[04:18] <bluesabre> elfy: uploaded a new abiword from debian into -staging... if you want to check it out tomorrow and see if things work any better for you
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[12:37] <brainwash> elfy: hey, do you think it would help to activate descriptions in whisker menu? this way every launcher would display its Comment= parameter
[12:38] <brainwash> would also solve bug 1396804
[12:38] <ubottu> bug 1396804 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Name For Thunar Settings Launcher Is Unclear (thunar-settings.desktop)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1396804
[12:39] <brainwash> or are the additional comments an annoyance for the average user?
[12:40] <brainwash> comments/descriptions
[12:50] <knome> they are very random and eat up a lot of space. it'd also mean we'd use larger icons. those are few of the reasons they are hidden
[12:52] <brainwash> they do add some bloat. I've enabled the descriptions and after some time I did not mind the extra text anymore
[12:52] <brainwash> larger icons are always nice :)
[13:16] <jjfrv8> bluesabre, elfy, abiword 3.0.1 looks good from here.
[13:19] <knome> brainwash, subjective...
[13:20] <brainwash> knome: it is. just trying to figure out what's best for the average user
[13:20] <knome> well for the bug you mentioned, i don't think adding the descriptions would be what the OP wanted... just a workaround
[13:21] <knome> it should be fixed in some other way (maybe a different icon or sth)
[13:22] <brainwash> he wants to distinguish the two launchers, and by making the description visible he will be able to
[13:22] <knome> brainwash, sure... but if he doesn't want to show the descriptions, then it's just a workaround
[13:23] <knome> and i can empathise that very much, it's a problem with the .desktop files, not the configuration
[13:23] <bluesabre> jjfrv8: did you have any issues with the prior version?
[13:25] <jjfrv8> bluesabre, I was the one who found the bug. By running the testcase :)
[13:25] <brainwash> knome: but we cannot rename the desktop files
[13:26] <knome> brainwash, "cannot" is a bit wrong, but i understand what you are saying... we can probably use another icon for the settings though
[13:26] <jjfrv8> bluesabre, and yes, the bug was still there just prior to running your update this morning.
[13:28] <brainwash> knome: another icon.. yeah, this could work
[13:29] <brainwash> knome: basically a folder icon with a little cog wheel
[13:30] <knome> yep
[13:31] <brainwash> this new icon would also show up in the settings manager, but that's fine I guess
[13:31] <brainwash> so we could forward this change upstream
[13:31] <knome> yes, that's fair
[13:32] <brainwash> in case such an icon already exists (freedesktop standard)
[13:32] <brainwash> I assume so
[13:33] <knome> or we can draw one
[13:33] <bluesabre> jjfrv8: great!
[13:41] <jjfrv8> elfy, for tracking purposes, which do you prefer: editing the existing testcase result and changing it from Failed to Passed, or creating a new one with an appropriate comment?
[15:05] <elfy> jjfrv8: related to what? package or ... 
[15:08] <jjfrv8> elfy, the package testcases
[15:09] <elfy> be best to just report again I would think
[15:09] <elfy> is this abiword? 
[15:10] <jjfrv8> yes, and that's what I did. Re-ran the testcase and filed a new result.
[15:10] <elfy> awesome - thanks jjfrv8 :)
[15:10] <jjfrv8> welcome
[15:18] <knome> bbl