[00:06] <cyber023> Could somebody help me set up my 3 screens on gtx770
[01:13] <gugi_> Hi, i have just installed xubuntu and i'm having troubles with web browsers sometimes i open the web browser and the computer just freezes it happened before when i had xubuntu on ubuntu the browsers work well
[01:13] <gugi_> someone can help me?
[01:14] <gugi_> it happens with firefox and chromium
[01:15] <gugi_> and when i can run firefox without freezes and then run the icedtea plugin it freezes, icedtea used to work on ubuntu
[01:16] <gugi_> everything works just fine is a browser only issue
[01:17] <gugi_> browsers are consumig a lot of CPU also
[01:58] <Nixus> gmm
[01:59] <Nixus> all browser consume lots of cpu. on my netbook/laptop, web browsing maxes the cpu 100%
[02:00] <xangua> depends on the websites you visit
[02:01] <xangua> an idle browser consumes around 2 or 3% cpu
[04:20] <Evil_Eric> xubuntu + SSD ='s pure linux love
[05:32] <uber_hulk> Hi. Can i access my encrypted disk using live usb?
[05:58] <Nixus> any trim scripts I need to know about in Xubuntu 14.10?
[06:07] <forestpiskie> really quick ones?
[11:15] <bazhang> uber_hulk, you still did not do a fresh install, with all those debian repos and ppa?
[13:02] <Junka> is it safe to remove gigolo?
[13:03] <Junka> i mean does it impact the system? i dont use it
[13:13] <bluesabre> Junka, yes... gigolo is only a frontend for connecting to filesystems, it's unnecessary
[13:13] <bluesabre> thunar can do everything it does by itself
[13:13] <Junka> bluesabre: thanks
[13:15] <flux242> hi, the dialog menu that appears by right-clicking on the desktop, is it possible to adjust it?
[13:16] <Junka> can i remove the optional add on gvfs-bin ?
[13:16] <Junka> or rather should i?
[13:17] <flux242> Junka: i don't have it
[13:20] <knome> Junka, don't try to remove everything you don't need... you'll soon notice something is not working and at that point, it's much harder to debug what went wrong
[13:21] <Junka> knome: ok I will just remove gigolo then
[13:23] <flux242> knome: maybe if lots of crap were not installed by default it wouldn't be necessary to remove anything
[13:23] <knome> flux242, you can use the minimal ISO if you think there's too much stuff installed
[13:24] <flux242> knome: that's what i'm doiing
[13:24] <flux242> http://flux242.blogspot.de/2014/05/minimal-xubuntu-1404-lts-installation.html
[13:24] <knome> flux242, i don't get where you're trying to get with your comments though
[13:27] <flux242> it's about not removing anything unnecessary
[13:28] <Junka> there is a popularity contest cron script? O.O
[13:28] <knome> flux242, i didn't say "anything"
[13:29] <knome> flux242, i've seen too many average users rip all kinds of libraries and packages out of their system and left with a broken one that i do not suggest that any more
[13:30] <Junka> does orage calendar integrate with the default "clock" plugin?
[13:30] <knome> flux242, such a system is on the borderlines of being "supported" as well, since there's no way people helping to know what the real system state is
[13:49] <Junka> how can i integrate orage calendar to the clock
[13:50] <flux242> Junka: what does orage do?
[13:50] <flux242> i don't have it
[13:51] <knome> Junka, add the orage panel applet
[13:52] <flux242> because if you install xfce4-datetime-plugin the calendar is shown by left click. There was a default clock applet though which i don't know any longer if it shows a calendar
[13:52] <Junka> yes true
[13:52] <knome> right, datetime it is
[13:53] <cfhowlett> click on the clock, the calendar drops down
[13:53] <knome> i wonder if it's called orage in the panel applet list
[13:53] <Junka> but it's not drop down
[13:53] <knome> nope
[13:53] <Junka> cfhowlett: yes but there are no events
[13:53] <knome> you can move the orage window so that it feels like it is
[13:57] <Junka> it feels weird :/
[14:00] <Junka> ok i think it's good :D
[14:01] <Junka> is orage global time needed?
[14:06] <flux242> btw, 'zenity --calendar' shows calendar too
[14:35] <Junka> is to possible to get notified for new emails with the indicator thing while thunderbird is closed? I know there is a plugin for emails but I dont wanna a second "letter icon" on the panel.
[14:43] <flux242> Junka: http://flux242.blogspot.de/2012/06/using-of-xfce4-messenger-plugin.html
[14:44] <flux242> Junka: but messenger plugin isn't supported any longer
[14:45] <Junka> what is thunderbird stayed open on the background
[14:45] <Junka> like pidgin does?
[14:45] <Junka> but with no open window
[14:46] <knome> thunderbird doesn't do that, it's a feature in pidgin
[14:46] <Junka> i see
[14:46] <flux242> does pidgin still depend on gstreamer 0.1?
[14:47] <flux242> that's why i ditched it
[14:48] <Junka> yes it's a recommended dependency
[14:53] <Junka> it's a pity that gbrowsermusic does not support radio streaming (yet i hope)
[17:38] <Nixus> k
[18:01] <Junka> parole can't open radio streams :<
[18:04] <Nixus> having some weird issues. in xubuntu 14.04, if I press the power button, it does an instant shutdown, then powers on. However, in 14.10, it works as it should: when I press the power button, it opens the log out dialog
[18:16] <holstein> Junka: you can open the stream in vlc?
[18:18] <Junka> holstein: yes
[18:18] <Junka> rhythmbox too
[18:18] <holstein> Junka: sounds like a bug, then.. i would file, after i look and make sure rb and parole "advertise" to support the stream im trying to open
[18:18] <holstein> !bug
[18:19] <holstein> i would make sure that i dont have any ppas or 3rd party sources "in the way", and that the issue is with the stock ubuntu packages..
[18:19] <holstein> i would also make sure i am up to date with upates.. in case a fix has been applied..
[18:23] <Junka> holstein: that's the case since 12.04 (at least)
[18:24] <holstein> Junka: cool... 12.04 is nearly "eol" for the xubuntu specific setup, but, main ubuntu will support for 5 years..
[18:24] <holstein> Junka: if you find a bug to join, that can make it "easier" in many cases.. you can join it and offer help to solve..
[18:25] <holstein> could be, something in the stream codec is not able to be supported "out of the box"... due to licensing..
[18:29] <Junka> the compositor still tears videos playback
[18:30] <holstein> Junka: havfe you tried disabling it? or using a different one? or another GPU driver? are you using a proprietary GPU driver?
[18:31] <holstein> when im using those closed source drivers, which are sometimes "better" for my needs, with better performance, or heat, etc.. i will sometimes expect and just accept compromise
[18:31] <Junka> holstein: no free drivers
[18:31] <Junka> when i disable it, no tearing
[18:32] <holstein> still, see !bug ,and try the closed source drivers, if there are any for your hardware..
[18:33] <holstein> depends on what it is that is "tearing" as to how i address it.. if its flash, i just dont worry about it, and try and avoid flash, though, i'll use the latest flash player for the chrome browser to try and compromise
[18:33] <Junka> holstein: tearing while playback videos on parole
[18:33] <Junka> i dont use flash
[18:34] <holstein> Junka: so, now we know the player.. now, you can look into the GPU driver, *if* there is another one available, and the file type you are playing, and quality settings.. and containers..
[18:35] <holstein> Junka: i'll test "known-good" video/audio on something i know well that is well supported like VLC... this is the kind of testing that a hardware vendor would do when they release the hardware with "official" support for an operating system
[18:36] <holstein> in many cases, a team of experts were paid to make sure all that worked "out of the box", but, unfortunately, for another operating system that you were promised support for.. when one decides to run linux, it'll be a matter of weeding through a lot of these details on one's own
[19:36] <zulema> hey guy, i'm using 14.04, and i have everytime i reboot a warning that says invalid option: -session, does anybody knows hoy can i get rid of it? thaks
[20:16] <brainwash> zulema: a popup window?
[20:16] <zulema> yes
[20:18] <brainwash> go to Settings -> Session and Startup -> Session
[20:18] <brainwash> and clear the session cache
[20:19] <brainwash> make also sure that you don't save the session on logout
[20:28] <zulema> ok thanks!
[20:31] <zulema> problem solved, thanks!
[21:13] <xubuntu99w>  Hi. Have issue with ext disk drive when mounted by another user. Disk is mounted but user can't access files
[21:15] <xubuntu99w> Turning the user account to admin does not solve the issue
[21:17] <xubuntu99w> IIt seems the file manager is lost as the media has type 'unknown'
[21:18] <xubuntu99w> when it has proper type when disk is mounted from main account (and everything works well on main account)
[21:19] <brainwash> xubuntu99w: can you access the files if you navigate to /media/<other user>/<label> ?
[21:20] <xubuntu99w> No. Also from there, the user can't access the files
[21:22] <brainwash> you could adjust the permissions
[21:22] <xubuntu99w> When disk is mounted from main account, it has proper permissions
[21:23] <xubuntu99w> But when mouned from user account, the owner is root instead of being the account owner
[21:24] <brainwash> that's odd
[21:24] <holstein> !chown
[21:24] <holstein> i would try just setting the user permissions, and see if that addresses it
[21:27] <xubuntu99w> ok, i 'll have a try. I am not logged to my xubuntu laptop at now. Be patient...
[21:27] <holstein> brainwash: one would expect read permissions, though.. correct?
[21:29] <brainwash> holstein: I guess so
[21:31] <xubuntu99w> IIndeed, all folders /media/<username> are owned by root with read permission for others
[21:32] <holstein> if root made them, then they will be root
[21:32] <holstein> if you created them when you were sudo, etc..
[21:32] <holstein> or, thats what i would expect.. i would just look at what the permissions are, and if i want another user to write, i would chown
[21:33] <xubuntu99w> but normally the ext disk when mouned on /media/<username>/<diskname> is owned by the user who mounted it
[21:33] <brainwash> /media/<user> is 750 here
[21:33] <xubuntu99w> this is true when mounting from the main account, but not anymore when doing the same from another account
[21:34] <holstein> xubuntu99w: there really is no "main" account, though.. just different users with different levels of permissions
[21:35] <xubuntu99w> Right, by main account, I mean my account with admin permissions
[21:35] <xubuntu99w> Other accounts are for my children
[21:35] <holstein> xubuntu99w: sure.. the "admin", or sudo, or root, can do more
[21:36] <holstein> xubuntu99w: if you want a "child"'s user to have write access, you can give it to them.. but, the admin will need to do that
[21:36] <holstein> you have the users locked down, basically..
[21:36] <xubuntu99w> I I checked permissons on / media/<username>
[21:36] <xubuntu99w> root is owner, no permissions for other user
[21:36] <holstein> sure, so chown them to the user, or give the user permission for the ext disk..
[21:38] <holstein> xubuntu99w: http://askubuntu.com/questions/405993/usb-drive-auto-mounted-by-user-but-gets-write-permissions-for-root-only for example
[21:38] <brainwash> I would try http://askubuntu.com/a/276670
[21:39] <xubuntu99w> well, not sure this is required, because that does not prevent to access the disk correctly when mounted from the sudo account
[21:39] <holstein> xubuntu99w: i dont understand your question, but, "Root" or sudo will be able to access it still
[21:39] <xubuntu99w> even though /media/<username> is owned by root with no permissions for others
[21:40] <holstein> you likely sudo created that directory, to mount the stick in..
[21:40] <xubuntu99w> still the folder underneath corresponding the ext disk name has proper permissions
[21:40] <holstein> "proper" will just be a matter of what you need
[21:41] <brainwash> look at my link, it explains how to remove the additional <username> layer
[21:43] <xubuntu99w> IIn fact, I switched from Ubuntu to Xubuntu at some point in time
[21:44] <xubuntu99w> And I do not remember having had this issue on Ubuntu
[21:44] <holstein> sure.. xubuntu *is* ubuntu, so, the underlying permissions we are discussing are the same
[21:44] <holstein> xubuntu99w: nah. it'll be the same
[21:44] <xubuntu99w> My children would have told me for sure
[21:44] <holstein> its not an "issue" really.. its just the way its designed
[21:45] <xubuntu99w> Yes, but when connecting an external disk, this is supposed to work...
[21:46] <holstein> xubuntu99w: if you want to set the system up like that, it will
[21:46] <brainwash> it's just udisks2, a new version which tries to do everything better... but creates new limitations and annoyances
[21:46] <holstein> its not a xubuntu vs ubuntu.. its a newer linux system change..
[21:48] <xubuntu99w> Anyway, will try to change permissions or remove the "additional <username> layer" as mentionned above
[21:48] <holstein> sounds like a plan.. cheers
[21:51] <xubuntu99w> Thanks, will let you know the outcome if I can solve it a few minutes....
[21:58] <xubuntu99w> Great ! Just changes the owner and group  of all /media/<username> folders, and it works fine now !
[21:58] <xubuntu99w> Thanks a lot for your help !!!
[23:16] <Nixus> have a weird issue in Xubuntu 14.04. when I press the power button, it does an instant shutdown, then reboots. my button is set to "ask" in power manager. Any help is appreciated. Thank you!
[23:28] <brainwash> Nixus2: this here appears to be related to your problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2258213