[05:16] <Kilos> morning captine  ambo_  spinza  and other lurkers
[05:58] <Kilos> hi Tonberry_  
[05:59] <Tonberry_> hi
[08:07] <Kilos> hi gremble  
[08:07] <Kilos> didnt even hear you sneak in
[08:24] <Kilos> hi SilverCode  
[08:28] <SilverCode> morning Kilos
[08:44] <gremble> hey Kilos 
[08:48] <Kilos> stupid xperia forgot my password, and after much struggling to find where to set it again it now says certificate error, check date and time
[08:48] <Kilos> grrrr
[08:48] <Kilos> date and time are correct
[08:49]  * Kilos looks for a 4lb hammer
[09:00] <Kilos> hi Private_User  you logged in once only and cloaked so all good
[09:00] <Kilos> what did you do?
[09:00] <Kilos> ohi as well
[09:01] <gremble> Remember when I mentioned SASL authentication Kilos? 
[09:01] <gremble> That is what it is. You authenticate before you connect to the server
[09:01] <gremble> So when you are logged on, you are already authenticated and cloaked
[09:02] <Kilos> is that something extra one must do gremble  ?
[09:02] <gremble> It is an alternative form of authentication
[09:02] <Kilos> mine works so its not a prob here, maybe konversation sets it for me
[09:02] <gremble> Let me see if I can get a link for you
[09:03] <Kilos> ty
[09:04] <gremble> https://userbase.kde.org/Konversation/Configuring_SASL_authentication
[09:05] <Kilos> gracias
[09:05] <gremble> No problem
[09:05] <Private_User> hi Kilos, nice thanks so maybe it was the connectivity
[09:06] <Kilos> weird hey
[09:17] <Kilos> oh that
[09:17] <Kilos> ive seen it before 
[09:17] <Kilos> sjoe what a twit
[09:18] <Kilos> never bothered to use it before
[09:19] <gremble> With that you can log in even if somoene else is using your username
[09:19] <gremble> So you can ghost them without having to use a password
[09:19] <Kilos> aha ty
[10:43] <jrgns> hello all
[10:43] <jrgns> anyone up for some weird browsing debugging?
[10:54] <Kilos> hi jrgns  
[10:55] <Kilos> whats happening
[10:59] <jrgns> tracepath also can't get past my router
[11:00] <Kilos> can you ping google.com
[11:01] <jrgns> yup. DNS works fine
[11:01] <jrgns> ping www.google.com
[11:01] <jrgns> PING www.google.com (66.8.14.59) 56(84) bytes of data.
[11:01] <jrgns> 64 bytes from cache.google.com (66.8.14.59): icmp_seq=1 ttl=58 time=11.1 ms
[11:01] <Kilos> we need inetpro  
[11:01] <Kilos> what does your browser do or not do
[11:02] <jrgns> Browser can resolve the domain (DNS ok) and make a request it seems, and then get's stuck on "Waiting for www.google.com" until it fails with "The connection was reset"
[11:03] <Kilos> so the router is most likely blocking it?
[11:03] <jrgns> I'mg going through the router settings now to see if it's maybe a firewall setting or something on there that's screwing things up, but those weren't changed for ages
[11:03] <jrgns> and if the router is blocking it, why can curl requests go through?
[11:04] <Kilos> oh is it a worked before but now sick prob
[11:04] <jrgns> curl -v www.google.com > test.html
[11:04] <jrgns> Connected to www.google.com (66.8.14.57) port 80 (#0)
[11:04] <jrgns> > GET / HTTP/1.1
[11:04] <jrgns> > User-Agent: curl/7.35.0
[11:04] <jrgns> > Host: www.google.com
[11:04] <jrgns> > Accept: */*
[11:04] <jrgns> > 
[11:04] <jrgns> < HTTP/1.1 302 Found
[11:04] <jrgns> { [data not shown]
[11:04] <jrgns> 100   261  100   261    0     0    567      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--   568
[11:04] <jrgns> * Connection #0 to host www.google.com left intact
[11:05] <jrgns> (soz, can't slexy)
[11:05] <Kilos> np
[11:05] <jrgns> I can even follow the 302 and retrieve that
[11:05] <Kilos> restart the router
[11:05] <jrgns> and do https requests
[11:05] <jrgns> have done so numerous times since this started :(
[11:06] <Kilos> eish
[11:06] <Kilos> everyone is shopping atm looks like
[11:07] <Kilos> my router has a place in settings where i see whats connected and then just click allow that connection
[11:08] <Kilos> maybe storms messed something up there
[11:09] <Kilos> what router is it lets see what google says
[11:09] <jrgns> billion
[11:09] <Kilos> model?
[11:09] <jrgns> wireless G
[11:09] <jrgns> looking for the exact specs
[11:10] <Kilos> you here on irc using it atm?
[11:10] <jrgns> bipac 5200g r4
[11:10] <jrgns> yup
[11:10] <jrgns> and I can update and upgrade using apt
[11:10] <Kilos> you only got one browser?
[11:11] <jrgns> tried firefox and chromium
[11:11] <jrgns> going to try lynx now :)
[11:11] <Kilos> sjoe
[11:11] <jrgns> also tried incognito on FF, as wel as a clean profile
[11:12] <jrgns> brb
[11:14] <jrgns> the more I think about it, though, the more I think it's the router. I tried connecting using the same laptop from another line, another router, and it worked fine
[11:14] <jrgns> I'm going to reset the router, set it up again, and see what happens
[11:14] <Kilos> good luck
[11:15] <Kilos> i park my billion off to one side and dont use it
[11:15] <jrgns> any specific reason?
[11:15] <jrgns> what do you use?
[11:15] <Kilos> ya it kept disconnection 3g when im not active
[11:15] <Kilos> i use 3g direct to pc 
[11:16] <Kilos> i have a 7300nx
[11:16] <Kilos> only lug in when i want 2 pcs online at the same time
[11:24] <Kilos> wb jrgns  
[11:25] <jrgns> did a reset of the router. Still no happiness :(
[11:25] <Kilos> eish
[11:26] <jrgns> I'm going to try another router, see if that solves the problem
[11:29] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[11:29] <magespawn> hi Kilos
[11:31] <magespawn> i see on g+ there is about 60 people invited to the meeting
[11:31] <Kilos> lol
[11:31] <Kilos> 6 come
[11:33] <magespawn> then we must get the invites up to 600
[11:33] <Kilos> ya hahaha
[11:34] <gremble> nothing much happens though
[11:34] <Kilos> at the meets gremble  ?
[11:34] <gremble> ya
[11:35] <Kilos> yeah there are long periods when nothing happens but to remain a loco we must have them
[11:35] <magespawn> true, but i think it is difficult, people are so spread out, and always busy
[11:35] <Kilos> our prob is we are a few with no new blood with new ideas and energy to do things
[11:36] <Kilos> like even our ubuntu hours have died
[11:36] <Kilos> and release parties etc
[11:37] <Kilos> peeps are just too busy making ends meet
[11:39] <magespawn> those who famalies and jobs run out of time fast
[11:39] <magespawn> have ^
[11:39] <Kilos> yeah
[11:49] <Kilos> our meetings used to be alive when there was more time. peeps were always planning events and so on
[11:49] <Kilos> its up to us to try inject more life into everything
[11:49] <Kilos> thats why i got you invited here gremble  
[11:49] <Kilos> where is the guy that invited you? he has moved on now
[11:52] <gremble> He just disconnected from here :P
[11:52] <Kilos> grrrr
[11:52] <Kilos> well at least you stayed
[11:52] <Kilos> yay
[11:53] <gremble> Haha no, I mean he literaly just dc'd
[11:53] <gremble> it was kbmonkey
[11:53] <Kilos> oh ya i saw the
[11:53] <Kilos> i wonder how my monkey is doing
[11:53] <Kilos> shame
[11:54] <Kilos> soon ill rev him on his fone again
[11:54] <Kilos> stress gets him down i think
[12:00] <Kilos> aha
[12:00] <Kilos> wb kbmonkey  
[12:00] <Kilos> dont be afk all the time man
[12:01] <Kilos> kbmonkey  ping
[12:01] <Kilos> ai!
[13:09] <inetpro> goeie middag
[13:11] <inetpro> hmm... 
[13:12]  * inetpro wonders what jrgns' problem is 
[13:41] <gremble> he is also wondering I think
[14:16] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[14:16] <Kilos> jurhave you fixed it
[14:16] <Kilos> ai!
[14:16] <Kilos> jrgns  too
[14:17] <Kilos> i go fetch sheep
[14:18] <jrgns> Kilos: I'm still confirming, but it seems to be sorted now
[14:28] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:40] <Kilos> jrgns  wb
[14:40] <Kilos> tell the story man
[14:40] <jrgns> thanx. I'm back on the same router, same account... everything working fine. It might be telkom doing maintenance that somehow screwing things. But I have no idea exactly what the issue is
[14:41] <Kilos> oh my
[14:41] <Kilos> now if someone else comes with the same prob i have nothing to tell them i forgot
[14:41] <Kilos> sigh
[14:42] <Kilos> but im glad its working lad. enjoy the net
[14:42] <Kilos> hehe
[14:43] <Kilos> and dont forget our meeting here on tuesday night and 20.30
[14:43] <jrgns> hehe, i'll set an appointment
[14:43] <Kilos> at 20.30
[14:44] <Kilos> gremble  this one should be more interesting because the fly wants to use the stick on us
[14:46] <Kilos> what we need is a good flamewar, they seem to attract attention
[15:00] <gremble> What stick?
[15:00] <Kilos> one one those that hurts your butt
[15:01] <Kilos> i cant remember if he said stick or size 10 army boot
[15:01] <Kilos> but it was a rear end pain maker
[15:02] <gremble> If he wants to do things to your ass, keep us out of it :o
[15:02] <Kilos> lol
[15:03] <Kilos> one can see you younguns were never disciplined
[15:08] <Squirm> Hey folks
[15:08] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[15:12] <gremble> Hey Squirm 
[15:39] <Kilos> grumbles
[15:39] <Kilos> i mean gremble  
[15:40] <gremble> ?
[15:42] <Kilos> are you one of our members yet?
[15:42] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za
[15:44] <Kilos> oph i found where to see all members
[15:44] <Kilos> oh as well
[15:44] <Kilos> join join join man
[16:01] <gremble> I hang out here, but I don't think I'll join anything
[16:01] <Kilos> aw
[16:01]  * Kilos cries
[16:02] <Kilos> dont think man just do
[16:02] <Kilos> thinking is bad for the head
[16:04]  * Squirm looks around
[16:04]  * Squirm sweats
[16:04] <Squirm> so hot
[16:05] <Kilos> very hot here as well Squirm  
[16:05] <Squirm> Maaz: weather in Cape Town
[16:05] <Maaz> Squirm: In Cape Town, South Africa at 6:00 PM SAST on January 24, 2015: 20°C; Humidity: 83%; Wind: WNW at 41 km/h; Conditions: Mostly Cloudy; Sunrise/set: 5:58 AM SAST/7:56 PM SAST; Moonrise/set: 10:18 AM SAST/10:37 PM SAST
[16:05] <Squirm> lies!
[16:05] <Squirm> Maaz: weather in Muizenberg
[16:05] <Maaz> Squirm: City not found
[16:05] <Squirm> Maaz: weather in Southern Suburbs
[16:05] <Maaz> Squirm: In Baton Rouge, Louisiana at 9:53 AM CST on January 24, 2015: 7°C; Humidity: 68%; Wind: West at 9 km/h; Conditions: Clear; Sunrise/set: 6:59 AM CST/5:33 PM CST; Moonrise/set: 9:50 AM CST/10:27 PM CST
[16:05] <gremble> :p
[16:05] <Kilos> hehe
[16:06] <Kilos> wb Private_User  
[16:07] <Squirm> 25.3deg
[16:07] <Squirm> but feels so much hotter
[16:07] <Kilos> humidity
[16:07] <gremble> It is that humidity
[16:07] <gremble> Go take a dip in the sea
[16:07] <Kilos> lol
[16:07] <Squirm> 71%
[16:08] <Squirm> :/
[16:08] <Squirm> yeah...
[16:08] <Squirm> superfly: up for a swim? :D
[16:08] <gremble> Just watch out for the sharks
[16:08] <Kilos> that water can even cool a fridge down
[16:08] <Kilos> the fly is afk
[16:08] <Kilos> Squirm  have you been in that water yet?
[16:08] <Squirm> Once
[16:08] <Squirm> And it was nice
[16:08] <Kilos> its freezing
[16:09] <Kilos> eish
[16:09] <Squirm> very nice
[16:09] <Kilos> i couldnt get in past my ankles 
[16:10] <Squirm> and nuvo isn't around
[16:11] <Squirm> Hmm... Who else is up for the beach?
[16:11] <Kilos> lol
[16:11] <Kilos> plenty penguins
[16:11] <gremble> I'll go with you
[16:11] <Kilos> and whites
[16:11] <gremble> If you fly me down
[16:11] <gremble> :P
[16:11] <Squirm> :/
[16:11] <Squirm> gremble: where are you?"
[16:11] <gremble> Pretoria
[16:11] <gremble> :D
[16:12] <Squirm> That's not too far
[16:12] <Kilos> haha
[16:12] <Squirm> You'll be down by the time I want a swim tomorrow
[16:12] <Squirm> and home in time for work on Monday
[16:12] <Squirm> not too bad of a drive :P
[16:12] <gremble> If I fly down now, I'm failry sure I can be there before it is very dark
[16:12] <gremble> xD
[16:12] <Kilos> hahaha
[16:13] <gremble> fairly 
[16:13] <gremble> woah
[16:13] <gremble> I drove to grahamstown with the bus. I don't think I will be driving anywhere that far, soon
[16:16] <Kilos> i once drove to gordons bay and stellenbosch for a footup trials national
[16:16] <Kilos> towing a trailer with 3 bikes on
[16:16] <Kilos> many many hours
[16:37] <magespawn> home time back later all
[16:38] <Kilos> ai!
[17:02] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn  hows you and family?
[17:03] <nlsthzn> hey uncle Kilos ... alive and kicking... night shift finished now so more human... will look into those testimonials a bit later (or tomorrow morning)
[17:05] <Kilos> great ty nlsthzn  
[17:06] <Kilos> would be nice if they would make a membership available for all loco members regardless of contributions
[17:07] <nlsthzn> that would make it pointless
[17:08] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:39] <superfly> *sigh*
[17:40] <Kilos> evening superfly  looks like no luck yet
[18:00] <Kilos> wb bmg505  
[18:08] <superfly> Hopefully it will be fixed
[18:08] <superfly> Soon
[18:08] <Kilos> yeah
[18:21] <superfly> Squirm: how's the wind? It came up a little while ago and helped cool things down, but now it's not blowing anymore
[18:42] <Squirm> superfly: It's sad
[18:43] <Squirm> It was amazing, when it came. The mountain Tokai forest is on was completely covered in cloud
[18:43] <Squirm> Thought it might actually rain
[18:43] <Squirm> But no rain clouds, just the nice cool wind :/
[18:44] <Squirm> But hey, my room is boiling hot, going to buy a fan tomorrow. But for now, I'm off to Claremont for the evening :) Just got out of a "cold" shower... Which wasn't too cold :/
[18:48] <Squirm> superfly: get everyone to the beach tomorrow, there's a pub there I know that sells cold beer ;)
[18:48] <Squirm> chat to you all tomorrow
[18:48] <Kilos> enjoy
[18:55] <Kilos> wb neelsie
[18:57] <nlsthzn> thanks :)
[19:07] <Kilos> hi captine  
[19:14] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[19:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> lo
[19:17] <superfly> Hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[19:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> hi fly
[19:27] <inetpro> hi superfly
[19:28] <inetpro> oh and hi Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy and everyone else :-)
[19:28] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[19:28]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[19:28] <Kilos> lol hi inetpro  
[19:28] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[19:28] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[19:28] <inetpro> what's happening in ubuntu-za land?
[19:28] <Kilos> min
[19:29]  * inetpro noticed
[19:29] <Kilos> fly still got no power ans Squirm  gone jolling
[19:29] <inetpro> and /me is tired again
[19:29] <Kilos> again
[19:30] <inetpro> maybe even still
[19:30] <Kilos> its saterday man. what you been doing
[19:30] <inetpro> changed car battery today
[19:30] <Kilos> you or battery centr
[19:30] <Kilos> centre
[19:30] <inetpro> took it to the battery centre, tested and found a dead cell
[19:30] <Kilos> they arent cheap anymore either
[19:31] <inetpro> R1500 to get a new one
[19:31] <Kilos> eish
[19:31] <inetpro> yep, it hurts
[19:31] <Kilos> many months od data
[19:31] <Kilos> you clever okes must fing a way to make money online man
[19:31] <Kilos> find
[19:32] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!
[19:32] <inetpro> and this one lasted only like three years
[19:32] <inetpro> Maaz: dankie baie
[19:32] <Maaz> Geniet jou koppie boeretroos inetpro
[19:32] <Kilos> yip only original batteries last longer
[19:33] <Kilos> you actually lucky to make 3 years
[19:33] <Kilos> Maaz  thanks man
[19:33] <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[19:33] <inetpro> well it was a Silver Calcium battery, should have got more out of it
[19:33] <Kilos> ai!
[19:34] <Kilos> normal batteries you are lucky if they make 1 1/2 years
[19:34] <inetpro> serious!?
[19:34] <Kilos> yip
[19:35] <Kilos> we alsways said that they make them just to make the 1 year garauntee
[19:35]  * inetpro read online that the mean time for Silver Calsium batteries should be more like 6 years
[19:35] <Kilos> wow
[19:35] <superfly> Hi inetpro, still no adsl here
[19:35] <Kilos> murphy visits you too
[19:35] <superfly> Busy making cheesecake 
[19:35] <Kilos> mail some superfly  
[19:36] <inetpro> Kilos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_calcium_battery#Technological_information
[19:36] <inetpro> but I also see that it generally requires more charging voltage
[19:37] <Kilos> they talk nonsense about alternators generating power
[19:37] <inetpro> my car's charging voltage seems to be only 14.00V
[19:37] <Kilos> i set my regs to charge 15v always to improve output power on 2 way radios
[19:38] <Kilos> cant you set the regulator on new cars?
[19:39]  * inetpro has no idea where to set that
[19:39] <Kilos> so what do cars use now to charge in alternators werent good enough
[19:40] <Kilos> most likely everything is in sealed units nowadays
[19:40] <inetpro> me older car charges at 14.5V
[19:41] <Kilos> today you need to make big bucks just to be able to pay others to fix everything
[19:41] <inetpro> yep, no way I can even do that, so need to find very good reason to pay anything
[19:42] <Kilos> look online for a workshop manual and see in there if one can charge higher
[19:42] <Kilos> battery centre should have sorted it for you
[19:43] <inetpro> heh, would be nice if I can find that
[19:43] <inetpro> I want to go back to the guy and find out more
[19:43] <Kilos> google is your friend
[19:43] <inetpro> workdhop manuals are hard to get man
[19:44] <Kilos> google haynes workshop manual for "make and model"
[19:44] <Kilos> maybe put free download in
[19:47] <Kilos> ive seen some workshop manual you can read online
[19:47] <Kilos> google how to increase charging rate on "make and model"
[19:55] <Kilos> but remember on old type batteries ideal charging rate is 13.8v
[19:55] <Kilos> for longer battery life
[19:56] <Kilos> 14.5v seems good for them silver things
[20:05] <superfly> too high, and you kill the battery, too low and the battery starts eating itself
[20:05] <superfly> (basicallly)
[20:05] <Kilos> yip
[20:06] <Kilos> i used to use 15v for the extra power it gave 2 way radio, but batteries were quite cheap then
[20:38] <Kilos> hmm...
[20:54] <Kilos> night all. sleepnight all. sleep tight