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Kiloshi captine  ambo_  gremble  Squirm  nuvolari  octoquad  and others05:45
Kilosoh my and inetpro  as well too05:46
grembleHello Kilos 05:58
gremblewww.voidlinux.eu :o06:00
grembleThat looks pretty cool06:00
Kiloswhat gui will it use or is everything cli based?06:07
nuvolarioh hi omo Kilos 06:28
nuvolarier06:28
nuvolari*oom06:28
nuvolarioh hi gremble 06:28
Kiloslol06:29
ThatGraemeGuylo06:35
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy  06:36
superflymorning Kilos, gremble, nuvolari, ThatGraemeGuy06:44
Kiloshi superfly  06:45
Kilosrev telkom06:45
Kilosthey seem to give better service to mobile peeps06:46
ThatGraemeGuyhi fly06:46
=== Symmetri1 is now known as Symmetria
grembleKilos: it can use whatever gui you would like it to use07:02
grembleIt is initially installed with no GUI though07:02
Kilosah 07:03
grembleya'll needs SASL authentication07:07
Kilosand the same to you07:07
Kilospeeps always vloek me07:07
Kilossigh07:07
grembleI authenticate with SASl07:08
grembleSASL*07:08
KilosSASL?07:08
Kiloshehe07:08
ThatGraemeGuyMaaz: google sasl07:08
MaazThatGraemeGuy: "Simple Authentication and Security Layer (SASL) - Wikipedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Authentication_and_Security_Layer :: "SASL: Simple Authentication and Security Layer - Andrew Systems ..." http://asg.web.cmu.edu/sasl/ :: "Connecting with SASL - Freenode" https://freenode.net/sasl/ :: "RFC 4422 - Simple Authentication and Security07:08
MaazLayer (SASL)" https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4422 :: "Postfix SASL Howto" http://www.postfix.…07:08
ThatGraemeGuytada!07:08
Kilosyou think i got my email addy for a joke07:09
Kilosty ThatGraemeGuy  07:09
Kiloswhen i first started with internet use, the lady that helped me suggested it, because i knew so little07:10
grembleThat's not very nice of her07:11
Kilosya but so true07:11
Kilosi was totally doff07:11
inetprogood mornings07:12
Kilosbut i could fix her bmws auto gearbox07:12
Kiloshello my pro07:12
Kilosso the 2days work on the car payed for the months teaching on xp07:13
inetprooh and hi Kilos as well :-)07:13
ThatGraemeGuylo pro07:14
Kiloshehe so cheeky07:14
Kilosinetpro  if i have no reply from the namibia ubuntu team within a week will you germanise the mail for us?07:16
inetprouh, why?07:17
Kilosi looked at the zim ubuntu peeps but their emails are even dead07:17
Kiloswell they maybe like you and dont understand english07:18
* Kilos ducks07:18
grembleActually, I think Afrikaans is more widely spread in Namibia than English07:18
Kilosi didnt think of that. ill wait and see then try again07:20
Kilosmaybe i should join their group first07:21
Kilosbut now back to whatsapp on fone07:21
Kilosgrrr07:21
Kilosi even have the user guide hehe07:22
Kiloshi Xethron  07:25
Kiloshmm... i woke up07:36
Kilosxperia will never find the playstore without a gmail account07:36
Kilosi turned it off because i dont need mails here and on fone grrr07:37
grembleYou can turn of emails07:42
grembleoff*07:42
Kilosgreat ill look for thaat ty gremble  07:42
charlgood morinng08:00
charl*morning08:00
charlMaaz: coffee on08:00
* Maaz washes some mugs08:00
Kiloshi c ha08:03
Kilosai!08:03
Kiloscharl  too08:03
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!08:04
charlMaaz: danke08:14
MaazBitteschön08:14
mazalMorning everyone08:14
Kiloshi mazal  08:14
charlhi mazal, Kilos 08:17
ThatGraemeGuy<Kilos> i turned it off because i dont need mails here and on fone grrr09:35
ThatGraemeGuy<gremble> You can turn of emails09:35
ThatGraemeGuyo_O09:35
ThatGraemeGuythis is probably the third time you've gone down this road09:35
ThatGraemeGuysettings/accounts/google account/uncheck gmail09:36
Kilosty09:36
charlhi ThatGraemeGuy 09:39
ThatGraemeGuy'lo :)09:39
grembleThe road less travelled has to be travelled over and over and over and over and ...09:39
Kilosfor sure09:40
arnaudmezHello10:03
arnaudmezHappy New year bros !!10:04
grembleYou're only almost a month late10:07
grembleWell done10:07
gremble:P10:07
Kiloshi arnaudmez  same for you ty10:07
arnaudmezhi Kilos10:07
arnaudmezhi gremble10:07
Kilosyou not supposed to be away so long10:08
arnaudmezFrench countries celebrate it until they get tired and i'm living in a french country10:08
Kilosyou supposed to be here daily10:08
arnaudmezSo i will keep it until i get bored of this HNY thing10:08
Kilosok maybe you are the guy i need10:09
Kiloswhere are you again? 10:09
Kilosim trying to get as amny countries in africa linked so we can grow the ubuntu community in africa10:10
Kilosas many10:10
arnaudmezI'm in Congo Brazzaville10:11
arnaudmezThat's interresting Kilos10:11
arnaudmezExplain the topo10:11
Kilosthats just what i want10:11
Kiloswell if you look at the ubuntu map. africa is sadly behind other continents10:12
arnaudmezlink ?10:12
Kiloseish now ive lost that link10:12
Kilosim looking10:13
KilosMaaz  google ubuntu map10:13
MaazKilos: "Maps — Ubuntu Apps Directory" https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/maps/ :: "Ubuntu - OpenStreetMap Wiki" http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ubuntu :: "Open Street Map Installation Tutorial (Ubuntu 12.04) - SlideShare" http://www.slideshare.net/MarcHuang1/osm-installation-en :: "osm-gps-map package : Ubuntu - Launchpad"10:13
Maazhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/osm-gps-map :: "GMapCatcher, An Offline Google and OpenStreet ... - Ubuntu Vibes" h…10:13
Kilosai!10:13
Kilosgremble  can you see last nights link to slexy.org from me please10:15
Kiloskonversation grays out old stuff10:15
gremble http://slexy.org/view/s2uqc4PO0Q 10:16
arnaudmezThanks Kilos10:16
arnaudmezhaving a look just now10:16
grembleThis one?10:16
Kiloslemme see ty10:16
Kilosarnaudmez  http://people.ubuntu.com/~chilicuil/ubuntumembers-map.html10:17
arnaudmezokay I see better now10:17
arnaudmezKilos: what do we need to do for this to get fixed10:18
Kilosarnaudmez  that slexy link is what i want to send to all the ubuntu groups all over10:18
arnaudmezat least for the Congo my country10:18
arnaudmezlet me see10:18
Kilosi need to know if there is an ubuntu community there 10:18
Kiloswho are the admin guys and their contact info or you can be the contact if you like10:19
Kilosmaybe even build an official Loco there10:19
arnaudmez_put me as a contact please10:20
arnaudmez_principal Admin and contact10:20
Kilosright can you mail me all your info to msdomdonner@gmail.com10:21
Kilosand also help me find other ubuntu contacts in surrounding countries10:22
KilosSymmetria  you can help too10:23
Kilosai they got worse net than we do10:25
arnaudmez_Kilos: who ?10:27
Kilosarnaudmez_  who what?10:27
Kilosim lost10:27
Kiloslol10:27
arnaudmezKilos: email me atn arnaud.mezenga@syn73.com with details you want me to fill in and I will proceed right now10:28
Kiloscool ty10:28
Kilosactually arnaudmez  greate a wiki page for yourself as well10:31
Kiloscreate10:31
arnaudmezokay, wiki page ... please direct me ... what will be the best wiki site to use ?10:32
Kilossec10:32
Kiloshere is mine 10:33
KilosGood morning to you, I am from South Africa and we were discussing linking up the various African countries the other night.10:33
KilosWe use irc > freenode > #ubuntu-za and mailing list  ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com to stay in contact, and grow ubuntu in this manner. We have 2 members on the ubuntu-dev team and another python programmer who has a package in the repos. On our irc channel we are also available for online help to any linux users anywhere. We have members on other linux distributions as well, such as, archlinux,  redhat and some others. We also have members in the 10:33
KilosNetherlands Belguim the UK and other countries. please feel free to join us and maybe have a contact person on our irc channel. If you look at this map you will see Africa is sadly lagging behind.10:33
Kiloshttp://people.ubuntu.com/~chilicuil/ubuntumembers-map.html10:33
KilosLets get together and grow Ubuntu Africa.10:33
KilosHoping to hear from you soon.10:33
KilosMiles Sharpe10:33
KilosKilos on IRC10:33
Kilosai10:33
Kilossorry guys10:33
Kiloshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos#preview10:33
Kilosgot mixed up with left and right clicks10:33
Kilosyou need a launchpad account10:34
Kiloshttps://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/NewAccount10:36
Kiloshmm...10:44
arnaudmezlauchpad account you said10:45
arnaudmezwill proceed this evening with that10:45
arnaudmezbut first I've replied to you10:45
Kilosyip you need that to create a wiki page10:45
Kiloscool10:45
arnaudmezand i will keep those links 10:45
Kilosthan you10:46
Kilosthank you too10:46
Kiloswhew typing getting worse10:46
arnaudmezno problemo10:46
Kilosim trying to get contact info for somaunn as well so if you know him chase him here please10:49
Kilosoh sorry arnaudmez  did you need help with something?10:50
arnaudmezSomaunn+arnaudmez=the same person10:50
Kilosoh my goodness thats lekker10:51
Kilosget all your ubuntu peeps to get launchpad accounts10:53
Kilosactually all your linux users is good too10:53
mazalKan die dag nie maar klaarkom nie10:56
Kiloshahaha10:56
mazalErger as 'n Maandag vandag10:56
Kilosdit begin nou eers interesant word man10:57
mazalEk begin nou daai gaaivol punt bereik10:57
Kilosai!10:58
Kilosdrink koffie10:58
KilosMaaz  coffee on10:58
* Maaz washes some mugs10:58
mazalVirusse en id10t's heel dag lank10:58
KilosMaaz  with rusks10:59
MaazThere is a packet of Ouma's in the cupboard Kilos help yourself10:59
Kilosyou have to educate you internet users better10:59
mazalEn stupid Win10:59
arnaudmezty Kilos10:59
Kiloscool arnaudmez  11:00
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!11:02
arnaudmezmazal: what I did, install VMware > Put windows there11:02
KilosMaaz  ty11:03
MaazYou are welcome Kilos11:03
arnaudmezMy PC runs Fed21 full time11:03
mazalI can't arnaudmez11:03
arnaudmezmazal: why 11:03
mazalIs not a personal choice , it's forced unto us as it's the work's OS of choice11:03
mazalSo we are stuck with the junk11:03
arnaudmezmazal: One thing i've learned for years now!!! Never put your life into work stuffs (laptops, phones, etc.)11:04
arnaudmezthere is always a choice to make11:04
mazalUnfortunately this one is not ours to make11:04
arnaudmezask them for you to use you laptop (personal) just setup a VM there ... 11:05
mazalNo you don't understand , is not just me , we are managing a network of over 300 pc's11:05
arnaudmeztell them, they will save money doing that and if they want you will provide them with that full system image the day you the fight against them .... :D11:05
mazalWe are the maintainers , hence why we are the once stuck with all the issues11:05
Kilosarnaudmez  they have many pcs to maintain , and all of them have to be on win11:05
Kilosah im slow again11:06
arnaudmezKilos, mazal: that's an electronic nightmare11:06
Kilosyeah11:06
mazalIndeed11:06
Kilosyou also cannot tell a government what to do, they have to learn the hard way11:07
mazalAnd then once everything falls apart they blame someone else11:07
mazalSeker oom Jan se skuld11:07
Kiloslol11:08
mazalDis hy wat al die virusse saam hom hier aangebring het !!11:08
mazalBut on a non-work related matter. Virtual OS is something I must still learn someday11:09
mazalI don't need it , but just for my own knowledge. Have never tried a virtual OS inside another one11:10
Kilosits actuallt quite lekker11:13
Kilosactually11:13
Kilosjust slower11:13
arnaudmezmazal: this is for you https://www.virtualbox.org/11:13
arnaudmezmazal: this one too www.vmware.com11:13
Kilosthere is a faster one than virtualbox11:14
arnaudmezI'm working as a support team member and i'm doing config of POS's throught my Vmachine and it's working just like a dream11:14
mazalI'll ask you again one day when I get the time to learn it :)11:19
Kiloshehe11:21
Kilosi need to ask for what it is called as well11:21
arnaudmezfaster VM manager than vbox ?11:31
Kilosyeah11:31
Kilosinetpro  is using it and ThatGraemeGuy  i think11:32
ThatGraemeGuyeh11:32
Kilosthe fast virtual machine ThatGraemeGuy  11:32
ThatGraemeGuyuuuuuuhhhhh11:33
* ThatGraemeGuy confused11:33
arnaudmezshould be http://virt-manager.org/ if i'm not wrong ... someone to correct me 11:33
ThatGraemeGuyoh for kvm stuffs11:34
Kilosfaster than virtualbox11:34
ThatGraemeGuywe use proxmox11:34
Kilosya thats it11:34
ThatGraemeGuybut virt-manager is probably the same deal11:34
ThatGraemeGuythey are all just tools for managing VMs based on KVM11:34
Kilosty11:35
arnaudmezproxmox ??? never eared about11:35
ThatGraemeGuyKVM is what does the real work and thats the same whether you are using proxmox, virt-manager, virsh or any of a few dozen others11:35
ThatGraemeGuyhttps://www.proxmox.com/proxmox-ve11:36
charli hear good things of ovirt11:41
charli have never been a big fan of proxmox11:41
arnaudmezokay guys i got it11:42
arnaudmezproxmox is a paravirt solution11:42
charlvirtualbox isn't bad for desktop virtualisation though even though it's not entirely open source11:42
ThatGraemeGuyi honestly haven't used a significant variety of the KVM management tools to have any sort of meaningful opinion11:42
charlvmware is faster but vmware is entirely proprietary11:42
arnaudmezit's actually depends on what you want to achieve11:42
charlvirtualbox is the default vagrant provider as well but there is a vagrant kvm provider too11:43
arnaudmezcharl: http://virt-manager.org/ is also a good thing it's integrate directly with KVM and do the Job11:43
arnaudmezevery person passing the RHCSA or RHCE cursus need to understand KVM by the use of virt-manager11:44
charlproblem is most images on the vagrant cloud are only "compiled" for virtualbox11:44
charlarnaudmez: i know of it, i have used it back in 07/0811:44
charlone of the first versions of that i believe, can't recall11:44
charlit was the first kvm gui tool afaik11:45
charli run here a combination of virtualbox and vmware but not happy with either11:46
charlbut those are the best supported so if you want to get things done without too much hassle ...11:46
charlon the server i would definitely go for either xen source or for kvm11:46
arnaudmezyeah, i understand that 11:48
arnaudmezthat why i said "peoples who are passing RH cursus..."11:48
charlganeti used to be really cool11:49
arnaudmezI'm now using vmware only and find it even better, still I need to understand their internal network principle11:49
charlnot sure if anyone still use that11:49
charlvmware networking ... heh heh heh11:50
charli try to just run everything in bridge mode11:50
mazalmaaz koffie on11:50
Maazmazal: Huh?11:50
mazalmaaz kettle on11:50
Maazmazal: Excuse me?11:50
mazalAg nee man11:50
charlcoffee on mazal 11:50
mazalAh11:50
mazalmaaz koffie11:51
MaazVra in engels man mazal11:51
mazalmaaz coffee on11:51
* Maaz puts the kettle on11:51
mazalyay !!!!11:51
charlgive Maaz a kick in the bottom bucket11:51
mazalHi charl11:51
charlMaaz: coffee please11:51
Maazcharl: Righto11:51
charlhi mazal :)11:51
mazalShees I am struggling to keep my eyes open11:51
mazalAll of sudden the moeg attacks me11:51
charlnono it's friday11:52
charlfirst it's beer o clock and then it's sleep time later11:52
mazalDunno what's going on these days , have zero energy :P11:53
mazalmaaz hurry up dude11:54
Maazmazal: *blink*11:54
MaazCoffee's ready for mazal and charl!11:55
mazalmaaz dankie tog11:55
Maazmazal: Sorry...11:55
mazalmaaz we are going to have to work on our communication11:56
Maazmazal: I already know stuff about we11:56
mazaloh boy11:56
Kiloslol11:56
charlMaaz: danke11:58
MaazBitteschön11:58
charlMaaz is all like "ich verstehe dein denglish nicht"11:59
charlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUua8CcWLdg12:00
mazalMy speakers don't work :(12:01
mazalWell , they work , but so soft I can't here anything really12:02
charlbah12:13
Kiloshi Private_User  12:27
Private_Userhi Kilos12:34
Private_Userhmm...12:35
Private_UserKilos: no longer part of ##ubuntu-za-social?12:35
Kilosoh my12:35
Kilosi forgot to add it when i had to install again12:35
Private_Userlol12:39
charlso it turns out there are a couple of things that i don't understand12:39
Private_Useryeah we always forget the minor stuff after a reinstall12:39
charlfirstly, the obvious thing to do with a new version of *buntu is to try it in virtualbox12:39
charldownloaded kubuntu vivid, open it in virtualbox, it's a display mess12:39
charldownloaded lubuntu vivid, open it in virtualbox, display is also a mess12:40
charlthese are the small things that mean you either make it or you don't12:40
charlno wonder so few people run ubuntu on a desktop12:40
charllinux mint, on the other side, works perfectly (of course)12:40
charlwhy, because mint is not made by The Evil Linux Enpire (TM)12:41
mazalI'm off. Have a nice weekend everyone. Be safe and God bless12:43
Kilosyou too lad12:43
Kilosbehave12:43
Kilosoi12:43
charllubuntu and kubuntu both fail but guess what... kylin works perfectly12:45
ThatGraemeGuydebian ftw12:45
* ThatGraemeGuy hides12:46
charlindeed ThatGraemeGuy 12:46
charlapparently we should just sell ourselves over to the chinese because we are now unable to produce quality products in the west12:46
arnaudmezcharl: not bad at least something worx12:46
charlthe default wallpaper choice is also much better in kylin12:47
arnaudmezsomeone can advise here ? i'm looking for a screen recorder software12:47
ThatGraemeGuyarnaudmez: http://www.maartenbaert.be/simplescreenrecorder/12:47
arnaudmezty ThatGraemeGuy12:48
charlit is also useless to run unity inside vmware due to the graphical effects12:48
ThatGraemeGuynp12:48
charlyou would think somebody would have been intelligent enough to detect the lack of gpu and simply turn all that crap off automatically12:49
charlah will you look at that, ubuntu vivid gnome 3 works perfectly12:49
ThatGraemeGuyits' open source, get coding12:49
charlthere we go, gnome 3 ftw12:50
charlforget about unity and kubuntu12:50
charland lubuntu for that matter12:50
charlThatGraemeGuy: i have never worked on a linux desktop in my life12:50
charlprogrammed i mean12:50
ThatGraemeGuythen why are you cluttering up our channel with your ranting if you aren't willing to be part of the solution? :)12:51
Kilosrofl12:51
Private_Userlol12:52
charlThatGraemeGuy: because i am playing the average user, and the average user is not a programmer :)12:52
charlso that's a very simple answer12:52
charlif you are going to tell the average user "go fix the problem yourself" you will very fast have no users left12:52
ThatGraemeGuystatistically the average user is probably using windows 7 actually12:54
ThatGraemeGuyand utterly unaware of everything you ranted about12:54
charlwell then it's time to change that...12:55
charlbut change starts by getting the basics right12:55
ThatGraemeGuyyes yes12:55
charli should rephrase "the average linux user" not the average user, valid point though12:55
ThatGraemeGuyyou do realise you are not the first one to go down this road? :)12:55
charltrue, true12:55
charlbut you see, my point is basically this: i have friends/colleagues/other people i know12:56
charlthey (mostly) use windows12:56
ThatGraemeGuyin my mind one of the greatest challenges in the world of open source is the ease with which people go off to reinvent the wheel12:56
charli'm the *only* real linux desktop user in the office12:56
charli tell them to go try it, this is their experience, and they move back to windows12:56
ThatGraemeGuythere was a time you used KDE or GNOME, or a light window manager like (flux|open)box, or whatnot12:56
ThatGraemeGuythe fragmentation is getting worse, not better12:56
charlvery true that12:57
charlfor example people ask me "which desktop should i try" and i honestly don't know what to answer12:57
Kilosai!12:58
charlsome people like unity, some people like gnome, some people like kde, some people like mate, cinnamon, lxde, xfce, i3, enlightenment etc etc12:58
charlso what do you end up recommending *shrug*12:58
Kilospoint them to a lts thats stable already12:58
Kilosnew peeps should never go to a new release unless they know where to go for help13:04
charlalso true Kilos 13:07
=== help is now known as Guest7907
Kiloshi Guest7907  13:32
Kiloswassup mage13:32
Guest7907hi Kilos it is magespawn13:32
Kiloswhats broken13:32
Guest7907nickserv is telling magespawn is already in use13:32
Guest7907hold a sec13:32
Guest7907brb13:33
Kiloswb magespawn  13:34
magespawnty13:34
magespawnnot sure what happened ther13:34
magespawnthere13:34
Kiloslol13:34
Kiloshelp is actually a good nick for noobs with probs13:35
=== arnaudmez is now known as arnaudmez_
arnaudmez_camstudio=crap > recordmydesktop=good14:07
charlhi magespawn 14:09
magespawnhi charl14:11
Kiloshmm...15:12
Kilosearly storm decided my pc needs a rest15:14
Kiloshi Tonberry_  16:09
Tonberry_hi16:09
magespawngood evening16:42
Kiloshi magespawn  16:44
SquirmGreetings16:49
magespawnhi Squirm 16:49
Kiloshi Squirm  16:50
gremblemagespawn: next time nickserv says that your nick is in use, just use the ghost command: nickserve ghost magespawn password12316:50
Squirmyep16:51
magespawnahh yes i forgot the nickserve part16:51
grembleoh it is /msg nickserve :P16:51
gremblethat is important, otherwise you would be sharing your password with us16:52
magespawni was using: nick ghost 16:52
gremble(I've done that before)16:52
magespawnme too16:54
magespawnfollowed very quickly by a password reset16:54
Kilosi go eat17:00
KilosMaaz  watch them17:01
MaazOK Kilos I'll keep an eye on them for you17:01
grembleI forgot how annoying join/part messages are17:03
captineeve all.  where does one get all the details of what maaz will do or say?17:09
captineseems he is pretty intelligent :)17:09
captineor she....17:09
grembleI don't think a python script generally identifies with a gender. You can send him a private message with help perhaps to get some information17:11
SquirmMaaz: help17:12
MaazSquirm: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.17:12
MaazAsk me "help me with ..." for more details.17:12
Squirmcaptine: like that :)17:12
SquirmMaaz: help with games17:12
MaazSquirm: I use the following features for games: duel and werewolf17:12
MaazAsk me "how do I use ..." for more details.17:12
SquirmMaaz: duel17:12
MaazSquirm: What?17:12
SquirmMaaz: help with duel17:12
MaazSquirm: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features.17:12
magespawnand if you use a private message then you can practice away17:12
SquirmMaaz: how do I use duek17:13
MaazSquirm: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features.17:13
captinecool.  thanks17:13
SquirmMaaz: how do I use duel17:13
MaazSquirm: Duel at dawn, between channel members. You can use it like this:17:13
Maaz  draw [my <weapon>]17:13
Maaz  bam|pew|bang|kapow|pewpew|holyhandgrenadeofantioch17:13
Maaz  I challenge <user> to a duel [over <something>]17:13
Maaz  I demand satisfaction from <user> [over <something>]17:13
Maaz  I throw the gauntlet down at <user>'s feet [over <something>]17:13
SquirmMaaz: challenge magespawn to a duel over freedom of text17:13
Maazmagespawn: The gauntlet has been thrown at your feet. Do you accept?17:13
Maazmagespawn appears to have fled the country during the night17:14
Squirm:/17:15
captinefunny17:15
superflyLogged an ADSL fault via my ISP17:21
magespawnlol17:24
magespawnany luck superfly?17:24
superflymagespawn: did it when I got home an hour ago, will have to see how long it takes17:24
superfly*sigh* I can't seem to browse any sites via my phone17:25
superflyonly things like IRC and Telegram work17:26
superflyI'm on HSDPA for crying out loud!17:26
Kilosai!17:28
Squirmsuperfly: who's your ISP?17:29
superflySquirm: Axxess17:31
superflySquirm: was a Telkom fault, but they haven't fixed it properly yet, so I asked my ISP to prod them along17:31
Squirm:/17:31
SquirmGood thinking17:31
superflyIn my opinion, Axxess is by far the best out there.17:31
SquirmThey seem to be doing well, don't know many people using them17:32
SquirmI'm also pretty impressed with Afrihost though17:32
superflyI used to use Afrihost, but when I moved and my ADSL moved, they couldn't get 2 and 2 together, so I dropped them and switched to Axxess, best decision I ever made (second only to marrying my wife ;-) )17:33
Kiloslol17:36
Kiloshmm...17:37
KilosMaaz  announce Don't forget tuesday nights monthly meeting guys17:37
Kilosai!17:38
KilosMaaz  hey17:38
MaazAnnouncement from Kilos! Don't forget tuesday nights monthly meeting guys17:38
* Maaz waves to Kilos17:38
Kiloswow that took long17:38
KilosMaaz  wake up17:39
superflyTuesday is also the day when DebConf 16 is decided17:39
Squirmsuperfly: that's cool, Axxess has some good deals too17:40
SquirmCan't afford ADSL at the moment17:40
=== magespaw1 is now known as magespawn
Squirm:/17:40
Kilosai!17:40
Kilostough in africa17:41
superflySquirm: it's one of those non-negotiables in our house17:41
Squirmsuperfly: Yeah... I took out a Telkom Mobile contract, uncapped data until the end of March, but I might need to save up for their 60Gb+60Gb package17:42
Squirmand I get 2+2 Afrihost bundle from work(for work though, kind of, don't really need it for work at the moment)17:42
grembleWhy'd you kill the bot, Kilos?17:44
SquirmCurrently download from my old S3 as a WiFi hotspot, averaging I'd say... 500KB/s17:44
Kilossorry17:44
Kilosmaahi17:44
Kilosai!17:45
Squirmwho's maahi?17:45
Kiloscocooncrash_  please help. maaz is dead17:45
Kilosthat was maa tab hi17:45
Kiloslol17:45
KilosMaaz  wb17:45
MaazThank you so much Kilos my good good friend17:45
Squirmoh, look who it is17:45
Kilosyay17:45
SquirmMaaz: welcom17:45
MaazSquirm: Huh?17:45
SquirmMaaz: huh yourself17:46
MaazSquirm: Sorry...17:46
Kiloshahaha17:46
Kilosi think its the laughs here that keep me going17:46
SquirmKilos: what do you mean?17:46
Kilosone needs a good laugh daily17:47
Squirm:)17:47
Kilosif i sat here all day with a long face i'd expire im sure17:47
Kilosdoes anyone here speal french?17:49
Kilosapart from gitem17:49
Kilosi dont even know how to spell that17:49
Squirmdoes 'speal' mean speak in french?17:49
Kilosoh my17:49
Kilosrofl17:49
Kiloshee hee17:49
grembleI sometimes pretend to to flirt with girls17:49
grembleDoes that count?17:49
Kilossorry17:49
SquirmKilos: I know :)17:50
Squirmgremble: haha17:50
Kilosno gremble  i want someone to help the congo guys get a loco going17:50
Kilosstop with the jokes for a while now, tummy sore already17:51
grembleProbably because you've been slacking on your 130 daily push-ups and crunches17:52
Kilossjoe17:52
grembleHaha Don't "shoe" me. :P My grandfather is 84 and weightlifts 3 times a week haha17:53
Kilosthose days are long gone17:53
Kiloshead dont allow much physical stuff17:53
grembleAww17:53
Kilosya painful. i used to be very active17:53
Kilosused to be able to take a fair sized bull by the horns and twist till he dropped17:54
Kilosnow i battle with a 20kg lamb17:55
Kiloshehe17:55
Kilosbut i got internet17:55
grembleYou should just remind the lamb that it would be delicious on a spit17:55
* gremble makes a note that he should get one for his birthday this year17:55
Kiloslol shame i think the thing has brain damage17:55
Kilosbut when it sees me it starts clapping its jaws together in anticipation of all the mulberry leaves its going to get17:56
Kilosvery funny little thing17:56
Kilosthey actually expensive to buy nowadays. not many peeps can afford lamb for a spit anymore17:58
grembleI probably can't either17:58
gremblebut it would be nice to see if I can organise something17:58
gremblehaha17:58
Kilosi think its around 80 bucks a kg17:59
grembleI'll have to get a really tiny one then17:59
grembleD:17:59
Kilosand a nice size for spit is 15 to 20 kg18:00
grembleYou're dashing all my hopes and dreams18:00
Kilosmeat prices have gone mad18:00
Kilossorry18:00
Kilosi can post you some lamb droppings free18:00
Kiloseven some lambs wool18:01
grembleI've always wanted poop18:01
Kiloslol good for the garden18:02
Kiloswe got tons18:02
grembleI prefer the personal touch to gardening18:02
grembleSo I generally prefer to poop in my own garden18:02
Kiloslol18:02
Kilosoh my someone was here today using unity and wanted to upgrade18:04
Kilosi forgot to tell him to use the built in backup tool18:05
Kilosdeja-dup18:05
Kilosmakes great backups18:05
Kiloswb magespawn  18:07
magespawnty Kilos18:08
KilosPrivate_User  wb18:09
Private_Userthank you Kilos18:10
magespawnlooks like the net is not playing the game tonight18:10
Kilosyou must try sort your client to cloak before login in here18:10
Private_Usermy connection seems to be crap today18:10
Private_Useron and off18:10
Private_Useroff and on18:10
Kiloswhat client are you using18:11
Kilosxchat?18:11
Private_UserPidgin18:11
Private_Userbut I think its my connectivity18:11
Kilossjoe i havent done that for years18:11
Kilosnono18:11
Private_Usernot sure if its the weather18:11
Kiloswatch18:11
Kilos-> Private_User (~Private_U@197.109.74.135) has joined this channel.18:11
Kilos[23/01/2015 20:08] <-- Private_User (~Private_U@197.109.74.135) has left this server (Changing host).18:11
Kilos[23/01/2015 20:08] --> Private_User (~Private_U@unaffiliated/private-user/x-9143494) has joined this channel.18:11
Kilossee you dont login cloaked18:12
Private_Useror because I am sitting in my parent out building and working18:12
Kilosin pidgin is there 2 places to enter your password18:12
Private_UserItested last weekend and it was fine18:12
Private_Userlet me check18:12
Kilosone at server , i forget the other one18:12
Private_UserI only see on in the settings18:13
Kilosai!18:13
Kiloswe can ask the peeps on freenode18:14
Private_Userbut I think its my connection18:14
Kilos do /j #freenode18:14
Private_Usercause you never saw that before I assume since you only mention today?18:14
Kilosmaybe ok leave it now but i think thats how you always login18:14
Kilosi just never thought about it18:14
Private_Userok lets see how it goes if it continues I will go back into the house and check18:15
Kilosnot serious just uses 3 lines instead of one and shows your ip the first time18:15
Private_Usertrying to make this my office so this year I can start making some money18:16
Kilosgood18:16
Private_Userok thanks for mentioning Kilos18:16
Kilosnp18:16
Private_Userlets monitor it and see how it goes18:16
Kiloswill do18:16
Private_Userbut the connectivity is crap at the moment18:16
magespawn]funny how it seems to go through stages like that18:17
Kilosthe peeps at #freenode are very helpful and im sure they have pidgin users there too18:17
Private_Userthanks Kilos18:18
Kilosi think its if freenode ses your password before open channels it cloaks you18:18
Private_UserI will give them a shout when this connection gets better if not then I will have to go into the house and try again18:18
Kilossees18:18
inetprogremble, magespawn: it's nickserv not nickserve18:19
inetprogood evening18:19
Kilosill go with you to freenode 18:19
Kiloshi thewre inetpro  18:19
Kilosoh i forgot18:19
Kilosim not deaf or blind, just ignoring you18:19
* Kilos hides18:20
inetproai!18:20
Private_Usernah I am convinced its my connectivity trying other stuff that is normally quick and still very delayed18:20
Kilosjou beurt is jou beurt18:20
Kilosnp Private_User  we can check it out18:21
* inetpro hides in the corner again18:21
Kilosno rush18:21
Kilosinetpro  wb my friend18:21
inetproty Kilos18:21
Kilosthe 2 passwords are nickserv password and server password18:23
magespawnand there we go again18:29
Kiloslol18:30
magespawni am off for tonight, good night all18:41
Kilossjoe so fast18:41
inetprogood night mage[tab]18:43
Kilosinetpro  dont even try catch up tonight. peeps chatted lots today18:45
inetproway too much, I see18:45
* inetpro too tired to even try18:45
Kilosbut some was interesting18:45
inetprolike?18:45
Kilosgot congo to belinked with us so we can maybe get them to form thier own loco they have 20 members18:46
Kilosbut they nearly all speak french18:46
Kilosonly arnaud speaks english18:47
Kilosarnaud=somaunn18:47
inetprothat's nice18:47
Kilosill try get more18:47
inetprothey applying for memberships?18:47
Kilosive got them to first get accounts at launchpad18:48
Kilosmight take a while18:48
inetpromooi!18:48
superflyhi inetpro18:49
Kilosiirc most are linux noobs18:49
inetprohello superfly18:49
inetprosuperfly: you back online again?18:51
superflynope18:51
superflyusing my phone as a wifi hotspot18:51
captineKilos, you've been busy18:52
Kilosi try captine  18:52
Kilosi was lucky with the congo because arnaud first came here for help18:53
Kilosthe others are not as easy to even get mail replies from18:54
* inetpro wonders whether there's a map with launchpad members?18:54
Kilosgoogle is your friend18:55
Kiloshehe18:55
inetprotomorrow is another day... good night19:01
Kilosnight inetpro  19:01
Kilossleep tight19:01
captinenight19:20
Kilosnight captine  19:20
Kiloslekker slaap19:20
captinelol.  was saying night to inetpro19:20
Kiloshaha19:20
captinewaiting for my some to wake for his 10pm bottle, then to bed i go19:20
Kilosai!19:21
Kiloskids are hard work19:21
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:31

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