[02:39] <haven> Hi, I have a question about Ubuntu 14.10 torrent downloads and hashmarks.  I have downloaded Ubuntu Studio 14.10 64-bit via BitTorrent twice, and I got the same hashmark both times, but it doesn't match the MD5SUMS listed on the page
[02:44] <haven> It seems odd to me that it would get the same wrong hashmark twice in a row.
[02:49] <coelebs> haven: are you sure it's md5suns and not some other hash?
[02:50] <haven> Good question.  Yes, it's md5sums
[02:51] <coelebs> weird. i thought bittorrent would auto correct file
[02:52] <Unit193> It checks hashes, so of course it does.  Where did you get the md5sum exactly and what torrent?
[02:52] <haven> Well, let me rephrase that.  On the Properties screen of Transmission, it's listed as a "Hash" and I checked the MD5SUMS.  I looked at the other hashes on the Ubuntu Studio page and they looked completely different.
[02:53] <coelebs> you didnt run md5sums yourself?
[02:53] <Unit193> haven: That'd likely be the infohash..
[02:54] <haven> Hmm...interesting.  Let me try running md5sums and see
[02:56] <haven> actually, i'm trying to remember how to run md5sums.  I know i did it with a separate install but don't remember how now.
[02:57] <Unit193> md5sum file.iso
[02:57] <haven> in terminal mode?
[03:05] <haven> it keeps on telling me there's no such file or directory
[03:07] <haven> oh wait, I got it.
[03:09] <haven> it matches.  Thanks for your help!
[03:19] <Unit193> Sure thing. :)
[03:37] <exxxit> hello everyone! I´m getting an error while updating. The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available. 15 of these messages actually. any help on fixing this please? thanks
[03:49] <holstein> delt: you may need both
[03:49] <holstein> delt: i would expect issues, and workarounds as gtk changes
[03:49] <Unit193> exxxit: Did you add any extra repos/ppas?
[03:50] <holstein> !ppa
[08:32] <hd> Ubuntu Studio 14.10 are operating nicely.
[18:38] <delt> hello
[18:38] <delt> i think my laptop has a slight problem with localization....
[18:39] <delt> at least xfce4-terminal... take a look: http://www.deimos.ca/miscjunk/xfce4-terminal-locale.png
[18:40] <holstein> you mean, your xfce4-terminal settings? delt ?
[18:41] <holstein> i know, one thing i do is use terminator.. i think most folks have a favorite term emulator
[18:41] <delt> terminator?
[18:41] <delt> xfce's term has always worked great for me.
[18:41] <holstein> delt: ok
[18:42] <delt> but i'm open to trying out others =) of course
[18:42] <holstein> delt: i thought you were demonstrating a point where its actually *not* working well for you
[18:42] <holstein> !info terminator
[18:42] <delt> haha, you are right as always my friend :D i forgot to mention that slight little detail
[18:43] <holstein> im not sure if you are openting a file there, or typing? or parsing, piping..
[18:43] <delt> ok, gonna check it out..... i'll be back (get it :D )
[18:43] <holstein> looks to me like an error message about a file..
[18:43] <delt> oh in that screenshot, compiling
[18:43] <holstein> compiling what?
[18:43] <delt> xfce stuff
[18:44] <holstein> you are compiling xfce4-terminal? why?
[18:44] <delt> no, not terminal
[18:44] <holstein> anyways, where ever you get the "source" for that will be responsible for the support
[18:44] <holstein> we dont even directly change anything in the repos..
[18:44] <holstein> all the xfce stuff just comes into studio
[18:44] <holstein> thats the "rub".. if you want to use other software than what is in the repos..
[18:45] <delt> see, i'm currently working on implementing "zoom" (old mac) style window animations to xfce's window manager
[18:45] <holstein> sure..
[18:45] <holstein> expect issues as you change large parts of the system from the default versions
[18:45] <delt> those little animations that show you where a window is "going to" or "coming from" when you minimize, close, open, etc...
[18:46] <holstein> sure.. i always just use something with compositing.. a "plugin".. or a window manager that just does what i want
[18:46] <delt> like i was telling you a while ago, i installed linux on my parents laptop, because they were sick of windows always crashing.. but sometimes they were confused about where to click to get a window back, or stuff like that.
[18:46] <holstein> sure
[18:46] <holstein> so, try something more like what they had
[18:46] <holstein> mate
[18:47] <holstein> there would be "training" involved in even a newer version of windows..
[18:47] <delt> so, after my neighbour asked me to fix stuff on his mac, i was "inspired" to try installing a modified osx on my laptop (didn't work very well) then on my desktop machine
[18:48] <delt> so, these nifty little animations in osx reminded me of the good old days where i was a teenager composing music on a mac plus :D :D :D
[18:48] <holstein> sure
[18:48] <delt> and i thought... hey, why doesn't xfce have those?
[18:48] <holstein> there are default distros that just do that
[18:48] <holstein> deepin, etc..
[18:48] <delt> yeah, kde, etc etc
[18:48] <holstein> delt: xfce doesnt have them... thats all
[18:48] <delt> but i like xfce
[18:48] <delt> until now
[18:49] <holstein> delt: if you want to hack at it, you can, and you will likely break it pretty badly, and make it run unstable/slow
[18:49] <delt> i'm working with the guys in #xfce-dev
[18:49] <holstein> i would go to a rolling release with the most current versions of xfce, and go from there
[18:49] <holstein> delt: sure, but you are not working with a distro that has those packages
[18:49] <delt> i took several (bad) approaches, now i think i'm (mostly) on the right track....
[18:50] <delt> it's a good thing for me to work on this project, because my C was kind of rusty (since the college days i hadn't been actively coding)
[18:51] <holstein> the issue will be, when you change a lot of xubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntustudio around.. you cant get support in the ubuntu community, becasue you are not using ubuntu anymore..a nd you cant get support at xfce, since, you are using the unstable packages..
[18:51] <holstein> not that thats a big deal for a "power user", who keeps things backed up.. but, giving a system like this to a new linux user could be quite bad.. with an unstable UI..
[18:52] <delt> yeah i know
[18:53] <delt> but i'd be really glad if my zoomanim stuff makes it into the next version :D or maybe it will take a bit longer until it's reviewed, alpha/beta tested, and considered stable enough to be part of the main xfce branch
[18:53] <holstein> delt: if its implemented, it will be implemented
[18:53] <holstein> delt: you have many ways to make what you want zoom..
[18:53] <delt> ....?
[18:53] <delt> 13:51 < holstein> delt: if its implemented, it will be implemented
[18:53] <holstein> delt: correct
[18:53] <delt> dunno if i understand what you meant.
[18:54] <holstein> delt: you want zoom.. and thats *great*.. but, you dont have to wait around on xfce to implement it
[18:54] <holstein> when i wanted zoom, i put compiz back on.. and used that
[18:54] <holstein> i also, after that, used a few other compositors with zoom
[18:54] <delt> but i want xfce to have zoom, so i started coding
[18:54] <holstein> worked fine.
[18:54] <holstein> sure. the issue is, others dont
[18:55] <delt> that's why i added settings to enable/disable it
[18:55] <delt> and they are off by default on a new/default install
[18:56] <delt> right now i'm futzing around with having the notify and indicator panel plugin add an Xproperty to the root window, to map icon geometries to WM_CLASS names
[18:57] <delt> without stepping on each other's toes (ie. overwriting what the other is putting there0
[18:57] <delt> )
[18:57] <delt> waiting for the main xfce dev/maintainer to add a function to the api... someone else is also (he wants to implement window thumbnails)
[18:58] <delt> s/api/compositor api/
[19:00] <delt> anyway, back to coding... thanks very much for your help/input/opinions
[19:00] <delt> (and no, i'm not installing compiz on my parents laptop)
[20:39] <xxavi> hi
[20:39] <xxavi> how can I change the TTY resolution ?
[20:41] <Unit193> This should do it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution
[20:47] <xxavi> Unit193: don't work this solution for me
[21:21] <holstein> xxavi: do you have a question that i can help you with?
[21:24] <studio_> hy
[21:33] <xxavi> holstein: yes; how can I change the TTY resolution ?
[21:34] <holstein> !tty
[21:34] <holstein> xxavi: the link Unit193 shared is where i would start..
[21:34] <holstein> if it didnt work, i would share an error, or a message..
[21:36] <xxavi> ubottu, holstein: simply that solution ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution ) don't change the resolution
[21:38] <Unit193> Care to share /var/log/boot.log ?
[23:32] <xxavi> Unit193: http://pastebin.com/YeH00P0C
[23:34] <Unit193> Bah, doesn't hit soon enough.