[00:01] <moodyred> Torvil: why. Is it freezing up that bad you can't preform an update.
[00:02] <notdaniel> how does one set up ubuntu so that it's accessible on the network via its hostname?
[00:02] <moodyred> Torvil: short answer yes. But most people can't install them that way.
[00:03] <daftykins> notdaniel: depends on the OS you're connecting from.
[00:04] <l0rdn1x> daftykins, would installing Mate alongside Unity cause problems?
[00:04] <daftykins> pass
[00:04] <notdaniel> daftykins: well for instance we have a synology storage server on the network, and from osx it can be reached at diskstation.local and from windows it can be reached from just diskstation. currently running an ubuntu server and can only access it via IP currently
[00:05] <moodyred> Torvil: you'll probably never boot past grub if you try to install them yourself.
[00:06] <l0rdn1x> daftykins, you're not sure?
[00:06] <daftykins> i don't do desktop, l0rdn1x
[00:06] <l0rdn1x> ah ok
[00:06] <moodyred> notdaniel: You need a server running.
[00:06] <DontStarve> notdaniel: You could edit the /etc/hosts file to replace ip with computername
[00:06] <daftykins> notdaniel: perhaps SAMBA installed might help, or hosts file edits on the other systems might help
[00:07] <notdaniel> it's running an smb server, but diskstation can be accessed via just ssh by its hostname as well, the ubuntu server not so much
[00:07] <evoltech> I I am trying to install ubuntu 14.04 on a EFI/GPT partition table, with encrypted root and swap.  While I am able to create the disk and continue with installation, when O reboot the system after install the boot loader never starts and no OS is found.  Can anyone shed some light on this issue and help me get to a bootable system?
[00:07] <notdaniel> i dont want to manually edit the hostnames of all our machines, haha. just wondering how the synology does it. it's not acting as the router or anything
[00:07] <moodyred> notdaniel: can you reach it by up
[00:08] <notdaniel> ip? yes
[00:08] <moodyred> Ip yes
[00:08] <notdaniel> its hostname on the network is just 'apsalus', does that need to be set like something specific like 'apsalus.local' or whatever?
[00:08] <daftykins> .local tends to get added by routers and so on, or it's the mac speak of networking
[00:09] <notdaniel> the diskstation i can just plug into the network and the other machines find it by hostname without any additional changes to anything
[00:09] <daftykins> well yeah, because it's an appliance meant to be connected to
[00:09] <daftykins> now, i said install samba... hop to it :)
[00:10] <notdaniel> samba is running
[00:10] <notdaniel> i can mount volumes, just via IP
[00:10] <daftykins> you need to play with the config a bit so it advertises itself
[00:10] <Newk> could someone please tell me what hwdep is and how to use it for device names?
[00:28] <skinkitten> what's the best way to increase the volume on a mp4! with! zero noise
[00:29] <skinkitten> first time #ubuntu is quiet..
[00:36] <Thor> Hi, I've just freshly installed my computer with 14.04 netinstall booting in EFI mode, I get a gui and all that jazz, but at 1024x764, so I'm attempting to install the propritary Nvidia drivers that are newer than ubuntu provided drivers as I got a GTX 980 in the machine, unfortunatley I can't get a working tty, the monitor just goes blank when I try switch to a tty
[00:36] <Thor> I have set GRUB_TERMINAL=console and GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 to see if they would help, but nither option gives me a working tty. Any ideas?
[00:40] <maimster> Thor: I just fixed this problem... thinking...
[00:40] <avis> i am curious if ubuntu will ever work with older hardware.  lts is obviously important to people and i'm certain there are tons of core 2 duos 3.0ghz out there that need homes.  i have a speedy amd but wish i could run 14.04 lts on older hardware
[00:40] <Thor> avis: ubuntu will run quite well on older hardware
[00:41] <maimster> Thor: When you install the nVidia drivers are you getting errors? Is the script running through without problems?
[00:41] <Thor> even better if you swap out unity for lxde or similar
[00:41] <Thor> maimster: I'm unable to start it cause X is running
[00:41] <maimster> Thor: Did you stop lightdm, with sudo service lightdm stop.
[00:42] <Thor> maimster: I'm left with a blank screen then, since I don't have a working tty
[00:42] <maimster> Thor: Is tty7 also blank?
[00:42] <Thor> yep
[00:42] <maimster> Thor: Interesting...
[00:43] <maimster> Thor: I remember having to remove Ubuntu's nouveau drivers, and modules.
[00:44] <maimster> Thor: Then stopping lightdm, to install the nVidia drivers. Jeez I just did this like 2 days ago. Freakin age kils my memory.
[00:44] <Thor> with the gtx 980 it doesn't seem to load the nouveau drivers, but I'll try removing it
[00:44] <Thor> maimster: history? :P
[00:44] <maimster> Thor: Ahh checking...
[00:45] <danl> anyone ever got a broadcom BCM43231 working without ndiswrapper?
[00:45] <Thor> maimster: 90% of my system documentation is in history :D
[00:46] <danl> (specifically the netgear wna3100)
[00:46] <maimster> Thor: Seems like I'm always reinstalling the nVidia drivers when I get updates done to the kernel. Which breaks the drives. I just rerun the script and all is good until the next kernel update. :o)
[00:47] <maimster> Thor: Your speaking about the .bash_history file right?
[00:47] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | Thor :; have you tried ->
[00:48] <Thor> trying that
[00:48] <maimster> Thor: I'm using the GTX 750TI I was lucky in that the nouveau drivers booted me into a really low resolution.
[00:49] <Thor> Bashing-om: that was it! :)
[00:49] <Thor> thanks
[00:50] <Bashing-om> maimster: For my info, what method did you use to install the propritary driver for your 750ti ?
[00:50] <Bashing-om> Thor: Great, ya still need to install a proprietary driver, as no driver is avail in the repo .
[00:51] <maimster> Bashing-om: I went to tty1, then sudo service lightdm stop. Which allowed me to install the drivers.
[00:51] <Bashing-om> maimster: Yeah, but from what PPA or OEM ?
[00:51] <maimster> Bashing-om: I then do small changes to xorg.conf and 1680x1050 works fine.
[00:51] <Thor> Bashing-om: figured that :P
[00:51] <maimster> Bashing-om: I downloaded from nVidia.com
[00:52] <maimster> Bashing-om: Once I downloaded the file, I chmod 755 to it. Then run sh ./filename and it worked.
[00:52] <Bashing-om> maimster: thanks ( there are 2 trusted PPAs ) .
[00:52] <maimster> Bashing-om: True, I tried not to use them if I don't have to.
[00:53] <maimster> Bashing-om: I'm a paranoid little man.
[00:53] <Thor> and it looks like the install went flawlessly :)
[00:53] <Bashing-om> maimster: l :-) .
[00:54] <maimster> Thor: Thinking how in the world can we get pass the black screens. Even using the grub loader I would know what to add to it.
[00:55] <Thor> maimster: nomodset worked ;)
[00:55] <Thor> *modeset
[00:55] <maimster> Thor: Ahh sweet!!!
[00:55] <Thor> once I logged in all the monitors sprung to life at native resolution :)
[00:55] <maimster> Thor: so your up and running?
[00:56] <Thor> yup
[00:56] <maimster> Thor: GR8!
[00:56] <maimster> Thor: That g-card is using is NO JOKE!
[00:56] <maimster> Thor: You running Steam with it?
[00:57] <Thor> maimster: actually not going to use it for gaming on ubuntu at all
[00:57] <maimster> Thor: Why all the meat then?
[00:57] <Thor> I just want a base os that I can install e19 on and have a good terminal on for development :P
[00:57] <Thor> maimster: I game on windows
[00:57] <Thor> and 3 display ports :)
[00:58] <maimster> Thor: Windows... make me think I'm at work.
[00:58] <Thor> maimster: I'm an avid user of most platforms, beastie on my servers, os x at work, windows and linux at home
[00:59] <maimster> Thor: Nicely done!
[01:00] <Thor> each of them have their strenghts so why not use them to what they are good at? :D
[01:06] <delinquentme> anyone have a script to take all files on a HD and remove all the file hierarchy and drop everything into a single directory?
[01:08] <sojiro_> well ill be damned. installing new nvidia 346 was giving me pains through terminal so i decided to use my linux knowledge from the past week and stop lightdm and then instlal the driver and it worked somehow. wohoo
[01:08] <sojiro_> no more held packages error
[01:11] <Bashing-om> sojiro_: A ubuntu proficiency badge in the offing ?
[01:12] <sojiro_> what is offing?
[01:12] <sojiro_> i am new to linux. so big achievement for me haha
[01:13] <sojiro_> going from easey of stuff in windows to not easy stuff here and there in linux was quite the switch
[01:13] <Bashing-om> sojiro_: pending to be offered (furture tense) .
[01:13] <sojiro_> but the terminal really is damn handy in cases where something was hanging and couldnt get back to desktop
[01:13] <daftykins> 10 points awarded, but instantly deducted since the nvidia driver *does* tell you to stop X to install :P
[01:14] <sojiro_> still dont know what you mean bashing-om, sorry
[01:14] <sojiro_> where does it says that dafty?
[01:14] <sojiro_> the terminal didnt said that :P it only said there where some conflicts and i had to fix it myself
[01:14] <sojiro_> the website maybe
[01:14] <daftykins> when you run nvidia's .run, if you've used the manual download instead of packages
[01:14] <sojiro_> i atleast now know the way how to update
[01:14] <sojiro_> ahh
[01:14] <sojiro_> i first tried the easy way
[01:14] <sojiro_> through terminal
[01:15] <Bashing-om> sojiro_: I was just patting you on the back for a job well done .. making a few more steps on that learning curve . ( it does get easier ) .
[01:15] <sojiro_> but seems, after some googling, that wine got some libopencl that was conflicting
[01:15] <daftykins> i keep hearing that about wine, yeah
[01:15] <sojiro_> thanks Bash, yeah, i feel pretty good about myself for this feat haha
[01:16] <sojiro_> i also fixed a compiz problem i made myself where i suddenly only had black screen and cursor, had to remove and reinstlal compiz through terminal
[01:16] <danl> delinquentme: how would you want your script to handle file name conflicts?
[01:16] <sojiro_> yeah i wonder why wine doenst just use official lib's in that regard
[01:16] <danl> thats a complex scenario
[01:16] <danl> flattening a tree structure
[01:16] <danl> I mean it's easy enough to do, ignoring all possible error scenarios
[01:17] <sojiro_> damn, well, the newest nvidia still doesnt fix the weird red outline in 2 games i have, so odd
[01:24] <qxt> Is VFIO_PCI_VGA set to "y" in the default config? I changed a lot of settings when I compiled my kernel. Could somebody take a look?
[01:24] <ph88> anyone know what i can do about this?  libGL error: Version 4 or later of flush extension not found libGL error: failed to load driver: i915
[01:24] <qxt> cat /boot/config* | grep VFIO
[01:24] <daftykins> compiling your own kernel isn't really intended
[01:25] <qxt> if you are going to pass GPUs to your kvm clients and your machine it might be
[01:26] <qxt> daftykins, if CONFIG_VFIO_PCI_VGA is set to "y" then I don't need to do this anymore.
[01:26] <qxt> the way to see that is   cat /boot/config* |grep VFIO
[01:26] <daftykins> yeah you're on your own with that errand :)
[01:27] <qxt> there are 1665 ppl here. I am sure more then 1 person knows how to compile a kernel.
[01:28] <daftykins> maybe one of them is happy to help, yeah.
[01:28] <qxt> atm I am on Debian Wheezy Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:29] <qxt> So I can'
[01:29] <daftykins> then perhaps you should go bug #debian
[01:29] <daftykins> :>
[01:29] <qxt> and there it works
[01:29] <qxt> if I compile the kernel
[01:40] <qxt> Can somebody that uses Ubuntu tell me if they see "y" for VFIO_PCI_VGA ? Not sure if Ubuntu has that compiled into the kernel or not.  cat /boot/config* | grep VFIO_PCI_VGA
[01:43] <Bashing-om> qxt: -> CONFIG_VFIO_PCI_VGA=y , CONFIG_VFIO_PCI_VGA=y .
[01:45] <qxt> Bashing-om, awesome. Gonna install it now. For once Ubuntu did something real nice =)
[01:46] <Bashing-om> qxt :)
[01:53] <delinquentme> can I use an ubuntu live disk to recover a bad file system?
[01:53] <Fohlen> yes
[01:53] <daftykins> yes
[01:54] <Fohlen> but there's a few other distros which might fit better
[01:54] <Fohlen> parted magic or so on
[01:54] <Fohlen> (depending on if that live machine has internet access -> if so, it doesn't matter anyways)
[01:54] <delinquentme> so the broken HD was ... and ubuntu machine
[01:54] <delinquentme> and =  an *  ... so im just trying to get the HD bootable again
[01:56] <delinquentme> OH. and I know its not the right channel ... b ut do SSD HDs go bad less often than disk drives?
[01:56] <daftykins> there's no data on that, SSDs do fail
[02:02] <delinquentme> How do I completely erase the funky U3 formating the ubuntu startup disk creator makes on my jump drive?
[02:07] <SchrodingersScat> delinquentme: I think that's a manufacturer thing
[02:14] <SchrodingersScat> delinquentme: just confirmed, I have an old sandisk device that has a U3 partition.  This has nothing to do with ubuntu, your beef is with sandisk :(
[02:15] <daftykins> SchrodingersScat: does it not appear erasable?
[02:15] <daftykins> eraseable o0 hrmm
[02:16] <SchrodingersScat> daftykins: I believe it's ro
[02:16] <daftykins> ah that's annoying
[02:16] <SchrodingersScat> daftykins: er, I think someone came up with a way to unlock it, but I've never tried it.
[02:17] <piter-de-vries> wat
[02:17] <piter-de-vries> did a server fail?
[02:17] <SchrodingersScat> !netsplit | piter-de-vries
[02:18] <SchrodingersScat> piter-de-vries: and they should come rushing back...soon
[02:18] <piter-de-vries> That's awesome
[02:18] <piter-de-vries> oh ok
[02:18] <piter-de-vries> Thanks
[02:18] <khaya> I have a laptop with ubuntu 14.04 LTS and a desktop with windows 7 on the same lan.  how can I backup the windows 7 pc from ubuntu laptop?
[02:18] <piter-de-vries> Ironic your name is Shrodingers Cat
[02:24] <piter-de-vries> Aaaand SchrodingersScat was right
[02:24] <piter-de-vries> I wonder what kind of server failed or discconected or rebooted
[02:24] <piter-de-vries> disconnected
[02:25] <piter-de-vries> all these auto reconnex
[02:25] <Thor> it's pretty standard thing
[02:25] <SchrodingersScat> piter-de-vries: it happens, hang around long enough and you'll see it more, it's off-topic though ;) so !ot
[02:26] <piter-de-vries> understand, thnx
[02:26] <piter-de-vries> DNS server maybe/
[02:27] <piter-de-vries> what is the "topics" here?
[02:27] <daftykins> OS support
[02:27] <daftykins> like the topic says
[02:27] <daftykins> !topic
[02:27] <piter-de-vries> !topic
[02:27] <piter-de-vries> oh okay reading
[02:28] <piter-de-vries> thanks
[02:28] <piter-de-vries> I'm on Ubuntu 14.04, but am a serious newb compared to developers
[02:29] <Thor> we all started there :)
[02:29] <piter-de-vries> Kinda scary waters
[02:30] <jimmyd> i thinks it liberating
[02:30] <jimmyd> it'S
[02:31] <piter-de-vries> yeah thats true
[02:31] <piter-de-vries> liberating
[02:32] <Bashing-om> piter-de-vries: "Kinda scary waters" no bullets flying, no blood shed // all it takes is time, curiousity and a willingness to learn .. Ya have come a long way .
[02:32] <piter-de-vries> Why cant I put icons on my desktop :(
[02:34] <samthewildone> I'm getting the same error on a fresh ubuntu install.
[02:34] <samthewildone> libgstreamer
[02:34] <daftykins> !details
[02:35] <samthewildone> daftykins, I'm trying to replicate error
[02:35] <samthewildone> daftykins, I'm trying to replicate error
[02:35] <daftykins> that's still zero detail
[02:35] <daftykins> construct a FULL sentence
[02:36] <Thor> piter-de-vries: how are you trying to put the icons on the desktop, and what kind? shortcut to an application?
[02:36] <samthewildone> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/rebVdU6U
[02:36] <piter-de-vries> Yes, I get some apps have permissions, is it always about sudo command stuff/
[02:36] <piter-de-vries> ?
[02:36] <piter-de-vries> curious
[02:37] <piter-de-vries> in fact it seems like most fo my harddrive is locked by ubuntu
[02:37] <daftykins> samthewildone: still no explanation
[02:37] <piter-de-vries> I am dat root user
[02:37] <piter-de-vries> I am da man
[02:37] <piter-de-vries> lol
[02:37] <piter-de-vries> Thor: halp
[02:38] <Thor> piter-de-vries: normally you should be your own user and not really be messing about anywhere outside your home directory (/home/youruser)
[02:39] <Ben64> piter-de-vries: what are you trying to accomplish
[02:39] <piter-de-vries> I only log in as user/root
[02:39] <piter-de-vries> clicka nd drag to the desktop
[02:39] <Ben64> you should never log in as root
[02:39] <piter-de-vries> simple GUI shit
[02:39] <Ben64> and watch the language here
[02:39] <bazhang> no cursing here piter-de-vries
[02:39] <rypervenche> !language | piter-de-vries
[02:39] <Ben64> give a specific example of what you're not able to do
[02:39] <piter-de-vries> understood sir
[02:39] <piter-de-vries> my bad
[02:39] <bazhang> piter-de-vries, never use root
[02:40] <bazhang> piter-de-vries, are you seriously irc'ing as root
[02:40] <piter-de-vries> halp
[02:40] <piter-de-vries> Im a linux advocate
[02:40] <bazhang> piter-de-vries, stop that
[02:40] <cuddylier> How do I view the number of processes each process name has?
[02:40] <cuddylier> In a list
[02:42] <piter-de-vries> does everyone else download the gnome desktop?
[02:42] <piter-de-vries> is that what Im missing? currious
[02:42] <daftykins> no they don't
[02:42] <piter-de-vries> no worries
[02:42] <bazhang> gnome-shell do you mean?
[02:42] <piter-de-vries> is gnome shell a gui?
[02:42] <bazhang> piter-de-vries, ask an actual question, all on one line
[02:42] <piter-de-vries> oic
[02:43] <piter-de-vries> how do i put a firefox shortcut on my ubuntu 14.04 desktop
[02:43] <piter-de-vries> google didnt help
[02:44] <xangua> run it, right clic, select to pin it to the unity launcher
[02:44] <xangua> asuming you use unity
[02:44] <piter-de-vries> idk ubuntu 14.04 64x
[02:44] <Thor> by default you got unity then
[02:47] <r3z> So I have the weirdest issue
[02:47] <r3z> When my ubuntu server is online it causes packet loss on my network with specific cable modems.
[02:47] <r3z> I down the nic and it goes away
[02:48] <Thor> r3z: does it continue if you disable another client on the network instead?
[02:48] <r3z> Yep
[02:48] <r3z> Only my server thats the issue
[02:48] <r3z> Tried different hardware
[02:49] <r3z> swapped drives in to another system
[02:49] <r3z> also tried different ports on switch
[02:49] <r3z> and a couple different cable modems
[02:49] <r3z> Not all cable modems are affected
[02:49] <r3z> Weirdest thing I have ever seen
[02:49] <r3z> I looked at packet traces and do not see any weird traffic
[02:49] <daftykins> maybe it's not running with the same MTU
[02:49] <r3z> Lemme double check mtu
[02:50] <r3z> MTU is standard 1500
[02:51] <daftykins> and on the other systems on the network?
[02:51] <r3z> 1500 on my laptop
[02:51] <daftykins> motherboard based NIC on this server?
[02:52] <verzion> nah. must be a overstock celeron e-machines they had laying in the back somewhere
[02:52] <r3z> Doesnt matter
[02:52] <r3z> swapped to different nic
[02:52] <r3z> Poweredge 2950
[02:53] <verzion> oh shoot my bad guys wrong channel i thought we were talking smack about freenode's netsplit galore
[02:53] <daftykins> latest BIOS?
[02:53] <daftykins> verzion: goodbye
[02:53] <verzion> sorry guys
[02:56] <r3z> Latest bios as well
[02:56] <Guest19985> ok so I've got a live USB running an operating $ df is the device that I need to recover
[02:56] <Guest19985> ?
[02:56] <piter-de-vries> flash dat bios
[02:56] <piter-de-vries> flash dem breasts
[02:57] <Guest19985> ok so I've got a live USB running an operating system on a machine whos primary HD I need to recover ....  $ df is the device that I need to recover
[02:57] <piter-de-vries> boot from USB? yes?
[02:58] <Guest19985> piter-de-vries:yes
[02:59] <Thor> Guest19985: if it's a standard SATA hard disk it should be /dev/sd something(eg. /dev/sda if it's the first disk, /dev/sdb if it's the second. etc.)
[02:59] <Bashing-om> Guest19985: " df is the device " does not compute;  from the liveDVD pastebinit -> sudo fdisk -lu <- to identify the device .
[03:00] <piter-de-vries> you cant mount it
[03:00] <piter-de-vries> mount it
[03:00] <piter-de-vries> curious? idk
[03:00] <piter-de-vries> external drive?
[03:01] <r3z> Any ideas./
[03:02] <Thor> r3z: I've never had issues with my 2950 at least, could be your switch or gateway that has some odd configuration like mtu?
[03:03] <Guest19985> im trying to mount right now... $ sudo mount /dev/sda /media/internalHD -t ext4 ... complains at me ... saying its abad fs type  or possibly a bad super block on /dev/sda
[03:06] <Thor> Guest19985: have you tried a fsck on the disk?
[03:07] <Guest19985> trying now
[03:07] <Bashing-om> Guest19985: Try to mount like theis: -> sudo mkdir /mnt/test , sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/test <- IF the partition to mount is on that 1st hard drive and the 1st partition .
[03:10] <Guest19985> Thor: reports that superblock cant be read
[03:11] <Thor> Guest19985: does Bashing-om's suggestion work?
[03:13] <Guest19985> yeah its says " wrong fs type "
[03:14] <Bashing-om> Guest19985: Thor :: spare off the super block ? -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2177756 .
[03:14] <cage_raphel> Hello!!
[03:14] <Thor> Guest19985: https://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/repair-a-broken-ext4-superblock-in-ubuntu/ might be a resource as well
[03:15] <cage_raphel> i am new to ubuntu.. recent installed ubuntu 10.4.. loving it !! can someone pls suggest me a good security software ( anti virus ) for ubuntu ?
[03:15] <Thor> basicly the same as what Bashing-om posted I see
[03:15] <bazhang> cage_raphel, desktop?
[03:15] <cage_raphel> @bazhang.. laptop
[03:16] <bazhang> cage_raphel, desktop as opposed to server version
[03:16] <cage_raphel> i dont quite understand your question mate?
[03:16] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Desktop 10.04 is EOL and has NO security updates ! .. install a current release .
[03:16] <Guest19985> $ sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sda .. this returns info on the supeblock
[03:16] <bazhang> cage_raphel, 10.04 desktop is not supported
[03:17] <Guest19985> OS type: Linux ... DOES however display
[03:17] <cage_raphel> my apologies.... i am using ubuntu 14.10
[03:17] <bazhang> cage_raphel, get 14.04 for the latest LTS
[03:17] <cage_raphel> i am looking for a anti virus software for ubuntu 14.10
[03:17] <xangua> !antivirus | cage_raphel
[03:17] <bazhang> cage_raphel, not needed
[03:17] <cage_raphel> wow!! really ???
[03:18] <Bashing-om> Guest19985: Follow the instructions and copy in another super block from the backups .
[03:18] <cage_raphel> thats freaking awesome!!
[03:18] <bazhang> cage_raphel, really
[03:18] <cage_raphel> thanks mate !!
[03:18] <Thor> very few viruses for linux cage_raphel, so really :)
[03:18] <cage_raphel> Thor.. do i need to be still concerned from those very few viruses u mentioned ?
[03:18] <Thor> nope
[03:18] <bazhang> cage_raphel, no
[03:19] <cage_raphel> ahh nice !! thanks mate !! Cheers !! :)
[03:19] <bazhang> welcome
[03:19] <Thor> as long as you get software from the ubuntu repositories, you are pretty safe cage_raphel :)
[03:19] <cage_raphel> ahh alright!! thanks mate !!
[03:19] <Ahmuck> is there a way to convert an img to an iso in ubuntu?
[03:19] <Guest19985> so if while attempting to make a bootable USB last night with a external USB drive ... which has U3 ....   I issued the command to delete the contents of that external USB ...
[03:20] <Roehmer> hi does anyone have any experience using iptables?
[03:20] <Guest19985> it seems through the magic of U3 .. INSTEAD of the exernal usb drive ... it pointed at my internal file systme
[03:20] <Guest19985> SO ... is there any chance that a delete action from the startup disk creator ... assuming that it ran on my internal HD ...
[03:20] <Guest19985> is that recoverable
[03:20] <Guest19985> ?
[03:20] <Ahmuck> Roehmer, what is the purpose?
[03:20] <r3z> Checked MTU on modem is 1500
[03:21] <r3z> Need to go get in to my switch and check mtu
[03:21] <r3z> Need to also try to manually set port speed and duplex
[03:22] <Bashing-om> Guest19985: If there is more gine than the bootcode and partition table on sda .. test disk to the rescue -> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step , http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15761/recover-data-like-a-forensics-expert-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/ .
[03:24] <dupingping> hi
[03:24] <dupingping> I logged in 12.04 as root.
[03:25] <dupingping> but the screensaver locking is not running.
[03:25] <bazhang> dupingping, never do that
[03:25] <dupingping> umm?
[03:25] <bazhang> dupingping, just use sudo, never root
[03:25] <dupingping> I see.
[03:25] <dupingping> but
[03:25] <Roehmer> Ahmuck, I'm trying to figure out the correct iptables commands to have a machine forward http requests sent to it's private DNS to a dedicated target url
[03:25] <dupingping> I just need to login as root.
[03:26] <bazhang> sudo -i for a root shell, if you must
[03:26] <bazhang> you never need to log in as root
[03:26] <Ahmuck> Roehmer, #iptables?
[03:26] <dupingping> I think so. for security.
[03:26] <Roehmer> Ahmuck: oh man, great, didn't see that channel
[03:26] <Roehmer> sorry for the polution here
[03:26] <bazhang> dupingping, thats the exact opposite of security
[03:27] <Ahmuck> Roehmer, np
[03:27] <bazhang> it's #netfilter
[03:27] <dupingping> what do you mean?
[03:27] <dupingping> netfilter?
[03:27] <bazhang> not #iptables
[03:27] <Roehmer> yea, thanks
[03:28] <bazhang> not you dupingping
[03:28] <dupingping> yes
[03:29] <Ahmuck> iptables fowards to netfilter
[03:29] <IrfaNeox> hi all
[03:42] <reed99_> anyone really good at linux here?
[03:43] <reed99_> anyone smart???
[03:43] <Thor> !ask
[03:43] <reed99_> im on the raspi b+ firnware and i wanna coppy over my own firware so i can run it but i cant get root whatever i do :\ its got a login but i cant crack it :\ it looks like it was set up just for the raspi crew i can get unames but pass words wont even give me encryptions
[03:43] <reed99_> i wanna run it with more ram
[03:43] <reed99_> for ubuntu
[03:44] <reed99_> its a little slow
[03:44] <reed99_> to say the least
[03:44] <reed99_> i just need root first i figured someone would know a linux exstention or comand that would make (cd /pwd) not come up as /bin but something i can work with
[03:44] <reed99_> im sry not cd
[03:44] <reed99_> just pwd its a script
[03:45] <reed99_> is there a basic linux cmd that pings for file info
[03:45] <reed99_> anyone???
[03:47] <reed99_> im on the raspi b+ firnware and i wanna coppy over my own firware so i can run it but i cant get root whatever i do :\ its got a login but i cant crack it :\ it looks like it was set up just for the raspi crew i can get unames but pass words wont even give me encryptions i just need root first i figured someone would know a linux exstention or comand that would make I’m trying to open the "bin/pwd” file  but i just get /bin i n
[03:47] <reed99_> please
[03:48] <daftykins> i didn't think you could get ubuntu for the pi
[03:50] <Thor> I think armv6 is on ubuntu's list?
[03:50] <metamp> is Ubuntu a betere ditribution than Arch?
[03:50] <Thor> that's a very subjective thing
[03:50] <bazhang> metamp, try #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[03:50] <metamp> I used Backtrack which was Ubuntu based and I liked it
[03:50] <metamp> more than Fedora
[03:51] <sb0> hi. how can I build a kernel package for ubuntu utopic based on the linus git tree? I guess I need to rebase http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-utopic.git;a=tree - but how?
[03:51] <bazhang> metamp, also not on topic here
[03:51] <Thor> daftykins: yup, ARM is on the list of things they are working on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM
[03:52] <bazhang> #ubuntu-arm exists
[03:52] <Thor> but not armv6
[03:52] <Thor> (so no raspberry-pi support)
[03:52] <bazhang> probably #raspbian for that
[03:53] <Thor> yup
[04:07] <ci3> Hello.
[04:07] <daftykins> hi
[04:10] <dtscode> are there any good ps1, gamecube, and gameboy advance emus for ubuntu?
[04:14] <hemebond> Can someone please advise me on how best to debug an issue with 3D games completely crashing/locking up my PC?
[04:14] <ci3> What sort of video drivers are you using?
[04:15] <hemebond> I'm currently using the Nvidia 304 binary drivers from their website.
[04:15] <hemebond> But I have tried several up to the latest as well as those from the repository.
[04:15] <ci3> Hrmm. I've had some issues with my nvidia drivers too. What model?
[04:15] <hemebond> This issue started in the middle of last year. I have an Nvidia GeForce GTX 570
[04:16] <daftykins> memtest?
[04:16] <ci3> I'm running a Gtx 750. I would suggest completely uninstalling all of your nvidia drivers, and only trying to install from the ppa.
[04:16] <ci3> don't bother with the binary.
[04:16] <hemebond> ci3: I tried that but it wouldn't even detect my monitors.
[04:17] <ci3> You don't have integrated graphics? :/
[04:17] <hemebond> No
[04:17] <daftykins> don't say that like it's a bad thing
[04:17] <daftykins> so, memtest?
[04:17] <daftykins> PPA 304 not working doesn't make any sense
[04:17] <ci3> Humm. Not a bad thing. Try the 340.
[04:17] <daftykins> not PPA but official ubuntu repos
[04:18] <ci3> sudo apt-get install nvidia-340
[04:18] <hemebond> daftykins: Currently checking options for this. memtest86? Looks like I'll need to do it from boot.
[04:18] <daftykins> 340 isn't in the repos
[04:18] <daftykins> memtest86+ yeah, should be on the GRUB menu
[04:18] <ci3> I just installed it this afternoon!
[04:18] <daftykins> !info nvidia-340
[04:18] <hemebond> daftykins: I'll need to find and burn a CD or USB stick.
[04:18] <daftykins> nope.
[04:18] <daftykins> ci3: perhaps you're referring to the xorg edgers PPA you have installed, or some such
[04:18] <hemebond> ci3: I should have mentioned I'm running ElementaryOS Luna which is Ubuntu 12.04.
[04:19] <ci3> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[04:19] <daftykins> hemebond: no, it's in as default
[04:19] <ci3> Yes, it is that one, daftykins.
[04:19] <daftykins> !elementary | hemebond sorry regardless of issue we don't support elementary in here.
[04:19] <daftykins> but no, just hold left shift at boot then pick memtest
[04:19] <hemebond> I see. Well they didn't replace Xorg but I'll go over there and ask for help.
[04:20] <hemebond> Thanks, will give it a shot now.
[04:20] <ci3> good luck! I've had a lot of success getting my stuff running with 340 though.
[04:20] <hemebond> ci3: I've tried the binary 340 and 346 drivers and had the same problem.
[04:21] <hemebond> It doesn't seem to be every 3D game, just most.
[04:21] <ci3> Is this through wine?
[04:21] <hemebond> Do you know of a way to test the graphics card itself?
[04:21] <hemebond> No, native Linux games like Quake 2.
[04:21] <hemebond> (YamagiQ2)
[04:21] <hemebond> Actually I should test ioquake3 to see if that's affected.
[04:22] <hemebond> If I suddenly disappear it's because Linux has locked up, stopped my displays and stopped responding to keyboard input.
[04:23] <daftykins> i'd confirm it across different OSs (Windows) after checking system stability
[04:23] <daftykins> maybe even disk health
[04:23] <daftykins> hemebond: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[04:23] <hemebond> daftykins: Yes, I have Windows 7 installed too and I actually experienced issues in there too. Even though initial tests didn't show any problems in Windows 7. That's why I've downgraded the drivers.
[04:24] <daftykins> sounds like hardware then
[04:24] <ci3> mreh. that's a bummer. you could always just get a new graphics card. :)
[04:24] <hemebond> daftykins: Thanks, I didn't have much luck with that.
[04:24] <daftykins> anyway, memtest... then maybe if you run ubuntu we can assist
[04:24] <daftykins> but it sounds like a wonky card.
[04:24] <hemebond> Sometimes it worked, especially if I mashed the keys quick enough, but I could never get the system to recover even then.
[04:24] <daftykins> it reboots, not recover :D
[04:24] <ci3> Maybe it's loose? Did you check the connection in the case itself?
[04:25] <daftykins> lol.
[04:25] <daftykins> you would NOT see a picture at all if it was the connection
[04:26] <ci3> :P
[04:26] <hemebond> I have removed and re-installed the card several times, cleaning/dusting it each time.
[04:27] <hemebond> After I installed the 304 drivers I tried to login without rebooting first and the screens turned green and the system locked up. Worked fine after a reboot. Behaviour there seems similar.
[04:27] <daftykins> maybe that's the problem, static ;)
[04:27] <daftykins> anyway you've plenty to be going on
[04:29] <hemebond> ioquake3 works fine. going to remove high-res textures from q2 and test that again
[04:31] <daftykins> those games are far too old and rubbish to stress test such a card
[04:32] <hemebond> Well high-res textures would use up all the card RAM
[04:32] <daftykins> doubt it
[05:00] <Foxhoundz> What DNS server does Ubuntu's tasksel install?
[05:00] <Foxhoundz> BIND?
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[05:01] <lowryder> Lambodie_Dance: you seem unhappy
[05:01] <Foxhoundz> Anyone?
[05:05] <Foxhoundz> ugh
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[05:12] <liath> hello all. had a question about how do do a strange-sounding thing in networking
[05:13] <liath> I'd like to be able to use transmission (its lightweight) but also use QoS.  one idea I have mostly implemented is to use a second interface to bind transmission to so I can still catch traffic for torrents with my pf rotuer
[05:15] <ak5> hi, any russian channel?
[05:15] <liath> problem is that transmission is also attempting to update tracker through that iface which means it needs 'outside' access, and there sin't a default gateway
[05:15] <daftykins> !ru
[05:15] <ak5> ty
[05:16] <liath> I think there is a way to do it I just can't wrap my head around it. I attempted to set a static route but that so far hasn't worked, and I don't think it'd work as I intend anyhow since things may come in one interface and leave through another
[05:18] <liath> and the guides I have looked up show how to do this on seperate gateways, but I essentially need both eth0 and eth1 use the same default gateway (but perhaps set the metric for eth1 high so it isn't preferred unless a process is bound to it)
[05:18] <liath> any ideas or guides on how I might accomplish this?
[05:19] <liath> or some other, more elegant and hackish solution?
[05:19] <liath> more elegant and less hackish, even :D
[05:21] <liath> actually I should probably post this oen to forums... might require some fanagling :D
[05:21] <liath> plus I just got done workign for 19 hours :D
[05:38] <evoltech> Hello all!  I am attempting to install Ubuntu 14.04 on a GPT encrypted root partition and encrypted swap.  I do not want to use the full disk so I use the custum installed. After I get all the partiions installed correctly the installer continues.  When I eventually reboot its like there is no grub and eventually the BiOS reports no OS found.  Can any one help me out here?
[05:38] <daftykins> separate /boot ?
[05:42] <evoltech> daftykins: was that directed at me?  Yes there is a seperate boot partiion that is not encrypted set to mount on /boot and is ext2
[05:45] <chintit_> Drone': hello  Drone'
[05:47] <daftykins> evoltech: so you booted in EFI mode then?
[05:48] <brandonbart> Hey guys I have a major problem with Grub to the point where I can’t even boot up my computer. Could somebody help please?
[05:48] <cfhowlett> !ask | brandonbart
[05:49] <cfhowlett> !ops | spam via PM   <Lambodie_Dance> This is Ryan from Innovative Marine. We sell a 16 gallon Nuvo Tank. Some good fish for that tank are standard Clown Fish, Purple or Red Fire Fish, Shrimp & Goby Pairs, Lawnmower or Midas Blennys, or an Orchid Dottyback.
[05:50] <DalekSec> cfhowlett: That nick isn't in here.
[05:50] <cfhowlett> DalekSec, ?  OK .. must have snuck in from a different channel.
[05:53] <brandonbart> Alright basically I have a pc with Windows 8 which has linux dual booted. It used Grub boot loader to pick which boot every time I started my computer. I stopped using linux for a while so I deleted the partition for Linux and reallocated it so windows can use it. Everything was all well and good until i restarted my computer. Thats when it said “error: no such device: 8a69b.. Entering rescue mode…”  and now i am in grub rescue.
[05:53] <brandonbart> can’t boot into windows and now I only have my mac laptop from which I am using this chat on. How can I get my computer back.
[05:54] <cfhowlett> brandonbart, so you want only windows, rigth?
[05:54] <cfhowlett> *right*?
[05:54] <brandonbart> Yes cfhowlett
[05:55] <brandonbart> Also I do not have a windows repair disc or anything of the sort, cfhowlett
[05:55] <cfhowlett> brandonbart, ask ##windows ... but pretty sure you'll need the windows USB and run windows repair.  ask ##windows
[05:55] <cfhowlett> brandonbart, it's a windows issue and requires windows tools to fix.  download is available.  ask ##windows for support
[05:56] <brandonbart> Alright thanks cfhowlett
[05:57] <manpits> !s a walk among tombstones
[06:10] <shine_> if you are a student that want chat with others,please take part in #student
[06:11] <shine_> t that want chat with others,please take part in #student
[06:18] <uber_hulk> Encrypting home dir is as safe as encrypting the drive
[06:18] <uber_hulk> ?
[06:19] <cfhowlett> !encryption | uber_hulk
[06:19] <cfhowlett> uber_hulk, "as safe as" ?  It's the same process.
[06:19] <Alissa> I downloaded Ubuntu about a year ago onto a CD and finally got a computer I thought would be able to run it successfully. I'm tring to dualboot it with Windows 8.1 and I'm getting an error when trying to boot it. I used the 'wubi.exe' file on the disk to install it.
[06:19] <uber_hulk> cfhowlett: i know about that i am asking which one is much safer?
[06:20] <uber_hulk> cfhowlett: okay so i could do the encryption later after installing the ubuntu?
[06:20] <cfhowlett> Alissa, wubi has been abandonedware for some time and WILL break ubuntu 14+   Friends don't let friends wubi.
[06:20] <uber_hulk> Encrypt a private dir i mean
[06:20] <Alissa> cfhowlett: I'm using Ubuntu 12.04.
[06:20] <cfhowlett> uber_hulk, yes you can encrypt post installation
[06:20] <uber_hulk> Okay great
[06:20] <Guest22535> ooi
[06:21] <Guest22535> so é ubuntu
[06:22] <Guest22535> pode ir
[06:22] <Guest22535> eu quero como hacker facebook
[06:22] <cfhowlett> !es | Guest22535,
[06:22] <Guest22535> eu quero hack wifi ?
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Guest22535, ENGLISH
[06:23] <Guest22535> hi
[06:24] <Guest22535> ooi
[06:24] <cfhowlett> Guest22535, we see you.
[06:33] <sovetskii> Helloy
[06:45] <cartwright> bustas up in dis here
[06:45] <cartwright> straights bustas
[06:47] <cfhowlett> cartwright, wrong channel
[06:47] <cartwright> who?
[06:48] <cfhowlett> cartwright, for ubuntu support, ask.  with details.  for chitchat = !ubuntu-offtopic
[06:48] <cartwright> what
[06:48] <cartwright>  #ubuntu-offtopic: Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned
[06:49] <cartwright> I don't understand, is this a conspiracy
[06:49] <cartwright> bye
[06:53] <kamelot314> quit
[07:18] <jons> I'm a noob.  Installed crouton on my chromebook.  That gave me ubuntu precise.  I want to install the gstreamer plugins to ge my audio working and from what I'm reading, I should look for them in the appropriate repository for my distribution.  Where do I find this repository?
[07:22] <jons> Bueller?
[07:24] <usmnrd> hi
[07:24] <usmnrd> would you like to spare a min with a hot geek
[07:24] <jons> hi
[07:24] <usmnrd> how are you jons
[07:24] <cfhowlett> usmnrd, stop that immediately
[07:24] <jons> nevermind.  Go away.
[07:25] <usmnrd> Ok.
[07:25] <usmnrd> I am pretty new on it, using for the first time...
[07:25] <usmnrd> in my country, linux has no value, so
[07:32] <jakesyl> Hey, so I'm getting this error in syslog: unable to create lock file /var/mail/root.lock Too many levels of symbolic links
[07:32]  * jakesyl has no idea what a symbolic link is and am just sending emails with mail() in php
[07:42] <jakesyl> why is the top command called top?
[07:47] <rypervenche> jakesyl: ls -ld /var/mail
[07:48] <rypervenche> usmnrd: Welcome to Linux :)
[07:48] <hariom> Why my VM is not able to fetch a URL with domain name? The URL is hitting another VM so if I provide internal IP instead of domain name, it is able to fetch
[07:48] <jakesyl> oh yeah i solved that issue haha, any idea about top?
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> jakesyl: maybe its because it shows process load on 'top' of the list
[07:48] <hariom> I have dns-nameserver set to 8.8.8.8
[07:48] <jakesyl> oh okay, haha thanks I've always wondered about that
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> jakesyl: see also htop
[07:48] <cerberus_> using google dns?
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> !info htop | jakesyl
[07:49] <jakesyl> wow that's so cool
[07:50] <jakesyl> thanks lotuspyschje
[07:51] <jons> Anyone know how I find my repository for my distribution?
[07:51] <hariom> I have two VMs. VM1: 192.168.1.41 and VM2: 192.168.1.51. My domain name is pointing to public ip and nated to 192.168.1.51. But when VM1 i.e. 192.168.1.41 try to access my domain, it just times out. But when I access it using 192.168.1.51, I am able to get result.
[07:52] <hariom> What is missing?
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> hariom: try the ##networking guys
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> !repo | jons
[07:52] <hariom> lotuspsychje: Thanks
[07:53] <jons> Thx ubottu
[07:57] <rypervenche> hariom: Your router is probably not allowing the use of the public IPs. You'll need to use the internal IPs most likely. You can set them up in your /etc/hosts file or with the use of a local DNS server. Or in you router.
[08:22] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> ripthejacker: welcome
[08:23] <ripthejacker> Sidebar doesn't autohide when I resume from lock.
[08:24] <ripthejacker> Please help
[08:24] <ripthejacker> I'm using Ubuntu 14.10
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> ripthejacker: any errors in logs?
[08:24] <ripthejacker> which logs do I check?
[08:24] <ripthejacker> lotuspsychje, ^
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> ripthejacker: syslog, dmesg
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> ripthejacker: you can also do a tail -f /var/log/syslog in realtime then lock and unlock see if you get any errors
[08:36] <OERIAS> Can someone help me upgrade a machine running ubuntu 6.06 to 14.04?
[08:36] <brandonbart> Hey guys I need help. I’m trying to mount my sda2 in order to fix Grub 2 and it says that “The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown Windows fully..” Is there a way to bypass that hibernation flag? I can not access windows at this time
[08:36] <bekks> OERIAS: Reinstall it, thats the fastest and most reasonable way.
[08:37] <OERIAS> bekks, I can't
[08:37] <bekks> OERIAS: Why not?
[08:37] <OERIAS> Most of the data on this machines needs to be in tact
[08:37] <bekks> OERIAS: So back it up.
[08:37] <OERIAS> can I just upgrade via 10.10?
[08:38] <bekks> OERIAS: No.
[08:38] <OERIAS> 8.10 -> 10
[08:38] <bekks> OERIAS: No.
[08:38] <OERIAS> then to 14.0?
[08:38] <bekks> OERIAS: No.
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> !eol | OERIAS
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> !fixgrub | brandonbart
[08:39] <OERIAS> Yes I know it ned of life
[08:40] <OERIAS> I just want to know ifI can upgrade the machine to 14.04
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> OERIAS: bekks already told you
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> OERIAS: there are tools enoug to backup your data and reinstall 14.04 fresh
[08:43] <brandonbart> lotuspsychje that didnt help with my problem
[08:43] <brandonbart> I need to clear the hibernation flag
[08:44] <bekks> brandonbart: So boot up windows, and shut it down correctly, instead hibernating it.
[08:44] <brandonbart> That’s my problem
[08:44] <brandonbart> I cant launch windows
[08:44] <brandonbart> I am in ubuntu to fix boot loader to be able to access windows
[08:44] <bekks> brandonbart: No recovery mode, etc.?
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> brandonbart: sudo update-grub can do miracles sometimes
[08:45] <brandonbart> No recovery bekks
[08:45] <brandonbart> lotuspsychje that did not work
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> brandonbart: you cant enter gurb holding shift at boot?
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> grub
[08:46] <brandonbart> grub is corrupted as I formatted the partition where it was installed
[08:46] <brandonbart> so now whenever i boot my computer it goes into rescue mode
[08:46] <brandonbart> from which i cant do anything
[08:47] <brandonbart> I have been working on this for 5 hours straight
[08:47] <brandonbart> solving one problem to attempt to solve the next
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> brandonbart: try to livecd of ubuntu and try to recover install from there?
[08:48] <brandonbart> I am trying to do that but i need to mount one of my partitions in order to install grub
[08:48] <brandonbart> but I cant mount because of the hibernation issue
[08:49] <EriC^^> brandonbart: why do you need to mount that partition?
[08:49] <EriC^^> brandonbart: ah it was hibernated using ubuntu?
[08:49] <hyperderp> Please help i accidentally over wrote my windows partition
[08:49] <hyperderp> :~
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | brandonbart
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> hyperderp: you want to recover data?
[08:49] <EriC^^> hyperderp: install testdisk
[08:50] <bekks> EriC^^: Writing to that device will cause even more harm.
[08:50] <hyperderp> yes lotuspsychje
[08:50] <hyperderp> i need to recover data cause i failed
[08:50] <EriC^^> brandonbart: you can use grub on the live usb to boot the ubuntu installation that's hibernated
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> hyperderp: install testdisk as EriC^^ suggests, then sudo photorec after
[08:50] <hyperderp> it was a windows 7 partition
[08:50] <brandonbart> no no windows is hibernated
[08:50] <brandonbart> Not ubuntu
[08:50] <EriC^^> hyperderp: use a live usb to install testdisk and see if you can recover it
[08:50] <EriC^^> brandonbart: then that's irrelevant
[08:51] <brandonbart> but i cant access windows
[08:51] <hyperderp> Luckily i have a bootable one already so lets brb EriC^^
[08:51] <hyperderp> cya soon
[08:51] <EriC^^> ok
[08:51] <uber_hulk> Is it normal to have different file sizes in ext3 and vfat?
[08:51] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: yeah
[08:51] <uber_hulk> I copied from ext3 to vfat
[08:51] <uber_hulk> And sizes are changed
[08:51] <uber_hulk> Hope i haven't lost any data
[08:52] <uber_hulk> EriC^^: that mens i haven't lost anything?
[08:52] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: did you use rsync?
[08:52] <EriC^^> it checksums the data
[08:52] <uber_hulk> EriC^^: i simply did cp -dpR
[08:52] <uber_hulk> And it was successful
[08:53] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: i think it's due to the file system difference, make sure though
[08:53] <EriC^^> i dont know for sure..
[08:53] <uber_hulk> But file sizes are different
[08:53] <EriC^^> how big is the data?
[08:54] <EriC^^> maybe copy again with rsync?
[08:54] <uber_hulk> 2 G
[08:54] <uber_hulk> EriC^^: never used rsync how does tis work?
[08:54] <EriC^^> rsync -av <source> <destination>
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> uber_hulk: what kind of data has changed in size
[08:55] <uber_hulk> Folders that contains pictures
[08:55] <EriC^^> brandonbart: no need to access windows
[08:55] <EriC^^> brandonbart: you've lost grub and trying to reinstall grub?
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> uber_hulk: maybe some dataloss?
[08:55] <EriC^^> bekks: what did you mean earlier?
[08:56] <EriC^^> bekks: about testdisk or brandonbart ?
[08:56] <bekks> EriC^^: Well, If he just installed ubuntu, install (writing) even more data to the device is he trying to recover will cause even more loss of data.
[08:56] <uber_hulk> Okay so after mountung i can use rsync to copy paste like rsync -iv source /mnt/usb?
[08:56] <EriC^^> bekks: ok
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> ive been able to recover data with photorec from far away ages, even after multiple reinstalls
[08:57] <brandonbart> EriC^^ I need to access windows in general
[08:57] <brandonbart> that is my main goal
[08:57] <uber_hulk> EriC^^: ?
[08:57] <brandonbart> in order to do that I need to fix grub
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> using testdisk live as EriC^^ suggested might be best way
[08:58] <hyperderp> Im on live cd
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> !rsync | uber_hulk
[08:58] <hyperderp> got testdisk installed
[08:58] <brandonbart> in order to fix grub i need to type in these commands that mount temporary things to these partitions
[08:58] <brandonbart> in order to mount i cant have these hibernation flags
[08:58] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: rsync -av
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> brandonbart: make your life easy and install ubuntu single :p
[08:59] <EriC^^> brandonbart: you dont need to mount the windows partition to reinstall grub
[08:59] <brandonbart> yes because grub is on there
[08:59] <EriC^^> hyperderp: sudo testdisk
[08:59] <brandonbart> and no i cant uninstall windows i have so much stuff on there
[08:59] <hyperderp> yea im doing that now EriC^^
[08:59] <EriC^^> hyperderp: do you have another hdd to transfer the data to?
[08:59] <uber_hulk> EriC^^: cool
[09:00] <hyperderp> EriC^^:  sadly no cause 2 hdd's died on me
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> brandonbart: also recover your data with photorec on windows
[09:00] <EriC^^> hyperderp: as bekks suggested using the same hdd might cause data to be overwritten.. it's up to you
[09:00] <hyperderp> i only really need a certain file
[09:00] <EriC^^> hyperderp: ok
[09:00] <hyperderp> just lets hope that i can recover it
[09:01] <hyperderp> most of the disk will have linux partitioned on it now :(
[09:01] <EriC^^> you can probably recover it
[09:01] <hyperderp> I was like oh yea thats fine. then installed and i was like NO GOD DAMNIT
[09:01] <hyperderp> Brain didn't click on until i installed it lol
[09:01] <EriC^^> i recovered my whole recovery partition ( 18gb ) with testdisk and reinstall win8 with it
[09:02] <hyperderp> only 121600 things to go through lol
[09:02] <uber_hulk> EriC^^: can i own the /mnt /usb?
[09:02] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: yeah sudo chown user:group /mnt
[09:03] <hypermist> :D
[09:03] <hypermist> I was using the nick hyperderp cause i derped :|
[09:03] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: wait, why?
[09:03] <bekks> EriC^^: AS yesterday, chown will not work on vfat :)
[09:03]  * hypermist will leave this to do its thing
[09:04] <zacwalls> Hi I am trying to delete a ppa repo the nvidia launchpad but i cannot find the name of it. I found the repo name in sources.list.d and I tried to delete with the command sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:nvidia-vdpau-ubuntu-ppa-utopic/ppa but it did not work. What am i doing wrong?
[09:04] <uber_hulk> EriC^^: gettig rsync chown /pictures/turkey failed operation not permitted
[09:04] <EriC^^> hypermist: ok, did you press on no log, no log, pressed on the disk, then Intel ?
[09:04] <EriC^^> or analyze then intel ?
[09:05] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: use sudo with rsync
[09:05] <EriC^^> sudo rsync -av ....
[09:05] <EriC^^> bekks: good point
[09:05] <EriC^^> hypermist: it should only take 20 secs..
[09:05] <uber_hulk> EriC^^: yea still
[09:06] <oal> I installed a bunch of .ttf files from a Windows 7 in Ubuntu, and all of a sudden, some fonts are aliased (pixelized). I installed font-manager, but I can't find them there. How can i uninstall the fonts again?
[09:06] <EriC^^> hypermist: ( the quick search and deep search ) it probably wont find anything after the first 20 secs
[09:06] <hypermist> im doing deepsearch
[09:06] <hypermist> 121600 things to through
[09:06] <uber_hulk> EriC^^: any workaround?
[09:06] <EriC^^> hypermist: are some partitions showing up?
[09:06] <hypermist> Its showing lots of linux atm EriC^^
[09:06] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: what's the exact error?
[09:07] <hypermist> thats only at 6000
[09:07] <EriC^^> any other partitions at all?
[09:07] <hypermist> Not atm no
[09:07] <hypermist> Should i stop deep and just do quick ?
[09:07] <uber_hulk> 2:34 PM <uber_hulk> EriC^^: getting rsync: chown "/pictures/turkey" failed operation not permitted
[09:07] <EriC^^> hypermist: no deep is fine
[09:08] <hypermist> i have 121600 things to go through xD
[09:08] <bekks> uber_hulk: you cannot use chown on vfat, which I told you yesterday already.
[09:08] <hypermist> so lets wait
[09:08] <EriC^^> hypermist: try pressing q until you get the intel gpt screen, and press gpt
[09:08] <EriC^^> hypermist: are you using gpt? type sudo parted -l and check if your disk partition table says gpt or msdos
[09:08] <uber_hulk> bekks: is that worrysome in sense of data loose?
[09:09] <bekks> uber_hulk: No.
[09:09] <oal> Never mind, I found the fonts.
[09:09] <hypermist> do i need to open a new terminal EriC^^  ?
[09:09] <EriC^^> hypermist: yeah
[09:09] <uber_hulk> K
[09:09] <bekks> uber_hulk: you just cant set permissions, which is irrelevant for you, as you said you dont care about permissions.
[09:09] <zacwalls> Hello?
[09:09] <hypermist> EriC^^:  msdos
[09:09] <EriC^^> hypermist: ok
[09:09] <hypermist> luckily i only just installed linux
[09:09] <hypermist> xD
[09:09] <uber_hulk> Bekks yep
[09:10] <bekks> uber_hulk: So why is this an issue again today? :)
[09:10] <uber_hulk> Just thought maybe the reason behind data loss
[09:11] <MMN-o> I'm having trouble updating my repositories on IPv6 (he.net). It is specifically the security.ubuntu.com repository (2001:67c:1562::... network). Works over IPv4, times out from IPv6 he.net (Stockholm node) and SixXS.
[09:11] <MMN-o> Can anyone replicate this issue? (I've done it at least two wildly different IPv6 networks).
[09:12] <MMN-o> I cannot ping6 the machines either.
[09:12] <hypermist> EriC^^:  est time for deep search ?
[09:12] <EriC^^> infinity
[09:12] <EriC^^> :P
[09:12] <hypermist> :D good
[09:13] <EriC^^> hypermist: it takes a while, if nothing shows up there's also scrounge-ntfs
[09:13] <hypermist> lets just hope something does show up cause i have a bitcoin wallet in there EriC^^  lol
[09:13] <EriC^^> i've never used it before, so i can't attest to anything
[09:14] <hypermist> so far just lots of linux
[09:15] <hypermist> EriC^^:  do you know if shows Windows or MSDOS ?
[09:15] <zacwalls> How can i open files in terminal?
[09:15] <nmz787> zacwalls: open a text file
[09:15] <nmz787> or run a binary?
[09:15] <hypermist> EriC^^:  and im transitioning from windows to linux so :D
[09:16] <nmz787> if ./yourfile doesn't work, try chmod +x yourfile
[09:16] <nmz787> then ./yourfile
[09:16] <EriC^^> hypermist: it should show ntfs i think
[09:16] <zacwalls> nmz787 I am trying to delete a ppa repo and I am failing
[09:16] <nmz787> (chmod +x add the execute permission to a file)
[09:16] <hypermist> EriC^^:  ah okay
[09:16] <EriC^^> hypermist: i'm checking out scrounge-ntfs seems promising
[09:16] <hypermist> As long as something recovers it i will be happy
[09:16] <zacwalls> nm787 Wat
[09:17] <EriC^^> hypermist: it seems to want the start sector and end sector and has a cool feature where you can save the list of files for it to recover later reliably if it has to
[09:17] <EriC^^> hypermist: do you have a sudo fdisk -l that you did recently?
[09:17] <hypermist> EriC^^:  :o
[09:17] <EriC^^> i think that could help immensely
[09:17] <hypermist> EriC^^:  what you mean ?
[09:17] <EriC^^> did you pastebin sudo fdisk -l by any chance?
[09:17] <hypermist> nope i didn't
[09:18] <hypermist> do you want me to EriC^^  ?
[09:19] <hypermist> this was just like a fresh install on ubuntu today. like literally 1hr30min ago
[09:19] <hypermist> So i havent used ubuntu since i installed it
[09:20] <uber_hulk> EriC^^: some files/attrs were not transferred (code 23)
[09:21] <uber_hulk> Rsync error that is ^
[09:21] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: did you use sudo with rsync?
[09:21] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: what's the exact command you used?
[09:21] <uber_hulk> Yes i did
[09:21] <bekks> uber_hulk: permissions were not transferred....
[09:21] <EriC^^> ah
[09:21] <EriC^^> yeah ^
[09:21] <bekks> Sameas yesterday. :)
[09:22] <hypermist> EriC^^:  did you want me to pastebin my fdisk -l ?
[09:22] <uber_hulk> Sudo rsync -av pictures/turkey /mnt/usb
[09:22] <EriC^^> hypermist: sure why not
[09:22] <uber_hulk> bekks: yeah
[09:22] <uber_hulk> But this error is different
[09:22] <uber_hulk> Some *files* it says
[09:23] <bekks> uber_hulk: No. It says: "some files/xattrs".
[09:23] <hypermist> http://pastebin.com/gAGcVgY1 EriC^^  i have a usb so yea thats for my livecd. but you can see my other above
[09:23] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: it's odd that it says chown /picture/turkey operation not permitted
[09:23] <cfhowlett> uber_hulk, msdos/fat32 does save file permissions on CP
[09:23] <bekks> cfhowlett: No on vfat.
[09:23] <bekks> cfhowlett: vfat cant store permissions at all.
[09:23] <uber_hulk> 2:50 PM <uber_hulk> EriC^^: some files/attrs were not transferred (code 23)
[09:23] <uber_hulk> So it is also for permission?
[09:23] <cynical> anylaptops ubuntu pre-installed?
[09:23] <uber_hulk> Or i am really loosing sth?
[09:24] <bekks> uber_hulk: permissions are "attr".
[09:24] <cfhowlett> cynical, dozens
[09:24] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: hold on
[09:24] <cynical> ex?
[09:24] <zacwalls> nmz787; I tried to rm -i the file and was successful, but there is another and im not having the same luck with this one
[09:25] <hypermist> EriC^^:  does the fdisk -l help you at all ?
[09:25] <cfhowlett> cynical, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[09:26] <hypermist> 18% done on the deep search EriC^^  lol
[09:26] <zacwalls> rm: remove regular empty file: What does that mean?
[09:26] <venz> why does unity hang when i minimize firefox?
[09:26] <bekks> zacwalls: that you are trying to remove an empty file, which is not a special file.
[09:27] <zacwalls> bekks, How can I get rid of these ppa?
[09:27] <bekks> zacwalls: Which PPA?
[09:27] <bekks> zacwalls: what era you actually trying to do?
[09:27] <zacwalls> nvidia launchpad or something
[09:28] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: src=/pictures/turkey; dst=/mnt/usb; find $src -exec md5sum '{}' >> ~/tmp/md5 \;; sed -i "s@$src@$dst@" ~/tmp/md5; md5sum -c ~/tmp/md5 | grep -i failed
[09:28] <bekks> zacwalls: thats too vage, unfortunately. Whats the actuall issue behind all that?
[09:28] <zacwalls> bekks; remove these ppa's cuz i can no insyall anything
[09:28] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: type that, if you dont get any failed lines then the md5's match and all the data should be there
[09:28] <bekks> zacwalls: why cant you install anything?
[09:29] <uber_hulk> EriC^^: this will check md5?
[09:29] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: yeah
[09:29] <zacwalls> bekks, Because the ppa
[09:29] <zacwalls> bekks, I think
[09:29] <hypermist> EriC^^:  this deep search may take hours..
[09:29] <EriC^^> hypermist: yeah
[09:29] <EriC^^> hypermist: it's odd that it doesn't show up right away
[09:29] <bekks> zacwalls: Thats an assumption only. What happens when you try to install something?
[09:30] <hypermist> what that one you were talking about mabye it will be faster and find it
[09:30] <bekks> zacwalls: And which Ubuntu are you on, exactly?
[09:30] <EriC^^> hypermist: type apt-cache search recover partition
[09:30] <EriC^^> hypermist: it's a list of recovery programs
[09:30] <zacwalls> bekks, Im on unicorn and I get the try apt-get -r install
[09:30] <uber_hulk> EriC^^: cool
[09:31] <hypermist> EriC^^:  ah i see im just gunna try do a quick scan
[09:31] <EriC^^> hypermist: try photorec, sudo photorec
[09:31] <bekks> zacwalls: and whats the entire, full, unchanged output of that command? Put it into a pastebin and provide the URL in here please.
[09:31] <EriC^^> hypermist: i get most of the stuff in deep search, but it comes up in the first few seconds
[09:31] <hypermist> EriC^^:  does that recover files or photos   /
[09:31] <bekks> hypermist: files.
[09:31] <EriC^^> hypermist: i think so
[09:31] <EriC^^> hypermist: both i think
[09:32] <hypermist> i will install that in a sec then
[09:32] <bekks> photos are files, too.
[09:32] <EriC^^> it's already installed, it's installed with testdisk
[09:32] <hypermist> Oh okay
[09:33] <hypermist> EriC^^:  doing it now
[09:34] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: sorry drop the ~ before /tmp/md5
[09:35] <hypermist> uhm EriC^^  it started saving
[09:35] <hypermist> and it filled the usb
[09:35] <hypermist> xD
[09:35] <EriC^^> lol
[09:35] <EriC^^> is that good?
[09:35] <hypermist> no cause it didn't get it all
[09:35] <hypermist> XD
[09:36] <EriC^^> ah i see
[09:36] <EriC^^> i tried it here
[09:36] <EriC^^> you can't browse for the file
[09:36] <hypermist> I noticed
[09:36] <EriC^^> ok, press on file options at the bottom
[09:37] <hypermist> what do you mean and where ?
[09:37] <zacwalls> bekks, pc died. sorry
[09:37] <EriC^^> where you select the partition there's File Opt at the bottom
[09:38] <hypermist> i don't see are you able to get a me screenshot ?
[09:38] <EriC^^> ok
[09:39] <hypermist> unless i may have found it but to be sure i will get an image to confirm
[09:39] <EriC^^> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9864074/
[09:39] <hypermist> ah alright yep im there
[09:40] <EriC^^> ok press on s to disable all files
[09:40] <hypermist> yep done that EriC^^
[09:40] <EriC^^> what's the file type?
[09:41] <hypermist> the file im trying to recover is a .dat
[09:41] <hypermist> im going to need to delete the files that were just stored on the usb EriC^^
[09:41] <EriC^^> ok
[09:42] <hypermist> lol i can't
[09:42] <EriC^^> you need sudo
[09:42] <EriC^^> :P
[09:42] <hypermist> so i would just to sudo rm recup*
[09:42] <hypermist> is that correct ?
[09:42] <EriC^^> rm if it's all in one dir yeah
[09:42] <EriC^^> are those dirs or files?
[09:43] <EriC^^> rm -r if they are dirs
[09:43] <hypermist> boom
[09:43] <hypermist> :D
[09:43] <EriC^^> ok :D
[09:43] <hypermist> so im guessing i scroll down the list to dat
[09:43] <hypermist> ?
[09:43] <EriC^^> yeah select dat
[09:43] <hypermist> how lol ?
[09:44] <hypermist> pressingenter ?
[09:44] <hypermist> pressing enter *
[09:44] <EriC^^> use the right arrow
[09:44] <hh> hhhhh
[09:44] <hypermist> done that EriC^^  now
[09:44] <hypermist> what next lol ?
[09:46] <EriC^^> press on search
[09:46] <hypermist> so go back
[09:46] <hypermist> and then hit search ?
[09:46] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:46] <EriC^^> i dont think it's going to work though
[09:46]  * hypermist hope this works
[09:46] <hypermist> i will know if it works
[09:47] <EriC^^> i just tried creating a file bla.dat and tried to recover it from a fat partition
[09:47] <EriC^^> i think it looks at the header of the file not the extension
[09:47] <EriC^^> hypermist: what kind of file is it?
[09:47] <hypermist> its a wallet.dat file
[09:48] <EriC^^> ill try with a .7z
[09:48] <bekks> The good old bitcoin wallet? :)
[09:48] <hypermist> bekks:  an altcoin
[09:48] <hypermist> i have 0.05btc worth of it :|
[09:49] <hypermist> Estimated time to completion 2h
[09:49] <hypermist> oh.
[09:50]  * hypermist has no life anyway
[09:50] <bekks> Hmm, thats about 10€. Spent 4 hours for recovering, thats 2.50€/h :)
[09:50] <hypermist> which its like 20NZD
[09:51] <hypermist> I need it D;
[09:51] <EriC^^> hypermist: it looks at the file header
[09:51] <EriC^^> i just put a mp3 and deleted the extension
[09:51] <EriC^^> it found it, didn't find the .dat file though
[09:51] <hypermist> D:
[09:51] <hypermist> thats not good
[09:51] <EriC^^> it think .dat is a IE archive file or something
[09:51] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:51] <EriC^^> odd that you can't browse the files yourself..
[09:52] <hypermist> if only
[09:52] <EriC^^> there are other file recovery programs though
[09:52] <hypermist> the scrouage-ntfs you said
[09:54] <EriC^^> hypermist: hey,
[09:54] <hypermist> Yello ?
[09:54] <EriC^^> scroll down to the bottom, there's text files
[09:54] <EriC^^> i think it's just any random text file
[09:54] <hypermist> where ?
[09:55] <EriC^^> at the bottom below tx?
[09:55] <hypermist> tx ?
[09:55] <hypermist> Lol
[09:55] <EriC^^> other text files
[09:55] <hypermist> is that in the file options ?
[09:55] <uber_hulk> EriC^^: that commands not working
[09:55] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: what do you mean?
[09:55] <hypermist> uber_hulk:  did you remove the ~ ?
[09:56] <uber_hulk> No i haven't removed ~
[09:56] <uber_hulk> Think missed that
[09:56] <hypermist> Scroll up a little
[09:56] <finishingmove> I'm moving my encrypted home dir to a new computer where it will not be encrypted. Is copying via an USB flash drive going to do the trick, or is there something to be aware of?
[09:56] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: remove the ~ before /tmp/md5
[09:56] <uber_hulk> Only that one?
[09:57] <uber_hulk> And keep the other ~?
[09:57] <hypermist> thats alot of text files EriC^^  lol
[09:57] <hypermist> 60k+ and counting
[09:57] <EriC^^> unnamed i guess?
[09:58] <EriC^^> yikes
[09:58] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: yes in all the /tmp/md5
[09:58] <hypermist> 87k and still going
[09:58] <hypermist> LOl
[09:58] <EriC^^> hypermist: do you have another .dat
[09:58] <megaloden> hello guys
[09:58] <uber_hulk> EriC^^: can you please paste again?
[09:58] <megaloden> i want a linux system admin job
[09:58] <EriC^^> there's the custom signature option
[09:58] <megaloden> where do i start
[09:59] <hypermist> EriC^^:  i do have backsups of that dat. but it was on that hdd
[09:59] <uber_hulk> I am getting md5sumturkey: no such file or directry
[09:59] <uber_hulk> EriC^^:
[10:00] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: something's wrong with the command
[10:00] <EriC^^> paste exactly what you used
[10:00] <hypermist> 107k .txt files
[10:00] <hypermist> and still going
[10:00] <hypermist> hmm thats alot of text files
[10:00] <EriC^^> hypermist: i think it has an option to use any file's header
[10:00] <hypermist> EriC^^:  its mostly found .txt and .js files lel
[10:01] <EriC^^> hypermist: hey, there's a wallet bitcoin option
[10:01] <hypermist> etc
[10:01] <uber_hulk> src=/pictures/turkey; dst=/mnt/usb; find $src -exec md5sum '{}' >> ~/tmp/md5 \;; sed -i "s@$src@$dst@" ~/tmp/md5; md5sum -c ~/tmp/md5 | grep -i failed
[10:01] <hypermist> there is EriC^^  ?
[10:01] <uber_hulk> With ~ removed
[10:01] <EriC^^> but it says the extension is wallet ?
[10:01] <hypermist> mabye it is
[10:01] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: paste the one you're using
[10:01] <Nytram> megaloden It helps to have a recognised qualification in Linux from one of the big boys like Ubuntu, Suse, Redhat etc, or go for LPI https://www.lpi.org/
[10:02] <uber_hulk> src=/pictures/turkey; dst=/mnt/usb; find $src -exec md5sum '{}' >> /tmp/md5 \;; sed -i "s@$src@$dst@" /tmp/md5; md5sum -c /tmp/md5 | grep -i failed
[10:02] <hypermist> i will try it with the. wallet thing EriC^^
[10:02] <EriC^^> uber_hulk: ok, use > instead of >>
[10:03] <EriC^^> hypermist: ok
[10:03] <hypermist> lets see if it finds anything
[10:03] <uber_hulk> Ok
[10:04] <hypermist> i removed all the other extensions EriC^^
[10:04] <hypermist> so its just scanning for the wallet
[10:04] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[10:05] <hypermist> Well i guess afk EriC^^  lol
[10:05] <EriC^^> hehe
[10:07] <hypermist> i have 2hrs of my life to waste so why not EriC^^  :D
[10:10] <deestew> anyone got a fix for kodi? start up crash issues
[10:12] <hypermist> Nothing yet EriC^^
[10:13] <EriC^^> hypermist: this is really cool http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Add_your_own_extension_to_PhotoRec
[10:14] <EriC^^> hypermist: if you can make another bitcoin file you might be able to use it's header to search for the other
[10:14] <hypermist> i would need to download and install the wallet EriC^^
[10:14] <hypermist> which i can do
[10:14] <EriC^^> hypermist: any random bitcoin .dat will do, you just need them to have consistent headers
[10:18] <hypermist> i downloaded one EriC^^
[10:18] <hypermist> should i restart search EriC^^  ?
[10:21] <hypermist> EriC^^:  guess what
[10:21] <hypermist> i did the command to see if it was identified
[10:22] <hypermist> it reported unknown so its not looking ofr it EriC^^
[10:22] <EriC^^> ok cool
[10:22] <EriC^^> sorry im back
[10:23] <EriC^^> do the hexdump -C
[10:27] <hypermist> done that EriC^^
[10:27] <EriC^^> cool
[10:27] <hypermist> now waht
[10:27] <hypermist> xD
[10:27] <EriC^^> what's the header like?
[10:29] <hypermist> want me to pastebin EriC^^  ?
[10:30] <EriC^^> ok
[10:30] <EriC^^> sure
[10:30] <hypermist> http://pastebin.com/PCu4erZi
[10:31] <luciano__> list
[10:36] <hypermist> Using a text editor (ie. notepad, vim...), create the signature file and add the signature you have identified.  EriC^^
[10:36] <hypermist> what does that mean
[10:36] <hypermist> add the signature you have identified
[10:36] <hypermist> does that mean my hex ?
[10:37] <kubanc> Jov, a se kdo tuki spozna na openVPN, oziroma se je že kdaj povezoval na to preko Ubuntu?
[10:37] <hypermist> wait NVM EriC^^
[10:38] <hypermist> idk what to do EriC^^
[10:38] <EriC^^> hypermist: i found this https://blog.cyplo.net/2012/04/01/bitcoin-wallet-recovery-photorec/
[10:38] <hypermist> :|
[10:39] <Lockzi> Hello, I am trying to get an X11 grabber working as a service. The upstart script looks like this: http://pastebin.com/raw?i=7U00ZX5b
[10:40] <Lockzi> I have come to the realization that root does not have knowledge/access about the X11 session running (no environment variables set), so I added export DISPLAY=:0:0, which should then in turn use unix socket to the X11 session. But that is not working either. There is no specific need for me to be running this as root, I could just as well run it as my default user. How would I do that instead so that it inherits the profile/environment of 
[10:40] <Lockzi> default user?
[10:41] <hypermist> i would need the coin im looking for wallet.dat EriC^^
[10:42] <hypermist> EriC^^:
[10:42] <hypermist> how do i change a files permissions
[10:44] <Nytram> hypermist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod
[10:44] <hypermist> Not very much i just did that lel
[10:44] <Naoto> can't write dvds and cds all of a sudden need help
[10:45] <hypermist> Just before you posted i found the wiki for the file Nytram  :D
[10:45] <Nytram> Naoto you need to post any error messages and be a little more descriptive in what is/is not happening
[10:46] <Naoto> is shown as block device and K3b shows error message by start, no device found
[10:46] <pengyq> 你好
[10:46] <Naoto> and in brasero I can only choose to create an image
[10:47] <Nytram> Your DvD writer is not mounted?
[10:47] <cfhowlett> !cn | pengyq
[10:47] <Nytram> Can you accesws a dvd through dolphin etc?
[10:48] <EriC^^> hypermist: i'm trying that guide out
[10:48] <Nytram> *access
[10:48] <EriC^^> hypermist: trying to convert the bitcoin header you sent to a file
[10:48] <Naoto> wenn I start Laufwerke (name in German) the DVD device is shown as Block device and not as CD/DVD device
[10:49] <Naoto> I can access the dvd via Nautilus
[10:50] <Naoto> but not use the burning programms they don't find the device
[10:50] <bekks> Naoto: Are you sure you have burning device, and not just a reader?
[10:51] <Naoto> yes of cause, I burned cds and dvds a few days ago
[10:51] <EriC^^> hypermist: ah ok they're basically doing the same, but they want you to add the list of file
[10:51] <EriC^^> hypermist: did you know what to do?
[10:51] <EriC^^> ( the list that the command file uses )
[10:51] <hypermist> EriC^^:  uhm. i need to uhm find out how to find hidden dir's
[10:51] <Nytram> Go to K3b Settings/configure k3b/devices and see what it says there.
[10:51] <bekks> hypermist: ls -la :)
[10:51] <EriC^^> this is the header we found using hexdump -C , dat 0x0 0x62310500
[10:51] <hypermist> bekks:  i need to access it myself
[10:51] <EriC^^> it's the same you gave in the pastebin
[10:52] <bekks> hypermist: And?
[10:52] <hypermist> EriC^^:  it wont be cause it will be a neoscoin
[10:52] <zacwalls> bekks, How can I delete the ppa repo
[10:52] <EriC^^> hypermist: that's for all coins i think
[10:52] <EriC^^> hypermist: it's from the list on that webpage, and it's in your hexdump too
[10:52] <Naoto> It says writer device none ...read-only device none
[10:53] <Nytram> But you can read dvd's with nautilus?
[10:53] <hypermist> yea that wallet .dat is very different for this coin EriC^^
[10:53] <hypermist> LOL
[10:53] <Naoto> and the start dialog is: No optical drive found.
[10:53] <Naoto> K3b did not find any optical device in your system
[10:53] <EriC^^> hypermist: it's the same
[10:53] <hypermist> EriC^^:  oh it is.
[10:53] <hypermist> my god i forgot to add | head
[10:53] <hypermist> so it spammed me out lol!
[10:54] <Naoto> yes when I enter a dvd it shows up in nautilus like a harddrive partition and I can copy files from the cd/dvd to my harddrive
[10:55] <zacwalls> How can I open a file in terminal?
[10:55] <jatt> vi
[10:56] <hypermist> can you give me your .photorec.sig file EriC^^  cause idk how to do D:
[10:56] <Nytram> Naoto what does this return in a terminal? wodim --devices
[10:57] <EriC^^> hypermist: type nano ~/.photorec.sig
[10:57] <Nytram> Sorry I'm slow... trying to cook at the same time
[10:57] <hypermist> EriC^^:  yep done that
[10:57] <EriC^^> then paste all the dat 0x 0x ... stuff
[10:57] <EriC^^> the whole list
[10:57] <Naoto> mithos@mithos-desktop:~$ wodim --devices
[10:57] <Naoto> wodim: No such file or directory.
[10:57] <Naoto> Cannot open SCSI driver!
[10:57] <Naoto> For possible targets try 'wodim --devices' or 'wodim -scanbus'.
[10:57] <Naoto> For possible transport specifiers try 'wodim dev=help'.
[10:57] <Naoto> For IDE/ATAPI devices configuration, see the file README.ATAPI.setup from
[10:58] <hypermist> 00002000  00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00  01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  these EriC^^  ?
[10:58] <EriC^^> !paste | Naoto
[10:58] <EriC^^> hypermist: no, the ones like dat 0x0 0x62310500
[10:58] <EriC^^> from that webpage
[10:58] <hypermist> i do see any of that
[10:58] <hypermist> oh
[10:58] <hypermist> xD
[10:58] <hypermist> i was like waht
[11:00] <Nytram> Naoto I have to get back to the kitchen, but have a look at this forum page, it may help. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=363666
[11:00] <hypermist> alright it worked EriC^^
[11:00] <Naoto> thx I'll try that
[11:00] <hypermist> now time to start scan again EriC^^
[11:00] <EriC^^> hypermist: fidentify ?
[11:00] <hypermist> yep EriC^^  it worked
[11:01] <EriC^^> hypermist: ok, cool
[11:01] <EriC^^> :D
[11:01] <Nytram> That'll only confirm that you can use uit via the commabnd line.
[11:01] <hypermist> 2 headers found EriC^^
[11:01] <EriC^^> nice
[11:01] <Nytram> Got to go. Have fun all.
[11:01] <hypermist> no files yet but 2 headers
[11:02] <EriC^^> i think it means it found 2 files
[11:02] <hypermist> 6/10 headers
[11:02] <EriC^^> hypermist: open your home dir in another terminal
[11:02] <EriC^^> and check it out
[11:03] <CtrlC> Hi guys, I can't get any sounds in Ubuntu. I'm using Gnome version 3.10.4
[11:03] <sivaraj> hii..
[11:04] <hypermist> it doesn't look like there is anything new EriC^^
[11:04] <EriC^^> maybe it writes them when it's done
[11:04] <CtrlC> Any suggestion?
[11:04] <sivaraj> please help me to install wine 1.7.3 tar.tz2 in ubuntu 14.04
[11:04] <hypermist> EriC^^:  2hr26mins to go then
[11:04] <EriC^^> hypermist: try pressing q
[11:04] <EriC^^> to see if it writes anything
[11:04] <EriC^^> its worth it
[11:04] <hypermist> nothing wrote
[11:05] <EriC^^> ok
[11:05] <hypermist> its now finding files EriC^^
[11:05] <EriC^^> cool
[11:05] <Naoto> It didn'work I already have the latest Version of dvd+rw tools
[11:06] <hypermist> I will just listen to music
[11:06] <hypermist> tto pass time
[11:06] <sivaraj> please help me to install ,downloaded wine 1.7.3 tar.tz2 in ubuntu 14.04
[11:07] <Naoto> and when I open  "less /etc/fstab" there is no such line about sr0 or dev/cd... only the harddrive partitions ara shown
[11:07] <CtrlC> sivaraj: It has a readme file in it.
[11:07] <hypermist> lets hope it finds it EriC^^
[11:07] <hypermist> if it does there im 20$ richer
[11:07] <hypermist> again :D
[11:07] <jatt> sivaraj: why not install it from the archives?
[11:07] <CtrlC> sivaraj: Anyway it is better to use repoes for install this things.
[11:08] <sivaraj> i want to study his type pf installation
[11:08] <sivaraj> i need ur help..
[11:08] <Naoto> is there nobody who can help?
[11:09] <CtrlC> sivaraj: Just read it's manual. All we can do is to just tell you what is in that manual. So save yourself some time.;)
[11:09] <jatt> brings nothing just headaches if the packages is already available in the archives
[11:10] <Naoto> K3b error no device found. can't use my dvd writer
[11:10] <Naoto> still can access dvds via nautilus
[11:12] <Naoto> please help!
[11:13] <Tzunamii> Naoto: If you don't get any hits here you should post your issue on the forums
[11:13] <uber_hulk> EriC^^: you there?
[11:13] <uber_hulk> If that command doesn't show any output that mens everythjng is fine?
[11:13] <ThumbtackJake> Anyone know how to update virtual box? I'm on Kubuntu 14.04. It's version 4.3.10, but I need to upgrade to 4.3.20 so I can install the latest extension files
[11:13] <Naoto> I posted in ubuntuusers.de but get no answer since yesterday :/
[11:14] <sivaraj> what is this "You need to have the X11 development include files installed"
[11:14] <Tzunamii> Naoto: if you want to maximize your chances you should post it on a English speaking forum, mate
[11:14] <Naoto> tzunamii thank you, where should I try?
[11:15] <Tzunamii> Naoto: http://ubuntuforums.org/ is a good bet.
[11:15] <Naoto> Tzunamii thank you I will try
[11:15] <Tzunamii> Any time
[11:17] <MrN00Bs> nrdb, Is there any restriction of internet in AU ?
[11:18] <ThumbtackJake> 'sudo apt-get install virtualbox-4.3' tells me the package is not available, but is refrred to by another package'. The heck does that mean?
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> ThumbtackJake: you can use apt-cache search virtualbox for the right package
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> !find virtualbox
[11:20] <hypermist> this is gunna be the longest wait ever EriC^^  lol
[11:20] <nrdb> MrN00Bs, not really but to get high speed > adsl2 is a real pain.
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> hypermist: whats the issue mate
[11:21] <hypermist> lotuspsychje:  oh just trying to recover my bitcoin wallet since i overwrote it with linux lol
[11:21] <hypermist> XD
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> hypermist: did you try recover data with photorec?
[11:21] <hypermist> yea thats what im doing now
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> cool
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> hypermist: can take a while with large drives indeed
[11:22] <hypermist> est time for completion 2hrs45min
[11:22] <hypermist> and its a 1tb hdd
[11:22] <MrN00Bs> nrdb, ok thanks for information
[11:22] <hypermist> xD
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> hypermist: that explains it :p
[11:22] <Jensit> heyho
[11:22] <hypermist> my brain didn't think till i did it
[11:22] <hypermist> xD
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> hypermist: the good news is, if photorec can't find it data is gone :p
[11:23] <hypermist> lotuspsychje:  its not good that  was 20$+ worth of coin
[11:23] <hypermist> it should be there.
[11:24] <hypermist> i didn't use it after i installed it
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> hypermist: i mean that photorec should find it in most cases
[11:24] <hypermist> yea i just had to add it myself lotuspsychje
[11:24] <nrdb> MrN00Bs, why are you interested?
[11:24] <hypermist> cause wallet.dat arent detected by default
[11:24] <hypermist> so. yea i had to do some stuff to make it detect
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> hypermist: i think photorec will name it file00354.dat or something
[11:25] <DarthEaron2> does anyone know were i can ask wifi related questions?
[11:25] <Jensit> here
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> hypermist: browse into your recovered folder
[11:25] <hypermist> lotuspsychje:  nah if i did the fidentify wallet.dat it would say unkown :D
[11:25] <MrN00Bs> nrdb, Spying purposes, sorry can't tell, its classified
[11:25] <hypermist> so i had to make a .photorec.sig file :D and now it detected it was a .dat
[11:25] <Jensit> maybe we can help you DarthEaron2
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> hypermist: normally it will find all data, even when you didnt specified the extension
[11:25] <hypermist> lotuspsychje:  i did that the thing
[11:26] <hypermist> but it wouldn't detect it by default
[11:26] <hypermist> so :D
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> ok good
[11:27] <`hypermist`> don't mind me just changing my nick ;D
[11:27] <`hypermist`> by the time this is finished im going to re-try my gpu since i was having issues
[11:28] <DarthEaron2> Jensit: okay, i live in a dorm area and we use an unencrypted wireless network to get everyone online. the problem is that every single router uses the same exact ESSID (lets say Free_Wifi) when i run airodump i can see multiple free_wifi under sever different macs. How can i tell my computer which mac to perfer? it keeps bouncing between multiple access points and cant keep a cnonection going
[11:28] <`hypermist`> and the thing is. its gunna be hard to do xD
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> !info macchanger | DarthEaron2
[11:29] <DarthEaron2> lol oh ubottu, your so smart!!!
[11:29] <Jensit> damn that bot is smart :D
[11:29] <DarthEaron2> "only available for linux-any" lol
[11:30] <EriC^> DarthEaron2: what do you mean by tell your computer which access point?
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> DarthEaron2: you can ask more info to the ##networking guys also howto simplifie your issue
[11:31] <theadmin> EriC^: Multiple access point sharing the same SSID are problematic, it keeps bouncing between different points
[11:31] <theadmin> I think Windows has the same issue, dunno though
[11:31] <EriC^> they all have no password?
[11:31] <DarthEaron2> EriC^: well i want to tell my computer which reouter mac to use (whichever has best signal)
[11:32] <Jensit> EriC^: they can all emit the same network
[11:32] <EriC^> ok
[11:32] <EriC^> DarthEaron2: go to network manager's edit connection
[11:33] <uber_hulk>   EriC^ if everything is okay it will show no output?
[11:33] <EriC^> click on the connection, click edit, then under bssid you should be able to select the access point's mac
[11:33] <`hypermist`> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=000al7ru3ms bitcoin and all these days even doge EriC^  ;D
[11:33] <EriC^> uber_hulk: yes
[11:34] <uber_hulk> Great
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> `hypermist`: you can use the #bitcoin channel also if you like
[11:35] <`hypermist`> lotuspsychje:  i know :P
[11:36] <EriC^> `hypermist`: lol
[11:36] <EriC^> cool dog
[11:37] <`hypermist`> EriC^:  :D its dogecoin :3
[11:40] <`hypermist`> 2hr12min to go
[11:40] <`hypermist`> still only 11files
[11:43] <clausen> what is the "correct" way to edit files in /etc, so that changes don't get deleted on upgrades, etc.?
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> clausen: wich file you trying to edit exactly?
[11:44] <clausen> lotuspsychje, lots of them: /etc/apparmor.d/* /etc/udev/* and many others
[11:44] <zacwalls> How can i add a new user to sudoers list
[11:45] <Ben64> zacwalls: add said user to the "sudo" group
[11:45] <`hypermist`> EriC^:  i hopefully if i recover it. i wont do that again Lol
[11:45] <szx> anybody knows how to fix the not a valid com32r image error?
[11:45] <zacwalls> ben64; Yes, how?
[11:45] <szx> when booting from a live usb
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> !apparmor | clausen maybe some info here
[11:45] <Ben64> zacwalls: sudo adduser <username> sudo
[11:46] <zacwalls> ok
[11:46] <arcsky> anyone know a working howto to tightvnc server on ubuntu?
[11:46] <clausen> lotuspsychje, I guess I was asking a more general question: since I routinely edit many files inside /etc (and elsewhere, e.g. /usr/share/initramfs/*)...
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> `hypermist`: photorec will be your best bet
[11:46] <`hypermist`> lotuspsychje:  i know
[11:46] <clausen> lotuspsychje, ... is there a general rule about what will and won't get deleted?
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> arcsky: tightvnc isnt reccomended to use for security issues
[11:46] <clausen> lotuspsychje, e.g. if I create a new file, that is safe, but if I edit a packaged file, then that is dangerous?
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | arcsky
[11:47] <paradisebunny> i accidentally deleted my printer, and now when i add it again it doesnt work any more. already tried adding it via CUPS interface, but still no success. worked like a charm before
[11:47] <clausen> lotuspsychje, I suppose this is a Debian policy question
[11:47] <arcsky> lotuspsychje: its just local on my home network
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> arcsky: is your local network connected to internet also?
[11:48] <arcsky> lotuspsychje: yes
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> arcsky: then its still a danger to use
[11:48] <arcsky> not if i dont have he port open for my WAN connection
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> arcsky: just be carefull with remote software
[11:49] <arcsky> on private addresses, you drunked?
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> arcsky: try ssh instead for more secure working
[11:49] <arcsky> its local machiens 10.10.10.0/24 network
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> arcsky: you can do what you like mate, im just informing
[11:50] <arcsky> nothing new for me
[11:50] <clausen> arcsky, if someone hijacks your web browser, they could break out of the javascript jail by using this service?
[11:51] <EriC^> `hypermist`: haha yeah
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> clausen: whats your endgoal exactly with the editing /etc etc
[11:51] <clausen> lotuspsychje, I make pretty drastic changes to ubuntu for security reasons
[11:52] <`hypermist`> EriC^:  this is why you should really think before you do things :|
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> !security > clausen think there's an aparmor link there also
[11:53] <clausen> lotuspsychje, I want to make sure that my security "enhancements" don't get deleted by Ubuntu updates
[11:53] <clausen> lotuspsychje, this isn't just about security updates -- any kind of update could potentially undo my work
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> clausen: well i think that depends what exactly your editing
[11:53] <DocPlatypus> ok. weird situation I have here with Banshee. one album in particular, if I try to add it, it completely mucks up the play queue. that actual album is added in the wrong order, and then albums added after it go in the wrong order, and the place in the play queue gets mixed up as well
[11:54] <DocPlatypus> the only thing slightly unusual about my setup now is I have .config/banshee-1 linked to an external drive with my music so I can play it on both laptop and desktop and share the same database. but this situation happened on the laptop, just now, without having been switched to/from the desktop recently.
[11:54] <clausen> lotuspsychje, so there is no general rule?  I was hoping this would be a general rule: *new* files that I create are never deleted
[11:54] <DocPlatypus> (guessing there's probably a Banshee channel somewhere that I don't know about that someone will refer me to)
[11:55] <clausen> lotuspsychje, the only changes that can be destroyed are ones in files that were installed in the system
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> clausen: try to pastebin us a specific changement in a dir, to show us an example
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> clausen: maybe someone will understand where you going to this way
[11:56] <clausen> lotuspsychje, ok
[11:56] <clausen> :q
[11:56] <wdonkey> morning people of the sun !!!!!
[11:56] <wdonkey> i just plugged in an old hdd and i cant access to one of its partition, says access denied
[11:56] <wdonkey> how can i work arround this ?
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> wdonkey: try gksudo gparted
[11:57] <EriC^> `hypermist`: happens to us all
[11:57] <EriC^> ;)
[11:57] <`hypermist`> *suuure :P *
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> !alis > DocPlatypus
[11:58] <clausen> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.com/tqpytTTB is an example
[11:59] <clausen> lotuspsychje, this script makes sure that update-initramfs will copy the udev rules from /etc/udev/rules.d/* onto the initramfs image during boot time
[11:59] <clausen> lotuspsychje, I want to make sure that this script will not be disabled when I update, say, initramfs-tools, or the kernel
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> clausen: and you want to know if ubuntu updates will wipe this?
[11:59] <clausen> lotuspsychje, exactly
[12:00] <wdonkey> lotuspsychje, the partition doesnt seem to be broken or anything, how can i suppress the access requirement in gparted?
[12:01] <`hypermist`> EriC^:  will it be named something weird or wallet.dat ?
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> clausen: maybe this can help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/297412/how-do-i-make-udev-rules-work
[12:03] <wdonkey> got it lotuspsychje
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> `hypermist`: i think it will create a file4532.dat
[12:03] <wdonkey> thanks
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> wdonkey: no sweat mate
[12:03] <`hypermist`> okay lotuspsychje
[12:03] <EriC^> `hypermist`: something random i guess
[12:03] <Guest57661> i am setting up ubuntu maas in vitual environment using ubuntu maas but i keep getting stuck at node enlistment process ; it says IP-Config: no response after 60 secs - giving up
[12:03] <wdonkey> im still sleeping this morning
[12:03] <Guest57661> plz help
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> !maas | Guest57661
[12:04] <`hypermist`> est left EriC^  1hr44m
[12:04] <`hypermist`> :|
[12:04] <Guest57661> ubottu: actually i am trying openstack setup using maas and juju
[12:05] <clausen> lotuspsychje, no, that link is just how to use udev, not how to install udev rules inside initramfs
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> clausen: ok, then im out of ideas mate :p
[12:05] <clausen> lotuspsychje, anyway, my question is more general -- an answer that only solves my udev/initramfs problems isn't very helpful
[12:05] <clausen> lotuspsychje, I'm asking a *policy* question: what rules do debian packages respect?
[12:05] <DocPlatypus> lotuspsychje: searched for *banshee* and no joy
[12:06] <clausen> lotuspsychje, perhaps I should be reading the debian package maintainer policy manuals?
[12:06] <Guest57661> ubottu: i have tried maas before in kvm it worked well, but now i need to do it in virtualbox any suggestions ; where i may be goin wrong
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> DocPlatypus: yeah, dindt find any banshee channel myself, did you try vlc player?
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> clausen: maybe the #ubuntu-devel guys are more expert in this?
[12:06] <clausen> lotuspsychje, good suggestion, thanks
[12:06] <DocPlatypus> lotuspsychje: VLC player isn't really useful for what I'm doing
[12:07] <Guest57661> help with node enlistment in virtualbox : IP-Config: no response after 60 secs - giving up is the error i get after pxe booting up
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> cofeetime here :p
[12:12] <theone1> people, i keep using transmission bittorrent and it keeps pausing the torrents or not downloading, what is going on? what can be the issue? i have enough space in my HDD and my internet is pritty fast and i there are enough seeders
[12:12] <david_> theone1: get vuze theone1
[12:13] <DocPlatypus> are there that many Banshee users left on Ubuntu now that the default appears to have once again gone back to Rhythmbox?
[12:13] <david_> sudo apt-get install vuze
[12:13] <EriC^> `hypermist`: kind of odd that testdisk couldn't find any ntfs partitions
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> DocPlatypus: default doesn’t mean a great deal
[12:13] <`hypermist`> vuze #besttorrentclient
[12:13] <EriC^> `hypermist`: photorec and testdisk are made by the same company
[12:13] <`hypermist`> EriC^:  lol mabye its fully gone :|
[12:13] <DocPlatypus> I can't stand Vuze, then again I have had zero issues with Transmission
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> #thereisnobest
[12:14] <`hypermist`> #potatoes ActionParsnip  :P
[12:14] <DocPlatypus> other than things that are clearly my own damn fault
[12:14] <EriC^> `hypermist`: are you choosing ntfs fat etc. in photorec?
[12:14] <theone1> thanks guys, will try vuze
[12:14] <binaryanomaly> Can someone explain me why I'm having two sizes of cursors with unity on a macbook pro. In unity itself the cursor is tiny, in applications such as firefox the cursor has a normal size. Why's that, how can I fix it?
[12:14] <EriC^> `hypermist`: cause it did recover files
[12:14] <`hypermist`> I don't even know EriC^  i think im choosing ext4,etc
[12:14] <EriC^> `hypermist`: ?
[12:14] <EriC^> no
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> `hypermist`: why don't you use your backups?
[12:14] <EriC^> *nooo
[12:14] <`hypermist`> ActionParsnip:  what backups
[12:14] <`hypermist`> xD
[12:14] <EriC^> `hypermist`: you have to choose ntfs fat etc. for windows partitions
[12:14] <`hypermist`> that was the first mistake
[12:15] <`hypermist`> one sec EriC^
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> `hypermist`: ok why don't you have backups? If the drive IDE or motor fails, where is your data?
[12:15] <`hypermist`> ActionParsnip: i was upgrading from windows to linux
[12:15] <DocPlatypus> I made a ridiculous number of backups on the upgrades/installs I did recently... I backed up stuff I probably will never need
[12:15] <`hypermist`> and after i did the isntall i realised ActionParsnip
[12:15] <DocPlatypus> including the entirety of my OpenBSD install
[12:16] <`hypermist`> EriC^:  i chose ex2/ex3
[12:16] <`hypermist`> ext3 *
[12:16] <`hypermist`> Mabye i should choose other
[12:16] <`hypermist`> cause that says NTFS
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> `hypermist`: you should still have backups. Especially before making such a massive change to the system
[12:16] <EriC^> DocPlatypus: i have my stuff backed up on an ext hdd i wrote a little script to check if it's mounted and back stuff up
[12:16] <david_> do yall like artistx distro?
[12:16] <`hypermist`> ActionParsnip:  I have nothing to backup to :|
[12:16] <EriC^> ( after i inadvertently erased my home dir a couple times )
[12:16] <EriC^> lol
[12:16]  * `hypermist` stops recovery
[12:16] <EriC^> as they say, there are those who have backups, and those who will.
[12:16] <`hypermist`> life is getting thinner
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> `hypermist`: what spec is the system?
[12:16] <DocPlatypus> EriC^: I had an incident on my new-to-me laptop where the system install ate it but /home was okay
[12:17] <`hypermist`> ActionParsnip: 8gb ram amd fx-4100 quadcore
[12:17] <DocPlatypus> even though I knew to be careful enough to not reformat /home, I backed it up anyway
[12:17] <`hypermist`> and a 1tb hdd
[12:17] <EriC^> of course i back everything up anyways, but i wasn't in the habit of backing up /home using linux
[12:18] <EriC^> DocPlatypus: that's lucky
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> `hypermist`: so you have a system far and away more expensive than my 1.6Ghz with 2Gb RAM but you are seriously trying to tell me you can't afford 40 quid for a 1Tb usb drive...?
[12:18] <`hypermist`> a 1tb hdd is like 100$+
[12:18] <DocPlatypus> EriC^: yeah given the way it happened I was sure that /home went tits up too
[12:18] <`hypermist`> :|
[12:18] <DocPlatypus> but, everything was still there
[12:18] <`hypermist`> Plus i have no job :3
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> `hypermist`: is your data worth $100 to you?
[12:18] <`hypermist`> ActionParsnip:  if i had a job i would have 9 1tb hdd's :|
[12:18] <`hypermist`> Cause i have an hdd bay on my case
[12:19] <`hypermist`> that is also fan cooled
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> `hypermist`: but if you could give someone  $100 and all your data would be fully recovered,  would you do it?
[12:19] <`hypermist`> No i wouldn't cause i wouldn't have 100$
[12:19] <`hypermist`> :|
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> `hypermist`: but you have quite a decent PC... how did you afford that then.
[12:20] <DocPlatypus> `hypermist`: I ran up my balance on Fingerhut to be sure I had plenty of room on external HDDs... I'd go for a regular credit card first as long as you can make minimum payments, so you can get a decent deal at, say, Target or Best Buy
[12:20] <DocPlatypus> ActionParsnip: poo-poo happens. maybe he had a job for a while and got the PC then, job took a whiz and PC didn't
[12:20] <`hypermist`> DocPlatypus:  im 15 :D
[12:20] <DocPlatypus> `hypermist`: oh... sigh
[12:21] <`hypermist`> my brother gave me pocket money
[12:21] <`hypermist`> thats how i afforded it
[12:21] <DocPlatypus> ah so
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> `hypermist`: I don't have oodles of cash (hence the POS system) but my data is valuable so I take steps to ensure it is safe. I suggest you do similar then you wouldn't be attempting data recovery
[12:21] <`hypermist`> I've had 2 WD harddrives die on me
[12:21] <`hypermist`> My last hdd is a WD
[12:21] <`hypermist`> So if this dies im just gunna be like :(
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> People love to learn the hard way
[12:22] <`hypermist`> EriC^:  oh btw i change to the Other. mode
[12:22] <`hypermist`> ActionParsnip: I've had it happen before
[12:22] <theone1> i just used vizu, i keep getting that my file is too large, i do understand, i dowloaded larger files before and i have a 2TB HDD, what should i do?
[12:22] <EriC^> `hypermist`: ok
[12:22] <`hypermist`> ActionParsnip:  but i have no way of income
[12:22] <`hypermist`> but i think my file system is ext4 EriC^
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> `hypermist`: so you can't wash cars for a few bucks... no, no way at all.
[12:23] <`hypermist`> ActionParsnip:  you would get attacked. and most likely arrested :D
[12:23] <EriC^> `hypermist`: if it was on the windows partition it should be ntfs or fat etc.
[12:23] <EriC^> `hypermist`: did the partition have a windows installation?
[12:24] <`hypermist`> yes
[12:24] <`hypermist`> what was the fdisk command again ?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> `hypermist`: it's an example. You can do lots to earn cash dude. Just your 'can't do' attitude is holding you back
[12:24] <theone1> ah, dowloading torrents in ubuntu is very complicated :-(
[12:24] <`hypermist`> ActionParsnip:  i have attempted to apply for jobs
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> theone1: how? Just open the torrent file with transmission
[12:25] <`hypermist`> EriC^:  what the fdisk cmd
[12:25] <EriC^> `hypermist`: the partition is gone i think so it wont show up
[12:25] <EriC^> `hypermist`: sudo fdisk -l
[12:25] <EriC^> `hypermist`: testdisk should be able to find it maybe
[12:25] <theone1> ActionParsnip: transmission keeps pausing the downloads, i don't know why, and vizu says my files are too large
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> theone1: transmission is part of a default install. Windows users have to manually install a client  making it harder than in Ubuntu
[12:26] <`hypermist`> EriC^:  back to that then
[12:26] <`hypermist`> lel
[12:26] <EriC^> `hypermist`: try something
[12:26] <EriC^> `hypermist`: try to search for random txt in photorec, using ntfs fat etc.
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> theone1: what file system are you using to store your torrent files? Does it have free space?
[12:26] <EriC^> if stuff shows up then it's seeing your partition
[12:27] <theone1> ActionParsnip: i just formatted a 2TB external HDD with ext4
[12:27] <`hypermist`> or just change it to search for .txt and see if it finds any ?
[12:27] <EriC^> `hypermist`: if that works let it run with the custom photorec sig and it should find it
[12:27] <EriC^> `hypermist`: yeah
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> theone1: ok. What is the output of : lsb_release -a; df -i; uname -a; df -h
[12:28] <theone1> ActionParsnip: should i excecute this command in terminal?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> theone1: use http://pastie.org or similar to host the text
[12:28] <sivaraj> configure: error: FreeType development files not found. Fonts will not be built
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> theone1: yes please
[12:28] <sivaraj> how can solve this issue "configure: error: FreeType development files not found. Fonts will not be built"
[12:29] <`hypermist`> shouldn't it have detected headers already EriC^  ?
[12:29] <k1l> sivaraj: make sure you got all the depencies installed that the README sas you nee
[12:29] <EriC^> `hypermist`: did you try for txt and ntfs?
[12:29] <k1l> *need
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> sivaraj: have you tried putting the error into a search engine online?
[12:29] <theone1> ActionParsnip: http://fpaste.org/174326/14221889/raw/
[12:29] <`hypermist`> EriC^:  yep
[12:29] <`hypermist`> so im sure im ext4 o-o
[12:30] <EriC^> `hypermist`: did the partition have windows?
[12:30] <`hypermist`> yea it did
[12:30]  * EriC^ feels like the guy who has to tell someone santa isn't rea
[12:30] <`hypermist`> otherwise if i cannot find it there goes 20$ lol
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> theone1: looks good. Are you  settling the download to go to /media/theone/Films ?
[12:31] <`hypermist`> im doing a testdisk and the photorec EriC^
[12:31] <EriC^> `hypermist`: ok
[12:31] <theone1> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> `hypermist`: also try foremost
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> theone1: did you recursively chown the mount point to your user?
[12:32] <EriC^> `hypermist`: did you ever have an issue and came here before?
[12:32] <theone1> ActionParsnip: no, and i am not sure what that means,
[12:32] <`hypermist`> EriC^:  that mabye. but taht probably was a different issue
[12:33] <`hypermist`> When i was trying to figure out how to mass replace stoof
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> theone1: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /media/theone
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> theone1: so that your user is the owner of the data and can write to it.
[12:35] <theone1> ActionParsnip: hmmm, i am not sure what that means yet, :-( seems complicated
[12:35] <clausen> for those curious about my question (about when is it safe to edit config files without fearing overwrites), this FAQ is quite helpful: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-customizing.en.html
[12:36] <theone1> ActionParsnip: and i still get the same error, file too large, i just tryed the torrent again
[12:36] <EriC^> `hypermist`: in testdisk's deep search, you dont get any MS DATA partitions listed?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> theone1: copying and pasting text is complicated?
[12:36] <`hypermist`> EriC^:  i only just did quick search just then and nothing
[12:36] <EriC^> `hypermist`: let it run for a minute or two
[12:36] <theone1> ActionParsnip: no i meant the command and what it changed in transmission
[12:36] <EriC^> `hypermist`: try the deep search
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> theone1: if that's complicated then you will really struggle with computers
[12:36] <theone1> ActionParsnip: i used to use utorrnet, and i did not face anything like this before :-/
[12:36] <`hypermist`> should i be selecting Intel of EFI GPT EriC^  ?
[12:36] <EriC^> Intel
[12:37] <ztealmax> Good day all :)
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> theone1: it changes the ownership of the files recursively from the mount point
[12:37] <theone1> ActionParsnip: ok
[12:37] <EriC^> `hypermist`: which is selected when you the menu appears?
[12:37] <`hypermist`> EriC^:  what do you mean.
[12:37] <ztealmax> what channel is for ubuntu social talk? :)
[12:37] <EriC^> `hypermist`: when the menu first appears which one is selected?
[12:37] <EriC^> intel or efi ?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> theone1: it sounds like the file system is mounted read or something like that. What is the output of: mount
[12:37] <`hypermist`> Intel
[12:38] <EriC^> `hypermist`: ok, use Intel
[12:38] <`hypermist`> this thing could take hours lol :D
[12:38] <EriC^> `hypermist`: let it run for a few minutes
[12:38] <theone1> ActionParsnip: http://fpaste.org/174331/18945714/raw/
[12:38] <`hypermist`> i let it run to 10% last time and it said linux all the way through it EriC^
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> theone1: Linux can mount file systems however you want. Windows just presents it to you. No control. Can you make files on the partition using other applications?
[12:38] <EriC^> `hypermist`: the quick or deep search?
[12:39] <`hypermist`> Deep
[12:39] <`hypermist`> when we first started this
[12:39] <EriC^> ok
[12:39] <BluesKaj> ztealmax, #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> theone1: did you mu ally mount the USB partition?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> *manually
[12:40] <theone1> ActionParsnip: its ok relax, this is too complicated for me, i am not a programmer, i just want to watch movies on my new ubuntu, i will download my files on mac and copy them to ubuntu. thanks for your help :-)
[12:42] <EriC^> `hypermist`: try sudo apt-get install gpart
[12:42] <EriC^> `hypermist`: then sudo gpart /dev/sdX , it tries to guess partitions
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> !find gpart
[12:43] <EriC^> `hypermist`: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Gpart
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Hmm. One for the brainbox
[12:43] <`hypermist`> it sai Scanning now EriC^
[12:43] <`hypermist`> sai = is
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> EriC^: learn something new every day
[12:44] <EriC^> ActionParsnip: true
[12:44] <Lockzi> I am having problems with start-stop-daemon. When issuing sudo service hyperion-x11 start it does not return to console. Instead I am locked in the process (i.e. I see all the output from the program)
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Lockzi: redirect stderr to/dev/null
[12:45] <Lockzi> ActionParsnip:  > /dev/null 2>&1?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Lockzi: yes have you tried it?
[12:46] <Lockzi> Yes, am am still getting the same result...
[12:46] <Lockzi>        start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --chuid $USER --pidfile $PIDFILE --background --exec /usr/bin/env DISPLAY=:0 XAUTHORITY=/home/$USER/.Xauthority $DAEMON > /dev/null 2>&1 \
[12:46] <Lockzi>                 || return 1
[12:46] <Lockzi> That is what my startup looks like…
[12:46] <EriC^> `hypermist`: did it find any ntfs partitions?
[12:47] <`hypermist`> EriC^:  all i see is Begin scan...
[12:47] <EriC^> `hypermist`: ok
[12:47] <Lockzi> Just manipulated the /etc/init.d/skeleton by adding —chuid and —background
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Lockzi: http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=180472
[12:48] <Lockzi> ActionParsnip: Yes, that is for hyperiond which I am already starting as a service. I am configuring hyperion-x11 to start as service as well :)
[12:49] <`hypermist`> EriC^:  does it mean its working ?
[12:49] <EriC^> `hypermist`: it's scanning
[12:49] <`hypermist`> Okay dokey
[12:49] <Silverfisken> Hi! I just installed ubuntu =) Any tips n tricks anyone wanna share with me? Or maybe a link to a good page? I'm primary looking for security "fixes" and integrity protection =)
[12:50] <`hypermist`> lol it says Type ext4 in System monitor EriC^
[12:50] <jatt> Silverfisken: get familiar with your system and over time start disable all services you don't really need
[12:51] <Silverfisken> jatt: Thanks, will do =)
[12:51] <EriC^> `hypermist`: windows can't read ext filesystem without adding programs to it, so it'd have to be on a ntfs or fat etc. partition
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Silverfisken: install ubuntu-restricted-extras and get fully updated
[12:51] <`hypermist`> All i know is that it says Type ext4 EriC^
[12:52] <EriC^> `hypermist`: yeah that lists the current filesystems
[12:52] <EriC^> ( the mounted ones )
[12:52] <`hypermist`> EriC^:  and i know im very tired. and hope i can get my wallet lel
[12:53] <bennypr0fane> Hello, I installed xfce on top of Ubuntu Server. When I try to start Synaptic, X freezes. I get into tty1, and press Ctrl+C (because I haven't had any better idea yet), it doesn't end just Synaptic, but the entire X session. An yclues?
[12:54] <Lockzi> ActionParsnip: Any other ideas? It works if I execute it in terminal, but as soon as I implement it in the start-stop-daemon it will not run in background and return to terminal
[12:56] <`hypermist`> still scanning i think EriC^
[12:57] <`hypermist`> wait a minnit EriC^ it says harddrive isa 976gb and avaibile 922 and used 4.1 where is the rest going o-o
[12:57] <Ben64> reserved space
[12:57] <Silverfisken> ActionParsnip, Thanks, doing that right now =)
[12:58] <`hypermist`> Ben64:  *magic*
[12:58] <`hypermist`> lol
[12:58] <`hypermist`> :D
[12:58] <Ben64> um, no. reserved space
[12:58] <`hypermist`> Im tired. im trying to make jokes :D
[13:08] <bennypr0fane> In other words: what's the meaning of this: http://i.imgur.com/cnqqRud.jpg and hwo can I fix it?
[13:10] <uber_hulk> Hi
[13:10] <brainwash> bennypr0fane: you have to run "startxfce4" first
[13:10] <brainwash> bennypr0fane: to actually start the Xfce session
[13:10] <uber_hulk> I insralled ubuntu along windows by creating one swap partition and one primary partition on /
[13:10] <uber_hulk> Is it alright way?
[13:11] <muppis> What could be broken when no usernames appears to gdm at all?
[13:11] <Ben64> bennypr0fane: few questions. 1. if is a server, why did you install a gui? 2. why do you need a gui? 3. why do you need synaptic? 4. how are you starting the gui? 5. how are you starting synaptic?
[13:11] <Ben64> uber_hulk: that works
[13:12] <muppis> And gdm doesn't redraw itself properly.
[13:12] <uber_hulk> Ben64: great
[13:13] <zacwalls> via terminal how can i ssh a windows pc?
[13:13] <bennypr0fane> brainwash: I did start the session with startx. I started Synaptic from the Gui (click in Xfce menu, authentication prompt...). It worked a few times, now it doesn't
[13:13] <jatt> ssh user@windowspc
[13:13] <brainwash> muppis: gdm is the gnome diplay manager, try to ask in #ubuntu-gnome
[13:13] <Ben64> zacwalls: ssh TO windows? windows doesn't have ssh, you might be able to install it with cygwin or something
[13:13] <muppis> brainwash, ok.
[13:14] <zacwalls> so like joshua@192.168.254.40
[13:14] <bennypr0fane> Ben64: this should answer questions 4 and 5. How are questions 1-3 relevant to the solution for my problem?
[13:14] <lolzer> in every update i have to follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022411  to make my ethernet work. How can i avoid doing this ?
[13:14] <zacwalls> ben64 Is winscp okay?
[13:14] <Ben64> bennypr0fane: because if you want a gui, its easiest to install the desktop version
[13:15] <Ben64> zacwalls: you need to be more specific, which OS do you want to SSH from and to
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> zacwalls: there are ssh servers for Windows but it's used for SFTP mainly
[13:15] <zacwalls> SFTP is what i want
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> zacwalls: there are SFTP servers for Windows.
[13:16] <zacwalls> ben64, I want to ssh via terminal from ubuntu to win
[13:16] <bennypr0fane> Ben64: well that's not how i did it. now I'm here
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> zacwalls: Windows doesn't use SSH like Linux does.
[13:16] <jatt> install ssh on win, then ssh user@windowspc
[13:16] <Ben64> zacwalls: great, so you don't need Ubuntu support. Seek support in ##windows or google.com then for that you need
[13:16] <zacwalls> I noticed
[13:16] <brainwash> bennypr0fane: according to your screenshot, you are being asked for the password in the virtual terminal
[13:17] <zacwalls> Ben64, Yes I do
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> zacwalls: ##windows can advise an SFTP server for Windows. You can then connect from any OS and transfer files
[13:17] <`hypermist`> Hmm gpart still says begin scan
[13:17] <bennypr0fane> brainwash, yes, while what it should do is ask for it in the gui
[13:17] <Ben64> bennypr0fane: don't use sudo for graphical applications
[13:18] <thiago-prado> hello everbody
[13:18] <brainwash> bennypr0fane: install policykit-1-gnome to get the graphical password prompt
[13:18] <ablest1980> hello
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: in Trusty and later it's fine. Gksudo isn't in a default install
[13:18] <bennypr0fane> Ben64: that's sound advice, but I didn't do that, I started Synaptic by clicking in the menu
[13:19] <Ben64> not according to your screenshot
[13:19] <bennypr0fane> brainwash, ah, that's probably it
[13:19] <thiago-prado> i am brazilian and have a problem with java instalation on ubuntu
[13:19] <jatt> gksudo for graphical su
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> thiago-prado: WebUpd8 has a PPA to easily install Oracle Java
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> jatt: gksu isn't in a default install since Trusty
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> Jatt: polkit has been fixed so that it doesn't cause issues
[13:21] <`hypermist`> ActionParsnip:  knowing its probably gone forever :|
[13:21] <bennypr0fane> brainwash: you wouldn't happen to know what's the command for starting policykit?
[13:21] <jatt> still gksu is a good alternative (in my case i used it to be able to run synaptic from a menu)
[13:21] <ActionParsnip>  `hypermist` people love to learn the hard way.
[13:22] <`hypermist`> Oh well. there goes probably  20$
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> jatt: why synaptic? Software centre is in a default install
[13:22] <jatt> i love synaptic
[13:22] <jatt> :-)
[13:22]  * bennypr0fane loves synaptic too
[13:22] <thiago-prado> ActionParsnip i try add WebUpd8 and show me this error: cannot install ppa:webupd8/team/java
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> jatt: I guess
[13:23]  * bennypr0fane doesn't understand why people shouldn't be allowed to use non-defaults
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> thiago-prado: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8/team/java
[13:23] <jatt> ? it's ok to use non-defaults, if you know what you are doing
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> bennypr0fane: they are allowed to use what they wish. It's the beauty of the OS
[13:24] <Rovanion> Hi, I'm having issues with lightdm not starting. What packages can I be missing? I have lightdm-gtk-greeter installed, do I need anything more?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> bennypr0fane: where did you read that you have to use the defaults?
[13:24] <`hypermist`> ActionParsnip:  i might just say its gone. Cause nothing seems to be finding it :|
[13:25] <bennypr0fane> ActionParsnip: someone wrote: "why synaptic? Software centre is in a default install"
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> bennypr0fane: yes I did
[13:25] <thiago-prado> ActionParsnip Yes sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8/team/java in other computer its done, but here error rsrsrsrs
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> bennypr0fane: I was asking the reason why... Try reading what I wrote, not what you think I wrote
[13:26] <brainwash> Rovanion: look at the log files in /var/log/lightdm
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> thiago-prado: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[13:27] <bennypr0fane> So anyway, I was trying to get the "open as administrator" option in Thunar file manager. It has this sort of add-ons manager for that, but no add-ons there to install. Would anyone happen to know which package I would need for that?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> thiago-prado: use TAB and ENTER to accept the license
[13:27] <Rovanion> brainwash: No such file or folder.
[13:27] <EriC^^> ugh
[13:28] <brainwash> Rovanion: can you start lightdm manuall? sudo start lightdm
[13:28] <EriC^^> i forgot to back up my home dir in a while and i just erased it
[13:28] <brainwash> manually
[13:28] <Rovanion> brainwash: Unknown job.
[13:28] <Neldogz> Hi everyone, so for the first time ever my Ubuntu 14 desktop rebooted yesterday while it was under a 85% cpu load.
[13:28] <brainwash> Rovanion: then you should actually install lightdm
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Rovanion: lightdm packages needed are in a default install. ...
[13:28] <Neldogz> Can someone help me try to figure out why it rebooted? Not sure what to look for in the syslog.. too much stuff to parse through
[13:28] <Rovanion> brainwash: Odd, lightdm-gtk-greeter does not seem to depend on lightdm.
[13:29] <brainwash> Rovanion: well, it is odd, maybe worth to file a bug report
[13:29] <arun> guys, any way to remove gpg: [don't know]: invalid packet (ctb=2d) .... blah blah from apt-key list ?
[13:29] <jatt> Neldogz: check syslog
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Neldogz: grep the files in /var/log for the date of the crash. Will reduce the data to read
[13:30] <bennypr0fane> ActionParsnip: ok
[13:30] <Rovanion> Now running sudo start lightdm results in Job failed to start. http://paste.ubuntu.com/9866513/
[13:30] <Neldogz> ActionParsnip, thank you doing that now
[13:30] <EriC^^> Rovanion: sudo service lightdm start
[13:30] <EriC^^> Rovanion: not sudo start lightdm
[13:30] <Rovanion> EriC^^:
[13:30] <Rovanion> start: Job failed to start
[13:31] <bennypr0fane> brainwash: policy kit is what it was! thanks!
[13:31] <Rovanion> EriC^^: i.e. same result.
[13:31] <brainwash> EriC^^: "sudo start" is the upstart way to start a job
[13:31] <brainwash> bennypr0fane: awesome :)
[13:31] <arun> guys, any way to remove gpg: [don't know]: invalid packet (ctb=2d) .... blah blah from apt-key list ?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> Rovanion: what is the output of : cat /etc/issue
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> arun: man apt-key
[13:32] <Rovanion> Interesting, it actually doesn't depend on lightdm: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/lightdm-gtk-greeter
[13:32] <brainwash> Rovanion: you will have to configure lightdm to use the gtk-greeter
[13:32] <Rovanion> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[13:32] <`hypermist`> EriC^^:  it just kept saying. begin scan
[13:32] <thiago-prado> ActionParsnip: Thankyou for you atemption, java installed with sucess now :)
[13:33] <Neldogz> ActionParsnip, in Windows systems we can usually refer to an event id to try and determine the root of a crash, reboot etc.. What keywords can i search for in the syslog besides fail, reboot, restart?? Nothing of importance is coming up
[13:33] <brainwash> Rovanion: the unity-greeter does not depend on lightdm either, it only recommends lightdm
[13:33] <Rovanion> blaatmeister_: Why would it be that way? Can the greeter be used without lightdm?
[13:33] <thiago-prado> ActionParsnip do you from american ?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Neldogz: reboots in Windows are caused by lots of things. You can't just search for one number and find the cause
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> thiago-prado: UK
[13:34] <jatt> install kernel-crash-dump in case the kernel is the culprit
[13:34] <Neldogz> ActionParsnip, yes pretty much you can if you know what event id's to look for
[13:34] <Rovanion> So how do I configure lightdm to use the gtk-greeter? dpkg-reconfigure only shows me the switcher between different dm:s.
[13:34] <arun> AceLan: the
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Neldogz: I do RCA reports nearly every day for crap Windows boxes. It's not that simle
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> *simple
[13:35] <Neldogz> ActionParsnip, im a systems admin and manage 50 windows boxes..
[13:35] <brainwash> Rovanion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[13:35] <arun> ActionParsnip: the commands there, couldn't delete those lines... http://dpaste.com/17FJCGB
[13:36] <Neldogz> ActionParsnip, and I also write up root cause analysis, are we done with the penis sizing now/
[13:36] <arun> ActionParsnip: http://dpaste.com/2JW8DT0
[13:36] <brainwash> Rovanion: you should forward dependency question to launchpad and/or #xubuntu-devel
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> Neldogz: I look after 5 DCs worth as well as remote customer sites. We use Nimsoft in order to manage it all
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Neldogz: you need to grep the files to find what you need. If the server is physical and you have ilo / drac then logs there may help
[13:38] <Neldogz> ActionParsnip, thanks I will take a closer look
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Neldogz: or check logs in the vsphere client to see what happened there too
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Neldogz: you can also check esx logs / storage logs around the same time too (if it's virtual)
[13:39] <Neldogz> ActionParsnip, It's a physical box so I should only need to look within /var/log
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Neldogz: does it have ilo or drac?
[13:46] <`hypermist`> woops
[13:49] <rtr_> hi there, i got a failing disk which i imaged using dd_rescue. now i want to modify the filesystem and bevore doing so, i would like to somehow create a snapshot which holds only the modified bytes. i have no free space to copy this 3TB file
[13:56] <ubuntunoob> hi
[13:57] <ubuntunoob> can anyone help me with installing 14.04.1 LTS?
[13:57] <EriC^^> ubuntunoob: how far have you gotten?
[13:57] <bekks> ubuntunoob: What do you need help with, in particular? :)
[13:59] <ubuntunoob> my system has 2 drives in raid 0 where windows 7 is installed and then 1 drive where i had ubuntu 12.04 LTS (i think). i tried to update the 12.04 partition with 14.04.1 LTS and the installer failed and now GRUB won't let me boot into any OS
[13:59] <ubuntunoob> im not sure if the iso i was using was corrupt because i didn't do a md5 checksum on it but regardless i downloaded a new iso on my laptop and verified its integrity
[14:00] <bekks> do you have a hardware raid controller?
[14:00] <ubuntunoob> no
[14:00] <ubuntunoob> it's through the mobo
[14:00] <ubuntunoob> gparted still shows my RAID setup
[14:00] <bekks> That sounds like a non-usable-fakeraid-controller-under-ubuntu then.
[14:00] <bekks> "still shows your raid setup"? Does it show one or two disks?
[14:01] <arun> guys, any way to remove gpg: [don't know]: invalid packet (ctb=2d) .... blah blah from apt-key list ?
[14:01] <christophe_> hi
[14:01] <ubuntunoob> it shows /dev/mapper/isw_bgbggjbbgc_thefuture as being ~1.2 TB
[14:01] <ubuntunoob> all my drives are 640 GB
[14:02] <bekks> ubuntunoob: Does it show one or two disks?
[14:02] <ubuntunoob> the raid was working fine when I had ubuntu 12 installed
[14:02] <janolap1> Hi there, I'm trying to grab dv from my dv video camera (I have a firewire pci card). As far as I read, I need to enable raw1394 via modprob, but I can't do it : "modprobe: FATAL: Module raw1394 not found.". I'm on lubuntu 14.10
[14:02] <ubuntunoob> um, i'm not sure exactly where it would show that. but on my ubuntu desktop right now it shows a 1.2 TB volume on the left
[14:03] <bekks> ubuntunoob: Third time: does it show one or two disks in gparted?
[14:03] <ubuntunoob> like i said i dont know where it shows that
[14:03] <ubuntunoob> where do i go to find that
[14:03] <bekks> ubuntunoob: "in gparted".
[14:04] <ubuntunoob> it shows a /dev/mapper/isw_bgbggjbbgc_thefuture disk along with 3 disks of 596.17 GiB and a disk of 3.76 GiB
[14:05] <bekks> ubuntunoob: And how many disks does your computer have, in total, physically?
[14:05] <ubuntunoob> the 596.17 GiBs which were associated with the RAID 0 show unallocated partitions of the total disk size
[14:05] <ubuntunoob> like i said, 3 physical hard drives. 2 of which were used in raid 0, 1 in no raid association
[14:05] <ubuntunoob> unallocated partition*
[14:06] <ubuntunoob> i can access the RAID 0 drive through ubuntu and all my data is still there
[14:06] <ubuntunoob> there's a boot folder in the root RAID 0 drive with grub in there
[14:08] <uber_hulk> How do i make sure my home dir is encrypted now?
[14:09] <bmuk> Hey everyone; I am setting up a lab with about 30 laptops and several desktops. I would like to automate the management of these computers, specifically wiping them, reinstalling ubuntu with my custom packages and configs, installing virtual machines and managing them, as well as updating the software on these computers. What is the best way for me to go about doing this? The management part could use something like Fabric, Chef, Puppet, 
[14:12] <uber_hulk> I have .Privvate
[14:12] <uber_hulk> In my home dir
[14:13] <bekks> ubuntunoob: If you can see three drives, then that confirms that you dont have a hardware raid controller.
[14:13] <lolzer> in every update i have to follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022411  to make my ethernet work. How can i avoid doing this ?
[14:13] <uber_hulk> That mans encrypted?
[14:13] <ubuntunoob> yes, i do not have a hardware raid controller. my RAID is set up through the mobo
[14:13] <bekks> ubuntunoob: "through the mobo" does not specify wether it is a hardware or software raid setup.
[14:13] <ubuntunewbie1204> I have a very small video to edit. I am looking for video editor. Which one should I use? They all look the same.
[14:14] <bekks> ubuntunoob: Thats why I asked you those questions.
[14:14] <ubuntunoob> there is no hardware controlling my raid setup apart from the chips that come with my mobo
[14:14] <ubuntunewbie1204> pitivi/openshot?
[14:14] <ubuntunoob> i didnt buy a RAID card and install it into my mobo and hook my drives up to it
[14:15] <bekks> ubuntunoob: There are raid controllers that are on the mobo. so "chips on the mobo" does not mean a thing.
[14:15] <uber_hulk> bekks: ?
[14:15] <ubuntunoob> i've been told b efore that what i'm using is considered a fakeRAID because i'm not using a dedicated RAID controller
[14:15] <ubuntunoob> that it's controlled via software on the mobo
[14:15] <uber_hulk> How check if home is encrypted, bekks?
[14:16] <bekks> ubuntunoob: Correct. But referring to a software raid as "being a raid using the mobo" is wrong, technically.
[14:16] <ubuntunoob> ok, sorry then
[14:16] <bekks> ubuntunoob: I dont know, since I dont use encryption myself.
[14:16] <ubuntunoob> what can i do to fix this?
[14:16] <bekks> ubuntunoob: To fix what exactly?
[14:17] <ubuntunoob> my system boots into a GRUB error terminal saying it can't locate a hex value
[14:17] <bekks> ubuntunoob: Can you tell us the full and exact error message?
[14:20] <Myrkur> hey guys I'm having a problem with my wifi
[14:20] <Myrkur> it disconnect every now and then I don't know why
[14:21] <janolap1> ubuntunewbie1204 : I'm using kino. It's stable enough for me...
[14:22] <Myrkur> maybe my dhcp bail is too short
[14:23] <daftykins> Myrkur: you mean your DHCP lease time?
[14:23] <Myrkur> daftykins: yeah that I didn't know the term in english
[14:24] <arun> guys, any way to remove gpg: [don't know]: invalid packet (ctb=2d) .... blah blah from apt-key list ?
[14:25] <daftykins> arun: yeah, saying 'blah blah' is gonna clue us in :) how about sharing a pastebin?
[14:25] <Myrkur> well it doesn't seem to be a dhcp problem
[14:25] <arun> daftykins: http://dpaste.com/2JW8DT0
[14:28] <verboom> hi all
[14:29] <daftykins> arun: one suggestion online, rename your ~/.gnupg folder if present
[14:30] <daftykins> seems to be a potential issue from keeping the same /home between distros / upgrades
[14:30] <arun> daftykins: rename to what please?
[14:31] <daftykins> arun: anything but, so as to rule it out of the problem (i.e. instead of deleting)
[14:35] <xbox> hi
[14:35] <arun> daftykins: I did it sir, but it didn't fix the issue
[14:35] <xbox> my ubunto no installing app
[14:36] <daftykins> arun: how about in /root's directory? since you're running as root
[14:36] <daftykins> xbox: ok, what's happening?
[14:36] <xbox> version 10.10
[14:36] <arseny09> hi all
[14:36] <xbox> live cd
[14:37] <xbox> yes
[14:38] <arun> daftykins: yes I have done in both home and root
[14:38] <daftykins> xbox: you're joking right?
[14:38] <daftykins> !10.10
[14:38] <daftykins> 3 years dead
[14:39] <xbox> kkkk
[14:39] <Meerkat> what? oh
[14:39] <daftykins> xbox: run 12.04.5, 14.04.1 or 14.10 for a supported release :)
[14:39] <daftykins> (preferably 14.04.1)
[14:40] <xbox> mi user in live usb xbox 360
[14:40] <xbox> xell reload
[14:41] <Anteac> what distro is recommennded if im used to ubuntu and its terminal but dont like unity/gnome ..
[14:41] <jatt> xubuntu
[14:42] <EriC^^> Anteac: or lubuntu or kubuntu ..
[14:42] <Anteac> kk
[14:42] <daftykins> or MATE edition too!
[14:42] <xbox> xbox 360 run ubunto 10.10
[14:42] <xbox> live cd
[14:43] <daftykins> xbox: if you are trying to ask a question, you're not making sense. what language do you speak?
[14:43] <Anteac> wait those are 3 different names xD so difficult to pick one
[14:43] <xbox> brazil
[14:43] <daftykins> !br | xbox
[14:44] <daftykins> Anteac: lubuntu in my opinion is super low end for old hardware, looks pretty ugly - xubuntu is a nice compromise, kubuntu uses KDE and is pretty heavy on the graphics just like unity, then MATE is like old versions of ubuntu before unity came along
[14:45] <Anteac> im gonna run a linux vbox with my win7 host in seamless mode, my pc can handle xubuntu i guess
[14:45] <Anteac> kubuntu i mean
[14:47] <daftykins> Anteac: xubuntu would be far more bearable in a VM ;)
[14:48] <Anteac> okay gonna play around with it
[14:50] <EriC^^> Hardtail: hey bro
[14:58] <melray> I was able to successfully install 14.10 by passing parameters nomodeset depmod...
[14:58] <Hardtail> anybody run maya on Ubuntu?
[14:58] <melray> on reboot it didn't keep these parameters and I can't get into grub boot to add them.
[14:58] <daftykins> melray: hold left shift at boot
[14:59] <melray> I have booted back into the live cd however don't have any idea how to access the grub config on the hard drive to add this?
[14:59] <daftykins> melray: no that's a bad approach, hold left shift at boot to get the GRUB menu, then add them as a one time thing
[14:59] <daftykins> boot in, then get some proper graphics drivers installed
[14:59] <melray> daftykins: Thanks but shift don't work...I have had to hit escape then F6 to get to the option
[15:00] <melray> with the live cd
[15:00] <daftykins> i'm talking about on your install though, yeah?
[15:00] <daftykins> laptop or desktop?
[15:00] <melray> So I presume it would be the same for boot...yes I understand
[15:00] <melray> laptop
[15:00] <melray> nvidia GTS 360M
[15:00] <daftykins> 360m 0o odd
[15:00] <cfhowlett> Hardtail, apparently autodesk hasn't seen fit to support *nix except for redhat.
[15:01] <daftykins> melray: try both shift keys. is it possible you're just doing it too late?
[15:01] <melray> I know which driver to install after I get booted in
[15:01] <daftykins> is that an optimus system?
[15:02] <melray> daftykins: No an older Toshiba
[15:02] <daftykins> melray: optimus is hybrid graphics intel+nvidia, not a brand
[15:02] <melray> Ahhh...no just nvidia in the Geforce 6 - 7 group
[15:03] <daftykins> hrmm, there's really no good reason why the shift keys wouldn't work.
[15:03] <melray> daftykins: I see what is happening when trying to boot nouveau driver causes a gpu lockup
[15:03] <daftykins> yeah
[15:04] <melray> daftykins: No way to edit the grub config file(s) and add the kernel parameters?
[15:04] <daftykins> there is, but that's a wrong approach really. would've been nicer to do it the proper way
[15:04] <daftykins> !chroot
[15:05] <daftykins> you can follow the above from a live session then edit the relevant config
[15:05] <melray> daftykins: Ok thanks for the information will try shift first...once booted it will be easy enough to get the nvidia drivers installed
[15:06] <daftykins> yeah you don't need to tell me, i'm a regular volunteer :P
[15:07] <Hardtail> cfhowlett Hmm ok thanks
[15:08] <hroi> hi
[15:08] <hroi> I'm running ubuntu on AWS
[15:09] <daftykins> hroi: a full question on one line would be good
[15:09] <daftykins> pretty sure we don't support amazon instances though
[15:09] <hroi> I need to install a desktop, only I'm a little surprised that apt-get install xubuntu-desktop takes 1.4 GB
[15:09] <hroi> something wrong with my choice... shouldn't it be way lighter
[15:09] <cfhowlett> hroi, yep, something wrong there.
[15:10] <daftykins> just install xfce perhaps
[15:11] <hroi> daftykins, cfhowlett :   amazon EC2 uses ubuntu LTS server
[15:11] <hroi> I'll try xfce only
[15:11] <cfhowlett> hroi, no idea about it, thus my silence ...
[15:11] <cfhowlett> hroi, oh wait ...
[15:12] <cfhowlett> hroi, no even from server, 1.4 gb is wrong.
[15:12] <daftykins> hroi: yeah but they modify it from what i understand.
[15:12] <jatt> 2gb is light
[15:12] <brainwash> hroi: try "sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends xubuntu-desktop"
[15:13] <hroi> daftykins,  cfhowlett :   lol... when I do apt-get install xfce4 it reports 209MB only
[15:13] <cfhowlett> hroi, if all you need is the interface, sudo apt-get xfce4
[15:13] <brainwash> hroi: or install "xubuntu-core"
[15:14] <hroi> brainwash, right... maybe that was it....
[15:14] <hroi> brainwash, no such package
[15:15] <brainwash> hroi: oh, it's possible that -core is not available in 14.04
[15:15] <hroi> hey read this... the end of doc  http://complete-concrete-concise.com/ubuntu-2/ubuntu-12-04-server/ubuntu-12-04-server-how-to-install-a-gui
[15:15] <hroi> it says xubuntu desktop will take 1.4GB
[15:15] <jatt> I would say, why just not install the thing? 2gb is not that much disk space for a desktop environmment
[15:16] <daftykins> jatt: it's a VPS :P
[15:16] <daftykins> hroi: X doesn't even belong on a hosted server.
[15:16] <daftykins> what are you trying to achieve?
[15:16] <hroi> daftykins,  it does if you have a Nvidia GRID GPU attached to the hosted server
[15:17] <daftykins> that's a ridiculous statement
[15:17] <hroi> daftykins,   we are doing GPU rendering tests... also not every 3D application manufacturer gives you great options for configuring the renderer
[15:18] <hroi> daftykins,   I agree with what you are saying... its true... but does not on the fly facilitate bug checking
[15:18] <daftykins> wat
[15:18] <jatt> you have a gpu attached but... do you have a monitor?
[15:18] <hroi> daftykins, if everyone ... such as autodesk was command line oriented
[15:19] <hroi> jatt,  we use the GPU for 3D ray tracing
[15:19] <daftykins> didn't even think autodesk did products on Linux
[15:19] <hroi> jatt,  trust me... it can save time... from time to time to fire up the desktop with nx or other
[15:19] <jatt> you are doing heavy stuff then, then why comply about 2gb disk space?
[15:20] <cfhowlett> this ^^^ +1
[15:20] <hroi> jatt,  no complaints... just felt like something wrong... it turns out that package actually is that big
[15:20] <hroi>  :)
[15:20] <hroi> so all is good
[15:20] <daftykins> it's not a big surprise to me given a -desktop would have libre office, X - all that junk
[15:20] <jatt> full requirements of xfce are 5gb, ~2gb is the minimal install
[15:21] <hroi> yeah... I think I will just install xfce I only need it for testing not to write word docs :D
[15:21] <hroi> thanks!
[15:29] <kejt> Hello. For some reason Firefox crashes randomly on Ubuntu 14.04. It has no repeating pattern for doing that and I don't have any extra addons, but the default 4 that are from Ubuntu installed. Any hints how to deal with it?
[15:30] <theadmin> kejt: Run Firefox from command line, wait until it crashes, see errors
[15:30] <Apachez> kejt: out of the blue, try to run a session of memtest+
[15:30] <Apachez> to rule out any ram problems
[15:30] <kejt> theadmin, will do now. Apachez, will try in a second. Thank you.
[15:30] <daftykins> clean browser profiles are always good, too
[15:31] <theadmin> kejt: (also, if you do go the memtest route, you should run that for quite a few hours so that will take a while)
[15:31] <melray> daftykins: Thanks for the help got the drivers installed
[15:31] <kejt> theadmin, yeap, I was kinda supposing that, that's why I saved it for later. :)
[15:32] <daftykins> melray: boots normally now huh? you'd need to remove nomodeset from the GRUB config again ideally if you added it
[15:34] <kejt> theadmin, is it possible to be because of some caches or something? Because it didn't restore the session when I tried to open it with the terminal and for some reason it doesn't crash now at all...
[15:35] <melray> daftykins: Yeah I guess shift doesn't work with the live cd but does on a intalled grub boot
[15:36] <daftykins> melray: yeah that was my point from the beginning :) were you trying shift with the live session? perhaps that's where the confusion came from :>
[15:38] <melray> daftykins: Yes sorry just getting familiar with linux. Been taking the free edx.org course. It is basic, but basic is good when you don't have the basics down. :-)
[15:39] <hroi> the nvidia-drivers are not showing up in my aptitude search
[15:39] <daftykins> melray: oh absolutely, it's a good course that. i've yet to sign up for v2, definitely helps fill in gaps for everyone i think
[15:39] <hroi> I guess I'm supposed to add some repo?
[15:39] <daftykins> hroi: only for newer versions. but as we said you're using AWS then it's not official. "apt-get update && apt-cache search nvidia"
[15:40] <daftykins> you should see nvidia-304, nvidia-319, nvidia-331 at least
[15:40] <jiohdi> or just install nvidia-current
[15:40] <daftykins> no, that installs 304 which is ancient
[15:40] <daftykins> bad move.
[15:40] <hroi> yeah... but they are not in the sources
[15:41] <daftykins> 'they'?
[15:41] <hroi> nvidia-current nvidia-3... not in repo ... I think I'm supposed to source some other repo
[15:41] <hroi> dont know whichone
[15:42] <daftykins> hroi: follow amazon's advice maybe.
[15:42] <melray> Or system settings software & updates then the tap for additional drivers...that *should* detect what you need unless as daftykins stated the drivers are a special case
[15:42] <melray> *tab*
[15:42] <daftykins> melray: not a desktop :)
[15:43] <ubuntunoob> melray: would you be able to help me with partition problems involving a windows 7 RAID 0 setup?
[15:43] <jiohdi> if you did an upgrade along the way, you may have to go into the repo's list and re-enable 3rd party software
[15:43] <melray> ubuntunoob: No sorry I have no skills in that area
[15:43] <hroi> daftykins, melray ::   here's the apt sources list :    http://www.pasteall.org/56308
[15:43] <hroi> Isn't this pretty standard sources
[15:43] <daftykins> ubuntunoob: you should address the channel, not pick on individual users. you can't use fakeRAID that Windows is setup on, with Ubuntu
[15:44] <hroi> I dont think amazon is running any special sources
[15:44] <daftykins> i think you're wrong there
[15:44] <ubuntunoob> ubuntu is on a separate drive not in the fakeraid
[15:44] <daftykins> ubuntunoob: what are you trying to achieve then?
[15:45] <daftykins> hroi: yes they're running their own repos there, so the packages they have are up to them.
[15:46] <hroi> daftykins,  yeah it loks so
[15:46] <hroi> it could be just a mirror... but we cant tell
[15:46] <daftykins> yeah maybe a mirror with some removed
[15:46] <daftykins> if you don't get anything from "apt-cache search nvidia" then there y'go
[15:46] <ubuntunoob> i have a windows 7 installation on 2 drives in fakeraid 0 and ubuntu on a single drive not in any raid association. i recently tried to upgrade ubuntu 12.04 LTS to 14 LTS and i think the iso was corrupt because it failed installation and wiped my GRUB bootloader and bootmgr. i just installed 14 and got it working with a new iso but my fakeraid 0 is gone. however, before i installed it i copied the windows 100mb boot partition in
[15:46] <ubuntunoob> to the drive the linux. now gparted shows 3 drives, 2 of which with unallocated data and then the third drive with linux containing the windows boot partition
[15:47] <ubuntunoob> i just need to know how to set up the 2 drives back into RAID 0 with the stripe size and then point it to the windows 100mb boot partition so i can get back into my old installation- i just don't know how to do it or if it's possible
[15:47] <daftykins> ubuntunoob: not an ubuntu issue whatsoever. go to ##windows
[15:47] <ubuntunoob> ty
[15:48] <ablest1980> you can change raid in bios?
[15:49] <daftykins> ablest1980: it's not on topic here either way :)
[15:49] <ablest1980> :)
[15:50] <daftykins> given as it's fakraid and a Windows issue
[15:50] <daftykins> *fakeraid
[15:58] <pratik> hi
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> lo
[15:58] <pratik> Hi anyone here ? I am new !
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Many
[15:58] <compdoc> none
[15:59] <pratik> Please chat with me , I m new ! Please i beg you
[15:59] <daftykins> pratik: plenty of people. do you have a support question? chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> pratik: do you have a support issue?
[15:59] <BluesKaj> hi pratik how new are you? :)
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> pratik  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:00] <compdoc> ubottu2 seems to be spamming in an arabic language
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Can someone kick ubottu2 it keeps PMing me....
[16:00] <pratik> Yes I have an issue
[16:00] <BluesKaj> yeah
[16:00] <daftykins> compdoc: yes i just got that and reported it to #ubuntu-ops - which is where such comments belong
[16:00] <daftykins> saying it in here is pointless
[16:00] <BluesKaj> it just pm'd me as well
[16:00] <miriam> .
[16:00] <compdoc> busy little bot
[16:01] <pratik> I want Taskbar at the bottom
[16:01] <pratik> Its at left side currently
[16:01] <pratik> I would be glad if you answer
[16:01] <daftykins> pratik: can't be done
[16:01] <pratik> Oh my God :(
[16:01] <pratik> Why ?
[16:01] <ablest1980> lol
[16:01] <daftykins> it's not an option
[16:01] <pratik> I have another Question too
[16:01] <BluesKaj> is that evem n allowed on unity , it mucks up the look
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> pratik  lxde has the taskbar on the bottom
[16:02] <BluesKaj> as does kde
[16:02] <cfhowlett> pratik xfce task bar where you want it ...
[16:02] <pratik> My laptop Overheats and gets tot :( What to do ?? You are the last hope sir!!
[16:02] <dupingping> Why doesn't my screen lock when I'm logged in as root?
[16:02] <pratik> How to install xfce bar
[16:02] <daftykins> pratik: take it to a shop to be disassembled and cleaned out
[16:02] <dupingping> who can help me?
[16:02] <dupingping> Why doesn't my screen lock when I'm logged in as root?
[16:03] <daftykins> you shouldn't be logged in as root at all
[16:03] <cfhowlett> pratik, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[16:03] <pratik> No , it works pretty well , does not heat
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> dupingping  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[16:03] <pratik> on windows
[16:03] <ActionParsnip>  dupingping logging in as root is far from wise
[16:03] <dupingping> it's 12.04.5 lts.
[16:03] <dupingping> yes.
[16:03] <dupingping> but
[16:03] <dupingping> fedora 20 is support that.
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> pratik: I believe it's called xfpanel
[16:04] <cfhowlett> dupingping, ubuntu is not fedora.
[16:04] <dupingping> sure.
[16:04] <dupingping> but
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> dupingping: ubuntu isn't fedora
[16:04] <daftykins> dupingping: try and keep your messages to fewer lines please.
[16:04] <dupingping> yes
[16:04] <cfhowlett> dupingping, and you CAN run root ... it's just stupid and dangerous to do so.  as it would be in fedora.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> dupingping: use the user you made at install and use sudo. You'll be fine
[16:04] <dupingping> I tried to lock my screen as logged in root.
[16:04] <pratik> No , it works pretty well , does not heat on Windows 7, but as soon as i start using Ubuntu then  it heats like as if i am playing game , in fact i never play game , i m a normal user.
[16:04] <dupingping> At Ubuntu 12.04.5 and Fedora.
[16:05] <dupingping> So Fedora20 is running well.
[16:05] <dupingping> But Ubuntu.
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> pratik: does the system have a make and model
[16:05] <dupingping> I think that it's gnome-screensaver problem.
[16:05] <cfhowlett> dupingping, fedora is offtopic here.  please stop talking abouut it.
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> dupingping: the community doesn't advise or support logging in as root.
[16:05] <dupingping> I'm talking for Ubuntu.
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> dupingping: see above
[16:06] <pratik> What is an issue with Ubuntu overheating my lappie ? I didnt get it , sorry if you  think i am wasting time ,but i could not get this sort out.
[16:06] <dupingping> Then gnome-screensaver is not support root?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> pratik: does the system have a make and model?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> dupingping: logging in to X as root is not advised or supprted
[16:06] <sindarina> dupingping: You should not be logging in as root, period. Ubuntu disables it by default, for good reason. So if you want to go against the defaults, you are kind of on your own.
[16:07] <pratik> I dont know what is make , model , Ok its Sony Vaio E series 15 inch lappie
[16:07] <dupingping> yes, but
[16:07] <dupingping> I think that you can help me with good security.
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> dupingping: it's not good for security and is why it's disabled. I'm sure that the developers of Ubuntu know a LOT more about Linux and security and have set the OS up in such a way on purpose. But you know better....right
[16:08] <cfhowlett> dupingping, running as root is BAD SECURITY!!!!
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> pratik: can you pastebin the output of: sudo dmidecode -t 1; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> dupingping: the OS doesn't work so well as root because it is configured to run as a user using sudo. This is on purpose
[16:10] <pratik> Anyways you built an amazing Operating System , I dumped Windows forever  and switched forever to Ubuntu.By the way I am software developer by Profession , a LAMP stack PHP dev.
[16:10] <sindarina> Right, Trusty kernel question. Recent kernels seem to have changed something where '/[aio]' shows up for as a deleted file in use, when checked with 'checkrestart', even after a clean reboot. This is true for mysql, and nginx. Has anyone else seen this?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> pratik: that's not what I asked for
[16:11] <pratik> @ActionParsnip , please dont be rude !
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> pratik: I wasn't. I was pointing out fact
[16:12] <pratik> pratik@pratik-SVE15116ENB:~$ sudo dmidecode -t 1; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[16:12] <pratik> # dmidecode 2.12
[16:12] <pratik> SMBIOS 2.7 present.
[16:12] <pratik> Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
[16:12] <pratik> System Information
[16:12] <pratik> 	Manufacturer: Sony Corporation
[16:12] <pratik> 	Product Name: SVE15116ENB
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> pratik: use a pastebin please. Then you don't spam the channel
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> pratik: I did mention it in my initial request
[16:13] <pratik> I am new heree i dont know what is post bin and all that
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> pratik: then ask...
[16:14] <daftykins> !paste | pratik
[16:14] <dupingping> I like Ubuntu 12.04 lts.
[16:14] <dupingping> And I'm using it now.
[16:14] <dupingping> I like all of the features of Ubuntu. But only one.
[16:15] <pratik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9868436/
[16:15] <cfhowlett> dupingping, please continue chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> pratik: copy the text and paste it in http://pastie.org. when the address in the address bar changes, copy the url and paste in the channel
[16:15] <dupingping> cfhowlett, it's chit?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> pratik: just like that
[16:15] <dupingping> why do you think so?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> pratik: ok and the system runs hot?
[16:16] <cfhowlett> dupingping, do you have a technical support issue?  no?  then ubuntu-offtopic please.
[16:16] <dupingping> cfhowlett, it's not technical issue?
[16:17] <pratik> Yes , it is ok when i use win 7 , but dont know what happens with ubuntu . Is this an issue exists in Ubuntu?
[16:17] <cfhowlett> !details | dupingping
[16:17] <ubuntunoob> dupingping: if you have a technical issue with ubuntu you should clearly state it
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> pratik: if you run: sudo lshw -C display    do you see an Intel GPU and an Intel GPU?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Oops
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Intel and an Nvidia
[16:19] <pratik> I use AMD GPU , i typed it shows -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9868484/
[16:20] <paolo_> ciao a tutti
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> pratik: install the proprietary video driver using additional drivers. You are using the open source driver
[16:21] <fastputty> hello guys, i recently got a huge DDOS on one of my server here. IS there a way to automatically switch my eth0 ip when network failed ??
[16:22] <fastputty> i got a /28 ip range and would like to use of it
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> fastputty: is eth0 getting an IP from your ISO?  Or does it get an IP from a router?
[16:23] <pratik> How do i install AMD drivers for linux ? It was pretty easy on windows , i m afraid i will swich back to Windows 7
[16:23] <cfhowlett> !amd | pratik
[16:24] <pratik> then ?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> pratik: there is an application for it in system settings.
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> pratik: what do you mean "then ?"
[16:24] <daftykins> !ati | pratik read here
[16:24] <pratik> What is its name ?
[16:24] <Tzunamii> pratik: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CEIQtwIwBQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DevqpassbyqA&ei=mRjFVIjrFoK7ygPl1oG4DQ&usg=AFQjCNHjefkjUw95m23sOlWOy91F-U24Dw&sig2=e11oAYGMPINQsspU7AnIyQ&bvm=bv.84349003,d.bGQ
[16:24] <Tzunamii> Sorry lads for the long link
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> pratik: "additional drivers"
[16:25] <BluesKaj> pratik, look in the software center for AMD Catalyst
[16:25] <fastputty> ActionParsnip: IP from host
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> pratik: try being bolder with your OS.
[16:25] <fastputty> i got a range of /28 to play with
[16:25] <fastputty> all ip on that range works
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> fastputty: so it's not a  192.168.0.x address?
[16:26] <pratik> Hi i checked there is no "Additional driver" field in system settings
[16:27] <fastputty> nop it is not
[16:27] <Tzunamii> pratik: just check the link above, please (Youtube video on how to install the driver)
[16:27] <pratik> Ok thanks
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> pratik: search in Dash for "jockey"
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> pratik: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lmZKKqqNJ4Y/TohISl6EzVI/AAAAAAAABAo/nQFs-2QMMpY/s1600/dash-jockey-additional-drivers.png
[16:28] <pratik> What is Dash ?
[16:28] <pratik> Search in dash ?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> pratik: yes
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> pratik: press your Windows key. Dash shows up
[16:29] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: it hasn't been called jockey for a while now afaik
[16:29] <daftykins> though, my mistake if it still works
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> !find jockey
[16:30] <dupingping> there is no man who can help me?
[16:30] <pratik> Oh thanks I got the app
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> dupingping  with whatN
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> dupingping: use the OS as it is designed and you won't have any issues
[16:33] <daftykins> dupingping: you haven't asked an actual question yet.
[16:36] <pratik> Hi -> http://postimg.org/image/8csam0hh7/
[16:37] <pratik> What do i do further?
[16:37] <k1l> pratik: what is the task? install amd driver?
[16:38] <daftykins> pratik: pick one, like the middle one.
[16:38] <pratik> :( dont make me confused please , which 1 should i choose out of 3?
[16:38] <pratik> I dont know
[16:38] <k1l> the middle one
[16:39] <pratik> Yes , I have to install AMD driver ,
[16:39] <pratik> Thanks , i m going for middle
[16:39] <daftykins> pratik: i did say the middle one...
[16:39] <daftykins> well done
[16:40] <dupingping> hi
[16:40] <pratik> Was that a reason , my Laptop was consuming more Battery on Ubuntu , but it was having proper battery life on Win 7 ?
[16:41] <pratik> Is there battery life problem on Ubuntu ?
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> pratik: the GPU wasn't running correctly as the driver wasn't correct
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> pratik: battery life is fine in Ubuntu. You just haven't added drivers. It's like installing Windows but not adding drivers for sound then asking "is sound an issue in Windows?"
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> pratik: it's absolute nonsense
[16:43] <pratik> Ok i think Ubuntu should have auto suggested me for Video drivers ! nevertheless i will see how it works after installing vid drivers.
[16:43] <OerHeks> Windows would.
[16:43] <dupingping> buy
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> pratik: it does for me but I don't use AMD stuff
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: does it do that now?
[16:45] <pratik> I must say your knowledge of Linux commands is Extreme ! You are great software developer !
[16:45] <Nixus> my Xubuntu 14.04 does an instant shutdown, then power up again when I press the power button. Any help is appreciated. Thank you ! It's a fresh install BTW
[16:45] <Ribes> ciao
[16:45] <OerHeks> ActionParsnip, sure, windows gives a driver with updates. Neverless Ubuntu/linux gives you a choise to use opensource drivers only, no demand.
[16:45] <Ribes> !list
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: cool. I've not used Windows on the desktop for years now
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> pratik  http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html
[16:47] <pratik> Thanks !
[16:48] <dgonix> Кто ставил Ubuntu 15.04 Alpha 2 Releases
[16:48] <cfhowlett> !ru | dgonix,
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> pratik: better?
[16:48] <pratik> I will try that out
[16:49] <Nixus> anyone?
[16:50] <cfhowlett> !ask | Nixus
[16:50] <dgonix> Who has set himself the Ubuntu 15.04 Alpha 2 Releases?
[16:50] <Nixus> !ask | Nixus
[16:50] <cfhowlett> !vivid | dgonix,
[16:51] <Nixus> ask to ask?
[16:51] <cfhowlett> Nixus, sorry.  patience.
[16:51] <daftykins> Nixus: no, just ask the question. read what ubottu said
[16:51] <daftykins> oh you did ask.
[16:51] <dgonix> Yeah , I bet I like it
[16:52] <cfhowlett> dgonix, discussion in #ubuntu+1
[16:52] <pratik> I would like to ask , generally how much bettery life should be(in hours) when working on  Ubuntu?
[16:52] <EriC^^> pratik: it depends on your laptop
[16:53] <pratik> I have sony vaio E series
[16:53] <EriC^^> pratik: check manufacturer's specifications
[16:53] <cfhowlett> pratik, installing the proper drivers is advised
[16:53] <achilles> hi, i'm installing 14.04.1 from the minimal image on a usb stick.  install fails at base install first with warnings like "Debootstrap warning. Warning: couldn't download package perl" for about a dozen packages.  looking at the console output, i see things like "debconf-copydb: Cannot open file /target/var/cache/debconf/config.dat-new: No such file or directory"
[16:53] <OerHeks> depends on what you do with the system, better batterylife is such a marketing thing
[16:53] <pratik> It lasts for 2.5 hr on Win 7 , but 1.5 to 2 hr on Ubuntu i observed
[16:54] <mk2soldier> Hi guys, how can I renew the IP address assigned from the router (DHCP) to my PC? In network settings I select Method: Automatic (DHCP) but even after removing and reinserting the ethernet cable I still get the previous address (initially manually assigned from me) in fact the DHCP address pool should start from 192.168.1.11 and I get 192.168.1.5 Thank you very much for your time.. Sorry for my bad english..
[16:54] <achilles> indeed, the directory /target/var/cache/debconf doesn't even exist
[16:54] <EriC^^> pratik: that would be maybe because of the gpu or something
[16:54] <EriC^^> i get around the same on both win and ubuntu, a lousy 2hours hp pavilion g6
[16:55] <OerHeks> pratik, so without driver you have 1.5 hour ? now test again.
[16:55] <EriC^^> i have an older dell that gets 7 hours
[16:55] <pratik> I am installing Drivers from APP called Jocky . Will it improve my lappie's battery life ?
[16:56] <jan_> i'am serach for a logo maker for Ubuntu, is ther a programm for ??
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> jan_  try GIMP
[16:57] <cfhowlett> jan_gimp, inkscape, blender, pencil, krita ..
[16:57] <jan_> ok
[16:58] <OerHeks> mk2soldier, strange, you get a IP outside the pool, maybe restart your router?
[16:58] <jan_> but a serach a programm with a wizard ...
[16:58] <cfhowlett> jan_, sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-graphics          for the full meal deal.
[16:58] <evoltech> Hello all!  I am attempting to install Ubuntu 14.04 on a GPT encrypted root partition and encrypted swap.  I do not want to use the full disk so I use the custum installed. After I get all the partiions installed correctly the installer continues.  When I eventually reboot its like there is no grub and eventually the BiOS reports no OS found.  Can any one help me out here?
[17:00] <mk2soldier> OerHeks: thank you now I try
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  nice tip!
[17:00] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, :)
[17:02] <chebit> hi
[17:02] <Pheetard> Hey guys. Having some trouble getting my webcam to work.
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> Pheetard  does it work with cheese (the program, not the food)
[17:04] <Pheetard> It's a built-in webcam on a compac laptop (Presario CQ60, if it helps), which i'd assume is attached by some kind of internal USB like the memory card slot.
[17:05] <Pheetard> but it's not listed in lsusb's output
[17:07] <Pheetard> "dmesg| grep uvc" returns some stuff, though, which seems to indicate that the OS knows the camera's there.
[17:09] <Pheetard> but cheese doesn't detect it
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> Pheetard  what's the output of    lsusb|pastebinit
[17:11] <basic> Maybe this helps you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124240/how-do-i-make-the-webcam-on-a-compaq-presario-cq60-notebok-work
[17:12] <Pheetard> thanks!
[17:13] <basic> You're welcome
[17:15] <Pheetard> hmmm, nope, but now i've got an error message, which gives me something to work with.
[17:17] <snwr34p3r> my mouse flickers and disappears  whats a quick fix so i dont have to google
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> snwr34p3r  an usb mouse?
[17:17] <snwr34p3r> yea it works
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> snwr34p3r  sime issue with a cable mouse?
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> same*
[17:18] <snwr34p3r> it doesnt die or cut out the pointer just flickers and when i go screen to screen it will disappear if i move mouse around it comes back
[17:19] <snwr34p3r> tried other ports and a different mouse its the same like its not be drawn properly
[17:21] <beisheim> hi
[17:21] <beisheim> hi
[17:22] <beisheim> is there somebody?
[17:22] <k1l> beisheim: yes
[17:24] <basic> @beisheim yea
[17:25] <dexter1> :)
[17:28] <snwr34p3r> anyone familiar with port forwarding and alfa wifi setups ?
[17:30] <torito> help addbutton
[17:34] <daftykins> snwr34p3r: how is that ubuntu related?
[17:34] <vifino> Hello, I tried to install sflphone, and I am wondering why there is no JACK audio option, even though the version should have it.
[17:35] <snwr34p3r> well you know its so busy in here i didnt feel an off topic question would get anyones panties in a bunch but guess i was wrong
[17:35] <FailBit> question. I created a PGP key using the "Keys and Passwords" dialog but it never appeared in the list
[17:35] <FailBit> is this a known issue?
[17:36] <k1l> FailBit: generating a pgp key can take some time.  and with some time i mean longer than 10 minutes
[17:36] <FailBit> it takes that long to generate it, or to publish it?
[17:36] <MortezaE> Hi, I need some command to tell to my friend to find out which version of ubuntu is he running
[17:36] <tonyt> uname -a
[17:36] <tonyt> to see the version
[17:36] <k1l> FailBit: to generate it. after that you need to publish it by loading it onto a keyserver
[17:36] <daftykins> snwr34p3r: that's not really a good attitude to approach volunteer channels with. feel free to take it to ##networking
[17:37] <xangua> MortezaE: lsb_release -a
[17:37] <MortezaE> tonyt, it's about kernel
[17:37] <k1l> MortezaE: "lsb_release -a" will talk about the ubuntu version
[17:37] <MortezaE> thank u xangua k1l
[17:38] <vifino> MortezaE: lsb_release -a for ubuntu version, uname -r for kernel version.
[17:38] <MortezaE> t u :)
[17:38] <snwr34p3r> daftykins: well it was a harmless question instead of your mocking reply you could have said go to ##networking, thank you either way for the correct channel to ask my question though
[17:38] <FailBit> I have decent hardware; htop is showing that /usr/bin/gpg2 is actually sleeping
[17:39] <FailBit> but
[17:39] <FailBit> ah
[17:39] <FailBit> there it is
[17:39] <FailBit> sorry.
[17:39] <daftykins> snwr34p3r: channel policy is what it is, i'm sorry you chose to take offense by my statements, but that is down to you i'm afraid :)
[17:46] <wawrek> is there a way of checking the size of a file to be downloaded from a website (before starting the download)?
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> wawrek  when you start the download, it asks where to put it, thereby showing the size
[17:50] <parsnip`> test
[17:51] <TheCommieDuck> Originally my touchpad wasn't detected...after upgrading the kernel from 3.13 to 3.16 it's now listed as 'UNKNOWN' by xinput (and doesn't support multitouch and it has a weird graphical artifact under the cursor..along with a squashed cursor). any idea?
[17:52] <MortezaE> parsnip`, Hello dear :)
[17:52] <parsnip`> Hi :)
[17:52] <wawrek> MonkeyDust: I meant programatically. I made a web scraper that downloads images. I would like to stop the download if the image is too big
[17:53] <MortezaE> pars
[17:54] <parsnip`> Is TeXLive -> full install best way to install LaTeX on Ubuntu? I had a mess of a time on my last kubuntu install.
[17:55] <bekks> parsnip`: It's the most convinient way, yes.
[17:55] <TheCommieDuck> oh, and cinnamon seems to be using 50% cpu >.<
[17:56] <parsnip`> What is alternative? If I don't want to use "full", what is cleanest way to deal with random packages? ~/texmf with care?
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> wawrek  in what coding language? html?
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> oh, web scraper
[17:57] <wawrek> shell
[17:58] <wawrek> I use convert (iamgemagick ) or wget to download images...
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> wawrek  then maybe ask in #bash
[17:58] <wawrek> MonkeyDust: thanks, that is a good point. i will.
[18:00] <TheCommieDuck> Ooh. changing from xorg to the fthingy drivers fixed the mouse display and software rendering.
[18:00] <TheCommieDuck> but I still can't seem to get multitouch on my touchpad.
[18:01] <adam__>  
[18:16] <HEROnymous> Hey folks, I'm going to be setting up dual boot with windows.  I've got ubuntu on a drive already, and have another drive that I'm going to install windows on.  is there a means by which to just add a grub entry that boots windows off the windows drive, or do I need to get freaky to make it work?
[18:20] <DJ_Unibob> It would be easier to install windows to a partition first, then install ubuntu that way, otherwise windows boot loader won't even see grub
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> HEROnymous  windows installation ruins grub
[18:21] <fbsd> hi
[18:21] <DJ_Unibob> I had a heck of a time fixing grub yesterday, then again, my optical drive might be on it's last legs.
[18:22] <Dudytz> is anyone know a gui program to "easy" manage ssh tunels?
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> Dudytz  gigolo
[18:22] <Dudytz> MonkeyDust: thanks!
[18:24] <Jef91> What is the best way to install the latest version of openoffice.org on Ubuntu?
[18:24] <Jef91> Is there a PPA?
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> Jef91  ppa's are not supported here, better stick to the repo's
[18:26] <OerHeks> Jef91, there is, but might not be stable, so not the best way. best way is to wait for updates.
[18:26] <OerHeks> applies for the bodhi-thing too
[18:27] <Tzunamii> Jef91: Check your private messages.
[18:28] <OerHeks> !pm | Tzunamii
[18:28] <Tzunamii> OerHeks: I was giving him some advice. Not asking a Q.
[18:29] <Tzunamii> OerHeks: Now go and have a beer and point your finger at someone else
[18:29] <OerHeks> That factoid should be turned around
[18:30] <HEROnymous> MonkeyDust, ok, the ubuntu drive won't even be in the computer when I install windows.
[18:31] <HEROnymous> after windows is installed, I'll reinsert the drive with ubuntu, and the bios will subsequently boot from it, which will bring up grub.  ideally, I'd like to be able to select booting from the other drive - which has windows on it - from the grub menu.
[18:32] <OerHeks> HEROnymous, that would be easy then, boot ubuntu, sudo update-grub # and windows should be added, but not sure windows boots correctly as it expects to be the only hdd
[18:33] <OerHeks> !gub
[18:33] <OerHeks> !grub
[18:33] <HEROnymous> oh, it'll automagically add windows if I just run update-grub?  I don't need to manually add it to any configs first?
[18:36] <OerHeks> HEROnymous, nope, that will do
[18:36] <GeekDude> Hey, stpid question
[18:36] <HEROnymous> cool, thanks
[18:37] <GeekDude> I have a desktop upstairs running ubuntu server
[18:37] <GeekDude> Can I remotely reinstall ubuntu server?
[18:37] <bekks> GeekDude: Yes.
[18:37] <ikonia> no
[18:37] <ikonia> really ?
[18:37] <bekks> Why not? :)
[18:37] <ikonia> how are you going to re-install something without access to a console
[18:37] <ikonia> console
[18:37] <HEROnymous> ikonia, there're lots of means by which to access a console remotelt
[18:38] <ikonia> that wasn't the question
[18:38] <megachaos> hey people
[18:38] <GeekDude> hey megachaos
[18:38] <megachaos> lol ^
[18:38] <ikonia> lol ?
[18:38] <megachaos> his name
[18:39] <spooky_action> Yay! it's resyncing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9870287/
[18:39] <HEROnymous> GeekDude, do you have any means by which to access the console remotely?  also, why specifically do you want/need to reinstall it?
[18:40] <GeekDude> I've got ssh on it, and I don't really need to reinstall it. It was more of a hypothetical
[18:40] <GeekDude> I'd probably just actually walk upstairs if I wanted to reinstall it
[18:40] <ikonia> GeekDude: you can't do it realistically without access to the console outside of the OS
[18:41] <ikonia> despite what people are saying
[18:41] <GeekDude> I'd imagine there'd be someway to install it onto a second partition while I'm still running my current installation
[18:41] <GeekDude> then set grub to boot the second partition and reboot
[18:42] <ikonia> GeekDude: debootstrap for example, but it's not an easy option
[18:42] <ikonia> hence "realistic"
[18:43] <GeekDude> huh. Yeah, I'll probably just walk upstairs later
[18:43] <GeekDude> That does look like what I was looking for, so thanks
[18:43] <parsnip`> Hi, my .Xresources is not affecting apps opened from launcher in kubuntu.
[18:44] <statik> hi there, could someone help a linux noob setup imagemagick?
[18:44] <ikonia> define setup
[18:45] <statik> ikonia, well, I'm trying to install imagemagick by compiling it with hdri support
[18:45] <ikonia> does the repo not contain it?
[18:45] <statik> with hdri support? I think not
[18:45] <ikonia> have you checked?
[18:46] <alishim> hello :)
[18:48] <statik> ikonia, I think I dun goofed, running identify -list configure | grep DELEGATES returns identify: UnableToOpenConfigureFile `configure.xml'
[18:48] <ikonia> statik: ?
[18:49] <ikonia> what is the end goal of that command ?
[18:49] <statik> ikonia, to check if my imagemagick has hdri support
[18:50] <ikonia> I'm not sure, but that doens't look the right syntax
[18:50] <statik> ikonia, sry was checking if I had png support
[18:53] <Apachez> anyone else in here experience problems to return from full screen when running up2date google chrome in up2date ubuntu 14.10? In this particular case on a NUC running Intel HD 5000 graphics
[18:54] <ProfessorKaos64> is there a way to refresh ppa package lists without doing a system update?
[18:54] <ikonia> apt-get update will download the list from the repos
[18:54] <ProfessorKaos64> true, just trying to avoid other packages from being updated at that time
[18:55] <ikonia> apt-get update packagename
[18:55] <Apachez> it will just update the database
[18:55] <Apachez> not the packages themselfs
[18:55] <ikonia> it won't update any actual packages though, just the info
[18:55] <ProfessorKaos64> oh ok thanks, so apt-get upgrade is what the software gui updater sorta does
[18:55] <ProfessorKaos64> ?
[18:56] <ikonia> update and upgrade are two differen commands
[18:56] <ikonia> different
[18:56] <ikonia> make sure you use the right one
[18:57] <ProfessorKaos64> oh I've been using Linux and many distros for a while, just trying to be careful. I have an automatic script to setup retro emulation. Just being careful I don't update the other emulators while I install the "unstable" scummvm from libretro
[18:58] <parsnip`> any ideas on the .Xresources problem. where would i find where the launcher file is?
[19:03] <hotmedal> I'm running Gnome 3.10.4, I was running stellarium and it is not responding, I ended the process from the system manager, but the display won't go away and the mouseover text that was displaying now persists across all workspaces. How do I clear it?
[19:03] <k1l_> try "xkill"
[19:05] <hotmedal> xkill is so awesome, thanks k1l_ !
[19:10] <atlantis> hi ikonia
[19:10] <atlantis> hi I_Am_Bored
[19:12] <I_Am_Bored> atlantis: Hi boring guy
[19:13] <k1l_> atlantis: I_Am_Bored please dont spoil this channel. keep it to technical ubuntu support in here please. thanks
[19:15] <I_Am_Bored> What the fuck have I done wrong ._.
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> I_Am_Bored  no profane language here
[19:15] <ikonia> I_Am_Bored: I suggest you read the rules of this channel before talking again
[19:15] <ikonia> I_Am_Bored: there is no bad language allowed
[19:15] <ikonia> !guidelines | I_Am_Bored
[19:16] <BluesKaj> using bad language for one thing, I_Am_Bored
[19:17] <BluesKaj> I_Am_Bored, you wanted a reaction , now you have one, now what's your issue with ubuntu ?
[19:18] <I_Am_Bored> Not gonna waste my time on that
[19:18] <I_Am_Bored> I haven't done anything wrong
[19:19] <I_Am_Bored> lol
[19:19] <ikonia> I_Am_Bored: no problem, just check the guidelines link before continuing any discussion
[19:19] <I_Am_Bored> ikonia: Not gonna do that
[19:21] <BluesKaj> let hum be bored somewhere else :)
[19:21] <BluesKaj> him
[19:22] <EsoRotica> Hey guys, every now and then i ssh into a computer without a user logged into it and I cant start x11vnc. Is there a way to log a user in graphically from the command line?
[19:22] <EsoRotica> something long the lines of lightdm -l -u someone -p
[19:26] <uber_hulk> Hi
[19:26] <uber_hulk> What is package for terminus *medium*?
[19:26] <Nixus2> i have a bug when I shut the lid on my laptop, the cursor disappears. But, to get it back, i have to exit GUI (Ctrl alt f1) then go back to GUI (Ctrl alt f7). Can i do make this automated?
[19:27] <uber_hulk> I found regular/bold etc but not the medium
[19:34] <OerHeks> uber_hulk, terminus is not in medium size, as far as i see
[19:34] <smurfy_> stevec - are you there?
[19:34] <OerHeks> regular is pretty medium
[19:35] <uber_hulk> OerHeks: i see how do i set it in urxvt?
[19:37] <OerHeks> uber_hulk, no idea, never used urxvt
[19:37] <uber_hulk>  OerHeks use xterm?
[19:37] <Nixus2> Is there a command that opens and closes the non-gui terminal? Thanks
[19:38] <OerHeks> just the regular gnometerminal, fonts can be editted there in profile.
[19:39] <coolomatics> Nixus2, you mean something like ctrl+alt+f1 to f6?
[19:39] <OerHeks> Nixus2, ctrl alt F2 brings you in console, and ctrl alt f7 brings you back to the desktop
[19:39] <Nixus2> Yeh
[19:40] <Nixus2> I want it to do ctrl alt f1, then ctrl f7
[19:40] <uber_hulk> OerHeks: how do i edit background of gnometerminal?
[19:40] <Nixus2> I have a bug that makes thr cursor disappear after i shut the lid of my laptop
[19:41] <Nixus2> But i can use help.ubuntu.com/community/LaptopLidAndDockScripts
[19:41] <OerHeks> uber_hulk, same, edit > profile > tab background
[19:41] <uber_hulk> I see
[19:42] <Nixus2> Or a virtual key press command?
[19:46] <funkster> Is it possible to check if the crednetial of a wireless network work without connecting?  i am looking to have one wireless card and run a access point and then check if credentials of another wireless network work. anyone know?
[19:47] <OerHeks> funkster, better ask in ##networking or such channel, it is not an ubuntu issue.
[19:47] <OerHeks> my wild guess is no.
[19:47] <bekks> funkster: You cant check that.
[19:48] <funkster> how does lifx do that then, hmmm maybe they have two network devices then.
[19:48] <bekks> funkster: whats is "lifx"?
[19:48] <funkster> google
[19:48] <bekks> Ah, ok, nothing to care about then. Good luck.
[19:50] <DJones> funkster: How does a lightbulb (www.lifx.co) have anything to do with ubuntu (thats the first link on google)
[19:52] <ubuntu> hello
[19:52] <funkster> DJones: it doesn't nor did I say it did. I am trying to connect to wireless networks and run a access point ON ubuntu, with one network device. lifx runs linux and does similar tasks thats why i mentioned it.
[19:55] <DJones> funkster: ok, so why say "Google" immediatley after you were as asked "What is lifx"
[19:56] <DJones> funkster: Please point to specific links rather than just saying "google" they have lots of links, most are irrelevant to the question aty hanbd
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> funkster  we don't know what lifx is, we can help you faster if you tell us
[20:08] <funkster> i mentioned lifx does WHAT i already explained.
[20:09] <funkster> knowing what lifx does helps no one, i already explain what im looking to do, i mentioned it in passing as, curiosity of how are they doing that.
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> funkster  great, so what's lifx exactly
[20:09] <funkster> google
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> so lifx is google?
[20:10] <funkster> you are annoying.
[20:10] <EriC^^> ooooh i want one
[20:11] <ben_g_> Hi
[20:11] <ben_g_> Because of a windows update, the Grub bootloader got turned off again, and I want to re-enable it
[20:11] <EriC^^> !fixgrub | ben_g_
[20:12] <ben_g_> The previous time this happened, it turned out that Grub was still installed, but in the boot order the windows bootloder was in front of Grub (or something similar)
[20:12] <EriC^^> ben_g_: do you have uefi?
[20:13] <DJones> funkster: As I said, google first link for lifx is a lightbulb, if you're not prepared to help by giving detailed links & information, I doubt you'll get any support
[20:13] <ben_g_> EriC^^: yes
[20:14] <DJones> funkster: We cant help you unless you're willing to provide relevant information
[20:14] <EriC^^> ben_g_: change the boot order with sudo efibootmgr, type sudo efibootmgr -v to get the list, then sudo efibootmgr -o <new boot order>
[20:15] <ben_g_> EriC^^: is there also a way to do that from within windows?
[20:15] <EriC^^> ben_g_: i guess, not sure how though
[20:15] <ben_g_> (I'm currently stuck in Windows)
[20:15] <EriC^^> ben_g_: do you have a live usb?
[20:15] <EriC^^> ben_g_: press esc when the pc boots, and select ubuntu instead of os manager
[20:15] <ben_g_> EriC^^: I should still have one lying around somewhere
[20:16] <EriC^^> ben_g_: you should still be able to get into ubuntu somehow using a key when the pc boots
[20:16] <ben_g_> ok
[20:16] <ben_g_> I'll try that, brb
[20:16] <EriC^^> ok
[20:18] <zorgborg> Hi, I updated on friday I think, updates to some display things (sorry I'll try to remember), and since then certain programs will maximise, but not be visible (they are running), ideas?
[20:19] <Pyracantha> hey room
[20:22] <Fun> hi folks
[20:22] <Fun> whats the way to safely unplug usb device?
[20:23] <Fun> or unlike win i can simply physically remove it?
[20:23] <Pyracantha> hi Fun
[20:23] <SchrodingersScat> Fun: could unmount it from your file manager, there should be an ejection symbol next to the drive location.
[20:23] <Fun> cool thanks
[20:24] <Fun> also whats the close enough analog of Visual Studio in Linux?
[20:24] <SchrodingersScat> Fun: at least that's recommended, if you feel like just ripping it out you can live your life how you choose.  There are also other ways to unmount it.
[20:24] <zorgborg> Fun: in the unity launcher, right click the usb drive symbol and select eject/safely remove
[20:24] <Fun> yes I used disk unplug :)
[20:25] <Fun> ty
[20:25] <ben_g> EriC^^: There is no way I can boot into Ubuntu by holding down a key during boot with the Windows bootloader active, but I found the live USB and I'm in the live version now.
[20:25] <ben_g> So what were the commands to change the bootloader again?
[20:26] <EriC^^> ben_g: ok type sudo efibootmgr -v
[20:26] <kittyfirekitty> I am having a problem booting a usb drive that i've used rufus to prepare and try to boot, i am able to change my secure boot settings to get into grub, but when I attempt booting a menu selection it just black screen or returns to a frozen grub menu, i've tried using the "nosplash" and saw a "unable to terminate efi servies" before the screen froze, i've tried using nosplash/noefi boot paramaters and still have no luck booting 
[20:27] <SchrodingersScat> Fun: can check list sites like this, then check your repos to see if it's readily available: http://alternativeto.net/software/visual-studio/?platform=linux
[20:27] <ben_g> EriC^^: sudo: efibootmgr: command not found
[20:27] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[20:28] <SchrodingersScat> Fun: can also check your repositories using apt-cache search keyword   and you may find something useful, synaptic and software center have groups you can search through.
[20:28] <ben_g> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9871640/
[20:29] <BluesKaj_> kittyfirekitty, try using the bootsequence to make the usb device boot first in the uefi/bios
[20:30] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: I have win8.1, so when i say that i've gotten grub to load i'm past that point
[20:30] <EriC^^> ben_g: sudo efibootmgr -o 2001,0000,0003,0004,2003,2002
[20:31] <havoc_hive> How do I enable port 22 for ssh?
[20:31] <EriC^^> havoc_hive: you mean how do you install openssh?
[20:32] <BluesKaj_> yes kittyfirekitty but grub won't show an uninstalled OS, the device has be first in the boot sequnce in order to boot
[20:32] <jatt> nothing, it's the default
[20:32] <ben_g> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9871692/
[20:32] <ben_g> EriC^^: Should the timeout be ?
[20:32] <ben_g> *0
[20:33] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: grub shows whats in the grub menu.lst config file, i'm familiar with the legacy grub but am not having luck with efi grub
[20:33] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: i have not uninstalled any os, i'm tring to boot a live usb drive so i can descide if i want to install or not
[20:34] <EriC^^> ben_g: yeah it's ok
[20:34] <ben_g> ok
[20:34] <havoc_hive> EriC^^: Im using Putty from a test terminal to connect ssh to ubuntu in vm
[20:34] <EriC^^> ben_g: try to restart
[20:34] <havoc_hive> EriC^^: and i think there is a closed port 22 cause it says access denied or something like that
[20:35] <BluesKaj_> kittyfirekitty, like I said don't look for the usb device in grub , you won't find it there , you need to set the boot sequence in the uefi/bios
[20:36] <SchrodingersScat> havoc_hive: have you installed openssh-server on the machine you are trying to connect to?
[20:36] <havoc_hive> EriC^^: yep
[20:36] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: I have actually moved the boot sequence up for my usb drive while it was inserted in the computer, any time i re-enable the secure boot and have the drive inserted i get an error saying its skipping this unsigned ...
[20:37] <havoc_hive> EriC^^: nvm i figured it out. thank you =)
[20:37] <EriC^^> havoc_hive: :)
[20:37] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: again i'm past that point in my configuration, i have grub loaded, i can browse my files and try to load the kernel but it crashes/freezes
[20:37] <BluesKaj_> kittyfirekitty, disable secure boot in the uefi/bios as well
[20:37] <ben_g> EriC^^: It still goes straight to Windows
[20:38] <kittyfirekitty> i did, i have to re-enable it to load windows8.1 without using the "bitlocker" b.s.
[20:38] <bekks> kittyfirekitty: For getting rid of bitlocker, you have to reinstall Windows.
[20:39] <kittyfirekitty> bekks: not happening till i descide if ubuntu is going to run acceptably on this tablet first
[20:39] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: do you want me to detail what i've already done so you can get on the same page?
[20:40] <BluesKaj_> I thought you wanted to boot into a usb device containing an OS image that you wanted to install on your pc kittyfirekitty, sorry if I misread your initial question
[20:40] <kittyfirekitty> I am having a problem booting a usb drive that i've used rufus to prepare and try to boot, i am able to change my secure boot settings to get into grub, but when I attempt booting a menu selection it just black screen or returns to a frozen grub menu, i've tried using the "nosplash" and saw a "unable to terminate efi servies" before the screen froze, i've tried using nosplash/noefi boot paramaters and still have no luck booting 
[20:42] <EriC^^> ben_g: type sudo efibootmgr -v
[20:43] <ben_g> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9871813/
[20:45] <EriC^^> ben_g: sudo efibootmgr -o 2001,0000,0003,0004,2003,2002
[20:45] <kittyfirekitty> I have also browsed the community forums, lmgtfy and other resources available to me, and have not found anything depicting or even pointing towards my issue
[20:45] <EriC^^> ben_g: then type sudo efibootmgr -v again
[20:45] <EriC^^> kittyfirekitty: did you try nomodeset ? it's worth a shot
[20:45] <OerHeks> kittyfirekitty, bitlocker is not going to help you, installing ubuntu. remove bitlocker ( that requires reinstall windows) then it should work
[20:46] <BluesKaj_> kittyfirekitty, I hate to be rude , but what has your grub issue got to do with booting into a usb device ?
[20:46] <kittyfirekitty> OerHeks: i can boot to grub, i can't load my kernel it gives me an error or blank screen with no error that i've left for 15 min with nothing happening
[20:46] <ben_g> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9871825/
[20:47] <EriC^^> ben_g: ok, that's odd it switched back to windows first by itself
[20:47] <EriC^^> is this a hp laptop?
[20:47] <ben_g> EriC^^: no, Toshiba
[20:47] <Pyracantha> does anyone know of any good beginner guides for new ubuntu users?
[20:48] <EriC^^> ben_g: did you previously rename the grub efi files to get it to work?
[20:48] <EriC^^> your nick seems familiar..
[20:48] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FUEFIBooting&ei=jFbFVMDaJZOtyQTehoC4Dw&usg=AFQjCNFhISiwVSBN22YIqVPKEGx18reoUw&sig2=6W138OKya6RwRPyqLJ0YZA&bvm=bv.84349003,d.aWw
[20:48] <ben_g> EriC^^: I think so, es
[20:48] <EriC^^> ben_g: type sudo parted -l
[20:49] <ben_g> I have no idea how all this stuff works, so both now and last time I was mainly following instructions
[20:49] <ben_g> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9871879/
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> !manual | Pyracantha start here
[20:50] <EriC^^> ben_g: type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[20:50] <ben_g> ok
[20:50] <EriC^^> ben_g: ls -l /mnt/EFI/Boot
[20:51] <BluesKaj_> kittyfirekitty, I suggest you use legacy mode to boot the usb after making it first in the boot sequence, fixing he bit locker issue is something i haven't encountered
[20:51] <Pyracantha> thank you MonkeyDust
[20:51] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: i'm not having an issue with bitlocker at all
[20:51] <ben_g> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9871911/
[20:51] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: i'm booting a usb drive, we can IGNORE bitlocker as its on a drive i'm not even accessing
[20:52] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: i have to use the efi boot loader, there is no legacy mode on this bios
[20:52] <BluesKaj_> ok kittyfirekitty sorry for wasting your time ..
[20:52] <EriC^^> ben_g: yup, they are renamed
[20:52] <OerHeks> kittyfirekitty, secure boot and fastboot disabled?
[20:53] <kittyfirekitty> OerHeks: i can disable secure boot and load grub from my usb drive
[20:53] <EriC^^> ben_g: sudo cp /mnt/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi.backup2
[20:54] <ben_g> ok
[20:54] <EriC^^> ben_g: sudo cp /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi.backup2
[20:54] <ben_g> ok
[20:54] <EriC^^> ben_g: sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[20:54] <EriC^^> ben_g: sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[20:54] <kittyfirekitty> OerHeks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting <-- Display stuck after grub output --> is where i'm at, adding nosplay/noefi to the boot options isn't getting me to any new errors or progress
[20:55] <ben_g> ok
[20:56] <OerHeks> kittyfirekitty, disable fastboot from within windows and try again. if that does not work, i blame it on bitlocker
[20:59] <ben_g> EriC^^: should it work now?
[20:59] <EriC^^> ben_g: yes try to restart
[20:59] <ben_g> ok
[21:00] <weeirc8089> how to execute app in the background with & so it won't output nothing to the console afterwards?
[21:00] <EriC^^> weeirc8089: <program> & > /dev/null 2>&1
[21:01] <lightsa> hi guys, does anyone have an idea for a minimal (puissance requirement) linux distri ?
[21:01] <weeirc8089> e.g. vlc <filename> &    then keeps dumping err msgs garbaging the console for further use
[21:01] <k1l_> lightsa: lubuntu, or a minimal install and then install what you need.
[21:01] <OerHeks> lightsa, lubuntu is lightweight
[21:01] <weeirc8089> EriC^^: what's the meaning of 2>&1 in the end? (redirect stderr too?)
[21:01] <EriC^^> weeirc8089: vlc filename > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[21:02] <lightsa> ye lubuntu is desktop wise but I was looking for something even smaller. the CPU is very weak (old computer)
[21:02] <EriC^^> weeirc8089: yes redirect stderr to stdout
[21:02] <atirl> hi
[21:02] <k1l_> lightsa: lubuntu is build up for old and slow hardware
[21:02] <atirl> how can I search the version available of certain package in the backport repository from the command-line ?
[21:02] <snkcld> this is my command to make a new user: adduser --disabled-password --gecos "" newusername
[21:02] <jatt> weeirc8089: (vlc <filename>  > /dev/null 2>&1 &)
[21:03] <snkcld> how can i also add the user to the group sudo?
[21:03] <Nytram> lightsa try puppy then
[21:03] <lightsa> puppy ? ok gonna check
[21:03] <k1l_> lightsa: and if you want a non ubuntu distri, ask in ##linux :)
[21:03] <Nytram> It doesn't get much lighter than puppy
[21:04] <ben_g> EriC^^: Ubuntu now works, but the Windows entry reloads Grub again. Should it be fixed with "sudo sed -i 's/bootmgfw.efi/bootmgfw.efi.backup/' /boot/grub/grub.cfg"?
[21:05] <ben_g> (I saved that from the previous time)
[21:05] <EriC^^> ben_g: no, since then i found the file i had lost
[21:05] <EriC^^> hold on
[21:06] <EriC^^> ben_g: sudo nano /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft
[21:06] <EriC^^> replace bootmgfw.efi with bootmgfw.efi.backup2
[21:06] <EriC^^> then sudo update-grub
[21:06] <DevonNOG> hello
[21:07] <DevonNOG> hello  anyone
[21:07] <redruum> EriC^^: that only works with grub but not efi
[21:07] <EriC^^> redruum: i dont follow
[21:08] <EriC^^> redruum: that's what os-prober uses to search for microsoft efi files
[21:08] <linuxr> Hi all, I just installed ubuntu using full disk encryption, which really rocks. I have no wonder however how that works, can someone give me some high-level overview about how this is configured? thanks
[21:09] <ben_g> EriC^^: in the line 'if [ -n "$bcd" -a -n "$bootmgfw" ]; then'? Because I don't see anything with the .efi extension in that file.
[21:09] <redruum> EriC^^: uefi boot loader won't be repaired with update grub.
[21:10] <EriC^^> redruum: grub is loading, but we renamed the microsoft efi file to bootmgfw.efi.backup2 so the one it's finding is actually shimx64.efi right now
[21:10] <EriC^^> ben_g: bootmgfw=$(item_in_dir bootmgfw.efi "$efi/$microsoft/$boot")
[21:10] <EriC^^> it should be that line
[21:10] <ben_g> oh oops
[21:12] <ben_g> EriC^^: ok, done
[21:12] <EriC^^> ben_g: ok sudo update-grub
[21:12] <ben_g> EriC^^: Also that. Restart and try?
[21:12] <EriC^^> yes
[21:12] <ben_g> ok
[21:13] <maxwell> hello
[21:14] <maxwell> I am using Remote Desktop Viewer to connect to a Windows Server 2008, but it doesn't connect
[21:15] <maxwell> When I enter the connection info and connect it just blinks black and returns to the normal grey color.
[21:15] <maxwell> no error messages whatsoever
[21:16] <redruum> You turn off all firewalls on ubuntu and Windows maxwell
[21:16] <maxwell> well, it works from my windows computer
[21:16] <redruum> maxwell: You using internal or external IP.
[21:17] <maxwell> internal
[21:18] <maxwell> yea. it works perfectly from windows
[21:18] <redruum> maxwell: turn off all firewalls on Windows. Ubuntu usually is defaulted off.
[21:18] <maxwell> just checked again
[21:20] <redruum> maxwell: what port is the remote desktop server broad casting
[21:20] <maxwell> the normal one
[21:20] <maxwell> 3389 I think it is
[21:21] <bekks> rdp isnt broadcasting, but the default port is 3389.
[21:21] <maxwell> hmmm
[21:21] <maxwell> wait a sec
[21:21] <maxwell> I disabled the firewall and now I can connect
[21:22] <maxwell> but not from Remote Dektop Viewer
[21:22] <maxwell> Remmina Remote Desktop Client
[21:22] <maxwell> it works from there
[21:22] <redruum> maxwell: You need to put :3389 behind the IP
[21:22] <maxwell> the quality is very bad, but sill
[21:23] <maxwell> *still
[21:23] <maxwell> redruum, isnt that the default port?
[21:23] <maxwell> why whould I need to put it?
[21:24] <maxwell> I tried anyway and it didn't work with the port specified
[21:24] <redruum> The port tells the client where the server is broadcasting.
[21:24] <ben_g> EriC^^: It works, thanks (sorry for taking so long, Windows felt that I wanted it to be fast and decided to install some updates)
[21:25] <csgeek> anyone have any ideas how to deal with this:  https://gist.github.com/safaci2000/fc74244d6fa8e29dcc37  I can't seem to remove the old nvidia driver
[21:25] <maxwell> well, in any case, it doesn't work.
[21:25] <bekks> redruum: rdp does not broadcast, you just connect to the server using the port.
[21:26] <maxwell> as far as I know it doesn't broadcast
[21:26] <maxwell> its just a server listening to a port
[21:27] <redruum> maxwell: Windows firewall I think you can tell it what service or application or ports to allow passage. So you can turn on the firewall.
[21:27] <maxwell> redruum, there is obviously a built in allow rule
[21:27] <bekks> redruum: Yes. But thaht doesnt make RDP broadcast. :)
[21:28] <EriC^^> ben_g: great, no problem
[21:28] <maxwell> and it works from this Remmina client thing
[21:30] <maxwell> but it doesn't scale correctly and  dragging isnt working
[21:30] <maxwell> so thats not really a solution
[21:30] <ZA> hi lads & lasses
[21:32] <OerHeks> hi ZA
[21:32] <rypervenche> maxwell: Did you click on the remmina button that allows your keys to bind?
[21:33] <redruum> maxwell: I liked using vnc viewers. Seem easier.
[21:33] <dinet> evening. can anyone recomment a gui filemanager that is not the gnome standard?
[21:34] <maxwell> rypervenche,  what you mean?
[21:34] <k1l_> dinet: thunar
[21:35] <rypervenche> maxwell: I'm not 100% sure if Remmina has the button in RDP, but it does in VNC. There is a button that looks like part of a keyboard, that makes all keys that you press be pressed on the remote machine.
[21:35] <maxwell> well yes
[21:35] <dinet> k1l_: gonna give it a try. thanks
[21:35] <maxwell> the keyboard and nouse work
[21:36] <maxwell> *mouse
[21:36] <maxwell> its just dragging
[21:36] <maxwell> and the color is horrible
[21:36] <maxwell> looks like the 90s
[21:37] <guntbert> maxwell: don't press <enter> so often - you are scrolling the channel faster
[21:37] <redruum> maxwell: VNC client and server. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[21:38] <filly>     irc://freifunk@irc.chemnitz.freifunk.net
[21:38] <maxwell> redruum, this means another server running
[21:38] <maxwell> more resources
[21:38] <maxwell> oh wel
[21:38] <guntbert> filly: don't
[21:38] <OerHeks> filly, yes .. no, please don't spam.
[21:38] <redruum> maxwell: I think it's better.
[21:39] <maxwell> no choice. but VNC doesn't have that much managment
[21:40] <ZA> any one know if there is WAMP for Linux
[21:41] <redruum> maxwell: I think vnc viewers are rdp clients
[21:41] <guntbert> !lamp | ZA
[21:41] <mbalmer> ZA, there is not.
[21:42] <ZA> hmm so lamp can't support PHP?
[21:43] <ZA> but ya will do some goggling im sure there is tons of stuff
[21:44] <k1l_> ZA: on ubuntu you install the packages you need from the official ubuntu repos. see the link the bot gave you for a howto
[21:45] <ZA> alrighty thanks peeps. thanks for help
[21:46] <shoxmalik> hi, linux antivirus link please ??
[21:47] <k1l_> shoxmalik: there is not such a thing like you install on windows. on ubuntu you fix the software that got you the virus.
[21:48] <maxwell> k1l_, theres ClamAV
[21:48] <k1l_> maxwell: yes, scanning for windows viruses. you can use that to clean a windows partition
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> !av | sharjeel
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> oops, tab fail
[21:49] <k1l_> he is already gone
[21:51] <Alex311360> Hello, I'm having trouble with XRDP. I'm trying to control it from another PC on my local network, but when I login the background is some kind of black and white pattern, and the cursor is a X. What do I do?
[21:51] <redruum> maxwell: RDP is native but not secure at all,.unless your connection is secure. If not worried about the man in middle seeing everything use RDP. VNC is very secure. Never compared either side by side.
[21:51] <curiousx> k1l_: idk if this still active but... http://penguinpills.sourceforge.net/
[21:53] <Ben64> vnc isn't secure.....
[21:54] <redruum> Ben64: depends on the settings
[21:55] <redruum> Ben64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[21:55] <Ben64> i know what vnc is
[21:56] <rypervenche> VNC through an SSH tunnel ftw.
[21:56] <redruum> Ben64: https://www.realvnc.com/ and you can use a cell phone.
[21:57] <Alex311360> Can someone please help me with my question?
[21:57] <Alex311360> Also it's pretty funny that when I joined people were already talking about RDP and VNC
[21:57] <Alex311360> is that a popular topic here?
[21:59] <consolidated> Alex311360: welcome to X11
[21:59] <consolidated> wait brain fart
[21:59] <consolidated> X
[21:59] <Ben64> redruum: do you work for vnc or something
[22:00] <Alex311360> still though, what's the problem with my XRDP
[22:00] <redruum> rypervenche: that's overkill for VNC. But needed with RPN
[22:00] <aeon-ltd> Alex311360: if the cursor is an x then you've made it into the x environment but you aren't running a wm/de you'd recognise like unity
[22:00] <consolidated> Alex311360: thats Xwindows without a windows manager
[22:00] <Alex311360> oh
[22:00] <Alex311360> how exactly do i fix it?
[22:00] <aeon-ltd> Alex311360: configure it to launch one
[22:00] <Ben64> Alex311360: are you trying to control the main desktop or have a 2nd one
[22:01] <redruum> Here is what ubuntu recommends. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Clients Ben64
[22:01] <Ben64> Alex311360: because right now, you're on the path to creating a second desktop
[22:01] <Alex311360> Main desktop, and please be a little bit patient, i'm a bit of a newbie
[22:01] <Ben64> redruum: yes, i still know what vnc is, and it is still NOT secure
[22:01] <Alex311360> like this is my first experience w/ ubuntu
[22:01] <Dr_Dan> Q: is the the Docky plugin for weather still broken?
[22:02] <Ben64> Alex311360: it'd be much easier to use something like vino, since that comes with ubuntu, has a nice easy configuration and shares the main desktop
[22:03] <Alex311360> what if I'm using a alternate version of ubuntu like lubuntu
[22:03] <Ben64> Alex311360: should still work
[22:03] <Alex311360> i'm gonna go see if it's on there, if not i'll probably see if it's available on apt-get
[22:04] <Ben64> Alex311360: try running "vino-preferences"
[22:05] <Orpheon> Hello, I'm having issues with unity. Right at boot things work fine, however after half an hour opening the launcher dash bugs out more and more, with graphical glitches, miscolorations and text misrenderings until at one point it crashes. I had this bug in my old 12.something ubuntu so I replaced it with a fresh 14.10 which is suffering from the same problem. Any ideas how to find out what's happening?
[22:05] <Alex311360> Ben64: didn't have it, it's installing right now
[22:05] <Alex311360> let me know what to do after it's done
[22:06] <Orpheon> (crashes = system freezes, no response even to ctrl-alt-f1 etc)
[22:06] <Alex311360> k it's donwe
[22:06] <Alex311360> *Done
[22:06] <Dr_Dan> Orpheon: try instslling xfce-desktop
[22:07] <Dr_Dan> or better yet,  install the whole Xubuntu 14 ISO
[22:07] <Orpheon> Dr_Dan, is there no way to get unity to work with this? I really like it (yes I've tried xfce before). Also, this still points to some problem somewhere
[22:08] <Dr_Dan> <--- not a fan of dash
[22:10] <arun> guys, which is the lightest working web browser in linux?
[22:10] <Dr_Dan> epiphany
[22:10] <Dr_Dan> they use not in raspberry pi
[22:10] <Dr_Dan> now
[22:10] <Dr_Dan> not not
[22:11] <redruum> arun: that question could cause a flaming war.
[22:11] <mbalmer> arun, netcat and a bit of imagination...
[22:11] <redruum> arun: Lol
[22:11] <arun> redruum: ok...
[22:11] <arun> mbalmer: lol
[22:12] <arun> As ff and chromium are too heavy they are not good for old PC..
[22:12] <arun> what might be good for old PC ?
[22:12] <redruum> Ben64: You have any thoughts
[22:13] <Ben64> redruum: please don't ping me
[22:13] <dinet> I'm trying to get the translations working in KDE but it seems the packages wont install
[22:16] <dinet> kde-l10n-sv is installed and the locale-settings in KDE say that the package is not installed
[22:17] <Dr_Dan> arun, try midori or ephiphany
[22:17] <samthewildone> Can someone lend me a hand on this problem > http://pastebin.com/rebVdU6U
[22:18] <samthewildone> the application force closes upon the "cannot find libgstream".
[22:18] <samthewildone> I installed all the codecs & did a complete reinstall of both the os & the application.
[22:18] <samthewildone> This same error happened on unity.
[22:24] <marcelo> hello
[22:24] <marcelo> Are there anybody here  ?
[22:24] <k1l_> marcelo: just ask you ubuntu question :)
[22:24] <Ben64> 1672 people, including you
[22:26] <marcelo> ok , thanks Y need to know how to change video driver in ubunto. If is possible in graphics mode and in text mode too.
[22:26] <HowardTheDuck> hey
[22:26] <aeon-ltd> marcelo: you just uninstall then install the one you want usually
[22:27] <k1l_> marcelo: change from what driver to what driver?
[22:27] <HowardTheDuck> i take it to boot from a USB stick to install Ubuntu I need to do more than just throw the ISO on tehre
[22:28] <marcelo> I dont know tool for change video driver when linux dont start in graphis.
[22:28] <k1l_> HowardTheDuck: you need to "burn" it there. either with a usb-creator or with dd
[22:28] <HowardTheDuck> i'm getting one called universal usb installer by pendrivelinux
[22:28] <dinet> HowardTheDuck: here is a good guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[22:29] <marcelo> I can start in text mode but dont know configure tool () if exist) in order to change video driver config fron text mode
[22:29] <marcelo> or console mode}
[22:29] <k1l_> marcelo: that depends on what driver you installed
[22:30] <redruum> marcelo: so the machine is failing to boot into graphically interface.
[22:30] <k1l_> marcelo: so we need a lot more infos on what system, what video card, what driver, what error  etc...
[22:30] <Dr_Dan> try:   startx
[22:30] <redruum> marcelo: so the machine is failing to boot into graphically interface.
[22:30] <k1l_> no, Dr_Dan dont do startx on ubuntu
[22:31] <k1l_> if you want to start the xserver start lightdm.
[22:31] <Dr_Dan> ;) gotcha
[22:31] <redruum> Shut up. Find out if x11 Is failing to start from marcelo
[22:33] <linux18824> hi
[22:33] <redruum> Calmly marcelo Is it failing to load graphics.
[22:34] <dinet> I'm trying to get KDE in swedish. the kde-translation package is installed but the settings refuses to use them. any ideas?
[22:34] <W6NZX> easy question i hope, I have ubuntu 14.04, i've switched the DE to i3, but for the life of me i can't find what setting to change to make the screen stop dimming. I've diabled it under a unity setting but under i3 nada it still dims, nothing in i3 should make the screen dim.
[22:34] <W6NZX> pulling my ahir out trying to find it.
[22:35] <marcelo> Please, letme explain abut me problem
[22:36] <michel_> Olá
[22:36] <dinet> and becuase of that the translation works.. ok, time for a reboot and se so everything works as they should
[22:36] <redruum> marcelo: okay. Because I want to know if the x-server is failing or the grub is
[22:36] <michel_> hello
[22:37] <Bashing-om> michel_: Welcome to th channel, state your issue .
[22:38] <happyfr0gg> Hello, how is everyone?
[22:38] <W6NZX> is under dconf editor?
[22:38] <arun> guys, why "from UbuntuDrivers import detect" module doesn't work though ubuntu-drivers-common is installed ...
[22:39] <Kris545545_> what do i need to do to get a ubuntu cloak?
[22:40] <k1l_> !membership | Kris545545_
[22:40] <Bashing-om> Kris545545_: Join #freenode and ask there .
[22:41] <k1l_> Bashing-om: no. freenode can only set them after the community council gave them membership.
[22:41] <Bashing-om> k1l_: :)) .
[22:41] <happyfr0gg> What is an ubuntu cloak?
[22:42] <W6NZX> any thoughts on where to change the power settings?
[22:43] <Bashing-om> happyfr0gg: Do in status window -> whois Bashing-om <- as I am, I am .
[22:43] <minimec> W6NZX: If you start the gnome-settings-daemon in your i3 session, the gnome power settings would indeed be used. So you can change them with dcinf-editor.
[22:43] <happyfr0gg> W6NZX, what os do you have?
[22:43] <happyfr0gg> Bashing-om, okay, give me a second.
[22:44] <W6NZX> happyfr0gg 14.04 with i3 as the DE
[22:44] <Dr_Dan> Q: is the the Docky plugin for weather still broken?
[22:44] <happyfr0gg> whois Bashing-om
[22:45] <marcelo> I am use linux ubuntu lxle
[22:45] <Bashing-om> happyfr0gg: " /whois Bashing-om " preferably in the status window .
[22:45] <Chuck_Norris> marcelo: did you asked in ubuntu-es ?
[22:45] <k1l_> marcelo: for lxle please see their support. it changes stuff on ubuntu so we cant know
[22:46] <W6NZX> minimec service gnome-settings status returns unrecognized service
[22:46] <Chuck_Norris> ask*
[22:46] <happyfr0gg> Bashing-om, yeah, i forgot to input the forward slash symbol.
[22:47] <W6NZX> happyfr0gg any thoughts?
[22:48] <marcelo> have ubutu text or console config tool ?
[22:48] <happyfr0gg> I am still running my Google fu.
[22:48] <Chuck_Norris> marcelo: conectate a ubuntu-es o enviame un privado
[22:48] <Chuck_Norris> !english
[22:49] <k1l_> marcelo: see on the lxle page where to get support. we cant support that
[22:50] <minimec> W6NZX: gnome-settings-daemon is not a system service, but part of the gnome user session. For example... I use enlightenemt e17 WM with a gnome-session (gnome-settings-daemon). I don not know if you use your i3 WM the same way, but aparently not.
[22:50] <happyfr0gg> W6NZX, what exactly are you trying to accomplish from the power settings?
[22:51] <Chuck_Norris> oh! k1l_ is right lxle isn't supported, sry, marcelo usa un entorno de escritorio oficial soportado por la counidad
[22:51] <W6NZX> happyfr0gg Basically I never want the screen to sleep at all, i use the power button :D
[22:54] <marcelo> dear people, really i cant understand. I asked about how to configure ubuntu in text mode.
[22:55] <W6NZX> I've tried xset -dpms, xset dpms off etc with no luck.
[22:55] <Ben64> marcelo: you really haven't provided any information, despite many requests that you do so. we cannot help you without knowing what is going on
[22:55] <happyfr0gg> W6NZX, try this tool TLP: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/10/advanced-power-management-tool-tlp-06.html
[22:56] <k1l_> marcelo: you dont use ubuntu at all. so please see lxle support and not the ubuntu support.
[22:56] <bprompt> marcelo:    why is ubuntu not loading xserver? or the GUI
[22:56] <bprompt> marcelo:    tried running "startx" if at the terminal, yet?
[22:56] <arun> guys, why "from UbuntuDrivers import detect" module doesn't work though ubuntu-drivers-common is installed ...
[22:56] <Ben64> k1l_: ah, didn't realize lxle was a distro
[22:56] <k1l_> bprompt: stop ti!
[22:57] <Tobbi> Where do we notify the ubuntu apps directory of an update to our software?
[22:57] <k1l_> bprompt: startx is just plain wrong. and the user is not even using ubuntu. he uses lxle so he should ask their support
[22:58] <delinquentme> looking for a script to recursively go through a directory and delete copies of files?
[22:58] <delinquentme> suggstions?
[22:58] <happyfr0gg> Tobbi, please rephrase your question.
[22:58] <Bashing-om> Tobbi: (??) The package manager takes care of keeping the system updated .
[22:58] <k1l_> delinquentme: fslint is that program
[22:58] <marcelo> In past, several distro had text tools for adjust configuration. I dont remember now.
[22:59] <MonkeyDust> delinquentme  would be something like   find / -name blah -exec rm {} \;
[22:59] <Tobbi> happyfr0gg: Okay, the latest version of SuperTux is listed as 0.3.3 https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/saucy/supertux/ though we released 0.3.4 at least 1 year ago. How do we get that updated?
[23:00] <trism> Tobbi: it's 0.3.4 in 14.04+ at least
[23:00] <happyfr0gg> Tobbi, what is your relation to SuperTux?
[23:00] <trism> !info supertux | Tobbi
[23:01] <bprompt> marcelo:    depends on the distribution, keep in mind the channel is ubuntu-distribution oriented, depending on the issue, you could resolve it by editing xorg.conf or not, but in the past, and maybe even still so, on some other distributions, yes
[23:01] <Tobbi> happyfr0gg: I am mostly fixing bugs in SuperTux, got commit access etc.
[23:01] <k1l_> delinquentme: or fdupes if you want cli only
[23:01] <Tobbi> Oh, right!
[23:01] <Tobbi> trism: I guess it's okay then.
[23:02] <wtfmucker> hi im new to ubuntu
[23:02] <Bashing-om> Tobbi: Are you running "/saucy/supertux/ " ? as releae 13.04 (saucy) is End-Of-Life .
[23:02] <happyfr0gg> Tobbi, when you are done with fixing the bugs in SuperTux, upload it with a newer version on the server where the others reside.
[23:02] <k1l_> Tobbi: new version com with new ubuntu releases. only security and heavy bug patches to already released ubuntu versions.
[23:02] <wtfmucker> can anyone help my i like to monitor my own wifi network
[23:03] <Tobbi> Bashing-om: I am not running anything right now. I just got notified by someone who claimed that SuperTux was outdated. So, never mind.
[23:03] <arun> delinquentme: you can use fslint
[23:03] <k1l_> Tobbi: read this if you want to change packages in 14.04 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[23:03] <Tobbi> happyfr0gg: We need to discuss when to release the next version first. IMO it's overdue. But I don't like this heavy decision to rest on my shoulders.
[23:04] <minimec> wtfmucker: http://askubuntu.com/questions/192654/i-need-a-good-network-monitoring-tool
[23:04] <happyfr0gg> W6NZX, has the TLP tool helped you out?
[23:04] <Chuck_Norris> wtfmucker: http://autoscan-network.com/download/
[23:05] <wtfmucker> thx minumec il try the can u support my when i need some help cos im a newby
[23:05] <happyfr0gg> Tobbi, are there other developers collaberating on SuperTux?
[23:05] <wtfmucker> thc chuck
[23:06] <Tobbi> happyfr0gg: Yeah, there are probably 2 more, but all of us contribute more or less intermittently after the original team completely abandoned the project.
[23:06] <Tobbi> https://code.google.com/p/supertux/source/list
[23:06] <wtfmucker> i already tryed some things but my system comes out faling so i must do some thing wrong
[23:07] <happyfr0gg> Tobbi, that sucks the original team abandoned updating SuperTux. I have never run it.
[23:08] <Tobbi> happyfr0gg: It's alright. We mostly do bugfixing, keeping the project alive, maybe some small features...
[23:09] <happyfr0gg> I am in the process of downloading the x86 version of Windows 7 HP. I learned a while ago that my CPU is not capable of doing virtualization, even though it is a 64 bit.
[23:10] <keviv> Does ssh-keygen not work with virtual files?
[23:11] <happyfr0gg> I have Vbox installed so I am going to try to install Windows 7 HP x86 as a VM.
[23:13] <keviv> `ssh-keyscan $host 2> /dev/null | ssh-keygen -lf /dev/stdin` and `ssh-keygen -lf <(ssh-keyscan $host 2> /dev/null)` both complain that the file isn't a public key file, but if I redirect ssh-keyscan's stdout to a temp file, and pass that filename to ssh-keygen, it works :/
[23:13] <wtfmucker> minimec: dos it give passwords and messenger messegaes etc
[23:13] <wtfmucker> something like that im looking for
[23:14] <wtfmucker> send from android devices ...
[23:14] <minimec> happyfr0gg: "I learned a while ago that my CPU is not capable of doing virtualization..." I had to activate these options in the BIOS for my CPU.
[23:14] <wtfmucker> possible?
[23:15] <k1l_> wtfmucker: we dont support wifi hacking in here. there is enough documentation out there if you are interessted and want to learn stuff about networking.
[23:16] <wtfmucker> its not hacking bro its my own network i like to monitor
[23:17] <k1l_> wtfmucker: we cant verify its your network. so if you want to learn it see the documentations.
[23:17] <fastputty> hello guys, igot some alia for my eth0, like eth0:0 and eth0:1..
[23:17] <fastputty> is there a way to use eth0:0 as primary?
[23:17] <fastputty> so all my request go out from this alias?
[23:18] <wtfmucker> well trough
[23:18] <wtfmucker> i like to learn more about ubuntu but i just a newbi
[23:19] <wtfmucker> so i aint getting no where lol
[23:19] <k1l_> wtfmucker: what do you need help with?
[23:19] <OerHeks> fastputty, maybe this page is any help http://www.yourownlinux.com/2013/09/how-to-create-alias-for-network.html
[23:19] <wtfmucker> k1l_: can i privite msg u
[23:20] <k1l_> wtfmucker: support in this channel only please
[23:20] <wtfmucker> ok
[23:20] <EriC^^> !manual | wtfmucker
[23:21] <wtfmucker> i tryed a few things like sslstrip but i dont know i need that
[23:21] <k1l_> wtfmucker: please stop asking about cracking passwords and stuff like this in here.
[23:22] <wtfmucker> line i sayd i just installes ubuntu to set a home monitor to sniff my home to see what kids and wife is up to
[23:22] <wtfmucker> ok bro
[23:22] <Xenos> has anyone found an easy way of managing ipod with this distro we have
[23:23] <k1l_> Xenos: best what i heard is running itunes in wine.
[23:23] <wtfmucker> i dont want to hack or crack anything ...
[23:25] <fastputty> how come the /etc/init.d/networking restart does not reload my ifconfig from /etc/network/interfaces??/
[23:25] <wtfmucker> ubottu: i know how to use a comp just not familar with vommand line and starting installed en setting them up
[23:25] <wtfmucker> lol
[23:26] <OerHeks> fastputty, i guess because networkmanager is handling interfaces, that tutorial is mainly used on a server
[23:27] <fastputty> i am under ubuntun server
[23:27] <fastputty> OerHeks: i am under ubuntu server
[23:29] <OerHeks> fastputty, then something is wrong, can you paste the file on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[23:29] <OerHeks> fastputty, and how did you restart networking?
[23:30] <delinquentme> linux vsualizations of the respective directories on my file system?
[23:33] <wtfmucker> k1l_: can u get me some info on how to laungh apps installed trough command line
[23:34] <k1l_> wtfmucker: that depends on the apps you installed and how you installed them. if you used "apt-get install" you should be starting them with their name in terminal
[23:34] <HowardTheDuck> hey, does Ubuntu natively handle Optimus graphics switching on laptops these days?  I haven't used it since 10.04 b/c the laptop I got at that time had this damn optimus card
[23:35] <wtfmucker> ow ueah i notest i dont like that
[23:36] <wtfmucker> what is the althernative
[23:36] <Bashing-om> HowardTheDuck: Check out " nvidia-prime " .
[23:36] <HowardTheDuck> what's that?
[23:36] <k1l_> HowardTheDuck: install the  nvidia driver from the ubuntu repo and it should install nvidia-prime. that lets you change the cards
[23:36] <HowardTheDuck> holy moly so I don't need to jack with Bumblebee anymore?
[23:37] <Bashing-om> HowardTheDuck: A means to deal with hybrid graphics -> apt-cache show nvidia-prime <- .
[23:37] <k1l_> HowardTheDuck: yep
[23:37] <HowardTheDuck> My brother wanted Ubuntu on his little laptop and i just spent too much time getting Win8 to boot from USB
[23:37] <HowardTheDuck> messing around w/ it now, haven't used Ubuntu in a long time heh
[23:44] <nicomachus> hey guys, I'm getting some graphics issues so I wanted to check a GPU monitor and see if I was maxing it out.
[23:45] <nicomachus> I used Nvidia-smi, and then got this: https://imgur.com/BeIyDXT
[23:45] <cromagi> HE‎connect to wifi on my destop in which i just installed ubuntu?
[23:45] <cromagi> how do i*
[23:45] <cromagi> ave no ethernet
[23:45] <cromagi> I just wanna setup wireless connection
[23:46] <OerHeks> nicomachus, seems like that 8400 is not supported in smi
[23:46] <cromagi> Anyone?
[23:46] <nicomachus> ha, that would explain it...
[23:46] <nicomachus> shit. Any gpu monitors that are compatible?
[23:49] <OerHeks> nicomachus, no universal ones that i know of :(
[23:49] <nicomachus> bummer. this GPU is giving me a ridiculous amount of trouble.
[23:49] <cromagi> any1?
[23:49] <happyfr0gg> i have a question about virtualbox. I have a Windows 7 HP x86 iso file and am stuck on deciding on the virtual hard drive file type. Which ones do I choose?
[23:49] <wtfmucker> as the terminal is bizzy do i need to open multiply terminals to proceed??
[23:49] <nicomachus> on the verge of just replacing it.
[23:51] <irth> happyfr0gg: go with default one?
[23:53] <happyfr0gg> irth, Will VirtualBox recognize the iso file?
[23:54] <irth> yeah
[23:54] <irth> ypu need to select it and it will expose it to the vm as a real cd/dvd/whatever
[23:55] <irth> it should ask dor iso on first boot of vm
[23:57] <ceed^> Does anyone know whether we will be able to move windows controls to the right again, or is that option all gone?
[23:57] <k1l_> ceed^: on unity7 its gone. i dont know what its on unity8 on MIR.
[23:58] <ki7rw> all of a sudden i can't get an screen - even knoppix fails to bring up a screen - did my lappy monitor suddenly go bad?
[23:58] <ceed^> k1l_, And you do not think they will bring it back in Unity?
[23:59] <k1l_> ki7rw: well, that is possible. or you did hit the shortkey to disable the laptop monitor and enable the external video output only
[23:59] <korst3n> Hey.. i've tried adding some iptables prerouting rule... however I don't see it in iptables -L now and the ufw is enabled
[23:59] <korst3n> how do i make ufw reset iptables rules?