=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [03:01] Is it 22:00 UTC yet? :) [03:02] It's 22:00 EST... [03:02] oops, Jan 23/15 [03:03] Heh, if you're looking for th meeting, yes that's not today. [03:03] Unit193, No I was just being dumb [03:05] I've IT coming in to the house from my IP, at the meeting time. I hope I can still be here as it happens, if not, it wil be the logs again for me. [03:05] Ouch, that'd make it pretty hard to be online. [03:06] we'll see ... [12:00] knome, ping [12:14] slickymasterWork, pong [12:15] knome, regarding the new chapter -> "Key stores and password managers. It is worth having a good password for those services, since they allow you to avoid typing many other passwords!" [12:16] yes? [12:16] I think it should be Keystores, not Key stores [12:16] mmh, i think both are just as fine [12:16] they're two distinct concpets [12:16] it's a store with keys, so, a key store [12:16] you do? [12:16] yeah... i don't see much different [12:17] *difference [12:17] maybe check with a native english speaker [12:17] elfy ^^ [12:17] Keystores implies it's the specific name to something, key store is a place to store keys. [12:18] that's my reading also Unit193 [12:18] do we need a specific name there? [12:19] No. [12:19] yeah [12:19] You want a descriptive term. [12:20] my reasoning is that people tend to associate the later (key stores) to a physical object and the former (keystores) to software [12:20] i think you might be overthinking [12:20] but if you guys think I'm complicating things, I'll leave it to rest [12:20] ok :P [12:20] it will be obvious for the reader what it is about [12:20] there's a lot of context for it anyway [12:21] oki doke [12:21] if they insist on understanding wrong... then they probably will find other things to nag about if we change this ;) [12:26] But the good English person to ping wouldn't be on yet. [12:27] who might that good person be Unit193? [12:28] that'd be ali1234 [12:31] hey elfy [12:33] I'd have said the website lead. [12:35] i'm the website lead [12:35] so maybe you mean the marketing lead [12:36] Thought you might be, mail and all.. Yeah, that's it. [19:51] meeting in just under 10 minutes [19:53] forgot about that one - I'll be dashing off asap today :) [19:55] yeah, I'm not sure also if I'll be able to make it through the entire meeting [19:55] I suspect it won't be that long [19:55] it's my mother birthday, today [19:55] ah yes, you had mentioned that [19:55] :) [19:56] 74, it's quite a beautiful age [19:56] :D [19:57] we'llhave to be in the restaurant in about an hour. I'm just waiting for my brother [20:00] alright, let's get this rolling [20:00] #startmeeting [20:00] Meeting started Fri Jan 23 20:00:10 2015 UTC. The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [20:00] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [20:00] who all is here? :) [20:00] o/ [20:00] I is I is [20:00] #topic Open action items [20:00] #done pleia2 to draft stickers+incentives blog post for QA contributor giveaways [20:00] and published! [20:00] #done pleia2 to update docs.xubuntu.org, knome has updated the bzr repo [20:01] #done knome to set up a repository for static.xubuntu.org content [20:01] #done pleia2 to copy mailman info page assets under static.xubuntu.org [20:01] busy bee [20:01] that's everything from last meeting [20:01] #topic Team updates [20:02] #info QA nothing much to report [20:02] #info Published stickers+QA blog post and shared around social media: http://xubuntu.org/news/help-the-community-with-testing-and-win-xubuntu-stickers/ [20:02] #done sidi to rewrite the security guide in the documentation [20:02] elfy: tsk [20:02] sorry pleia2 for being late [20:02] #info QA did a bunch of work with Ubuntu QA to clean up general QA documentation on the wiki [20:02] :) [20:02] well ... [20:03] that'll be going on for ages :) [20:03] slickymaster: done or action? [20:03] * pleia2 hasn't kept up [20:03] #info the done pleia2 [20:03] bah [20:03] haha [20:03] you caught in the middle of something [20:03] #undo [20:04] #undo [20:04] Removing item from minutes: INFO [20:04] cept pleia2 keeps chair to herself - greedy like [20:04] #chair elfy [20:04] Current chairs: elfy pleia2 [20:04] lol [20:04] #info the Keeping your computer safe chpater of the documentation has been completely rewritten [20:04] elfy: that's what you get! [20:04] thanks for that sidi [20:04] awesome [20:04] got to dash now ... [20:05] hf elfy [20:05] jk :) [20:05] any other updates? [20:06] nothing from me [20:06] not here [20:06] alright, worth talking about games and office applications at this meeting? [20:07] not really - but then again [20:07] might bump to next meeting if the interested parties aren't around [20:07] if the next one or next or next doesn't have people we just as well not talk about anything ever ;) [20:07] well, they have to come to a meeting eventually :) [20:07] we won't be taking any decisions, just the three of us, so I think it would be better to postpone it to the next one [20:08] yea - but then others will be missing instead [20:08] I'd rather just motion to take them to the mailing list tbh [20:08] well, faiw I'm +1 on dropping the games [20:08] #topic Remove games from default install [20:08] I have no opinion here [20:09] +1 from me on dropping them [20:09] elfy: seems reasonable to rm from meeting agenda and take it to the list [20:09] who wants to do that? [20:09] I brought it up - but wasn't actually completely serious about that, but would +1 that [20:09] I can [20:09] #action elfy to mail list about removing games from default install [20:09] ACTION: elfy to mail list about removing games from default install [20:09] thank you :) [20:09] ta [20:09] I was elfy, when you firts mentioned it elfy [20:09] #topic Start long-term discussion regarding current office applications [20:09] * first [20:09] suppose we should start somewhere :) [20:09] this was me again :D [20:10] I love libreoffice [20:10] given what abiword is doing currently ... [20:10] social media tells me that lots of people install it [20:10] really think we should just bite this bullet [20:10] what is abiword doing? [20:10] but again - needs to go to mailing list - and probably needs a bit more discussion than games is likely to get [20:11] not working properly unless you happen to have the mouse in the right place the first time [20:11] that's just crazy [20:11] ugh [20:11] bug 1395323 [20:11] bug 1395323 in abiword (Ubuntu) "Abiword opens multiple windows when spacebar is pressed, until a new file is opened" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1395323 [20:11] that would be funny if it wasn't awful [20:11] comment #8 If AbiWord launches in an unmaximized window and the mouse pointer is located outside of that window, the bug behavior happens. [20:12] x_x [20:12] otherwise you can spacebar to open a new one :) [20:12] I managed about 50 before I got bored [20:12] can someone mail list about that one then :) [20:12] I suppose I can [20:13] or slickymaster :) [20:13] #action pleia2 to mail list to kick off discussion about default office applications [20:13] what? [20:13] ACTION: pleia2 to mail list to kick off discussion about default office applications [20:13] I just need to send one email, the rest of you can fight about it ;) [20:13] heh [20:13] sorry guys, my brother just arrived and I have to go [20:13] have a good evening slickymaster :) [20:13] slickymaster: have fun! [20:13] thanks [20:13] cy tomorrow [20:14] elfy: ok, since you and I already know about Community Q&A thing, I really will skip that one [20:14] yep :) [20:14] #topic Finalise User identifies as poll option [20:14] #link http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-user-identifies-as [20:14] and we both know about this too :D [20:14] well, ftr at a meeting, I'm fine with your proposal at the end of the pad as is [20:15] I'll mail the list - then lets wrap that up by next meeting - then get that gone [20:15] ok [20:15] #action Elfy to mail list re user poll [20:15] ACTION: Elfy to mail list re user poll [20:15] #topic Discussion [20:16] anything else? [20:16] * elfy looks behind him ... [20:16] nope [20:16] ok great, let's see who gets to do the next meeting... [20:16] guess who ... [20:16] elfy! [20:16] #action Elfy to setup next meeting [20:16] ACTION: Elfy to setup next meeting [20:16] #action elfy to schedule next meeting [20:16] ACTION: elfy to schedule next meeting [20:16] #undo [20:16] Removing item from minutes: ACTION [20:17] ha ha [20:17] I was so excited [20:17] hehe [20:17] alright, thanks elfy [20:17] #endmeeting [20:17] Meeting ended Fri Jan 23 20:17:14 2015 UTC. [20:17] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-01-23-20.00.moin.txt [20:17] okey doke - thanks pleia2 :) [20:17] * pleia2 does wiki things [20:17] have a good weekend [20:17] pleia2: one more for you - do you want something on a pad or? for usb options to burn with? [20:18] hm? [20:19] bluesabre: if you're about over the weekend - I'm happy to schedule the next one at a time to suit you - but it'll need to be a Friday [20:19] pleia2: for your global jam thingy - though I would be trying to be about at some point of it in here [20:20] do you mean a pad describing the options, or for us to report issues, or..? [20:20] options so you know what works :) [20:21] that would be good [20:21] ok - well I'll keep a watch on the relevant bug as well - but there will be something for you to reference if necessary :) [20:21] thanks :) [20:22] welcome of course :) [20:22] well I have to run now [20:22] neat, nicknames according to meetbot are case sensisive [20:23] Elfy != elfy [20:23] oh ... [20:23] not needing to schedule then - it's in the minutes \o/ [20:24] lol [20:27] ok - well I'm off now - about over the weekend :) [20:27] have a good one if I don't see you [20:41] bluesabre: I am not sure if you follow the xfpm lp report, so please read http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-January/027255.html [20:59] ooops. [20:59] well wasn't a chance [21:00] Missed the meeting too. \o/ [21:00] :P [21:01] knome: So the answer is, run xfpm as root, yes. [21:02] to what question? [22:33] meeting missed [22:33] :( [22:35] ^ [22:35] * Unit193 puts on the cone of shame. [22:38] elfy: it'd have to be before 1300 or after 2200 UTC [22:40] (http://www.thestranger.com/images/blogimages/2009/07/23/1248402537-cone-1.jpg that would be that, btw.) [22:40] :D [22:42] to be fair, most of us missed the meeting today [22:42] cones of shame for us all [22:42] peanuts for me