[05:12] <Nixus> anyone know of an alternative task switcher when you press "alt-tab" thanks
[05:14] <bazhang> for xfce4?
[05:15] <Unit193> Well you can change your window manager.
[05:28] <Nixus> yeh
[05:28] <Nixus> like?
[05:28] <Nixus> I want something lightweight like xfwm
[06:15] <Nixus> my Xubuntu 14.04 does an instant shutdown, then power up again when I press the power button. Any help is appreciated. Thank you !
[06:35] <onr> how to pronounce it? ex-ubuntu
[06:36] <onr> or like you say xylophone? or zubuntu? maybe shubuntu (chinese-esque)?
[06:37] <onr> i've been using xubuntu but this keeps my mind busy for a while
[06:37] <onr> *for years
[06:37] <cfhowlett> surely there are other aspects of ubuntu more deserving of your valuable intellect???
[06:40] <onr> it's embarrassing, i can't tell anyone i'm using xubuntu, just because i can't pronounce it
[06:40] <cfhowlett> onr, just say ubuntu.  done.  nextt.
[06:40] <onr> i say i use ubuntu with xfce if i really have to (and i pronounce it "x face")
[06:45] <Nixus>  my Xubuntu 14.04 does an instant shutdown, then power up again when I press the power button. Any help is appreciated. Thank you !
[06:46] <Nixus> fresh install
[06:46] <Unit193> Xubuntu (/zuːˈbuːntuː/ zoo-BOON-too)
[06:47] <onr> yay zubuntu!
[06:47] <onr> thanks Unit193
[06:47] <Unit193> Sure.
[06:48] <onr> Nixus: settings > power manager > "when power button is pressed" > ?
[13:32] <bennypr0fane> I'm trying to get the "open as administrator" option in Thunar file manager. It has this sort of extensions manager for that, but no extensions there to install. Would anyone happen to know which package I would need for that?
[13:34] <elfy> bennypr0fane: I add custom actions to do that
[13:34] <elfy> http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/custom-actions
[13:34] <elfy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunarCustomActions
[13:35] <elfy> if you do that - bear in mind we no longer have gksu installed - so that will need installing or replace gksu with pkexec and it'll work
[13:39] <bennypr0fane> elfy: I have gksu installed
[13:42] <elfy> then they should work as it shows on those pages
[13:44] <bennypr0fane> elfy: thanks. "custom actions" is what I meant with "add-on manager". I defined the "open folder as root" one now, but it doens't show up in the context menu when I right-click a folder. it's ther only when clicking on files
[13:46] <elfy> what command do you have for the actions?
[13:47] <bennypr0fane> gksudo thunar %f
[13:48] <bennypr0fane> what's the differnece between gksu and gksudo anyway?
[13:48] <elfy> mmm - should work, pkexec thunar %f works here - pretty sure I just changed that to pkexec
[13:51] <bennypr0fane> I can't know if it works, I don't even get the opportunity to try it :-D
[13:51] <bennypr0fane> btw which irc client would you recommend for Xfce? Is X-Chat the best for you?
[13:52] <elfy> using hexchat currently
[13:52] <bennypr0fane> elfy: cool, gonna try that
[13:52] <elfy> have you closed and re-opened thunar?
[13:53] <bennypr0fane> xchat is a bit tooo...basic for my taste
[13:53] <elfy> hexchat is more or less a maintained xchat
[13:54] <bennypr0fane> ok, thanks for your help!
[14:56] <remline> elfy, interesting, hexchat is news to me. Why does Xubuntu ship with XChat instead of hexchat?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> remline, no one noticed that xchat has been deprecated.  perhaps a bug report?
[14:58] <remline> It looks like xchat code hasn't been touched for 5 years
[15:03]  * remline is now using hexchat, just installed via apt-get
[15:04] <brainwash> remline: xubuntu 14.10 does not install xchat anymore
[15:04] <remline> brainwash, thanks for the info, I am on trusty. Did they replace xchat, or just remove it?
[15:04] <elfy> just removed it
[15:04] <brainwash> "XChat is removed from the default installation; we recommend trying the Pidgin IRC feature if you need to connect sporadically."
[15:04] <Meerkat> so xubuntu comes with no IRC client?
[15:05] <remline> I tried to use Pidgin for IRC once, but I couldn't understand its interface. I'm just too used to mIRC/xchat style.
[15:07] <brainwash> the question is, why isn't heychat installed as replacement then
[15:07] <brainwash> hexchat
[15:14] <remline> Does anyone use Dropbox? What's up with the ugly white+transparent tray icon?
[15:21] <brainwash> remline: the dropbox app has been rewritten recently and people started complaining about the tray icon. it either went missing or the appearance was broken
[15:21] <brainwash> https://www.dropboxforum.com/hc/en-us/search?commit=Search&query=icon
[15:24] <remline> brainwash, that looks like a very ecumenical issue. People on Win, Mac, and linux are all having problems with the tray icon :)
[15:25] <remline> Fortunately mine hasn't disappeared -- it just looks ugly
[15:27] <brainwash> on would think that dropbox has the resources to test this properly and not release some beta software
[15:28] <remline> I'm thankful that they release a Linux client at all
[15:28] <cfhowlett> remline, likewise
[16:30] <Nixus> my Xubuntu 14.04 does an instant shutdown, then power up again when I press the power button. Any help is appreciated. Thank you !
[16:31] <Nixus> It's a fresh install also.
[16:34] <Nixus> anyone?
[16:40] <Nixus> ?
[16:51] <Nixus> !patience
[19:21] <Nixus2> Anyone know how to make Xubuntu execute keys after suspend? Thanks!
[19:22] <Azelphur> what do you mean by execute keys?
[19:23] <Azelphur> the laptop is in a very low power state on suspend, I'm not sure it can do anything "after suspend"
[19:25] <Nixus2> So i have a bug when I shut the lid on my laptop, the cursor disappears. But, to get it back, i have to exit GUI (Ctrl alt f1) then go back to GUI (Ctrl alt f7). Can i do make this automated?
[19:25] <Azelphur> Nixus2: not that I know of,
[19:26] <Nixus2> Ok
[19:26] <pleia2> Nixus2: is your system fully up to date? I remember a bug about that a while back, but it was fixed
[19:33] <dxerf> hello
[19:37] <Nixus2> Ehy
[19:38] <Nixus2> Yes, fresh install too after apt-get dist-uograde, etc.
[19:38] <Nixus2> Upgrade*
[19:39] <Nixus2> Is there a command that opens and closes the non-gui terminal?
[19:48] <bekks> Nixus2: Which non-gui terminal?
[19:48] <Nixus2> The ctrl alt f1
[19:49] <Nixus2> Maybe a virtual key press?
[19:49] <Nixus2> So ctrl alt f1, then ctrl alt f7? I don't have coding experience
[19:52] <bekks> that switching terminals, not closing them.
[19:52] <bekks> If you want to close them, type "exit" and press enter.
[19:59] <Nixus2> Ctrl f7 goes back to GUI
[19:59] <Nixus2> Ctrl alt f7*
[19:59] <bekks> Yes, but it does not "close" any terminals.
[19:59] <Nixus2> I have to deal with the cursor disappearing, or having my power button do an instant restart... :-/
[20:03] <Nixus2> Eq
[20:03] <Nixus2> Each issue in either 14.04 or 14.10
[20:11] <dxerf> is there a way in xfce to not have a window move between virtual screens if I drag it to the end of the window?
[20:12] <Hund> dxerf: Check settings.
[20:13] <Hund> dxerf: I know its there somewhere. :P I dont remember where though.
[20:13] <dxerf> Hund: heh, no prob...I'll dig around
[20:13] <dxerf> new to xfce4
[20:15] <Hund> dxerf: Im not using Xfce atm so I cant check. :P
[20:15] <Hund> dxerf: And welcome!
[20:16] <dxerf> no prob, I'm on a mac right now myself.  And thanks!
[20:16] <dxerf> I love gnome but the notifications and docky crashing sorta made it...uh...frustrating?
[20:16] <Hund> dxerf: Im going to pretend I didnt heard that. ;) haha
[20:17] <Hund> I stopped using GNOME when they released version 3.
[20:17] <dxerf> haha I understand..  It's work related mostly although I got a mac mini for at home so I can keep comfortable with it.  If it helps the Linux box is the most powerful box in the house?
[20:18] <Hund> haha! I dont mind what others are using. Its fun to tease people though. :P
[20:18] <dxerf> I still go back to it a little bit but xfce is incredibly fast and maybe not as "showy" but if I can have a dock that doesn't crash all the time...I can be okay with that. :)
[20:18] <dxerf> I understand...  Mac != compile kernel = "less cool points"
[20:19] <Nixus2> Anyone know of a lighterwight version of mint XFCE? Dont need all the included stuff
[20:19] <Hund> dxerf: Have you tried Mate? Its a fork of Gnome 2.
[20:20] <Hund> Nixus2: Dont they have a minimal version?
[20:20] <Hund> Nixus2: So you can install all the packages yourself.
[20:20] <Nixus2> Kinda want XFCE
[20:20] <Nixus2> Yes hund
[20:21] <Hund> Nixus2: I never said you couldnt install Xfce. :P
[20:21] <Nixus2> Most*
[20:21] <dxerf> Hund: I haven't..  It wasn't on Ubuntu for a while and then I just tried to stick it out with gnome-shell.  I like what gnome-shell is trying to do, they just need to step back, work on it for longer and make a better release.
[20:21] <Nixus2> Well..
[20:22] <Nixus2> Id have to remove all the mate dependencies and stuff
[20:23] <Hund> dxerf: Ah! :)
[20:23] <Hund> Nixus2: Remove Mate deps? Im not sure Im following you now. :P
[20:23] <Nixus2> Why?
[20:24] <Hund> Nixus2: I never mentioned Mate.
[20:24] <Nixus2> Yes?
[20:24] <Hund> Nixus2: I wasnt talking to you when I mentioned Mate.
[20:25] <Nixus2> Oh!
[20:25] <Nixus2> Im sorry
[20:25] <Hund> :D
[20:25] <Nixus2> :-P
[20:26] <Hund> Nixus2: I checked and they dont have a minimal version.
[20:26] <Nixus2> Yeah, just as i thoughg
[20:27] <Hund> Nixus2: But if you dont want all the "extra" whats the point in installting Mint? Why not Xubuntu?
[20:27] <Nixus2> Too bad debian doesnt support steam...
[20:30] <Nixus2> Is there a lightweight distro using xfce for me? Have about 6-7 months of linux experience. I am fine with using google, etc.
[20:30] <Hund> Nixus2: Xubuntu? :P
[20:30] <Nixus2> I have issues :-/
[20:30] <Hund> What kinds of issues?
[20:31] <Nixus2> Either my mouse disappearing or my power button doing a force restart
[20:31] <Nixus2> Each in different versions. The curaor issue in 14.10, and the power button in 14.04
[20:32] <Hund> Nixus2: When does it disappear?
[20:32] <Nixus2> When i shut my laptop lid.
[20:32] <Nixus2> To get it back, i have to do ctrl alt f1, then ctrl alt f7
[20:33] <Hund> Nixus2: Have you tried disabling screen lock?
[20:33] <Nixus2> Yes, i dont use one in the first place either
[20:34] <Nixus2> bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker/+bug/1297144 comment #26
[20:34] <Hund> Nixus2: Its a know bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker/+bug/1297144
[20:34] <Hund> Oh
[20:35] <Nixus2> Some people are having the issue after removing lock screen, like !e
[20:35] <Nixus2> Me*
[20:35] <Hund> Well, then you play the waiting game. :P
[20:35] <Nixus2> -_-
[20:36] <Nixus2> Maybe a different distro?
[20:37] <Hund> Thats a solution. Not something I would recomend as you most likley will run into the same problem on another distro.
[20:40] <Nixus2> The cursor didnt disappear in 14.04...
[20:41] <Hund> Nixus2: Thats a older version. I think its a LTS version though. But old stuff is boring. :P
[20:41] <Nixus2> I guess....
[20:41] <Nixus2> Its lts
[20:43] <Hund> But I really dont see that as a dealbreaker bug though.
[20:43] <Hund> But its kinda old. Thats a bit worrying.
[20:44] <Hund> How about trying the upcoming version 15.04?
[20:45] <Nixus2> Not out yet...
[20:45] <Hund> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/
[20:45] <bekks> Hund: Thats 14.10, not 15.04
[20:46] <Hund> bekks: What?
[20:46] <Nixus2> Maybe!
[20:46] <bekks> Hund: That daily live isnt 15.04, but 14.10 based.
[20:47] <Hund> bekks: Oh? But it says 15.04?
[20:48] <bekks> Hund: Oh, so they changed that link. Nevermind :)
[20:48] <Hund> bekks: :D
[20:48] <bekks> Nonetheless, you shouldnt use 15.04 unless you can handle bugs on your own ;)
[21:48] <xubuntu996> hi
[21:48] <xubuntu996> Puedo hablar en español?
[21:48] <knome> !es | xubuntu996
[21:49] <xubuntu996> ok thanks
[22:23] <remline> I just found the option to allow drag and drop reordering of the window buttons. Nice!