[05:45] <Kilos> hi captine  ambo_  gremble  Squirm  nuvolari  octoquad  and others
[05:46] <Kilos> oh my and inetpro  as well too
[05:58] <gremble> Hello Kilos 
[06:00] <gremble> www.voidlinux.eu :o
[06:00] <gremble> That looks pretty cool
[06:07] <Kilos> what gui will it use or is everything cli based?
[06:28] <nuvolari> oh hi omo Kilos 
[06:28] <nuvolari> er
[06:28] <nuvolari> *oom
[06:28] <nuvolari> oh hi gremble 
[06:29] <Kilos> lol
[06:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> lo
[06:36] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[06:44] <superfly> morning Kilos, gremble, nuvolari, ThatGraemeGuy
[06:45] <Kilos> hi superfly  
[06:45] <Kilos> rev telkom
[06:46] <Kilos> they seem to give better service to mobile peeps
[06:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> hi fly
[07:02] <gremble> Kilos: it can use whatever gui you would like it to use
[07:02] <gremble> It is initially installed with no GUI though
[07:03] <Kilos> ah 
[07:07] <gremble> ya'll needs SASL authentication
[07:07] <Kilos> and the same to you
[07:07] <Kilos> peeps always vloek me
[07:07] <Kilos> sigh
[07:08] <gremble> I authenticate with SASl
[07:08] <gremble> SASL*
[07:08] <Kilos> SASL?
[07:08] <Kilos> hehe
[07:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> Maaz: google sasl
[07:08] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy: "Simple Authentication and Security Layer (SASL) - Wikipedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Authentication_and_Security_Layer :: "SASL: Simple Authentication and Security Layer - Andrew Systems ..." http://asg.web.cmu.edu/sasl/ :: "Connecting with SASL - Freenode" https://freenode.net/sasl/ :: "RFC 4422 - Simple Authentication and Security
[07:08] <Maaz> Layer (SASL)" https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4422 :: "Postfix SASL Howto" http://www.postfix.…
[07:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> tada!
[07:09] <Kilos> you think i got my email addy for a joke
[07:09] <Kilos> ty ThatGraemeGuy  
[07:10] <Kilos> when i first started with internet use, the lady that helped me suggested it, because i knew so little
[07:11] <gremble> That's not very nice of her
[07:11] <Kilos> ya but so true
[07:11] <Kilos> i was totally doff
[07:12] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:12] <Kilos> but i could fix her bmws auto gearbox
[07:12] <Kilos> hello my pro
[07:13] <Kilos> so the 2days work on the car payed for the months teaching on xp
[07:13] <inetpro> oh and hi Kilos as well :-)
[07:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> lo pro
[07:14] <Kilos> hehe so cheeky
[07:16] <Kilos> inetpro  if i have no reply from the namibia ubuntu team within a week will you germanise the mail for us?
[07:17] <inetpro> uh, why?
[07:17] <Kilos> i looked at the zim ubuntu peeps but their emails are even dead
[07:18] <Kilos> well they maybe like you and dont understand english
[07:18]  * Kilos ducks
[07:18] <gremble> Actually, I think Afrikaans is more widely spread in Namibia than English
[07:20] <Kilos> i didnt think of that. ill wait and see then try again
[07:21] <Kilos> maybe i should join their group first
[07:21] <Kilos> but now back to whatsapp on fone
[07:21] <Kilos> grrr
[07:22] <Kilos> i even have the user guide hehe
[07:25] <Kilos> hi Xethron  
[07:36] <Kilos> hmm... i woke up
[07:36] <Kilos> xperia will never find the playstore without a gmail account
[07:37] <Kilos> i turned it off because i dont need mails here and on fone grrr
[07:42] <gremble> You can turn of emails
[07:42] <gremble> off*
[07:42] <Kilos> great ill look for thaat ty gremble  
[08:00] <charl> good morinng
[08:00] <charl> *morning
[08:00] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:00]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[08:03] <Kilos> hi c ha
[08:03] <Kilos> ai!
[08:03] <Kilos> charl  too
[08:04] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[08:14] <charl> Maaz: danke
[08:14] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[08:14] <mazal> Morning everyone
[08:14] <Kilos> hi mazal  
[08:17] <charl> hi mazal, Kilos 
 i turned it off because i dont need mails here and on fone grrr
 You can turn of emails
[09:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> o_O
[09:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> this is probably the third time you've gone down this road
[09:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> settings/accounts/google account/uncheck gmail
[09:36] <Kilos> ty
[09:39] <charl> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[09:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo :)
[09:39] <gremble> The road less travelled has to be travelled over and over and over and over and ...
[09:40] <Kilos> for sure
[10:03] <arnaudmez> Hello
[10:04] <arnaudmez> Happy New year bros !!
[10:07] <gremble> You're only almost a month late
[10:07] <gremble> Well done
[10:07] <gremble> :P
[10:07] <Kilos> hi arnaudmez  same for you ty
[10:07] <arnaudmez> hi Kilos
[10:07] <arnaudmez> hi gremble
[10:08] <Kilos> you not supposed to be away so long
[10:08] <arnaudmez> French countries celebrate it until they get tired and i'm living in a french country
[10:08] <Kilos> you supposed to be here daily
[10:08] <arnaudmez> So i will keep it until i get bored of this HNY thing
[10:09] <Kilos> ok maybe you are the guy i need
[10:09] <Kilos> where are you again? 
[10:10] <Kilos> im trying to get as amny countries in africa linked so we can grow the ubuntu community in africa
[10:10] <Kilos> as many
[10:11] <arnaudmez> I'm in Congo Brazzaville
[10:11] <arnaudmez> That's interresting Kilos
[10:11] <arnaudmez> Explain the topo
[10:11] <Kilos> thats just what i want
[10:12] <Kilos> well if you look at the ubuntu map. africa is sadly behind other continents
[10:12] <arnaudmez> link ?
[10:12] <Kilos> eish now ive lost that link
[10:13] <Kilos> im looking
[10:13] <Kilos> Maaz  google ubuntu map
[10:13] <Maaz> Kilos: "Maps — Ubuntu Apps Directory" https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/maps/ :: "Ubuntu - OpenStreetMap Wiki" http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ubuntu :: "Open Street Map Installation Tutorial (Ubuntu 12.04) - SlideShare" http://www.slideshare.net/MarcHuang1/osm-installation-en :: "osm-gps-map package : Ubuntu - Launchpad"
[10:13] <Maaz> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/osm-gps-map :: "GMapCatcher, An Offline Google and OpenStreet ... - Ubuntu Vibes" h…
[10:13] <Kilos> ai!
[10:15] <Kilos> gremble  can you see last nights link to slexy.org from me please
[10:15] <Kilos> konversation grays out old stuff
[10:16] <gremble>  http://slexy.org/view/s2uqc4PO0Q 
[10:16] <arnaudmez> Thanks Kilos
[10:16] <arnaudmez> having a look just now
[10:16] <gremble> This one?
[10:16] <Kilos> lemme see ty
[10:17] <Kilos> arnaudmez  http://people.ubuntu.com/~chilicuil/ubuntumembers-map.html
[10:17] <arnaudmez> okay I see better now
[10:18] <arnaudmez> Kilos: what do we need to do for this to get fixed
[10:18] <Kilos> arnaudmez  that slexy link is what i want to send to all the ubuntu groups all over
[10:18] <arnaudmez> at least for the Congo my country
[10:18] <arnaudmez> let me see
[10:18] <Kilos> i need to know if there is an ubuntu community there 
[10:19] <Kilos> who are the admin guys and their contact info or you can be the contact if you like
[10:19] <Kilos> maybe even build an official Loco there
[10:20] <arnaudmez_> put me as a contact please
[10:20] <arnaudmez_> principal Admin and contact
[10:21] <Kilos> right can you mail me all your info to msdomdonner@gmail.com
[10:22] <Kilos> and also help me find other ubuntu contacts in surrounding countries
[10:23] <Kilos> Symmetria  you can help too
[10:25] <Kilos> ai they got worse net than we do
[10:27] <arnaudmez_> Kilos: who ?
[10:27] <Kilos> arnaudmez_  who what?
[10:27] <Kilos> im lost
[10:27] <Kilos> lol
[10:28] <arnaudmez> Kilos: email me atn arnaud.mezenga@syn73.com with details you want me to fill in and I will proceed right now
[10:28] <Kilos> cool ty
[10:31] <Kilos> actually arnaudmez  greate a wiki page for yourself as well
[10:31] <Kilos> create
[10:32] <arnaudmez> okay, wiki page ... please direct me ... what will be the best wiki site to use ?
[10:32] <Kilos> sec
[10:33] <Kilos> here is mine 
[10:33] <Kilos> Good morning to you, I am from South Africa and we were discussing linking up the various African countries the other night.
[10:33] <Kilos> We use irc > freenode > #ubuntu-za and mailing list  ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com to stay in contact, and grow ubuntu in this manner. We have 2 members on the ubuntu-dev team and another python programmer who has a package in the repos. On our irc channel we are also available for online help to any linux users anywhere. We have members on other linux distributions as well, such as, archlinux,  redhat and some others. We also have members in the 
[10:33] <Kilos> Netherlands Belguim the UK and other countries. please feel free to join us and maybe have a contact person on our irc channel. If you look at this map you will see Africa is sadly lagging behind.
[10:33] <Kilos> http://people.ubuntu.com/~chilicuil/ubuntumembers-map.html
[10:33] <Kilos> Lets get together and grow Ubuntu Africa.
[10:33] <Kilos> Hoping to hear from you soon.
[10:33] <Kilos> Miles Sharpe
[10:33] <Kilos> Kilos on IRC
[10:33] <Kilos> ai
[10:33] <Kilos> sorry guys
[10:33] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos#preview
[10:33] <Kilos> got mixed up with left and right clicks
[10:34] <Kilos> you need a launchpad account
[10:36] <Kilos> https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/NewAccount
[10:44] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:45] <arnaudmez> lauchpad account you said
[10:45] <arnaudmez> will proceed this evening with that
[10:45] <arnaudmez> but first I've replied to you
[10:45] <Kilos> yip you need that to create a wiki page
[10:45] <Kilos> cool
[10:45] <arnaudmez> and i will keep those links 
[10:46] <Kilos> than you
[10:46] <Kilos> thank you too
[10:46] <Kilos> whew typing getting worse
[10:46] <arnaudmez> no problemo
[10:49] <Kilos> im trying to get contact info for somaunn as well so if you know him chase him here please
[10:50] <Kilos> oh sorry arnaudmez  did you need help with something?
[10:50] <arnaudmez> Somaunn+arnaudmez=the same person
[10:51] <Kilos> oh my goodness thats lekker
[10:53] <Kilos> get all your ubuntu peeps to get launchpad accounts
[10:53] <Kilos> actually all your linux users is good too
[10:56] <mazal> Kan die dag nie maar klaarkom nie
[10:56] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:56] <mazal> Erger as 'n Maandag vandag
[10:57] <Kilos> dit begin nou eers interesant word man
[10:57] <mazal> Ek begin nou daai gaaivol punt bereik
[10:58] <Kilos> ai!
[10:58] <Kilos> drink koffie
[10:58] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee on
[10:58]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[10:58] <mazal> Virusse en id10t's heel dag lank
[10:59] <Kilos> Maaz  with rusks
[10:59] <Maaz> There is a packet of Ouma's in the cupboard Kilos help yourself
[10:59] <Kilos> you have to educate you internet users better
[10:59] <mazal> En stupid Win
[10:59] <arnaudmez> ty Kilos
[11:00] <Kilos> cool arnaudmez  
[11:02] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[11:02] <arnaudmez> mazal: what I did, install VMware > Put windows there
[11:03] <Kilos> Maaz  ty
[11:03] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[11:03] <arnaudmez> My PC runs Fed21 full time
[11:03] <mazal> I can't arnaudmez
[11:03] <arnaudmez> mazal: why 
[11:03] <mazal> Is not a personal choice , it's forced unto us as it's the work's OS of choice
[11:03] <mazal> So we are stuck with the junk
[11:04] <arnaudmez> mazal: One thing i've learned for years now!!! Never put your life into work stuffs (laptops, phones, etc.)
[11:04] <arnaudmez> there is always a choice to make
[11:04] <mazal> Unfortunately this one is not ours to make
[11:05] <arnaudmez> ask them for you to use you laptop (personal) just setup a VM there ... 
[11:05] <mazal> No you don't understand , is not just me , we are managing a network of over 300 pc's
[11:05] <arnaudmez> tell them, they will save money doing that and if they want you will provide them with that full system image the day you the fight against them .... :D
[11:05] <mazal> We are the maintainers , hence why we are the once stuck with all the issues
[11:05] <Kilos> arnaudmez  they have many pcs to maintain , and all of them have to be on win
[11:06] <Kilos> ah im slow again
[11:06] <arnaudmez> Kilos, mazal: that's an electronic nightmare
[11:06] <Kilos> yeah
[11:06] <mazal> Indeed
[11:07] <Kilos> you also cannot tell a government what to do, they have to learn the hard way
[11:07] <mazal> And then once everything falls apart they blame someone else
[11:07] <mazal> Seker oom Jan se skuld
[11:08] <Kilos> lol
[11:08] <mazal> Dis hy wat al die virusse saam hom hier aangebring het !!
[11:09] <mazal> But on a non-work related matter. Virtual OS is something I must still learn someday
[11:10] <mazal> I don't need it , but just for my own knowledge. Have never tried a virtual OS inside another one
[11:13] <Kilos> its actuallt quite lekker
[11:13] <Kilos> actually
[11:13] <Kilos> just slower
[11:13] <arnaudmez> mazal: this is for you https://www.virtualbox.org/
[11:13] <arnaudmez> mazal: this one too www.vmware.com
[11:14] <Kilos> there is a faster one than virtualbox
[11:14] <arnaudmez> I'm working as a support team member and i'm doing config of POS's throught my Vmachine and it's working just like a dream
[11:19] <mazal> I'll ask you again one day when I get the time to learn it :)
[11:21] <Kilos> hehe
[11:21] <Kilos> i need to ask for what it is called as well
[11:31] <arnaudmez> faster VM manager than vbox ?
[11:31] <Kilos> yeah
[11:32] <Kilos> inetpro  is using it and ThatGraemeGuy  i think
[11:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> eh
[11:32] <Kilos> the fast virtual machine ThatGraemeGuy  
[11:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> uuuuuuhhhhh
[11:33]  * ThatGraemeGuy confused
[11:33] <arnaudmez> should be http://virt-manager.org/ if i'm not wrong ... someone to correct me 
[11:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh for kvm stuffs
[11:34] <Kilos> faster than virtualbox
[11:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> we use proxmox
[11:34] <Kilos> ya thats it
[11:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> but virt-manager is probably the same deal
[11:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> they are all just tools for managing VMs based on KVM
[11:35] <Kilos> ty
[11:35] <arnaudmez> proxmox ??? never eared about
[11:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> KVM is what does the real work and thats the same whether you are using proxmox, virt-manager, virsh or any of a few dozen others
[11:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> https://www.proxmox.com/proxmox-ve
[11:41] <charl> i hear good things of ovirt
[11:41] <charl> i have never been a big fan of proxmox
[11:42] <arnaudmez> okay guys i got it
[11:42] <arnaudmez> proxmox is a paravirt solution
[11:42] <charl> virtualbox isn't bad for desktop virtualisation though even though it's not entirely open source
[11:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> i honestly haven't used a significant variety of the KVM management tools to have any sort of meaningful opinion
[11:42] <charl> vmware is faster but vmware is entirely proprietary
[11:42] <arnaudmez> it's actually depends on what you want to achieve
[11:43] <charl> virtualbox is the default vagrant provider as well but there is a vagrant kvm provider too
[11:43] <arnaudmez> charl: http://virt-manager.org/ is also a good thing it's integrate directly with KVM and do the Job
[11:44] <arnaudmez> every person passing the RHCSA or RHCE cursus need to understand KVM by the use of virt-manager
[11:44] <charl> problem is most images on the vagrant cloud are only "compiled" for virtualbox
[11:44] <charl> arnaudmez: i know of it, i have used it back in 07/08
[11:44] <charl> one of the first versions of that i believe, can't recall
[11:45] <charl> it was the first kvm gui tool afaik
[11:46] <charl> i run here a combination of virtualbox and vmware but not happy with either
[11:46] <charl> but those are the best supported so if you want to get things done without too much hassle ...
[11:46] <charl> on the server i would definitely go for either xen source or for kvm
[11:48] <arnaudmez> yeah, i understand that 
[11:48] <arnaudmez> that why i said "peoples who are passing RH cursus..."
[11:49] <charl> ganeti used to be really cool
[11:49] <arnaudmez> I'm now using vmware only and find it even better, still I need to understand their internal network principle
[11:49] <charl> not sure if anyone still use that
[11:50] <charl> vmware networking ... heh heh heh
[11:50] <charl> i try to just run everything in bridge mode
[11:50] <mazal> maaz koffie on
[11:50] <Maaz> mazal: Huh?
[11:50] <mazal> maaz kettle on
[11:50] <Maaz> mazal: Excuse me?
[11:50] <mazal> Ag nee man
[11:50] <charl> coffee on mazal 
[11:50] <mazal> Ah
[11:51] <mazal> maaz koffie
[11:51] <Maaz> Vra in engels man mazal
[11:51] <mazal> maaz coffee on
[11:51]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[11:51] <mazal> yay !!!!
[11:51] <charl> give Maaz a kick in the bottom bucket
[11:51] <mazal> Hi charl
[11:51] <charl> Maaz: coffee please
[11:51] <Maaz> charl: Righto
[11:51] <charl> hi mazal :)
[11:51] <mazal> Shees I am struggling to keep my eyes open
[11:51] <mazal> All of sudden the moeg attacks me
[11:52] <charl> nono it's friday
[11:52] <charl> first it's beer o clock and then it's sleep time later
[11:53] <mazal> Dunno what's going on these days , have zero energy :P
[11:54] <mazal> maaz hurry up dude
[11:54] <Maaz> mazal: *blink*
[11:55] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for mazal and charl!
[11:55] <mazal> maaz dankie tog
[11:55] <Maaz> mazal: Sorry...
[11:56] <mazal> maaz we are going to have to work on our communication
[11:56] <Maaz> mazal: I already know stuff about we
[11:56] <mazal> oh boy
[11:56] <Kilos> lol
[11:58] <charl> Maaz: danke
[11:58] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[11:59] <charl> Maaz is all like "ich verstehe dein denglish nicht"
[12:00] <charl> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUua8CcWLdg
[12:01] <mazal> My speakers don't work :(
[12:02] <mazal> Well , they work , but so soft I can't here anything really
[12:13] <charl> bah
[12:27] <Kilos> hi Private_User  
[12:34] <Private_User> hi Kilos
[12:35] <Private_User> hmm...
[12:35] <Private_User> Kilos: no longer part of ##ubuntu-za-social?
[12:35] <Kilos> oh my
[12:35] <Kilos> i forgot to add it when i had to install again
[12:39] <Private_User> lol
[12:39] <charl> so it turns out there are a couple of things that i don't understand
[12:39] <Private_User> yeah we always forget the minor stuff after a reinstall
[12:39] <charl> firstly, the obvious thing to do with a new version of *buntu is to try it in virtualbox
[12:39] <charl> downloaded kubuntu vivid, open it in virtualbox, it's a display mess
[12:40] <charl> downloaded lubuntu vivid, open it in virtualbox, display is also a mess
[12:40] <charl> these are the small things that mean you either make it or you don't
[12:40] <charl> no wonder so few people run ubuntu on a desktop
[12:40] <charl> linux mint, on the other side, works perfectly (of course)
[12:41] <charl> why, because mint is not made by The Evil Linux Enpire (TM)
[12:43] <mazal> I'm off. Have a nice weekend everyone. Be safe and God bless
[12:43] <Kilos> you too lad
[12:43] <Kilos> behave
[12:43] <Kilos> oi
[12:45] <charl> lubuntu and kubuntu both fail but guess what... kylin works perfectly
[12:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> debian ftw
[12:46]  * ThatGraemeGuy hides
[12:46] <charl> indeed ThatGraemeGuy 
[12:46] <charl> apparently we should just sell ourselves over to the chinese because we are now unable to produce quality products in the west
[12:46] <arnaudmez> charl: not bad at least something worx
[12:47] <charl> the default wallpaper choice is also much better in kylin
[12:47] <arnaudmez> someone can advise here ? i'm looking for a screen recorder software
[12:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> arnaudmez: http://www.maartenbaert.be/simplescreenrecorder/
[12:48] <arnaudmez> ty ThatGraemeGuy
[12:48] <charl> it is also useless to run unity inside vmware due to the graphical effects
[12:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> np
[12:49] <charl> you would think somebody would have been intelligent enough to detect the lack of gpu and simply turn all that crap off automatically
[12:49] <charl> ah will you look at that, ubuntu vivid gnome 3 works perfectly
[12:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> its' open source, get coding
[12:50] <charl> there we go, gnome 3 ftw
[12:50] <charl> forget about unity and kubuntu
[12:50] <charl> and lubuntu for that matter
[12:50] <charl> ThatGraemeGuy: i have never worked on a linux desktop in my life
[12:50] <charl> programmed i mean
[12:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> then why are you cluttering up our channel with your ranting if you aren't willing to be part of the solution? :)
[12:51] <Kilos> rofl
[12:52] <Private_User> lol
[12:52] <charl> ThatGraemeGuy: because i am playing the average user, and the average user is not a programmer :)
[12:52] <charl> so that's a very simple answer
[12:52] <charl> if you are going to tell the average user "go fix the problem yourself" you will very fast have no users left
[12:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> statistically the average user is probably using windows 7 actually
[12:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> and utterly unaware of everything you ranted about
[12:55] <charl> well then it's time to change that...
[12:55] <charl> but change starts by getting the basics right
[12:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes yes
[12:55] <charl> i should rephrase "the average linux user" not the average user, valid point though
[12:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> you do realise you are not the first one to go down this road? :)
[12:55] <charl> true, true
[12:56] <charl> but you see, my point is basically this: i have friends/colleagues/other people i know
[12:56] <charl> they (mostly) use windows
[12:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> in my mind one of the greatest challenges in the world of open source is the ease with which people go off to reinvent the wheel
[12:56] <charl> i'm the *only* real linux desktop user in the office
[12:56] <charl> i tell them to go try it, this is their experience, and they move back to windows
[12:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> there was a time you used KDE or GNOME, or a light window manager like (flux|open)box, or whatnot
[12:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> the fragmentation is getting worse, not better
[12:57] <charl> very true that
[12:57] <charl> for example people ask me "which desktop should i try" and i honestly don't know what to answer
[12:58] <Kilos> ai!
[12:58] <charl> some people like unity, some people like gnome, some people like kde, some people like mate, cinnamon, lxde, xfce, i3, enlightenment etc etc
[12:58] <charl> so what do you end up recommending *shrug*
[12:58] <Kilos> point them to a lts thats stable already
[13:04] <Kilos> new peeps should never go to a new release unless they know where to go for help
[13:07] <charl> also true Kilos 
[13:32] <Kilos> hi Guest7907  
[13:32] <Kilos> wassup mage
[13:32] <Guest7907> hi Kilos it is magespawn
[13:32] <Kilos> whats broken
[13:32] <Guest7907> nickserv is telling magespawn is already in use
[13:32] <Guest7907> hold a sec
[13:33] <Guest7907> brb
[13:34] <Kilos> wb magespawn  
[13:34] <magespawn> ty
[13:34] <magespawn> not sure what happened ther
[13:34] <magespawn> there
[13:34] <Kilos> lol
[13:35] <Kilos> help is actually a good nick for noobs with probs
[14:07] <arnaudmez_> camstudio=crap > recordmydesktop=good
[14:09] <charl> hi magespawn 
[14:11] <magespawn> hi charl
[15:12] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:14] <Kilos> early storm decided my pc needs a rest
[16:09] <Kilos> hi Tonberry_  
[16:09] <Tonberry_> hi
[16:42] <magespawn> good evening
[16:44] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[16:49] <Squirm> Greetings
[16:49] <magespawn> hi Squirm 
[16:50] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[16:50] <gremble> magespawn: next time nickserv says that your nick is in use, just use the ghost command: nickserve ghost magespawn password123
[16:51] <Squirm> yep
[16:51] <magespawn> ahh yes i forgot the nickserve part
[16:51] <gremble> oh it is /msg nickserve :P
[16:52] <gremble> that is important, otherwise you would be sharing your password with us
[16:52] <magespawn> i was using: nick ghost 
[16:52] <gremble> (I've done that before)
[16:54] <magespawn> me too
[16:54] <magespawn> followed very quickly by a password reset
[17:00] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:01] <Kilos> Maaz  watch them
[17:01] <Maaz> OK Kilos I'll keep an eye on them for you
[17:03] <gremble> I forgot how annoying join/part messages are
[17:09] <captine> eve all.  where does one get all the details of what maaz will do or say?
[17:09] <captine> seems he is pretty intelligent :)
[17:09] <captine> or she....
[17:11] <gremble> I don't think a python script generally identifies with a gender. You can send him a private message with help perhaps to get some information
[17:12] <Squirm> Maaz: help
[17:12] <Maaz> Squirm: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[17:12] <Maaz> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.
[17:12] <Squirm> captine: like that :)
[17:12] <Squirm> Maaz: help with games
[17:12] <Maaz> Squirm: I use the following features for games: duel and werewolf
[17:12] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[17:12] <Squirm> Maaz: duel
[17:12] <Maaz> Squirm: What?
[17:12] <Squirm> Maaz: help with duel
[17:12] <Maaz> Squirm: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features.
[17:12] <magespawn> and if you use a private message then you can practice away
[17:13] <Squirm> Maaz: how do I use duek
[17:13] <Maaz> Squirm: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features.
[17:13] <captine> cool.  thanks
[17:13] <Squirm> Maaz: how do I use duel
[17:13] <Maaz> Squirm: Duel at dawn, between channel members. You can use it like this:
[17:13] <Maaz>   draw [my <weapon>]
[17:13] <Maaz>   bam|pew|bang|kapow|pewpew|holyhandgrenadeofantioch
[17:13] <Maaz>   I challenge <user> to a duel [over <something>]
[17:13] <Maaz>   I demand satisfaction from <user> [over <something>]
[17:13] <Maaz>   I throw the gauntlet down at <user>'s feet [over <something>]
[17:13] <Squirm> Maaz: challenge magespawn to a duel over freedom of text
[17:13] <Maaz> magespawn: The gauntlet has been thrown at your feet. Do you accept?
[17:14] <Maaz> magespawn appears to have fled the country during the night
[17:15] <Squirm> :/
[17:15] <captine> funny
[17:21] <superfly> Logged an ADSL fault via my ISP
[17:24] <magespawn> lol
[17:24] <magespawn> any luck superfly?
[17:24] <superfly> magespawn: did it when I got home an hour ago, will have to see how long it takes
[17:25] <superfly> *sigh* I can't seem to browse any sites via my phone
[17:26] <superfly> only things like IRC and Telegram work
[17:26] <superfly> I'm on HSDPA for crying out loud!
[17:28] <Kilos> ai!
[17:29] <Squirm> superfly: who's your ISP?
[17:31] <superfly> Squirm: Axxess
[17:31] <superfly> Squirm: was a Telkom fault, but they haven't fixed it properly yet, so I asked my ISP to prod them along
[17:31] <Squirm> :/
[17:31] <Squirm> Good thinking
[17:31] <superfly> In my opinion, Axxess is by far the best out there.
[17:32] <Squirm> They seem to be doing well, don't know many people using them
[17:32] <Squirm> I'm also pretty impressed with Afrihost though
[17:33] <superfly> I used to use Afrihost, but when I moved and my ADSL moved, they couldn't get 2 and 2 together, so I dropped them and switched to Axxess, best decision I ever made (second only to marrying my wife ;-) )
[17:36] <Kilos> lol
[17:37] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:37] <Kilos> Maaz  announce Don't forget tuesday nights monthly meeting guys
[17:38] <Kilos> ai!
[17:38] <Kilos> Maaz  hey
[17:38] <Maaz> Announcement from Kilos! Don't forget tuesday nights monthly meeting guys
[17:38]  * Maaz waves to Kilos
[17:38] <Kilos> wow that took long
[17:39] <Kilos> Maaz  wake up
[17:39] <superfly> Tuesday is also the day when DebConf 16 is decided
[17:40] <Squirm> superfly: that's cool, Axxess has some good deals too
[17:40] <Squirm> Can't afford ADSL at the moment
[17:40] <Squirm> :/
[17:40] <Kilos> ai!
[17:41] <Kilos> tough in africa
[17:41] <superfly> Squirm: it's one of those non-negotiables in our house
[17:42] <Squirm> superfly: Yeah... I took out a Telkom Mobile contract, uncapped data until the end of March, but I might need to save up for their 60Gb+60Gb package
[17:42] <Squirm> and I get 2+2 Afrihost bundle from work(for work though, kind of, don't really need it for work at the moment)
[17:44] <gremble> Why'd you kill the bot, Kilos?
[17:44] <Squirm> Currently download from my old S3 as a WiFi hotspot, averaging I'd say... 500KB/s
[17:44] <Kilos> sorry
[17:44] <Kilos> maahi
[17:45] <Kilos> ai!
[17:45] <Squirm> who's maahi?
[17:45] <Kilos> cocooncrash_  please help. maaz is dead
[17:45] <Kilos> that was maa tab hi
[17:45] <Kilos> lol
[17:45] <Kilos> Maaz  wb
[17:45] <Maaz> Thank you so much Kilos my good good friend
[17:45] <Squirm> oh, look who it is
[17:45] <Kilos> yay
[17:45] <Squirm> Maaz: welcom
[17:45] <Maaz> Squirm: Huh?
[17:46] <Squirm> Maaz: huh yourself
[17:46] <Maaz> Squirm: Sorry...
[17:46] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:46] <Kilos> i think its the laughs here that keep me going
[17:46] <Squirm> Kilos: what do you mean?
[17:47] <Kilos> one needs a good laugh daily
[17:47] <Squirm> :)
[17:47] <Kilos> if i sat here all day with a long face i'd expire im sure
[17:49] <Kilos> does anyone here speal french?
[17:49] <Kilos> apart from gitem
[17:49] <Kilos> i dont even know how to spell that
[17:49] <Squirm> does 'speal' mean speak in french?
[17:49] <Kilos> oh my
[17:49] <Kilos> rofl
[17:49] <Kilos> hee hee
[17:49] <gremble> I sometimes pretend to to flirt with girls
[17:49] <gremble> Does that count?
[17:49] <Kilos> sorry
[17:50] <Squirm> Kilos: I know :)
[17:50] <Squirm> gremble: haha
[17:50] <Kilos> no gremble  i want someone to help the congo guys get a loco going
[17:51] <Kilos> stop with the jokes for a while now, tummy sore already
[17:52] <gremble> Probably because you've been slacking on your 130 daily push-ups and crunches
[17:52] <Kilos> sjoe
[17:53] <gremble> Haha Don't "shoe" me. :P My grandfather is 84 and weightlifts 3 times a week haha
[17:53] <Kilos> those days are long gone
[17:53] <Kilos> head dont allow much physical stuff
[17:53] <gremble> Aww
[17:53] <Kilos> ya painful. i used to be very active
[17:54] <Kilos> used to be able to take a fair sized bull by the horns and twist till he dropped
[17:55] <Kilos> now i battle with a 20kg lamb
[17:55] <Kilos> hehe
[17:55] <Kilos> but i got internet
[17:55] <gremble> You should just remind the lamb that it would be delicious on a spit
[17:55]  * gremble makes a note that he should get one for his birthday this year
[17:55] <Kilos> lol shame i think the thing has brain damage
[17:56] <Kilos> but when it sees me it starts clapping its jaws together in anticipation of all the mulberry leaves its going to get
[17:56] <Kilos> very funny little thing
[17:58] <Kilos> they actually expensive to buy nowadays. not many peeps can afford lamb for a spit anymore
[17:58] <gremble> I probably can't either
[17:58] <gremble> but it would be nice to see if I can organise something
[17:58] <gremble> haha
[17:59] <Kilos> i think its around 80 bucks a kg
[17:59] <gremble> I'll have to get a really tiny one then
[17:59] <gremble> D:
[18:00] <Kilos> and a nice size for spit is 15 to 20 kg
[18:00] <gremble> You're dashing all my hopes and dreams
[18:00] <Kilos> meat prices have gone mad
[18:00] <Kilos> sorry
[18:00] <Kilos> i can post you some lamb droppings free
[18:01] <Kilos> even some lambs wool
[18:01] <gremble> I've always wanted poop
[18:02] <Kilos> lol good for the garden
[18:02] <Kilos> we got tons
[18:02] <gremble> I prefer the personal touch to gardening
[18:02] <gremble> So I generally prefer to poop in my own garden
[18:02] <Kilos> lol
[18:04] <Kilos> oh my someone was here today using unity and wanted to upgrade
[18:05] <Kilos> i forgot to tell him to use the built in backup tool
[18:05] <Kilos> deja-dup
[18:05] <Kilos> makes great backups
[18:07] <Kilos> wb magespawn  
[18:08] <magespawn> ty Kilos
[18:09] <Kilos> Private_User  wb
[18:10] <Private_User> thank you Kilos
[18:10] <magespawn> looks like the net is not playing the game tonight
[18:10] <Kilos> you must try sort your client to cloak before login in here
[18:10] <Private_User> my connection seems to be crap today
[18:10] <Private_User> on and off
[18:10] <Private_User> off and on
[18:11] <Kilos> what client are you using
[18:11] <Kilos> xchat?
[18:11] <Private_User> Pidgin
[18:11] <Private_User> but I think its my connectivity
[18:11] <Kilos> sjoe i havent done that for years
[18:11] <Kilos> nono
[18:11] <Private_User> not sure if its the weather
[18:11] <Kilos> watch
[18:11] <Kilos> -> Private_User (~Private_U@197.109.74.135) has joined this channel.
[18:11] <Kilos> [23/01/2015 20:08] <-- Private_User (~Private_U@197.109.74.135) has left this server (Changing host).
[18:11] <Kilos> [23/01/2015 20:08] --> Private_User (~Private_U@unaffiliated/private-user/x-9143494) has joined this channel.
[18:12] <Kilos> see you dont login cloaked
[18:12] <Private_User> or because I am sitting in my parent out building and working
[18:12] <Kilos> in pidgin is there 2 places to enter your password
[18:12] <Private_User> Itested last weekend and it was fine
[18:12] <Private_User> let me check
[18:12] <Kilos> one at server , i forget the other one
[18:13] <Private_User> I only see on in the settings
[18:13] <Kilos> ai!
[18:14] <Kilos> we can ask the peeps on freenode
[18:14] <Private_User> but I think its my connection
[18:14] <Kilos>  do /j #freenode
[18:14] <Private_User> cause you never saw that before I assume since you only mention today?
[18:14] <Kilos> maybe ok leave it now but i think thats how you always login
[18:14] <Kilos> i just never thought about it
[18:15] <Private_User> ok lets see how it goes if it continues I will go back into the house and check
[18:15] <Kilos> not serious just uses 3 lines instead of one and shows your ip the first time
[18:16] <Private_User> trying to make this my office so this year I can start making some money
[18:16] <Kilos> good
[18:16] <Private_User> ok thanks for mentioning Kilos
[18:16] <Kilos> np
[18:16] <Private_User> lets monitor it and see how it goes
[18:16] <Kilos> will do
[18:16] <Private_User> but the connectivity is crap at the moment
[18:17] <magespawn> ]funny how it seems to go through stages like that
[18:17] <Kilos> the peeps at #freenode are very helpful and im sure they have pidgin users there too
[18:18] <Private_User> thanks Kilos
[18:18] <Kilos> i think its if freenode ses your password before open channels it cloaks you
[18:18] <Private_User> I will give them a shout when this connection gets better if not then I will have to go into the house and try again
[18:18] <Kilos> sees
[18:19] <inetpro> gremble, magespawn: it's nickserv not nickserve
[18:19] <inetpro> good evening
[18:19] <Kilos> ill go with you to freenode 
[18:19] <Kilos> hi thewre inetpro  
[18:19] <Kilos> oh i forgot
[18:19] <Kilos> im not deaf or blind, just ignoring you
[18:20]  * Kilos hides
[18:20] <inetpro> ai!
[18:20] <Private_User> nah I am convinced its my connectivity trying other stuff that is normally quick and still very delayed
[18:20] <Kilos> jou beurt is jou beurt
[18:21] <Kilos> np Private_User  we can check it out
[18:21]  * inetpro hides in the corner again
[18:21] <Kilos> no rush
[18:21] <Kilos> inetpro  wb my friend
[18:21] <inetpro> ty Kilos
[18:23] <Kilos> the 2 passwords are nickserv password and server password
[18:29] <magespawn> and there we go again
[18:30] <Kilos> lol
[18:41] <magespawn> i am off for tonight, good night all
[18:41] <Kilos> sjoe so fast
[18:43] <inetpro> good night mage[tab]
[18:45] <Kilos> inetpro  dont even try catch up tonight. peeps chatted lots today
[18:45] <inetpro> way too much, I see
[18:45]  * inetpro too tired to even try
[18:45] <Kilos> but some was interesting
[18:45] <inetpro> like?
[18:46] <Kilos> got congo to belinked with us so we can maybe get them to form thier own loco they have 20 members
[18:46] <Kilos> but they nearly all speak french
[18:47] <Kilos> only arnaud speaks english
[18:47] <Kilos> arnaud=somaunn
[18:47] <inetpro> that's nice
[18:47] <Kilos> ill try get more
[18:47] <inetpro> they applying for memberships?
[18:48] <Kilos> ive got them to first get accounts at launchpad
[18:48] <Kilos> might take a while
[18:48] <inetpro> mooi!
[18:49] <superfly> hi inetpro
[18:49] <Kilos> iirc most are linux noobs
[18:49] <inetpro> hello superfly
[18:51] <inetpro> superfly: you back online again?
[18:51] <superfly> nope
[18:51] <superfly> using my phone as a wifi hotspot
[18:52] <captine> Kilos, you've been busy
[18:52] <Kilos> i try captine  
[18:53] <Kilos> i was lucky with the congo because arnaud first came here for help
[18:54] <Kilos> the others are not as easy to even get mail replies from
[18:54]  * inetpro wonders whether there's a map with launchpad members?
[18:55] <Kilos> google is your friend
[18:55] <Kilos> hehe
[19:01] <inetpro> tomorrow is another day... good night
[19:01] <Kilos> night inetpro  
[19:01] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:20] <captine> night
[19:20] <Kilos> night captine  
[19:20] <Kilos> lekker slaap
[19:20] <captine> lol.  was saying night to inetpro
[19:20] <Kilos> haha
[19:20] <captine> waiting for my some to wake for his 10pm bottle, then to bed i go
[19:21] <Kilos> ai!
[19:21] <Kilos> kids are hard work
[19:31] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight