[02:40] The only thing that makes me angrier than systemd is when people call it "System D". [02:41] in text, you mean? [02:41] Yes. [04:19] Google + Apple +systemd = Skynet [04:20] Systemd can do EVERYTHING. Not joking, it can download pics from Internets too [04:21] A few years from now- Im gonna be a Systemd Ambassador. Folks will be going to Systemd-bucon [04:22] Our only form of individuality will be our choice of containers [04:40] Only outlaws will have init [06:05] MarkDude: give me the ability to shapesift or it can't do everything [06:06] fight sarcasm with sarcasm, i guess [17:15] DonkeyHotei, only a touch of sarcasm. d does replace sooo much. Many FOSS folks are ready to endorse other ways to init, if they will work, and get adopted [17:16] Quite a few from the part of Linux this started in. Splits are gonna happen. Eventually tho- d will allow shapeshifting when combined with hololens XD [17:47] pleia2, Did the guy from San Diego ever email you again? I emailed him two days ago about his macbook and he has not responded. [17:47] Maybe I'll email him personally, as I just responded to the list. [17:49] philipballew: he's not subscribed to the list, so you do want to include him on the Cc [17:49] pleia2, alright, I see. [17:49] (sorry, didn't realize he wasn't included on your mail until now) [17:49] pleia2, I'll just email him personally I guess maybe. [17:50] * pleia2 nods [17:50] I usually have no problem fixing a touchpad, but it is a macbook, so it might be a struggle... [17:51] I know there are linux tools for the old PPC macs to handle touchpads, but honestly I've never used a mac from this decade with linux [17:53] Me either, i would sell it and buy a old dell or something if I was him. [17:53] Craigslist if filled with them here. [17:53] a lot of people really like mac hardware [17:54] I never quite got the fascination myself, but it is what it is :) [17:54] pleia2, yeah, I mean it is nice hardware I guess. It seems that if you are not using osx, then the point of a mac does not seem worth it as much. [17:55] I dunno, most mac folks go on about how awesome applecare is, I've never had to get my laptops repaired in the first 4 years, why would you want a laptop that needs such a thing? [17:55] doesn't seem so great to me [17:56] oh, and my laptops have always been horrible cheap things, until recently [17:56] The only time I had to get a laptop fixed was when I crashed on my bike and Dell came right out three days later and installed a new screen. [17:56] With apple you have to go to the apple store [17:57] but they do have good customer care for sure [17:57] Macs are more durable though than some other brands [18:23] pleia2 I think you've just been a statistical outlier then [18:25] when philip mentioned durability I did realize that in spite of traveling so much, I'm quite gentle with my hardware, so maybe that's it :)