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| c74d3 | Is Mir typically used with X and an X shim? Can it be used without those? | 17:18 |
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| c74d3 | (I know pretty much nothing about Mir, other than that it's an alternative to X and Wayland, and is apparently the only one of the three to offer release signatures or secure downloads.) | 17:19 |
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| anpok | c74d3: there is Xmir | 17:36 |
| c74d3 | Is Xmir required? I'd like to avoid X entirely. | 17:39 |
| anpok | Xmir is only needed to run X applications inside | 17:40 |
| anpok | gtk and qt have mir ports | 17:40 |
| anpok | so not for those | 17:40 |
| anpok | and sdl and glfw .. and many other libraires | 17:40 |
| anpok | as shell there is currently only unity8 in a useable state for tablet and phone form factors | 17:41 |
| c74d3 | Oh, I didn't realize that those libraries could work directly with Mir. That sounds better than I expected. | 17:41 |
| anpok | a pc desktop with unity8 is currently being worked on | 17:41 |
| anpok | since mir is meant to provide window management bits, writing shells will be simple | 17:42 |
| anpok | it is not feature complete for what a desktop needs | 17:42 |
| anpok | but we are just adressing that, and with that we also add default implementations to the mir server library .. so writing your own shell will only require a few lines of code | 17:43 |
| anpok | http://youtu.be/MXHulRlq10s thats already old | 17:44 |
| c74d3 | Thanks. What is a "shell" in this context? Is it like a window manager? | 18:10 |
| anpok | window manager and more | 18:15 |
| anpok | or depends on how those terms are defined .. | 18:15 |
| c74d3 | I have used Unity (before Mir existed), but I know little about it and wouldn't know what was Unity and what was GTK/X/etc. | 18:17 |
| c74d3 | I use X with i3 currently, so i3 is what I think of as a "window manager". | 18:18 |
| anpok | ah tiling .. | 18:18 |
| anpok | alan_g recently started a tiling window manager on mir | 18:19 |
| c74d3 | I would recognize floating window managers too, though I don't use i3's floating mode. | 18:19 |
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