[21:47] <lazyPower> whit: There's actually an open thread on the mailing list about that - that relates to fetching the beta toolkits
[21:47] <whit> lazyPower, wrt to bt?
[21:47] <lazyPower> i asked about --upload-tools and found dragons to live in there, its intended to be useful for developers working on core.
[21:47] <lazyPower> yeah, it would transpose seamlessly into bt
[21:47] <lazyPower> since bt just wraps juju
[21:48] <whit> lazyPower, yeah, I took a look
[21:48] <lazyPower> i realize i'm 2 days late to the party when that convo took place, just thought i'd throw in my 10 cents :)
[21:48]  * whit usually bootstrap before running bt locally so wasn't worth it at the time
[21:48] <whit> it was just annoying
[21:49] <lazyPower> yeah
[21:49]  * whit shrugs
[21:49] <lazyPower> if you're giving demos, probably be worth your while to stop-gap in the current -stable release
[21:49] <lazyPower> then re-up when you're done giving the demo
[21:49]  * whit shrugs
[21:49] <lazyPower> thats my plan for FOSDEM anyway
[21:49] <whit> I've been working off dev for weeks now
[21:49] <whit> it's pretty stable and the status out is better
[21:49] <lazyPower> same here, since it landed as -alpha1
[21:50] <lazyPower> I'm crossing fingers it lands before I go so i dont have to dance the jig
[21:50] <whit> haha
[21:50] <whit> stick it in a container
[21:50] <lazyPower> i would, but i plan on leveraging the local provider during the dev sessions
[21:51] <lazyPower> container in container nesting requires some apparmor heniousness
[21:52] <whit> yeah not worth it
[21:52] <whit> though that's something we should explore with wwitzel3 in CO
[21:52] <lazyPower> well its completely possible in LXC already
[21:52] <lazyPower> you just have to add 3 lines to your apparmor config for LXC to make it happen, then do the magic with routes to reach into the containers in the container
[21:52] <whit> lazyPower, it just requires divine intervention
[21:53] <whit> ?
[21:53]  * whit nods
[21:53] <lazyPower> well considering it hasn't been fully tested, i dont think i'd recommend it to anyone at this juncture
[21:53] <lazyPower> unless they want to be the ones that find the broken corner cases
[22:12] <lazyPower> whit: i found a project i want to start using for my screencasts - https://github.com/seenaburns/dex-ui
[22:12] <lazyPower> cyberpunk, the UI
[22:13] <whit> lazyPower, is that windowmanager?
[22:13] <lazyPower> its an openframeworks project, that would run in leu of any DE
[22:14] <lazyPower> the only functional part of it is the terminal, the rest is for sci-fi hollywood type interface
[22:14] <whit> aha
[22:14] <whit> gotcha
[22:15] <lazyPower> it was a featurette on todays LAS - and i have to admit, it looks pretty gnarly
[22:15]  * whit needs to take a walk