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Nixusanyone know of an alternative task switcher when you press "alt-tab" thanks05:12
bazhangfor xfce4?05:14
Unit193Well you can change your window manager.05:15
Nixusyeh05:28
Nixuslike?05:28
NixusI want something lightweight like xfwm05:28
Nixusmy Xubuntu 14.04 does an instant shutdown, then power up again when I press the power button. Any help is appreciated. Thank you !06:15
onrhow to pronounce it? ex-ubuntu06:35
onror like you say xylophone? or zubuntu? maybe shubuntu (chinese-esque)?06:36
onri've been using xubuntu but this keeps my mind busy for a while06:37
onr*for years06:37
cfhowlettsurely there are other aspects of ubuntu more deserving of your valuable intellect???06:37
onrit's embarrassing, i can't tell anyone i'm using xubuntu, just because i can't pronounce it06:40
cfhowlettonr, just say ubuntu.  done.  nextt.06:40
onri say i use ubuntu with xfce if i really have to (and i pronounce it "x face")06:40
Nixus my Xubuntu 14.04 does an instant shutdown, then power up again when I press the power button. Any help is appreciated. Thank you !06:45
Nixusfresh install06:46
Unit193Xubuntu (/zuːˈbuːntuː/ zoo-BOON-too)06:46
onryay zubuntu!06:47
onrthanks Unit19306:47
Unit193Sure.06:47
onrNixus: settings > power manager > "when power button is pressed" > ?06:48
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bennypr0faneI'm trying to get the "open as administrator" option in Thunar file manager. It has this sort of extensions manager for that, but no extensions there to install. Would anyone happen to know which package I would need for that?13:32
elfybennypr0fane: I add custom actions to do that13:34
elfyhttp://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/custom-actions13:34
elfyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunarCustomActions13:34
elfyif you do that - bear in mind we no longer have gksu installed - so that will need installing or replace gksu with pkexec and it'll work13:35
bennypr0faneelfy: I have gksu installed13:39
elfythen they should work as it shows on those pages13:42
bennypr0faneelfy: thanks. "custom actions" is what I meant with "add-on manager". I defined the "open folder as root" one now, but it doens't show up in the context menu when I right-click a folder. it's ther only when clicking on files13:44
elfywhat command do you have for the actions?13:46
bennypr0fanegksudo thunar %f13:47
bennypr0fanewhat's the differnece between gksu and gksudo anyway?13:48
elfymmm - should work, pkexec thunar %f works here - pretty sure I just changed that to pkexec13:48
bennypr0faneI can't know if it works, I don't even get the opportunity to try it :-D13:51
bennypr0fanebtw which irc client would you recommend for Xfce? Is X-Chat the best for you?13:51
elfyusing hexchat currently13:52
bennypr0faneelfy: cool, gonna try that13:52
elfyhave you closed and re-opened thunar?13:52
bennypr0fanexchat is a bit tooo...basic for my taste13:53
elfyhexchat is more or less a maintained xchat13:53
bennypr0faneok, thanks for your help!13:54
remlineelfy, interesting, hexchat is news to me. Why does Xubuntu ship with XChat instead of hexchat?14:56
cfhowlettremline, no one noticed that xchat has been deprecated.  perhaps a bug report?14:57
remlineIt looks like xchat code hasn't been touched for 5 years14:58
* remline is now using hexchat, just installed via apt-get15:03
brainwashremline: xubuntu 14.10 does not install xchat anymore15:04
remlinebrainwash, thanks for the info, I am on trusty. Did they replace xchat, or just remove it?15:04
elfyjust removed it15:04
brainwash"XChat is removed from the default installation; we recommend trying the Pidgin IRC feature if you need to connect sporadically."15:04
Meerkatso xubuntu comes with no IRC client?15:04
remlineI tried to use Pidgin for IRC once, but I couldn't understand its interface. I'm just too used to mIRC/xchat style.15:05
brainwashthe question is, why isn't heychat installed as replacement then15:07
brainwashhexchat15:07
remlineDoes anyone use Dropbox? What's up with the ugly white+transparent tray icon?15:14
brainwashremline: the dropbox app has been rewritten recently and people started complaining about the tray icon. it either went missing or the appearance was broken15:21
brainwashhttps://www.dropboxforum.com/hc/en-us/search?commit=Search&query=icon15:21
remlinebrainwash, that looks like a very ecumenical issue. People on Win, Mac, and linux are all having problems with the tray icon :)15:24
remlineFortunately mine hasn't disappeared -- it just looks ugly15:25
brainwashon would think that dropbox has the resources to test this properly and not release some beta software15:27
remlineI'm thankful that they release a Linux client at all15:28
cfhowlettremline, likewise15:28
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Nixusmy Xubuntu 14.04 does an instant shutdown, then power up again when I press the power button. Any help is appreciated. Thank you !16:30
NixusIt's a fresh install also.16:31
Nixusanyone?16:34
Nixus?16:40
Nixus!patience16:51
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/16:51
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Nixus2Anyone know how to make Xubuntu execute keys after suspend? Thanks!19:21
Azelphurwhat do you mean by execute keys?19:22
Azelphurthe laptop is in a very low power state on suspend, I'm not sure it can do anything "after suspend"19:23
Nixus2So i have a bug when I shut the lid on my laptop, the cursor disappears. But, to get it back, i have to exit GUI (Ctrl alt f1) then go back to GUI (Ctrl alt f7). Can i do make this automated?19:25
AzelphurNixus2: not that I know of,19:25
Nixus2Ok19:26
pleia2Nixus2: is your system fully up to date? I remember a bug about that a while back, but it was fixed19:26
dxerfhello19:33
Nixus2Ehy19:37
Nixus2Yes, fresh install too after apt-get dist-uograde, etc.19:38
Nixus2Upgrade*19:38
Nixus2Is there a command that opens and closes the non-gui terminal?19:39
bekksNixus2: Which non-gui terminal?19:48
Nixus2The ctrl alt f119:48
Nixus2Maybe a virtual key press?19:49
Nixus2So ctrl alt f1, then ctrl alt f7? I don't have coding experience19:49
bekksthat switching terminals, not closing them.19:52
bekksIf you want to close them, type "exit" and press enter.19:52
Nixus2Ctrl f7 goes back to GUI19:59
Nixus2Ctrl alt f7*19:59
bekksYes, but it does not "close" any terminals.19:59
Nixus2I have to deal with the cursor disappearing, or having my power button do an instant restart... :-/19:59
Nixus2Eq20:03
Nixus2Each issue in either 14.04 or 14.1020:03
dxerfis there a way in xfce to not have a window move between virtual screens if I drag it to the end of the window?20:11
Hunddxerf: Check settings.20:12
Hunddxerf: I know its there somewhere. :P I dont remember where though.20:13
dxerfHund: heh, no prob...I'll dig around20:13
dxerfnew to xfce420:13
Hunddxerf: Im not using Xfce atm so I cant check. :P20:15
Hunddxerf: And welcome!20:15
dxerfno prob, I'm on a mac right now myself.  And thanks!20:16
dxerfI love gnome but the notifications and docky crashing sorta made it...uh...frustrating?20:16
Hunddxerf: Im going to pretend I didnt heard that. ;) haha20:16
HundI stopped using GNOME when they released version 3.20:17
dxerfhaha I understand..  It's work related mostly although I got a mac mini for at home so I can keep comfortable with it.  If it helps the Linux box is the most powerful box in the house?20:17
Hundhaha! I dont mind what others are using. Its fun to tease people though. :P20:18
dxerfI still go back to it a little bit but xfce is incredibly fast and maybe not as "showy" but if I can have a dock that doesn't crash all the time...I can be okay with that. :)20:18
dxerfI understand...  Mac != compile kernel = "less cool points"20:18
Nixus2Anyone know of a lighterwight version of mint XFCE? Dont need all the included stuff20:19
Hunddxerf: Have you tried Mate? Its a fork of Gnome 2.20:19
HundNixus2: Dont they have a minimal version?20:20
HundNixus2: So you can install all the packages yourself.20:20
Nixus2Kinda want XFCE20:20
Nixus2Yes hund20:20
HundNixus2: I never said you couldnt install Xfce. :P20:21
Nixus2Most*20:21
dxerfHund: I haven't..  It wasn't on Ubuntu for a while and then I just tried to stick it out with gnome-shell.  I like what gnome-shell is trying to do, they just need to step back, work on it for longer and make a better release.20:21
Nixus2Well..20:21
Nixus2Id have to remove all the mate dependencies and stuff20:22
Hunddxerf: Ah! :)20:23
HundNixus2: Remove Mate deps? Im not sure Im following you now. :P20:23
Nixus2Why?20:23
HundNixus2: I never mentioned Mate.20:24
Nixus2Yes?20:24
HundNixus2: I wasnt talking to you when I mentioned Mate.20:24
Nixus2Oh!20:25
Nixus2Im sorry20:25
Hund:D20:25
Nixus2:-P20:25
HundNixus2: I checked and they dont have a minimal version.20:26
Nixus2Yeah, just as i thoughg20:26
HundNixus2: But if you dont want all the "extra" whats the point in installting Mint? Why not Xubuntu?20:27
Nixus2Too bad debian doesnt support steam...20:27
Nixus2Is there a lightweight distro using xfce for me? Have about 6-7 months of linux experience. I am fine with using google, etc.20:30
HundNixus2: Xubuntu? :P20:30
Nixus2I have issues :-/20:30
HundWhat kinds of issues?20:30
Nixus2Either my mouse disappearing or my power button doing a force restart20:31
Nixus2Each in different versions. The curaor issue in 14.10, and the power button in 14.0420:31
HundNixus2: When does it disappear?20:32
Nixus2When i shut my laptop lid.20:32
Nixus2To get it back, i have to do ctrl alt f1, then ctrl alt f720:32
HundNixus2: Have you tried disabling screen lock?20:33
Nixus2Yes, i dont use one in the first place either20:33
Nixus2bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker/+bug/1297144 comment #2620:34
HundNixus2: Its a know bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker/+bug/129714420:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1297144 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Invisible cursor after resume from suspend" [Undecided,Confirmed]20:34
HundOh20:34
Nixus2Some people are having the issue after removing lock screen, like !e20:35
Nixus2Me*20:35
HundWell, then you play the waiting game. :P20:35
Nixus2-_-20:35
Nixus2Maybe a different distro?20:36
HundThats a solution. Not something I would recomend as you most likley will run into the same problem on another distro.20:37
Nixus2The cursor didnt disappear in 14.04...20:40
HundNixus2: Thats a older version. I think its a LTS version though. But old stuff is boring. :P20:41
Nixus2I guess....20:41
Nixus2Its lts20:41
HundBut I really dont see that as a dealbreaker bug though.20:43
HundBut its kinda old. Thats a bit worrying.20:43
HundHow about trying the upcoming version 15.04?20:44
Nixus2Not out yet...20:45
Hundhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/20:45
bekksHund: Thats 14.10, not 15.0420:45
Hundbekks: What?20:46
Nixus2Maybe!20:46
bekksHund: That daily live isnt 15.04, but 14.10 based.20:46
Hundbekks: Oh? But it says 15.04?20:47
bekksHund: Oh, so they changed that link. Nevermind :)20:48
Hundbekks: :D20:48
bekksNonetheless, you shouldnt use 15.04 unless you can handle bugs on your own ;)20:48
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xubuntu996hi21:48
xubuntu996Puedo hablar en español?21:48
knome!es | xubuntu99621:48
ubottuxubuntu996: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.21:48
xubuntu996ok thanks21:49
remlineI just found the option to allow drag and drop reordering of the window buttons. Nice!22:23

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