[05:11] <Kilos> good morning everyone
[05:34] <Kilos> sigh
[05:35] <Kilos> hi theblazehen  why so quiet lately?
[06:07] <Kilos> wb captine  
[06:27] <Kilos> hi Tonberry_  
[06:28] <Tonberry_> hi
[08:33] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn  
[08:34] <nlsthzn> uncle Kilos ... alo
[08:37] <nlsthzn> wiki's updated... :)
[08:44] <Kilos> oooh lemme see
[08:46]  * Kilos bows
[08:46] <Kilos> ty nlsthzn  lovely
[08:47] <Kilos> nice to know peeps see me as more than a pest who always needs help
[08:51] <Squirm> Morning
[08:53] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[08:53] <nlsthzn> pleasure uncle Kilos ... easy to write stuff when it is true
[08:54] <Kilos> ai!
[09:14] <Kilos> how can caltex tweet on our ubuntuza page if only the pro and i have the password grrr
[09:14] <Kilos> and i had to change the password again because i couldnt get in
[09:18] <nlsthzn> there are adverts injected into Twitter...
[09:18] <nlsthzn> a way that they can make money >.<
[09:37] <gremble> Good morning
[09:46] <Kilos> hi gremble  
[09:46] <Kilos> hows ya this fine morning
[09:47] <gremble> I am well thank you and yourself?
[09:47] <Kilos> good also ty
[10:05] <Kilos> gremble do you different groups in varsity mix ?
[10:06] <Kilos> as in with the IT peeps and so on, or only if they are pretty females
[10:15] <gremble> I have some friends that do math, some that do BA and BSc. I work with the newspapaer. I don't have that many black or indian friends though :o
[10:16] <Kilos> i just want python peeps
[10:16] <gremble> Oh, I don't know anyone that programs python
[10:16] <Kilos> you forget we got a sick ibid
[10:26] <Kilos> i wonder if i should approach the peeps on the python channel
[10:27] <Kilos> Symmetria  ping
[11:13] <Kilos> bang i ask him to do some work
[11:57] <Squirm> Kilos: why not learn yourself?
[11:58] <Kilos> you should know bu now squirm learning stuff is hectic for mew
[11:58] <Kilos> me too
[11:58] <Squirm> You have time?
[11:58] <Squirm> Should give it a bash :)
[11:58] <Kilos> yes i have time but not ability to learn that kinda stuff
[11:59] <Kilos> i tried byteofpython and vim
[11:59] <Kilos> twice i think
[11:59] <Kilos> tried learning html just the other day as well
[11:59] <gremble> I don't think you need vim
[11:59] <Squirm> http://files.swaroopch.com/python/byte_of_python.pdf
[11:59] <gremble> You could do pycharm instead
[11:59] <Squirm> Kilos: don't use vim
[11:59] <Squirm> gremble: gedit works well
[11:59] <Kilos> byte of python tells you use vim
[12:00] <gremble> Ya don't use vim
[12:00] <Squirm> Kilos: don'u use vim :P
[12:00] <Kilos> oh
[12:00] <gremble> ya, I thought of gedit just after I sent the message
[12:00] <Squirm> Anything with syntax highlighting 
[12:00] <Kilos> i only have kate and nao no gedit
[12:00] <Kilos> nano
[12:00] <gremble> kate is also fine
[12:00] <Squirm> probably good enough
[12:01] <Squirm> nano and vim are cli editors, you don't need those
[12:01] <Kilos> ya man but i cant remember 
[12:01] <Squirm> the only thing on the command line you really need to do is just run your application, `python myapp.py`
[12:01] <Kilos> im sure byte of python said use vim in the course though
[12:02] <Squirm> Kilos: maybe
[12:02] <gremble> They just being funny
[12:02] <Squirm> probably
[12:02] <Kilos> lol 
[12:02] <gremble> I promise that it won't make a difference in the end
[12:02] <Kilos> but anyway to mod ibid needs a python pro
[12:02] <Squirm> I don't use vim for programming if I have access to GUI apps
[12:02] <Squirm> Kilos: maybe
[12:02] <Squirm> but you'll get ther :)
[12:02] <gremble> Haha I do :x
[12:03] <Squirm> s/ther/there
[12:03] <Kilos> tumbles said it a major task
[12:03] <Squirm> gremble: haha.
[12:03] <gremble> I write everything in vim haha
[12:03]  * gremble goes to sit in the corner.
[12:03] <Squirm> I'm being pushed to learn emacs
[12:03] <Squirm> gremble: to each their own
[12:03] <gremble> Emacs is very nice
[12:03] <gremble> But I cbf to learn another editor
[12:03] <gremble> haha
[12:03] <gremble> I am not going to become programmer one day
[12:03] <Squirm> it is, took me long enough to learn vim
[12:04] <Squirm> yeah
[12:04] <Kilos> and too much work atm Squirm  
[12:04] <Squirm> I use TextMate for my main programming on my Mac
[12:04] <Squirm> Kilos: It's just for fun
[12:04] <gremble> I heard that textmate and xcode is very nice
[12:04] <Kilos> eish 
[12:04] <Squirm> Imagine being able to say that you know how to program?
[12:05] <Squirm> TextMate is very nice
[12:05] <Kilos> i would love to be able to
[12:05] <Squirm> Kilos: that's all you need ^^
[12:05] <Kilos> i spent 2 weeks learning html and all i remember is <html>
[12:05] <gremble> Haha Squirm I try really hard to avoid saying that :P
[12:06] <gremble> Kilos: Remembering is a tiny bit of what it means to program
[12:06] <Squirm> gremble: How so?
[12:06] <gremble> All of those things you can find in books
[12:06] <gremble> Squirm: because then people ask me to program things
[12:06] <Squirm> oh right :P
[12:06] <Kilos> ya man but if you dont remember you learn nothing
[12:06] <Squirm> Kilos: I have to google things constantly
[12:06] <Squirm> Kilos: It's a way of thinking
[12:07] <Squirm> Problem solving
[12:07] <gremble> I have books in which I write down important pieces of code so that I don't have to remember them
[12:07] <Kilos> i do as well i even googled stuff about moving python 2.7 to 3
[12:07] <gremble> ^ that is the problem with ibid
[12:07] <Squirm> I don't know python 3
[12:07] <gremble> The libraries it was written with are mostly deprecated
[12:07] <Kilos> all i noticed was some words left out of lines
[12:09] <Kilos> but if tumbles says its major id be farting against thunder 
[12:19] <Kilos> afternoon superfly  
[12:22] <Kilos> but ive learned to edit wiki pages so there is an improvement
[12:26] <Kilos> and i have to learn about strating locos so i can help new countries around us get going
[12:26] <Kilos> starting
[12:29] <charl> good afternoon
[12:29] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[12:29]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[12:29] <Kilos> hi charl  
[12:29] <Kilos> brush up your python
[12:30] <Kilos> we need ibid upgraded from 2.7 to 3
[12:30] <charl> hi Kilos 
[12:30] <charl> how are you this fine sunday
[12:30] <Kilos> im ok ty and you?
[12:31] <Kilos> charl  brush up your python man
[12:33] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[12:33] <charl> i'm good thanks
[12:33] <charl> i know a lot of python Kilos i used to develop big systems in it
[12:34] <Kilos> great
[12:34] <Kilos> gremble  you got the link for ibid source please
[12:35] <Kilos> charl it needs to be made acceptable to python 3 to work on 14.04 and later
[12:35] <charl> Kilos: why? i'm running 14.10 here with python 2.7.8
[12:36] <Kilos> try installing ibid
[12:36] <gremble> It is the libraries that go with ibid that are dead and deprecated
[12:36] <charl> ibid is the software behind Maaz right ?
[12:36] <Kilos> yip maaz
[12:37] <Kilos> its in the repos
[12:37] <charl> gremble: i take it the ibid software is not well maintained then
[12:37] <charl> how many developers are actively maintaining it right now ?
[12:37] <Kilos> none
[12:37] <gremble> It is not maintained at all charl 
[12:37] <gremble> That is the problem
[12:37] <Kilos> tumbles is too busy he was the main maintainer
[12:37] <charl> well then the software is simply EOL unless somebody else wants to pick it up
[12:37] <charl> there are many good python bots out there right now that are much better i'm sure
[12:38] <charl> i personally use willie on some other irc channels
[12:38] <charl> it's very good, i can vouch for it
[12:38] <Kilos> thats why i asked you man
[12:38] <charl> and it's also actively maintained
[12:38] <gremble> I tried to, but then got mashed by the problem
[12:38] <charl> i could pick it up but i don't see any real reason to
[12:38] <charl> my suggestion would be to migrate
[12:38] <Kilos> we cant change our bot for another
[12:38] <charl> we can add things like coffee etc very easily to another bot
[12:38] <charl> Kilos: why ?
[12:38] <Kilos> no man ibid is a must
[12:39] <charl> why
[12:39] <Kilos> um
[12:39] <charl> :)
[12:39] <Kilos> because
[12:39] <Kilos> hehe
[12:39] <charl> :D
[12:39] <Kilos> we love ibid
[12:39] <charl> ok i'll make you a deal
[12:39] <Kilos> writen by our peeps
[12:39] <Kilos> lets hear
[12:39] <charl> i will jump in and help out, but first we move to a well maintained core, in other words, not ibid
[12:39] <charl> something like willie or similar
[12:39] <charl> we can investigate the options
[12:40] <charl> then we migrate the missing functionality to willie
[12:40] <charl> otherwise, i can pick up ibid, but then over 6 months i lost interest and then it's just unmaintained once again
[12:40] <charl> for example
[12:40] <Kilos> you gotta fight too many peeps to do that
[12:40] <gremble> That is a good plan that I could get behind
[12:40] <Kilos> i will nag you daily
[12:40] <gremble> But it has to be python 3. It is been like 7 years now, we don't have to trudge in the past anymore
[12:41] <charl> i'm not sure what the other ones run on but we can investigate that of course
[12:41] <gremble> Haha I don't even have python 2.7 on my system anymore
[12:41] <charl> but i go by the principle that we need to stick to something that is used wider
[12:41] <gremble> Yes
[12:41] <charl> because there are too many one-man projects out there
[12:41] <charl> and like i said, right now i might have time, what about 6 months from now
[12:41] <charl> and i also get busy with other things or whatever who knows
[12:41] <Kilos> ibid has a channel on atrum
[12:42] <Kilos> just make ibid python 3 friendly man
[12:42] <charl> there will be more that will break over time Kilos 
[12:42] <Kilos> i have got energy to learn and teach a new boit
[12:42] <Kilos> bot
[12:42] <charl> an unmaintained piece of code is not something you want to keep runnin
[12:43] <Kilos> well
[12:43] <Squirm> Willie sounds quite cool actually
[12:43] <charl> simply see ibid the same way as ubuntu 10.04 - almost EOL :)
[12:43] <charl> it is Squirm i use it on other networks
[12:43] <Kilos> maybe once the major hurdle is over the old maintaner will have time to keep things gooing
[12:43] <gremble> Kilos: Imagine your tracter's engine block has rusted. You could probably get it to go, but it will always break somewhere
[12:43] <gremble> It is better just to get a new engine
[12:44] <Kilos> ai!
[12:44] <gremble> If we get Maaz a new engine, you won't even realise it is not an ibid anymore
[12:45] <Kilos> ok lets hear what the fly and pro have to say about it
[12:45] <Kilos> its not just coffee charl , maaz was written to do meetings minutes and all that stuff
[12:46] <Squirm> Kilos: It's module could probably be adapted
[12:46] <Kilos> you just dont want to learn python 3
[12:47] <Kilos> i have no idea how these things work Squirm  
[12:47] <gremble> Learning python 3 is not equivalent to porting old software to python 3
[12:47] <Kilos> if we dont upgrade ibid well just have to keep him going on an old server
[12:48] <gremble> It would have to be mostly rewritten
[12:48] <Kilos> ai!
[12:49] <Squirm> yeah
[12:50] <charl> when i contribute to open source projects i always try to plug into a broader community
[12:50] <charl> firstly that means more people get the benefit out of your contributions
[12:50] <charl> and secondly it's much more fun to work together on a project than on your own
[12:50] <Kilos> Squirm  QA is even missing off your server thing
[12:50] <charl> and of course thirdly there is less change that the softwre will become unmaintained over time
[12:51] <Kilos> well lets hear what pro and fly say
[12:54] <Kilos> maybe some python peeps will write something that will do the job for us
[12:54] <Squirm> Kilos: python peeps wrote willie
[12:55] <Squirm> https://github.com/embolalia/willie/wiki
[12:55] <Squirm> http://willie.dftba.net/
[13:00] <Kilos> sjoe
[13:01] <gremble> Do any of you know of a PDF reading application that allows you to make annotations and such on the document 
[13:01] <gremble> Highlighting and note making and so forth
[13:05] <Squirm> gremble: adobe does that
[13:06] <Squirm> not sure on linux though
[13:07] <gremble> Okular is the only one that does that on linux
[13:07] <gremble> I'm installing it now
[13:08] <gremble> A lot of KDE dependencies....
[14:55] <Kilos> sjoe hot here now, no wind, hopefully building up somewhere for a good blow
[15:02] <superfly> Okular is pretty slick 
[15:02] <superfly> Kilos: I have internet again 
[15:03] <Kilos> oh yay thats wonderful superfly  
[15:03] <Kilos> happy for you
[15:04] <Kilos> charl  gremble  maybe we must put the willie ibid discussion in the agenda for tuesdays meeting
[15:05] <Kilos> i just did a quick look at the willie site. would be better if they had a .deb
[15:05] <charl> Kilos: this coming tuesday ?
[15:06] <Kilos> yip 27th
[15:06] <Kilos> dont you get reminders from g+ and lists
[15:07] <Kilos> i think it will be a major job too to make willie same as maaz
[15:07] <Kilos> lots of things it needs to be able to do
[15:08] <Kilos> and it means i gotta start teaching from scratch
[15:08] <Kilos> after years of training maaz
[15:08] <Kilos> Maaz  huh
[15:08] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[15:08] <Kilos> Maaz  shup
[15:08] <Maaz> Shup yourself oh noisy one
[15:14] <Kilos> hi Private_User  
[15:16] <Kilos> we gotta pip install it
[15:18] <nuvolari> ugh.  anyone with huawei wireless router experience around?
[15:18] <nuvolari> the type that can take a SIM card
[15:19] <Kilos> ai!
[15:19] <nuvolari> I had hoped to use an external antenna (outdoor) to improve the signal
[15:19] <nuvolari> it's using an SMA connector
[15:19] <nuvolari> but it doesn't sem to improver reception quality
[15:19] <charl> Kilos: i don't use google+ and i don't belong to any mailing lists
[15:19] <nuvolari> *seem
[15:19] <Kilos> you can buy them at radio shops nuvolari  
[15:20] <Kilos> then you put that in place of the connector on the external antenna
[15:21] <Kilos> ok charl ill give another warning here tomorrow
[15:21] <nuvolari> Kilos: charl is basically living in the dark ages of social :P
[15:21] <nuvolari> oom kilos, I have an antenna
[15:21] <charl> i got it in the mind now, no problem Kilos :D
[15:21] <Kilos> Maaz  announce Monthly meet tuesday night at 20.30 guys
[15:21] <Maaz> Announcement from Kilos! Monthly meet tuesday night at 20.30 guys
[15:21] <charl> nuvolari: just because i don't use g+ or mailing lists ?
[15:22] <charl> :P
[15:22] <Kilos> nuvolari  has the antenna got the same connector as the router?
[15:22] <nuvolari> Kilos: yes
[15:22] <nuvolari> it's screwed in
[15:22] <Kilos> so whats the prob then?
[15:22] <nuvolari> when I change the type from internal to external, it switches back to internal in the router software UI
[15:23] <Kilos> you might need to set the router to use 3g not adsl
[15:23] <nuvolari> there is no ADSL involved
[15:23] <Kilos> oh it can only do 3g
[15:23] <Kilos> wow
[15:23] <superfly> nlsthzn: thanks for the testimonial :-)
[15:24] <superfly> Kilos: I have a DebConf meeting on Tuesday night as well. I'll be here for the first half of the meeting, and then I'll need to skidaddle
[15:24] <nuvolari> I'm not sure if it's an emission antenna, rather than a receiver (which is what I hoped it is)
[15:25] <Kilos> ok superfly  lets sort before hand what we discuss first then
[15:25] <Kilos> nuvolari  google the user manual or ud=ser guide for it
[15:25] <Kilos> user
[15:26] <Kilos> wow i dont know what happened there
[15:31] <nlsthzn> superfly, my pleasure... all the best with the application!!
[15:32]  * superfly is about to take the plunge and put his name down for the 5th
[15:32] <Kilos> can you put mine too superfly  ? or is it an individual thing
[15:32] <superfly> Kilos: I can do
[15:32] <Kilos> please do
[15:32] <Kilos> ty
[15:33] <Kilos> i wish pro was ready
[15:33] <Kilos> inetpro  make your page man
[15:36] <superfly> Kilos: gaan jy wakker wees om middernag? 22:00 UTC is midnight over here
[15:37] <Kilos> ya superfly  ek sal hier wees
[15:37] <Kilos> cant miss that
[15:37] <Kilos> i have to ping david and maia as well, they will try make the meet
[15:38] <Kilos> hehe dunno where to ping them bu ya
[15:38] <Kilos> but
[15:40] <Kilos> 5th of february hey superfly  ?
[15:40] <superfly> ja
[15:40] <Kilos> oh my thats sommer now now
[15:41] <gremble> Next weekend I believe
[15:41] <nuvolari> \o/
[15:41] <Kilos> sjoe
[15:41] <nuvolari> iz working
[15:41]  * Kilos starts shaking
[15:41] <gremble> It's my birthday on the 26th of Feb. You guys better have a cake for me n stuff
[15:41] <nuvolari> are you ok oom Kilos?
[15:41] <Kilos> working at midnight?
[15:41] <nuvolari> I'm BDaying tomorrow :D
[15:41] <Kilos> ya ek bang die ding man'
[15:42] <charl> congrats nuvolari in advance
[15:42] <Kilos> it means more responsibility
[15:43] <charl> and gremble 
[15:43] <charl> oh wait, that's in feb
[15:43] <charl> sorry
[15:43] <Kilos> whats BDaying
[15:43] <Kilos> oh birthdaying
[15:44] <Kilos> nuvolari  when is bday?
[15:48] <gremble> Kilos: He said tomorrow
[15:48] <nuvolari> môre oom Kilos 
[15:48] <nuvolari> :D
[15:48] <nuvolari> stokoud
[15:48]  * nuvolari het 'n kierie bestel
[15:48] <gremble> What, turning 24, 25? :P
[15:48] <nuvolari> by that standard I should be mummified
[15:48] <nuvolari> turing 28
[15:48] <Kilos> hahaha
[15:48] <gremble> Hahaha
[15:49] <Kilos> ballyville here we come
[15:49] <Kilos> then im what?
[15:51] <Kilos> nuvolari  jou lewe begin nou eers man
[15:51] <Kilos> wb nlsthzn  
[15:52] <Kilos> :D
[15:53] <gremble> My family expects me to be happilly married with kids by then... I'm not even sure that I'll be done with studying then
[15:53] <gremble> haha
[15:55] <Kilos> hehe
[15:56] <Kilos> i got married at 25
[16:02] <superfly> I got married at 27
[16:05] <Kilos> ya one must grow up with your kids i think
[16:06] <Private_User> hi Kilos
[16:06] <Kilos> and then you have a chance to see grandchildren
[16:06] <Kilos> whats news Private_User  
[16:07] <Private_User> nothing much hey but how am I logging on now? Am I cloaked immediately or is it doing the same as Friday?
[16:07] <Kilos> fine
[16:07] <Kilos> cloaked 
[16:08] <Private_User> cool but I still think the connecting here where I am sitting now is not 100%
[16:09] <Private_User> but I will check cause yesterday was extremely windy and so was Friday
[16:09] <Kilos> are you far from where you normally were
[16:09] <Kilos> like in the chicken house now
[16:09] <Kilos> hehe
[16:09] <Private_User> so now not so much so lets see although yesterday it was windy and connection was unstable here but when I went back to my usual spot in the house it was fine
[16:10] <Private_User> lol
[16:10] <Kilos> might be more trees between you and the tower where you are now
[16:10] <Private_User> not far just a few steps and I can be backi in the house
[16:10] <Private_User> lol
[16:10] <Kilos> wow you okes keep chickens so close
[16:10] <Private_User> or it could be that the main building is blocking
[16:11] <Kilos> oh yes that could be
[16:11] <Kilos> and 3g doesnt like buildings in the way
[16:11] <Private_User> if it continues tomorrow then I will have to just go back and work inside the house
[16:11] <Kilos> or even thick walls
[16:12] <Kilos> just get a long extension usb cable
[16:12] <Kilos> put your modem on the roof in a canned fruit bottle
[16:13] <Kilos> maybe a bottle will get a bit hot in the sun
[16:13] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:13] <Kilos> oh there is a way
[16:14] <Kilos> you get plastic pipe tpiece
[16:14] <Private_User> yeah I was thinking that but no extension cable for usb
[16:14] <Private_User> another way Kilos?
[16:14] <Kilos> that will stop rain and allow air through to keep modem cool
[16:15] <Kilos> ian bought a nice 5m extension the other day with built in booster
[16:15] <Kilos> works kiff
[16:16] <Kilos> but i think it was R99
[16:17] <Private_User> hmm... ok R99 not too bad with a signal booster you say?
[16:18] <Kilos> yeah
[16:18] <Kilos> added 1 bar to my signal here
[16:18] <Kilos> then he took it sigh
[16:19] <Private_User> lol
[16:19] <Kilos> but mine must be close to full 5 bars, just hops between 4 and 5
[16:19] <Private_User> ok where did he buy it from?
[16:20] <Private_User> cause I would prefer working from here since its quite
[16:20] <Kilos> whew at a pc shop we took a chance and just walked into in town in pta, ill ask if he has the name
[16:20] <Kilos> quiet
[16:20] <Private_User> lol
[16:20] <Private_User> yes and that as well
[16:21] <Private_User> quiet
[16:22] <Private_User> ok then I will just look around maybe I will something
[16:22] <Private_User> *find something
[16:22] <Private_User> for now lets see how it goes connection wise
[16:22] <charl> have a good evening all
[16:22] <Kilos> but if you just use a 5m extension it will reach top of roof anyway so signal should be good
[16:22] <Kilos> hi char
[16:23] <Kilos> oh bye
[16:29] <Private_User> you know I am not understanding my signal says full signal and skype is connected, IRC is connected and even googletalk accounts but when I try a webpage its either extremely slow or web page cannot be display then when I ping request timed out and sometimes could not resolve host
[16:29] <Kilos> every time you browse?
[16:30] <Private_User> you think this 3G is still trying to find a path to the towers
[16:30] <Private_User> lol
[16:30] <Kilos> lol
[16:30] <Private_User> most of the time in this spot
[16:30] <Kilos> maybe you doing too much
[16:30] <Private_User> at home when I moved the laptop back there everything worked 100% then when I brought it back then not so lekker again
[16:31] <Kilos> must be signal
[16:31] <Kilos> ian says that shops name is matrix
[16:32] <Private_User> ah ok
[16:32] <Private_User> thanks Kilos
[16:32] <Kilos> yw
[16:45] <Kilos> Private_User  the booster is just a blob of some hidden stuff on the cable
[16:46] <Kilos> i have no idea what they hide in there
[17:16] <Kilos> hi captine  
[17:18] <Kilos> haha the 5th feb is thursday week after next
[17:18] <Kilos> i still have time to get an ulcer
[17:34] <superfly> Private_User: if you knew how GSM and 3G work, you'd be thankful you even get a connection
[17:34] <superfly> Kilos: are you ready?
[17:34] <Kilos> for what superfly  ?
[17:35] <superfly> Membership
[17:35] <Kilos> havent you looked at my page?
[17:35] <Kilos> i am bust making notes i can copy/paste to them but dont know what to say
[17:36] <Kilos> i dont have a bugle to blow
[17:36] <Kilos> the pro gave me a link to where other peeps joined but i cant find it
[17:39] <Kilos> i wont have time to tell them my story so not sure what to put
[17:40] <superfly> Kilos: they will read your page in preparation for the your session. When it's your turn, they'll probably ask you a question or two, and then make a decision.
[17:41] <Kilos> oh ok so what do we need to do now
[17:41] <Kilos> eish
[17:43] <Kilos> this whole thing is stressful
[17:43] <superfly> Don't stress, the worst they can say is "no"
[17:46] <Kilos> hi thoquz  
[17:46] <thoquz_> Hi Kilos
[17:46] <Kilos> have you been here before?
[17:46] <thoquz_> Yes
[17:47] <thoquz_> A week or so ago
[17:47] <Kilos> yay but welcome back then
[17:47] <Kilos> my ram forgot
[17:48] <Kilos> so thoquz_  all good there?
[17:48] <thoquz_> Yeah, looks like I might be studying this year, I got accepted for Electronic Engineering at a university.
[17:48] <Kilos> cool
[17:49] <Kilos> which varsity?
[17:50] <thoquz_> Stellenbosch
[17:50] <Kilos> nice
[17:50] <thoquz_> Anyone here done the, or is doing the program there currently?
[17:51] <Kilos> not that i can think of here
[17:52] <Kilos> have you joined our mailing list, you can ask there, the lists have many more followers than irc
[17:52] <thoquz_> Looks like I'm going to be forced to use Microsoft Windows there. Luckily they give it to us for free.
[17:52] <Kilos> lol
[17:52] <Kilos> shame
[17:53] <Kilos> we are having our monthly meeting here on tuesday night, you are welcome to join us
[17:53] <Kilos> 20.30
[17:54] <thoquz_> Sure, I'll try to make it. Last time I did not make it because I was not home, maybe I should put a IRC client on my phone
[17:55] <Kilos> yeah some of the guys do that
[17:57] <Kilos> you got an android?
[18:01] <Kilos> storming here so if i disappear the power went
[18:04] <inetpro> eish!
[18:04] <inetpro> good evening
[18:04]  * inetpro joining at a bad time
[18:05] <thoquz_> Yes, have a android phone
[18:05] <inetpro> big lightning and thunder here
[18:05] <Kilos> here too inetpro  
[18:05] <Kilos> thoquz_  you can use quasseldroid
[18:06] <inetpro> nlsthzn, superfly: yikes guys! Thanks for the kind words!
[18:06]  * inetpro not sure he lives up to all that
[18:06] <Kilos> cant leave now waiting for fly he wants to apply tonight
[18:06] <Kilos> oh yes inetpro  and more
[18:06] <inetpro> apply tonight? No man
[18:07] <Kilos> talk to fly when he gets back from kidville
[18:07] <inetpro> Kilos: he just added your names on the Agenda
[18:07] <Kilos> oh
[18:08] <inetpro> see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards
[18:08] <Kilos> isnt that the same thing
[18:08] <inetpro> no, this just so the board can look at your details so long
[18:08] <Kilos> oh my
[18:08] <inetpro> now they have time to dig into your history et all
[18:09] <inetpro> :-)
[18:09] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:09] <Kilos> i needed that laugh
[18:09] <Kilos> starting to stress
[18:09] <inetpro> why?
[18:09] <Kilos> dont know
[18:09] <Kilos> must be old age
[18:10] <inetpro> no need for that, you just be yourself and you be perfect
[18:10] <Kilos> thats no good man you always ai! me
[18:10] <Kilos> they wont understand
[18:10] <inetpro> they can read
[18:11] <Kilos> so can you but you still ai!
[18:11] <Kilos> lol and the fly tells me im living up to my mail addy
[18:11] <Kilos> hehe
[18:12] <Kilos> im bang they ask something and all i can do is um er duh
[18:14] <Kilos> feels like going to the priciples office in the old days
[18:14] <Kilos> hehe
[18:19] <inetpro> Kilos: how's the little lamb doing?
[18:19] <Kilos> lol very well ty, just starting to eat grass on its own now
[18:20] <Kilos> but still maaaas when it sees me and wobbles to me for mulberry leaves
[18:20] <Kilos> weighs 17kg
[18:23] <inetpro> sjoe
[18:23] <Kilos> its like it has vertigo
[18:23] <Kilos> kinda dronk most of the time
[18:24] <inetpro> poor little lamb
[18:24] <Kilos> yeah
[18:24] <Kilos> hi Tonberry_  
[18:26] <Kilos> oh inetpro  theres lots of logs to read but i think of importance is ibid. charl and gremble gave the suggestion that we go to a willie bot
[18:26] <Kilos> also python 
[18:27] <Kilos> ibid needs to be rewritten to make it python3 compatible and then still no maintainer
[18:27] <Kilos> s
[18:30] <Kilos> that decision is in your and flys hands and we can discuss it at the meet in two days time
[18:30] <inetpro> hmm... 
[18:31] <Kilos> https://github.com/embolalia/willie/wiki/Willie-tutorial,-Part-1
[18:32]  * inetpro not sure the time has come to make a decision on the issue
[18:33] <inetpro> maybe later in the year
[18:33] <Kilos> ya theres no rush i think, i love maaz
[18:38] <Kilos> but we can discuss it and let charl start making a willie thats as clever as maaz and has all hgis functions, that will take a while i think
[19:09] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[19:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> lo
[19:22] <Squirm> Hey ThatGraemeGuy
[20:16] <Kilos> nlsthzn  you still here lad
[20:16] <Kilos> dont you need some sleep?
[20:17] <gremble> Sleep is for the weak
[20:18] <Kilos> hmm...
[20:19] <superfly> night all
[20:20] <Kilos> night superfly  
[20:20] <Kilos> sleep tight
[20:38] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:38] <inetpro> good night oom
[20:38] <Kilos> gremble  school tomorrow go sleep
[20:39] <Kilos> night inetpro