[00:00] <Nixus> k, also, not sure if this is an issue, but throughout the os, some of the first letters of words are underlined, while other aren't. why?
[00:05] <brainwash> Nixus: you mean in menus or button labels?
[00:07] <brainwash> maybe a screenshot can help to visualize the problem
[00:09] <Nixus> both, and on some, the second letter is under lined
[00:10] <brainwash> the underlined letter can be used as keyboard shortcut -> Alt + letter
[00:11] <brainwash> to trigger the menu item or button
[00:11] <Nixus> any way to disable this?
[00:11] <Nixus> so it's like dos menus... I see....
[00:12] <brainwash> yes
[00:12] <brainwash> it's a common feature across most operating systems
[00:13] <brainwash> I guess you can disable it, but I have never tried it
[00:14] <brainwash> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1735533
[00:28] <Nixus> some menus don't have it...
[00:29] <brainwash> this change only targets GTK+ 2 windows
[00:29] <brainwash> GTK+ 3 and Qt windows behave differently
[00:30] <Nixus> oh, I see, thank you
[00:30] <brainwash> also, an app itself may override this or implement menus/buttons differently
[00:31] <knome> or not provide acceskeys, so they won't have those underlined letters.
[00:37] <xubuntu37w> Somebody gave me this: glxgears to run in the terminal. I ran it and it won't stop. How can I stop it?
[00:38] <knome> ctrl+c
[00:38] <Nixus> crtl+c
[00:38] <xubuntu37w> THANKS VERY MUCH, GUYS!!
[00:38] <Nixus> oh LOL, you got me on the first question i could answer
[00:39] <xubuntu37w> Have a good night!
[00:39] <Nixus> cya!
[00:39] <knome> you too, enjoy
[00:59] <Nixus> anyone know how to completely hide an autohide panel? when it's in hiding, you can still see a small section
[01:01] <deshipu> you could make it transparent...
[01:03] <Nixus> but when I unhide it, I don't want it to be transparent. and when I change the enter/leave, it has some delay
[01:07] <knome> Nixus, i don't think you can
[01:08] <Nixus> ok
[02:42] <remline> I'm about confused about the Indicator Plugin on the Panel -- why doesn't it let me select which things to show and hide?
[02:45] <pleia2> probably because no one has written that feature
[02:50] <remline> Hmm, maybe it does, the checkboxes weren't working in Indicator Plugin properties, but I force restarted the panel and now they seem to work. Mysterious.
[03:16] <aegis> Hi all... does anyone know how to get copy/past to work when logging into xubuntu through xrdp FROM a windows 7 laptop using RDP.
[03:16] <aegis> copy/paste
[03:17] <holstein> aegis: can you copy paste otherwise? after login?
[03:17] <aegis> I can copy and paste within the RDP session
[03:18] <aegis> so within xubuntu, I can copy and paste... but I can't copy something on the windows 7 machine and paste it into the rdp session.
[03:18] <Unit193> Generally you have an option when connecting from Windows for that, in preferences.
[03:18] <holstein> aegis: so, after login, you can copy paste as normal? its just in the login screen, where, you are not atble to copy/paste username? or password? or what?
[03:18] <aegis> No
[03:19] <aegis> Copy and Paste is not working between the sessions
[03:19] <holstein> so, its not limited to the login, in any way.. i would look at the preferences where Unit193 suggests..
[03:19] <aegis> I cannot copy test from the Windows machine and paste it within the RDP/xrdp session
[03:20] <aegis> Unit193, yes, I have the Local Resources/Clipboard box checked in the Windows RDP app
[03:20] <aegis> Just not sure why it isn't allowing the paste.
[03:20] <holstein> sounds like its not working properly.. have you looked for an update to whatever you are using?
[03:21] <Nixus> what do you think of my desktop? http://imgur.com/M2dkkoF
[03:25] <aegis> i like it nixus
[03:25] <Nixus> <3
[03:25] <aegis> yes holstein... it's a known problem...  some people have gotten it working though.
[03:25] <Nixus> just added the conky
[03:26] <Nixus> might adjust the position on it
[03:26] <holstein> aegis: sure, but is it a problem with xubuntu? xubuntu shouldnt be doing anything to block it.. i would look at, and try different RDP clients, or another connection setup..
[03:26] <remline> Nixus, does that use the standard Panel application, or did you install a custom one?
[03:27] <holstein> the bottom right is a panel.. the middle looks like plank
[03:28] <Unit193> aegis: I see that as well, you are on trusty?
[03:28] <aegis> Unit193, yes... trusty
[03:29] <Nixus> thank you!
[03:29] <Nixus> pretty new to linux, just around 6 months
[03:30] <Unit193> Seems using x11rdp as the backend is the trick.
[03:30] <aegis> hmmm
[03:30] <aegis> so everyone suggests using this x11rdp-o-matic
[03:30] <aegis> http://scarygliders.net/2013/07/25/x11rdp-o-matic-version-3-now-released/
[03:30] <aegis> is that what you mean Unity193?
[03:30] <aegis> Unit193,
[03:31] <holstein> !info x11rdp
[03:32] <Unit193> http://sourceforge.net/p/xrdp/mailman/message/31379218/ was one of the things I was looking at, but I don't use rdp except for vbox.
[03:33] <holstein> Unit193: you use the "baked in" rdp? in vbox?
[03:33] <Unit193> holstein: Yes, which is entirely unrelated.
[03:33] <holstein> yeah.. not a "Fix" here,for sure..
[03:34] <aegis> thanks...  I think you guys are onto something with the x11rdp
[03:54] <Unit193> I'm sorry I can't say, only used VNC in terms of remote desktop control.
[04:28] <Nixus> anyone wanna share their desktop?
[04:29] <holstein> Nixus: maybe try one of the offtopic social channels..
[04:30] <Nixus> woops, worry wrong channel, sorry :/
[04:31] <aegis> Unit193, holstein that script worked perfectly...  took about 20 minutes to compile... but copy/paste works fine now.
[04:31] <aegis> http://scarygliders.net/2013/07/25/x11rdp-o-matic-version-3-now-released/
[04:31] <aegis> http://scarygliders.net/x11rdp-o-matic-information/
[04:32] <aegis> ^^^ more current
[05:18] <xubuntu322> hi, I am installing this free OS on my old dell desktop - p3
[05:20] <Unit193> On a p3?  Good luck, man!
[05:20] <xubuntu322> everything looks good so far. I hope it does not mess up my basic millenium install.
[05:21] <xubuntu322> ^millennium
[05:22] <xubuntu322> yes, it is an intel p3 with 512mb ram, and a 20gb hd.
[05:23] <xubuntu322> did have a bit of trouble with the install/setup. could not figure out how to create a swap partiton
[06:04] <NoticeMeSenpai> is it a big deal if i installed ubuntu and then installed xfce or should i download and install xubuntu instead?
[06:05] <cfhowlett_> NoticeMeSenpai, given a choice: you want xubuntu, install xubuntu
[06:05] <NoticeMeSenpai> i mean i already did ubuntu is it worth reinstalling?  I should have worded that better
[06:06] <cfhowlett_> NoticeMeSenpai, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:06] <NoticeMeSenpai> yep just did that :D
[06:06] <cfhowlett_> NoticeMeSenpai, note: adding xfce will ONLY add the desktop environment, not xubuntu default apss
[06:06] <cfhowlett_> *apps*
[06:06] <NoticeMeSenpai> ahh so if I just installed why not just do xubuntu i guess ill start downloading
[06:15] <Unit193> NoticeMeSenpai: Then you'll still have unity and all default Ubuntu applications, but it does still work, yes.
[06:16] <Unit193> Though I would recommend  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop^  over just installing the meta.
[06:19] <NoticeMeSenpai> the meta?
[06:22] <NoticeMeSenpai> i literally just installed ubuntu anyway and the iso is downloading i guess its not really a big deal to reinstall heh
[06:24] <Unit193> Heh, it is pretty easy and fast, yeah.
[07:34] <aegis> xubuntu is pretty awesome
[07:36] <AgAu> yep!
[09:00] <dirgeable_> hi, i cannot select any new version instead of long term in software manager
[09:00] <dirgeable_> anyone know of a solution?
[09:01] <elfy> have you set software and updates to notify for any new version on the update tab?
[09:02] <dirgeable_> elfy, when i click it it simply stays on only long term
[09:02] <elfy> ok - and what version are you currently running?
[09:03] <dirgeable_> elfy, how do i check, sorry installed a long time ago
[09:06] <dirgeable_> elfy, fixed it i think
[09:06] <dirgeable_> :)
[09:50] <brainwash> remline: that's bug 1311685
[10:59] <ethical_anarhist> hi, does anybody here know how to setup bitcoind on xubuntu, i've searched everywhere already, but no answer
[11:12] <knome> !foocoin | ethical_anarhist
[11:12] <ethical_anarhist> thanks, will do
[12:20] <remline> Thanks for the bug link, brainwash, it sounds like this behavior started with Trusty
[13:13] <noobuntu> Is there a way I can permanently delete the XFCE Power Manager? I hate having two battery symbols in my taskbar
[13:15] <deshipu> just uninstall it
[13:15] <noobuntu> Can't find the package name to uninstall in terminal and I don't have a right click uninstall
[13:15] <noobuntu> also not in ubuntu store
[13:16] <brainwash> noobuntu: xfce4-power-manager
[13:17] <brainwash> but you can run xfce4-power-manager-settings and just hide the tray icon
[13:17] <noobuntu> Thank you. But everytime I reboot it shows up again
[13:19] <brainwash> maybe it was not able/allowed to update its config file, so changes are only temporary
[13:20] <brainwash> but you are free to remove the package if you don't need any of its features
[13:20] <Unit193> Or remove indicator-power...
[13:32] <uber_hulk> Hi all.
[13:32] <uber_hulk> I am trying to install awesome wm
[13:32] <uber_hulk> and I getting this error https://bpaste.net/show/0e5176b2c227
[13:32] <uber_hulk> How can I solve it?
[13:37] <koegs> uber_hulk: did you try "sudo apt-get update"?
[13:37] <uber_hulk> koegs: yes, also I tried upgrade, sudo apt-get -f install
[13:37] <uber_hulk> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/06/install-latest-awesome-window-manager-ubuntu/
[13:37] <uber_hulk> I install awesome wm using this guide^
[13:38] <koegs> so you use that ppa?
[13:38] <uber_hulk> and then I removed it when I was in awesome env itself
[13:38] <uber_hulk> is that broke it?
[13:38] <uber_hulk> koegs: yes I did that
[13:38] <uber_hulk> +use that
[13:38] <koegs> i use awesome without ppa
[13:38] <uber_hulk> koegs: how do I remove that ppa?
[13:38] <uber_hulk> Or I can't undo what I've done?
[13:39] <koegs> sudo ppa-purge ppa:klaus-vormweg/awesome
[13:39] <uber_hulk> ppa-purge command not found
[13:39] <uber_hulk> koegs: ^
[13:40] <koegs> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge :)
[13:42] <uber_hulk> ;)
[13:54] <uber_hulk> koegs: you using awesome 3.5.5?
[13:55] <koegs> nope, the standard 3.4.15 coming with xubuntu 14.04
[13:56] <uber_hulk> koegs: okay but if I want to use 3.5.5 how do I do that?
[13:56] <uber_hulk> without using the ppa which is breaking ti
[13:57] <koegs> ppa would be the easiest way, but then you have to ask the ppa-maintainer why it is broken
[13:57] <koegs> uber_hulk: do you really need 3.5 or do you just want to have the latest version?
[13:58] <koegs> because 3.4 is completely stable
[13:58] <uber_hulk> I see
[13:58] <uber_hulk> okay, thanks koegs  :)
[13:58] <cfhowlett> uber_hulk, bleeding edge tends to be bloody ... perhaps better to wait for it to hit be included in repos
[13:58] <uber_hulk> right, okay then i will have the current stable one
[13:59] <koegs> i am happy that ubuntu still uses 3.4, no time to rewrite the config for 3.5 :D
[13:59] <uber_hulk> hmm
[13:59] <uber_hulk> okay checking it up then
[13:59] <uber_hulk> br
[13:59] <uber_hulk> +b
[14:24] <uber_hulk> hi
[14:24] <uber_hulk> any solution to this https://bpaste.net/show/7acf36e33808 ?
[15:12] <Grandmother> Hello people!
[15:14] <Grandmother> Im sitting in the middle of an install of xubuntu and it "freezes"  whem creating a new ext4 file system.
[15:14] <Grandmother> i keep getting this error message:
[15:15] <Grandmother>      /usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/gtk_components/nmwidgets.py:131: Warning: Source ID 70408 was not found when attempting to remove it   GLib.source_remove(self.rows_changed_id)
[15:19] <brainwash> Grandmother: that a warning message
[15:20] <Grandmother> yes but i thought it might be realted to the lack of progress of the installer.
[15:21] <brainwash> I'm not that familiar with the installer, best place to ask would be #ubuntu
[15:21] <Grandmother> The installer does not freeze its just that no progress is made.
[15:22] <Grandmother> Okay il keep looking.
[15:23] <brainwash> the installer is not xubuntu specific. the install produce is logged, so looking at the log files should help
[15:25] <brainwash> procedure I mean
[15:25] <brainwash> -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity
[16:10] <sim642> I'm trying to edit the main menu to add an icon to a program's shortcut, but when I choose the png for image it loads and shows it properly but when I click OK, it's gone
[16:16] <sim642> I've been using alacarte for that
[16:54] <DoDiesis> Good evening, may I speak Italian or only English?
[16:55] <cfhowlett> !it | DoDiesis
[16:55] <cfhowlett> DoDiesis, but if speak English, ask here
[16:56] <DoDiesis> thanks cfhowlett. My problem is taht today, while atempting to enter the sistem, I only got a black screen. Nothing happened
[16:56] <DoDiesis> xubuntu did not start
[16:56] <cfhowlett> DoDiesis, new installation?
[16:56] <DoDiesis> cfhowlett: no, I only placed some updates and then switched off the system
[16:56] <DoDiesis> now I am using a live CD
[16:57] <cfhowlett> DoDiesis, was one of those updates the kernel?
[16:57] <DoDiesis> can't remember exactly... I think not. I just moved some directories and then went off
[16:57] <DoDiesis> I moved the directory "documents"
[16:58] <DoDiesis> now I am here using a live cd on my computer where there is only xubuntu 12.04
[16:58] <cfhowlett> DoDiesis, that shouldn't freeze frame you.  try this: reboot.  at grub, choose advanced options and boot an older version of ubuntu.  kernel upgrades sometimes cause hiccups
[16:59] <DoDiesis> I think it is impossible beause I receive a strange message BASH... and something else. Then I have the prompt GRUB> and nothing more
[17:01] <cfhowlett> DoDiesis, right.  OK, are you dual booting
[17:01] <DoDiesis> No, I only have xubuntu 12.04 here
[17:01] <cfhowlett> DoDiesis, brilliant.  reinstall grub
[17:01] <cfhowlett> !grub2
[17:02] <DoDiesis> could you tell me kindly how to do this? :-)
[17:02] <cfhowlett> DoDiesis, read the wiki, amigo  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub#The_terminal_way
[17:02] <cfhowlett> DoDiesis, or would that be "paisan"?
[17:04] <uber_hulk> uber_hulk> Hi all. while playing around I broke some dependencies and I am seeing this problemm http://askubuntu.com/questions/485999/apt-indicator-errorbrokencount0
[17:04] <DoDiesis> cfhowlett: no, I think it is good, but before coming here I tried to do it by myself and obtained the bad result I wrote before. If you think I should retry, I will do it, hoping that this time Isucceed
[17:05] <cfhowlett> DoDiesis, assuming 1. underlying OS is good, then reinstalling grub should quickly cure you
[17:06] <DoDiesis> well, ok. So I will go to the page you advised me and I should solve my problem. Have I understood correctly?
[17:06] <cfhowlett> DoDiesis, yes,
[17:07] <DoDiesis> cfhowlett: thank you so much. A last question: Can I do all that remaining with this live CD? or there is another way to do so?
[17:07] <cfhowlett> DoDiesis, yes, live cd is required.
[17:08] <DoDiesis> perfect. Now I go and try. Thousend thanks to you! :)
[17:08] <cfhowlett> DoDiesis, happy2help
[17:08] <DoDiesis> :-) bye for now :-)
[17:16] <xubuntu511> mu
[17:16] <xubuntu511> hi
[17:32] <DoDiesis> Hi all, hi cfhowlett
[17:32] <DoDiesis> Unfortunately I did not succeed reisnstalling grub
[17:33] <DoDiesis> At booting, after BIOS check, I receive the same message as before (Minimal bash-like line editing is supported...)
[17:34] <DoDiesis> shal I format and reinstall my favourite OS Linux Xubuntu?
[17:36] <DoDiesis> I see that cfhowlett is not here. Could somebody help me on making my system start again?
[17:39] <DoDiesis> Hello, could somebody help me? I speak Itlaian or English
[17:39] <DoDiesis> *Italian
[17:43] <DoDiesis> ok. no problem. Thanks anyway. Bye all
[18:42] <DoDiesis> Eccomi
[19:35] <eatyourguitar> how do I delete all partitions on /sdb usb?
[19:36] <eatyourguitar> unetbootin puts partitions that windows can not delete
[19:36] <eatyourguitar> I'm on xubuntu now
[19:36] <genii> use dd to put a bunch of zeros over the MBR
[19:36] <eatyourguitar> sudo dd
[19:37] <eatyourguitar> do I need to umount first?
[19:37] <genii> eatyourguitar: like:  sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1     ..and yes, unmounting is recommended
[19:38] <eatyourguitar> it says /dev/sdb not mounted /dev/sdb1 not mounted
[19:39] <eatyourguitar> but I am pretty sure xbuntu automounts
[19:39] <eatyourguitar> maybe cause the partitions are damaged?
[19:39] <genii> Could be any number of reasons
[19:40] <eatyourguitar> what about fdisk
[19:40] <genii> eatyourguitar: At any rate, if it's mounted or not not mounted, that dd command will wipe out the mbr and it will think now it has no partitions
[19:41] <eatyourguitar> sdb returned 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.00929667 s, 55.1 kB/s
[19:41] <eatyourguitar> sdb1 returned 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.00929667 s, 55.1 kB/s
[19:41] <eatyourguitar> wait
[19:42] <eatyourguitar> sdb1 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.00444334 s, 115 kB/s
[19:42] <genii> Should jus be sdb and not sdb1
[19:42] <genii> ( the entire disk, not it's first partition)
[19:42] <eatyourguitar> cause if I mount or umount it uses sdb
[19:42] <eatyourguitar> when I open the mounted device in xfce I do find target
[19:42] <eatyourguitar> then I get sdb1
[19:43] <genii> If it mounts sdb then it already doesn't have a partition. You can format a raw disk and mount it, but it's rarely done like this
[19:44] <genii> eatyourguitar: Probably using cached info. I would do: sudo eject /dev/sdb   and then physically pull it out, wait 10-12 seconds, then plug it in again
[19:45] <eatyourguitar> I think I figured out why
[19:45] <eatyourguitar> I used another usb storage device it has a different write speed for sdb
[19:45] <eatyourguitar> but sdb1 is the same
[19:45] <eatyourguitar> so sdb1 is cached in ram or hd
[19:46] <eatyourguitar> makes sense right?
[19:46] <genii> Not really
[19:47] <eatyourguitar> so I just wiped my two usb storage devices and now I can use windows to format fat32
[19:47] <genii> If you used that dd command, you will also need to make new partitions as well, before formatting them
[19:49] <consolidated> fdisk /dev/disk, sdb, whatever.... then press n p 1 and hit enter twice, then press t, c, a, 1. then mkfs -t vfat -F 32 /dev/sdb1 or whatever your partition is... i think.. thats memory from making a lot of fat32 formats a long time ago heh
[19:54] <eatyourguitar> it worked!
[19:54] <eatyourguitar> all sorted
[19:54] <eatyourguitar> and did not need to install anything
[19:54] <eatyourguitar> much thanks to you
[19:54] <eatyourguitar> the dd thing worked
[19:55] <eatyourguitar> ok so now I can make an easypeasy and a kali usb
[19:55] <consolidated> dd is very versatile
[19:55] <eatyourguitar> I used dd to make an audio loopback
[20:20] <Junka> does xubuntu  use alsa or pulseaudio
[20:21] <brainwash> Junka: pulseaudio, but technically both
[20:21] <brainwash> pulseaudio can be removed if you don't like it
[20:22] <Junka> brainwash: :)
[20:59] <xubuntu66w> Hello. I'm having trouble installing xubuntu on my laptop. I have the drive partitioned and would like to install xubuntu on one partition and leave Windows Vista on the other.
[20:59] <xubuntu66w> I have a dvd rom with xubuntu on it currently in the drive
[21:00] <knome> xubuntu66w, what's the problem?
[21:01] <xubuntu66w> I can't seem to get the installer to open. I've installed several other linux platforms before, but never xubuntu.
[21:02] <consolidated> xubuntu66w: i'm assuming the dvd is booting ok to to "try / install" screen?
[21:07] <xubuntu66w> It contains a series of folders for the install. I have tried opening the program in the "install" folder with no success. I can't get the .iso file on the drive.
[21:08] <xubuntu66w> I have teamviewer if necessary
[21:08] <eatyourguitar> I'm back
[21:08] <eatyourguitar> unetbootin does not see my usb drive as removable storage on windows since I erased the MBR with DD on linux
[21:09] <eatyourguitar> I tried to flip the removable bit
[21:09] <eatyourguitar> eject etc..
[21:09] <eatyourguitar> windows still sees it as removable
[21:09] <eatyourguitar> do I need to clear a cache in windows?
[21:09] <eatyourguitar> *nonremovable
[21:09] <eatyourguitar> thats the problem
[21:10] <consolidated> xubuntu66w: im sorry im slightly confused. does the DVD boot?
[21:10] <xubuntu66w> So it's a problem with the flash drive rather than the linux file?
[21:11] <xubuntu66w> It booted straight to windows. I could try a reboot.
[21:12] <consolidated> xubuntu66w: you said DVD before. did you burn the ISO to a dvd or write it out to a flash drive?
[21:15] <consolidated> eatyourguitar: did it see it as a removable disk before?
[21:15] <consolidated> i know theres an issue with newer USB drives no longer showing up as "removable" in windows
[21:16] <consolidated> and legacy apps needing it to be removable are breaking and MS, in very nice MS fashion, doesnt give a flying f
[21:16] <knome> consolidated, remember the language, this is a family-friendly channel
[21:16] <consolidated> *doesn't care  - apologies
[21:16] <knome> consolidated, it's okay :)
[21:16] <eatyourguitar> consolidated yes before I started doing things to the usb storage device in linux
[21:16] <eatyourguitar> I used unetbootin
[21:17] <eatyourguitar> but after I was done with the installer I wanted to delete all the partitions
[21:17] <eatyourguitar> the only way to delete them was dd command in linux
[21:17] <eatyourguitar> but it erased something on the MBR that makes the windows box see it as removable
[21:18] <eatyourguitar> the bootit removable bit flip util did not work
[21:18] <eatyourguitar> I can not edit the reg with regedit either
[21:18] <eatyourguitar> something is protected
[21:21] <consolidated> eatyourguitar: how did you partition and format it? did you do it in windows or did you do what i wrote a while back?
[21:21] <consolidated> according to google setting the active flag in fdisk can cause this... i don't know ive never tested etc... seeing if i have a usb stick thats "removable" now heh
[21:25] <eatyourguitar> I inserted it into my windows machine to format
[21:25] <eatyourguitar> but it was weird
[21:25] <eatyourguitar> it asked to format I said yes
[21:26] <eatyourguitar> it said fat32
[21:26] <eatyourguitar> then in disk management it says ntfs
[21:26] <eatyourguitar> then I formatted fat32 again
[21:26] <eatyourguitar> then I flipped the removable bit
[21:29] <consolidated> im trying to test but windows has decided it needs to update nvidia drivers first. it knows whats better for me.
[21:29] <eatyourguitar> sandisk does not have any firmware upgrade utils
[21:30] <eatyourguitar> not in the free app anyway
[21:30] <eatyourguitar> HP gives out firmware repair apps
[21:30] <eatyourguitar> they format and set all the flags and stuff after the firmware upgrade
[21:40] <consolidated> interesting...
[21:40] <consolidated> just did this on my 2gb flash laying around and no difference... still removable.
[21:41] <consolidated> theres a bunch of articles about sandisk drives changing from removable to non removable but it seemed to be more of a "newer drives don't show up as removable" thing and not the same drive. but i only scratched the surface of the allknowing goog
[21:43] <consolidated> if you plug it into a linux machine and check dmesg does it show up as removable? like "[sdf] Attached SCSI removable disk"
[21:44] <eatyourguitar> will you be here tomorrow?
[21:45] <eatyourguitar> I have to leave now
[21:46] <consolidated> maybe... i barely know what im doing in 10 mins... odds are i'll be procrastinating so yes probably here avoiding work.