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=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash
mikodoIs it 22:00 UTC yet?  :)03:01
Unit193It's 22:00 EST...03:02
mikodooops, Jan 23/1503:02
Unit193Heh, if you're looking for th meeting, yes that's not today.03:03
mikodoUnit193, No I was just being dumb03:03
mikodoI've IT coming in to the house from my IP, at the meeting time. I hope I can still be here as it happens, if not, it wil be the logs again for me.03:05
Unit193Ouch, that'd make it pretty hard to be online.03:05
mikodowe'll see ...03:06
slickymasterWorkknome, ping12:00
knomeslickymasterWork, pong12:14
slickymasterWorkknome, regarding the new chapter -> "Key stores and password managers. It is worth having a good password for those services, since they allow you to avoid typing many other passwords!"12:15
knomeyes?12:16
slickymasterWorkI think it should be Keystores, not Key stores12:16
knomemmh, i think both are just as fine12:16
slickymasterWorkthey're two distinct concpets12:16
knomeit's a store with keys, so, a key store12:16
slickymasterWorkyou do?12:16
knomeyeah... i don't see much different12:16
knome*difference12:17
knomemaybe check with a native english speaker12:17
slickymasterWorkelfy ^^12:17
Unit193Keystores implies it's the specific name to something, key store is a place to store keys.12:17
slickymasterWorkthat's my reading also Unit193 12:18
knomedo we need a specific name there?12:18
Unit193No.12:19
knomeyeah12:19
Unit193You want a descriptive term.12:19
slickymasterWorkmy reasoning is that people tend to associate the later (key stores) to a physical object and the former (keystores) to software12:20
knomei think you might be overthinking12:20
slickymasterWorkbut if you guys think I'm complicating things, I'll leave it to rest12:20
slickymasterWorkok :P12:20
knomeit will be obvious for the reader what it is about12:20
knomethere's a lot of context for it anyway12:20
slickymasterWorkoki doke12:21
knomeif they insist on understanding wrong... then they probably will find other things to nag about if we change this ;)12:21
Unit193But the good English person to ping wouldn't be on yet.12:26
slickymasterWorkwho might that good person be Unit193?12:27
elfythat'd be ali1234 12:28
slickymasterWorkhey elfy 12:31
Unit193I'd have said the website lead.12:33
knomei'm the website lead12:35
knomeso maybe you mean the marketing lead12:35
Unit193Thought you might be, mail and all..  Yeah, that's it.12:36
pleia2meeting in just under 10 minutes19:51
elfyforgot about that one - I'll be dashing off asap today :)19:53
slickymasteryeah, I'm not sure also if I'll be able to make it through the entire meeting19:55
pleia2I suspect it won't be that long19:55
slickymasterit's my mother birthday, today19:55
pleia2ah yes, you had mentioned that19:55
slickymaster:)19:55
slickymaster74, it's quite a beautiful age19:56
pleia2:D19:56
slickymasterwe'llhave to be in the restaurant in about an hour. I'm just waiting for my brother19:57
pleia2alright, let's get this rolling20:00
pleia2#startmeeting20:00
meetingologyMeeting started Fri Jan 23 20:00:10 2015 UTC.  The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.20:00
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick20:00
pleia2who all is here? :)20:00
slickymastero/20:00
elfyI is I is20:00
pleia2#topic Open action items20:00
pleia2#done pleia2 to draft stickers+incentives blog post for QA contributor giveaways20:00
pleia2and published!20:00
pleia2#done pleia2 to update docs.xubuntu.org, knome has updated the bzr repo20:00
pleia2#done knome to set up a repository for static.xubuntu.org content20:01
pleia2#done pleia2 to copy mailman info page assets under static.xubuntu.org20:01
elfybusy bee20:01
pleia2that's everything from last meeting20:01
pleia2#topic Team updates20:01
elfy#info QA nothing much to report 20:02
pleia2#info Published stickers+QA blog post and shared around social media: http://xubuntu.org/news/help-the-community-with-testing-and-win-xubuntu-stickers/20:02
slickymaster#done sidi to rewrite the security guide in the documentation20:02
pleia2elfy: tsk20:02
slickymastersorry pleia2 for being late20:02
pleia2#info QA did a bunch of work with Ubuntu QA to clean up general QA documentation on the wiki20:02
pleia2:)20:02
elfywell ... 20:02
elfythat'll be going on for ages :)20:03
pleia2slickymaster: done or action?20:03
* pleia2 hasn't kept up20:03
slickymaster#info the done pleia2 20:03
slickymasterbah20:03
pleia2haha20:03
slickymasteryou caught in the middle of something20:03
elfy#undo 20:03
pleia2#undo20:04
meetingologyRemoving item from minutes: INFO20:04
elfycept pleia2 keeps chair to herself - greedy like20:04
pleia2#chair elfy 20:04
meetingologyCurrent chairs: elfy pleia220:04
elfylol20:04
slickymaster#info the Keeping your computer safe chpater of the documentation has been completely rewritten20:04
pleia2elfy: that's what you get!20:04
slickymasterthanks for that sidi 20:04
pleia2awesome20:04
elfygot to dash now ... 20:04
slickymasterhf elfy 20:05
elfyjk :)20:05
pleia2any other updates?20:05
slickymasternothing from me20:06
elfynot here20:06
pleia2alright, worth talking about games and office applications at this meeting?20:06
elfynot really - but then again 20:07
pleia2might bump to next meeting if the interested parties aren't around20:07
elfyif the next one or next or next doesn't have people we just as well not talk about anything ever ;)20:07
pleia2well, they have to come to a meeting eventually :)20:07
slickymasterwe won't be taking any decisions, just the three of us, so I think it would be better to postpone it to the next one20:07
elfyyea - but then others will be missing instead20:08
elfyI'd rather just motion to take them to the mailing list tbh20:08
slickymasterwell, faiw I'm +1 on dropping the games20:08
pleia2#topic Remove games from default install20:08
pleia2I have no opinion here20:08
slickymaster+1 from me on dropping them20:09
pleia2elfy: seems reasonable to rm from meeting agenda and take it to the list20:09
pleia2who wants to do that?20:09
elfyI brought it up - but wasn't actually completely serious about that, but would +1 that20:09
elfyI can20:09
pleia2#action elfy to mail list about removing games from default install20:09
meetingologyACTION: elfy to mail list about removing games from default install20:09
pleia2thank you :)20:09
elfyta 20:09
slickymasterI was elfy, when you firts mentioned it elfy 20:09
pleia2#topic Start long-term discussion regarding current office applications20:09
slickymaster* first20:09
pleia2suppose we should start somewhere :)20:09
elfythis was me again :D20:09
pleia2I love libreoffice20:10
elfygiven what abiword is doing currently ... 20:10
pleia2social media tells me that lots of people install it20:10
elfyreally think we should just bite this bullet 20:10
pleia2what is abiword doing?20:10
elfybut again - needs to go to mailing list - and probably needs a bit more discussion than games is likely to get20:10
elfynot working properly unless you happen to have the mouse in the right place the first time20:11
elfythat's just crazy 20:11
pleia2ugh20:11
elfybug 139532320:11
ubottubug 1395323 in abiword (Ubuntu) "Abiword opens multiple windows when spacebar is pressed, until a new file is opened" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139532320:11
pleia2that would be funny if it wasn't awful20:11
elfycomment #8 If AbiWord launches in an unmaximized window and the mouse pointer is located outside of that window, the bug behavior happens.20:11
pleia2x_x20:12
elfyotherwise you can spacebar to open a new one :)20:12
elfyI managed about 50 before I got bored20:12
elfycan someone mail list about that one then :)20:12
pleia2I suppose I can20:12
elfyor slickymaster :)20:13
pleia2#action pleia2 to mail list to kick off discussion about default office applications20:13
slickymasterwhat?20:13
meetingologyACTION: pleia2 to mail list to kick off discussion about default office applications20:13
pleia2I just need to send one email, the rest of you can fight about it ;)20:13
elfyheh20:13
slickymastersorry guys, my brother just arrived and I have to go20:13
elfyhave a good evening slickymaster :)20:13
pleia2slickymaster: have fun!20:13
slickymasterthanks20:13
slickymastercy tomorrow20:13
pleia2elfy: ok, since you and I already know about Community Q&A thing, I really will skip that one20:14
elfyyep :)20:14
pleia2#topic Finalise User identifies as poll option20:14
pleia2#link http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-user-identifies-as20:14
elfyand we both know about this too :D20:14
pleia2well, ftr at a meeting, I'm fine with your proposal at the end of the pad as is20:14
elfyI'll mail the list - then lets wrap that up by next meeting - then get that gone 20:15
pleia2ok20:15
elfy#action Elfy to mail list re user poll20:15
meetingologyACTION: Elfy to mail list re user poll20:15
pleia2#topic Discussion20:15
pleia2anything else?20:16
* elfy looks behind him ... 20:16
elfynope20:16
pleia2ok great, let's see who gets to do the next meeting...20:16
elfyguess who ...20:16
pleia2elfy!20:16
elfy#action Elfy to setup next meeting20:16
meetingologyACTION: Elfy to setup next meeting20:16
pleia2#action elfy to schedule next meeting20:16
meetingologyACTION: elfy to schedule next meeting20:16
pleia2#undo20:16
meetingologyRemoving item from minutes: ACTION20:16
elfyha ha 20:17
pleia2I was so excited20:17
pleia2hehe20:17
pleia2alright, thanks elfy 20:17
pleia2#endmeeting20:17
meetingologyMeeting ended Fri Jan 23 20:17:14 2015 UTC.  20:17
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-01-23-20.00.moin.txt20:17
elfyokey doke - thanks pleia2 :)20:17
* pleia2 does wiki things20:17
elfyhave a good weekend 20:17
elfypleia2: one more for you - do you want something on a pad or? for usb options to burn with? 20:17
pleia2hm?20:18
elfybluesabre: if you're about over the weekend - I'm happy to schedule the next one at a time to suit you - but it'll need to be a Friday20:19
elfypleia2: for your global jam thingy - though I would be trying to be about at some point of it in here20:19
pleia2do you mean a pad describing the options, or for us to report issues, or..?20:20
elfyoptions so you know what works :)20:20
pleia2that would be good20:21
elfyok - well I'll keep a watch on the relevant bug as well - but there will be something for you to reference if necessary :)20:21
pleia2thanks :)20:21
elfywelcome of course :)20:22
elfywell I have to run now 20:22
pleia2neat, nicknames according to meetbot are case sensisive20:22
pleia2Elfy != elfy20:23
elfyoh ... 20:23
elfynot needing to schedule then - it's in the minutes \o/ 20:23
pleia2lol20:24
elfyok - well I'm off now - about over the weekend :)20:27
elfyhave a good one if I don't see you 20:27
brainwashbluesabre: I am not sure if you follow the xfpm lp report, so please read http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-January/027255.html20:41
knomeooops.20:59
knomewell wasn't a chance20:59
Unit193Missed the meeting too. \o/21:00
Unit193:P21:00
Unit193knome: So the answer is, run xfpm as root, yes.21:01
knometo what question?21:02
bluesabremeeting missed22:33
bluesabre:(22:33
Unit193^22:35
* Unit193 puts on the cone of shame.22:35
bluesabreelfy: it'd have to be before 1300 or after 2200 UTC22:38
Unit193(http://www.thestranger.com/images/blogimages/2009/07/23/1248402537-cone-1.jpg that would be that, btw.)22:40
bluesabre:D22:40
knometo be fair, most of us missed the meeting today22:42
bluesabrecones of shame for us all22:42
knomepeanuts for me22:42

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