapps | back y'all | 13:21 |
| mapps | back in the sun | 13:21 |
| mapps | :D | 13:21 |
| zmoylan-pi | natural light, get it off me!! | 13:24 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === zmoylan-pi is now known as ubuntu-fan01 | ||
| awilkins | knightwise, That sounds like an app-specific error | 13:34 |
| knightwise | mc ? doesnt strike me as an exotic app | 13:34 |
| mapps | ;] | 13:34 |
| awilkins | try ssh user@server 'TERM=xterm mc' | 13:35 |
| awilkins | mc is ncurses | 13:35 |
| awilkins | since you're shelling straight in and just running it you're not starting a terminal on the server | 13:35 |
| awilkins | hence no TERM env var | 13:35 |
| awilkins | Since it can't predict terminal behaviour it's throwing a spaz | 13:36 |
| awilkins | set it to whatever your local term env says (gnome-terminal says xterm for me here) | 13:36 |
| === ubuntu-fan01 is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| knightwise | ha | 13:56 |
| knightwise | i"ll try | 13:56 |
| knightwise | IT WORKS :) | 13:56 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| popey | ChunkzZ: has your internet connection improved since moving wifi channel? | 15:43 |
| Azelphur | muhahah, victory is mine, finally bypassed threes new tethering detection. | 17:29 |
| Azelphur | set up a SSH Server on the phone to socks proxy and am using tsocks for applications that don't support socks. | 17:31 |
| Myrtti | oh, they've got a tethering detection? bother. | 17:46 |
| Azelphur | Myrtti, yea, they always have, but up until the past couple months it had just been layer 7 | 17:51 |
| Azelphur | Myrtti, now they are doing something new, I dunno what it is, at first I thought it was TTL but ping -t 65 doesn't get through. | 17:51 |
| Azelphur | whatever it is, it's clever I'll give themt hat | 17:51 |
| Azelphur | SO MANY FUCKING TUNNELS >.> | 17:55 |
| Myrtti | tsk. | 17:55 |
| Azelphur | just realised I typed ^ in ubuntu-uk and not my channel, sorry >.> | 17:55 |
| Azelphur | not the place for that. | 17:55 |
| Azelphur | on a train, tunnels keep disconnecting my internet, first world problems :( | 17:55 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOW | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| zmoylan-pi | but if you have no tunnels where would you run your trains?? :-) | 19:50 |
| shauno | bridges :) | 19:50 |
| zmoylan-pi | nah, proper trains have tunnels | 19:52 |
| SuperEngineer | but surley - trains should be using clouds - everybody using clouds - why not trains? Let's see how clever you are nowcloud users! [hurumph] | 19:53 |
| * zmoylan-pi doesn't want to see a load bearing cloud as the weather might be nasty | 19:53 | |
| SuperEngineer | lol | 19:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | i mean in ireland we run rail lines across bogs and those are fun | 19:54 |
| SuperEngineer | ...& as to the phrase " proper trains have tunnels".. anybody told Euro Tunnel that? they seem to prefer the M20 | 19:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | well if you build a rail line on a bog it eventually provides it's own tunnel as it sinks and closes over the train :-) | 19:56 |
| shauno | gotta admit, not so impressed with the trains in Ireland | 20:00 |
| shauno | I mean - they all go to dublin? Who in their right mind .. | 20:00 |
| SuperEngineer | glug glug... "the expected arrival for dublin will be a bit late. We apologise for the delay" | 20:00 |
| SuperEngineer | I bog therefore I'm late | 20:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | trains in ireland are ok, cheaper often to get a flight from one end of country to the other, and quicker. but trains are still popular | 20:01 |
| diddledan | shauno, to be fair pretty much every train in england ends up at "bristol temple-meads" | 20:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | there's a causeway in tipperary i think that seems to sink every 50-70 years. eventually the next causeway will have been built on enough rubble to not sink | 20:02 |
| shauno | I'd quite like a line that heads south, so I can get to shannon instead of relying on dublin airport :/ | 20:02 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi, it's a long way to tipperary | 20:02 |
| SuperEngineer | ooooooooohh no! | 20:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | especially when you have to disembark, walk with luggage through a few feet of bog and then a few miles to next town to catch the linking bus | 20:03 |
| * SuperEngineer stops clock on waiting for that 1! | 20:03 | |
| diddledan | yeah, that's every commuter's nightmare phrase: rail replacement service | 20:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | well dublin airport is really just named dublin airport to confuse invading forces... :-P | 20:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | it's so remote from dublin that ryan air flies into it and calls it dublin airport | 20:04 |
| SuperEngineer | Got stuck there once.. was using ticket from manager who got ill... | 20:06 |
| SuperEngineer | ...plane went | 20:06 |
| SuperEngineer | 2tech | 20:06 |
| SuperEngineer | 2. | 20:06 |
| SuperEngineer | i went to #business lounge ;) | 20:06 |
| SuperEngineer | ...free food... oh, & free booze | 20:06 |
| SuperEngineer | me likey Dublin airport :D | 20:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | free booze... in ireland... i wonder what that costs them :-) | 20:07 |
| SuperEngineer | I wondered that at the time! | 20:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | well... till the free booze kicked in | 20:07 |
| SuperEngineer | ..but then had another freebie & forgot about it! ;D | 20:08 |
| SuperEngineer | My main gripe with Dublin airport... they fixed the darned plane - no fair! | 20:09 |
| SuperEngineer | no free booze or food on plane | 20:09 |
| SuperEngineer | [except a muffin - no comment] | 20:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | a bran muffin... and then they charge to use the loo! the fiends!! | 20:10 |
| shauno | I've spent so much time on ryanair, I was quite confused when Austrian fed us | 20:10 |
| SuperEngineer | definite lol | 20:11 |
| SuperEngineer | zmoylan-pi, ^ | 20:11 |
| SuperEngineer | Here's a good one; man from BT apparently arrived this morning, declared telegraph pole unsafe & cut all lines without warning anybody so he could remove the pole! | 20:15 |
| * SuperEngineer is back to using 3g dongle atm | 20:15 | |
| zmoylan-pi | irony would be if after he cut the wires the pole fell... | 20:15 |
| SuperEngineer | yup | 20:15 |
| diddledan | SuperEngineer, I believe if it's off for more than 4 hours you're allowed to claim compensation | 20:15 |
| SuperEngineer | correct | 20:16 |
| SuperEngineer | already underway | 20:16 |
| diddledan | well done :-) | 20:16 |
| ali1234 | i just found the stupidest bug ever | 20:16 |
| SuperEngineer | [though not sure re 4 hourd bit - but no hope till Monday is out of any time limit!] | 20:17 |
| ali1234 | how do i report bugs against the upgrade tool? | 20:17 |
| SuperEngineer | a stupid bug, that's a bit technocratist! | 20:17 |
| ali1234 | it's really stupid though | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | 1. install 13.10 | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | 2. upgrade to 14.04 | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | 3. enable partner repo | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | 4. install skype | 20:18 |
| SuperEngineer | surely you mean a bug of impaired mentality :D | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | it doesn't work, because you get the version for 13.10 | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | developer of impaired mentality perhaps, but the bug is just plain stupid | 20:18 |
| SuperEngineer | ok - agreed | 20:19 |
| SuperEngineer | why not just install 14.04 first? | 20:20 |
| ali1234 | yes, let me just get in my time machine and do that | 20:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | don't forget the lotto numbers | 20:21 |
| SuperEngineer | still waiting for those lotto numbers... that time machine must have a faulty starter motor | 20:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | you're waiting for someone to give you a delorean to install it | 20:22 |
| ali1234 | it's funny how whenever i have to do anything computer related for anyone else i always hit a bug | 20:23 |
| ali1234 | but i hardly ever do | 20:23 |
| zmoylan-pi | anytime i have to touch someones windows computer i usually have to wait a sizeable chunk of a gigabyte of updates to install | 20:24 |
| ali1234 | bug 1414150 | 20:26 |
| lubotu3 | bug 1414150 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "release upgrader doesn't update partner repo URL if it isn't enabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1414150 | 20:26 |
| mapps | taken eh | 21:56 |
| mapps | a 3rd one now..prob same as 1/2 no doubt | 21:57 |
| ali1234 | what's a good OS image for raspberry pi that will work with 4GB card and allow me to test the audio and camera module? | 22:12 |
| ali1234 | oh and wifi | 22:12 |
| brobostigon | raspbian | 22:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | though a 4gb card is on the small side these days | 22:14 |
| brobostigon | yes, my both, runs on 16gb sd cards, and they got filled very quickly. | 22:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | you think to yourself i'll only keep a tiny amount of data on them and the next thing you know you're connecting a 1tb drive... :-) | 22:16 |
| brobostigon | yep, :) | 22:16 |
| ali1234 | well... | 22:18 |
| mapps | my pesky vpn isnt working grr | 22:19 |
| mapps | can connect but not access net..grmpf ive set ipforwarding on and the iptables rules | 22:19 |
| daftykins | diagnose it | 22:22 |
| daftykins | ping by IP, check routes... | 22:22 |
| daftykins | all the usual | 22:22 |
| mapps | yea going to | 22:23 |
| mapps | just a pain | 22:23 |
| mapps | especially because i forgot my charger for my big laptop LOL..double checked my bags before i left and somehow didnt consider charger | 22:23 |
| mapps | unpacked realised i dont have it so have to use my netbook for everything | 22:23 |
| daftykins | a fate worse than death | 22:27 |
| daftykins | mapps: hey the windows 10 image got updated - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=522102 | 22:28 |
| mapps | wonder how diff it is | 22:31 |
| mapps | lets see | 22:31 |
| daftykins | well it's definitely different to the first image they put out :> | 22:33 |
| mapps | apparently ws like -7 in heathrow last night | 22:35 |
| mapps | did feel cold when i got there heh | 22:35 |
| daftykins | wowzer | 22:35 |
| mapps | mustve been -2 or so at 6am | 22:35 |
| mapps | tethered my phone to laptop and watched old GOAT | 22:36 |
| mapps | BUT he lost | 22:37 |
| mapps | :(( | 22:37 |
| daftykins | no idea what that is | 22:37 |
| mapps | ROGER THE FEDERER | 22:38 |
| mapps | fed express | 22:38 |
| mapps | :D | 22:38 |
| mapps | old greatest of all time | 22:38 |
| mapps | he | 22:38 |
| daftykins | aah | 22:39 |
| daftykins | we have a mate that looks exactly like him | 22:39 |
| daftykins | when we see him, we ask how the ol' tennis is going | 22:39 |
| diddledan | does anyone in the uk here have win10 installed? | 22:40 |
| diddledan | seems cortana doesn't like me :-( | 22:40 |
| mapps | daftykins, does i thought | 22:40 |
| daftykins | diddledan: i'll have it up in a VM shortly | 22:40 |
| daftykins | downloading right now | 22:40 |
| * daftykins goes back to making a sandwich | 22:40 | |
| diddledan | daftykins, I'm getting cortana say that she's "unavailable to help in your location" | 22:40 |
| mapps | thought you already did | 22:41 |
| mapps | you deld old win10 | 22:41 |
| daftykins | diddledan: did you download the UK ISO? | 22:41 |
| daftykins | mapps: yeah the old build doesn't update to the new | 22:42 |
| diddledan | daftykins, I upgraded in-place from an already installed 10 | 22:42 |
| daftykins | meh i only have a VM with nothing on it, i'll just nuke it | 22:42 |
| daftykins | got on on my laptop here under vbox and one on the desktop with vmware ws | 22:42 |
| mapps | i almost lost £2500 on fed..my 3g saved me | 22:45 |
| mapps | lol | 22:45 |
| mapps | if i hadnt have been able to put the match on wouldnt have been able to switch:) | 22:45 |
| daftykins | or you could just not gamble :> | 22:48 |
| mapps | i was trading like a pro on betfair i prefer to say | 22:50 |
| mapps | :d | 22:50 |
| mapps | ;D | 22:50 |
| mapps | layed United at 1/5 for £1000 (200 quid risk) lay the short odds back the big odds1 | 22:50 |
| mapps | fiinished 0-0..meanwhile my mug friend lost like 400 on it ..tsk | 22:51 |
| daftykins | o0 | 22:55 |
| mapps | crazy how much yen is bet on stuff..5.8 million on the federer match 4.5 on united | 22:56 |
| mapps | imagine all that moey in 20 pound notes | 22:56 |
| mapps | :D | 22:56 |
| daftykins | haha | 22:56 |
| daftykins | my mate was working nuclear research in Tokyo, getting paid all in yen in cash. foreigners can't hold accounts or something he said, so he brings it all back to England | 22:57 |
| daftykins | next thing, the Japanese PM is doing some thing which drops the value so it's all worth way less, doh! | 22:57 |
| daftykins | ah i cannot cut this cathedral city cheddar for sandwiches without wanting a piece | 22:57 |
| mapps | lol | 23:00 |
| mapps | really | 23:00 |
| mapps | like suitcases full of cash | 23:00 |
| mapps | cant he get paid into a uk bank | 23:00 |
| diddledan | daftykins, cathedral city is nummy | 23:02 |
| ali1234 | so anyway as i was saying | 23:03 |
| ali1234 | i just want to test the hardware and i only hav a 4GB card | 23:03 |
| daftykins | mapps: i think the language barrier might've had something to do with his reluctance | 23:04 |
| mapps | heh | 23:04 |
| daftykins | gogo virtualbox, give me something other than a blank screen for win10 :P | 23:05 |
| ali1234 | bringing a suitcase full of cash through customs tho... | 23:09 |
| ali1234 | i can't imagine that being easy | 23:09 |
| daftykins | =] | 23:10 |
| mapps | 07827 668566wow | 23:25 |
| mapps | oops | 23:25 |
| mapps | wow android is diff to ios | 23:25 |
| mapps | i cant even figure out how to edit a contact | 23:25 |
| mapps | LOL | 23:25 |
| zmoylan-pi | you're supposed to fire up chrome and log into google and change it there like a good little user :-) | 23:26 |
| mapps | what?! | 23:26 |
| mapps | you cant do it on the phone?! | 23:26 |
| zmoylan-pi | you can but it can be annoying | 23:26 |
| mapps | yea | 23:26 |
| mapps | also its a PITA | 23:27 |
| mapps | if i ring a UK number it says call ended | 23:27 |
| mapps | have to add +44 to every contact | 23:27 |
| mapps | on my iphone if i call 079 xxx abroad it still works | 23:27 |
| daftykins | pfft it's easy | 23:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | shouldn't have to do that. i didn't when i used android phone | 23:27 |
| mapps | what about the second issue> | 23:27 |
| mapps | hmm | 23:27 |
| mapps | honestly 01483 47xxx call ended | 23:27 |
| daftykins | now that you travel a lot you should enter all numbers longhand | 23:27 |
| mapps | type +44 483 and it works | 23:28 |
| daftykins | that's quite funny, 01481 is the Guernsey area code | 23:28 |
| daftykins | :> | 23:28 |
| mapps | :D | 23:28 |
| zmoylan-pi | i just stopped the contacts sync and used the sim for storing numbers | 23:28 |
| daftykins | i only needed to remember 5 digits to call home when i was a kid over at friends ;_; | 23:28 |
| mapps | id rather force it to just work and call uk numbers like normal | 23:28 |
| daftykins | zmoylan-pi: negating the wonderful backup that is cloud data? tsk tsk | 23:29 |
| daftykins | i love not having to deal with that SIM junk anymore | 23:29 |
| zmoylan-pi | if it's important it wouldn't be in the cloud for every one to see | 23:29 |
| diddledan | I love cloud sync | 23:31 |
| diddledan | I'd be lost without it | 23:31 |
| zmoylan-pi | i liked sync on palm, i liked sync on psion, i don't like backing up personal data via internet. | 23:31 |
| diddledan | it just annoys me that each company needs their own silo | 23:32 |
| zmoylan-pi | psion had vcf, palm talked with that | 23:32 |
| daftykins | i had a series 3c with PsiWin :> | 23:32 |
| zmoylan-pi | simple, elegant, worked. then wince came along and it all went wrong | 23:32 |
| zmoylan-pi | psiwin, the most complex vb app i ever locked horns with :-) | 23:33 |
| daftykins | diddledan: ugh what have they done to WIndows Update =| | 23:33 |
| zmoylan-pi | when it worked it was fantastic, when it didn't you'd swear a bit and get it working again | 23:33 |
| zmoylan-pi | vb and serial communications were never 100% | 23:33 |
| diddledan | daftykins, ? | 23:33 |
| daftykins | in win10 | 23:33 |
| diddledan | I can't say I've noticed any diff? | 23:34 |
| daftykins | it ran a metro'y app which brought up a huge settings cog to be the windows update app now | 23:34 |
| daftykins | seems to be joined with backup and restore | 23:35 |
| daftykins | *recovery | 23:35 |
| diddledan | it's part of the new control panel | 23:35 |
| diddledan | the settings app and control panel are almost the same thing (supposedly) now | 23:35 |
| diddledan | or rather more is done via the settings app than the evilness that is the win32 control panel | 23:36 |
| daftykins | ;] | 23:37 |
| daftykins | hmm WU is gone from the Control Panel, that's all i spy | 23:38 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| mapps | vb | 23:44 |
| mapps | urgh | 23:44 |
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