[00:00] <fiatjaf> it's very strange. they all fail.
[00:00] <k1l> NForystek: this is not a chat channel. please ask a specific technical support question or use the #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat
[00:00] <NForystek> I go read monodevelop.com right now to get it installed and there's no icon in the packages, it's a bunch of lines that ends with go follow next how to install it, with no lead to instructions
[00:01] <NForystek> k
[00:01] <Jordan_U> jb0nd38372: I'm pretty sure that all of the "safe" methods of increasing IO access are already in use by default.
[00:02] <fiatjaf> I can ping, but not traceroute
[00:03] <Jordan_U> jbernal0019: And in case there was any confusion, I never said that you can't use software RAID0 to increase your IO performance (though I will say that any RAID0 increases your chances of irrecoverable data loss in the event of hardware problems, so you'll have to decide if you consider it "safe").
[00:08] <fiatjaf> ok, here's a better description of my problem accessing archive.ubuntu.com: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9826836/ (just read this paste and you'll understand it all)
[00:08] <fiatjaf> thank you for the help.
[00:16] <NateThug> hi i have windows 7 and i dual booted windows 7 and ubuntu linux. I chose ubuntu in the purple grub or grub 2 window i cant remember and it worked perfectly. I then chose windows 7 and it says windows failed to boot. I chose the recovery thing and it took me to gateway recovery management but then says i dont have enough space to restore my pc please help im desperate
[00:16] <NateThug> sorry that its long
[00:18] <daftykins> !bootrepair | NateThug
[00:19] <NateThug> i tried using boot repair and i chose like recommened settings and still the same problem
[00:20] <NateThug> any help?
[00:20] <NateThug> from anybody?
[00:21] <arctic> NateThug there's one solution - remove win7 permanently :)
[00:23] <peppe991> salve!
[00:23] <peppe991> film horror
[00:24] <k1l> !it | peppe991
[00:27] <fnordism> it's friday the 23th - fnord!
[00:42] <blitz> I have a question about curl and openssl in ubuntu 12.04 - is this the best place to ask? curl -1 -vvvv shows that curl sometimes uses SSLv3 instead of TLS, apparently at random
[00:43] <blitz> curl -1 with openssl version 0.9.8za on my mac never uses SSLv3
[00:44] <blitz> but version 1.0.1f seems to
[00:44] <blitz> on ubuntu
[00:45] <Ryan__> Will Ubuntu 14.10 support end in 9 months from now?
[00:45] <Ryan__> Or will end of support for it be years away?
[00:45] <daftykins> !14.10
[00:45] <k1l> Ryan__: it ends 9 month after it was released
[00:46] <daftykins> no, 9 months from October
[00:46] <Ryan__> Why is it only 9 months?
[00:46] <daftykins> because it's not an LTS release.
[00:46] <daftykins> get 14.04.1 to stay supported until 2019.
[00:46] <Ryan__> I see, should I use 14.04 then to avoid having to upgrade?
[00:46] <Ryan__> Okay, will do
[00:46] <daftykins> this is all detailed on the website, Ryan__
[00:46] <Ryan__> daftykins: I saw that on the site but wasn't sure if I was believing it correctly
[00:47] <k1l> Ryan__: if you install 14.10 you will need to upgrade all 6 months  to until you are at 16.04.
[00:47] <Ryan__> every 6 months you mean?
[00:48] <k1l> every 6 months there is a new ubuntu version. they got 9 months support but after the 9 months are gone you already spoiled 3 months from the next release. so its only 6 months left, etc.... tl;dr: upgrade all 6 months when you dont stick to the LTS
[00:49] <Ryan__> Ah I see, k ty
[00:52] <daftykins> it's true that the correct english is 'upgrade every 6 months' though ;)
[00:52]  * k1l will try to keep that in mind :)
[00:55] <blitz> how do I upgrade openssl 1.0.1f to openssl 1.0.1g+ in ubuntu 12.04?
[00:55] <blitz> is my only option to build from source?
[00:56] <shuman> or wait.. ;)
[00:56] <k1l> blitz: why you want to do that?
[00:56] <blitz> we're way past g, and this is causing things to fail so that's not an option
[00:57] <blitz> because there's apparently a bug in 1.0.1f that causes TLS renegotiation to failover to SSLv3
[00:57] <k1l> did you file a bug?
[00:57] <blitz> it's filed
[00:57] <blitz> I'm talking to openssl people now brb
[00:58] <daftykins> !info openssl precise
[00:58] <daftykins> hmm no letter in that output
[01:00] <k1l> blitz: i am talking about a ubuntu bug on launchpad.net against the openssl package in ubuntu. so if there is a known patch the maintainer could upgrade the package
[01:03] <blitz> k1l confirming with openssl people, I'll get back to you
[01:19] <kulelu88> How do I install pip (Python) without using apt-get install?
[01:20] <Stanley00> kulelu88: you can use pip command too, but why?
[01:21] <kulelu88> Stanley00: I built python 2.7.9 onto my machine and I'd like to build pip too. I am worried that using the apt-get install version won't be compatible with 2.7.9
[01:21] <Stanley00> kulelu88: what's your ubuntu version?
[01:21] <kulelu88> 14.04 (Docker image)
[01:22] <Stanley00> !info python trusty
[01:24] <Stanley00> kulelu88: okay, if you had built python, I think you should better build pip too... but are there many difference between 2.7.9 and 2.7.5?
[01:24] <kulelu88> Stanley00: The ubuntu image of Docker didn't come with Python, so I don't think I broke any system stuff
[01:25] <mrec> does anyone know how to enable php5 with apache on ubuntu? This nasty issue has been there for more than 10 years that the default installation does not work and things need to be reconfigured
[01:25] <kulelu88> !info php5
[01:26] <daftykins> a2enmod php ?
[01:27] <mrec> it's enabled
[01:27] <Stanley00> kulelu88: hmm... my point here is if you don't need anything special in python 2.7.9, install it from repos is always better.
[01:27] <daftykins> why did you ask how to enable it then? :)
[01:27] <mrec> I only need it for some small things
[01:27] <mrec> heh because it does not work as usual
[01:27] <NegativeFlare> sudo a2enmod php5
[01:27] <NegativeFlare> I think o_o
[01:27] <mrec> it shows the php source in the browser :-)
[01:27] <mrec> this is really lame that issue has been there for more than 10 years now
[01:28] <kulelu88> Stanley00: What about all the possible security issues between 2.7.6 and 2.7.9 ?
[01:29] <Stanley00> kulelu88: I think bugs will be backport to 2.7.5, that's why we have 2.7.5-ubuntu3 there ;)
[01:29] <kulelu88> Stanley00: Is that how it works? bugs are backported?
[01:29] <Stanley00> kulelu88: AFAIK, yes.
[01:30] <kulelu88> I never knew this :-/
[01:30] <kulelu88> It got me wondering how OSes stay safe if there are bugs but they work on the old versions
[01:31] <S_P_D> where can i find the +mac version of ubuntu with unity 8
[01:33] <Stanley00> kulelu88: so, now you can happily install python 2.7.5 and stay safe until 2019? (as long as you keep up-to-date) :P
[01:33] <l3x1> hi all, do you use aws? i got stuck in registering!!! need your help?
[01:33] <kulelu88> 2019? Heh ? I think by then we will have 2.8.1 :D
[01:33] <kulelu88> l3x1: Stuck how?
[01:34] <Stanley00> S_P_D: maybe in daily live image of ubuntu?
[01:35] <Stanley00> kulelu88: I don't know, but 14.04 will be supported until 2019, so you can have all security update until then :3
[01:35] <l3x1> but they block my acc and require me fax them billing information
[01:35] <NegativeFlare> !offtopic | l3x1
[01:35] <kulelu88> oh Stanley00 , i thought u were referring to end-of-life of python :D
[01:35] <k1l> l3x1: well, talk to the aws support then. we cant help you there.
[01:36] <mauriss> hello
[01:36] <S_P_D> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/current/ doesn't have the +mac version
[01:37] <S_P_D> and i'm positive that's the right directory http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/unity-8-daily-build-images-go-live
[01:38] <daftykins> has 8 even been released 0o
[01:38] <Jordan_U> S_P_D: There is no need for a +mac image any more.
[01:38] <daftykins> if not, it's off topic here
[01:39] <S_P_D> why?
[01:39] <daftykins> because only released software is on topic in here
[01:39] <Jordan_U> S_P_D: A better work around for Apple's broken firmware was found that can be used for the primary images. (The work around for the +mac images was to remove UEFI support from the image).
[01:39] <Stanley00> S_P_D: for unity 8, I think you should ask in #ubuntu+1 maybe :3
[01:40] <S_P_D> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacPro The regular 64-bit Ubuntu CDs have trouble booting on older Intel Macs, such as MacPro1,1, due to EFI incompatibilities. You must download a special +mac CD of Ubuntu to work-around this problem
[01:40] <kulelu88> Try an older ubuntu version maybe? S_P_D
[01:41] <daftykins> old mac pro, as in PowerPC?
[01:41] <S_P_D> i guess i could just use the i386 dvd. Thanks anything! and no, it's intel. efi32
[01:42] <kulelu88> dont mac users consider OSX better? *dont flame me for asking*
[01:42] <S_P_D> !offtopic
[01:42] <daftykins> kulelu88: not on topic.
[01:43] <kulelu88> I guess not ...
[02:17] <szef> hi
[02:18] <daftykins> hi
[02:36] <haijohn> hello
[02:36] <OERIAS> hey haijohn
[02:39] <qhcar76> hi
[02:39] <The_Tick> Is there a way to make it so that the contents of / will not list when you ls -al / ?
[02:41] <lathiat> The_Tick: You can remove the read permission from a directory (o-r) and it will stop a directory being listable, but can still be changed into.  There is a reasonable chance that will break things though, I wouldn't recommend it.  Also the contents of / are very predictable so you wouldn't really be doing much, someone can just guess all the common names and list them instead
[02:42] <lathiat> The_Tick: (its important to keep the execute permission on a directory, as that is what lets someone change into it, even if they can't list it)
[02:42] <lathiat> The_Tick: also no idea if the / node is spceial in any way here.. in any case, i would try it on a junk system/VM first :P
[02:42] <The_Tick> ya I was trying to figure out what this user did
[02:42] <lathiat> ah
[02:42] <lathiat> well in that case likely they did chmod o-r /
[02:42] <The_Tick> Figured asking it that way would make it easier to reverse it
[02:42] <lathiat> ls -lad /
[02:42] <lathiat> will show you the perms
[02:42] <The_Tick> so chmod o+r / sounds good
[02:42] <lathiat> drwxr-xr-x 35 root root 4096 Dec 29 07:49 /
[02:42] <The_Tick> ah nice
[02:43] <Pupuser402> Has anyone had any problems loading ubuntu from USB on a laptop with nvidia and getting a split screen?
[02:43] <The_Tick> explain split screen
[02:43] <Pupuser402> the image is split on different parts of the screen, pixelated, etc
[02:44] <Pupuser402> overlapping text
[02:44] <The_Tick> is there an hcl for ubuntu?
[02:44] <The_Tick> ah there is
[02:44] <Pupuser402> hcl?  I'm new to this linux thing.....
[02:45] <The_Tick> that's not a linux thing :)
[02:45] <The_Tick> it's a hardware compatibility list
[02:45] <The_Tick> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:45] <Pupuser402> ya, i've seen that before
[02:45] <The_Tick> I'm wondering if it's on that list
[02:45] <The_Tick> laptop?
[02:45] <Pupuser402> HP Pavilion dv6000
[02:46] <Pupuser402> I got puppy linux to work with no problem, have had horrible luck with ubunutu and debian
[02:46] <The_Tick> 6000 or 6600?
[02:46] <Pupuser402> 6000
[02:47] <The_Tick> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HP_dv6000_Series
[02:47] <The_Tick> try reading that bad boy
[02:47] <The_Tick> looks pretty nice
[02:47] <The_Tick> I should probably try ubuntu at some point
[02:47] <Pupuser402> cool, thanks
[02:49] <Telendrith> Hi. I installed Ubuntu Server on a Dell PowerEdge 2950 but it won't boot into the OS, any ideas?
[02:50] <compdoc> Telendrith, how many drives?
[02:50] <crazyhorse18> hey my /tmp directory keeps filling up
[02:51] <Telendrith> compdoc: Just two, in a raid 1 setup
[02:51] <The_Tick> crazyhorse18: with what?
[02:51] <The_Tick> Telendrith: where does it stop booting?
[02:52] <crazyhorse18> i'm not sure i ran a diskanalyser on it.. and it says 4.1kb
[02:52] <Telendrith> After the F/W Initilization and remote access setup. Just stalls.
[02:52] <crazyhorse18> tmpfs                        1.0G  1.0G     0 100% /tmp  << but that is df -h
[02:53] <The_Tick> you only have a 1 gb tmp?
[02:53] <The_Tick> that seems tiny to me
[02:53] <Stanley00> crazyhorse18: what's result of "sudo du -sh /tmp/* | sort -h"
[02:53] <Stanley00> The_Tick: looks like he has 2G ram, and tmp mouted as tmpfs :3
[02:53] <crazyhorse18> Stanley00, all 0's
[02:53] <The_Tick> Stanley00: ya I'd agree
[02:53] <crazyhorse18> 5 directorys, all 0
[02:53] <The_Tick> crazyhorse18: du -sh /tmp
[02:54] <The_Tick> guess he needs a sudo ont aht
[02:54] <crazyhorse18> 4.0k /tmp
[02:54] <Stanley00> crazyhorse18: hmm... looks like some file is deleted while still being used...
[02:54] <neonixcoder> Is there any way I can see what process is forking a lot?
[02:54] <Stanley00> crazyhorse18: can you reboot this machine?
[02:54] <crazyhorse18> now. i have written a program that sha1's every single file on the computer.. and its probably whats cuasing it
[02:54] <crazyhorse18> yeah i can reboot it, but i'd like to fix the problem
[02:55] <The_Tick> sudo du -x --all --max-depth=1 / | sort -n
[02:55] <haijohn> Ericjohn
[02:55] <The_Tick> paste the output to a paste service, pastie is fine
[02:55] <Stanley00> crazyhorse18: reboot can fix it, and rewrite your prog too :P
[02:55] <The_Tick> unless there's a pastebot here
[02:55] <crazyhorse18> Stanley00, all it does is iterate through the files
[02:55] <The_Tick> people actually want to reboot linux?
[02:55] <The_Tick> crazyhorse18:  The_Tick> sudo du -x --all --max-depth=1 / | sort -n
[02:56] <Stanley00> crazyhorse18: does it use any *temp* files, as in mktemp?
[02:56] <Stanley00> The_Tick: well, you can file the file with lsof, and kill the process too, but reboot is simplier :P
[02:56] <Stanley00> *can find*
[02:56] <compdoc> Telendrith, can you boot a live version of ubuntu?
[02:57] <The_Tick> I'm hoping to find out where its working directory is and then lsof | grep -i filename
[02:57] <compdoc> Telendrith, Im thinking it must be the raid
[02:57] <The_Tick> if you want to take it from here Stanley00 feel free I don't use ubuntu :)
[02:57] <crazyhorse18> hmm yeah
[02:57] <crazyhorse18> maybe i can reboot
[02:57] <The_Tick> maybe he's doing something specific for the distro
[02:57] <The_Tick> crazyhorse18: the probelm will just resurface
[02:57] <crazyhorse18> i've only got 200k files left (it managed to do 21 million before it crashed)
[02:58] <Telendrith> compdoc: Yea, I'm going to try and re-initalize the raid. If that Dosn't work, just use one drive.
[02:59] <ziikutv> Hello guys, I have a microcontroller which runs Ubuntu (They have the ubuntu iso or w/e and some other things I have to flash on the microcontroller) .. HOWEVER, it says that I can address the GPIO pins by simply deferencing "virtual file system" can someone explain how that is possible? (i.e: /sys/devices/virtual/misc/gpio/mode/)
[03:00] <ziikutv> I was told in anothre channel that it is done by the kernel.. so does that mean the functionality of that "address" is added in by the board developer inside the installation file/iso ?
[03:00] <ziikutv> If you read literally first first paragrap hhere: https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/programming-the-pcduino/accessing-gpio-pins
[03:12] <blackrain> Hello?
[03:12] <daftykins> yes?
[03:12] <blackrain> I have some questions regaqrding desktop environments
[03:13] <daftykins> !ask
[03:13] <jerome> @could somebody tell me what is this app for?
[03:14] <somsip> jerome: ubuntu support
[03:14] <blackrain> sorry Im new, So regarding Window managers, do they change the setup of the desktop and how you interact with it?
[03:14] <somsip> blackrain: they have different WIMP interfaces - how the WIndows, Icons, Mouse and Pointers work
[03:15] <blackrain> http://i.imgur.com/VxjmGpE.png, This is the kind of display im after, I want to know if I can get as close to this as possible
[03:15] <jerome> somslp thank u
[03:15] <somsip> *menus not mouse.
[03:15] <blackrain> I talked to the person who had this, and he is using DZEN, and Herbstluftwm
[03:15] <blackrain> will those implement the graphical changes as well as the functional changes?
[03:16] <blackrain> Ideally I would only have that top status bar
[03:16] <somsip> blackrain: dzen will give you the tiled windows, and other packages may give you what else you want. It might be built into dzen. Maybe talk more to the same person
[03:17] <somsip> blackrain: no, sorry. I though dzen was a WM but it's not. The screenshot there could be one of a few, like xmonad, dwm or wmii.
[03:18] <blackrain> I am sure the tiling windowm anager is Herbstluftwm
[03:18] <blackrain> Im after the desktop environment more than the functionality at this stage
[03:18] <jerome> 这里有人懂中文吗？
[03:18] <somsip> blackrain: it appears to be a WM. So what is your real question here?
[03:18] <somsip> !zh | jerome
[03:19] <blackrain> Do you have any recommendations for removing the side taskbar, and getting a terminal run desktop as shown in the screen shot
[03:19] <blackrain> also a side question, do tou recognize that music player in the screenshot as well? Thanks again for the help
[03:19] <somsip> blackrain: what side taskbar? You mean in unity? You've answered this question yourself when you said it was herbstluftwm
[03:20] <yaoxi> hello everybody
[03:20] <blackrain> yes the unity taskbar, I havent ever installed a windowsmanager
[03:20] <blackrain> I wanted to know if window managers remove taskbars and change the desktop enronment that drastically
[03:21] <keviv> Besides /home, what else would be prudent to factor out to separate partitions (to ease backups, mitigate runaway filling up the root fs, etc)?
[03:21] <somsip> blackrain: unity is the default wm. If you install another wm, it will be different. Like screenshots of herbstluftwm show
[03:21] <CHVNX> blackrain: Unity is a window manager. If you use a different Windo manager, you will lose Unity. And its panel.
[03:21] <Bashing-om> keviv: Server ?
[03:21] <keviv> Bashing-om: desktop
[03:22] <blackrain> Ah! i see! thank you so much, I didnt know that Unity was a wm, that solves everything
[03:22] <somsip> keviv: it's a quesiton with a myriad of answers all of which are right, wrong, and start holy wars.
[03:22] <keviv> Oh boy
[03:22] <somsip> !partitioning | keviv
[03:22] <keviv> Ooh thanks
[03:22] <Bashing-om> keviv: Generally with the desk top. I know of no good reasons other than a seperate /home .
[03:23] <somsip> keviv: but it is really as thick as you want to slice it.
[03:23] <dejancar> "unable to find a medium containing a live file system" - help plos
[03:23] <keviv> somsip: 404 not found :?
[03:23] <dejancar> i think that i will eat my monitors
[03:23] <somsip> keviv: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes (must be a dead factoid)
[03:23] <keviv> Ah that's better
[03:24] <keviv> Bashing-om: so not even /usr?
[03:25] <keviv> Wait I thought swaps were supposed to match in size the amount of memory you have. They say 2 GB.
[03:26] <somsip> keviv: old rule was 2xRAM which still applies for suspend and hibernate IIRC. But if you have tons of RAM which is more common nowadays, you might not been twice as much swap
[03:27] <keviv> somsip: only 8 GB, but I can't really see myself even using that much ever, but 16 GB off the 1 TB hdd won't kill it
[03:27] <Bashing-om> keviv: I do run a seperate /var on my -now- desktop install . even that is not needed - A seperate /home can be a good thing . // For a desktop a consolidated system makes better use of disk space, and where applications expect to find defaults .
[03:28] <somsip> keviv: when I had 8GB I had 8GB swap and didnt use it from what I noticed. But now I have 16GB and not that less than 8GB is spare, so maybe it was used. I don't think it's hassle to create swap for the same reaosns as you just said, but some will argue it is unecessary with high amounts of RAM
[03:28] <somsip> *note
[03:29] <keviv> Eh, I'll just shrink it if I ever need the space
[03:30] <keviv> thanks somsip and Bashing-om
[03:30] <keviv> And ubottu even ;)
[03:31] <Bashing-om> keviv: :-) , keep it simple and change as required .
[03:33] <keviv> I'm actually pretty glad I can keep this down to 5 partitions (also have win installed)
[03:35] <Bashing-om> keviv: IF a greater number of partitons is a factor, consider GPT partitioning (128 primary partitions) . And as well the 4096 block size makes for a faster system if crunching numbers.
[03:37] <keviv> Bashing-om: iirc it is gpt, because my OEM (HP) originally had 7 partitions (+2 unallocated partitions) :/
[03:39] <luka_> s
[03:39] <luka_> hello?
[03:39] <Bashing-om> keviv: Maybe yes, maybe not so yes, as one of those primary partitions may be an 'extended' partition as a "container" for 'logical' partitions . to see -> sudo part -l .
[03:39] <luka_> I need some support about battery on my lenovo G500, just changed from windows to ubuntu
[03:39] <keviv> Bashing-om: oh sorry I mean they were all primary, or at least that's what gparted showed me at the time
[03:40] <luka_> Can someone help me ? I need some support about battery on my lenovo G500, just changed from windows to ubuntu
[03:40] <Bashing-om> keviv: Yepper, I agree, 7 primary partitions is a GPT disk .
[03:41] <luka_> Can someone help me ? I need some support about battery on my lenovo G500, just changed from windows to ubuntu
[03:41] <somsip> !patience | luka_
[03:41] <luka_> alrighy ...
[03:42] <luka_> and I am waiting for what?
[03:42] <keviv> luka_: I'm no expert here, but irc support generally goes smoother if you just go ahead and ask your question and wait for somebody to respond, rather than ask to ask
[03:43] <luka_> ok, tnx :)
[03:43] <balazs> how do I check if a partition of mine is on SSD or normal disk ?
[03:44] <somsip> luka_: the thing is, you've got quite a specific issue, it's quiet time here (the West is mostly asleep), you haven't given a lot of details, and you're asking the same thing every couple of minutes.
[03:45] <luka_> My battery is charging up to 59% and won't go any higher, if I unplug the AC, battery lasts for an hour maybe. My laptop is lenovo g500 . I started using ubuntu yesterday, on windows I had lenovo energy managment and I set the battery to charge up to 60% ... is there a way to set the battery to charge to 100% without switching back to windows.
[03:46] <somsip> luka_: have a full read of this. It might apply but I'm not sure http://askubuntu.com/questions/34452/how-can-i-limit-battery-charging-to-80-capacity
[03:47] <luka_> I will try the solution provided there, thank you very much
[03:49] <luka_> did not go so well ... "could not insert 'tp_smapi': No such device
[03:49] <luka_> " -
[03:50] <somsip> luka_: no idea. I tried, but <shrugs>
[03:58] <luka_> is there a way to run windows from usb just temporarely so I can install and run lenovo energy managment?
[03:59] <Lesliecho> If i select the encryption option during install is it easy to switch that later and is it possible to recover data on another computer if i still know the password?
[04:00] <Telendrith> Hrm, so I re-initialized my raid 1 - but it still won't get past boot :/
[04:00] <i0d9i20> can you still ubuntu on a chromebook?
[04:01] <i0d9i20> i mean, can you install ubuntu on a chromebook?
[04:03] <Lesliecho> If i select the encryption option during install is it easy to switch that later and is it possible to recover data on another computer if i still know the password?
[04:04] <i0d9i20> Lesliecho, i think so
[04:05] <Lesliecho> Is it just me or is this place much less active compared to before
[04:06] <keviv> Bashing-om: oh I feel dumb now. I didn't realize that you meant sudo parted -l actually TELLS you what table your drive uses :D
[04:07] <Lesliecho> Im so nervous to replace windows right now cuz if i mess up it doesnt seem like many ppl are here to bail me out heh
[04:08] <i0d9i20> Lesliecho, they won't be
[04:08] <i0d9i20> Lesliecho, you should probably stick with windows or maybe dual boot
[04:09] <Lesliecho> They were more active earlier in the day but i had to download the iso
[04:09] <i0d9i20> windows isn't that bad, just use free and open source apps on windows
[04:10] <keviv> Lesliecho: in addition to what i0d9i20 said, once you use it enough, you'll grow more confident with it, to the point where you can really weigh your options
[04:10] <keviv> Instead of relying on one because it's familiar, they'll both be familiar eventually
[04:10] <i0d9i20> or start with the liveCD/USB for a while
[04:11] <Lesliecho> They said earlier because i just browse the web and watch movies that i should switch
[04:11] <i0d9i20> Lesliecho, why do you want to switch, because you can do what on any operating system heh
[04:12] <i0d9i20> but with linux you worry less about viruses and stuff
[04:12] <Lesliecho> well because windows is scary and not free
[04:12] <keviv> Lesliecho: it's free for you isn't it?
[04:12] <i0d9i20> but if you have it on your computer you probably already paid for it
[04:12] <keviv> (Or don't need to ;)
[04:13] <Lesliecho> Ya i paid for this versionof windows but its still scary lol
[04:14] <i0d9i20> if i was confortable with ubuntu i would probably set up a dual boot, because microsoft office comes in handy, can you can install a lot of windows apps and games
[04:15] <keviv> ^
[04:15] <southworth_> what about onedrive?
[04:15] <southworth_> that basically covers all your office needs doesn't it?
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> i0d9i20: you can use playonlinux and office online ubuntu apps
[04:15] <Lesliecho> My disk is only 80gb and windows is taking 65 i cant really dual
[04:15] <southworth_> 80gb?
[04:16] <keviv> Lesliecho: netbook?
[04:16] <southworth_> how old is that thing?
[04:16] <Lesliecho> Its a solid state or something i donno
[04:16] <keviv> Ahh
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> Lesliecho: install ubuntu 14.04 single on your ssd, you will be pleased
[04:16] <i0d9i20> lotuspsychje, yeah you can, i had microsoft office on both wine and virtualbox but liinux updates broke those programs for me thus i found it easier just to have windows on dual boot
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> i0d9i20: checkout the article on omgubuntu for office web apps for ubuntu
[04:17] <Lesliecho> Lotus should i do the encryption thing with the install or just do it later?
[04:18] <Lesliecho> Im literally at the install screen lol im webchat on my phone
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> Lesliecho: if you want encrypted /home choose at your setup
[04:18] <keviv> Lesliecho: needless to say (yet I'll still say it), whatever you do, make sure to make a full backup
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> Lesliecho: but as regular user i would not reccomend encryption
[04:19] <keviv> If nothing else, at least backup C:\Users\<You>
[04:19] <i0d9i20> Lesliecho, there is a command line way to recover your encrypted ubuntu, but it takes a bit of a learning curve, the Grub tends to mess up on my at times
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> Lesliecho: the safest way to keep data in my opinion is on usb and burried under the ground
[04:20] <Lesliecho> Okay and does lvm option matter then?
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> Lesliecho: i would choose regular install
[04:21]  * keviv really wishes gparted knew how to "move" 20 GiB of empty space
[04:26] <i0d9i20> lotuspsychje, interesting, but i'm not a fan of cloud competing i value my personal privacy more
[04:26] <i0d9i20> computing*
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> i0d9i20: dont like cloud neither :p
[04:32] <prabhu> hello
[04:33] <prabhu> r u thr
[04:50] <hickuper> lotuspsychje: safest way to keep data. Is tell no one then kill self
[04:56] <holaaaa> hola
[04:56] <holaaaa> alguien me lee?
[04:56] <holaaaa> hola?
[04:56] <holaaaa> Me siento edio es
[04:57] <holaaaa> estupido habalndo solo xD
[04:58] <holaaaa> holaaaaaaaaa
[04:58] <holaaaa> me van a banear
[05:01] <Ben64> holaaaa: don't do that
[05:01] <holaaaa> sory
[05:02] <holaaaa> only i need somebody who teach my use this
[05:02] <Ben64> holaaaa: explain your issue
[05:02] <holaaaa> i no speek inglish
[05:02] <NoticeMeSenpai> if i have flash installed and it works with firefox but not chromium what did i do wrong?
[05:02] <holaaaa> yo hablo español
[05:02] <somsip> !es | holaaaa
[05:03] <holaaaa> tanks for the help
[05:07] <NoticeMeSenpai> flash please?
[05:08] <somsip> !info flashplugin-installer | NoticeMeSenpai
[05:08] <NoticeMeSenpai> ^ its installed just not working with chromium for some reason
[05:08] <lowryder> hmm, is ubottu a bot that can detect Spanish and then message that user?
[05:09] <lowryder> I wonder what words it picks up on
[05:09] <somsip> lowryder: no, I'm a person who saw the user say they speak English and I triggered the bot with !es
[05:09] <lowryder> oh, somsip called it
[05:09] <somsip> s/English/Spanish
[05:09] <lowryder> I was tremendously impressed for a moment. Now I'm only slightly impressed
[05:10] <somsip> lowryder: I try to be slightly less than impressive. It gives me a lower standard to live up to
[05:10] <lowryder> somsip: words for us all to live by
[05:10] <somsip> lowryder: only kidding. I'm great really. Andway...OT
[05:13] <NoticeMeSenpai> does anybody know how I can get flash working in chromium?
[05:14] <somsip> NoticeMeSenpai: did you work through this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[05:14] <hickuper> NoticeMeSenpai: install flash for Firefox and it will work in chromium
[05:15] <hickuper> NoticeMeSenpai: or use chrome. It has its own flash and its newer version of flash.
[05:15] <NoticeMeSenpai> pepperflash?
[05:15] <i0d9i20> or just use firefox heh
[05:15] <somsip> NoticeMeSenpai: yes
[05:15] <NoticeMeSenpai> hickuper, i'd love to but it wasnt in the software centre
[05:17] <hickuper> NoticeMeSenpai: go to chrome web site and download the ubuntu deb x64 or x86 version you need.
[05:17] <somsip> NoticeMeSenpai: *if* you want to install Chrome, the PPA is useful
[05:17] <sveta> doesn't chromium have its own (sufficiently new) version of Flash?
[05:18] <somsip> sveta: pepperflash
[05:18] <hickuper> NoticeMeSenpai: just go to the website. No ppa is needed.
[05:18] <sveta> I don't see a need to install Google Chrome in this case -- move from "chromium" to "chrome" does not look justified.
[05:19] <hickuper> sveta: chromium is open-source so it could not have flash. It uses the same older version flash firefox uses.
[05:19] <NoticeMeSenpai> i dont know this is my first time using ubuntu and i just wanna look at some twitch before i sleep :/
[05:20] <sveta> We should not use closed source flash, if the opensource version works. Where Flash is needed, an attempt should be made to install the opensource version first.
[05:20] <sveta> "install flash for Firefox and it will work in chromium" looks like good advice to me.
[05:20] <NoticeMeSenpai> so i should do the pepper instead?
[05:20] <sveta> Would try installing browser-plugin-gnash.
[05:21] <somsip> NoticeMeSenpai: you can use pepper in chromium, or install chrome, or install firefox and flashlplugin. All your choice. Or gnash, as sveta has just said
[05:21] <hickuper> NoticeMeSenpai: https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html
[05:21] <NoticeMeSenpai> so many choices
[05:21] <Montaro>  what you really want to do is install internet explorer under wine :P
[05:21] <sveta> Flash from Adobe is closed source. Pepperflash is closed source also. Try GNash first.
[05:21] <somsip> NoticeMeSenpai: you will find this as you are new to ubuntu. You soon find out which way is your way
[05:22] <sveta> There is indeed a lot of choice; I apologize, many people in this room and they do not have clear single preference.
[05:23] <hickuper> NoticeMeSenpai: they are confusing you. The easiest thing to do is go to that web page and install chrome. Your new and trust me it's easy.
[05:23] <sveta> What hickuper suggested is to install software outside of package manager. This is not supported here, surely?
[05:23] <daftykins> !find pepperflash
[05:23] <somsip> NoticeMeSenpai: I'd go with what hickuper said until you find your way. Chrome is fine in itself
[05:23] <daftykins> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree | NoticeMeSenpai install this
[05:23] <sveta> Can we please stop asking him to try things different from gnash?
[05:23] <somsip> sveta: some ops say PPAs are not supported here, others say we support what users are prepared to give advice on.
[05:24] <daftykins> sveta: gnash is a poor suggestion
[05:24] <sveta> ?
[05:24] <somsip> sveta: no, we give him alternatives and he follows up the advice he thinks is best
[05:24] <hickuper> sveta: it will place a repository on software sources. Your recommending PPA and confusing issues for a new person.
[05:24] <sveta> I am not recommending  a ppa.
[05:25] <somsip> I recommended the PPA. In retrospect, not so helpful for a newbie
[05:25] <hickuper> sveta: the chrome download will automatically install chrome repository on his sources. Not a hacked PPA.
[05:26] <somsip> NoticeMeSenpai: my last word on this as it's deteriorating. If you want to play flash and you're okay with chrome, here are instructions http://tecadmin.net/install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu/
[05:26] <sveta> I am not recommending  a ppa at all. I am recommending a /package/.
[05:27] <hickuper> somsip: https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html
[05:27] <hickuper> My last word somsip
[05:28] <NoticeMeSenpai> okay thank you
[05:34] <hickuper> sveta: you were talking over me so was somsip
[05:39] <DJJeff> each time I unhook my hdmi monitor and plug it back in tty7 is black but I can still see login screen on tty1-6
[05:39] <DJJeff> using ctrl+alt+{1-6}
[05:40] <DJJeff> does my Xorg crash when I unplug my hdmi?
[05:40] <somsip> DJJeff: anything in your .xsession-errors? Though is X running if you're only using TTY?
[05:41] <hickuper> DJJeff: hdmi hot plug. Not sure it works.
[05:41] <DJJeff> I have rebooted since the problem so my logs might be empty
[05:41] <somsip> DJJeff: maybe best to reproduce and look for errors then
[05:41] <DJJeff> seems to be the only solution is to reboot and loose my session
[05:42] <hickuper> DJJeff: setup dual monitor so it's always active.
[05:42] <NoticeMeSenpai> and im guessing if i want to play minecraft i want openjdk?
[05:42] <somsip> NoticeMeSenpai: you need a JDK. I found openjdk worked fine, though IIRC minecraft website suggested there may be issues
[05:42] <hickuper> DJJeff: mirror dual monitor.
[05:43] <NoticeMeSenpai> hmm
[05:45] <DJJeff> I will save and close what I am working on join freenode on my laptop and look for this errors file
[05:46] <somsip> DJJeff: just a suggestion with you asking if it crashed Xorg. No idea if it will be the case
[05:49] <DJJeff> a funny I found yesterday is that if I stop network-manager and try to sudo it says "Unable to resolve host: {my hostname}"
[05:49] <ame> Hi can anyone help me on this.I am trying to execute this command "mkdir -p $FOAM_RUN " but it is saying missing operand??
[05:49] <somsip> ame: what is the output of 'echo $FOAM_RUN'
[05:50] <DJJeff> ame: does $FOAM_RUN have anything in it?
[05:50] <DJJeff> try to echo it
[05:50] <SchrodingersScat> also quote every expansion
[05:50] <ame> no it is showing empty if i echo
[05:50] <somsip> ame: yeah, mkdir will do that with no params
[05:51] <ame> DJJeff:what does this command says??
[05:51] <somsip> ame: $FOAM_RUN should contain something like '/usr/local/package' so that mkdir can create those directories. It's empty, so mkdir complains
[05:52] <ame> somsip:What should i do now??
[05:52] <somsip> ame: what are you trying to run or install?
[05:52] <ame> http://www.openfoam.org/download/ubuntu.php At this installation am getting error
[05:52] <ame> somsip:OpenFoam
[05:53] <somsip> ame: type ". /opt/openfoam231/etc/bashrc" then try the mkdir again
[05:54] <ame> somsip:where to type this in bashrc or terminal??
[05:54] <somsip> ame: terminal. Did you do any of the steps under User Configuration on that page?
[05:54] <ame> somsip:no not yet
[05:54] <sveta> I do not see an mkdir step at that page. It adds a new source and installs a package from apt.
[05:54] <somsip> ame: so you're running later commands before doing the setup properly. And my patience evaporates like mist on a hot day...
[05:55] <ame> somsip:still stuck in that step...But i got icFoam -help till successfully
[05:55] <digiZen> sveta: it is near the bottom
[05:55] <sveta> it is installed already? ah.
[05:55] <somsip> sveta: under Getting Started, after the User Configuration which he's not done from what he's said
[05:55] <ame> somsip:sorry i have configured till user configuration
[05:56] <sveta> open a new terminal window and try there - it needs to set a new env variable apparently (and that's probably not yet set in terminal windows you opened before the install, dunno).
[05:56] <sveta> right. it has the user config step which has to be done before getting started.
[05:57] <sveta> > "Open a **new** terminal window (see Note 2)  ... ( If a user wishes to execute icoFoam in the same terminal window, they must first register the change to the .bashrc file by typing at the terminal prompt (note the dots):  source $HOME/.bashrc)"
[05:57] <sveta> ame: --^
[05:57] <ghosty> hello
[05:58] <ame> sveta:hi
[05:58] <sveta> hi.
[05:58] <digiZen> hello ghosty
[05:58] <ghosty> have a problem with any live version running wit nvidia
[05:58] <ghosty> on compaq presario
[05:58] <ame> sveta:wat should i do now??I have configured till user configuration and getting the output for icoFoam -help  without any problem
[05:59] <ghosty> any reason as to why it doesnt load the login screen or just hangs during live installion ?
[05:59] <sveta> ame: I would open a new terminal window and try the mkdir line there.
[05:59] <sveta> ame: why do you say "till"? did you edit your bashrc or not? I don't understand you.
[06:00] <ame> sveta:ya i edited the bashrc file but i am confused that i need to add a dot before that??
[06:00] <ghosty> is it common for linux and nvidia not to get aong ?
[06:00] <ghosty> along*
[06:00] <ame> you want the bashrc file to be pasted anywhere??
[06:00] <daftykins> ghosty: not really no
[06:00] <somsip> ghosty: does the laptiop use optimus?
[06:01] <somsip> !optimus | ghosty
[06:01] <ghosty> ive tired many differnt live cds even wubi but after it boots it just goes black sometimes with a blink underscore at the top
[06:01] <daftykins> a presario isn't a laptop, i don't think
[06:01] <somsip> isn't it? my bad
[06:01] <sveta> ame: add "source /opt/openfoam231/etc/bashrc" to the end of your ~/.bashrc file. yes, the file name contains a dot.
[06:01] <daftykins> !nomodeset | ghosty use this
[06:01] <ghosty> no its a compaq presario desktop with nivida cuda
[06:02] <Jef91> Is Qt the native tool kit for building apps on Ubuntu Mobile?
[06:02] <ghosty> nomodeset how do i apply that to the live cd part of installition ?
[06:03] <somsip> ghosty: stuff here - looks incomplete https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cuda
[06:03] <sveta> Jef91: consider asking #ubuntu-touch .
[06:03] <daftykins> "nvidia cuda" = not a card.
[06:03] <Jef91> thanks sveta tried #ubuntumobile and it was empty
[06:03] <sveta> welcome.
[06:03] <ghosty> nivida cuda is a platform built for amdx64 which is in my desktop computer
[06:03] <ame> sveta:i have add the line in ~/.bashrc but when i am trying to open terminal i got a message on the top of the terminal line  "bash: /opt/openfoam231/etc/bashrc: No such file or directory"
[06:04] <sveta> ame: good catch. what does « file /opt/openfoam* » say?
[06:04] <ame> sveta:/opt/openfoam221: directory
[06:06] <sveta> ame: run apt-get update and apt-get install openfoam. does it say that you have the latest package? (they mean to say that they're shipping version 231 now. (what Ubuntu version are you on?))
[06:06] <ghosty> that is a great page you sent me too on installing the drivers but i cannot even get into the installer to do that
[06:07] <somsip> ghosty: I'm not sure how relevant it is, but it suggest that there is a special thing about cuda and ubuntu
[06:07] <ame> sveta:i found the mistake i done...its because of the entry in bashrc as like in the website but i have installed a different version...Now i changed its working
[06:07] <daftykins> ghosty: you can set 'nomodeset' before booting.
[06:08] <ghosty> alright ill figure it out thank you all
[06:08] <sveta> ame: yeah, you got it: these two versions have to match -- I am glad it's working now. (I suspect that version 221 is unmaintained by now.)
[06:08] <ame> sveta:oh
[06:09] <sveta> ame: as we may see, 231 is the latest stable release.
[06:11] <sveta> ame: if you're unable to obtain 231, use 221 -- they do not cite security breaches or it being EOL per se. (Learning the new version would help you avoid having to re-learn it and convert files later on.)
[06:12] <ame> sveta:ok finally igot everything running except the last command parafoam....If i give parafoam it is saying error "FATAL ERROR: ParaView reader module libraries do not exist  Please build the reader module before continuing: cd $FOAM_UTILITIES/postProcessing/graphics/PV3Readers ./Allwclean ./Allwmake"
[06:13] <sveta> ame: it suggests you to run the 3 commands ("cd $FOAM_UTILITIES/postProcessing/graphics/PV3Readers", then "./Allwclean", and then "./Allwmake") from what I can see.
[06:13] <sveta> ame: is the "paraview" package installed? it'd probably work too; I'm not sure whether it is the same as the "paraview reader" they are looking for.
[06:13] <id_> tes
[06:14] <cfhowlett_> !test | id_
[06:37] <Telendrith> I just installed ubuntu server, and it won't boot or get to the boot loader. I think it's because my server dosn't support UEFI, how can I change it to BIOS?
[06:38] <ObrienDave> you might try #ubuntu-server
[06:39] <Telendrith> TM
[06:40] <cfhowlett_> !server | Telendrith
[06:50] <ame> Do anybody have documentation of process,daemons,services with decription....If u have pls share it to me...i am in rush to submit that..
[06:51] <NaranjaLoca> does anyone here know about vpn? I am having trouble seeing the point in l2tp/IPsec as opposed to just IPsec on its own
[06:53] <NaranjaLoca> lot of people here, not so much conversation
[06:54] <ame> Do anybody have documentation of process,daemons,services with decription....If u have pls share it to me...i am in rush to submit that..
[06:54] <Ben64> NaranjaLoca: conversation is for #ubuntu-offtopic ... this channel is for support
[06:54] <Ben64> ame: can you be more specific about what you want?
[06:55] <NaranjaLoca> Ben64, well I was kinda looking for support too... just, no one was talking
[06:55] <ame> Ben64:i want a documnet on what are the daemons,services,process on ubuntu with decription and from which location it is running
[06:55] <cfhowlett_> NaranjaLoca, you don't ask, you don't get.
[06:55] <NaranjaLoca> I asked
[06:56] <NaranjaLoca> does anyone here know about vpn? I am having trouble seeing the point in l2tp/IPsec as opposed to just IPsec on its own
[06:56] <Ben64> ame: still not sure what you mean exactly, which services?
[06:57] <ame> Ben64:Services  like cron,acpi and all with description
[06:57] <Ben64> ame: you should use the man pages
[06:57] <cfhowlett_> !vpn | NaranjaLoca
[06:58] <VLADIMIRPU5> hi
[06:58] <ame> Ben64:okay but the thing is i cannot man that now and prepare document...Definitely someone will have that kind of document so asking
[06:58] <Ben64> ame: you can find the man pages online
[06:59] <NaranjaLoca> ubottu, thanks but the page says that IPsec is not covered so far
[07:00] <NaranjaLoca> ubottu, oh, if only everyone was as honest as you in that regard
[07:02] <NaranjaLoca> does anyone know of another channel, perhaps, where I can ask about IPsec vs l2tp/IPsec ... even google is turning up preciously little
[07:03] <cfhowlett_> NaranjaLoca, #vpn
[07:03] <NaranjaLoca> thanks
[07:04] <ame> Ben64:yeah i am searching but it is not like a document...
[07:06] <soee> good morning
[07:34] <markelite> Morning
[07:56] <kubanc> Hello, what do you prefer for Ubuntu virtual host, x32 or x64?
[07:57] <kubanc> Sorry, i wanted to ask, what do you prefer for guest on Virtualbox. ubuntu x32 or x64
[07:59] <KVMtester> kubanc, perhaps x32 for guests with less than 4GB RAM and x64 for guests with more than 4GB.
[08:00] <kubanc> KVMtester, so it would only depend of the size of RAM and nothing else?
[08:00] <wingede> kubanc: as KVMtester said that's my main decision, however PAE kernels can see upto 64GB, but a single process cannot consume more than the 4GB limit..
[08:01] <KVMtester> kubanc, x64 as a guest should in theory be slightly faster but this is difficult to test in practice for normal apps.
[08:02] <i0d9i20> can you install ubuntu on a chromebook?
[08:03] <wingede> kubanc: unless cost is a factor - generally I go 64bit less hassle
[08:04] <somsip> i0d9i20: in theory, yes
[08:05] <i0d9i20> somsip, what do you mean in theory?
[08:05] <somsip> i0d9i20: yes you can, but it might not be possible or might not work fully for all hardware
[08:05] <i0d9i20> oh that suchs
[08:06] <wingede> i0d9i20: you might want to try a live cd - boot off it and see if you can see your chromebooks disk, network, video etc - then you'll know a bit more to make an informed decision to give it a go
[08:07] <KVMtester> i0d9i20, This may also help you later on - Run Full Linux Apps Inside A Chrome OS Window http://www.techworm.net/2015/01/run-full-linux-apps-inside-chrome-os-window.html
[08:07] <somsip> i0d9i20: and as this needs more research, you will find loads of guides and information if you do search for 'ubuntu on chromebook'
[08:08] <KVMtester> i0d9i20, also Chromebooks can now run Linux inside a window: http://lifehac.kr/FJlw3Bo
[08:09] <i0d9i20> i don't have a chromebook, but was going to buy one if i can install ubuntu on it
[08:10] <somsip> i0d9i20: then you can pick one that is very compatible
[08:11] <somsip> i0d9i20: something like this might help you https://github.com/eyecreate/ubuntu-chromebook-installer
[08:12] <javnut> does anyone use chromium? I copied my Default profile in .config
[08:12] <javnut> and tried chromium-browser --user-data-dir=/path/to/new/default
[08:12] <javnut> but it doesn't have the same extensions or anything
[08:16] <theadmin> i0d9i20: If you want to run a normal OS, don't buy a Chromebook.
[08:16] <theadmin> Buy a Chromebook if all you want is Chrome.
[08:16] <theadmin> You're going to run into issues regardless, and these devices are not supported in this channel since they can't run actual Ubuntu.
[08:17] <theadmin> They can only run modified derivatives prepared for them, and those aren't supported.
[08:17] <cfhowlett> i0d9i20, perhaps you can run virtual chrome on an ubuntu machine
[08:18] <theadmin> What's the point of that? ChromeOS is literally just the Chrome browser
[08:18] <theadmin> There's no point in running it in a VM
[08:19] <cfhowlett> theadmin, wait, what?  so a "chromebook" is merely a fancied up browser + apps?
[08:19] <theadmin> cfhowlett: Yes.
[08:19] <cfhowlett> theadmin, shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit..  pass.
[08:19] <theadmin> cfhowlett: It runs on a Gentoo base. All Linux "installers" set up chroot environments of some sort
[08:20] <theadmin> Can't even boot to another OS, that thing
[08:20] <theadmin> Secure boot and all
[08:20] <cfhowlett> theadmin, wow.  limited capability but I suppose it fills a niche.
[08:20] <cfhowlett> theadmin, I think I'll just wait for the 2015 dell developer edition instead.
[08:24] <theadmin> cfhowlett: Well, yeah probably. Chromebooks are... pointless, if you ask me, any regular computer can do what they can since anyone can run Chrome/Chromium
[08:25] <aeon-ltd> theadmin: then chromebooks are not for you, but yeah i don't see chromebooks being more than a niche product
[08:32] <KVMtester> I know what you guys are saying and in the case of Chromebooks things are more restricted and controlled like the thin clients of the past. However, Chrome OS itself is more than just a browser after all CoreOS is based on Chrome OS.
[08:33] <theadmin> KVMtester: Well, generally speaking, it's a browser, a few limited command-line utilities, NetworkManager and a few other things, but the whole user experience consists of interacting with the browser anyway.
[08:33] <theadmin> It doesn't have regular apps, you can't install Firefox or LibreOffice on ChromeOS or such
[08:34] <theadmin> Maybe you can in some weird way, I dunno, but that's not easy
[08:35] <theadmin> Either way that's kinda offtopic here.
[08:35] <k69> Hi, i was installing some packages with "sudo apt-get install [package names]" command, after downloading packages and setting up, unpacking and installing process, system rebooted by accident ,  now i cannot apt-get install it again, nor apt-get -f install neither dpkg --configure -a . they give me these errors : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9831615/
[08:35] <KVMtester> It's still an operating system under the covers. The UI is mostly a browser on Chromebooks...but a UI can be almost anything on other Chrome-like devices.
[08:36] <KVMtester> Fair enough, off topic it is.
[08:36] <theadmin> k69: These "ceilometer" packages are giving you trouble, purge them
[08:37] <k69> theadmin, ty for the reply... i try that
[08:37] <theadmin> k69: It tries to create a new database table but the table already exists and they apparently haven't heard of the "CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS" SQL command :/
[08:37] <k69> theadmin, oh alright
[08:40] <k69> theadmin, um which one do i use? sudo apt-get purge [pakage] or dpkg --purge <pakage> ?
[08:50] <linda_> coucou
[08:54] <KVMtester> Anyone familiar with UNetbootin here? I'm trying to understand the difference between using UNetbootin to build Live USB drives and using dd to burn ISOs to USB drives. Would be the compelling advantage of using UNetbootin?
[08:54] <KVMtester> What would be the compelling advantage of using UNetbootin?
[08:54] <Ben64> you can have other files on the drive
[08:55] <KVMtester> Ben64, you mean the persistent area?
[08:55] <Ben64> you can also make it persistent on the flash drive
[08:55] <Ben64> no
[08:55] <Ben64> you can still use it as a flash drive if you use unetbootin
[08:56] <KVMtester> So with UNetbootin, the flash  drive would still be read/write?
[08:56] <Ben64> right
[08:56] <KVMtester> Ben64, thanks.
[09:01] <dirgeable_> hi, i cannot select any new version instead of long term in software manager
[09:03] <KVMtester> Anyone used doclone? http://doclone.nongnu.org/
[09:12] <k69> hey guys, im really stuck with this installing package problem, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9832034/ , system rebooted by accident during setting packages up, and no matter what i do, wont be fixed, what should i do after i purge them, "apt-get install", apt-get -f install", "apt-get install --reinstall" none of them works and gives the same "Errors were encountered while processing: somePackages"
[09:15] <nils__> Hi, for some reason cryptsetup is not included in my initramfs anymore since upgrading to trusty
[09:17] <edman747> yes, my old dell desktop - p3, 512 mb ram, 20 gb hd. works. I love xubuntu.
[09:20] <i0d9i20> edman747, lubuntu might even be more lightweight
[09:20] <i0d9i20> or you can just try LXLE
[09:21] <edman747> I can try to install 14.04 but windows me is taking most of the 20gb drive.
[09:22] <edman747> google - bootable cd with a partition manager.
[09:23] <edman747> make the win me part smaller and make the xubuntu part larger!
[09:24] <i0d9i20> edman747, or you can try Slitaz
[09:26] <edman747> i0d9i20, Slitaz - never heard of it.
[09:27] <i0d9i20> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slitaz
[09:30] <edman747> i0d9i20, that is very cool (good for older computers). I will try it. Thank You.
[09:32] <i0d9i20> edman747, LXLE is just Lubuntu http://lxle.net/
[09:33] <i0d9i20> http://lubuntu.net/
[09:33] <gatton> Interesting. Running Lubuntu on a Chromebook and it's pretty great. Might give LXLE a whirl.
[09:42] <markstar> Morning
[09:45] <Darkwell> hey there
[09:46] <niluje> I want to bind a postgresql database on 0. Any idea how to find which port is used?
[09:46] <iori> Hey Darkwell
[09:46] <iori> morning
[09:49] <arshia> I cannot install wine with software center and terminal. 3 MB remained and when i want to download it , it gives me a 404 error.
[09:49] <arshia> does anyone knows why ????!!!!
[09:51] <Darkwell> I got a bluetooth headset that suppoerts a2dp and it works fine to connect and play sound on this manually but as soon as you try to hook up automatically ubuntu tries to use hsp/hfp by default and it seems to give me some problems to hook the eadset up. Are there any way to set so the machine selects a2dp per default instead to avoid unnecessary probs ?
[09:51] <Darkwell> i use ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[09:51] <sabotender> okay please forgive my ignorance, things are a bit different in ubuntu than on osx server, osx server had a separate terminal and console, which shows all the error logs grouped. if I want to look at error logs, what is the command? I seem to remember a 'tail' command
[09:52] <Darkwell> sabotender, you can hook it to any console you like...
[09:52] <tomodachi> sabotender:  dmesg
[09:52] <Darkwell> dmesg or , as root less /var/log/messages
[09:53] <sabotender> dmesg? okay! I will try it
[09:54] <Darkwell> or else if it doesnt show up there you try to peek into /var/log
[09:54] <sabotender> that didn't seem to work
[09:54] <sabotender> lol
[09:54] <Darkwell> sudo su
[09:54] <sabotender> maybe I need to look at usage of dmesg
[09:54] <Darkwell> first
[09:55] <sabotender> I'm ssh'ing into my server, I'm always su
[09:55] <Darkwell> or sudo dmesg
[09:55] <Ben64> don't ever use sudo su
[09:55] <Ben64> and sudo is not required for dmesg
[09:55] <Weethus> Ben64: why not?
[09:55] <Weethus> (as in why to never use `sudo su`)
[09:55] <Ben64> it creates an incorrect environment
[09:56] <Weethus> what would you suggest as alternative? `su root`?
[09:56] <Ben64> no... "sudo -i"
[09:56] <Darkwell> sudo su works fine for me at least
[09:56] <Ben64> but there are almost no cases where you actually need a full root shell
[09:56] <Ben64> Darkwell: well thats nice, but please do not suggest it here
[09:56] <sabotender> Ben64: I usually just sudo the command that I am trying to use
[09:56] <Darkwell> ok sorry then
[09:56] <Ben64> sabotender: that is the best method
[09:57] <Darkwell> i use a completely aother command stemming from solaris
[09:58] <Darkwell> if you are looking for a specific output maybe : grep mypattern /var/log/* helps
[09:58] <Darkwell> where mypattern is the pattern you look for
[10:00] <sabotender> okay, dmesg is not working for me, it keeps displaying everything that I don't need
[10:00] <Darkwell> are there a ubuntu correct way to set your own default way to hook up your headset on bluetooth ? the thing doesnt cook to mie with a2dp ,,´.. it tries telephony duplkex.. which borks my headset
[10:00] <sabotender> i'll just nano into the error log :-P
[10:01] <Darkwell> aha : cat /var/log/messages | grep iwantthis
[10:01] <Ben64> sabotender: what exactly are you looking for
[10:01] <sabotender> Ben64: oh a bunch of php script errors
[10:01] <Ben64> sabotender: so you want ... apache? logs?
[10:02] <sabotender> ew, no apache. I use lightly, or whatever nickname they gave it :-P
[10:02] <sabotender>  /var/log/lighttpd/error.log
[10:02] <Ben64> there you go
[10:04] <spool> hello everyone
[10:05] <spool> quite
[10:06] <arshia> Does anyone knows the answer for the following question ???? https://askubuntu.com/questions/576857/unable-to-download-wine-with-software-center-or-terminal
[10:07] <Ben65> arshia: is that your post
[10:07] <arshia> Ben65: yes
[10:07] <tomodachi> arshia: can you download and install other packages?
[10:07] <arshia> tomodachi: Yes.
[10:08] <tomodachi> arshia: include the exact error you get in the question
[10:08] <jbouron> arshia: did you try the apt-update as told on AskUbuntu ?
[10:08] <tomodachi> from the terminal
[10:08] <arshia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9832556/
[10:09] <arshia> jbouron: Yep, unsuccessfull.
[10:09] <Ben65> arshia: pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:09] <k69> Hi, mak i ask that when facing broken package and used purge option "sudo apt-get purge <broken-package>", then what to do next?
[10:09] <ame> How to install java on chroot??
[10:10] <tomodachi> arshia: paste the output of apt-get update
[10:11] <arshia> Wait
[10:12] <javnut> I hate gnome-schedule, it doesn't run any of my tasks despite the fact that when I click "execute this task" it runs perfectly fine
[10:12] <arshia> tomodachi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9832683/
[10:12] <lllshamanlll> hi, there, does anybody know how to deal with menu blinking(redrawing) above fullscreen apps?
[10:13] <k1l_> arshia: are you behind a proxy or vpn or need to login the internet?
[10:13] <arshia> k1l_: no.
[10:13] <tomodachi> arshia: ive added your stuff to your askubuntu question
[10:14] <tomodachi> arshia: seems to me your network connectio is at fault here , do you have  some kind of limited internet connection on this box?
[10:15] <arshia> tomodachi: My connection is good. but now, it's low.
[10:15] <arshia> tomodachi, the second command is working.
[10:15] <javnut> and syslog gives no information about why it's not running
[10:15] <arshia> I mean : apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:17] <tomodachi> arshia: can you ftp to ftp.sunet.se   see if it works
[10:17] <Ben64> arshia: the second one requires the first
[10:17] <Ben64> tomodachi: sketchy
[10:18] <tomodachi> Ben64:  sketchy?
[10:18] <Ben64> "here, ftp to this random address" :|
[10:18] <arshia> tomodachi: What do you mean???
[10:19] <arshia> Ben64: I see some errors now.
[10:19] <arshia> 404
[10:19] <ame> Ben64:how to mount in fstab for chroot /proc??
[10:19] <Ben64> ame: why are you asking me
[10:19] <tomodachi> Ben64: hardly, its the swedish university ftp server / debian mirror
[10:19] <CatKiller> Hi there! Using deja-dup, is there any way to ignore *files*? deja dup always fails to backup some files as they are opened (.viminfo, cifsauth)
[10:19] <tomodachi> Ben64: also im asking him to ftp into it, not Download or run something
[10:20] <CatKiller> This in turn causes a bug where they backup and restore button stay greyed out as deja-dup thinks a backup is still runnin
[10:20] <ame> Ben64:you have helped me in the morning..No one is replying..So asking you..
[10:20] <Ben64> ame: then have more patience :D
[10:20] <ame> ok
[10:21] <tomodachi> ame: what is your qeustion? how to mount proc?
[10:22] <arshia> Ben64, I see errors in apt-get dist-upgrade , what can i do ???
[10:22] <Ben64> arshia: as i told you already, you need to complete "sudo apt-get update"
[10:23] <arshia> Ben64: apt-get update gives me 404 error.
[10:23] <Ben64> pastebin
[10:23] <tomodachi> arshia: you never replied to my question, try not skipping important steps in the process of fixing your problem
[10:23] <tomodachi> as Ben64 said dist-upgrade is dependent on the first commands working so focus on those
[10:23] <arshia> tomodachi: I didn't got what you said.
[10:23] <arshia> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9832683/
[10:24] <tomodachi> im still suspecting your internet connection
[10:24] <Ben64> arshia: thats not 404, and is that really all it returns? thats no good
[10:24] <tomodachi> and you have done nothing to prove otherwise
[10:24] <arshia> Ben64: Let me try the command.
[10:25] <ame> tomodachi:i am here using LTSP environment.I need to install java in chroot which means chroot /opt/ltsp/amd64.But if i want to run the java in chroot i need to mount /proc using this command " mount -o bind /proc /opt/ltsp/amd64/proc"
[10:26] <arshia> Ben64: Is this the same ????http://paste.ubuntu.com/9832862/
[10:26] <tomodachi> ame: isnt it mount -t proc none ?
[10:26] <tomodachi> -o bind would be used for your /dev I believe
[10:26] <ame> tomadachi:its making me to mount it daily.I want to make it as permanent mount...
[10:26] <arshia> tomodachi: Can you explain more about ftp ????
[10:26] <ame> tomodachi:sorry i dont understand
[10:27] <ame> tomadachi:Then what is this command used for?
[10:27] <Ben64> arshia: thats not the same, very bad
[10:27] <tomodachi> arshia: run the command :    ftp ftp.sunet.se
[10:28] <tomodachi> press enter twice
[10:28] <arshia> Ben64: What do you mean of Very Bad ???????
[10:28] <ame> tomodachi:if i give that command then java working for client or else not working
[10:28] <arshia> of ----> from
[10:28] <Ben64> tomodachi: sketchy and such a weird test, ftp takes no bandwidth, its meaningless
[10:28] <tomodachi> arshia: press enter twice , type passw   press enter again , then type ls and press enter
[10:28] <tomodachi> if you have any output of a filesystem type quit  ,enter to quit
[10:28] <arshia> tomodachi: When ?????
[10:29] <arshia> tomodachi: what should i enter in the : Name (ftp.sunet.se:arshia):
[10:29] <tomodachi> Ben64: be constructive and stop trolling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUNET
[10:29] <tomodachi> arshia: just type enter
[10:29] <tomodachi> press enter
[10:29] <tomodachi> no password or anything required
[10:30] <tomodachi> i just want to see if ftp works trhough your internet connection or not
[10:30] <Ben64> tomodachi: don't throw around "trolling" so easily. it is absolutely worthless as a test
[10:30] <tomodachi> Ben64: only if it works
[10:30] <arshia> tomodachi: It's not responding after line : 200 PORT command successful.
[10:31] <tomodachi> arshia: did you type passive
[10:31] <omar> Hi all
[10:31] <tomodachi> then ls
[10:31] <tomodachi> if that works then your internet seems fine after all...
[10:31] <Ben64> ftp has worked fine on dialup, still a worthless test
[10:31] <arshia> tomodachi: I typed my password in the Password:
[10:32] <arshia> tomodachi: Was it wrong ???
[10:32] <tomodachi> arshia: i told you just to press enter there
[10:32] <tomodachi> it even said in the login text no password required
[10:32] <omar> I have recently installed 14.10, and I have a problem that when I close the lid, the system suspends and comes back up again immediately. How can I fix that?
[10:32] <arshia> tomodachi: Ok , i'll try again.
[10:32] <tomodachi> arshia: no its fine , anything works
[10:33] <tomodachi> it works anyway so its not your connection
[10:33] <arshia> tomodachi: What do you mean ????
[10:33] <tomodachi> but if i was you i would change my local password
[10:33] <tomodachi> since you just sent your password in cleartext over the internet.
[10:34] <arshia> tomodachi: Same result after enter.
[10:34] <Ben64> tomodachi: maybe figure out an easier test next time...
[10:34] <tomodachi> Ben64: yup :)
[10:34] <Ben64> like... "wget http://www.wswdsupport.com/testdownloadfiles/5MB.zip"
[10:34] <tomodachi> Ben64: yes but that is http
[10:34] <Ben64> indeed it is
[10:35] <Darkwell> found that on http://askubuntu.com/questions/516509/a2dp-bluetooth-problem-on-14-04 the pactl method worked flawlessly to set the headset to work... but the bluetooth UI to toggle on/off the headset still borks things up..
[10:35] <tomodachi> actually wget can handle ftp i think , that would be better for next time
[10:35] <arshia> tomodachi: I started again with what you said , but same result.
[10:35] <Ben64> tomodachi: why does it need to be ftp???
[10:35] <rrr> which channel is freenode help channel?
[10:35] <Ben64> #freenode
[10:35] <tomodachi> Ben64: my theory was that he was behind something limiting access to internet somewhat (allowing some sites etc ) http generaly works but that kind of stuff always stops ftp
[10:36] <Ben64> tomodachi: again, why does that matter at all
[10:36] <tomodachi> well if the firewall / dns / between him and the internet was limiting access that would explain his problem woudlnt it?
[10:36] <arshia> tomodachi: Why it stocks???
[10:36] <Ben64> but the repositories aren't ftp, so its still pointless
[10:37] <tomodachi> arshia: i dont know, my theory was not right
[10:37] <TheBigDeal> Hello
[10:37] <arshia> tomodachi: An Error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9832987/
[10:38] <TheBigDeal> Got this error when i was trying to distro-upgrade : W:Failed to fetch, 404 not found.
[10:39] <Ben64> TheBigDeal: pastebin the output of both "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[10:39] <tomodachi> arshia: it doesnet matter Ben64 is right, apt doesnt use ftp for its mirrors so the test is useless anyway
[10:39] <arshia> tomodachi: Did you see the error i sent you ???
[10:39] <TheBigDeal> Ben64, dist-upgrade -d
[10:39] <TheBigDeal> Ben64, moments
[10:40] <tomodachi> other sources seem to indicate that its an issue of isp whatever doing redirects
[10:40] <tomodachi> and indicator of that being the problem would be the learsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)  you are getting
[10:40] <Ben64> TheBigDeal: what are you trying to accomplish
[10:40] <arshia> tomodachi: What can i do now ????
[10:41] <k1l_> TheBigDeal: no, not -d. just "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[10:41] <TheBigDeal> Ben64, dist-upgrade -d
[10:41] <Ben64> TheBigDeal: there is no "dist-upgrade -d"
[10:41] <Ben64> TheBigDeal: what are you trying to accomplish - as in, what is your goal
[10:41] <TheBigDeal> I'm on 14.10, and i want to to upgrade to 15.04 alpha 2
[10:41] <k1l_> TheBigDeal: that will mal your packages to the latest version of your ubuntu release. if you wan to go to the next ubuntu release do "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[10:41] <Ben64> ah ha
[10:42] <TheBigDeal> Ben64, do you still want the output?
[10:42] <Ben64> 15.04 support in #ubuntu+1 until release, and the correct command is what k1l_ said, then the "-d"
[10:43] <TheBigDeal> Ben64, ?, i did that
[10:43] <Ben64> notice - "do-release-upgrade" is not the same as "dist-upgrade"
[10:44] <TheBigDeal> oh sorry i used do-release-upgrade
[10:44] <tomodachi> arshia: what ubuntu release are you on?
[10:44] <TheBigDeal> i was just kind of confused
[10:46] <TheBigDeal> Ben64
[10:47] <arshia> tomodachi: 14.04
[10:47] <k69> hi, please help me with this problem ( http://askubuntu.com/questions/576874/broken-package-install-purge-configure-reinstall-apt-get-f-wont-work ) cant re-install broken package installation
[10:48] <sabotender> what is 'snmp'?
[10:48] <sabotender> and, is it required?
[10:48] <TheBigDeal> Ben64, there's an issue, i guess.
[10:49] <Ben64> ?
[10:49] <brothersome> k69 indeed a disaster to remove it - I had the same problem and removed the dependencies which are broken
[10:50] <tomodachi> arshia: have you tried changing your DNS to something else? like googles dns 8.8.8.8
[10:50] <jatt> k69: dpkg --purge all packages that complain
[10:51] <jatt> k69: dpkg --purge remove
[10:51] <javnut> I need to troubleshoot my crontab, I've tried printing out syslog (nothing there really), I've tried running the cronjobs under root and yes the jobs run fine when I execute them from terminal or through gnome-schedule
[10:52] <tomodachi> javnut: is the the file   cron is supposed to run executable?
[10:52] <miguel> ssa
[10:52] <jatt> javnut: execute the script every second and change it to write to a file in /tmp confirm the file is created
[10:53] <jatt> javnut: create a cron that executes every second I mean
[10:53] <javnut> jatt: the script is run through gnome-terminal -e '/script; bash;'
[10:53] <javnut> if it was running, the gnome-terminal would pop up
[10:53] <jatt> javnut: how does you crontab look like (pastebin)
[10:53] <javnut> the script also opens up a gui
[10:54] <jatt> o  i see
[10:54] <javnut> * * * * * gnome-terminal -e "bash -c '/home/precise/Desktop/test2.3.sh; bash;'" # JOB_ID_1
[10:54] <javnut> 0,30 * * * * gnome-terminal -e "bash -c '/home/precise/Desktop/test2.3.sh'" # JOB_ID_2
[10:54] <javnut> that's the results of my crontab -l
[10:54] <jatt> why do you need a UI if it's a bash script
[10:54] <jatt> why not run the script directly
[10:54] <jatt> I mean the test*sh script
[10:54] <tomodachi> javnut: well that might be your issue if there is no env set, the script cannot start the gui terminal
[10:54] <tomodachi> and not run
[10:55] <javnut> jatt: because I need to see the output
[10:55] <jatt> javnut: redirect to a file
[10:55] <k69> jatt, ty for the replies, did them
[10:55] <k69> jatt, but didnt work
[10:55] <javnut> jatt: I also tried just a pure /home/precise/Desktop/test2.3.sh that also doesn't work
[10:56] <javnut> the first line of test2.3.sh opens up genymotion (which would be quite noticeable if it ran)
[10:56] <brothersome> k69, it was something else, I had to remove them from a file --- I try to remember what I did
[10:56] <jatt> Is genymotion a gui?
[10:56] <Ben64> javnut: again, you're not going to have a good time starting gui stuff without a proper environment
[10:56] <jatt> indeed
[10:57] <k69> brothersome, ty for the reply, u mean /var/something/cache thing?
[10:57] <k69> brothersome, the archives?
[10:57] <javnut> Ben64: ok, I'll try a simple script which just outputs stuff to a /tmp file and see if it's cron and not env
[10:57] <jatt> javnut: the odds the culprit is cron are very low
[11:01] <javnut> Ben64: yup, it's the env variable apparently. non-gui scripts run fine
[11:01] <k69> brothersome, /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[11:02] <brothersome> Yes, but there are also commands to do that
[11:03] <javnut> so what do I do to get cron to be able to open GUIS?
[11:05] <jatt> set DISPLAY in your script
[11:07] <javnut> jatt: DISPLAY=:1.0 && /path/to/script??
[11:08] <jatt> :0.0 or :1.0 the one it works
[11:10] <brothersome> k69, What does this do? dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq xxxxxxxxxxxx
[11:11] <k69> brothersome, put package names instead of xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ?
[11:11] <brothersome> yes
[11:15] <brothersome> k69, also some in: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/problem-removing-package-500321/
[11:15] <k69> brothersome, it tole me to use "apt-get -f install" after that and after that, it gave the same error
[11:15] <GAM002> how much MB will be needed to upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04?
[11:16] <GAM002> anyone here know?
[11:16] <GAM002> how much MB will be needed to upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04?
[11:16] <SECZero> hold 2.5 gb RAM is that enough?
[11:17] <GAM002> i have 4 gb ram but limited bandwidth so need to know how much MB will the upgrade be
[11:17] <jbouron> SECZero: Ok for terminal only, maybe not enough for a GUI (depends how many programs you are running)
[11:18] <k69> brothersome, thanks for the link, is it safe to remove scripts from /var/lib/dpkg/info/BrokenPackages as he did?
[11:18] <mitt> GAM002 ram is not related to your data traffic, upgrade will not take more than 1gb probably, you can start upgrade programme, it will show you
[11:19] <brothersome> k69, apt-get with the flag --ignore-depends can also help - It took also some time for me to figure that out
[11:20] <SECZero> thanks
[11:20] <GAM002> MItt it is not showing and 1 GB will take a long time for me to download(slow internet) do you know how much MB in Exact?
[11:20] <GAM002> the upgrade just shows downloading part 2
[11:21] <tommy_the_dragon> hi all, I have a dual boot system. I closed the lid while booted in windows. I opened it and windows stalled at welcome screen, so i did a hard reboot and accidentally left ubuntu to boot. Ubuntu complained about not being able to mount windows system drive. I did another reboot and booted to windows, windows boots fine. Could this be something to do with windows Hibernation?
[11:21] <k69> brothersome, would u plz write the wole command "apt-get --ignore-depends ..."
[11:21] <k69> whole*
[11:22] <tommy_the_dragon> Is Ubuntu being clever and not touching windows whilst it is hibernating? I remember hearing something about hiberfil.sys and booting into another operating system whilst windows is hibernating being a no-no.
[11:22] <jbouron> SECZero: As I said it depends on your usage, atm I have firefox and weechat along with some pdf open and my RAM usage is about 700-800 MB. But if you want to run GIMP, blender or something more demanding in ressources, it will be tough
[11:23] <mitt> GAM002, depends on how many packages you've got
[11:23] <tommy_the_dragon> jbourbon: I have an I7 with 16gb of ram and blender makes it roar :p
[11:23] <GAM002> i got none
[11:23] <brothersome> k69, I saw the command: dpkg --ignore-depends=fglrx --purge fglrx
[11:24] <GAM002> i have a update of 450MB pakages
[11:24] <jbouron> tommy_the_dragon: Yeah but SECZero have 2.5 so ....
[11:24] <brothersome> k69, replace fglrx with your program
[11:24] <tommy_the_dragon> It's the only program I've managed to heat the room with
[11:24] <GAM002> currently running fresh ubuintu 12.04
[11:24] <jbouron> tommy_the_dragon: -> watercooling .P
[11:25] <mitt> GAM002, upgrade will take much more memory since all packages you have are outdated
[11:26] <makara> hi. I'm trying to rsync a folder called SCOA to a server "ger" which will serve them using webdav. "rsync -Prtvai SCOA ger:/srv/www/dav/"
[11:26] <GAM002> ok
[11:26] <GAM002> mitt thank you
[11:26] <makara> but I get "rsync: recv_generator: mkdir "/srv/www/dav/SCOA" failed: Permission denied (13)"
[11:27] <mitt> GAM002 you can download an image from ubuntu site and it will upgrade you system, it's much smoother I think, I did it once
[11:27] <tommy_the_dragon> A decent GPU would help
[11:27] <makara> I've added my username makara to the www-data group, which is owner of the dav folder
[11:27] <tommy_the_dragon> I just have some onboard rubbish
[11:27] <makara> why is rsync denied the ability to create that folder?
[11:27] <tommy_the_dragon> so it does cook pretty slow too
[11:28] <jbouron> tommy_the_dragon: i7 but onboard GPU O.o
[11:28] <AnonyEBK> Only Free Working Booter/Stresser 2015 Here : http://youtu.be/tXppwFStFis
[11:29] <mitt> jbouron: it's very cool, I've got i5 with such, no driver problems, fast as puma
[11:29] <k69> brothersome, nop :(
[11:31] <brothersome> k69, An example of editing the file: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux/116296-error-removing-courier-imap.html
[11:31] <jbouron> mitt: Sure it's cool when you don't need a decent GPU, but use Blender with it ...
[11:32] <manu__> hola
[11:32] <tommy_the_dragon> jbouron: It's a work computer, but I just didn't realise I would be using blender when I got it.
[11:32] <tommy_the_dragon> yeah, it's definately not a good build for blender lol
[11:33] <tommy_the_dragon> A pile of graphics cards is definately on my wishlist
[11:33] <mitt> jbouron: for me, Blender works very fast here, I played even Crisis 3 on medium graphics when I had *cough* Windows
[11:34] <makara> i've also tried with "rsync -Prtvai -e ssh --chmod=Du=rwx,Dg=rx,Do=rx,Fu=rw,Fg=r,Fo=r SCOA ger:/srv/www/dav/" as here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9177135/rsync-deploy-and-file-directories-permissions
[11:35] <jbouron> mitt: So it's more powerful than I expected. Speaking of video Games does Wine offers good performances for gaming ?
[11:36] <n13z> jbouron: why use wine when you have Steam?
[11:36] <mitt> jbouron: I don't have Wine and I actually don't play proprietary Windows games now, but I remember things like PES2014 was flying, and Dota 2 of course was fast
[11:37] <mitt> n13z: why use wine when you can dual-boot?
[11:37] <tommy_the_dragon> mitt: It's rendering where you are going to want a nice GPU or 50.
[11:37] <jbouron> mitt: I have Dual Boot but Windows takes half of my storage :(
[11:38] <n13z> Because I don't use Windows or Mac
[11:38] <makara> ok, looks like a simple permissions issue. I still don't understand it though. Please have a look: http://pastie.org/9854148
[11:39] <mitt> n13z: I understand you
[11:39] <n13z> mitt: You understand me more than my wife...
[11:40] <mitt> n13z: lol, she probably never used Linux or Ubuntu in particular
[11:40] <tommy_the_dragon> ahaha
[11:40] <n13z> Nah, just kidding.
[11:40] <n13z> She's user of Mac and loves to play with me thanks to Steamplay.
[11:41] <n13z> ie Trine and Trine 2
[11:41] <mitt> n13z: gosh, what can be better than a wife plays games with you!
[11:41] <mitt> lol
[11:41] <n13z> mitt: A wife that heals you on arena duels XD
[11:42] <jbouron> kek
[11:42] <mitt> n13z: challenge accepted
[11:42] <n13z> mitt: In fact, you can play games with your wife, you only need to invest time investigating.
[11:43] <tommy_the_dragon> makara: you listed the contents of the directory you are in, but you are interested in the permissions of the directory itself so cd .. then ls -al
[11:45] <makara> tommy_the_dragon: the permissions of the directory are shown in the first line. That is the "."
[11:46] <makara> i started a new shell, so its not that
[11:47] <tommy_the_dragon> sorry, of course it is.
[11:48] <makara> it's maddening. makara belongs to www-data, www-data is the owner of the directory, yet makara can't create a file
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:51] <mitt> BluesKaj: how's yours mate
[11:51] <fiatjaf> I can ping and can browse *.archive.ubuntu addresses (I tried, br, us, fr, uk and naked), but I cannot download anything from them with apt or aptitude, and I cannot traceroute to them.
[11:51] <fiatjaf> someone help, please
[11:52] <fiatjaf> here's a transcript of a traceroute: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9826836/
[11:52] <johelish> Hey! I'm trying to install the package "zip" but I get the following error: "Some archives couldn't be fetched. Try running "apt-get update" or with "--fix-missing.". I've tried both but I still can't. What should I do?
[11:52] <fiatjaf> johelish: paste the output of these commands, http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:53] <BluesKaj> fine here mitt, and you?
[11:53] <kaplan> Can anyone help [Arab] set up Ubuntu on her computer?
[11:54] <cfhowlett> kaplan, there is an arab language channel if that's preferable.  also: sabily.org
[11:54] <mitt> BluesKaj: thanks, good; fiatjaf is there a packet loss when you ping?
[11:54] <kaplan> cfhowlett, she isn't muslim, just needs some handholding
[11:55] <ArshiaAghaei> Sorru , i went for coffee.
[11:55] <bbbbb> kaplan: i'll help
[11:55] <ArshiaAghaei> Sorru --> Sorry
[11:55] <[Arab]> :)
[11:55] <fiatjaf> mitt: no
[11:56] <ArshiaAghaei> Can anyone tell me about the problem (404 error for wine) ???
[11:56] <fiatjaf> (at least not in the first 20 packages to uk. and br.)
[11:56] <kaplan> bbbbb and [Arab] please continue
[11:56] <bbbbb> [Arab]: what's the problem?
[11:56] <mitt> fiatjaf: so the problem is you can't fetch repositories and download a package?
[11:56] <fiatjaf> mitt: yes
[11:57] <mitt> fiatjaf: you use default repos?
[11:57] <fiatjaf> mitt: yes
[11:57] <fiatjaf> mitt: they are the ones failing
[11:57] <johelish> fiatjaf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9833809/
[11:58] <bbbbb> [Arab]: would you like to pm? i'm lebanese
[11:58] <javnut> what's an alternative to cronjobs which can open GUIs?
[11:58] <fiatjaf> johelish: you are having the same problem I am.
[11:58] <johelish> fiatjaf: alright
[11:58] <bbbbb> javnut: you can cron a DISPLAY=:0 <gui program>
[11:58] <BluesKaj> fiatjaf, which ubuntu release?
[11:58] <javnut> bbbbb: tried that
[11:58] <javnut> not working
[11:59] <bbbbb> javnut: try it with gnome-terminal so it keeps running
[11:59] <javnut> bbbbb: tried that too
[12:00] <javnut> I've tried env DISPLAY:= 0, combinations with DISPLAY:=0 && /script/path
[12:00] <bbbbb> javnut: try DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'gui program; bash'"
[12:00] <javnut> bbbbb: yup, already tried
[12:00] <javnut> it USED to work
[12:01] <javnut> even without display being set
[12:01] <fiatjaf> BluesKaj: 12.04, but also not working from a 14.10 I have here
[12:01] <javnut> but after I reinstalled, it's not happening
[12:01] <ubone> how is ubuntu able to list all of the partitions on a pc in the file manager?
[12:01] <fiatjaf> mitt, BluesKaj: but the traceroute behavior is strange. (see my paste) from another computer in a near city I can traceroute normally to *.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:02] <fiatjaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9826836/
[12:02] <BluesKaj> fiatjaf, I see you're running thru a vps server, maybe they're blocking/filtering
[12:03] <fiatjaf> johelish: can you run 'traceroute us.archive.ubuntu.com' and paste the results?
[12:03] <bbbbb> javnut: DISPLAY=:0 <gui program> should work
[12:03] <fiatjaf> BluesKaj: I am not
[12:03] <ArshiaAghaei> Does anyone knows my problem ????????
[12:03] <bbbbb> javnut: check /var/log/syslog
[12:03] <fiatjaf> BluesKaj: this VPS is just running my IRC client, and from it I can traceroute and download packages normally
[12:04] <javnut> I had the colon in the wrong place
[12:04] <javnut> I hate myself
[12:05] <fiatjaf> BluesKaj: my home computers are the ones having the problem, and johelish is having the same problem, it seems: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9833809/
[12:06] <mitt> fiatjaf: maybe try set DNS as 8.8.8.8, turn off firewall and openssh
[12:06] <bbbbb> javnut: happens to us all ;)
[12:06] <octoid> bbbbb, you'd first want to call su (so the gui app isn't run as root), and would need something along the lines of 'env DISPLAY=:0 XAUTHORITY=/home/user/.Xauthority /path/to/application'
[12:07] <johelish> fiatjaf: can't install anything
[12:09] <fiatjaf> mitt: already trying switching DNSs, and I'm currently using 8.8.8.8
[12:09] <fiatjaf> and I'm not running openssh or firewall
[12:09] <fiatjaf> as I said, this is my home computer, it is behind a home router
[12:09] <fiatjaf> did you see my paste?
[12:10] <octoid> bbbbb, e.g. /usr/bin/su myuser -c "/usr/bin/env DISPLAY=:0 XAUTHORITY=/home/myuser/.Xauthority /path/to/application"
[12:10] <johelish> fiatjaf: maybe everyone is having the same problem right now?
[12:10] <octoid> paths are not ubuntu specific ^
[12:10] <fiatjaf> johelish: do you have traceroute6 installed?
[12:10] <mitt> fiatjaf: you from it now, you have internet there? or some sites not loading? And what router you have?
[12:10] <johelish> fiatjaf: No, if I did I could've runned the traceroute
[12:11] <fiatjaf> mitt: everything loading fine. including the browser/http versions of *.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:12] <fiatjaf> no, johelish, from another computer I have (in another network) it is running fine. also running fine from my VPS.
[12:13] <fiatjaf> mitt, BluesKaj: I also tried tracerouting to this list http://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt of brazilian archive.ubuntu.com mirrors.
[12:13] <fiatjaf> none of them worked.
[12:14] <octoid> oh.. oops, javnut ^
[12:14] <mitt> fiatjaf: what is the output when you try to install the package?
[12:14] <k69> Hey guys, would u mind helping me with this problem? http://askubuntu.com/questions/576874/broken-package-install-purge-configure-reinstall-apt-get-f-wont-work
[12:15] <BluesKaj> fiatjaf, odd my ca.archive.ubuntu.com repos are shown as situated in the UK , wonder what's going on ,altho they are working ok
[12:17] <johelish> fiatjaf: It looks like a dns error?
[12:18] <BluesKaj> fiatjaf, the br archive traceroute shows correctly herem the last IP is 200.236.31.4
[12:18] <mitt> k69, have tried from software center?
[12:20] <k69> mitt, umm no, but i need to get them from cloud repositories, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9834087/
[12:21] <fiatjaf> 100% [Connecting to ca.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1360:8c01::19)]
[12:21] <fiatjaf> takes forever: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9834093/
[12:22] <mitt> k69, seems like you missing python libraries, do you have packages related to python-2.7 installed?
[12:23] <k69> yeah alot
[12:23] <k69> python-ceilometer
[12:23] <k69> mitt, ^ and more, but it get installed succesfully
[12:23] <mitt> k69, maybe compile what you need from the source?
[12:24] <k69> mitt, how can i do that?
[12:24] <johelish> fiatjaf:
[12:24] <mitt> k69, it will show you what is missing
[12:24] <johelish> fiatjaf: can you wget google.com?
[12:24] <johelish> fiatjaf: Looks like you have a dns error?
[12:24] <mitt> k69, download the sources from their website and compile
[12:25] <k69> mitt, oh ok thanks
[12:25] <mitt> k69, hope you know how to compile
[12:25] <k69> mitt, nop :D ill search ?:D
[12:26] <mitt> for python it's like "python setup.py install", for many others "./configure && make && make install"
[12:26] <ikonia> do not compile python libraries
[12:27] <ikonia> do not blindly do that at all !
[12:27] <ikonia> that is very dangerous and bad advice
[12:27] <mitt> yes, of course, don't compile libraries and use latest versions of software
[12:27] <ikonia> correct - that is very very bad advice
[12:28] <maliboy> guys my gedit closes by itself without any warning very often, I tried to get the logs by starting it from terminal which are at : http://0bin.net/paste/ec7Kvz3kNdsAAGKS#lj14Wyja1Cg404UDWsJq+94JtGCHz+DH9uhCEwsMDqr
[12:28] <mitt> ikonia, he has libs, what's wrong with compiling python apps?
[12:28] <ikonia> because blindly compiling things can cause problems on the system
[12:28] <ikonia> telling people to blindly make && make install is the worst advice possible
[12:29] <octoid> javnut, dug out an old *unfinished* sh script - check verify_xuser() and xmsg() - bear in mind this was for OpenBSD (but the X stuff will be the same), http://paste.ubuntu.com/9834140/
[12:29] <arun> hi guys. which script updates /etc/apt/sources.list after installation completes?
[12:30] <ikonia> arun: ubiquity generates it depending on the static entries and your location
[12:30] <Mrokii> Hello. Has anybody in here successfully installed KDE 5.2 on Ubuntu 14.10? I used the "next"-ppa and it seems that only V5.1.1 is getting installed (at least according to Synaptic).
[12:30] <javnut> octoid: I need to take a break, I've been at this for 5 hours (3 today)
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Mrokii, look in system settings>about
[12:31] <octoid> javnut, np :) basically you need Xauthority!
[12:31] <mitt> KDE 5 is added to repos??
[12:31] <fiatjaf> johelish: yeah
[12:31] <ikonia> no
[12:31] <ikonia> it is in a PPA
[12:31] <fiatjaf> johelish: I can't wget google.com
[12:32] <fiatjaf> johelish: this is odd
[12:32] <arun> ikonia: can't we just remove that ?
[12:32] <ikonia> arun: remove what ?
[12:32] <Mrokii> BluesKaj: I'll take a look, thanks.
[12:32] <fiatjaf> johelish: I don't understand anything
[12:32] <arun> ikonia: I mean make ubiquity not generate it
[12:32] <johelish> fiatjaf: dns error
[12:32] <ikonia> arun: why would you not want that ?
[12:32] <fiatjaf> johelish: but I can access google.com in my browser
[12:32] <johelish> fiatjaf: what does /etc/resolv.conf say?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> not kde 5 , plasma 5 and kf5
[12:33] <hateball> mitt: Plasma5 will be in (default and only) 15.04
[12:33] <johelish> fiatjaf: and /etc/network/interfaces ?
[12:33] <arun> ikonia: cause, it updated other stuffs, I m working on live cds..
[12:33] <ikonia> arun: it updates other stuffs ?? what
[12:33] <ikonia> arun: ubuiquity is used at install time
[12:33] <ikonia> arun: what is the actual problem, you're not making any sense
[12:33] <fiatjaf> nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4
[12:34] <genkgo> I have question on build a package using debuild (Cyrus Sasl). I created a patch to Makefile.in. Imported it with quilt. This patch gets applied during start of debuild. However, it gets overwritten somewhere, and then causes trouble (undefined reference to `crypt')
[12:34] <fiatjaf> auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[12:34] <genkgo> what am i doing wrong?
[12:34] <ikonia> fiatjaf: os this a desktop or a server ?
[12:35] <arun> ikonia: the thing is that, to make you clear.. I am customizing ubuntu's iso ; I want ubiquity not to generate /etc/apt/sources.list and use the one I created before...
[12:35] <mitt> how much ram the fifth plasma eats?
[12:35] <ikonia> arun: that is not ubuquity
[12:35] <ikonia> arun: on a live media they are just a falt file on the squashfs file system
[12:37] <fiatjaf> ikonia: a desktop
[12:37] <maliboy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bug/1390068
[12:37] <maliboy> does anyone know how to fix it ?
[12:37] <ikonia> fiatjaf: then you should not be messing with the interfaces file or resolv.conf - as network manager will control that and dnsmasq is your resolver
[12:38] <arun> ikonia: are u sure its not ubiquity that generates a new sources.list after installation complete?
[12:38] <ikonia> arun: you just said it was not an installation it was live media !
[12:39] <BluesKaj> maliboy, ask in #linuxmint
[12:39] <ikonia> arun: you first asked for an install - what generates it, I told you it was unbiquity, you then said it was live media, I told you it's static, you now say it's an install again ?
[12:39] <maliboy> BlueShark, it is happening in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[12:39] <maliboy> BluesKaj, ^
[12:39] <maliboy> I just pointed out the error to you
[12:40] <arun> ikonia: no no, I mean I am customizing the iso.... I want ubiquity not to generate sources.list, how to do that?
[12:40] <ikonia> arun: I'm clear what you are doing, you keep swapping between an install and live media,
[12:41] <arun> ikonia: yeah
[12:41] <ikonia> sorry, I'm not clear what you are doing
[12:41] <arun> I don't want sources.list overwritted by ubquity
[12:41] <ikonia> so I'm going to step out of the discussion
[12:41] <BluesKaj> maliboy, my mistake...sorry i don't use gedit
[12:41] <arun> ikonia: did u get it bro ?
[12:42] <fiatjaf> ikonia: I am not
[12:43] <maliboy> BluesKaj, ok but that is not the reply to it
[12:44] <ikonia> fiatjaf maybe I'm miss-reading then, as it looks like you're checking the interfaces file and resolv.conf
[12:44] <ikonia> arun: I'm stepping away from this
[12:45] <BluesKaj> maliboy,` my reply to you is I don't know how to help with your yssue
[12:45] <BluesKaj> err issue
[12:47] <maliboy> BluesKaj, not uncommon
[12:48] <BluesKaj> maliboy, because I run kde desktop, very little experience with gedit
[12:48] <fiatjaf> ikonia: just because I was asked to, but I'm not changing them or planning to, and I haven't edited them recently
[12:49] <maliboy> BluesKaj, if I install KDE can I completely remove gnome ?
[12:49] <maliboy> BluesKaj, is KDE stable ?
[12:49] <fiatjaf> johelish: did you manage to solve the problem somehow?
[12:49] <fiatjaf> johelish: I'm thinking about using a proxy
[12:49] <BluesKaj> maliboy, yes it is , especially on 14.10
[12:49] <fiatjaf> but it is a stupid solution.
[12:50] <johelish> fiatjaf: tried rebooting the system?
[12:50] <johelish> nothing wrong with ur config
[12:50] <maliboy> BluesKaj, ok, thanks a lot
[12:52] <fiatjaf> johelish: yes, I tried
[12:52] <fiatjaf> johelish: did you manage to install packages?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> maliboy, http://askubuntu.com/questions/50892/installing-kde-alongside-gnome
[12:53] <ikonia> fiatjaf: the settings in there look wrong though, eg: your resolv.conf should not contain a dns server, it should contain 127.0.0.1 and be using dnsmasq
[12:54] <maliboy> BluesKaj, I would do a net install
[12:54] <maliboy> thanks
[13:06] <uber_hulk> Hi all. How do I solve this issue https://bpaste.net/show/0e5176b2c227
[13:06] <luka__> When I had windows I used lenovo energy managment and set the battery to charge up to 60% only as it recommended it to me. Yesterday I switched to Ubuntu and now I have this problem. It would be great if I could fix this without installing windows again.
[13:06] <OerHeks> uber_hulk, did you run sudo ap-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade before installing?
[13:07] <uber_hulk> OerHeks: yes I did update but not upgrade I guess
[13:07] <OerHeks> might do the trick
[13:07] <luka__> Can someone help me with my problem maybe? http://askubuntu.com/questions/576775/lenovo-g500-on-ubuntu-battery-wont-charge-over-59
[13:08] <uber_hulk> OerHeks: okay diong again
[13:09] <lesshaste> can mediatomb server video to a TV that needs a DLNA server?  I find the docs very unclear about this
[13:09] <BluesKaj> luka__, I have a lenovo laptop, I don't recall seeing running the battery at only 60% , I've had kubuntu on the laptop for ober a yr without any problems
[13:09] <BluesKaj> ober=over
[13:11] <BluesKaj> wow, bad internet or expects instant gratification
[13:13] <uber_hulk> OerHeks: didn't work for me
[13:14] <uber_hulk> OerHeks: any otther work around?
[13:14] <noobuntu> Is there a way I can permanently delete the XFCE Power Manager? I hate having two battery symbols in my taskbar
[13:15] <noobuntu> On Xubuntu
[13:17] <uber_hulk> Drone`: you there?
[13:17] <uber_hulk> can you please have a look at https://bpaste.net/show/0e5176b2c227
[13:17] <uber_hulk> how do I solve this issue?
[13:17] <uber_hulk> There is nothing much on google on how to solve it
[13:18] <Fleetflame> BluesKaj: heh, I was just about to chime in too when I saw he'd quit
[13:19] <Mrokii> BluesKaj: Hello again. I've had some problems with the system but now checked the KDE-version as you suggested. The "about"-Window says "KDE Plasma Version 5.1.1", instead of "5.2". Not sure what I could do, as the on the web it's said that the "next" ppa has the 5.2 version. :-/
[13:20] <DalekSec> noobuntu: You can remove the xfpm panel plugin, or  apt-get purge indicator-power
[13:28] <TallTim772> Hey I am a newbie about loading Wine on Ubuntu any1 help....?
[13:28] <Lachezar> Hey all. I bought a Bluetooth Stereo Headphones with a mic (Philips SHB5500). I managed to get output via pulseaudio to work (needed to install a module), but it only works if the headset is conencted as A2DP. Connecting as a headset I get no audio out, and no audio in (the headphones have a mic). The headphones work out-of-the-box with my Android phone. What am I missing?
[13:28] <trijntje> TallTim772: what do you want to do with wine? Its not a program you run by itself, you use it to run other programs
[13:29] <SchrodingersScat> !wine | TallTim772
[13:29] <SchrodingersScat> TallTim772: but otherwise we need a little more to go on, what are you trying to do, what isn't working, what have you tried, etc.
[13:33] <TallTim772> Just wanted to play a few windows games and some1 told me that I needed Wine in order to play
[13:34] <SchrodingersScat> TallTim772: those links should be a good start then.
[13:34] <cfhowlett> TallTim772, try this: open a terminal: sudo apt-get install wine
[13:35] <danny__> rsync doesnt seem to have an option to only overwrite if the source file is larger. is there an option like that for anything like 'cp' or something?
[13:37] <TallTim772> cfhowlett....I got this....Reading state information... Done
[13:37] <TallTim772> wine is already the newest version.
[13:37] <TallTim772> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[13:37] <TallTim772>  
[13:37] <Lachezar> TallTim772: you have WINE installed then.
[13:38] <Lachezar> TallTim772: in the same window type: wine /path/to/whatever.exe
[13:38] <TallTim772> Yeah my dad is trying to help me but he says he only did BitchX way back in the old days
[13:40] <TallTim772> Ah ok ok i see thanks for the help
[13:40] <SchrodingersScat> TallTim772: it's also normally a good idea to check out the winehq database, it will often have specific instructions per software.
[13:41] <danny__> rsync doesnt seem to have an option to only overwrite if the source file is larger. is there an option like that for anything like 'cp' or something?
[13:48] <tigger_england> Hi, my Putty has suddenly failed to login using ssh keys, but can login using ssh keys via terminal, any ideas?
[13:48] <przemek1a> How to check what are the permissions on the / tmp directory and explain
[13:48] <przemek1a> why the sticky bit is set?
[13:49] <zertyui> hi there
[13:50] <zertyui> i try to mount nfs filesystem
[13:50] <Lachezar> przemek1a: ls -ld /tmp
[13:50] <zertyui> this is the message i got :
[13:51] <OerHeks> przemek1a, answered here > http://askubuntu.com/questions/432699/what-is-the-sticky-bit-t-permission-and-why-does-tmp-have-it
[13:52] <zertyui> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9834994/
[13:52] <zertyui> normale
[13:52] <zertyui> ?
[13:53] <przemek1a> How to archive and compress with bzip2 compression entire directory
[13:54] <OerHeks> przemek1a, use the -r recursive option
[13:55] <EchoNight> how do i dim the brightness in latest ubuntu? the brightness slider in brightness&lock doesn't show.
[13:57] <zertyui> is that normal ?
[13:57] <zertyui> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9834994/
[13:58] <przemek1a> How to check if your system is running processes that
[13:58] <przemek1a> have been running with root privileges is what the command
[13:59] <SchrodingersScat> ps aux | grep root #??
[14:02] <SneakyTurtle> Hello
[14:04] <SneakyTurtle> Hi can someone help me please, yesterday i installed ubuntu 14 in my desktop, so i am now running dual boot (windows 8 + ubuntu) and i just can't find my home wireless internet, i dont know, i can find my neighbours but i can't find mine, please help me
[14:05] <SchrodingersScat> SneakyTurtle: that's odd, is your SSID hidden?
[14:06] <SneakyTurtle> How can i check if my SSID is hidden?
[14:06] <SneakyTurtle> I can use my internet in windows 8 but i can't find it in ubuntu
[14:06] <SchrodingersScat> SneakyTurtle: you'd probably know from connecting other devices, normally a setting you would activate on the router.
[14:06] <SchrodingersScat> ok, nvm
[14:06] <przemek1a> How to Check How many software packages installed in your
[14:06] <przemek1a> operating system? What command
[14:07] <SneakyTurtle> Schrodinger, can you please help me out? :S
[14:07] <SchrodingersScat> SneakyTurtle: I'm not sure where to start really, if you weren't getting anything then I would direct you to !broadcom, but if you're getting other routers in the area then I don't think it's a driver issue?
[14:08] <SneakyTurtle> It's not a driver issue
[14:08] <SneakyTurtle> I think
[14:08] <SneakyTurtle> It's really weird, i can find SOME of my neighbours internet but i cant find mine
[14:09] <przemek1a> How to Check How many software packages installed in your
[14:09] <przemek1a> operating system? What command
[14:09] <hroi> hi
[14:09] <hroi> anyone familiar with incrontab under ubuntu
[14:10] <hroi> its kinda not working out of the box for me...
[14:10] <hroi> I have this line. "/home/hroi/tmp IN_CLOSE_WRITE /home/hroi/bin/foo  $#"
[14:10] <cfhowlett> przemek1a, synaptic package manager >>> All >>> Installed >>> bottom of the box will display the package count
[14:10] <bobbobbins> hey, I’m trying to get something to run at startup, and i have it added to rc-d, and I can see the file in /etc/init.d, its executable and owned by root, but when I try to start the service it says no such file or directory. Any idea why?
[14:11] <cfhowlett> przemek1a, synaptic package manager >>> Status >>> All >>> Installed >>> bottom of the box will display the package count
[14:11] <przemek1a> How to Check How many software packages installed in your
[14:11] <przemek1a> operating system? What command
[14:11] <cfhowlett> przemek1a, synaptic package manager >>> Status >>> All >>> Installed >>> bottom of the box will display the package count
[14:12] <cfhowlett> przemek1a, READ ! synaptic package manager >>> Status >>> All >>> Installed >>> bottom of the box will display the package count
[14:12] <cfhowlett> przemek1a, or run this command in a terminal     grep '^Package: ' /var/lib/apt/lists/*_Sources | wc -l
[14:16] <bobbobbins> nevermind, i got it…carraige return in the file
[14:18] <Fohlen> anyone in here has expierence with Acer Aspire? I got a 5750G around and it doesn't display after loading the installation-boot-screen (14.04)
[14:18] <Fohlen> it shows the mouse n stuff but not the desktop environment
[14:18] <Fohlen> might be a problem with the 2 inbuilt graphic cards, I thought
[14:18] <Fohlen> so it's basically working, booting etc, but fails on the display part
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Fohlen, make oner of the gpus default in the BIOS or UEFI whatever your machine uses
[14:20] <hroi> hi
[14:20] <hroi> sorry dropped out
[14:20] <hroi> is there an irc chanel for ubuntu-server?
[14:20] <hroi> for server admin related questions
[14:20] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu-server | hroi
[14:20] <cfhowlett> !server | HRJ
[14:21] <hroi> cheers
[14:21] <EdwardIII> huh, the php5-fpm package doesn't actually install a php binary you can use on the cli? you really have to hav php-cli?
[14:22] <Fohlen> BluesKaj: what graphic driver will be needed to use 2 integrated graphic cards later on? I remember some special project, but can't come up with the name
[14:22] <NoImNotNineVolt> EdwardIII: considering fpm stands for FastCGI Process Manager, i'm not surprised.
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Fohlen, optimus ?
[14:23] <Fohlen> exactly that, ty
[14:23] <Fohlen> :)
[14:23] <BluesKaj> nvidia and intel gpus , Fohlen ?
[14:23] <EdwardIII> NoImNotNineVolt: i just kind of imagined it'd need to normal php binary somewhere under the hood
[14:23] <Fohlen> yes
[14:23] <Fohlen> BluesKaj: switching to integrated GPU mode now gives some output
[14:23] <Fohlen> :)
[14:24] <EchoNight> how do i dim the brightness in latest ubuntu? the brightness slider in brightness&lock doesn't show.
[14:24] <BluesKaj> !nvidia-prime
[14:25] <cfhowlett> !nvidia | Fohlen
[14:26] <NoImNotNineVolt> matrox still exists?
[14:26] <NoImNotNineVolt> i used to be the proud owner of a matrox mystique. that was before 3dfx's voodoo2.
[14:26]  * NoImNotNineVolt reminisces
[14:27] <foo3bar> 3cr23c
[14:27] <EdwardIII> i had 3dfx voodoo2. it was the bizzle
[14:27] <cfhowlett> Fohlen, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9835356/       for ino
[14:27] <NoImNotNineVolt> i had a second one and ran them in SLI :)
[14:27] <EdwardIII> you were living in the future
[14:28] <NoImNotNineVolt> i felt pretty boss beta testing everquest :P
[14:28] <uber_hulk> uber_hulk> hi
[14:28] <uber_hulk> 7:54 PM <uber_hulk> any solution to this https://bpaste.net/show/7acf36e33808 ?
[14:28] <OerHeks> uber_hulk, on what ubuntu version?
[14:29] <EchoNight> how do i dim the brightness in latest ubuntu? the brightness slider in brightness&lock doesn't show.
[14:29] <deller> hey, sorry for bothering, but does someone know of a good network programming IRC channel?
[14:29] <uber_hulk> Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[14:29] <uber_hulk> OerHeks: ^
[14:29] <EdwardIII> ##networking ?
[14:30] <OerHeks> uber_hulk, oh, not the awesome error.. what did you do to get that message?
[14:30] <deller> thanks, ill try ##networking
[14:30] <EchoNight> a little help here would be nice
[14:31] <uber_hulk> OerHeks: .xsessions-error
[14:31] <cfhowlett> !patience | EchoNight
[14:34] <OerHeks> uber_hulk, you should give more info
[14:34] <OerHeks> !details
[14:34] <BluesKaj> Fohlen, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/using-nvidia-graphics-drivers-with.html , a bit outdated but the instructions should work
[14:35] <Fohlen> great, thank you very much (:
[14:35] <uber_hulk> OerHeks: okay let me reproduce and see what exactly I did
[14:47] <lucidguy> wtf .. I can't seem to get a PDF with color to print in black and white.  Using a Xerox workcentre.  Printer via PPD or their own PrinterManager software, same results.  You can select greyscale but always comes out in colour, anyone ever encounter this?
[14:48] <sbn314159> Hello.  I am having a problem with aptitude when trying to contact IPv6 addresses — it appears that the servers are unreachable.
[14:50] <sbn314159> For example: Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::14)  That doesn’t complete.
[14:51] <sbn314159> I feel that questions about ubuntu.com servers ought to be in a different chat room, but I don’t know which one.
[14:51] <cfhowlett> !server | sbn314159
[14:52] <cfhowlett> sbn314159, wait, no.  ignore that.
[14:52] <cfhowlett> sbn314159, you can search with this: /msg alis list SearchTermHere
[14:52] <sfdebug> does anyone here uses Terra Terminal?
[14:54] <Pici> sbn314159: #canonical-sysadmin would be the place to report it... Per the history there, it looks like at least one other person has reported an issue with that in the past ~12 hours or so.
[14:54] <Pici> sbn314159: sorry, looks like 24-48 hours.
[14:55] <sbn314159> Pici: thanks
[14:55] <StephanieRaymond> I was trying to install play on linux and the software centre went gray and the progress bar isnt going up anymore what should  i do?
[14:56] <NoImNotNineVolt> play on linux?
[14:56] <StephanieRaymond> it came up when i searched for wine so im guessing its for windows apps
[14:57] <NoImNotNineVolt> oh no.
[14:57] <NoImNotNineVolt> it's a ubuntuized wine.
[14:57]  * NoImNotNineVolt facepalms
[14:58] <StephanieRaymond> either way its frozen or something and i dont know how to fix it :(
[14:58] <NoImNotNineVolt> i take it you're not very comfortable using the command line?
[14:58] <StephanieRaymond> just installed last night and went to sleep i have no idea on anything lol
[14:58] <NoImNotNineVolt> ah, i see :)
[14:59] <bottazzini> Guys, everytime I plug two monitors on ubuntu I get my smaller monitor inside my bigger monitor in (Displays)
[14:59] <StephanieRaymond> is it dangerous if i try to hit quit on it?
[14:59] <NoImNotNineVolt> i might be too nerdy to help you. i haven't used software center in ages and don't really know my way around the gui parts of ubuntu
[14:59] <NoImNotNineVolt> no, it should be fine.
[14:59] <bottazzini> I can't put them side by side and the screen gets stretched...
[14:59] <bottazzini> Anyone here has got this problem too?
[15:00] <NoImNotNineVolt> bottazzini: works fine for me.
[15:00] <bottazzini> Have you got Nvidia ?
[15:00] <NoImNotNineVolt> bottazzini: just be glad you're not running debian. that most definitely did not work fine for me :P
[15:00] <NoImNotNineVolt> i'm ati, even worse.
[15:00] <bottazzini> hahaha
[15:00] <bottazzini> haha
[15:00] <bottazzini> lucky guy
[15:00] <NoImNotNineVolt> ati under debian was... wow.
[15:00] <bottazzini> really ?
[15:01] <bottazzini> I was thinking in changing to Debian, actually
[15:01] <bottazzini> What is the ubuntu version you have?
[15:01] <NoImNotNineVolt> 14.10
[15:01] <BluesKaj> ati was fine until amd bought it
[15:01] <NoImNotNineVolt> feel free to try debian, but only if you have excess hair. because you'll be ripping it out soon enough.
[15:02] <bottazzini> hahahah I dunno if I should try it anyway
[15:02] <bottazzini> I do enjoy ubuntu...
[15:02] <bottazzini> but I miss the old times which Ubuntu had Gnome2 :(
[15:04] <theadmin> bottazzini: Get Xubuntu. Xfce is very, very much alike with GNOME 2.
[15:04] <theadmin> More functional, though. There's also Ubuntu MATE, which is Ubuntu with GNOME 2.
[15:05] <bottazzini> theadmin, nice !! I will try this one =D
[15:05] <jiohdi> I have been using mate for a few months now, love it
[15:06] <bottazzini> jiohdi, mate?
[15:06] <jiohdi> anyone know why pulse audio starts up scratchy/crappy and takes a while to clear?
[15:06] <theadmin> bottazzini: MATE is a fork of Gnome 2.
[15:06] <jiohdi> yes, mate is in official repositories and is about the best I have tried so far
[15:06] <MonkeyDust>  msg ubottu find mate
[15:07] <MonkeyDust>  msg ubottu find mate
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> msg ubottu find mate
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> dang
[15:07] <BluesKaj> jiohdi, intel audio ?
[15:07] <bottazzini> haahahah nice
[15:07] <jiohdi> I don't know if I have tried them all, I also like trinity but its not in official
[15:07] <jiohdi> BluesKaj, nvidia I think
[15:07] <jatt> jiohdi: does your sound work correctly without pulseaudio?
[15:08] <jiohdi> jatt, can I tell without uninstalling?
[15:08] <BluesKaj> jiohdi, aplay -l
[15:08] <jatt> jiohdi: or, create an /etc/init/pulseaudio.override file with contents:
[15:08] <jatt> manual
[15:09] <jatt> and restart, to see if everything works without pulseaudio
[15:09] <jatt> it probably will
[15:10] <SchrodingersScat> !info mate-core
[15:10] <jiohdi> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/y2BVfms6
[15:10] <BluesKaj> pulse audio is mainly required for flash on websites, and simultaneous audio sources, otherwise pulseaudio isn't needed
[15:11] <jiohdi> I use google talk as a phone
[15:11] <jiohdi> that is where it seems to mess up the most
[15:11] <NoImNotNineVolt> all this pulseaudio talk is making me want to rant about systemd.
[15:11] <jatt> agreed. for normal use it's completely superfluous. unless you want to mix sources, etc. which 99.999999999% of users don't need to
[15:13] <przemek1a> Does anyone know how to find out which process has the largest burden in terms of system ram
[15:13] <NoImNotNineVolt> top?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> I have a m-audio soundcard that can't link to alsa on wensites, therefore I need pulseaudio ..my laptop has an intel sound chip which works on all sound sources without pulse
[15:13] <k1l_> przemek1a: see top or htop and sort for mem
[15:13] <pbx> przemek1a, System Monitor will tell you
[15:14] <jatt> htop is nice
[15:14] <jiohdi> so you just use alsa?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> jiohdi, on my laptop, yes
[15:17] <jiohdi> is that already on ubuntu or does it need to be added and pulse removed?
[15:19] <sfdebug> does anyone here use Terra Terminal?
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> sfdebug  is that a game?
[15:21] <CHVNX> First time I've heard of it.
[15:21] <CHVNX> Drop down term.
[15:21] <sfdebug> MonkeyDust, no, that is a command terminal...
[15:21] <CHVNX> guake-like
[15:22] <sfdebug> yep
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> sfdebug  what CHVNX says: ubuntu has guake
[15:22] <teward> is there a way in network manager to set a default route, such that Wifi is always superior (in terms of internet route) to Ethernet
[15:22] <lucidguy> Anyone ever try to print a color PDF in black and white.. on a linux system?
[15:22] <sfdebug> i know ubuntu has it
[15:24] <chrisss123456> hey guys, i have a grub problem. i have 2 partitions for recovery, the windows recovery, and a lenovo recovery (on a thinkpad) that dont show up in my boot option. anyone know what gives?
[15:25] <pbx> lucidguy, say specifically what steps you are taking and how the result differs from what you want
[15:25] <BluesKaj> chrisss123456, have you done a grub-update
[15:25] <k1l_> sfdebug: you need a ppa for that
[15:26] <chrisss123456> BluesKaj: i have not. would that just be running grub-update?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> sudo update-grub
[15:26] <BluesKaj> chrisss123456, ^
[15:26] <lucidguy> pbx, I've tried evince and ocular to print a PDF, select black and white or grescale.  Print job always comes out in colour.  My printer is setup via a PPD and I've tried the XeroxPrintManager.  No luck.
[15:27] <DocPlatypus> if I have two filesystems, / and /home, how big should / be under 14.04?
[15:27] <chrisss123456> BluesKaj: ok, so its found all the linux images, and a windows boot manager, but thats normal, and what i've currently got
[15:27] <DocPlatypus> as a realistic minimum
[15:27] <k1l_> sfdebug: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/terra-drop-down-terminal-emulator-with.html
[15:28] <chrisss123456> BluesKaj: but it hasnt found the other two....
[15:28] <NoImNotNineVolt> DocPlatypus: bigger than you'd think.
[15:29] <BluesKaj> chrisss123456, check with gparted to see if those partitions are still valid
[15:29] <DocPlatypus> NoImNotNineVolt: good one. seriously, though... both share a "500 gig" hard drive along with swap. swap I'm not as worried about and /home is nowhere near full
[15:29] <NoImNotNineVolt> ah, that's more than enough.
[15:30] <NoImNotNineVolt> i've made my / very small before, and it bit me in the ass.
[15:30] <DocPlatypus> NoImNotNineVolt: right now / is 24 gigs
[15:30] <NoImNotNineVolt> should be ample.
[15:30] <chrisss123456> BluesKaj: both are so called "hidden, diagnostic" under flags. is that the problem?
[15:30] <DocPlatypus> NoImNotNineVolt: except I'm running out of room right after upgrade to 14.04.
[15:30] <NoImNotNineVolt> and then you can always break /usr onto its own partition if need be
[15:30] <NoImNotNineVolt> oh wow.
[15:30] <sfdebug> k1l_, i already tried it, but, on apt-get update i get: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ozcanesen/terra-terminal/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found AND W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ozcanesen/terra-terminal/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[15:30] <DocPlatypus> NoImNotNineVolt: just to get the upgrade to run, I had to uninstall libreoffice, gimp, inkscape, openarena, and a few other things
[15:31] <DocPlatypus> to be fair it was a great excuse to uninstall all the games I tried to run on this box but ran way too slowly to be playable
[15:31] <k1l_> sfdebug: got no trusty packages
[15:31] <NoImNotNineVolt> cd / ; du --max-depth=1 -h 2>/dev/null | sort -h
[15:31] <BluesKaj> chrisss123456, certainly looks that way, hidden, diagnostic seem to be windows recovery partitions
[15:31] <k1l_> sfdebug: so your program is quite dead. use quake instead
[15:31] <NoImNotNineVolt> DocPlatypus: do that.
[15:32] <sfdebug> k1l_, did you men guake?
[15:32] <k1l_> yes
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> sfdebug  methinks terra terminal is no longer maintained/available
[15:33] <chrisss123456> BluesKaj: oh cool :) i think we're getting somewhere. how do i fix that?
[15:33] <chrisss123456> or, is that even an issue?
[15:33] <NoImNotNineVolt> DocPlatypus: that should give you an idea of what your biggest space hogs are on /, then you can try to break those out onto their own partitions if you need more space on /.
[15:34] <BluesKaj> chrisss123456, i think you can safely ignore those partitions if you plan on using linux more than windows
[15:34] <DocPlatypus> NoImNotNineVolt: I've done that... actually I do something slightly different: du -xh | sort -rh | less
[15:34] <DocPlatypus> -x = stay on same filesystem (otherwise it pulls in /home) and -r = largest at top
[15:34] <steven__> Q: Is it normal to have a bunch of [WARNING] when doing a check with rkhunter? No rootkits were detected. This always happens like a few weeks after having used Ubuntu
[15:35] <NoImNotNineVolt> that's too noisy :P
[15:35] <chrisss123456> BluesKaj: thats the thing... haha my windows has broken for some inexplicable reason, and i'm trying to recover it. all methods have failed, so im trying to use the recovery partition, which is nowhere to be found...
[15:35] <NoImNotNineVolt> although good tip about -x :)
[15:35] <chrisss123456> BluesKaj: so, i need to use the windows recovery partition
[15:35] <erichf> Hello
[15:35] <NoImNotNineVolt> as usual, /lib is my biggest eater on /.
[15:35] <erichf> [09:35:05] $ ruby1.9.1 --version  ruby 1.9.3p484 (2013-11-22 revision 43786) [x86_64-linux]
[15:35] <erichf> How is this possible?
[15:36] <NoImNotNineVolt> and i learned the hard way, you can't really have that mounted anywhere else :P
[15:36] <BluesKaj> chrisss123456, run os-prober , then sudo update-grub
[15:36] <steven__> Is it normal to have a bunch of [WARNING] when doing a check with rkhunter? No rootkits were detected.
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> erichf  how is what possible?
[15:37] <erichf> ruby 1.9.1 is the system version of ruby -- yet its version command gives 1.9.3
[15:37] <BluesKaj> os-prober might find your windows recovery partition, chrisss123456
[15:37] <lordjancso> hi
[15:37] <chrisss123456> BluesKaj: aha! when running os-prober, i only find the windows boot manager
[15:37] <erichf> MonkeyDust^
[15:37] <lordjancso> how can i list on ubuntu 14.04 server which applications start automatically when system starts
[15:37] <lordjancso> ?
[15:37] <EchoNight> i installed brightness indicator and it says 'no backlights were found on your system'
[15:37] <DocPlatypus> I'm also having things show up in the wrong colors in 14.04... my Chromium window bar is always gray now, not blue
[15:37] <chrisss123456> BluesKaj: i remember having this problem with the windows boot manager itself, and someone else on this board was kind enough to help me
[15:37] <chrisss123456> but i forgot :(
[15:38] <EchoNight> anyone know how to fix?
[15:38] <NoImNotNineVolt> lordjancso: immediately after boot, run `ps aux`
[15:38] <k1l_> steven__: rkhunter is not a "virus scanner" but a "what has changed scanner". rkhunter needs a lot more work and knowledge than the "antivirus programs on windows" but is way more efficient if you can use it
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> erichf  apt-cache show ruby shows:    Depends: ruby1.9.1 (>= 1.9.3.194-1)
[15:38] <lordjancso> NoImNotNineVolt and how can i add a program to start automatically?
[15:38] <cfhowlett> steven__, normal.  warnings do not equal rootkit found
[15:38] <BluesKaj> chrisss123456, did you partiton for linux when installing ubuntu?
[15:38] <steven__> So anything I will update will get flagged with a warning because it has changed?
[15:39] <NoImNotNineVolt> lordjancso: that's a much more complicated question.
[15:39] <NoImNotNineVolt> lordjancso: create an upstart script for it.
[15:39] <steven__> Okay. Thanks.
[15:39] <chrisss123456> BluesKaj: My partitions are admittedly kinda stupid.... i initially put 40gb for windows, and 450gb for linux, then realized i needed space for some win apps, and so added 100gb for windows after the linux. so its a windows sandwich with linux filling.
[15:40] <k1l_> steven__: basically yes. its not a "anti virus program for non tech people". you need to know whats up with the system to read the rkhunter output.
[15:40] <DocPlatypus> oy
[15:40] <NoImNotNineVolt> sounds delicious.
[15:41] <BluesKaj> chrisss123456, so where on the disk is the windows boot/mbr?
[15:41] <DocPlatypus> sounds more like a s#$% sandwich to me
[15:41] <saulocastelo> Hi guys, i can't see flash with ubuntu webbrowser oxide, any one can helpme?
[15:42] <chrisss123456> DocPlatypus: i admit, it's retarded. i might completely fix it if i have to. thought it would do  for now though.
[15:42] <chrisss123456> BluesKaj: the windows boot manager is on the windows partition
[15:42] <NoImNotNineVolt> i don't see anything wrong with your partition layout.
[15:42] <Guest27360> as
[15:43] <BluesKaj> chrisss123456, and you say windows won't boot ?
[15:43] <kubanc> Hello, what ubuntu distribution would you prefer for guest... I can see that unity is in a Ubuntu guest a little bit slow...
[15:43] <DocPlatypus> whoa. and I just now realized my network settings icon isn't in my systray
[15:43] <DocPlatypus> how to get it back?
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> saulocastelo  do you have al the required oxide codecs?
[15:43] <k1l_> kubanc: guest?
[15:44] <chrisss123456> BluesKaj: Windows used to not boot, but now thats fixed. someone here helped me a while ago.
[15:44] <saulocastelo> MonkeyDust:: i think so
[15:44] <saulocastelo> i   oxideqt-codecs                                                             - Web browser engine library for Qt (codecs)
[15:44] <kubanc> k1l_, I am running virtualbox on Ubuntu host. And I am running Ubuntu 14.04 in Virtualbox and I can see that unity is slow..
[15:44] <MrSassyPants> ok I'm having nvidia-331 problems. Last time I installed nvidia-331-updates to fix it, but now it seems it can't remove that package, it somehow registers as half-installed now
[15:45] <MrSassyPants> I'm going to assume the nvidia-331 package was fixed in the meantime. How do I properly replace it?
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> kubanc  ubuntu runs faster in vmWare
[15:45] <BluesKaj> chrisss123456, sorry I've obviously lost track of your problem then
[15:45] <kubanc> MonkeyDust, Also if the host is Windows OS?
[15:46] <chrisss123456> BluesKaj: haha thats ok. so basically, i dont have a boot image for my recovery partitions. how do i change that?
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> kubanc  not sure, i have ubuntu 14.10 guest in ubuntu 14.04 host
[15:47] <kubanc> MonkeyDust, Is the unity fast enough?
[15:47] <p0a> Hello I have installed ubuntu on virtualbox. network worked out of the box. Then I removed some stuff and installed lubuntu-desktop and now internet doesn't work anymore
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> kubanc  no, not unity, use xfce, it's faster
[15:47] <saulocastelo> MonkeyDust: do i need anything else?
[15:47] <cfhowlett> !details | kubanc,
[15:47] <p0a> Should I just grab the lubuntu .iso image and install that?
[15:47] <k1l> kubanc: if you want lightweight use Lubuntu
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> saulocastelo  not sure, it's my closest guess
[15:47] <BluesKaj> chrisss123456, i think if you run check on those partitions in gparted , then update grub again they might restore, but I can't be sure
[15:48] <saulocastelo> MonkeyDust: can you see flash with ubuntu webbrowser?
[15:48] <p0a> I guess that's what I'll do, thanks everyone
[15:48] <kubanc> MonkeyDust, I will try xfce and see if it faster...
[15:49] <chrisss1234561> BluesKaj: how do i do that?
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> saulocastelo  trying...
[15:50] <saulocastelo> MonkeyDust: thanks
[15:50] <chrisss1234561> BluesKaj: nevermind i think i understood. apparently its risky, but i assume any damage would occur to those partitions only
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> saulocastelo  seems not
[15:50] <BluesKaj> chrisss1234561, open gparted, right click on said partitions choose "check" in the drop down and apply
[15:50] <saulocastelo> MonkeyDust: :( thanks
[15:51] <chrisss1234561> BluesKaj: got that :)
[15:51] <EchoNight> anyone?
[15:52] <EchoNight> !patience EchoNight
[15:52] <chrisss1234561> BluesKaj: ok, so i've done all that, and update grub only finds what it found before
[15:52] <DocPlatypus> brb
[15:53] <BluesKaj> chrisss1234561, I've never seen the windows hidden partitions on grub after installing linux, iirc
[15:54] <cfhowlett> chrisss1234561, the windows restore partition should not be listed in grub
[15:54] <BluesKaj> they probly show up in windows disk management
[15:54] <chrisss1234561> BluesKaj: oh :( cfhowlett: how do i do it then?
[15:54] <chrisss1234561> BluesKaj: windows disk management is broken though :') thats the thing!
[15:55] <cfhowlett> chrisss1234561, personally, I'd get my windows disk and run windows repair.  that would wipe out grub, but reinstalling grub is caveman easy
[15:55] <chrisss1234561> cfhowlett: windows repair is broken. everything in windows thats system related is broken. only thing that works is chrome and word -.-
[15:56] <BluesKaj> chrisss1234561, which windows ?
[15:56] <cfhowlett> chrisss1234561, word works ... WITHOUT windows?  how do you manage that piece of magic
[15:56] <Radi> hi guys
[15:56] <chrisss1234561> cfhowlett: haha by only working, most things work, but system errors pop up whenever i do anything system related. i.e. i get error messages when running cmd as an admin. BluesKaj, sadly, win8
[15:56] <Radi> i am having touble formatting a usb key to ntfs
[15:57] <Sh3r1ff> !fdisk | Radi
[15:58] <cfhowlett> !usb | Radi
[15:58] <BluesKaj> fwiw chrisss1234561 I dumped W8 in favour of W7 on my laptop , haven't looked back
[15:58] <jhutchins> chrisss1234561: If you run a windows restore process from the original windows installation, it will most likely restore the original partition scheme.  If you installed Linux to a disk that was originally part of Windows' installation, it will destroy that.  (If you're on a seperate disk that was not part of the original you're fine.)
[15:58] <Sh3r1ff> Radi: use fdisk
[15:58] <Radi> Sh3r1ff where to paste fdisk output
[15:58] <Sh3r1ff> Radi: pastebin?
[15:58] <cfhowlett> Radi, fpaste.org
[15:58] <ArshiaAghaei> tomodachi, I'm here.
[15:58] <chrisss1234561> jhutchins: oh damn, thanks for that information. :( that wouldve been a bad surprise
[15:59] <chrisss1234561> BluesKaj: im just holding out to get the win10 update
[15:59] <chrisss1234561> BluesKaj: but yes, i hate it
[16:00] <Radi> Sh3r1ff http://paste.ubuntu.com/9836508/
[16:00] <chrisss1234561> BluesKaj: but i need to fix it first! :(
[16:00] <Radi> its unmountable though
[16:00] <cfhowlett> Radi, sudo mount /devicetargethere
[16:01] <BluesKaj> well chrisss1234561 , I think you may need some #windows chat help
[16:01] <EchoNight> y won't u mofos help meh
[16:01] <ArshiaAghaei> tomodachi, I listened to the reply , but i'm not sure it will work.
[16:01] <Sh3r1ff> Radi: did you run mkfs after creating the partition with fdisk?
[16:01] <cfhowlett> EchoNight, stop that
[16:02] <Radi> cfhowlett, i formatted it with 2 tools, still no luck and cant mount it at all, gparted has a red sign and shows this http://paste.ubuntu.com/9836524/
[16:02] <chrisss1234561> BluesKaj: i was there, and the people here are a lot nicer :) they just told me to get the dvd from the seller
[16:02] <EchoNight> then help meh
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> EchoNight  what's the issue?
[16:02] <cfhowlett> !patience | EchoNight,
[16:02] <BluesKaj> EchoNight, just ask your question
[16:02] <EchoNight> no backlights were found
[16:02] <EchoNight> how to fix?
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> EchoNight  meaning?
[16:03] <EchoNight> i asked this b4
[16:03] <EchoNight> scroll up
[16:03] <Radi> Sh3r1ff i did, but it shows errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/9836559/
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> EchoNight  hit the up arrow to repeat the question
[16:03] <EchoNight> i would do dat, but i quit earlier
[16:03] <cfhowlett> EchoNight, restate it.  scroll doesn't work if he wasn't in the room when you stated it
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> EchoNight  and i just entered
[16:04] <OerHeks> EchoNight, did you search for ubuntu+ your laptop model for simular issues ? we don't even know what laptop you have, how can we answer?
[16:04] <EchoNight> it's a chromebox
[16:04] <EchoNight> not a laptop
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> is that arm?
[16:04] <EchoNight> i think so
[16:04] <OerHeks> EchoNight, chromebox, there is more than one
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> EchoNight  ok, there's also a ubuntu arm channel
[16:04] <EchoNight> asus chromebox
[16:04] <BluesKaj> !attitude | EchoNight
[16:04] <Sh3r1ff> Radi: what were the commands you used?
[16:05] <Radi> Sh3r1ff, first made new partition in cfdisk, then mkntfs /dev/sdb1
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> EchoNight  type /j #ubuntu-arm
[16:05] <EchoNight> but it's intel cpu
[16:05] <Radi> Sh3r1ff, second tool i tried was gparte
[16:06] <OerHeks> there are asus chromebox celeron, i5, i3, maybe arm too...
[16:06] <cfhowlett> Radi, try a different USB
[16:06] <ArshiaAghaei> tomodachi, The reply of that guy MESSED MY WHOLE SYSTEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:06] <Radi> i did
[16:06] <Radi> none works
[16:06] <tomodachi> ArshiaAghaei: what reply?
[16:06] <EchoNight> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220572
[16:06] <Radi> cfhowlett. i tried 3 usb, none works
[16:07] <Radi> cfhowlett, however they can format just fine to fat32
[16:07] <ArshiaAghaei> tomodachi: Reply of Perumal93 in the https://askubuntu.com/questions/576857/unable-to-download-wine-with-software-center-or-terminal
[16:07] <Radi> cfhowlett, ntfs-3g is installed; ntfsprogs isnt
[16:07] <cfhowlett> Radi, this is for a boot usb?
[16:07] <Radi> cfhowlett, yes; for my girlfriend; no windows pc available else i would do it on windows
[16:08] <tomodachi> ArshiaAghaei: hardly messed up your system
[16:09] <tomodachi> ArshiaAghaei: you are clearly unable to  understand all the instructions given to you so be more considerate when people are trying to help you
[16:09] <tomodachi> ArshiaAghaei: you can start by trying to find out exactly WHAT the things people tell you to do actually does
[16:10] <ArshiaAghaei> tomodachi: WHAT CAN I DO NOW ???????????
[16:10] <NoImNotNineVolt> ha
[16:11] <ArshiaAghaei> tomodachi, Can i undo the process ????
[16:11] <tomodachi> ArshiaAghaei: I dont have time to help out, but I recomend that you start by learning more about your system what it does since you clearly very much to learn
[16:11] <OerHeks> EchoNight, never seen a Small Pc with backlight
[16:11] <tomodachi> if you would have made a copy of the file before modifying it you could just have reverted
[16:11] <ArshiaAghaei> I'll try to undo for now...
[16:11] <erichf> Really weird question: I'm on a dell e7440 and my 'w' key is uper sensitive -- I often type 'w' and get 'ww' -- does ubuntu have a way to reduce sensitivity on one key?
[16:12] <OerHeks> erichf, sounds more like dirt in the mechanism that gives you this feature.
[16:13] <erichf> oerheks maybe
[16:13] <tomodachi> ArshiaAghaei: just change to another mirror, and you will be fine, but please for the sake of all of us learn more about your system
[16:13] <NoImNotNineVolt> the debouncing circuit isn't debouncing very well.
[16:13] <ArshiaAghaei> tomodachi: How ???
[16:13] <NoImNotNineVolt> (that's a technical term)
[16:14] <mandh> my var size is 95% i remove auth.log file which has size 27G but still df give same usage
[16:14] <tomodachi> ArshiaAghaei: im sorry but you ask to many super basci questions , WORK IT OUT yourself and when you get stuck ask for help
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> erichf  use a high pressure air duster to clean your keyboard
[16:15] <tomodachi> ArshiaAghaei: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html#research
[16:19] <pietrolis> ciao
[16:19] <pietrolis> !lista
[16:19] <yepla> does proprietary fglrx driver is broken ?
[16:20] <yepla> impossible to install it
[16:21] <DocPlatypus> yepla: quite probably, yes
[16:21] <DocPlatypus> complain to AMD, they are the ones that provide it
[16:21] <OerHeks> yepla, for what ATI card?
[16:21] <evren> hi
[16:21] <DocPlatypus> better yet, next time get an nVidia card and use nouveau
[16:21] <yepla> HD 7950
[16:24] <DocPlatypus> ok so finally I get my indicator tray back if I "pkill indicator"... question is how it's wedging to begin with
[16:24] <DocPlatypus> I know 14.04 can work better than this, I've been running it on two other boxes
[16:27] <ChincePrarming> So where exactly is my wireless key stored on the filesystem?
[16:27] <ChincePrarming> I mean, it has to store my connexion info somewhere right?
[16:28] <OerHeks> in seahorse/keyring i guess
[16:28] <ChincePrarming> OerHeks, ah, it's in the keyring?
[16:29] <ChincePrarming> Yap, looks like it, found it
[16:29] <ArshiaAghaei> Can anyone give me the text of source.list ????
[16:30] <DocPlatypus> ArshiaAghaei: it'll vary depending on what exactly you want to install
[16:30] <OerHeks> depends what version. ubuntu kubuntu 12.04 14.04 14.10
[16:30] <cfhowlett> ArshiaAghaei, yep.  but for what it's worth ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/9836842/
[16:31] <OerHeks> ArshiaAghaei, are you in china and use trusty?
[16:31] <cartwright> o
[16:31] <cfhowlett> ArshiaAghaei, this might be useful   http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[16:32] <ArshiaAghaei> OerHeks: No.
[16:32] <OerHeks> repogen is good, carefull with the extra options
[16:32] <nbusrone> hi , does anyone know how do I set earphone to output audio fully ? The case is I need to press and hold the earphone button to get louder audio.
[16:33] <ArshiaAghaei> cfhowlett: I hope this won't MESS UP WITH MY WHOLE SYSTEM !!!
[16:33] <xangua> ArshiaAghaei: please avoid caps and you still haven't explained what is your end goal
[16:33] <cfhowlett> ArshiaAghaei, if you know what you're doing, it won't.
[16:35] <ArshiaAghaei> xangua: I asked a question in the following link. someone said you should replace all of the .us domains with your country-domain-name but when i done it , my system gone to hell !!!!
[16:36] <OerHeks> always start with cp  /etc/apt/sources.list  /etc/apt/sources.list.old
[16:36] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: type cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:37] <ArshiaAghaei> xangua: Link :https://askubuntu.com/questions/576857/unable-to-download-wine-with-software-center-or-terminal
[16:37] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: What it will do ???
[16:37] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: it will upload your sources list to a pastebin and give you the link
[16:38] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: I hope you're not lying.(Forgive me , i'm a hell of a lot angry from that answer.)
[16:39] <EriC^^> $ echo "i'm not lying" | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:39] <EriC^^> http://termbin.com/028o
[16:39] <nbusrone> Not sure i can explain it well. The earphone which came with a smartphone which support mic or handset , having 4 pole conductor 3.5 mm. Problem is the sound output only output background sound
[16:40] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: I see no result.
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> nbusrone  sure you're in the right channel?
[16:41] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: what are you typing?
[16:41] <EriC^^> cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:41] <nbusrone> MonkeyDust : yeh, using Pulse audio on ubuntu 14.04
[16:41] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: ???
[16:41] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: type that ^^
[16:42] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: I see no result !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> ArshiaAghaei  paste EriC^^ 's line in a terminal
[16:42] <EriC^^> lol, chill out
[16:42] <ArshiaAghaei> MonkeyDust: I DONE IT. BUT NO RESULT !!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:42] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: type ls -l /etc/apt/ | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:43] <OerHeks> looks like no internet then
[16:43] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: Look at the previous massage.
[16:43] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: are you talking from the same pc?
[16:44] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: What are you talking about ????
[16:44] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: What same PC ????
[16:44] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: nevermind
[16:44] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: type the second command, ls -l ...
[16:44] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, same here ... no pastie from that command.
[16:44] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: Wait...
[16:45] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: really?
[16:45] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, copy paste, no joy
[16:45] <EriC^^> weird
[16:45] <EriC^^> cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:45] <EriC^^> http://termbin.com/fogm
[16:45] <OerHeks> here it does http://termbin.com/9qcr
[16:45] <EriC^^> maybe your isp bans termbin.com ?
[16:45] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: What the hell is this ???!!!!
[16:46] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: nothing, chill
[16:46] <EriC^^> deep breaths :P
[16:46] <cfhowlett> ArshiaAghaei, chillax
[16:46] <nbusrone> getting simple , earpod from apple only output background music or vocal only .I need to press and hold the 4th button on the jack
[16:46] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: go to paste.ubuntu.com
[16:46] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: copy and paste cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> ArshiaAghaei  paste this command      sudo apt-get install pastebinit; cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[16:47] <[Relic]> how do I put all currently installed packages into a list in a text file?  (I may need to reinstall today after hardware upgrades)
[16:48] <cfhowlett> [Relic], dpkg -l > installed.txt
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> [Relic]  dpkg -l|grep ii|awk '{print $2}' > ~/Documents/packages
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  kept it easier
[16:49] <ArshiaAghaei> MonkeyDust: I cannot download anything by the Perumal93's favor. He messed up with my whole system.
[16:49] <ArshiaAghaei> MonkeyDust: https://askubuntu.com/users/358411/perumal93
[16:50] <[Relic]> Thanks
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> ArshiaAghaei  what's that?
[16:50] <cfhowlett> ArshiaAghaei, why are you posting that?
[16:51] <OerHeks> !info wine trusty
[16:51] <EriC^^> [Relic]: dpkg --get-selections > /path/to/list
[16:51] <OerHeks> ArshiaAghaei, how did you get wine 1.7 in trusty ?
[16:51] <jhutchins> ArshiaAghaei: Let's be clear on this, you messed up your system by doing something you didn't understand.
[16:52] <ArshiaAghaei> jhutchins: Yes, but it was his fault.
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> ArshiaAghaei  what brings you here?
[16:52] <cfhowlett> ArshiaAghaei, uhhh, no.  you are the administrator of your system.
[16:53] <ArshiaAghaei> cfhowlett: Yes.
[16:53] <cfhowlett> ArshiaAghaei, l;et
[16:53] <cfhowlett> let's move on ...
[16:53] <ArshiaAghaei> MonkeyDust: I need the sources.list code.
[16:53] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: did you upload /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.ubuntu.com ?
[16:54] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: I see no result.
[16:54] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: aha ,  wait.
[16:54] <jhutchins> !wheezy sources.list
[16:54] <jhutchins> Erp, 'scuse.
[16:54] <Pici> #6
[16:54] <cfhowlett> jhutchins, that's not helpful at all
[16:55] <jhutchins> ArshiaAghaei: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources
[16:56] <SchrodingersScat> This is also why !pm exists.
[16:56] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: this is my messed sources.list code : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9837170/
[16:57] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: it looks fine
[16:57] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: type sudo apt-get update
[16:57] <cfhowlett> ArshiaAghaei, ?? looks normal
[16:59] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9837220/
[16:59] <cfhowlett> ArshiaAghaei, might be time to backup and rebuild your sources list ... as was also suggested earlier
[16:59] <cfhowlett> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2061170&p=12253252#post12253252
[16:59] <jhutchins> ArshiaAghaei: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources
[16:59] <uber_hulk> Hi all. while playing around I broke some dependencies and I am seeing this problemm http://askubuntu.com/questions/485999/apt-indicator-errorbrokencount0
[17:00] <OerHeks> there was a google GPG error, and causes these problems.
[17:00] <uber_hulk> I am using xubuntu, any solution?
[17:00] <ArshiaAghaei> jhutchins: I didn't see something useful.
[17:00] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: type sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
[17:00] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: then sudo apt-get update , again please
[17:00] <Pici> Why down we all slow and and pick one person to give suggestions here.
[17:00] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: What it will do ??
[17:00] <btorch> is remaping the interfaces using udevadm no longer possible on precise or trusty ?
[17:01] <btorch> before I used to just use udevadm trigger to change them
[17:01] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: it will remove corrupted files which will be regenerated
[17:01] <btorch> and whatever was on my udev rules for the net would change what the system displayed with ip addr
[17:01] <jhutchins> ArshiaAghaei: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ http://blog.ubuntu-tweak.com/guide/how-to-fix-the-source-list-files https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[17:02] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9837260/
[17:03] <OerHeks> again that google GPG error, and causes these problems.
[17:03] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: type cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* and paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[17:03] <Pici> OerHeks: agreed.. seems that everyone wants to give different suggestions right now though.
[17:04] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: -su: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list: Permission denied
[17:04] <OerHeks> Pici i think EriC^^ is on it
[17:05] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: type ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[17:05] <EriC^^> and paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[17:05] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: command not found
[17:05] <EriC^^> ls ?
[17:06] <EriC^^> ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[17:06] <ArshiaAghaei> total 8
[17:06] <ArshiaAghaei> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 176 Jan 20 18:41 google-chrome.list
[17:06] <ArshiaAghaei> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 124 Jan 15 19:49 meebey-ppa-trusty.list
[17:06] <EriC^^> not here..
[17:06] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: Sorry, it didn't give me a warning
[17:08] <OerHeks> that meebey-ppa has no trusty candidates, so you can remove it safely
[17:11] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* doesn't work?
[17:11] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: NO !
[17:11] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: if it doesn't work, please paste ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d in paste.ubuntu.com
[17:11] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: THE RESULT IS : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9837342/
[17:12] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, root???
[17:13] <OerHeks> EriC^^, what would be wise, locked list and GPG error,  sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf # and run update & upgrade again?
[17:13] <cfhowlett> exactly
[17:14] <EriC^^> OerHeks: sure
[17:14] <TrivialGravitas> Encrypted swap isn't loading on boot up, swapon works fine
[17:14] <uber_hulk> Hi
[17:14] <uber_hulk> How do I solve broken dependencies problem
[17:15] <uber_hulk> BrokenCount > 0
[17:15] <uber_hulk> http://askubuntu.com/questions/485999/apt-indicator-errorbrokencount0
[17:16] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: do you have access to google from your isp?
[17:16] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: Yes
[17:17] <DocPlatypus> TrivialGravitas: to get encrypted swap working reliably, I had to get rid of UUID in favor of using something from /dev/disk/by-id/
[17:17] <DocPlatypus> TrivialGravitas: only catch is if you move partitions around, swap hard drives, etc you need to update at that time too
[17:18] <DocPlatypus> one should not have to do that but apparently that's how to get it to work
[17:18] <uber_hulk> okay how do I get over this issue  package libglib2.0-0:amd64 2.42.1-1 cannot be configured because libglib2.0-0:i386 is at a different version (2.40.0-2)
[17:18] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: Do you know what the problem is????!!!!!
[17:18] <DocPlatypus> uber_hulk: uninstall libglib2.0-0:i386
[17:19] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: type sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[17:19] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: then type sudo apt-get update
[17:19] <NoImNotNineVolt> ...
[17:20] <NoImNotNineVolt> isn't that a bad idea?
[17:20] <cfhowlett> NoImNotNineVolt, standard method of rebuilding a corrupted sources list
[17:20] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: Result of first is : rm: cannot remove ‘/var/lib/apt/lists/partial’: Is a directory
[17:20] <NoImNotNineVolt> ah, ha
[17:21] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: no problem
[17:21] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: also type sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
[17:21] <NoImNotNineVolt> i read that as rm /etc/atp/sources.list.d/* -vf
[17:21] <TrivialGravitas> DocPlatypus, How do i go about doing that?
[17:21] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: The next result is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9837462/
[17:21] <NoImNotNineVolt> my fault :P
[17:21] <jhutchins> ArshiaAghaei: You're really taking serious risks by executing commands from random strangers on irc when you don't understand what those commands are meant to do.
[17:21] <TrivialGravitas> UUID doesn't work after reinstall or drive cloning anyway
[17:22] <NoImNotNineVolt> ArshiaAghaei: do NOT execute the command i typed above :P
[17:22] <jhutchins> ArshiaAghaei: You could very easily make a worse mess of your system than you already have.
[17:22] <jhutchins> ArshiaAghaei: https://ubuntu-manual.org/
[17:22] <jhutchins> ArshiaAghaei: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=801404
[17:22] <ArshiaAghaei> jhutchins: What is he doing ????
[17:22] <ArshiaAghaei> jhutchins: What he have done ???
[17:23] <ArshiaAghaei> jhutchins: What kind of mess ???!!
[17:23] <jhutchins> ArshiaAghaei: There may be nothing wrong with the suggestions, but if you don't understand what they're supposed to do you won't know.
[17:24] <ArshiaAghaei> NoImNotNineVolt: Which one ?????
[17:24] <phrozensilver> I am having some trouble with symlinks, could someone point me in the right direction http://superuser.com/questions/868589/replace-refrenced-files-with-symlink#868589
[17:25] <dgarstang> Testing
[17:25] <dgarstang> Yay
[17:25] <ArshiaAghaei> NoImNotNineVolt: I hope you didn't destroy my entire system...
[17:25] <NoImNotNineVolt> ArshiaAghaei: i only typed one command. do NOT rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[17:25] <NoImNotNineVolt> i didn't destroy anything. i didn't suggest for you to type anything.
[17:25] <SchrodingersScat> dgarstang: you made it
[17:25] <dgarstang> I'm booting EC2 instances here running Ubuntu, and I am setting the hostname via a script that runs on boot. Isn't there a better Ubuntu-ish way?
[17:25] <ArshiaAghaei> NoImNotNineVolt: Well, i think i didn't type it.
[17:25] <NoImNotNineVolt> sudo apt-get update
[17:25] <NoImNotNineVolt> if you can still do that, you're good.
[17:25] <jhutchins> ArshiaAghaei: Nobody here can damage your system - only you can do that.
[17:26] <NoImNotNineVolt> or, if you couldn't do that before, then you're no worse.
[17:27] <NoImNotNineVolt> is it beeroclock yet :\
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> ArshiaAghaei  that's called PEBKAC
[17:27] <NoImNotNineVolt> haven't heard that one in ages.
[17:27] <NoImNotNineVolt> thank you.
[17:27] <jhutchins> !hostname
[17:27] <ArshiaAghaei> NoImNotNineVolt: the result is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9837530/
[17:28] <NoImNotNineVolt> that's good.
[17:28] <ArshiaAghaei> MonkeyDust: What is called PEBKAC ?????
[17:28] <NoImNotNineVolt> or, well, it's no worse than where you were.
[17:29] <NoImNotNineVolt> ArshiaAghaei: ignore him/her, focus on your problem!
[17:29] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: if you type dl.google.com in a browser, do you get a webpage?
[17:29] <NoImNotNineVolt> < EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: type sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[17:29] <NoImNotNineVolt> < EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: then type sudo apt-get update
[17:29] <NoImNotNineVolt> do what EriC^^ told you.
[17:29] <NoImNotNineVolt> (my apologies for derailing the conversation a bit)
[17:31] <georgi> connect irc.del.bg
[17:32] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: Yes
[17:32] <ArshiaAghaei> NoImNotNineVolt: What do you mean ????
[17:33] <ceed^> Finally found a way to get the systray back in Unity
[17:33] <NoImNotNineVolt> i mean i'm sorry for wrongly questioning EriC^^'s advice.
[17:33] <NoImNotNineVolt> ArshiaAghaei: just ignore me.
[17:33] <NoImNotNineVolt> actually, that goes for everyone else as well. just ignore me.
[17:33] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: it seems it's due to the isp or google blocking service to certain countries
[17:34] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: did it used to work?
[17:34] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: What ?? the dl.google.com
[17:34] <ArshiaAghaei> ??
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> ArshiaAghaei  what country are you in?
[17:34] <ArshiaAghaei> MonkeyDust: IR
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> ArshiaAghaei  is that iran?
[17:35] <ArshiaAghaei> MonkeyDust: Yup...
[17:35] <NoImNotNineVolt> !farsi | ArshiaAghaei
[17:35] <alin_> need help
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> ArshiaAghaei  then it may be restrictions due to local politics, that's why you're struggling
[17:36] <NoImNotNineVolt> ArshiaAghaei: you may need to use a proxy.
[17:36] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: i found another person from Iran giving the same error
[17:36] <alin_> on my pc (not this) i cant update or install other apps on my ubuntu 8.10
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> alin_  that's because 8.10 is dead, offline
[17:36] <NoImNotNineVolt> 8.10 predates LTS releases, right? :P
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> alin_  8.10 is no longer maintained or supported
[17:37] <xangua> NoImNotNineVolt: what
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> alin_  or available
[17:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> xangua: can you be more specific with your query?
[17:37] <ArshiaAghaei> NoImNotNineVolt: Is it because of a 403 error (Forbidden) ???
[17:38] <NoImNotNineVolt> ArshiaAghaei: it's because iran implements internet filtering, preventing users from accessing certain sites.
[17:38] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: you might be able to get around it
[17:38] <xangua> ArshiaAghaei: it's because you changed your mirrors to an unexistent "ir" one
[17:38] <NoImNotNineVolt> ArshiaAghaei: one way of solving this problem is by not being in iran (which is probably not a realistic option). another solution is to use a proxy that is located outside of iran.
[17:39] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: type sudo -i 's/ir.archive/archive/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:39] <ArshiaAghaei> NoImNotNineVolt: Hm... You mean that is because of Iran filter system ???? or iran has a forbidden access ???
[17:40]  * NoImNotNineVolt sighs
[17:40] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: then type sudo apt-get update
[17:40] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: -bash: s/ir.archive/archive/g: No such file or directory
[17:40] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: sorry...
[17:40] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: type sudo sed -i 's/ir.archive/archive/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:41] <NoImNotNineVolt> also, ubuntu 8.04 LTS (apparently they DID do LTS back then) reached End of Life on May 9 2013.
[17:41] <NoImNotNineVolt> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2013-March/000168.html
[17:42] <christian_> Im new to this whole linux thing what some things i can do with it?
[17:42] <NoImNotNineVolt> christian_: what do you typically use a computer for?
[17:43] <Fuchs> christian_: the same as you can do with other operating systems. Usually: running various kind of applications, such as web browsers, media players, office applications, games etc.
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> christian_  even social media
[17:43] <christian_> Well yeah i kinda figured that this is just my second machine and i wanted to check out what are some things you can do on linux oppose to windows?
[17:43] <NoImNotNineVolt> things you _can't_ do with linux: run windows-only or mac-only software.
[17:44] <NoImNotNineVolt> (generally speaking)
[17:44] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9837748/
[17:44] <Fuchs> christian_: well, there are various applications available that aren't available for windows, as vice versa
[17:44] <Fuchs> christian_: but in general a computer is a computer, so things are similar
[17:44] <Fuchs> christian_: as most applications are free and you can install them via the package management (see that as some sort of app store): feel free to try out some
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> !manual | christian_
[17:45] <NoImNotNineVolt> if you're into PC gaming, linux is (in almost all cases) not as nice as windows, as most AAA releases target only windows (and maaaybe apple), but very rarely linux.
[17:45] <NoImNotNineVolt> that's really the biggest shortcoming for most people, i'd imagine.
[17:45] <christian_> Yeah thats why i only put it on my second machine
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> "it's not the OS, it's the apps"
[17:46] <NoImNotNineVolt> in that case, you can do pretty much everything else. without having to worry as much about malware.
[17:46] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: Did you see the result of apt-get update
[17:46] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: yes
[17:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> (most malware, much like most games, targets windows (and maaaybe apple), for the same reason: that's what most people use)
[17:48] <christian_> Yeah i understand just did not know if there was any flashy things Linux could do besides the basics
[17:48] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: So???
[17:48] <NoImNotNineVolt> oh well yea. definitely.
[17:48] <NoImNotNineVolt> but that's not really of concern to most users.
[17:48] <NoImNotNineVolt> if you're a software developer, linux is generally way more awesome than windows, for example.
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> christian_  define "flashy"
[17:48] <christian_> Flashy anything that is not usual haha
[17:48] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: if you want you can remove the google ppa
[17:48] <NoImNotNineVolt> or if you're one of "those people", you can heavily customize linux...
[17:49] <NoImNotNineVolt> and make your desktop environment look very "flashy", for lack of better words.
[17:49] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: you won't get chrome and google talk-plugin etc. updates
[17:49] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: but apt-get update will work
[17:49] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: How ??? And what is google ppa ???
[17:49] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: That is a risk.
[17:49] <christian_> Wait how do i customize linux thats not what i was talking about but that sounds cool too
[17:50] <NoImNotNineVolt> https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+desktop+screenshots
[17:50] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: i guess you can try to see how you can use a proxy with apt
[17:50] <NoImNotNineVolt> christian_: see. you can make it look... different.
[17:50] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: But i cannot download anything by that mistake.
[17:50] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: what do you mean?
[17:51] <christian_> give me one sec looking for something
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> christian_  what "unusual" things do you do with windows or mac?
[17:51] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: Did you remeber i said someone said to me that i must edit the sources.list
[17:52] <ArshiaAghaei> ArshiaAghaei: That was a mistake
[17:52] <ArshiaAghaei> ArshiaAghaei ----> EriC^^
[17:52] <NoImNotNineVolt> brief aside: so i went to install emacs24 on a mostly-fresh ubuntu... and...
[17:52] <NoImNotNineVolt> 103MB?!
[17:53] <xangua> some people say emacs is an OS
[17:53] <NoImNotNineVolt> yea, but it could use a good editor.
[17:53] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: yes
[17:54] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: I edited. That's what we're talking about.
[17:54] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: try to open the dash, type software, click on software & updates, then try to select a different server and press reload
[17:54] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: ok, so after you edited this error started?
[17:54] <ferth> Hello there, has anyone the backup software UrBackup installed in Ubuntu? If so, do you know is it possible to upgrade in place just by sudo apt-get??
[17:55] <NoImNotNineVolt> protip - always save a backup of a configuration file before you make changes.
[17:55] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: Yup...
[17:55] <NoImNotNineVolt> UrBackup? there's a hammurabi joke in there somewhere.
[17:55] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: ok, try to open the dash and do the rest..
[17:55] <ferth> hammurabi? I don't even know what hammurabi is??
[17:55] <ferth> :-)
[17:56] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: How to change the server ???
[17:56] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: click on the arrow and change the server
[17:56] <NoImNotNineVolt> ferth: he was the ruler of babylon. known for hammurabi's code (eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, etc.)
[17:57] <NoImNotNineVolt> though Ur was a sumerian city-state, not babylonian.
[17:57]  * NoImNotNineVolt shrugs
[17:57] <NegativeFlare> !offtopic
[17:58] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: I don't see Iran on the servers. should i choose another server what didn't lock outed Iran ????
[17:58] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: yes, try the main server
[17:58] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: ok.
[17:59] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: Failed to download repository information
[17:59] <ArshiaAghaei> Check your Internet connection.
[17:59] <ArshiaAghaei> Sory
[18:00] <Genesis_> hello
[18:00] <ArshiaAghaei> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9837970/
[18:00] <Genesis_> I am trying to setup a crontab to (on restart) start a screen, and execute a command.
[18:00] <ferth> really? hammurabi rules !! :-)
[18:01] <Genesis_> @reboot /usr/bin/screen -dmS Factions /home/vnfc1/Factions/start.sh isn't working
[18:01] <Genesis_> any idea why?
[18:01] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9837970/
[18:02] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: ok, do you have a proxy?
[18:02] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: Nope
[18:04] <master> hi there
[18:05] <jpds> Genesis_: Don't you can use screen like that.
[18:05] <Genesis_> jpds, how could I use a screen?
[18:05] <jpds> Genesis_: Does the script really have to run in screen?
[18:05] <Genesis_> jpds, yes it would be very helpful if it did.
[18:05] <jpds> Genesis_: Why?
[18:05] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: Which proxy is good. i don't see hotspot shield for gnu-Linux
[18:06] <ArshiaAghaei> . ----> ??
[18:06] <Genesis_> jpds, in order for me to execute commands and interact with the script.
[18:06] <jpds> Genesis_: When you're rebooting?
[18:06] <Genesis_> yes, after reboot.
[18:06] <Guest78820> hello?
[18:06] <Genesis_> if the server crashes, or reboots, or whatever, this script should execute when the machine is back up jpds
[18:07] <jpds> Genesis_: OK, and what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[18:07] <Genesis_> jpds, when the server starts up, create a screen called "Factions" and within that screen, execute start.sh
[18:08] <jpds> Genesis_: I know that bit.
[18:08] <Guest78820> Hi, i want to uninstall Ubuntu from a dual boot but can not remember partition i installed it on?
[18:08] <Genesis_> jpds, that is all I want to do.
[18:08] <jpds> Genesis_: What's start.sh suppose to do?
[18:08] <Genesis_> it starts a minecraft server.
[18:08] <jpds> Genesis_: Oh, in that case, why don't you just create an start-up job to run Minecraft?
[18:08] <jhutchins> Genesis_: FINALLY - you're trying to launch a minecraft server at startup!
[18:08] <jpds> Genesis_: http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Tutorials/Ubuntu_startup_script
[18:08] <Genesis_> jpds, because i want it in a screen
[18:09] <Guest78820> Hi, i want to uninstall Ubuntu from a dual boot but can not  remember partition i installed it on?
[18:09] <Guest78820> Hi, i want to uninstall Ubuntu from a dual boot but can not  remember partition i installed it on?
[18:09] <jpds> Genesis_: Can't you run commands from within the game?
[18:10] <jpds> !repeat | Genesis_
[18:10] <jpds> Sorry, that was for Guest78820.
[18:10] <jhutchins> Genesis_: http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Tutorials/Server_startup_script http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Tutorials/Ubuntu_startup_script http://askubuntu.com/questions/474878/how-to-create-a-startup-script-for-minecraft http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/44903/how-to-start-a-script-file-on-boot
[18:10] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: i tried to create own on a free shell i have
[18:11] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: i'll pm you it
[18:11] <jpds> Genesis_: http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Commands
[18:11] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: ?? do you mean private of pm ???
[18:11] <Genesis_> jpds, thanks
[18:15] <ubuntu066> help
[18:16] <NegativeFlare> !ask | ubuntu066
[18:16] <ubuntu066> help
[18:17] <NoImNotNineVolt> help
[18:17] <NegativeFlare> If you need help, just ask -_-
[18:17] <ubuntu066> anyone active?
[18:18]  * NoImNotNineVolt facepalms
[18:18] <NegativeFlare> ubuntu066: If you're here to troll, go ahead and leave. I've already told asked you to explain what you need help with.
[18:18] <Genesis_> so why would ubuntu have issues running a .sh file?
[18:18] <NegativeFlare> Genesis_: depends on how you run it
[18:18] <Genesis_> whenever I run ./start.sh it tells me it can't find the file.
[18:18] <christian_> is there a way to open up a private chat with people through this?
[18:18] <Genesis_> yet its there
[18:18] <NoImNotNineVolt> Genesis_: the file doesn't have the execute permission bit set.
[18:18] <NegativeFlare> Genesis_: bash <filename.sh>
[18:18] <NoImNotNineVolt> oh.
[18:19] <NoImNotNineVolt> perhaps the shebang line is wrong?
[18:19] <NegativeFlare> christian_: /query nickname
[18:19] <Genesis_> NoImNotNineVolt, I gave it 777.
[18:19] <NoImNotNineVolt> Genesis_: what does the first line of the script say?
[18:19] <ubuntu066> how to set eclipse to its default settings?
[18:19] <Genesis_> #!/bin/bash
[18:19] <ubuntu066> eclipse an app
[18:19] <Genesis_> NoImNotNineVolt, I should be able to run it using ./start.sh
[18:20] <NoImNotNineVolt> Genesis_: yes, if the shebang line is correct.
[18:20] <Genesis_> NoImNotNineVolt, If i run bash start.sh it works fine.
[18:20] <NoImNotNineVolt> if you type `which bash` in a terminal, is the output "/bin/bash"?
[18:20] <Genesis_> but not ./start.sh
[18:20] <Genesis_> its weird because a different .sh file with the same thing works fine
[18:20] <Genesis_> NoImNotNineVolt, yes the output is /bin/bash
[18:20] <NoImNotNineVolt> under ubuntu, it should be.
[18:21] <ubuntu066> how to set eclipse to its factory settings
[18:21] <NoImNotNineVolt> that's odd. i'm sorry, but i doubt i can help you :\
[18:21] <ubuntu066> how to set an app to its factory settings?
[18:21] <jhutchins> Genesis_: Why not check out one or more of those links I posted rather than trying to re-invent the wheel?  There are tried-and-true methods to do this.
[18:21] <NegativeFlare> ubuntu066: if no one answers you, you don't need to repeat yourself.
[18:22] <NegativeFlare> ubuntu066: also try rm -Rv ~/.eclipse
[18:22] <NegativeFlare> That removes the config files for the entire IDE
[18:22] <Genesis_> jhutchins, I need it in a screen.
[18:22] <NegativeFlare> Genesis_: did you try using it with bash? Like this: bash <filename>
[18:23] <Genesis_> NegativeFlare, yes, that works fine.
[18:23] <TingelTangelTom> @Undecim Hello
[18:23] <NegativeFlare> Genesis_: Then just use that?
[18:23] <Genesis_> NegativeFlare, there should be no reason to.
[18:23] <NegativeFlare> Actually, there is. Some scripts act retarded to bash when you try to run them. Unless you tell bash yourself to run it with itself o_o If that makes sense.
[18:24] <diranged> Does the Ubuntu team produce their own Virtualbox OVF images and share them anywhere?
[18:24] <NegativeFlare> diranged: Not that I know of.
[18:24] <TingelTangelTom> @undecim I change some Settings in the Server menu, then i restart the server but he crashed
[18:24] <john_doe_jr> I'm getting the following error message when attempting to mount a nfs share…any ideas?  "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting"
[18:26] <jaron-michael> hi
[18:26] <TingelTangelTom> @undecim Are you Busy now?
[18:26] <NegativeFlare> TingelTangelTom: I'm not sure you're highlighting him correctly.
[18:27] <NegativeFlare> You don't put an @ sign when you highlight someone.
[18:27] <TingelTangelTom> Ok, where is my error?
[18:27] <NegativeFlare> Repeat: You don't put an @ sign when you highlight someone.
[18:27] <TingelTangelTom> Ok...
[18:27] <TingelTangelTom> name and space is enough?
[18:28] <NegativeFlare> TingelTangelTom:
[18:28] <NegativeFlare> That's how you highlight someone :P
[18:28] <NegativeFlare> Basic IRC
[18:28] <mgaranito> hi, how to change resolution to 800x480 on 7" display
[18:29] <NegativeFlare> !resolution | mgaranito
[18:29] <TingelTangelTom> Yeah i am start with IRC, Thx for your correction
[18:29] <TingelTangelTom> undecim: So next try :)
[18:29] <mgaranito> tks
[18:30] <NegativeFlare> no problem.
[18:30] <SchrodingersScat> !tab | TingelTangelTom, tabs are easiest.
[18:30] <jiertoi> hi
[18:31] <jaron-michael> how to add a "Swap partition" after install???.
[18:31] <john_doe_jr> I'm getting the following error message when attempting to mount a nfs share…any ideas?  "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting"
[18:31] <NegativeFlare> !swap | jaron-michael
[18:32] <TingelTangelTom> !tab | undecim Thatś easier?! Hmm...
[18:32] <OerHeks> john_doe_jr, can you give us more info ? what comand did you use to mount etc ?
[18:33] <TingelTangelTom> I think i doesnt understand it... >noob<
[18:33] <john_doe_jr> OerHeks: I added the entry to the fstab and did a mount -a
[18:34] <teward> which version of Ubuntu has a gcc/g++ compiler with C++11 or newer in it by default (gcc-4.7/g++-4.7 or newer)
[18:34] <teward> if any
[18:34] <OerHeks> !info gcc trusty
[18:40] <Genesis_> what is wrong with this crontab: @reboot 'bash /home/vnfc1/scripts/startminecraft.sh'
[18:41] <genii> Genesis_: Might want full bash path there
[18:41] <Genesis_> oh shitr you are right
[18:41] <Genesis_> genii, do I need the ' '?
[18:41] <arun_> hello every one
[18:42] <john_doe_jr> Where would I see the error logs for mounting errors associated w/ ntfs?
[18:43] <quatrox> Genesis_: you do not need 'bash'  there at all if you use the hash bang
[18:43] <Genesis_> quatrox, I do, I tried it with the bash bang.
[18:43] <Genesis_> anyways running /bin/bash /home/vnfc1/scripts/startminecraft.sh works 100% fine
[18:43] <Genesis_> but for w/e reason the crontab isn't working
[18:43] <Genesis_> any ideas?
[18:44] <quatrox> Genesis_: with "#!/bin/bash" as the first line in the bash script?
[18:44] <Genesis_> yes.
[18:44] <Genesis_> er actually /sh
[18:45] <quatrox> did you chmod +x <your_script> ?
[18:45] <Genesis_> I did.
[18:45] <SchrodingersScat> so it's /sh but you want it to be ran with bash?
[18:45] <Genesis_> as i said it works fine when i run it from terminal
[18:46] <Genesis_> if I change #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/bash
[18:46] <quatrox> sh is a symlink to bash
[18:46] <Genesis_> I still need to do bash runscript.sh
[18:46] <quatrox> ohh... then I learned something new
[18:46] <Pici> quatrox: no, sh is a symlink to dash, which is not bash.
[18:46] <SchrodingersScat> quatrox: for me it's a symlink to dash
[18:47] <NaranjaLoca> does anyone know why people generally seem to prefer running l2tp with IPsec instead of just IPsec by itself as a VPN? I really don't see the function of l2tp and google isn't helping
[18:47] <Genesis_> using /bin/bash /home/vnfc1/scripts/startminecraft.sh
[18:47] <Genesis_> works 100% fine
[18:47] <Genesis_> but the crontab won't wo rk
[18:47] <Genesis_> I am doing @reboot
[18:47] <SchrodingersScat> !pm | hickuper not interested in whatever your pm is about.
[18:49] <quatrox> Genesis_: the alternative to cron is using init to trigger the script
[18:49] <lucidguy> OMG, still can't figure out a way to print PDFs that have color in them in black and white or greyscale .. I want to kill myself.
[18:49] <genii> quatrox: Actually sh is a symlink to dash, not bash
[18:49] <Genesis_> quatrox, I tried making a mkdir with crontab on reboot
[18:49] <Genesis_> and it worked fine
[18:49] <Genesis_> so what the hell :(
[18:50] <quatrox> genii, Pici and SchrodingersScat already told me that.  I was just confusing with a different distro
[18:50] <NaranjaLoca> no VPN wiz peoples in here, huh?
[18:51] <quatrox> Genesis_: why would you want to do that from cron?  It sounds more like an init task
[18:52] <Genesis_> quatrox, how would I do it from an init task?
[18:53] <quatrox> Genesis_: regarding cron: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/109804/crontabs-reboot-only-works-for-root
[18:53] <Genesis_> quatrox, a mkdir works fine using @treboot.
[18:54] <teward> OerHeks: so 4.8 is the default in trusty?
[18:54] <hickuper> Genesis_: maybe you need file ownership privileges.
[18:54] <OerHeks> teward, yes
[18:54] <Genesis_> I have it for that user hickuper
[18:55] <OerHeks> !info gcc utopic
[18:56] <quatrox> Genesis_: but not your script?
[18:57] <Genesis_> quatrox, I own the script.
[18:57] <Genesis_> i'll figure it out later
[18:57] <Genesis_> no big deal
[18:57] <quatrox> Genesis_: I meant to ask if the script was triggered by cron?
[18:58] <Genesis_> quatrox, how would I know? it doesn't produce anything.
[18:58] <Genesis_> i'll figure it out later
[18:58] <Genesis_> thanks guys
[18:59] <seras> Who programs on Python?
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> seras  ask your question and wait
[19:00] <teward> i accidentally screwed up my gcc alternatives - what should i set them to by default for trusty, or is there a way to automatically reconfigure them
[19:00] <NaranjaLoca>  does anyone know why people generally seem to prefer running l2tp with IPsec instead of just IPsec by itself as a VPN? I really don't see the function of l2tp and google isn't helping
[19:01] <quatrox> teward: not sure if you can use dpkg reconfigure or something similar
[19:02] <teward> quatrox: hence my asking
[19:02] <quatrox> teward: forget about what I said.  I found something else
[19:02] <EriC^^> teward: not sure if dpkg-reconfigure would do the job
[19:03] <quatrox> teward: update-alternatives --config gcc
[19:03] <quatrox> and select the newest
[19:05] <teward> quatrox: except there was nothing there, hence me saying i derped it
[19:06] <teward> quatrox: 4.7, 4.8, 4.9 seem to be 'present' on the computer, and 4.8 is the default in trusty apparently based on gcc-defaults
[19:06] <quatrox> teward: is that from gcc --version?
[19:07] <teward> quatrox: no, from ls /usr/bin | grep gcc
[19:07] <teward> and looking for .real
[19:07] <quatrox> update-alternatives --auto gcc
[19:08] <divBy0> can someone recommend an irc client for ios8?
[19:08] <quatrox> teward: auto should select the default
[19:08] <Pici> divBy0: Not sure why we'd know, try ##iphone or ask alis.
[19:09] <hickuper> divBy0: not off hand
[19:09] <divBy0> Pici: trust of #iphone user's software intuitions vs that of #ubuntu users
[19:10] <Pici> divBy0: I don't know anything about that channel.  Its not an Ubuntu support question though.  Try #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps.
[19:10] <divBy0> Pici: thanks
[19:12] <teward> quatrox: there's nothing listed in the alternatives.  I readded them, set -4.8 to the auto, gave lower priority to the others
[19:12] <uwe> Hi try to setup zfsonlinux on ubuntu with encrypted devices. the devices are not with luks, but plain. but the boot order is wrong. first zfs try to import the pool, after than the encrypted devices were open. that not work for me. how can I fix the thos (or the boot order) to be sure the devices will encrypt before zfs import start?
[19:12] <teward> quatrox: as i said, i broke my alternatives >.>
[19:13] <teward> quatrox: i apparently DO have 4.6, 4.7, 4.8, and 4.9 installed though so it never hurts, I believe, to have them all in the alternatives list and have 4.8 at the higher priority
[19:13] <quatrox> teward: maybe the last two posts here gives you some help: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7832892/how-to-change-the-default-gcc-compiler-in-ubuntu
[19:13] <teward> quatrox: strangely enough i'm in the askubuntu variant of that post
[19:14] <teward> and i just readded all the compilers and set 4.8 back to default (auto).
[19:14] <quatrox> teward: sounds correct
[19:18] <quatrox> teward: Which one you want as default is up to you.  I believe that if you add all by using --install, then --auto should set the default back to how it was
[19:27] <uwe> Hi try to setup zfsonlinux on ubuntu with encrypted devices. the devices are not with luks, but plain. but the boot order is wrong. first zfs try to import the pool, after than the encrypted devices were open. that not work for me. how can I fix the thos (or the boot order) to be sure the devices will encrypt before zfs import start?
[19:36] <teward> quatrox: it set to whichever I gave the highest priority number.  Which was 4.8 (per defaults)
[19:37] <quatrox> uwe: not sure what you mean by "import the pool".  Is that something triggered by init?
[19:37] <sir-me> Hey whats wrong here cant updates sudo apt-get install http:deb //mirror.angani.co/ubuntu precise-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[19:37] <sir-me>  
[19:38] <EriC^^> sir-me: is that an error?
[19:38] <NegativeFlare> !precise
[19:38] <quatrox> teward: ohhh... anyway, why not just use the most recent one?
[19:38] <NegativeFlare> Oh, making sure.
[19:38] <NegativeFlare> sir-me: the Mirror might be down
[19:39] <teward> quatrox: my choice.
[19:39] <teward> quatrox: if Ubuntu stuff depends on 4.8 by default with the gcc-defaults set to 4.8, i'mma use that with auto
[19:39] <teward> quatrox: and change it with update-alternatives --config   as needed
[19:39] <quatrox> teward: ubuntu does not install gcc by default
[19:40] <quatrox> teward: it is only if you want to compile yourself
[19:40] <sir-me> Eric:here is the error : Unable to locate package http
[19:40] <sir-me> E: Unable to locate package //mirror.angani.co
[19:40] <sir-me> E: Couldn't find any package by regex '//mirror.angani.co'
[19:40] <sir-me> E: Unable to locate package precise-updates
[19:40] <sir-me> E: Unable to locate package main
[19:40] <sir-me> E: Unable to locate package restricted
[19:40] <NegativeFlare> whoa
[19:40] <EriC^^> !paste | sir-me
[19:40] <NegativeFlare> !pastebin | sir-me
[19:41] <teward> quatrox: i know that - i meant what build-essential isntalls
[19:41] <[Arab]> Help
[19:41] <teward> quatrox: which is on my system because packaging
[19:41] <teward> !help | [Arab]
[19:41] <EriC^^> sir-me: what are you trying to achieve?
[19:42] <EriC^^> sir-me: you want to add the repository of precise-updates ?
[19:42] <sir-me> Eric: get updates
[19:42] <quatrox> sir-me: it should be http://mirror......
[19:42] <EriC^^> sir-me: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:42] <[Arab]> So I get "error: unknown filesystem." "Entering rescue mode. . ." "grub rescue>"
[19:42] <EriC^^> ^^ that will fetch the packages and upgrade them except for a few
[19:42] <[Arab]> What should I do?!
[19:43] <NegativeFlare> !mirrors | sir-me
[19:43] <quatrox> teward: now I understand why.  I am sorry I cannot help
[19:43] <[Arab]> :(
[19:44] <NegativeFlare> [Arab]: What did you do before this happened?
[19:44] <sir-me> Eric: Am so new to linux thats
[19:44] <[Arab]> NegativeFlare: Installed Ubuntu :/
[19:45] <EriC^^> sir-me: ok, sudo apt-get update , gets the list of packages available, so you can search them and install what you want
[19:46] <NegativeFlare> [Arab]: Wait, try reinstalling again then?
[19:46] <EriC^^> sir-me: sudo apt-get upgrade will check the list of available packages for new versions, and upgrade the packages you have, except for the kernel and packages it has to remove or install new packages to get them to work
[19:46] <NegativeFlare> It shouldn't do that at all o_O
[19:46] <sir-me> Eric: thanks
[19:46] <[Arab]> NegativeFlare: How can I get to my previous operating system? :(
[19:46] <EriC^^> sir-me: in that case, it will mention some packages being held back, and you can use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , that will upgrade all the packages
[19:47] <NegativeFlare> [Arab]: Previous? Did you install Ubuntu OVER your last OS? or no?
[19:47] <EriC^^> sir-me: no problem
[19:47] <[Arab]> NegativeFlare: Alongside my previous operating system.
[19:48] <[Arab]> not like "previous".
[19:48] <[Arab]> Just "other".
[19:48] <jhutchins> sir-me: It looks like your sources.list files are messed up.
[19:48] <jhutchins> sir-me: Did you edit them manually?
[19:49] <jhutchins> [Arab]: What is the other OS?
[19:49] <jhutchins> !fixgrub
[19:51] <[Arab]> jhutchins: Windows 7
[19:51] <bottazzini> all hail ubottu, he knows everythin :P
[19:51] <oal> Is it possible to get a pretty boot screen after installing nvidia drivers? Before I did, it was a high res splash, but now it's a low res mess.
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> bottazzini  ubottu is a she
[19:52] <Pici> !botsnack
[19:52] <NegativeFlare> LOL
[19:52] <bottazzini> MonkeyDust, wow I... I... I didn't know... I am so sorry ubottu
[19:53] <theadmin> oal: Eh, that tends to happen. It doesn't really matter does it now :P
[19:53] <jhutchins> oal: You might want to rebuild the initramfs if you haven't done that yet.
[19:54] <oal> jhutchins, update-initramfs?
[19:54] <jhutchins> !initramfs
[19:54] <jhutchins> Rats.
[19:54] <EriC^^> oal: sudo update-initramfs -a
[19:55] <teward> is there any command line method to get the arch that the system is, such that i386/amd64/etc are all that is returned?
[19:55] <EriC^^> teward: uname -r
[19:55] <EriC^^> uname -m
[19:55] <teward> EriC^^: thanks
[19:55] <oal> EriC^^, -a doesn't seem to be a valid flag
[19:56] <jhutchins> oal: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+question/26781
[19:56] <EriC^^> ah, -k all
[19:56] <EriC^^> oal: ^
[19:56] <oal> Thanks
[19:57] <teward> EriC^^: is it just x86 for i386?
[19:57] <EriC^^> sometimes its i686 i thihkn
[19:57] <EriC^^> *think
[20:02] <Serpardum> I installed Xubuntu but it won't boot. I can boot to the cd and see my file structure. I was wondering if once it's booted if I just couldn't change the mount somehow?
[20:03] <EriC^^> Serpardum: what happens when you boot it?
[20:03] <[Arab]> Do I really need a CD to fix the problem?
[20:03] <[Arab]> Ugh.
[20:03] <[Arab]> I'll do it tomorrow.
[20:03] <[Arab]> Good night.
[20:03] <Serpardum> It shows the XUbuntu logo with the swirling circle not swirling, just stuck in one location
[20:03] <Telendrith> lol Serpardum, I'm pretty much in the same boat. Finsh the install. Reboot > Nothing
[20:04] <Serpardum> I'm booted to the computer now with the CD
[20:04] <EriC^^> Serpardum: ok, so it's booting
[20:04] <Serpardum> To some point, yes, it just doesn't finish booting into xfce or whatever it's called Ig uess.
[20:04] <EriC^^> if you press esc does it show anything?
[20:04] <Serpardum> I'm new to xubuntu, coming from archlinux
[20:04] <Telendrith> I don't even get to grub. So I used the repair cd to get the boot info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9839171/
[20:05] <Serpardum> I'll go try. What should pressing esc show me?
[20:05] <Serpardum> I'll try alt-f1 and such too
[20:05] <Serpardum> be back in a bit
[20:05] <EriC^^> Serpardum: the boot up
[20:06] <consolidated> i guess he is dual booting heh
[20:06] <Telendrith> heh.
[20:07] <Telendrith> I'm on a second device, but I guess he's still doing better then me
[20:08] <Telendrith> ok, I re-installed grub2 and now my display just goes black, no signal :o
[20:10] <EriC^^> Telendrith: how did you reinstall grub?
[20:10] <Telendrith> Two steps further, one step back into darkness. I used the boot repair disk live CD
[20:11] <EriC^^> Telendrith: do you have a live usb of ubuntu?
[20:11] <Telendrith> No, just the server ISO at the moment.
[20:11] <Telendrith> I can build one in a jiffy
[20:11] <EriC^^> Telendrith: ok, cool
[20:11] <Bashing-om> Telendrith: EriC^^ :: maybe graphics issue ? Nvidia/ATI -> "nomodeset" boot parameter .
[20:12] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: good call, it might be
[20:12] <EriC^^> Telendrith: try to boot holding shift
[20:12] <EriC^^> see if you get grub
[20:12] <Telendrith> k
[20:13] <ubuntu187> I need help with eclipse
[20:13] <Bashing-om> !details | ubuntu187
[20:18] <ubuntu129> help with eclipse
[20:19] <jhutchins> ubuntu129: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[20:20] <ubuntu129> If you are aware about app, then I installed some android sdk files but after restart its not able to detect any
[20:21] <Telendrith> Ok. EriC^^: So I get into grub
[20:21] <ubuntu129> My files are stored in home direcctory too
[20:21] <isantop> ubuntu129: I've personally moved to Android Studio for android development. I find it fits the workflow a bit better.
[20:21] <EriC^^> Telendrith: ok, press e over the ubuntu entry
[20:22] <EriC^^> Telendrith: add nomodeset to the kernel line after linux vmlinuz ....... quiet splash
[20:22] <ubuntu129> I downloaded about 1.1 GB of data wasting all my time I cannot let it go in vain ! Plaease help!
[20:22] <serpardum> I was able to boot this time by selecting the 2nd boot partition I installed too.
[20:22] <serpardum> My question now is, where do i configure my 2 screens?
[20:22] <ubuntu129> Is ther any method to mount the configured files
[20:22] <serpardum> can't find anywhere to adjust those
[20:23] <Bashing-om> serpardum: What desk top are you running ? the setting varies for multi-displays .
[20:23] <ubuntu129> It does not even shows Android Manager now after restart
[20:24] <serpardum> it was default xubuntu installed so i believe xfce
[20:25] <Bashing-om> serpardum: Main menu settings -> display ?
[20:25] <ubuntu129> Is ther any method to mount the configured files
[20:25] <Telendrith> EriC^^ so just add a space after quiet splash and $vt_handoff and add nomodeset?
[20:25] <EriC^^> Telendrith: yeah
[20:25] <serpardum> I type display and dr.ont' see it, don't see it in main menu eithe
[20:25] <cpubuilder> does the b43legacy bug still exist
[20:25] <EriC^^> Telendrith: then press ctrl+x
[20:26] <serpardum> oh, right, I gotta disable this laptop mouse, it drives me crazy
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> cpubuilder  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:26] <Telendrith> ok, screen hasent shutterd or turned off. but now it's just blank :o
[20:27] <cpubuilder> im running 12.04 on an imac G4 with an airport extreme
[20:27] <ubuntu129> Nobody gonna help
[20:27] <ubuntu129> Nobody gonna help?
[20:27] <Nach0z> ubuntu129: patience, padawan
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu129  start with a question
[20:28] <EriC^^> Telendrith: make a live usb and chroot and maybe update the kernel, which ubuntu are you using anyways?
[20:28] <ubuntu129> help with eclipse
[20:28] <ubuntu129> If you are aware about app, then I installed some android sdk files but after restart its not able to detect any files
[20:28] <ubuntu129> My files are stored in home directory too
[20:29] <ubuntu129> Is there any method to retrieve them again?
[20:29] <Telendrith> EriC^^ Ubuntu server 4.04.1. can I PM you with a boot link?
[20:30] <cpubuilder> does anyone know why the FOSS b43legacy driver is so slow with a 4306/2 controller under ubuntu 12.04 PPC
[20:30] <serpardum> Bashing-om, it was settings manager -> display,.  Thanks
[20:30] <ubuntu129> I downloaded about 1.1 GB of data wasting all my time I cannot let it go in vain ! Plaease help!
[20:30] <Bashing-om> serpardum: I do run XFCE as my DE ( not Xubuntu, but ) and in the top task bar is "applications menu" in this menu is "settings" and from settings is "display" where I can set up the display options . yours is not so ?
[20:31] <Bashing-om> serpardum: Great .. glad ya got it sorted .
[20:32] <EriC^^> Telendrith: it's ok to share it here
[20:32] <consolidated> ubuntu129: i know nothing about eclipse... have you tried #eclipse ?
[20:32] <ubuntu129> yes recently installed
[20:33] <cpubuilder> hahahahahahahaha
[20:33] <ubuntu129> Is ther any method to mount the configured files
[20:33] <Telendrith> EriC^^: here was the original report: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9839171/
[20:33] <Ulugbek> Hi there - has anyone heard of the Kafeine-Bug in Adobe-Flash?
[20:33] <EriC^^> Telendrith: i think it is graphics related, grub is booting so it doesn't seem to be an issue
[20:36] <bprompt> ubuntu129:     what are you trying to mount?    you story seems to be scatter about in several fragmented lines.... if you could consolidate them.... that'd help I'd think
[20:37] <bprompt> Ulugbek:     I guess not, not I for that matter, not sure if relevant, but I do run kaffeine
[20:37] <ubuntu129> I wanna mount some dowmloded files linked to an app 'eclipsed'
[20:37] <ubuntu129> *downloaded
[20:38] <bprompt> ubuntu129:   you're fragmenting again
[20:38] <ubuntu129> If you are aware about app, then I installed some android sdk files but after restart its not able to detect any files
[20:39] <qohelet> bprompt: Kafeine has nothing to do with the popular program. It seems to be a serious bug in Adobe-Flash player. According to the news Windows, Linux and Mac are vulnerable. So is IE and Mozilla. Chrome doesn't (till now)
[20:39] <bprompt> ubuntu129:    ... not sure I can get much from that... "about app".... there are tons of apps of all kinds.... I haven't installed an android sdk myself yet, so... dunno I gather
[20:39] <yppe> is there anything like AUR in ubuntu/mint. when im using ubuntu i feel like i dont find any program i need but when using manjaro/arch i find everything there with AUR. Is there like large list of PPAs somewhere?
[20:39] <bprompt> qohelet:   k
[20:41] <Telendrith> EriC^^ You are probably right. Shouldn't it still boot into terminal with out gfx issues?
[20:42] <ubuntu129> Can you suggest me some android IDE that works well with 64bit ubuntu12.04?
[20:42] <ubuntu129> Can you suggest me some android IDE that works well with 64bit ubuntu12.04?
[20:44] <ssalenik> yppe: you can try searching on launchpad.net
[20:44] <EriC^^> Telendrith: try to boot with adding set gfxpayload=keep
[20:44] <EriC^^> set gfxpayload=keep
[20:45] <EriC^^> on a line before the linux vmlinuz ... line
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[20:46] <valkyr87> hello.. just had a major wtf moment with ubuntu-studio 14.04.1 installation
[20:47] <valkyr87> i had 13.04 desktop, so couldn't update through the updater
[20:47] <valkyr87> so i downloaded ubuntu studio iso and started installation
[20:48] <valkyr87> it detected my previous 13.04 which was dual-booted with windows 8.1
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> valkyr87  keep your question in one line, it's easier to follow and repeat
[20:49] <valkyr87> k, it gave me an option to erase 13.04 and replace with studio. i selected that and long story short: it formatted my entire HDD
[20:49] <ubuntu129> Can you suggest me some android IDE that works well with 64bit ubuntu12.04?
[20:49] <valkyr87> i thought it was going to erase just the 13.04 but now my entire data is gone
[20:50] <valkyr87> the installer doesn't specifically say it will erase entire HDD :|
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> valkyr87  did you have backups?
[20:51] <valkyr87> i did but the last backup i had was a couple of months ago.. all my newer documents are gone :|
[20:51] <EriC^^> enter testdisk
[20:51] <EriC^^> !info testdisk | valkyr87
[20:51] <valkyr87> i backed up the 13.04 home directory before this but not the entire hdd
[20:51] <valkyr87> ok i'll try that
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> valkyr87  home is a lot good stuff saved, what more are you missing
[20:52] <valkyr87> MonkeyDust: all the other windows partitions..
[20:53] <EriC^^> valkyr87: testdisk can probably get back the windows stuff easily
[20:53] <EriC^^> there's also a bunch of other packages apt-cache search recover partition , will show you a list of them
[20:53] <valkyr87> EriC^^: installed testdisk.. it is scanning the hdd now
[20:54] <cpubuilder> does anyone know why the FOSS b43legacy driver is so slow with a 4306/2 controller under ubuntu 12.04 PPC
[20:54] <OerHeks> "the installer doesn't specifically say it will erase entire HDD " is not true
[20:54] <valkyr87> OerHeks: it didnt.. it was a ubuntu studio installer
[20:55] <valkyr87> you are probably thinking of ubuntu-desktop
[20:59] <halvorg> Hey, in ubuntu 14.10 my dash and top-bar have disappeared, any ideas?
[20:59] <halvorg> happened after I upgraded video drivers i thikn
[20:59] <valkyr87> oh btw.. the ubuntu-studio installer failed saying something like "couldn't install grub on /target" and then the window wouldn't close
[20:59] <halvorg> I can right click to add folders etc, but i cant move windows.
[20:59] <valkyr87> the bug-report window won't close
[21:04] <cpubuilder> my wifi is still slow
[21:04] <Bashing-om> valkyr87: If it is any consolation and IF it applies : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1265192 . testing: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2259055 . Maybe add your voice to the bug report ?
[21:08] <valkyr87> i also have a Samsung laptop with UEFI, Windows 8.1 + Ubuntu 13.04 dual booted
[21:10] <valkyr87> i have the exact same problem as of Tomasz Kuczak's (tomasz-ks9). i'll post my experience as well.
[21:12] <Bashing-om> valkyr87: It is a shame it happens - seems it is a UEFI thing. It is good that you add your "ouch" to the report .
[21:13] <teward> is there any easy one-liner in command line to determine whether the architecture is armhf armel or arm64?
[21:14] <Rednax66> yo, got an issue with what seems to be an un bootable ubuntu server installation
[21:14] <Rednax66> was wondering how i could get more information?
[21:14] <Telendrith> Sorry EriC^^ I had to grab lunch, going to try and set gfxpayload=keep now.
[21:16] <Telendrith> Just make a new line before linux /vmlinuz .. etc ?
[21:21] <DocPlatypus> okay... this is not good. upgraded to 14.04 LTS last night/today, I leave the computer for a few hours, and I come back and I cannot get the password prompt to come up for the life of me
[21:21] <supersat> anyone knowing what's up with Ubuntu's IPv6 servers/routes? I can't seem to reach them from some places
[21:21] <DocPlatypus> one thing of note about this system: for some reason it shows some kind of phantom built-in display like a laptop would, that I have not know to correspond to an actual display that exists
[21:22] <DocPlatypus> known*
[21:22] <DocPlatypus> I've turned that display off in unity-control-center but apparently sometimes stuff still gets displayed to it. wondering if there is a way to turn it off completely
[21:26] <hd> Hello
[21:27] <mrec> is there any way to disable gnome-screensaver?
[21:27] <hd> dont know
[21:27] <DocPlatypus> mrec: Applications / System Tools / System Settings / Brightness & Lock
[21:28] <mrec> DocPlatypus: via command line?
[21:28] <DocPlatypus> mrec: pkill gnome-screensaver
[21:28] <hd> so, why these ubuntu are many of command line?
[21:28] <DocPlatypus> though normally when one logs in via GNOME one uses the GUI tools to disable things
[21:28] <mrec> not very efficient...
[21:29] <DocPlatypus> there's probably a way to poke something in via the command line... I've never tried to disable my screensaver that way
[21:29] <EriC^^> Telendrith: yeah
[21:30] <undecim> hd: The command line is unambiguous and desktop-independant
[21:30] <EriC^^> mrec: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.screensaver idle-activation-enabled false
[21:30] <Telendrith> No luck EriC^^. but if i go into safemode and then go to normal boot. it works just fine
[21:31] <EriC^^> mrec: gsettings list-recursively | grep screensaver , will list some keys
[21:32] <EriC^^> Telendrith: check what safemode uses
[21:32] <EriC^^> Telendrith: press e over it
[21:32] <pero> hello - im currently getting booted from my wifi every few minutes (deauthenticated - reason 4). new issue as of an hour ago
[21:33] <hd> ok then, guess and IDE command line, like in other programming tool to integrate functionally for the many. then desktop-independant as software dependant but better integrated for "the many"
[21:34] <DocPlatypus> brb
[21:44] <jonles> how do i register a nickname so i can chat in certain channels?
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> !register
[21:46] <hd> undecim: ok then, guess and IDE command line, like in other programming tool to integrate functionally for the many. then desktop-independant as software dependant but better integrated for "the many". this way by understanding text interface logic like to built the terminal\load prompt tools based then on hardware system chekings? then it is from the previous a more machine standard?
[21:49] <undecim> hd, I don't quite understand you.
[21:50] <hd> undecim: i just preview the progress to the "big" picture.
[21:51] <undecim> hd, Linux distros, including those made for server, share a lot of libraries and components. When you use the command line, you don't have to worry about what the purpose of the system is. It doesn't matter what desktop environment you're running (unity, gnome, KDE, etc.) or that you have one at all.
[21:52] <yepla> does it better to use LTS or the last ubuntu ?
[21:52] <undecim> hd, Also, when explaining stuff on IRC/Web, it's a lot easier to share the command line than saying "Go the this application and hit this button and that button"
[21:53] <undecim> yepla, If you have to ask, stick with LTS
[21:53] <yepla> undecim: i have not understand
[21:54] <yepla> what u mean ?
[21:54] <undecim> yepla, Use LST
[21:54] <undecim> LTS*
[21:54] <yepla> why it s better ?
[21:55] <undecim> yepla, more stable, longer support term
[21:55] <yepla> undecim: does i will have upgrade of last package ?
[21:55] <undecim> yepla, Not always
[21:56] <undecim> yepla, If you want the most up-to-date, use 14.10
[21:57] <hd> undecim: yeah social i understood, thats a way to protect incoming logic to the system filosofy.
[21:57] <yepla> i don t want have pb with the proprietary fglrx driver
[21:57] <yepla> and actually with the last impossible to install it
[21:59] <connection_> boa noite ...
[21:59] <connection_> alguem sabe um programa bom pra email markting
[22:00] <Pici> !br | connection_
[22:01] <connection_> boa noite
[22:03] <DJCruze> can someone by chance help me out with something
[22:05] <DJCruze> can someone help me with flash issues
[22:05] <fry__> Is there a command to edit the "last modified" attribute on a file?
[22:07] <unixist> fry__: touch
[22:08] <DJCruze> #ubuntu-us-al
[22:11] <ironfoot495> Hello I just installed 14.05 LTS and I need help installing xiphos is anyone familiar with this software?
[22:11] <ironfoot495> 14.04 sorry
[22:14] <Nikesh> Why would $ date and $ hwclock be different?
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> Nikesh  i guess that's ntp related
[22:15] <Nikesh> ntp?
[22:15] <dalekusa> Could I use Gparted to make a partition for use with the Windows 10 preview?
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> network time protocol
[22:15] <gcl5cp> clean system ok, after install gimp and imagemagick png images have "No default app associated", mime type warm
[22:15] <gcl5cp> why and how fix it?
[22:16] <Nikesh> hwclock says 2:15AM and date says 12:15PM
[22:16] <EriC^^> dalekusa: yes i guess
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> gcl5cp  right click, propersties, open with, set as default
[22:16] <gcl5cp> doesn't work, any app is saved
[22:17] <EriC^^> dalekusa: allocate some free space if you're using the same disk, and then use windows installer's custom partitioner to make the necessary partitions
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> dalekusa  i'm running win10 preview in vmWare Player, as we speak... runs like a dream
[22:18] <gcl5cp> clicking on "Open with: No default ... [Change]" do nothing
[22:18] <dalekusa> I plan on taking up 125 GB of my 500 GB hard disk for the Win10 partition
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> dalekusa  what i'm saying is: with a virtual machine, you don't need to change partitions
[22:19] <dalekusa> hmm...
[22:19] <EriC^^> dalekusa: ok, is ubuntu already installed>
[22:19] <dalekusa> yes
[22:19] <dalekusa> EriC^^
[22:19] <gcl5cp> clicking on "Open with: No default ... [Change]" show any menu
[22:19] <dalekusa> MonkeyDust my computer is semi-old, so it may not run as well
[22:19] <EriC^^> dalekusa: ok, use gparted to allocate the free space, then install windows
[22:20] <EriC^^> dalekusa: you'll need to reinstall grub after the windows installation
[22:20] <dalekusa> I used to run Win 7 before it derped on me, so I think it should work
[22:20] <dalekusa> ?
[22:20] <dalekusa> how?
[22:20] <EriC^^> !fixgrub
[22:20] <DJ_Unibob> I was just about to ask about fixing grub, someone beat me to it.  :)
[22:22] <dalekusa> I am running 14.10, but my disc is for 14.04 LTS
[22:22] <Bashing-om> ironfoot495: What is the problem ? -> apt-cache show xiphos >> Version: 3.1.5+dfsg-1build3 ; in 14.04 repo .
[22:22] <MonkeyDust> dalekusa  mind: backup first, before you start modifying partitions
[22:22] <EriC^^> dalekusa: not a problem
[22:22] <delinquentme> so how do I tell if a file is a compiled binary OTHER than opening it up and seeing nothing but jibberish characters
[22:22] <EriC^^> delinquentme: file <program>
[22:23] <delinquentme> EriC^^ check_nrpe: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, BuildID[sha1]=0xf3d099ed53530573b0b47c11b8dfb83a435ac5bb, not stripped
[22:24] <EriC^^> ok it's a 64bit program
[22:24] <dalekusa> Boot-Repair-Disk looks like a good alternative...
[22:24] <delinquentme> got it. yeah so thats not getting edited ... or well I need to rewrite that code
[22:26] <dalekusa> Eric^^ could I use Boot-Repair-Disk instead?
[22:26] <dalekusa> EriC^^
[22:26] <EriC^^> dalekusa: yeah i guess
[22:31] <raymondillo> part
[22:31] <makaveli0129> hello everyone i'm getting the message DMA: Out of SW-IOMMU space for 512 bytes at device 0000:00:1f.2
[22:31] <makaveli0129> any idea what that is
[22:31] <compdoc> makaveli0129, you might disable IOMMU in the bios
[22:32] <daftykins> i doubt you'd see that setting in a BIOS. it's a kernel boot parameter too, though
[22:32] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Is there an easy way to put a marker line into a log file?
[22:32] <EriC^^> dsnyders: which log file?
[22:32] <daftykins> try #bash as that'd be more relevant than OS support
[22:33] <jonathanweber> hello!
[22:34] <makaveli0129> compdoc: i added iommu=soft to the boot and still no dice getting the same message that freezes computer
[22:34] <daftykins> makaveli0129: what PCI device does that bus ID correspond to?
[22:34] <compdoc> makaveli0129, are you trying to use iommu?
[22:35] <compdoc> you have a VM?
[22:35] <beaton_> I used to date a guy named "Ubuntu" once
[22:35] <makaveli0129> daftkins: 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 4 port SATA IDE Controller #1
[22:35] <beaton_> he would "play the bongos" on  my ass
[22:35] <makaveli0129> compdoc: i don't even know what it is
[22:36] <compdoc> makaveli0129, then disable it in the bios
[22:36] <makaveli0129> compdoc: what does it do and why is it failing though?
[22:36] <dsnyders> EriC^^: Does it matter?  /var/log/messages perhaps?   Or all of them simultaneously.  Sometimes, when you're trying stuff, it would be helpful to know where to start looking.
[22:36] <beaton-> noobsflyvfr lol great name
[22:37] <compdoc> makaveli0129, and dont forget to remove  iommu=soft
[22:37] <beaton-> r u a CFII or something?
[22:37] <beaton-> line pilot?
[22:37] <EriC^^> dsnyders: if you want to add something to /var/log/syslog , you can use logger , logger <message>
[22:37] <compdoc> makaveli0129, its used to 'pass-thru' a hardware device, like a network card, to a virtual machine
[22:38] <christian_> Does anyone use turn tables or know a good software compatible with linux let me know please
[22:38] <compdoc> you give the VM complete control of the device
[22:38] <makaveli0129> compdoc: i use vbox for like windows and stuff will disabling it break that
[22:38] <dsnyders> EriC^^: Thanks.
[22:38] <compdoc> makaveli0129, no
[22:38] <EriC^^> dsnyders: no problem
[22:39] <makaveli0129> compdoc: let me see if i can find the setting and i'll be back shortly
[22:40] <christian_> Does anyone know Mixxx is compatible with actual tables
[22:40] <christian_> ?
[22:40] <GraemeLion> christian_: By tables you mean DJ Controllers.
[22:40] <jonathanweber> I have a problem that may sound weird, but actually it is for a quit big movie project. I need a 16-digit prime number with the highest amount of digit "6" in it of all 16-digit-prime-numbers.
[22:40] <jonathanweber> I found a program that is returning all prime numbers between 10^15 and 10^16. Currently I am piping the output of it to a file like "countprimes > primenumbers.txt" - but the file gets extremly large without getting even close to finishing the scan.
[22:40] <GraemeLion> And the answer is yes.
[22:40] <jonathanweber> So is there any way to count the amount of digit 6 in the program return and only put it in a file if it contains the digit more then, lets say, 5 times? Something like "countprimes | check "6" --morethan 5 > primenumbers.txt"
[22:41] <diamondjenny> is it better to get oracle java or openjdk if i want to play minecraft?
[22:41] <christian_> @GraemeLion im talking about i guess controllers yes the turn tables and sound board
[22:41] <EriC^^> jonathanweber: yeah
[22:41] <daftykins> diamondjenny: use what works.
[22:42] <jonathanweber> EriC^^: Awesome! Can yo give me a hint on what I need to do it?
[22:42] <christian_> Do you know if Mixxx is compatible with them or is it just onboard software tables?
[22:43] <GraemeLion> christian_: It's compatible with a variety of midi controllers.  They should have a listing on mixxx's website
[22:43] <frodopwns> hey guys i just installed ubuntu 14.04 server on a machine and cannot for the life of me get apt-get update to work http://pastebin.com/iaEUGBVF
[22:43] <christian_> Thanks bud
[22:43] <frodopwns> or aptitude update for that matter
[22:43] <daftykins> don't use aptitude
[22:44] <frodopwns> neither work
[22:44] <daftykins> frodopwns: your DNS is flawed, it's not resolving. "dig us.archive.ubuntu.com" likely fails out
[22:44] <daftykins> where is this system? is it at your home? is it a physical system or a VM?
[22:45] <frodopwns> its an old dell connected to a router under my desk
[22:45] <frodopwns> ; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-3ubuntu0.1-Ubuntu <<>> us.archive.ubuntu.com
[22:45] <frodopwns> ;; global options: +cmd
[22:45] <frodopwns> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[22:45] <daftykins> frodopwns: yep flawed DNS, have you configured a static IP or is it on DHCP right now?
[22:45] <frodopwns> static uip
[22:45] <frodopwns> ip
[22:46] <daftykins> via what, interfaces file edit?
[22:46] <daftykins> did you specify nameservers in there?
[22:46] <frodopwns> i vimmed /etc/network/interfaces
[22:46] <frodopwns> eth01
[22:46] <frodopwns> err eth0
[22:46] <daftykins> yeah so you messed up :)
[22:46] <frodopwns> thatll happen
[22:46] <EriC^^> jonathanweber: something like if [ $(<program> | grep -cx <number>) -ge <times found> ]; then send it to file; fi
[22:46] <frodopwns> which file do i edit to set teh dns?
[22:47] <daftykins> frodopwns: you can put them in interfaces too. or, "sudo apt-get purge resolvconf" then put "nameserver 8.8.8.8" into /etc/resolv.conf
[22:47] <frodopwns> daftykins: im used to settign this stuff up via gnome
[22:47] <jonathanweber> EriC^^: Thank you, I'm gonna give it a try :-)
[22:47] <EriC^^> jonathanweber: not sure if you can send the output of the program to a variable first, do the check then echo that to the file
[22:47] <daftykins> frodopwns: note that this will fail on a reboot too, you'll need to edit the file above after a reboot for it to stay there.
[22:47] <frodopwns> k will try er out, thanks
[22:47] <daftykins> np
[22:48] <Ranieri_> Can someone take me through the syntax of a man page.
[22:48] <Ranieri_> Why are their 4 different lines that start with the command I want to execute?
[22:48] <Ranieri_> tar [bundles-flags <args>] [<file> | <pattern> ...]
[22:48] <Ranieri_> wtf does all that mean?
[22:49] <EriC^^> jonathanweber: try var=$(<program>); if [ $(echo $var | grep -cx <number>) -ge <times to be found> ]; then echo $var > /path/to/file; fi
[22:49] <EriC^^> jonathanweber: that should work
[22:50] <Ranieri_> That looks cool.
[22:50] <EriC^^> jonathanweber: you might need to drop the -x from grep
[22:50] <Ranieri_> bash control structures and such?
[22:51] <frodopwns> daftykins: that worked, thanks again
[22:51] <EriC^^> jonathanweber: no problem :)
[22:51] <makaveli0129> compdoc: i don't see anything for specific iommu in bios but i did add the kernel parameter iommu=off
[22:53] <daftykins> frodopwns: no problemo, remember it may break on reboot again. one more edit and it'll be set :)
[22:54] <EriC^^> jonathanweber: without the -x it might grab incomplete numbers, maybe try using " <number> " with a space so it grabs the exact match
[22:54] <melray> Hi I have a live image iso burned to disc and verified for version 14.10....however since I have a nvidia card it won't boot without a corrupted display. I have not been able to figure out how to get into the grub boot information to pass nomodeset depmod which on other distros allows boot to continue. I did find hitting F6 will let me select nomodeset but there is no choice for depmod
[22:54] <frodopwns> i rebooted and it was still there, noted tho
[22:54] <diamondjenny> how do i format one of my drives
[22:55] <EriC^^> melray: holding shift while the pc boots should make grub appear
[22:55] <melray> EriC^^: Thanks so much
[22:55] <EriC^^> diamondjenny: man mkfs
[22:56] <diamondjenny> i put that in search computer and only a stock came up
[22:57] <teward> diamondjenny: you were supposed to put that into a linux command line to read the manpage
[22:57] <pavlos> to rename files to lower case one, can use the rename 'y/A-Z/a-z' * What does the y mean?
[22:57] <teward> diamondjenny: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man8/mkfs.8.html
[22:57] <diamondjenny> oh i have no idea what that is
[22:57] <teward> diamondjenny: read that page
[22:57] <diamondjenny> okay
[22:59] <EriC^^> pavlos: it's like the tr command
[23:00] <pavlos> EriC^^, I understand that but cannot find anything in perlexpr tutorials.
[23:00] <EriC^^> pavlos: like if you give it 'y/abcd/ABCD/' it will convert all occurances of abcd to ABCD
[23:01] <EriC^^> pavlos: man sed
[23:02] <pavlos> EriC^^, man sed, that was it. At the very end it shows y/source/dest/  ... many thanks
[23:03] <michael_p> what is a good gui website program that's in the software center ?
[23:04] <EriC^^> pavlos: no problem
[23:06] <makaveli0129> hi all ok keep getting this message which locks up computer eventually: "DMA: Out of SW-IOMMU space for 4096 bytes at device 0000:00:1f.2" I've tried iommu=soft and that doesn't work and i also tried iommu=off and that leave system unbootable any help?
[23:10] <daftykins> makaveli0129: have you tried changing SATA config or hunted for other BIOS options as you were already suggested?
[23:10] <makaveli0129> daftykins: the only bios setting i see is virtualization
[23:11] <makaveli0129> daftykins: i don't see any bios settings to turn it off
[23:11] <daftykins> makaveli0129: which is your CPU? exact model.
[23:11] <makaveli0129> intel wolfdale e8500
[23:11] <daftykins> so an old core 2 duo?
[23:12] <makaveli0129> daftykins: yea
[23:12] <daftykins> i don't think those had VT-d, hmm
[23:12] <daftykins> so - SATA options?
[23:12] <makaveli0129> daftykins: what am i looking for in sata options
[23:12] <daftykins> the controller mode
[23:12] <makaveli0129> daftykins: as that is the device that it seems to be blowing up on
[23:13] <daftykins> RAID/AHCI/IDE emulation
[23:13] <daftykins> yes thats why i'm suggesting it
[23:13] <makaveli0129> daftykins: i believe it is ahci but i'm not sure i would have to reboot and check
[23:13] <daftykins> give it a whirl
[23:14] <makaveli0129> ok i'll be back
[23:17] <MrmacHD> hi
[23:17] <daftykins> lo
[23:18] <MrmacHD> how can I setup two different configurations for eth0 for two different physical locations (e.g. modems/routers) that I have in mind?
[23:18] <MrmacHD> is eth0:0 and eth0:1 via aliases the right way?
[23:18] <makaveli0129> daftykins: i had a sata raid/ahci that was disable so i moved it to ahci
[23:18] <makaveli0129> daftykins: the only other option i had was something like sata 0-3 native mode which was also disabled
[23:19] <daftykins> MrmacHD: GUI system? nah i'm sure network manager can help there
[23:19] <MrmacHD> no terminal only
[23:20] <MrmacHD> no guis
[23:20] <daftykins> why does this machine move, then?
[23:20] <MrmacHD> because its portable, beaglebone black if you know.
[23:21] <MrmacHD> well portable at times.
[23:21] <daftykins> i once read an article that said the whole interface:# was the wrong approach
[23:21] <daftykins> but i don't have it to hand to share
[23:21] <MrmacHD> so that was what I suspected.
[23:22] <daftykins> i mean i'm sure it'd work, but it depends if you prefer "the right way" over what works :>
[23:22] <MrmacHD> network interface aliases seemed useful for custom setups, like proxies/vpns...
[23:22] <MrmacHD> no prefer the right way.
[23:22] <MrmacHD> durable work.
[23:22] <MrmacHD> macintosh has that, add/remove network service
[23:23] <daftykins> macs aren't GUI free though :>
[23:23] <MrmacHD> but on linux im not that familiar since I never have seen the gui.
[23:23] <MrmacHD> yeah
[23:24] <MrmacHD> the problem is mainly that the two modems I am dealing with have different subnetmask ip addressing structures.
[23:24] <MrmacHD> and I don’t want to manually reset or change these details everytime I move.
[23:25] <daftykins> MrmacHD: you could just keep two /etc/network/interfaces files configured and swap out when you move, guess it depends on the scenario which you know better than i
[23:25] <MrmacHD> yes, at this point i am slowly thinking of scripting the manual setup ...
[23:25] <MrmacHD> but that is not going to be a durable solution.
[23:27] <DARUDE> anyone here used cable isp that is running on last-mile?
[23:29] <daftykins> DARUDE: what makes that an Ubuntu support query?
[23:30] <daftykins> people on freenode are from all over the world. discussing ISPs is quite futile
[23:30] <DARUDE> ?
[23:31] <MrmacHD> ok thanks daftykins
[23:37] <p0a> Hello I installed lubuntu-desktop but now I don't want it and I want ubuntu back to how it was before
[23:37] <p0a> how can I do this?
[23:37] <p0a> in particular the problem is that internet doesn't work now I installed lubuntu-desktop. I am not sure why (I'm running this through virtualbox)
[23:38] <EriC^^> p0a: ok
[23:38] <EriC^^> if the internet worked, you'd want to keep it?
[23:38] <p0a> certainly
[23:38] <p0a> it runs smoother
[23:39] <EriC^^> ok, get it to work then
[23:39] <p0a> I've no idea how to do that
[23:39] <EriC^^> p0a: you can choose ubuntu too btw, from the top right corner when you login
[23:39] <p0a> I had clicked 'log in automatically'
[23:40] <p0a> if I logout from the user will the option be available?
[23:40] <EriC^^> yeah i think so
[23:41] <p0a> alright I did that and I'm waiting for the response, it kinda froze right now
[23:41] <daftykins> if i had a local unit of currency for everytime someone selects auto login then can't change session... ;)
[23:42] <p0a> lol
[23:42] <p0a> daftykins: if I had a local unit of currency for everytime I get absurd things happen to me that never happen to others :)
[23:43] <p0a> because if you think that's common try this: internet worked only half of the times so I had to reboot until it did
[23:43] <p0a> maybe it was a connection thing where I could just toggle 'connect/disconnect' until it worked
[23:43] <EriC^^> i think you'd be poor
[23:44] <p0a> :P
[23:45] <EriC^^> p0a: not sure if this really helps, but sudo service network-manager restart seems to help sometimes
[23:46] <p0a> idk it doesn't work now
[23:46] <Fusl> does someone know how i can make ubuntu stop starting daemons that i stop with "service <daemon> stop"?
[23:47] <EriC^^> Fusl: update-rc.d
[23:47] <Fusl> EriC^^: that's not what i meant
[23:47] <Fusl> i mean, i do "service transmission-daemon stop" and ubuntu keeps starting it up again with: init: transmission-daemon main process ended, respawning
[23:48] <daftykins> p0a: well, as long as you're blaming virtualbox :)
[23:54] <dgarstang> I just had to put this out there. I was talking to my boss about how to manage users ssh keys and his suggestion was to pre bake our ec2 ami with all the users home directories already created. I work for a fucking dinosaur.
[23:54] <SchrodingersScat> !profanity
[23:55] <ElfBot> Hi guys anyone know where I can get the source code for the old ubuntu windows installer
[23:56] <daftykins> i wouldn't touch WUBI with a bargepole if i were you
[23:56] <dgarstang> I just had to put this out there. I was talking to my boss about how to manage users ssh keys and his suggestion was to pre bake our ec2 ami with all the users home directories already created. I work for a epic moron of the highest magnitude.
[23:57] <daftykins> boss intelligence is off-topic
[23:57] <EriC^^> dgarstang: doug is that you? i think i work with you
[23:57] <daftykins> lol
[23:57] <ElfBot> daftykins: I onyl want it to look at the torrent downloader part
[23:57] <EriC^^> haha
[23:57] <EriC^^> dgarstang: j/k
[23:57] <ElfBot> If i need linux its a VM or old PC
[23:58] <daftykins> ElfBot: i wasn't even aware it downloaded releases by torrent 0o what's the plan?
[23:58] <atlantis> WEEE!
[23:59] <dalekusa> can you help me with the process of creating a 125GB partition using GParted?
[23:59] <ElfBot> Just a little project I have nearly finished - seems a waste to write an entire libtorrent wrapper/torrent client from scratch
[23:59] <daftykins> dalekusa: on an empty disk, or?
[23:59] <dalekusa> my current, singular HDD (gonna install Win10 preview on it)