[05:52] morning all. hope you all have a good week [05:55] Morning everyone [05:55] hi bduk1 [06:30] morning Kilos, bduk1 [06:30] Kilos: are you ready for next wednesday? :-P [06:33] Good morning [06:33] hi gremble [06:33] Good morning superfly. Doing well today? [06:34] morning gremble superfly [06:34] gremble: pretty well thanks, and you? [06:34] Yup. Trying to write a motivational letter for the Uni to let me change courses [06:34] hmm.. i suppose so superfly . i have no idea what else one must do [06:34] Hey Kilos [06:35] What are you trying to do> [06:35] sjoe gremble what you want to change to [06:35] im trying to apply for ubuntu membership [06:36] BSc Applied Mathematics. It is what I am studying, but my academic record still lists BSc Computer Science, so I just want to fix that. [06:36] computer science will bring in more money when you go work isnt it? [06:37] Computer Science is software engineering here [06:37] especially in za we are short of good IT peeps [06:37] if I wanted to make money, I would go to Computer Engineering [06:37] CS != IT [06:37] well do that [06:37] CS is supposed to be mathematics [06:37] gremble: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos [06:37] you need money for everything [06:37] No, I like math, thank you [06:38] maths is good for trying to work out a budget when you dont earn enough [06:39] Ironically, the maths that I do would be no good for working out the budget [06:39] lol [06:39] just joking man [06:39] I know [06:40] Still true though, I could probably do a statistical analysis on my income :P [06:40] Or interpolate a differential equation to describe how little money I have :P [06:40] haha [06:41] I was terrible at maths in school [06:41] its going to keep getting harder and harder to make ends meet [06:41] I nearly failed Std 9 [06:41] ya superfly me too [06:41] Luckily for me we have even fewer applied mathematics people in SA than we have Engineers or IT people [06:41] superfly: most of my matric mark was 40 [06:41] I got a 68 in the final exam [06:41] i failed matric maths [06:42] High school math is not real mathematics. It is some horrid basterdisation to scare children [06:42] got about 40% iirc [06:42] I was in a fancy school where they arent allowed to give you low marks like that [06:42] whew [06:43] My grandfather left school at std 9 to go work. He taught himself mathematics in his past time and has been teaching mathematics since I can remember :P [06:44] last 2 years of high school were hard with all the pretties around at the same time [06:44] wow [06:44] gremble: I just steer clear of anything maths related, other than development [06:44] but, development != maths [06:45] Nah, if you can learn a programming languge, you can learn math. It is the same, the notation is just really bad [06:45] It is like they put an autistic in charge of the naming scheme in a C program. [06:46] I think that is perhaps what makes it prohibitive [06:46] And the fact that people that are familiar with the notation like to tout it and go around pretending to be clever because they know the obscure notation [06:46] And that just makes everything worse [06:49] i think thats part of the reason geeks are taunted at school [06:49] everyone else is jealous [06:49] oo i blogged about geeks once [06:52] Did you say good things? [06:52] im trying to find it [06:57] Good mornings everybody, hope all of you had a great weekend and you are ready to take on the new week! [06:57] im sure spooks come fiddle here when im asleep [06:57] hi inetpro [07:01] inetpro: let's not talk about that, OK? [07:02] superfly: do you prefer to stay away from new weeks as well/ [07:02] :P [07:02] gremble: no, just today [07:02] Why do you dislike today? [07:03] lol [07:03] Just personal issues. [07:03] Work == awesome. Other stuff != awesome [07:04] ai! [07:07] Aww :/ [07:08] inetpro when i find my blog again im giving it to you for safekeeping [07:08] i have no idea where it is [07:09] On the internet? [07:09] no [07:10] i deleted it then had it all saved somewhere [07:10] started rebuilding it and now dont know from where grr [07:11] eish superfly, that doesn't sound good, hope it can be sorted [07:11] inetpro: nothing that a little R&R won't fix [07:11] cool [07:11] or, just taking it easy [07:15] i go sort sheep wbb === arnaudmez is now known as arnaudmez_ [07:49] Hi Guys [07:49] how are things this morning ? [07:49] hi arnaudmez_ [07:50] good ty and you? [07:50] good too [07:50] just stuck and can't find a proper info regarding google map [07:51] mao of where? [07:51] map [07:51] okay let me explain to you quickly [07:52] I'm currently working on project for what i need to do some map pointing on Google Map and have them printed on paper after [07:54] sjoe [07:54] in fact i will be walking around town and will have to map specific point (plus enter related infos: name, address, tel #, etc...) on google map > save it > print when there is need but at least have something that gives me geographical info of point i've visited [07:55] you have lots of work ahead of you [07:55] so where are you stuck? [08:00] first I want to understand this works with google product [08:00] it's google places or google map ? [08:02] lets hear what others say i dont use googlemaps, it eats my data [08:03] once before i used it and you can zoom right to each house [08:03] but no idea how you would mark them [08:05] look at this http://www.google.com/mapmaker [08:08] Maaz google how to make a local map [08:08] Kilos: "Make Maps Online with Click2Map" http://www.click2map.com/ :: "Display local shops and services on a map with Click2Map" http://www.click2map.com/display_local_shops_and_services_on_a_map :: "Google Map Maker" http://www.google.com/mapmaker :: "Create and verify a local business on Google - Google My Business ..." [08:08] https://support.google.com/business/answer/2911778?hl=en :: "How to Draw a Street Map: 9 Steps - wikiHow" http://www.wikihow.com/Dra… [08:20] Kilos: thanks a lot [08:20] yw [08:20] i've find something usefull withing the links you have sent [08:21] im glad [08:27] mornikng [08:27] Good mornin Squirm [08:32] hi Squirm [09:07] hmm... [09:08] week starting on a interesting note when you see a server log "optimization changed from TIME to SPACE" [09:18] what does that mean inetpro ? [09:19] Kilos: partition running out of space on one of my FreeBSD servers [09:20] ah ty [09:20] time to clean up [09:20] yeah looks like [09:20] if we want better performance [09:20] disk full is an ugly message [09:21] When the partition gets close to full, FreeBSD automatically switches to "space optimization" which doesn't waste any space, but doesn't perform as well. [09:22] first time I've actually seen this, to be honest [09:22] size of the drive? [09:23] oh its only a partition thats near full [09:23] yep [09:23] like 83% [09:23] so still safe [09:24] have you got space so you can resize it larger [09:24] ja, no stress really... just thought the log entry was very interesting [09:24] Or delete all the crap :P [09:24] like sci-fi [09:24] lol [09:49] hi drussell you been a starnger hey [09:49] stranger as well [10:03] ai! [10:03] there we go again... [10:04] wat nou? [10:04] Kilos: @CityTshwane STAGE 1, Group 3AB are currently loadshedding until 12:30.Load shedding schedule: [10:04] http://www.tshwane.gov.za/Services/Electricity/Pages/LoadShedding.aspx [10:04] eish [10:10] lo [10:10] hi ThatGraemeGuy [10:10] hi ThatGraemeGuy [10:14] Kilos: hey :o) [11:56] just gonna reboot to see what it feels like [11:58] hmm... [12:33] hmm... did we say hi nlsthzn [12:33] Maaz announce meeting tomorrow night at 20.30 [12:33] Announcement from Kilos! meeting tomorrow night at 20.30 [12:51] scared him outa his pants [13:23] so inetpro what have i dont with my blog? [13:23] maybe a shift delete on the wrong folder [13:31] wb arnaudmez_ did you win [13:31] Looking for a way to rename my laptop under linux [13:31] i've done sudo hostname new_name but nothing [13:31] still localhost [13:32] Kilos: yes, I did [13:32] hmm... [13:32] got registered as google mapper and now proceding with test before everything goes live [13:32] take a can of spray paint and grafiti the name change on your lappy [13:33] what linux are you using on the laptop [13:34] fedora [13:34] ai1 [13:35] Maaz google how to change your computer name on fedora [13:35] Kilos: "How to Change Your Hostname (Computer Name) on Ubuntu Linux" http://www.howtogeek.com/197934/how-to-change-your-hostname-computer-name-on-ubuntu-linux/ :: "How to change the hostname of a Linux system - MDLog:/sysadmin" http://www.ducea.com/2006/08/07/how-to-change-the-hostname-of-a-linux-system/ :: "Linux change my hostname / computer system name - [13:35] nixCraft" http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-change-my-hostname-machine-name/ :: "Permanently Ch… [13:37] look at the cyberciti link [13:37] seems easy enough === SDCDev is now known as steb4s === steb4s is now known as Rynomster [14:06] hi Rynomster [14:07] hey Kilos [14:07] how are you? [14:07] Greetings from Port Elizabeth [14:07] good ty and you? [14:07] ty [14:07] oh my there was someone here the other day looking for contacts down there [14:13] Kilos: worked like a charm [14:13] ty [14:13] you always [14:13] help [14:13] yay arnaudmez_ glad you came right [14:13] dont forget to get all the linux peeps there to get launchpad accounts hey [14:15] never forget about [14:16] then we can help you form a loco there [14:16] ubuntu one [14:16] cool [14:16] you just have to outgrow fedora [14:16] haha [14:17] fedora [14:17] i use for myself [14:17] im teasing man [14:18] you can use what you like but not windows to have a loco [14:18] windows is ok to fix other peeps problems though [14:18] Maybe the day windows become OpenSource ... [14:19] who wants anything opensource that doesnt work [14:19] or can be killed so easy with all the bad stuff on the internet [14:19] as i've read, they've developed another web browser than internet explorer and want to make internet explorer opensource and leave it to the community [14:19] is that right [14:20] i dont know maybe they are trying to find someone to make it a decent browser at last [14:20] i always used firefox [14:21] but on linux now i mainly use opera-developer [14:21] I've tried Chrome today and it looks faster and less memory consuming but still i have to give it few days before i can start beating the fox and ask him what he have to say [14:22] i installed chrome here about a week ago to try something out but forgot now [14:22] give it another try but please first update [14:22] we never know [14:24] Hello all [14:28] hi Squirm [15:22] Got mysql replication to work [15:22] All automated with Ansible :P [15:22] booya [15:22] new territory to me ^^ [15:26] Chat later all, home time, sort of [16:11] And the electricity has returned [16:26] whats the good of a stable connection if you got no power sigh [16:30] so can one of you that can scroll back and find the link to tswane electricity load sheeding please [16:31] from inetpro around lunch time i think it was [16:35] http://www.tshwane.gov.za/Services/Electricity/Pages/LoadShedding.aspx [16:35] I'm so nice... [16:35] thank you gremble [16:36] you acvtually aint too bad [16:36] hehe [16:36] actually [16:57] hi kulelu88 [16:57] Hi [17:02] heh [17:02] 18 of: HGST Deskstar NAS 3.5-Inch 6TB 7200RPM SATA III 128MB Cache Internal Hard Drive (0S03839) [17:02] I just bought myself some disk space ;p [17:03] i pinged you twice Symmetria how come you didnt answer? [17:04] didnt see it [17:04] probably went to bouncer when I wasnt attached [17:04] ah ok can you do some work there for us? [17:05] we need contacts for ubuntu groups in the surrounding countries please [17:06] linux user groups would be better. [17:06] that as well will be good [17:06] kilos #nairobilug [17:06] best place to get those details [17:07] some of the UG guys are in there as well [17:07] good ty [17:07] i go eat [17:23] i wonder if i should join a lug before contacting lugs [17:23] You are in a lug [17:23] What did you think this is? [17:24] i mean official lug like glug and dbnlug [17:24] This is fairly official. You spent quite a lot of time a couple of weeks ago to make it official [17:24] lol [17:25] I'm not sure how much more official you want. Should we get a decree from the presidancy or something? [17:25] hmm... [17:26] hot tonight here [17:26] :P [17:26] 20/33°c they say [17:26] Mine says 29 [17:27] most likely arounf 2 or 3 am is about min [17:27] ya we 28°c in the passage [17:29] poor pro will be melting again [17:30] maybe i need to be an official member of ubuntu-za to approach other lugs [17:30] hehe [17:31] This used to be december weather. It's now moved to jan/feb [17:31] You're already an official member of #ubuntu-za [17:31] oh gremble really? [17:31] You just want to become an official member of the larger ubuntu community [17:31] wow theres a luck [17:32] * Kilos teasing [17:32] You're just thinking of excuses not to go talk to other lug's [17:32] need a laugh for today [17:32] ive already left my message with namibia admin peeps [17:33] i think they typical germans [17:33] fulla [17:33] * Kilos hides [17:36] You better hide, I heard they have camps for people that joke [17:42] kulelu88: where are you from? [17:42] haha [17:43] i will try them again in afrikaans and if they still dont answer ill have the task to inetpro [17:43] he can jawohl them [17:43] jahwol [17:43] sjoe ive forgotten [17:46] Hey from Nairobi, ladies and gentlemen. :D [17:46] hi stickyboy [17:46] welcome to ubuntu-za [17:47] Kilos: Thanks. [17:49] good evening [17:51] hi inetpro [17:51] wb captine [17:52] inetpro say hi to stickyboy from nairobi [17:53] https://kver.wordpress.com/2015/01/22/plasma-5-2-the-quintissential-breakdown/ [17:53] stickyboy: good evening [17:53] and welcome to #ubuntu-za [17:53] before i die ill tie up all the lugs in africa [17:54] hmm... [17:54] Kilos: Are there other LUGs in Africa? [17:54] Kilos: btw, are you from JozyLUG? [17:54] They tweet at us (@nairobilug) sometimes. [17:54] Kilos, gremble: we are not a LUG!!! [17:55] no stickyboy they next door to us [17:55] Ah, it's @jozilug. [17:55] but we have contacts with dbnlug and clug [17:55] inetpro tell him [17:55] hehe [17:56] Ah, ok. [17:56] Kilos: Nice. Yeah, #nairobilug is just a GNU/Linux agnostic LUG. [17:56] We also have a hardcore FreeBSD user. [17:56] and the guys in congo are busy growing [17:57] Kilos: Sweet. I totally wanna go to DRC. [17:57] stickyboy: nice to hear about you guys [17:57] * stickyboy is going to Rwanda on Friday. [17:57] We have an ex member of the Nairobi LUG in Kigali. [17:57] Gotta see what's up in Kigali, maybe help him set up. [17:57] stickyboy get me contacts at all the places you visit please [17:57] We have a website: http://nairobilug.or.ke/ [17:58] It's powered by Pelican and hosted on GitHub... we have democratic contribution process. [17:58] Pretty sweet. [17:58] Kilos: No problem. [17:59] we are rebuilding our website [17:59] actually superfly and inetpro are [18:00] Kilos: hopefully it will take another lifetime before you tie up all the lugs [18:01] no man ill be too tired [18:01] Speaking of tired, I'm still at work. I'm tired. [18:01] whew [18:02] Cleaning up some metadata and re-importing to some repository. [18:03] Kilos: please don't try too hard, otherwise you die too soon :-) [18:04] hahaha only the good die young you know that i tried and failed [18:05] inetpro: what is the difference bettern a LUG and us? [18:06] * Kilos listens carefully [18:07] gremble: Ever since the birth of computers, enthusiasts and fans around the world have collected together in garages, universities and pubs to talk about their interest, learn from each other and help promote their interest. Combine this with the huge popularity of Ubuntu, and you have the Ubuntu LoCo project. [18:08] So we are a group of users that use linux, but we aren't a linux users group? [18:08] LoCos are around to help promote or support Ubuntu and build communities in specific areas [18:08] Loco I assume is something like Local Community? [18:09] yep, LoCos are not meant to replace existing LUGS, but instead to complement them [18:09] wb captine [18:09] By virtue of assuming that collectives can be replaced? [18:09] stickyboy: hey! I use pelican for my personal blog, but opted for Nikola for the Ubuntu za site that I'm hoping to launch soon [18:10] gremble: Ubuntu LoCo Teams FAQ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoFAQ [18:11] A LoCo is a subset of a LUG [18:11] In essence [18:11] Yes yes. You keep referring me to what a LoCo is, and I understand that this channel is for the LoCo, but we are a LUG as well [18:11] Sorry [18:11] Or an UUG [18:11] haha [18:11] But that looks ugly [18:12] hehe [18:12] superfly: Never heard of Nikola... and I thought I was a hipster. [18:12] There you go 😉 [18:12] superfly: The Nairobi LUG's blog is all here: https://github.com/nairobilug/nairobilug.or.ke [18:12] 21 forks. :) [18:12] w00t [18:13] Members fork, write posts, and make pull requests. [18:13] Pretty democratic and git is fun of course. [18:13] thnx [18:13] hi all [18:14] stickyboy: I'm a bazaar fan, so our stuff is on Launchpad [18:15] We're! [18:15] *wee! [18:15] There goes the power [18:15] superfly: ai! I hope you had you phone charged up? [18:16] your* [18:16] 59% [18:16] Should be fine [18:17] ai! [18:19] Aight, y'all. I gots ta go. [18:19] meh [18:19] superfly: ? [18:19] meh [18:19] damn load shedding [18:20] hi Private_User [18:21] Hey [18:21] Fully charged laptop, phone and internet [18:21] I'm sorted :P [18:21] ay [18:21] and VPN into work in case our UPS just doesn't make it [18:21] yay too [18:22] Hey Squirm [18:24] 'lo superfly [18:25] You could call this an ubuntu fanboi group [18:25] hi Kilos [18:25] The african markets are too small, which is why the LUG should be important to us [18:26] Heck, once systemd is in ubuntu, I should be moving on [18:26] yes they will link up with us, if i understood stickyboy correctly [18:26] Void linux [18:26] xD [18:26] kulelu88: does it mean that much to you? [18:27] that 2 out of 3 so far, getting there [18:27] superfly: I chose linux for the purposes of being a *little* more secure. That monolith called systemd doesn't feel secure to me [18:27] It's just how I feel. I wont bash systemd. [18:27] It is useful [18:28] Less so than the monolith that is the kernel? [18:28] In Cape Town, CLUG typically steers clear of Ubuntu-ZA because they're mostly hardcore sysadmins who don't care much for newbies [18:29] The cape is different. they get decent attendance for all events. [18:29] gremble: The kernel is at least 20 years old now? I'll wait till systemd matures before coming back [18:30] Not really. GPUG seems to be having better attendance than ctpug [18:30] Really? [18:30] What is a pug? [18:30] haha [18:30] * Kilos listens too [18:30] kulelu88: then I guess you're moving to FreeBSD? [18:30] The dog with the funny nose? [18:30] PHP/Perl/Python? [18:31] Python User Group [18:31] superfly: I'm looking at Devuan [18:31] superfly: there are some distro's that don't uses systemd [18:31] aha [18:31] voidlinux for example [18:31] gremble: I know, I was being sarcastic [18:31]