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k1l_ceed^: the coders said it will not come back on unity7. because its hardcoded and they are coding on the newer unity8 now.00:00
ceed^k1l_, Oh well. I like Unity but have tried to get used to having it on the left and can't. I think I'll go MATE for now.00:01
ki7rwknoppix Xorg.0.log has a line that says "no devices detected"00:01
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stevecamdo i need to reinstall Ubuntu when I get my new computer, going from a 2nd Gen i7 with a h81 motherboard to a i7 4th gen with a z9700:05
daftykinsstevecam: what graphics do you use in each? the on-die intel?00:05
stevecami plan on it00:05
daftykinsstevecam: so i'd take a backup anyway, as is always wise, then just drop the drive in and see what happens :D00:06
k1l_stevecam: it should work.00:06
stevecam;-) ok00:06
daftykinsactually what version are you on there?00:06
daftykinsif 14.04+ i'd say that should be no problem at all00:06
stevecam14.1000:06
daftykinsmmm, newer kernel will help then00:08
daftykinsyep just see how it runs :)00:08
daftykinsstevecam: you can always fault-test with live sessions on a flash drive of course, too. for example if audio wasn't working on your install00:09
ki7rwk1l_, i suppose if my display died i wouldn't get the splash screen at bootup - all i get is a black screen when i should be getting the purple login screen00:13
k1l_k1l_: does bios work?00:13
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HowardTheDuck/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet or not present00:24
HowardTheDuckwshats that mean00:24
EriC^^it means the encrypted swap wasn't decrypted maybe00:24
ki7rwall of a sudden i can't get an screen - even knoppix fails to bring up a screen - do i have a hardware or software problem? ubuntu 14.04 64 bit nvidia chip (dell xps l502x)00:25
* ki7rw is currently running a memory test00:25
* ki7rw does get a boot splash screen but the screen goes black when the login screen is suppose to show up00:26
Bashing-omki7rw: Does a liveDVD boot ?00:28
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Guest12011i cant write to HFS no matter what i do? i tried sudo mount -t hfsplus -o remount,force,rw /mount/point and also tried to disable journaling00:36
HowardTheDuckhow do i fix /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet or not present00:37
EriC^^HowardTheDuck: check /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab00:37
Ahmuckwhere does ubuntu put virtualbox additions cd ?00:38
EriC^^Ahmuck: did you insert it using virtualbox?00:38
EriC^^!find guest-additions00:38
ubottuFound: virtualbox-guest-additions-iso00:38
HowardTheDucki did i dont know what to type on them tho00:39
Ahmucki've got it installed00:39
EriC^^Ahmuck: what do you mean?00:39
Ahmucki   virtualbox-guest-additions-iso  - guest additions iso image for VirtualBox00:39
EriC^^HowardTheDuck: see if they check out, use sudo blkid to get the uuid's00:39
Ahmuckhow do i use it in virtualbox00:39
EriC^^you can share files between the host & guest etc. etc.00:40
Ahmuckhrm, ok, that is not my problem00:41
Ahmuckcan't get the screen over 640x48000:41
EriC^^Ahmuck: modify /etc/default/grub00:41
daftykinsAhmuck: is this kodibuntu in a VM?00:41
EriC^^Ahmuck: add one of these numbers as vga=<number> after quiet splash00:42
EriC^^and set GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep00:42
EriC^^http://pierre.baudu.in/other/grub.vga.modes.html00:42
EriC^^numbers are there ^^00:43
EriC^^then sudo update-grub, try to restart00:43
Ahmuckok.  kodibuntu does this re-sizing by default.  is this a distro specific thing?00:43
* Ahmuck using lubuntu00:43
Ahmuckoh, hi daftykins00:44
Ahmuckno, not kodibuntu anymore, want to try plex00:44
daftykinsfresh lubuntu install? ah ok00:44
daftykinswas just checking it wasn't the need to purge nvidia* , no worries00:44
Ahmuckdaftykins, had a great conversation this afternoon with a fellow tech about kodi, it's history, it's design and operation.00:44
daftykinsneat!00:45
HowardTheDuckEriC^^,  the uuids do not match blkid and crypttab00:45
Ahmuckdaftykins, actually i checked that the otherday, does not appear the nvidia drivers were installed by default00:45
HowardTheDuckdo i replace the uuid= and what's ever with whats in blkid00:45
daftykinsAhmuck: they are in kodibuntu land i think, can't remember now from my VM. xbmcbuntu they definitely were00:45
Ahmuckso lubuntu does not do them by default?  i'm wondering why kodibuntu would be configured that way by default and lubuntu wouldn't.  not a standard?00:46
Ahmuckkodibuntu autosized by default.  this is the same behavior i remember 4-5 years ago.00:47
xpro256does someone know how can i install mac os x fonts on ubuntu?00:48
Ahmucknm, vbox additions fixed it.  i was thinking it would00:49
Ahmucki needed to reboot the vm00:49
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xpro256hi ubottu00:50
daftykinsAhmuck: *buntu can't include proprietary drivers as default because it goes against the 'free software' approach, the XBMC and Kodi derivatives include them for the sake of making the live sessions work on more hardware out of the box00:52
sfrankendaftykins: True, but didn't it have a easy-peasy driver isntall thing since forever now?00:54
sfrankens/isntall/install00:54
k1l_sfranken: ubuntu? look into the updates&software in the system settings. there on the last tab you can install the prop. drivers from the ubuntu repo00:55
daftykinssfranken: most don't work without full reboots that won't be useful on a live session00:55
sfrankenI know where it is00:55
sfrankenAh, yeah, a live session is a different beast alltogether00:56
daftykinsanywho, i think i am speaking of modified spins that aren't really supported here, so i shall have to hush :D00:56
jimmydgooglr00:57
gebbioneany reasons why a specific folder just wont list files through "Files" or Nemo ? i have no problems in bash / ls01:00
sfrankenHidden files? User ownership?01:00
W6NZXhey guys easy question I should know. other than my .zshrc is there another "generic" dotfile I can create that will execute commands when logging into the shell?01:01
sfrankenW6NZX: .login probably01:01
sfrankenI guess01:02
W6NZXtrying to have it load a screensaver counter.01:03
W6NZXi'll try .login01:03
sfrankenNot sure anymore though01:04
gebbionesfranken, Nemo and Files actually hang infinitely ... it is not that i cannot see the files ... the window is hanging in grey01:04
sfrankengebbione: That sounds like a GUI/driver issue to me01:04
sfrankene.g. not repsonding01:04
gebbioneyes01:05
sfrankenAre you doing anything "Crazy"? Like opening a 4GB preview of a MKV file? :P01:05
gebbionebut it is only with a specific folder01:05
sfrankenhmmm01:05
sfrankenAny *huge* hidden files?01:05
fxmulderwhats the best way to do a one time boot to text mode?01:05
gebbioneno hidden files ... there is a 2.7gb video being downloaded01:05
gebbionebut usually that is not a problem01:05
sfrankenThat might be it01:05
gebbionealso no preview ... view mode is list by default01:06
sfrankenNo recursive symlinks?01:06
sfrankenI had that once01:06
gebbioneno01:06
sfrankenThen I'm stumped01:06
gebbioneno recursive01:06
gebbionei can eog the images in the folder01:07
gebbionels in bash etc01:07
gebbionebut nothing on the windows01:07
sfrankenhmm01:07
sfrankenWhat does "$ top -u <your username here>" tell you?01:07
k1l_gebbione: what folder is it?01:08
gebbionek1l_, it is just a folder like many others with 5 images and a video file .... running on a SATA drive01:08
sfrankengebbione: the drive is still active?01:09
sfrankenJust making sure :p01:09
gebbionesfranken, i can access other folders01:09
k1l_gebbione: just a folder under /home ? is it specific to the location? do the same files work somewhere else?01:09
gebbionek1l_, it is a folder under /media/DriveName/parent/StuckFolder01:10
gebbioneand /media/DriveName/parent/anyotherFolder works01:10
k1l_so its a external hdd?01:10
gebbioneinternal01:11
k1l_what FS?01:11
k1l_filesystem that is. see "mount" if you are not sure01:11
gebbionentfs01:12
gebbionei just run sudo lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,SIZE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL01:12
gebbionemhhh somehow it looks like my whole memory is being used01:13
tempoe/list 'hacker'01:13
sfrankengebbione: What happens when you switch from Grid to List view? If not already on list view01:14
MannyLNJHello. Here is mky situatioon. I have access to an Toshiba Satelitte laptop with a broken LCD. Only the right side of the screen works, I want to turn this into a media and print server using ubunto. I am not good with command lines so i prefer a GUI, How would I access it over the network from a windows sytem eiother 7 or 801:14
Bashing-omfxmulder: One time text boot: boot to the grub menu, 'e' key for edit mode .. arrow down the the "linux" line and replace "quiet splash" with the term text . key combo ctl+x to continur the boot process to TTY1 .01:14
sfrankenMannyLNJ: Can't do that with a *broken* screen01:14
gebbionesfranken, i am on list view ... btw this is what top shows http://paste.ubuntu.com/9874759/01:15
sfrankenMannyLNJ: unless it has a VGA/DVI/HDMI port, just hook it up to a extern display01:15
k1l_MannyLNJ: attach an external monitor01:15
MannyLNJunable to attach an external monitor. No HDMI port and the VGA port has glue in the holes.01:15
gebbioneglue in the holes is brilliant01:16
sfrankenMannyLNJ: lol nice01:16
MannyLNJThe right side of the screen works, Left bottom has the damage01:16
gebbioneMannyLNJ,  replacing a screen might not be so complicated if worth it for the laptop01:17
sfrankenMannyLNJ: Time to learn the CLI ;)01:17
gebbionebtw sfranken does my top give you any clues?01:18
sfrankenMannyLNJ: Just kidding, it would help though. AFAIK there's no way to do the install "remote", unless you can install a VNC server01:18
sfrankenSorry gebbione, can you resend the link? I lost it :$01:18
gebbionehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/9874759/01:18
MannyLNJgebbione: I don't have cash for a new screen. sfranken I'm building the USB key now I'm hoping to be able to see enough to answer the prompts.01:18
MannyLNJBut once installed will I be able to get a GUI remotely?01:19
sfrankenMannyLNJ: NO01:19
sfranken*No01:19
sfrankenMannyLNJ: Install -> Login -> Install remote tools, enable access01:19
sfrankenMannyLNJ: then you'll be able to graphically login remotely01:19
MannyLNJsfranken: Thanks. I hope I will be able to get that far on this screen.01:19
sfrankengebbione: Top doesn't look weird to me, nothing really out of whack01:20
sfrankenExcept the 100% CPU usage for Nautilus01:20
gebbionethe fact it is using all my ram sounds crazy01:20
sfrankengebbione: Tried killing Nautilus?01:21
sfrankenMannyLNJ: No problems. Good luck!01:22
gebbionesfranken, i just did, i am trying to open the folder with Nemo and shoots to 100% CPU usage01:22
sfrankengebbione: Does Nemo create thumbnails of images automatically? That *might* be an issue here01:22
gebbionei guess it is very similar to Files01:23
gebbionei just use nemo cause Files has a weird problem with resizing columns01:23
sfrankengebbione: Does Nemo have a "Preview" option in the options? Like Files does01:24
sfrankenIf so, does that have a "Show thumbnails" option?01:24
gebbioneit is weird01:26
gebbionewhen it goes to this folder it switches to gallery view01:26
gebbioneand then i guess it gets stuck previewing01:26
gebbionebut my default is list viewing :(01:26
sfrankengebbione: That's why I advised turning the previewing off ;)01:26
gebbionenow i need to figure where to disable it from01:28
sfrankengebbione: Just out of curiosity.. what does "$ find <HDD drive> | wc -l01:28
sfranken" tell you?01:28
stevecamhey, i cant click on anything, my mouse is working, my keyboard is working, i dont want to reset, is there any suggestions?01:29
sfrankenstevecam: Open a terminal or drop to another TTY (Control + Alt + F3 for example), login and type: "sudo pkill -u $(whoami)"01:30
sfrankenstevecam: Without the " "01:30
sfrankenIt'll kill your processes and make it so you'll login again01:31
stevecamthanks but i have a process in a terminal i dont want to finish because its half way through a 4-hour job01:31
sfrankenstevecam: That's probably the reason your mouse is unresponsive in the GUI01:32
EriC^^stevecam: you could try setsid unity, but under your own risk01:32
sfrankenstevecam: Wait it out I'm afrai01:32
gebbionesfranken, disabling preview does not seam to make a difference01:33
gebbionefed up01:33
stevecammight just do that, something has stalled01:33
gebbionei ll use the folder from the shell :/01:33
stevecamjust funny how its just mouse-clicking that has stopped working01:33
OerHeksstevecam, so you have a cpu-extensive job, and your system is not reacting as you want it to?01:34
sfrankenstevecam: Tried reconnecting your mouse? That sometimes fixes my mouse-related issues01:34
OerHeksjust be patient01:34
stevecamOerHeks, just copying a large file, sfranken yes01:34
sfrankengebbione: Weird.. Again, out of curiosity: What happens when you run "$ find <folder> | wc -l" from the terminal? I'm wondering how many items are in there01:34
sfrankenstevecam: Ubuntu can get unresponsive when copying large files that takes forever01:35
gebbionesfranken,  still searching01:35
sfrankenstevecam: be patient is the best advice I can give you01:35
gebbionei did it from /media01:35
sfrankengebbione: That's overkill, you should try from the HDD. Otherwise it'll give an answer which is useless01:35
stevecampatience was plan-b01:36
sfrankenstevecam: plan-b just became plan-a by the looks of things?01:36
stevecamstill plan a, plan be was only a draft01:37
sfrankenstevecam: You *could* try "renice", but on your own risk!!!!!!111!!01:37
gebbionesfranken, it gives me 701:38
sfrankengebbione: hmm... weird, I'd expect it to be in the thousands01:38
sfrankengebbione: How *big* are those files?01:38
stevecam250gb01:38
stevecamoh whoops01:38
sfrankenstevecam: 250GB/4 hours? That's 62.5GB/hour01:39
sfrankenThat's not a fast drive01:39
gebbionesfranken, biggest is 277466668901:39
MannyLNJHello again. I have the flash drive made and booted but I can't see the menu fully. Is there a site that shows all the options screen by screen or can someone tell me what options to choose to start the install?01:39
sfrankengebbione: I'm guessing that's bytes..01:39
sfrankenMannyLNJ: 2nd option is install01:39
sfrankenMannyLNJ: 1st is live image01:39
gebbioneyes ... is is over 2.5 gb01:39
MannyLNJsfranken: Thanks. I'l;l choose option 2 and go from there01:40
sfrankengebbione: 2.5 GB is something else than 2.5 bytes. But thanks for the info. That could be your issue.. a 2.5 GB file takes a long time to preview01:40
stevecamit's over USB, friend wanted me to backup his disks to a portable hard drive, tried putting the portable hard drive in my computer and copying it that way..... but the external reader does something funny with the data that ubuntu doesnt recognise01:40
sfrankenMannyLNJ: No probs, good luck with the install01:40
gebbionesfranken, never had the problem before with similar ones01:40
sfrankengebbione: weird01:41
sfrankenstevecam: Ah. USB is touch-or-go... You could try tarring it first, then copying it01:41
sfrankenstevecam: IDK how much that'd save you though01:41
gebbionesfranken, anyway thanks for the help ... i ll be back if i feel like getting over this01:42
stevecamit works fine, just lost my mouse clicks :-(01:42
sfrankengebbione: No problems. Good luck!01:42
sfrankenstevecam: Ah, I got carried away again lol01:42
sfrankenstevecam: Anyway, renice. But on your own head be it bla bla disclaimer01:43
stevecamrenice changes priorities doesnt it?01:43
sfrankenstevecam: Yeah01:43
stevecami dont think its that sort of issue, the service for the mouse has became faulty, the reswt of the machine is responsive, just no mouse clicks01:44
sfrankenstevecam: Your 'cp' is getting a higher priority over your GUI, so a "renice" *should* (in theory) jumble it back the way it was01:45
sfrankenstevecam: since that's what's causing your mouse shenanigans01:45
dopesmokerinstall windows01:46
MannyLNJsfranken: is there a way to open a shell to view what IP the laptop is assigned during the install so I can reserve the same IP in my router?01:46
stevecamwhat am i renicing? i did some other process on the disk in a VM, got a big sluggish01:46
Jef91How do I specify in a control file to always install the i386 version of a package? Even if the system is amd6401:46
stevecamclosed the VM and my clicks disappeared01:46
sfrankenMannyLNJ: Control + Alt + T01:46
sfrankenJef91: apt-get install "package:i386" I believe01:47
sfrankenstevecam: Ah.. you'r running a VM as well? hmm... renice unity/nautilus?01:47
MannyLNJsfranken: nothing. I'll have to wait for install to finish01:47
sfrankenstevecam: Now I'm not so sure anymore if it's a *wise plan*01:47
Jef91sfranken, no - when creating a package01:47
sfrankenMannyLNJ: oh right, you're installing... Control + Alt + F201:47
Jef91not when installing something from the repos01:48
sfrankenJef91: No idea then, sorry01:48
sfrankenMannyLNJ: You'll be dropped to a terminal, you can get back with Control + Alt + F1 or Control + Alt + F701:48
gtuckerkellogg_having the strangest experience with update-manager in my current 14.04 desktop01:49
MannyLNJThanks, i see the IP but the HW address is covered by the crack. I see the IP is not showsing assigned in the router yet so I can't pull it from that screen. I'll have to wait for the install to finish01:49
stevecamahh, why didnt i think of this, just reloaded unity01:49
sfrankenMannyLNJ: "$ ifconfig | grep HWaddr"01:51
MannyLNJgot it! ifconfig wlan0 showed me what I need in a spot I could read it!01:51
gtuckerkellogg_update-manager appears  to run without complaint, but the GUI is only the "Software Updater" menu bar; the actual GUI window is nowhere to be seen01:51
sfrankenMannyLNJ: Nice!01:51
MannyLNJsfranken: I'm continuing to watch the install.01:53
gtuckerkellogg_This is the *entire* update-manager window: http://i.imgur.com/TGfbuRM.png01:57
bcgrownMy PC hangs during boot (after grub menu) with a blinking cursor. Same thing happens if I try to boot from a live  CD. what happened?? It was working fine yesterday... It's Xubuntu 14.0402:00
SoamyHello does anyone know how to mount a partition in dracut emergency mode?02:03
nirvHello, can anyone advice me: I use Ubuntu 14.10 64Bit, should I manually update kernel to 3.18? Why ubuntu-updater doesn't update kernel, are there any cautions?02:05
sfrankennirv: Usually a kernel update is more of an issue than it's worth02:06
sfrankennirv: Any reason you *need* 3.18?02:06
marcelino671Hello, I'm new in ubuntu, I have a notebook with 2.2Gh x3 and 4gb, but firefox use 25% of the processor and 15% of memory, with only 1 tab WTF02:07
marcelino671Chrome use less, but stay high02:07
nirvsfranken, you mean I might face some issues? I have some random system freezes caused by, I believe, Flash or Intel graphics.02:07
sfrankenmarcelino671: And what are you doing? How many extensions do you have?02:07
sfrankennirv: Updating a kernrel is only needed if you have *specific hardware* that's not otherwise supported02:08
sfrankennirv: Systemfreezes caused by Flash and/or Intel graphics won't go away with a newer kernel02:08
marcelino671sfranken: in firefox I only have Adblock, firebug and NoScript02:08
sfrankennirv: Are you running the Intel drivers?02:08
nirvsfranken, so kernel update won't fix any Intel/Flash-related issues?02:08
sfrankenmarcelino671: Adblock is a memoryhog ;002:08
nirvsfranken, got it.02:08
marcelino671sfranken: I go test disabling it02:09
sfrankennirv: If you're running the close source Intel drive: remove that and use the built in (kernel) driver02:09
sfrankennirv: That's what I'm doing on my system76 laptop, works like a charm02:09
sfrankennirv: (and faster as well, added bonus!)02:09
nirvsfranken, yep, I've installed latest Intel Graphics Installer via hooked by distr name in /etc/lsb-release02:09
sfrankennirv: Any reason? 99/100 times you don't need the Intel driver02:10
sfrankennirv: Since Intel supplies the kernel with a driver of it's own.. It's edgecases where you need it though02:10
sfrankennirv: so your mileage may vary02:10
nirvsfranken, I don't though about it. What are the reason I might consider for Intel driver then?02:11
nirvsfranken, I didn't knew generic kernel driver provides same quality as Intel's one.02:11
sfrankennirv: the only thing the intel closed driver sometimes does is hardwaredecoding of videos02:12
sfrankennirv: But that's the only thing I can find02:12
nirvsfranken, hm ok, I'll try to remove Intel driver then. Should I just find "intel" in Synaptics and "Mark for removal"? Sorry I am just a beginner with linux.02:13
sfrankennirv: Synaptics?? Wow, that's old. You mean the Software center?02:13
sfrankennirv: and idk, I never used the Intel closed driver02:13
OerHekssynaptic is alive and working great02:14
sfranken:)02:14
nirvsfranken, I use Synaptic time from time since it shows ALL software I install, e.g. I can't fine nearly half of 3d-party apps I install via .deb's.02:14
nirvsfranken, ok thank you.02:14
lenovohello everybody02:15
sfrankenlenovo: Hey02:15
lenovoi am new whit this02:15
sfrankenWelcome to the club then02:15
lenovoTnx02:16
lenovobeautiful distro02:16
sfrankenyup02:17
sfrankeneasy to use as well02:17
lenovoyea because of that i use it :D02:17
sfranken(even though I like a pure Gnome environment better, hence I use Ubuntu Gnome, Arch or Debian)02:17
marcelino671is posible to run photoshop with wine?02:17
sfrankenmarcelino671: Possible: perhaps, depends on the PS version02:17
sfrankenBut I wouldn't do it.. it's slow02:18
divbyz0anyone using .net with wine? i tried #winehq its dead02:18
marcelino671sfranken: CC version?02:18
lenovoyou have another program like photoshop02:18
OerHeksmarcelino671, check the wineHQ database02:18
bazhang!appdb | marcelino67102:18
ubottumarcelino671: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help02:18
divbyz0hi, i'm trying to install ms .net 4. through winefile and playonlinux I get error HRESULT 0x8007064f. i thought maybe i had to run as root but when i try sudo wine dotnetfile.exe it says you are not owner of .wine. ideas?02:18
bazhangdivbyz0, /join #winehq after checking the appdb02:18
bazhangmarcelino671, as well ^02:19
sfrankenmarcelino671: CC version won't really work I guess02:19
sfrankenmarcelino671: Tried GIMP yet? :P02:19
divbyz0bazhang, as previously stated, i have already and still am trying #winehq. what's the appdb?02:19
SchrodingersScat!winehq02:19
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu02:19
SchrodingersScat!appdb | divbyz002:19
ubottudivbyz0: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help02:19
OerHekshttp://appdb.winehq.org is the database with tests and solutions (maybe)02:19
bazhangthat^02:20
lenovoyou have inkscape program in menager its look like a CC02:20
divbyz0@CommonSense tried that horse hockey already02:20
lenovoPhotoshop02:20
sfrankenlenovo: Inkscape is for SVG images, GIMP is for general images and stuff02:20
bazhangcs6 works, to a degree02:20
lenovosfranken: oh okey i didnt know02:21
lenovotnx02:21
sfrankenlenovo: no problem02:21
lenovoi just install Linux Mint 17.1 C02:22
lenovoits cool02:22
anti-unixwhere to download 14.10 dailybuild?02:23
sfrankenanti-unix: You mean 15.04?02:23
sfrankenlenovo: I don't really like mint, but that's me02:24
lenovowhy ?02:24
anti-unixsfranken,  no,14.1002:24
sfrankenanti-unix: There are no daily builds for 14.1002:24
sfrankenanti-unix: Only for the current dev version, which is 15.0402:24
sfrankenlenovo: I don't know. Cinnamon doesn't suit me, and the mint version I tried I couldn't upgrade to the next version. I had to reinstall02:25
havoc_hiveI've never tried Cinnamon. Is there major difference?02:25
sfrankenhavoc_hive: Yeah, Taskbar on the bottom02:26
anti-unixsfranken,  i hope there still be dailybuild of 14.10,or i need speed a lot of time to update it02:26
sfrankenhavov_hive: It's a mix between Unity and KDE02:26
redruumsfranken: What about mate02:26
lenovoIts okey, for me, i tried manjaro but its not for me02:26
sfrankenredruum: Nope, I don't like old tech02:26
sfrankenlenovo: Which version of Manjaro? Kde?02:26
lenovoxfce02:27
havoc_hivesfranken: is that really it??02:27
sfrankenhavoc_hive: And different applications, but that's about it02:27
sfrankenanti-unix: No, sorry, no up-to-date builds, sorry02:27
redruumsfranken: unity is new tech that's meant for tablets but used on desktops. Could see if they had a lot of tablets to install on.02:27
havoc_hivesfranken: you can install that on top of gnome right? or is it a replacment02:28
sfrankenredruum: Eh, Unity works fine on desktops. Unity next is "responsive". Not that I follow, I use pure gnome02:28
redruumXfce is great.02:28
sfrankenhavoc_hive: Gnome is a desktop environment in itself, but Unity is based on Gnome libraries. But you can install Cinnamon/mate over core Ubuntu02:29
sfrankenhavoc_hive: MATE is "old" gnome 2.x built from the ground up with Gnome 3 as a base02:29
redruumXfce is fast and easy to configure but not to confusing like kde02:29
* divbyz0 likeums chinese food and ribs02:30
redruumsfranken: mate started as old, but reinvented itself into New.02:31
sfrankenWho cares what you use, as long as you enjoy using it and are cool with other people using what they like is my motto02:31
sfrankenredruum: I know, but it's still the "old" gnome 2 desktop metaphore02:31
* divbyz0 questions the hearts of passive-agressive extremists02:31
sfrankenNot that there's anything wrong with that perse, it's just not for me02:31
sfrankenBut guys I've got to to. It's 3:30 here and I need sleep02:32
lenovois here someone from serbia ?02:34
willemHi, I am trying to disable the alt-f, alt-e, etc. shortcuts for the File, Edit, etc. menus. I tried to disable this by following https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1113420 which works for Nautilus but not for e.g. Chrome or the Atom editor. Anyone has any ideas?02:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1113420 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Alt+<key> window menu shortcuts cannot be disabled" [Undecided,Confirmed]02:35
anti-unixi want developers build 14.10 up- to- date iso image02:36
Bashing-omanti-unix: There is none, the developers have moved on as 14.10 has been released .02:37
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anti-unix15.04 not sable at all02:39
anti-unixstable02:39
anti-unixi mean the dailybuild02:39
Bashing-omanti-unix: Up to date 14.10 : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop .02:40
anti-unixBashing-om, i think it is not dailybuild02:41
bazhanganti-unix, its not,02:41
Bashing-omanti-unix: I say again .. there is no such thing as a daily build anymore for a released version .. 14.10 has been released and the developers are working a daily build for 15.04 .02:43
bazhang!15.10 | anti-unix02:43
bazhangaugh02:43
bazhang#ubuntu+1 anti-unix02:44
anti-unixand the installer of ubuntu hard to choose External hardware to install,like fedora you can choose witch harddisk to install02:44
anti-unixharddisk02:44
tewardanti-unix: 14.10 is released as stable - it is no longer under development - 15.04 has daily images because it is under development.  (complaints you may have on Ubuntu are better suited for other channels, by the way)02:45
anti-unixit is not intuitive to install ubuntu on a external harddisk on ubuntu installer02:47
bazhanganti-unix, it is certainly possible, intuitive or not02:48
anti-unixbazhang not not intuitive02:48
bazhanganti-unix, thats not a support question though, you could file a wishlist bug on it02:49
bazhanganti-unix, other than that, complaints here are offtopic02:49
anti-unixbazhang, how02:49
bazhang!bug | anti-unix02:49
ubottuanti-unix: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.02:49
anti-unixok02:50
notmorpheustesting a new computer, seeing scary issue02:54
notmorpheuscan't restart vega z87 ftw02:55
notmorpheusit just shows code FF (fully functional) and fans etc stayy up02:55
notmorpheusshutdown/power up works02:55
havoc_hivenotmorpheus: whats scary??02:55
notmorpheuswell at first i was getting instant FF at boot, LED code on this mobo. after looking that up, it can be something scary like a bad mobo02:55
notmorpheusbut i reset CMOS and now i only see it when i try to "restart" vs shutdown/power on02:56
havoc_hivenotmorpheus: is there onboard reset and power buttons?02:56
notmorpheusthere are, yes02:56
havoc_hivenotmorpheus: are they working02:56
notmorpheuslet me check. i think they are. but ubuntu nullifies the reset button on the front of the case anyway (not sure why, but i read it handles it diff)02:57
notmorpheusi can reset from front case button when in bios02:57
notmorpheuswhoa02:58
notmorpheusnot what i expected. physical reset key on the mobo did appear to reset, but nothing came back up ever02:58
notmorpheusno video02:58
notmorpheusstuck in FF similar to if i software restart02:58
notmorpheusfans still running etc.02:59
havoc_hivenotmorpheus: interesting....02:59
notmorpheushavoc_hive: just reset from BIOS setup, let's see what that does.03:00
notmorpheuscrap same thing. shows FF code on LED and fans etc are running but no video coming up03:00
notmorpheusfeels like it's not faulty. someone just doesn't know how to reset proper03:01
notmorpheusmaybe it's just not restarting HDMI properly03:01
happyfr0ggAdobe patches two Flash player 0-day vulnerabilities. Please refer to http://paste.ubuntu.com/9875639/ for more info.03:01
havoc_hivenotmorpheus: i doubt it... ubuntu 14.04?03:01
notmorpheus14.04.1 + updated03:02
havoc_hivenotmorpheus: so if you go to shutdown in ubuntu, the computer screen darkens but never shuts down? fans still run and all right?03:02
havoc_hivenotmorpheus: was it working before you updating?03:02
notmorpheushavoc_hive: don't think so. i always update immediately. first boot of this box, new hardware, about 5 mins before i came on here03:03
notmorpheusrestart appears to log out, i see blinking cursor for a moment, ubuntu logo, then blue screen when monitor thinks signal is dead03:04
notmorpheusmobo instead of blinking many things like when you boot from cold03:04
notmorpheusjust shows FF. all fans still running03:04
ghost_22is therer anyway to factory restore a ubuntu03:04
havoc_hivenotmorpheus: im thinking %35 faulty board and the rest ubuntu. maybe trying using a live of sometype of flavor other than ubuntu and trying to restart the computer or shut down03:04
ghost_22factory restore my bad03:04
notmorpheushavoc_hive: 35% that 65% [what else]03:05
notmorpheushehe03:05
bazhangghost_22, reinstall from backups, yes03:05
ghost_22ok thanks03:05
havoc_hivenotmorpheus: the board has a systems check so when it says FF id trust it.03:05
havoc_hivenotmorpheus:%65 ubuntu fualt03:05
notmorpheusyeah. unfort they spit out FF immediately on boot sometimes if something else is wrong03:05
havoc_hivenot try that and get back to me... i gotta run really quick. good luck!03:05
notmorpheusalso stands for f8@&@ FAILure03:06
notmorpheusok thanks man03:06
havoc_hivenotmorpheus: yra try running a live of someother flavor and see what happens.if the same thing happens, then it could be the board. maybe try using the pref. that you need.03:07
notmorpheusi have win 7 i can use that to test reboot03:07
notmorpheusfinally it will see some action03:07
notmorpheusit's so excited03:07
havoc_hivenotmorpheus: yea that would work great.03:07
PrezidentUbuntu-dev have any channel?03:09
Prezident#ubuntu-dev is empty :/03:09
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Guest61619anyone know about minitube03:15
havoc_hivenotmorpheus: anything yet?03:28
Gradyhello, I am on my tablet, on my main laptop which runs ubuntu 14.04 I am trying to connect to and xfinity wifi hotspot.... with windows it automatically pops up a browser and lets me sign into my xfinity account, but nothing pops up like that on ubuntu... does anyone know how to connect to a hotspot?03:30
dxerfin system properties you can select your network and in there you can choose the wifi (if Ubuntu can find the wifi hotspot).03:31
dxerfI think in Unity you also have the network icon in the upper right hand corner so you can select that and choose the wifi hotspot03:32
Gradydxerf, yes, I selected the wifi hotspot and connected to it, but I cannot sign in... (it just says connected) whenever I try to load a browser page it says unable to connect, probably because I havent signed in (mind you it is open network from a local starbucks or something)03:34
MannyLNJI have ubuntu installed now,. How do I enable SSH connections and remote desktop?03:34
dxerfGrady: ahhh03:35
dxerfMannyLNJ: to enable ssh connections:  sudo apt-get install openssh-server03:36
oatsI am installing Ubuntu and have the options of drives /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, the former is 320.1 gb and the latter is 24 gb, which do I use?03:41
consolidatedis this going to be the only OS on the computer?03:42
oatsyes03:42
oatswell, presently windows 8 is on it03:42
MannyLNJdxerf: thanks. ssh server is installing. I'm setting up ubuntu to be a media/print server on a laptop with a damaged screen03:43
pavlosoats, which disk is faster?03:43
MannyLNJdxerf: now that the install completed How do I start the ssh server?03:43
oatspavlos: no idea03:44
EriC^^MannyLNJ: sudo service ssh start03:44
pavlosoats, you can install on any ... my ubuntu system 14.04 uses only 6GB. You can use the big disk for data03:45
Gradydxerf: am I kinda screwed?03:45
MannyLNJEriC^^: thanks. Says it already started. Do I need to make new passwords to ssh in with?03:45
oatspavlos: Why are there two partitions on mine? one so small and one so big?03:45
oatsthe smaller one has samsung in the name03:46
EriC^^MannyLNJ: you use the user's password to login, like ssh user@host , then you enter the user's password to login03:46
MannyLNJEriC^^: never mind I'm in over ssh. Now to figure out remote desktop03:46
pavlosoats, no idea ... if you dont want 2 partitions use gparted and remove one or reformat the disk to one big partition03:47
oatspavlos: What do you recommend?03:47
notmorpheushavoc_hive: it's not Ubuntu :-(03:47
pavlosoats, if you will use ubuntu on that disk and nothing else, format the WHOLE disk03:47
oatsook03:48
oatspavlos: Unfortunately it appears I can only choose one of the two03:49
oatsI guess I will go with 24 GB ATA SAMSUNG MZMPA02403:49
pavlosoats, that's fine03:49
oatsook thank you03:50
pavlosnp03:50
elvis_preciselyhi.  i have an .iso on a usb stick that i created with unetbootin.  i can install ubuntu but it does not boot alongside xp (the install method i chose)03:52
oatspavlos: also, I have no mouse cursor / control in the Ubuntu install. will it appear after it finishes?03:54
MannyLNJI excecuted  sudo apt-get install  xrdp and was able to comnnect from my Windows system to my Ubunto system using remote desktop but all I get is a grey screen. Any idea what I overlooked?03:55
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oatsokay bigger problem "executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed. This is a fatal error."03:56
oatswhat do I do03:56
elvis_preciselyi'll try wubi03:57
oatspavlos?03:59
elvis_preciselyoh hey wow!  ubuntu has parted magic!03:59
mini_hello03:59
mini_how to install skype on xubuntu 14.04 LTS?03:59
elvis_preciselymini.  u "do" know that microsoft is listening to your skype calls hey?03:59
mini_i know04:00
mini_i don't care04:00
mini_i use if for business purposes and most of my contact sare using skype04:00
mini_i use if for business purposes and most of my contacts are using skype04:00
Bashing-omelvis_precisely: Bt aware 'WUBI' is no longer supported .. and has issues with UEFI firmware .04:01
pavlosoats, I thought sdb is the 24 GB What install are you doing?04:01
notmorpheushavoc_hive: same behavior whether restarting from win or even from bios (save + restart, for ex.)04:02
elvis_preciselyokay thanks.  i shud be ok on this oldie dell pc04:02
oatspavlos: .. I may have chosen the wrong one04:02
oatsI googled and it recommends I disable secure boot, am doing that now04:02
pavlosoats, from your previous post, sdb is the small disk04:03
elvis_preciselymaybe time to just gpart the disk and install it that way04:03
oatsyes, I thought I chose sdb04:03
elvis_preciselyonly reason im installing ubuntu is this book on learning the command line suggests installing ubuntu04:03
elvis_preciselyhttp://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php04:04
MannyLNJI am using ubuntu 14.04 LTS. I can connect from a windows system using RDP but get a screen without any icons and just a X for the cursor. Any help to get my desktop to appear would be appreciated04:05
Bashing-omelvis_precisely: There is that 4 primary partition limit . Keep that in mind .04:05
elvis_preciselyhmmm... yes.  noted.04:07
oatspavlos: it appears secureboot is already disabled04:07
oatsretrying install selecting sdb04:07
Jensitheyho04:09
Bashing-omelvis_precisely: Possible that Windows XP has all the partitions in use, In MBR partitioning can not make more .. BUT .. make up a primary partition as "extended" and in that "extended" partition make up logical partitions. Ubuntu will happily install on logical partitions.04:09
pavlosoats, this may help ... http://www.howtogeek.com/175641/how-to-boot-and-install-linux-on-a-uefi-pc-with-secure-boot/04:12
oatspavlos: secure boot is off so apparently that's not the problem04:13
oatspavlos: Is there something fundamentally wrong with this whole system if install has so many problems?04:15
pavlosoats, win8 does some weird stuff hence I suggested wiping the whole disk and starting fresh04:15
pavlosoats, assuming you have no data to lose04:16
oatspavlos: everything I need backed up04:16
pavlosoats, so play with gparted, wipe the disk, format it ext4 and start the install04:16
elvis_preciselyyes.  ubuntu did happily install in a logical part but she wouldn't boot.  i even tried plop disk from hirens04:17
oatspavlos: however, upon ubuntu install, where it would otherwise allow me to customize partitioning, I cannot, because the "advanced partitioning options" is only accessible by mouse and not by tab/arrow keys/space for some reason04:17
oatsgparted?04:17
elvis_preciselyadios04:18
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pavlosoats, how about accepting the default partitioning and let it install. Tomorrow you can re-install and play with adv settings. No idea why the mouse or tab key does not work.04:18
wachpwnskiIs there a reason I can't right click on docky and pull up chromium incognito? and it only says New Window? Is it something I need to add to the desktop file?04:18
gtristanCan I use this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ubuntu/ppa to install firefox 3.5 on precise ?04:19
Guest7949hey guys i am newbie can you tell me how  to access windows partition04:19
oatspavlos: am trying install again. "This computer currently has windows 8 and ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS on it. What would you like to do? 1) Erase ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and reinstall 2) Erase everything and reinstall"04:20
gtristanI'm following this thing: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-firefox-35-on-ubuntu... and I'm not sure what to do next, I added the ppa and did sudo apt-get update, but it says there is no package firefox-3.504:20
pavlosoats, I'd say 204:20
oatspavlos: Why does it say ubuntu is on it? Does that mean the prev install filled up some of a partition?04:21
skweekgtristan, what's firefox 3.5?04:22
pavlosoats, no idea ... is there a way to boot off a usb stick that have ubuntu, and then use that to format the disk sdb and install there?04:22
gtristanskweek, firefox 35, in precise the default is 3404:22
gtristanskweek, 3.5 is latest stable I think04:22
dresdenanyone here in India?04:23
oatspavlos: certainly not that I know of04:23
somsip!info firefox precise04:23
ubottufirefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 35.0+build3-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 (precise), package size 45477 kB, installed size 89604 kB04:23
notmorpheushavoc_hive: fixed it!04:23
oatsI am actually using ubuntu to install via the "try ubuntu" option04:23
somsipgtristan: strongly suggest 35 is standard for 12.0404:23
gtristansomsip, hmmm, maybe I need to update it... I've been avoiding 'sudo apt-get upgrade'04:24
pavlosoats, not sure I understand your setup04:24
somsipgtristan: it's often the best way to upgrade04:24
* gtristan wonders how to 'sudo apt-get upgrade only-firefox-and-its-deps-please'04:24
oatspavlos: from usb disc image you can go into install or you can go into ubuntu demo and install from there04:24
somsipgtristan: apt-get install firefox IIRC04:24
notmorpheuskuhuh04:25
oatswhere install is an app on the desktop of the demo04:25
gtristansomsip, alright thanks for the help man :)04:25
somsipgtristan: np - just update first and --dry-run if you want to be doubly sure04:25
gtristansomsip, it's indeed downloading 3504:25
gtristanI had 34 for a while now04:25
pavlosoats, so your system (desktop|laptop) is booting off a ubuntu CD and it shows on the desktop install Ubuntu. You clicked on that, you select sdb as the install disk and that does not work?04:26
mach20xanyone here seen this and has been working on a port for Ubuntu https://www.flux.utah.edu/project/a304:26
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oatspavlos: actually since the options I showed you 1) and 2), it is not letting me move on in install04:27
oatsbut yes04:27
somsipmach20x: I would suggest the contact link would be the best first point of enquiry04:27
pavlosoats, I hope someone else can help since I have no other idea04:28
lotuspsychjemach20x: seems like some sort of virtual honeypot04:28
oatspavlos: nevermind it let me move on now, maybe it will give the same04:29
oatserror04:29
oatspavlos: Is english your first language?04:29
pavlosoats, nope,I'm Greek but live ins the US for 30 years04:29
mach20xlotuspsychje: how do you figure?04:30
oatspavlos: ook. Are you a computer developer or something?04:30
pavlosoats, since you're running off a CD, you should be able to start gparted and format your disk. the CD image runs on memory.04:30
oatspavlos: running off of USB actually04:31
pavlosoats, yes, my work is computers04:31
lotuspsychjemach20x: check this article: http://www.networkworld.com/article/2851394/security0/a3-advanced-adaptive-applications-the-end-of-server-malware-and-hacking.html04:31
pavlosoats, either CD on usb, right now it runs off memory so you can zap the disk using gparted04:31
oatsThe problem is I cannot use tackpad on my laptop to control cursor and so everything is difficult04:31
oatscan I do without mouse in terminal?04:31
pavlosoats, how old is the laptop?04:32
oats1-2 years04:32
pavlosoats, strange that touchpad is not recognized.04:32
pavlosoats, plug in an exteranl usb mouse04:33
oatsI don't have an external mouse :p04:33
lotuspsychjemach20x: check the #ubuntu-server guys, someone might have use it..04:33
oatsinstall almost done04:35
oatsexpecting the same error in04:35
pavlosoats, you can use the TAB key to go into menus and then other keys ALT-something for stuff but it will be rather difficult.04:35
oats1004:35
oats504:35
oats004:35
oatsokay maybe 20 more seconds04:35
oatspavlos: my laptop is touchscreen04:36
pavlosoats, how much ram on the laptop04:36
oatsI disabled touchscreen driver many months ago04:36
oatsfor some reason touchscreen works now on ubuntu04:36
oatssurprise04:36
pavlosoats, well, I dont have experience in that04:36
oatsmaybe I can use it instead of mouse04:37
pavlosoats, google 'touchscreen ubuntu' and you will find entries04:37
mach20xI'll do that, but I dropped it here because it would be really exciting to have this on end user electronics04:38
oatspavlos: I think ubuntu successfully installed04:40
lotuspsychjemach20x: looks pretty high-tech indeed, but snort/clamav/rkhunter can do many magic also04:40
lotuspsychjemach20x: there are few good ids/honeypots out there for ubuntu04:41
pavlosoats, take the usb stick out, reboot04:41
oatspavlos: mouse works now04:41
oatswoo04:41
oatsbut laptop brightness/volume controls are not04:41
lotuspsychjemach20x: i recently found that latest linux trojan in clamav's database, so its pretty up to date04:42
oatshow do I know that windows is gone?04:42
oatsnevermind brightness and volume work now04:42
skweekoats, I use a touchscreen with ubuntu 14.10 and I notice that I fat finger a lot of things and rarely use it04:42
oatsskweek: I disabled touchscreen on windows a while ago04:43
oatsthe screen gets very dirty04:43
skweekand I haven't found any gesture support, have you read anything?04:44
pavlosoats, what's the model of the tablet?04:44
oatspavlos: now my laptop thinks the USB is a computer. How do I make it normal USB again04:44
oatslenovo thinkpad s230u04:44
BoojeWookeManHow do I get data on size of packages installed in a fresh KU 1404? I got a 5G partition, & would like to remove some unnecessary packages. Thanks.04:45
pavlosoats, what? the usb has a live ubuntu image on it.04:45
oatspavlos: do I just delete everything on the usb?04:45
lotuspsychjeBoojeWookeMan: bleachbit can remove alot of unused files04:46
pavlosoats, sure, you can re-format the usb to whatever fs you want.04:46
oatswhat is NFTS vs xFAT?04:46
oatsin format options04:47
lotuspsychjeBoojeWookeMan: check also df -h from terminal04:47
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BoojeWookeManlotuspsychje: Thx. I want to find out the _disk size_ used by all the packages, so I can find something unnecessary I can remove & free up a big chunk o space. Suggestions for getting a list of installed package sizes?04:48
mach20xAnyone know how to stop my mouse cursor from flickering? It's been like this for awhile, and it's a little slow at making window layer transitions04:49
LinuxGoldsometimes documents can be outdated -- trying to figure out if Ubuntu have QT 5.4 packate for apt-get?04:50
somsip!info qt04:50
ubottuPackage qt does not exist in utopic04:50
somsip!info qt504:50
ubottuPackage qt5 does not exist in utopic04:50
somsipLinuxGold: do you have a more full name for the package?04:50
lotuspsychjeBoojeWookeMan: software centre and remove packages from there? dpkg should also be able to list them04:51
pavlosoats, you can start gparted and see all partitions in the drive. Hopefully sdb is linux and sda is win804:51
LinuxGold[  1%] Building CXX object manual/CMakeFiles/genManual.dir/genManual.cpp.o04:51
LinuxGoldall.h:159:24: fatal error: QQuickWidget: No such file or directory04:51
LinuxGold #include <QQuickWidget>04:51
LinuxGoldtrying to install musescore04:51
somsipLinuxGold: still not answering the question - what is the name of the package you want to find? qt...something?04:52
somsip!info qt-sdk | LinuxGold (perhaps?)04:52
ubottuLinuxGold (perhaps?): qt-sdk (source: qt-sdk): Complete Qt Software Development Kit. In component universe, is optional. Version 2ubuntu3 (utopic), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB04:52
somsipmaybe not...04:53
Linxcatanyone here use kvm and created filesystem passthrough? i have a permissions issue04:53
lotuspsychjemaybe he wants virtualbox-qt?04:53
LinuxGoldno04:53
lotuspsychje!details | LinuxGold04:53
ubottuLinuxGold: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)04:53
LinuxGoldok -- I'll figure the right question to ask04:53
LinuxGoldbrb04:53
lotuspsychjelol04:54
mach20xlotuspsychje: my machine is seemingly hanging on the install of snort in the software center04:54
lotuspsychjemach20x: what does it say?04:55
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LinuxGoldhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/9876708/04:57
lotuspsychje!info qmake04:57
ubottuPackage qmake does not exist in utopic04:57
EriC^^!find qmake04:58
ubottuFound: qt4-qmake, qt5-qmake, qt5-qmake-gles04:58
LinuxGoldapt-get install said that qt5-qmake is already the newest version.04:58
LinuxGoldI'll use !find -- thanks.04:59
EriC^^LinuxGold: you can try apt-get install --reinstall04:59
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mach20x!find snort05:00
ubottuFound: fwsnort, oinkmaster, snort, snort-common, snort-common-libraries05:00
LinuxGoldqt5-qmake-gles do not exist05:00
lotuspsychje!info snort | mach20x05:00
ubottumach20x: snort (source: snort): flexible Network Intrusion Detection System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.6.0-0ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 560 kB, installed size 1836 kB05:00
LinuxGold!info qt5-qmake-gles05:00
ubottuqt5-qmake-gles (source: qtbase-opensource-src-gles): Qt 5 qmake Makefile generator tool - OpenGLES. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.3.0+dfsg-1ubuntu5 (utopic), package size 1316 kB, installed size 5004 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)05:00
LinuxGoldthanks for the clues -- working on it now.05:02
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notmorpheushavoc_hive: bios flash to latest version fixed it, prob. overrode corrupt flash or something05:03
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`hypermist`I was trying to play a game (garrys mod) on my ubuntu when it said gpulock05:05
oatspavlos:only sda1, 2, and 505:05
`hypermist`i've changed drivers now but idk. if it will make a difference.05:06
oatssda5 is subset of sda205:06
oatspavlos: how do I know in gparted if sda is windows?05:09
LinuxGoldqmake -v05:10
LinuxGoldoops05:10
EriC^^oats: it's most likely ntfs05:12
EriC^^oats: type sudo parted -l05:13
MrAristoIs using "watch -n 1 cat /proc/net/wireless" the best way to monitor your signal from command line?  Or is there a way to specifically (and only) show "speed"?05:13
bruxCHello, was hoping to get some support with mounting a ntfs in fstab. its for a plex server and permissions aren't necessary for me.05:14
oatspavlos: thank you greatly for all your help05:14
oatsEriC^^: I cannot distinguish which one is Windows05:14
oatsI thought my new linux install overwrote windows05:14
miklcctoats: use "sudo blkid /dev/sd??" to view the volume labels05:15
oatstwo question maeks05:15
oats?05:15
miklcct? stands for any character05:15
LinuxGold!info QAbstractMessageHandler05:15
ubottuPackage QAbstractMessageHandler does not exist in utopic05:15
EriC^^MrAristo: you can use tail -f /proc/net/wireless05:15
oatsthe uuid's say nothing about the OS05:16
EriC^^MrAristo: or tailf /proc/net/wireless05:16
MrAristoEriC^^, For some reason using tail -f spaced my mind.  Thanks.05:17
miklcctHow about the type05:17
miklcctit should show the FS type05:17
EriC^^oats: yes, take a look at the fs type05:17
oatsboth have number 1 as ext4 and number 5 as linux-swap(v1)05:18
oatswhat does this mean05:18
EriC^^it's a linux partition05:18
EriC^^oats: please pastebin sudo parted -l05:19
bruxCcould i get some help with how to fstab a sdb1 with adequate permissions to accomodate my plex server so i may use the media thats on this drive?05:20
EriC^^MrAristo: no problem05:20
bruxCim new to linux and could use the help.05:20
EriC^^bruxC: what permissions do you need?05:20
MeRJShello05:20
bruxCi wouldn't mind if it was full permissions for everyone.05:20
bruxCit's in a lab and its content i wouldn't mind be compromised.05:21
bruxCbeing*05:21
oats_ubuntuEriC^^: http://pastebin.com/0vJ9dHpB05:21
oats_ubuntufirst time accessing freenode on Ubuntu05:21
EriC^^bruxC: you can give everybody read access if you'd like, do they need write access?05:23
bruxCi guess not.05:23
bruxCi mean it would be write access for adding new content05:23
oats_ubuntueric: any idea?05:23
EriC^^bruxC: who'd you like to own the files?05:23
bruxCand i have multiple devices that would like to tap into the drive05:23
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: 1 sec05:23
bruxCeventually i'll be having the plex server oversee the drive permanently05:24
oats_ubuntuook05:25
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: looks like there are 2 linux installations05:25
oats_ubuntueric bah how did that happen05:25
oats_ubuntuis windows completely gone05:25
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: are you in ubuntu right now?05:25
EriC^^nevermind05:25
EriC^^type df -h05:25
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: it looks like it05:26
EriC^^bruxC: who'd you like to be the owner of the files?05:26
bruxCplexserver05:26
oats_ubuntuhttp://pastebin.com/eeSBEV1Y05:26
EriC^^the user called plexserver?05:26
bruxCuser05:27
bruxCis the name05:27
EriC^^ok type id user and paste here05:28
miklcctoats_ubuntu: how about "fdisk -l /dev/sd?"05:28
bruxCuid=1000(user) gid=1000(user) groups=1000(user),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),110(lpadmin),111(sambashare)05:29
oats_ubuntuid: user: no such user05:29
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: not you :)05:29
oats_ubuntuook haha05:29
EriC^^bruxC: type sudo blkid and get the ntfs partition's uuid05:29
bruxC  /dev/sdb1: LABEL="PLEX" UUID="1AA4CA3AA4CA1861" TYPE="ntfs"05:30
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: did you have important data on the windows partition?05:30
EriC^^bruxC: where do you want to mount it? do you need it mounted at boot time automatically?05:31
bruxCpreferably automatically05:31
oats_ubuntuEriC^^:  in the file system browser on Ubuntu, under devices, I have Computer ( / ) and then another thing "20 GB volume" that's /media/oats/a64a1111-a740-4d54-b0d6-6a5d8974c24505:31
bruxCin case the server reboots. i'd like to make sure the files can be available for the plex server05:31
oats_ubuntuwhose contents are identical to Computer /05:31
oats_ubuntuand no I backed everything I needed from windows up05:32
miklcctoats_ubuntu: Can you pastebin the result of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sd?"05:32
oats_ubuntuhttp://pastebin.com/vDdD7bkL05:33
miklcctoats_ubuntu: please note that there is only one ? in the command05:34
EriC^^bruxC: UUID=1AA4CA3AA4CA1861 /path/to/mountpoint  ntfs-3g   defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=022,fmask=133    0       005:34
miklcctoats_ubuntu: please try again05:34
EriC^^bruxC: type sudo nano /etc/fstab and add that line, replace /path/to/mountpoint with the mountpoint05:34
bruxCwill do.05:34
bruxCwhere's a good mount point? /media/windows ?05:35
bruxCalso, once i create this new mountpoint folder, do i need to chmod it?05:35
oats_ubuntuhttp://pastebin.com/EDQ9G99B05:35
ovrflw0xwhy do fonts get thin and thick (dark) automatically on ubuntu 14.10?05:36
EriC^^yeah, chown it to your user:group and chmod it to 75505:36
EriC^^bruxC: ^05:36
oats_ubuntuEriC^^: Any idea?05:36
ovrflw0xwhy do fonts get thin and thick (dark) automatically on ubuntu 14.10?  i.e. it happens sometimes when i poweroff/on the laptop05:36
oats_ubuntumiklcct: sent05:36
bruxCchmod 755 /media/windows05:36
bruxCis that right?05:36
miklcctoats_ubuntu: I think you have accidentally deleted the windows partition when installing linux05:36
bruxCsyntax isn't my strong suit.05:36
fspkwon91I've got to say I havent added any repositories and the software is working for me and i have just about everything for everything installed05:36
bruxCstrength* nor is english for that matter.05:37
oats_ubuntumiklcct: That was intentional05:37
EriC^^bruxC: yes05:37
oats_ubuntubut why are there two05:37
fspkwon91darktable gets some good sharp images05:38
bruxCor is it chown 755 /media/windows EriC^^ ?05:38
fspkwon91and ive gotta say the gimp plugins make it damn near photoshop05:38
oats_ubuntuUnder devices I have "Computer" which is root / and I think it's mine, and then I have another device called "20 GB volume" at /media/oats/a64a1111-a740-4d54-b0d6-6a5d8974c24505:38
seronisi have 1000s of files that i extracted from an old windows *.zip.  all of the filenmes came out as    path\to\blah\realname.ext  instead of  putting the files into directories.  is there a command i can type that will rename/move them all in one batch ?05:38
EriC^^bruxC: no, chown user:user /media/windows05:38
oats_ubuntutheir contents look identical05:38
ovrflw0xwhy does font rendering changes and gets back to default by itself during reboots? on ubuntu 14.1005:39
miklcctoats_ubuntu: you have two hard disks05:39
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: i guess you installed linux on both partitions, you also have 2 swap partitions05:39
bruxC:) thank you, rebooting and crossing my fingers.05:39
oats_ubuntuWhat does that mean / what are the implications?05:39
miklcctoats_ubuntu: you may try to boot to another hard disk and see05:40
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: well for 1 i think you should switch the linux installations, as you're using the big disk for "/" right now, i think it's better as a separate /home partition and the other as "/"05:40
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: if grub is installed on both mbr's switch the boot order in the bios05:40
bruxCugh. Stupid plex.05:40
oats_ubuntuEriC^^: Should I delete one?05:40
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: yes05:41
oats_ubuntuI'm half asleep so not too good at parsing jargon :p05:41
miklcctoats_ubuntu: are you sure that the OS installed on the other disk is not useful to you>05:41
EriC^^boot into the other one, and delete the big disk and use it as a separate /home05:41
oats_ubuntuI already installed my things and updated the one I'm on05:41
oats_ubuntumiklcct: Not that I know of; my goal was to remove windows and install ubuntu05:42
oats_ubuntuI don't know why I'm on a 290 gb partition05:42
oats_ubuntuIs that bad?05:42
oats_ubuntuis there any way I can shrink the parition I'm presently on and delete the other 20 gb one?05:42
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: not really, are both hdd's?05:42
oats_ubuntuEriC^^: How would I know that? :p05:43
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EriC^^bruxC: no problem :)05:44
miklcctoats_ubuntu: I suggest you to move your linux installation to /dev/sdb, and make a /home and swap on /dev/sda05:44
oats_ubuntuThey're all from the same drive05:44
oats_ubuntumiklcct: How would I do all that?05:44
oats_ubuntuis sdb the "20 GB volume" it shows under devices?05:44
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: i mean is one an ssd?05:44
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miklcctoats_ubuntu: yes05:45
miklcctoats_ubuntu: I don't know if your 20 GB drive is an SSD or not05:45
ovrflw0xanyone?05:45
oats_ubuntuhow would I replace the contents of that one with the install I'm using  and make a /home and swap on a /dev/sda05:45
oats_ubuntuEriC^^: erm, I'm not sure05:45
ovrflw0xwhy does font rendering changes and gets back to default by itself during reboots? on ubuntu 14.10... i booted into 14.10 ubuntu and found that font look "thinner"!05:45
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: that's more trouble than it's worth05:45
EriC^^just boot the other installation, and install your stuff there05:46
EriC^^you can get a list of the packages you installed and auto install them there05:46
oats_ubuntuWhat is the downside of me using this install?05:46
miklcctoats_ubuntu: I would instead use the following method05:46
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: nothing, you can remove the other hdd and use it for something else05:46
ovrflw0xwhy does font rendering changes (fonts become thin) and gets back to default (thick) by itself during reboots? on ubuntu 14.10... i just booted into 14.10 ubuntu and found that font look "thinner"!05:46
miklcct1: boot from USB05:47
oats_ubuntualso I don't remember installing ubuntu twice, what if the other install is some failed corrupted install05:47
miklcct2. mount the partitions05:47
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: if both are hdd's i dont think it matters05:47
miklcct3. do a "cp --recursive --preserve=all"05:47
miklcct4. modify "/etc/fstab"05:47
miklcct5. chroot and install-grub05:47
miklcctdone05:47
oats_ubuntumiklcct I really don't understand all that05:48
oats_ubuntuwhat does eachs tep do, and how do I modify /etc/fstab?05:48
oats_ubuntuEric^^: Aren't they just paritions of the same memory?05:48
miklcctWhat it does is to dump the contents from the old disk to the new disk, preserving everything05:49
miklcctmodifying /etc/fstab and installing grub is to boot the new partition05:49
oats_ubuntumiklcct: Why do you recommend switching away from the disk I'm presently using?05:50
oats_ubuntuI mean how do I modify fstab/ what do I do in the file05:50
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oats_ubuntuand what do I chroot05:51
ovrflw0xwhy does font rendering changes (fonts become thin) and gets back to default (thick) by itself during reboots? on ubuntu 14.10... i just booted into 14.10 ubuntu and found that font look "thinner"!05:52
oats_ubuntuEriC^^: You still here?05:52
oats_ubuntuwb mijlcct05:53
lotuspsychje!fstab | oats_ubuntu05:53
ubottuoats_ubuntu: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions05:53
lotuspsychjeovrflw0x: check your garfix card driver loaded05:54
EriC^^garfix05:54
lotuspsychjeovrflw0x: in additional drivers section, or sudo lshw -C video05:55
EriC^^is that a typo?05:55
lotuspsychjegrafix :p05:55
miklcctoats_ubuntu: I suggest you use different disks for system and data05:55
miklcctoats_ubuntu: It is to reduce the chance of damaging the data if the system is broken05:56
oats_ubuntumiklcct: Isn't the data on the system though? What do you mean?05:56
oats_ubuntuCan you explain how these are broken up?05:56
miklcctoats_ubuntu: You are currently having /home in /05:56
miklcctoats_ubuntu: It is dangerous, the risk of losing data due to system malfunction is high05:56
ovrflw0xlotuspsychje, fonts look thin only in "nautilus"05:56
eltigreMy PC just failed, and I need to access an encrypted home dir via USB... how can I do that?05:57
ovrflw0xeverywhere else is ok05:57
eltigreecryptfs-recover-private doesn't seem to do anything except mount the same placeholder under /tmp/05:57
oats_ubuntumiklcct: But where else would /home/ be in? How would copying it to a smaller parition change any of that?05:58
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: he means having it on the larger disk05:58
ovrflw0xlotuspsychje, not in nautilus but "Files  3.10" on ubuntu 14.1005:59
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: from a sane perspective "/" needs about 7gb and will grow with installed programs to about 10gb tops, for a desktop 20gb is plenty enough05:59
oats_ubuntuEriC^^: I don't understand; what is mik talking about with the security risks then05:59
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: it makes sense to have "/" as the 20gb disk and home on a separate disk thats way larger06:00
EriC^^( cause it will have all your personal files, music, etc. etc. )06:00
LinuxGold!info qt5.406:01
ubottulibphonon4qt5-4 (source: phonon): multimedia framework from KF5 - core library. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.80-0ubuntu2 (utopic), package size 165 kB, installed size 653 kB06:01
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: he is talking about the filesystem getting corrupted, if it's on another filesystem in case your "/" gets corrupted it will survive06:01
oats_ubuntuook I see06:01
ovrflw0xlotuspsychje, ?06:01
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: most people use 1 partition as though, ext4 is pretty good06:02
EriC^^wont hurt to have a separate /home though, and you can share it between distros, it's easier to reinstall, etc. etc.06:02
lotuspsychjeovrflw0x: did you check your graphics driver yet?06:02
oats_ubuntuEriC^^: so, is the idea that, I put ubuntu on the 20 gb one and mount its home folder to a directory in the 290 gb partition?06:02
ovrflw0xlotuspsychje, it is open source radeon driver06:02
lotuspsychjeovrflw0x: other drivers show up your list?06:03
miklcctoats_ubuntu: That's exactly what I meant06:03
ovrflw0xlotuspsychje, driver=radeon06:03
ovrflw0xdriver=i91506:04
lotuspsychjeovrflw0x: can you check additional drivers (hardware) icon to see if other drivers list?06:04
ovrflw0xlotuspsychje, i don't think this is drivers issue as everywhere else except file browser fonts look ok06:05
oats_ubuntuook06:05
lotuspsychjeovrflw0x: when did your font start to show 'thin'? after update?reboot?06:05
ovrflw0xlotuspsychje, after reboot06:05
lotuspsychjeovrflw0x: try create a new user and test nautilus font from there plz06:06
oats_ubuntuWhat is the use of vim and emacs in linux? Is it a programming environment?06:06
ovrflw0xok brb06:06
lotuspsychje!emacs | oats_ubuntu06:06
ubottuoats_ubuntu: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs, ed - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code06:06
WangXufengI ‘don't know how to use  ibus to input pinyin.I use sougou pinyin in windows.06:06
lotuspsychje!info vim | oats_ubuntu06:06
ubottuoats_ubuntu: vim (source: vim): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In component main, is optional. Version 2:7.4.273-2ubuntu4 (utopic), package size 956 kB, installed size 2341 kB06:06
oats_ubuntuWhy do people use vim and emacs instead of netbeans and eclipse and gui editors alike?06:08
lotuspsychjeoats_ubuntu: everyone has another purpose with packages06:09
oats_ubuntuWhat do you mean?06:09
Stanley00oats_ubuntu: because they like it. Nexttime, if you see one, just ask them why :P06:09
lotuspsychjeoats_ubuntu: meaning users choose their own flavors, for different kind of goals06:09
somsipoats_ubuntu: and these sort of questions are better in #ubuntu-offtopic as they are not support questions06:09
oats_ubuntuook thank you06:11
lotuspsychjeovrflw0x: any changes?06:11
ovrflw0xlotuspsychje, in guest account fonts look OK and now fonts in default account also started looking ok06:12
lotuspsychje!yay | ovrflw0x06:12
ubottuovrflw0x: Glad you made it! :-)06:12
ovrflw0xlotuspsychje, but fonts changes by itself in default account!06:12
ovrflw0xlotuspsychje, as i said this problem occurs sometimes during reboot06:13
miklcct!ubottu06:13
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots | Make a clone of me: /msg ubottu botclone06:13
lotuspsychjeovrflw0x: not sure what causes this, check your logs maybe06:13
ovrflw0xlike which log06:13
lotuspsychjeovrflw0x: syslog, dmesg06:14
lotuspsychjeovrflw0x: wich ubuntu version was this again?06:14
ovrflw0x14.1006:14
lotuspsychjeovrflw0x: you tested 14.04 for same issues?06:14
ovrflw0xno06:14
lotuspsychjei reccomend it06:14
ovrflw0xnah06:15
miklcctIs it possible to synchronise outlook.com contacts in Ubuntu 14.10?06:15
lotuspsychje!info thunderbird | miklcct06:19
ubottumiklcct: thunderbird (source: thunderbird): Email, RSS and newsgroup client with integrated spam filter. In component main, is optional. Version 1:31.4.0+build1-0ubuntu0.14.10.1 (utopic), package size 31279 kB, installed size 85160 kB06:19
dw1hey, what's the best gui tool to view files being opened and closed?06:19
miklcctlotuspsychje: I'm using Thunderbird as the mail client, but what I want is the contacts.06:20
wafflej0ck_miklcct, you need to export the contacts into CSV or VCF something that can be imported into other programs in most cases, typically unless someone hacks something together MS doesn't release software for Linux (skype aside)06:21
somsipmiklcct: as above, eg: http://support.real-time.com/tbird/outlook_import.html06:22
miklcctwafflej0ck_: I am synchronsing the contacts among my devices and I would like to find a way to also synchronise it onto my Ubuntu laptop06:22
roo79xhi all I have a dell latitude e5410 running xubuntu 14.04 64bit I have an issue with the alpsPS/2 Alps dualpoint touchpad, if I tap on the touchpad it "right clicks" instead of left clicks?06:25
wafflej0ck_miklcct, yea you're probably looking at third party sync solutions then, here's one I found on a quick Googling about Linux and contact sync with outlook https://www.memotoo.com/ they have a free version so you could give it a shot before you buy if you need it to sync more than 50 contacts06:25
ZAMorning / Evening. Can anyone advice me on how to change the boot order on Linux? so to have the Windows duel boot 1st, and also how to turn off the boot menu for the Linux partition06:26
lotuspsychje!grub | ZA06:27
ubottuZA: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub206:27
ZAthanks peeps06:27
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jayprohey guys...i'm trying to install vid.stab. what directory is ffmpeg installed? i need to configure it06:29
EriC^^jaypro: type whereis ffpmeg06:33
jayproEriC^^ what i got was "ffpmeg:"06:35
EriC^^jaypro: it's not installed i think06:35
EriC^^jaypro: ubuntu uses a different one av video something06:35
somsipjaypro: what version of ubuntu? It changed from ffmpeg to avconv recently06:35
EriC^^avsomething06:35
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somsip!find avconv06:35
ubottuFile avconv found in devede, libav-doc, libav-tools06:36
somsiplibav-tools in the parent package06:36
jayproim actually on debian and assumed it would be in the same directory06:37
somsipjaypro: then we can't help you, and that's why - assumptions between ubuntu and debian often do not work06:37
roo79xhi all I have a dell latitude e5410 running xubuntu 14.04 64bit I have an issue with the alpsPS/2 Alps dualpoint touchpad, if I tap on the touchpad it "right clicks" instead of left clicks?06:37
kokutHello, anyone knows how to kill some process that is not being listed in the system monitor? Because I'm running apache on this machine and its stuck on an infinite loop, using 100% of my CPU06:38
somsipkokut: sudo killall apache206:39
kokutsomsip: thanks man, it turns out firefox was involved too somehow06:40
somsipkokut: if firefox was calling a page running on apache, that would make sense06:40
kokutWell i thought the processing was going to be made by apache process not by firefox06:40
theadminkokut: Well sure but a badly-written page may well cause a browser to hang.06:43
`hypermist`I can't seem to play anygame on ubuntu with my gpu06:44
`hypermist`I get GPULOCK error. which will happen soon06:44
neocherhi06:46
`hypermist`what can i do. guys06:47
`hypermist`EriC^^, hello ?06:47
somsip`hypermist`: what video card, what version of ubuntu, what drivers?06:48
`hypermist`gpu: nvidia gts 450 ubuntu:14.04 uhm drivers should be 346.35 some1_06:49
`hypermist`somsip, *06:49
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somsip`hypermist`: busy now - maybe someone else can help, but post the real version of the drivers - don't guess06:52
roo79xhi all I have a dell latitude e5410 running xubuntu 14.04 64bit I have an issue with the alpsPS/2 Alps dualpoint touchpad, if I tap on the touchpad it "right clicks" instead of left clicks? my settings -> mouse and touchpad http://i57.tinypic.com/33cmzh5.png06:54
`hypermist`somsip, all i did was apt-get install nvidia-current06:57
`hypermist`thats all i did lol06:57
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i-_meta-/ /input jump_last_buffer_displayed07:11
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utsavwhere to find .bashrc file to update PATH variable for Oracle Java07:16
somsiputsav: in user home, eg: ~/.bashrc07:16
utsavsomsip: thank you so much07:18
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* pqbd_ the big D is silent, the little q makes alot of noise.07:24
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miklcctSorry I have missed the conversation before as I didn't set up quassel core07:39
miklcctWhat's the way to synchronise outlook.com contacts into Ubuntu?07:39
somsipmiklcct: maybe check the logs as it's a bit old now.07:41
somsiphttp://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/01/26/%23ubuntu.txt07:42
miklcctWhat I googled on the web about Thunderbird and outlook.com and found a link: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/102340907:50
miklcctThat means should I 1. Use another mail client, or 2. move all the contacts back to Google?07:50
cyborg4Hey everyone! Have a question about the command line. Is there any way to have a command that runs, and then as soon as it exits to start it again?07:53
LMNOPyea just run it again07:54
Stanley00cyborg4: or put it in while : loop07:54
LMNOPprobably easier my way07:55
somsipcyborg4: yes, but to what end?07:55
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adrian_1908wouldn't && work?07:55
Stanley00cyborg4: there's also watch command, if you need *watch* the output07:56
cyborg4I have a server program which is fairly prone to crashes. I just want it to run again when it terminates.07:57
cyborg4It'll run fine for hours on end, so I want it to happen programmatically so I don't have to sit there and watch it.07:57
Stanley00cyborg4: then just put it in a while loop07:57
adrian_1908infinite loop it is then :D07:57
cyborg4So, a while loop in an sh file would do the trick? it waits for command execution?07:58
somsipcyborg4: use a supervisor07:58
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somsip!info supervisor | cyborg407:59
Stanley00cyborg4: yep, something as *while : ; do your_command; done*, and when your_command finish/crash, it run your_command again07:59
LMNOPyeah ok well07:59
ubottucyborg4: supervisor (source: supervisor): A system for controlling process state. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.0r1-1 (utopic), package size 238 kB, installed size 1423 kB07:59
somsipcyborg4: eg, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-manage-supervisor-on-ubuntu-and-debian-vps07:59
LMNOPwhat if supervisor crashed07:59
LMNOPnow your in same situation08:00
somsipLMNOP: applies to anything, so moot point. What if the server crashed? What if the network went down, etc etc ad nauseum08:00
LMNOPi guess you get my point yep08:01
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LMNOPhow do you know it is more likely his app will crash than supervisor08:01
somsipcyborg4: what server program is it that is prone to crashing? The last time I had that question, someone was running mysqld without enough RAM and was crashing due to OOM errors. Which showed the problem he was trying to solve was not the right problem to solve...08:02
cyborg4somsip: minetestserver08:02
cyborg4So this would work, yeah:08:03
cyborg4#!/bin/sh08:03
cyborg4while :08:03
cyborg4do08:03
cyborg4 /CarmaServ/bin/minetestserver08:03
cyborg4done08:03
somsipcyborg4: ok - no experience of that but if it's official I would imagine it should be robust so you may have another problem08:03
LMNOPyoucould just restart the servier periodically08:03
LMNOPbut whatevs08:03
cyborg4The server restarts every day automatically08:04
somsipcyborg4: so what is the real problem - crashes or daily restart?08:04
cyborg4Crashes. But they're caused by a known bug in the server software.08:04
somsipcyborg4: this would be more flexible. Set it up like this, and a cronjob to check the server is running or service restart. https://gist.github.com/MarkTraceur/99826008:06
cyborg4somsip: It's not a service at all, it's a binary08:07
somsipcyborg4: as above08:07
liathhey there.  could anyone tell me if it is possible to have two interfaces with the same gateway?  I know about all the quirks, but I'm doing it so I can seed linux images (and download a few more) but need to be able to use one NIC purely for torrent traffic08:21
liaththat way i can catch it all and make sure it goes into a low priority queue on my router08:22
shadowsThis runs detached: ffmpeg -i [input] [parameters] -y [output] </dev/null >/dev/null 2> ffmpeg.log &08:27
shadowsI want to remove the log file after ffmpeg is complete. The following will not detach. Any ways to do this on the command line without having lots of shell-scripts. ffmpeg -i [input] [parameters] -y [output] </dev/null >/dev/null 2> ffmpeg.log && rm ffmpeg.log &08:27
shadowsI've tried wrapping it in parenthesis, didn't do any good.08:28
somsipshadows: wouldn't image && will work like that is it requires the output of the first to trigger the second, and you can't run the first in background with ffmpeg & && rm log for obvious reasons08:29
somsip*imagine08:29
shadowsI see08:30
decciI am using Ubuntu 14.04 and I am trying to understand what is www-data all about?08:31
somsipdecci: that's a statement rather than a question. what do you need to know08:31
deccisomsip: If I want to upload a file with normal user, how will it get changed to www-data08:32
afidegnumhello, I have installed gmp and php5-gmp but I am still getting ... the requested PHP extension gmp is missing from your system08:32
afidegnumcan anyone please help?08:32
somsipdecci: add user to www-data group, make /var/www sticky for groups08:33
somsipdecci: eg http://serverfault.com/questions/6895/whats-the-best-way-of-handling-permissions-for-apache2s-user-www-data-in-var08:33
aeonltdafidegnum: that's rather specific have you tried the php channel?08:33
afidegnumapt-get install php08:33
afidegnumoooh, sorry, I am just confused08:34
deccisomsip: Thanks08:34
silviuHi guys. there is any way I get gateway ip address and  dns ips with vsphere sdk?08:38
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decciAny internet monitoring tool available for Linux e.g which user has consumed how many data based on ip address?08:43
aeonltddecci: i think if you could find something for your router that does that it may be more useful08:44
aeonltddecci: unless your pc is your router...08:45
decciaeonltd: Does it mean we dont have any avl tool..08:45
decciaeonltd: We have around 20 user. They have internet connection and we work based on firewall. I want to know who consumed how many data. based on client side activity how shall I check that or monitor that08:46
agustin_mark_kevhello on quick question how can i use gnu parallel and proz sorry for asking here08:50
liathdecci, you'd have to have a good router. then soem decent monitoring tools, somethign like bandwidthd should work08:50
agustin_mark_kevi typed parallel proz "link here" but it says warning input is read from the terminal only experts do this on purpose press ctrl-d to exit08:51
decciliath: I am aware of bandwidthd but it shows the certain logs of users08:51
aeonltddecci: ok, unless traffic is run through your pc i don't think it's possible. but i'm kinda a noob at networking08:51
agustin_mark_kevi tried reading the man page but im quite confused08:52
aeonltddecci: you could monitor YOUR data, and collate data from all pcs using individual software. that sounds more possible08:52
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agustin_mark_kevi read the wiki examples i cant understand08:52
agustin_mark_kevanyone please08:52
JustSighDudesjesus almost identified to nickserv here08:53
liaththat is why I suggested running bandwithd on the router. you could then tell who uses how much data, when, etc08:53
Ash12345 /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Ash12345 hbspqjxlmfnn08:55
liatherm.  ash ^^^?08:55
cfhowlettAsh12345, thanks for the password, m8!08:55
Ash12345Hi Guys08:56
aeonltdoh boy08:56
`hypermist`how do i know if i have the right graphics card drivers08:58
Ash12345I have wordpress site .... I want to upload file in my web hosting directory with www-data user privilege08:58
aeonltd`hypermist`: well what card do you have?08:58
`hypermist`gts 450 nvidia08:59
DJonesAsh12345: Just make sure you change that password that you've posted in the channel08:59
`hypermist`DJones, i decided to see if it was real08:59
`hypermist`i don't think it was08:59
`hypermist`cause i tried to do the good old ghost test08:59
`hypermist`xD08:59
`hypermist`not being mean but im just saying08:59
`hypermist`aeonltd, gts 450 nvidia. i couldn't use the .run file cause it would say X server running then Nouveau was stopping it after i stopped the X server09:01
aeonltd`hypermist`: i think you may need to uninstall nouveau first; nouveau is the open source nvidia driver09:04
`hypermist`i decided to use apt-get install nvidia-current in the end so idk if that done anything09:05
el3sources09:19
el3!sources09:19
ubottuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.09:19
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Guest96949http://asperasoft.com/09:22
Guest96949interesting09:22
Guest96949i found that when searching for rsync errors09:22
Guest96949said 100x faster than rsync09:22
sumeyasay some things09:23
cfhowlett_!ask | sumeya09:23
ubottusumeya: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:23
abailarriHello. I created a daemon with upstart and I putted on /etc/init path. I started and when I execute initctl list | sort I see myservice stop/waiting, and I can't stop or restart09:26
abailarriAny suggestions please?09:26
pseudonymousOK - I'm struggling with ~/.xsession-errors eating up ALL available diskspace if I a) leave mumble running and b) have suspended at some point. - It keeps spawning pulseaudio related errors. Is there a way to just not have pulse or *anything* logging to .xsession-errors ? It can't be intended that the damned thing chugs through 74GB of space in the space of a few hours.09:28
pseudonymousabailarry: way too little information - you should probably paste your upstart script (paste.ubuntu.com). Even so, maybe you should just write a regular init script. Ubuntu will be switching to systemD soon anyway09:29
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MrN00Bsis anyone using Macbook pro here ?09:45
cfhowlett_!mac | MrN00Bs,09:45
ubottuMrN00Bs,: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages09:45
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doomlord_ii am09:49
MrN00Bsdoomlord_, which mac ?09:49
doomlord_but not wth ubuntu on it. (ubuntu on desktop).. MBPR 13" not iris pro, just base09:50
MrN00Bsdoomlord_, PM ?09:50
doomlord_i'm not so gung ho about splitting the laptop ssd to install linux09:51
doomlord_sure PM09:51
doomlord_i would like to though if there's an ultra small distro09:51
doomlord_i frequently ssh into my desktop linux box, and use synergy between them09:52
aeon-ltddoomlord_: you can cut linux down to a few gb if you want09:52
aeon-ltdbesides... VMs!!!!09:53
doomlord_supposedly one can run an xwindow server on the mac09:54
doomlord_and run a desktop machines' windows on the mac?09:54
aeon-ltddoomlord_: if you've got the x11 application09:54
doomlord_basically my reason for owning a mac is to actually run OSX (eg , ability to use iOS SDK)09:54
aeon-ltddoomlord_: i'm running arch in a VM now, just under 2GB storage space used09:55
doomlord_ok09:55
doomlord_heh i'm one of these people who wants to configure linux to be as much like the mac as possible09:55
* EllieGoulding is running a hackintosh dual booted with Arch09:56
doomlord_i'm after the closest possible clone of mission-control (since mountain lion mission control is actually good)09:56
doomlord_but it makes less difference on a desktop machine.  Apple laptop & linux desktop is a nice combination09:56
aeon-ltddoomlord_: i think compiz had some feature that was like expose09:58
doomlord_its ok but on linux I gravitate back to simpler environments like XFCE/XFWM. the compiz stuff has all the eye candy, but i've never found it as satisfying as either snow leopard was, or as mission control is now09:59
aeon-ltdyeah if osx is anything it's elegant09:59
EllieGouldingeh yosemite looks cartoony :/10:00
doomlord_the magic is on a laptop: the trackpad gestures combined with the way missioncontrol behaves10:00
EllieGouldingmission control is nice, I have a hot corner that brings up all my desktops10:00
aeon-ltdEllieGoulding: they will learn, hopefully10:00
EllieGouldingalong with being able to drag windows to another or make one on the fly10:01
aeon-ltdEllieGoulding: this could be their windows 8 lapse10:01
EllieGouldingwell idk if its THAT bad lol10:01
doomlord_on a linux desktop I like the extra control you can get with a keyboard, and 'focus follows mouse', and use of scrollwheel for desktops (i've got scrollwheel on window title taking it between desktops)10:01
EllieGouldingthough metro design == no design10:01
aeon-ltdi'm not sure why win8 is so hated though, the stuff they added doesn't kill the experience, but to non tablet users it's mostly just useless10:02
EllieGouldingI just hate windows10:02
doomlord_all the compiz stuff has never worked well on multiple monitors. (oh thats another thing missioncontrol does REALLY well now - desktops per monitor switched independantly)10:02
EllieGouldingthough I think win8 is the best one out cuz it has slightly better performace and it doesnt remind me competely of windows 9810:03
EllieGouldingalso they added some much needed stuff like a reset button, although kinda half baked10:03
hiexpohello all10:05
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hiexpobazhang, holla10:08
klxl?10:20
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klxl聊什么的地方10:22
cfhowlett_!vn | klxl10:22
ubottuklxl: Để được trợ giúp về Ubuntu bằng ngôn ngữ Việt, xin vui lòng /join #ubuntu-vn. Rất vui lòng được giúp đỡ10:22
cfhowlett_!cn10:23
ubottu如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw10:23
klxl。。。10:23
klxl难道都是外国人?10:26
cfhowlett_!cn | klxl10:27
ubottuklxl: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw10:27
klxlIs the friends all over the world?10:27
cfhowlett_klxl, go to the china channel for support.  no google translate10:28
klxl...La Lingua non è Buona, di difficoltà di comunicazione, Andiamo.10:29
aeon-ltdoh boy10:30
aeon-ltd!it10:30
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)10:30
klxlTo understand boy10:30
klxl。。。10:30
aeon-ltdentshuldigung, ich konnen verstehen nicht10:31
aeon-ltdklar?10:31
cfhowlett_aeon-ltd, stop please.  don't encourage/feed10:31
aeon-ltdok10:32
l0calcan someone help me ,i have a problem ,posted question on askubuntu but no solution . Can someone help me ?11:02
cfhowlett!ask | l0cal11:02
ubottul0cal: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:03
l0calOK, sorry and thanks . My problem started after i rebooted my pc from the terminal , not doing any upgrades ,just a simple reboot , i saw some warning about low space on the home folder nothing else but i think it is unlikely that this is the problem . My computer booted just fine ,but when i type my login password it freezes and nothing happens . I can't acces tty shell with CTRL+ALT+F(1...6) ,when i do this sometimes it loads all tha11:04
cfhowlettl0cal, you ... ignored a warning message about storage space?11:04
l0calthe login screen and freezes , i managed to get to a login in tty once put after i type my password it reloading the login screen . I have installed on this machine a fluxbox windows manager and i could login there , and list my files and did some commands i saw on related11:05
l0calproblem posts , don't know if it's stupid or not .. tried reinstall ubuntu-desktop , unity what . nothing works for me ..11:05
l0calyes i did that11:05
cfhowlettl0cal, when the /boot gets tool full of old kernels, what you describe is common.11:06
l0cali saw a warning relating low space on home directory11:06
l0cali don't know why i can't acces tty shell11:06
cfhowlettl0cal, :)  sounds fixable.11:07
l0caldon't know what to do to acces my machine and all my files .. i'm afraid not to lose some of my files , firefox tabs ..11:08
Swfthow to compile an .exe using gcc on linux?11:08
SwftCOMP=mingw doesn't build an .exe11:08
cfhowlettl0cal, boot from ubuntu USB.  mount hdd.  clear cruft.11:09
l0calwon't lose my data  on that partition ?11:10
cfhowlettl0cal, delete FILES not partitions ...11:10
Swftcfhowlett; do you have any idea?11:10
cfhowlettSwft, nope.  when I know nothing, I try not to comment.11:11
cfhowlettsorry11:11
Swftcfhowlett; you gotta know somethin'11:11
cfhowlettSwft, your issue?  false.  flattering but ... no.11:11
Swftcfhowlett; do you use Ubuntu?11:12
cfhowlettSwft, all the time.11:12
Swftcfhowlett, which version?11:13
l0calcfhowlett why do you think i can't acces tty  ?11:13
cfhowlettSwft, I know nothing about your issue, so can't help.  sorry.11:13
geirha##workingset might be able to help with cross compiling11:13
cfhowlettl0cal, overfilled /boot would do that.11:13
l0calso you say by booting an ubuntu usb i could manage space ?11:14
l0calhow could i do that11:14
cfhowlettl0cal, boot usb.  mount hdd.  delete files - carefully and selectively.11:14
cfhowlettl0cal, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/removing-old-kernels11:15
l0calthanks i read this11:16
cfhowlettl0cal, alternative: boot the usb, mount the hdd, chroot to the file system and use terminal commands to clean kernels.  (actually safer than my initial suggestion)11:18
l0calthe solution of the problem overwhelms me11:19
l0calpreetty noob11:19
l0calbut i'll try ..11:19
cfhowlettl0cal, this one.  ask for more guided assistance.  I've never chrooted.  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/proper-way-to-remove-old-linux-kernels/11:20
xubuntu616starting 14.04.1 upgrade. connected as edman747 on the other computer11:20
l0calso you think that old kernels images have overflowed the boot directory memory ?11:21
mehdip2007hi guys how can i change the color of my selected line?11:22
minimecmehdip2007: If I understand you correctly, this would be part of the theme settings.11:30
mehdip2007exactly for example when i select something it become blue but i want to be orange11:30
mehdip2007minimec, i donno where can i change it11:30
imagecreativehello11:31
imagecreativesomeone know if xubuntu have spy programs like ubuntu?11:31
MACscrdoes ubuntu 14.04 generate 70-persistent-net.rules by default? I know it at least a release or so ago it didnt generate one11:31
k1limagecreative: neither xubuntu nor ubuntu do have spy programs included11:32
minimecmehdip2007: look here... http://askubuntu.com/questions/63126/how-do-i-change-the-selected-items-color11:32
imagecreativewhat about canonical?11:33
iptableimagecreative, programs which auto-search your search string in amazon and other locations for you are hardly "spy" features ...11:33
cfhowlettimagecreative, canonical doesn't have "spy" programs11:33
iptableimagecreative, and you can disable that feature if you don't want that in the settings.11:33
imagecreativethey are taking information11:33
k1limagecreative: what about what? you read some FUD11:33
k1limagecreative: can you give some facts and not some missinformations?11:34
cfhowlettimagecreative, no FUD please.  if you don't want, disable or install a different buntu11:34
iptableimagecreative, either canonical nor ubuntu have spy software installed to let anyone spy on you. It's oensource, so if you don't believe, read the code11:34
somsip!adlens | imagecreative11:35
ubottuimagecreative: To hide online search results in Ubuntu Unity, go to System Settings > Security and Privacy > Search and toggle the option off.11:35
iptableimagecreative, who is taking what information? Please provide details/prove. Or is this something you hae heard from centos/fedora/arch fansbois?11:35
es-emHi everybody :) I need some help with a terminal command I am using inside a python program I wrote. Somebody feels like helping me?11:35
k1limagecreative: if you talk about the amazon lense, that is shut down since months and will not send any data.11:35
imagecreativeis not about believe or know11:35
imagecreativei am asking because i dont know11:35
iptableimagecreative, cool. and you got your answer.11:35
imagecreativethank oyu11:35
cfhowlettimagecreative, the answer to your question: NO11:35
imagecreativeyou11:35
iptableno problem11:36
iptablecfhowlett, do you ever sleep? ;)11:36
cfhowlettiptable, China standard time m811:36
iptableah11:36
iptablethat explains a lot ;)11:37
SnoRiderHello, I'm trying to download  BitchX-1.2c01-svn but it isn't found, do I need to download an apt-get search location?  I believe it's development.11:37
k1l!info bitchx11:37
ubottuPackage bitchx does not exist in utopic11:37
geirhaOh, someone's revived BitchX?11:37
SnoRiderYes, it's ipv6 compatible now11:38
iptableSnoRider, you mean compile? apt-get won't install stuff that's not in the repos.11:38
k1lSnoRider: its not included in ubuntu repos. so see their webpage on how to install that11:38
SnoRiderAh, I thought it might be on one of the devel repos11:39
SnoRiderThanks11:39
iptable!info info11:39
ubottuinfo (source: texinfo): Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 5.2.0.dfsg.1-4 (utopic), package size 89 kB, installed size 438 kB11:39
iptablecool11:40
wentianhow install flash for firefox11:49
cfhowlett!flash | wentian11:49
ubottuwentian: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash11:49
`hypermist`how to know if. ubuntu is blocking something from allowing incomming and out going connections ?11:50
k1l`hypermist`: in general: if you dont have a program listening on a port there is no incoming on that port.11:50
wentiani intall flash soft center ,but it now work11:51
`hypermist`but thing is. bitcoin wallet lets say it needs to connect to peers to sync, but that isnt happening11:51
`hypermist`its not connecting to peers11:51
`hypermist`so something is blocking connections11:51
wentiannot work with firefox11:51
`hypermist`so thatas my issue k1l11:52
`hypermist`s/thatas/that11:53
wentiani install xubuntu on my old thinkpad11:53
wentianexit11:54
wentiani live in shanghai, where r u11:55
cfhowlett!ot | wentian,11:55
ubottuwentian,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:55
wentianok11:56
wentianmy flash is not work11:56
wentianother is ok11:56
`hypermist`k1l, ?11:57
k1l`hypermist`: so what errors do you get? needs that some special network setup? does the router block connections?....11:57
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`hypermist`k1l, no error, it worked before i coverted to linux11:59
k1l`hypermist`: what program is it?12:00
`hypermist`its a bitcoin wallet basically12:00
`hypermist`but its called neoscoin12:00
k1l`hypermist`: what ubuntu exact? can you start it from terminal and see if there is an error?12:00
`hypermist`14.0412:00
`hypermist`hypermist@hypermist-PC:~$ neos start12:01
`hypermist`Starting Neos12:01
`hypermist`NeosCoin server starting12:01
`hypermist` all i get k1l12:01
k1l`hypermist`: "my car is somewhat broken, fix it" "what is broken" "something on my car"  how are we supposed to fix it if we dont know what you do and what you get at all?12:01
`hypermist`thats all i get no errors :|12:01
`hypermist`it just doesn't connect to the peers on the outside world. ? is firewall blocking the app from doing so ?12:01
GandiashoreQue pasa nanoooooooooooos12:02
Gandiashoreunos crossy roads hay buenos?12:02
k1lno, its not blocking per default.12:02
cfhowlett!es | Gandiashore12:02
ubottuGandiashore: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.12:02
Gandiashoreok ok12:02
GandiashoreCOME ON NANOOOOOOOOOS12:02
GatoLokoGandiashore: do not write in all caps, it is against the rules. Next time you will be expelled.12:02
GandiashoreTHis night, 23.0012:02
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`hypermist`k1l, cause i can tell you it worked on windows. and i have a vps running the exact same version. but without gui12:03
cfhowlettzero tolerance for zero manners.  I like.12:03
MACscrI hate to reask this question, but does ubuntu 14.04 generate 70-persistent-net.rules by default? I know it at least a release or so ago it didnt generate one12:03
MACscri have one on my system, but with ethX interface names versus biosdevnames12:04
k1l`hypermist`: windows got nothing to do with it now. i dont kanow that program and what setup it needs. so maybe you have a better chance for a solution if you ask the program coder for help12:04
MACscrso im just trying to figure out why12:04
`hypermist`k1l,  but thing is why would it work on my linux vps same version. but not my linux home pc ?12:04
k1l`hypermist`: vps got a totally differen network setup.12:05
k1l`hypermist`: please ask neoscoin guys what setup they need and if that is a known issue.12:05
`hypermist`that i can do but. i cannot expect a reply till like 3-4am my time12:06
`hypermist`lol12:06
k1l`hypermist`: #neoscoin exists12:06
`hypermist`k1l,  there is a .sh file on the website @ neoscoin.com12:06
`hypermist`and yes  i know k1l but dev is asleep12:06
TheBigDealHello12:08
TheBigDealHow can i disable the Extras repositories when doing release upgrades?12:09
k1lTheBigDeal: comment them in the /etc/apt/sources.list12:10
k1lmake a # in front of the lines there12:10
TheBigDealk1l, i got a temporary file12:10
TheBigDealk1l, /var/tmp/sourcesXXZWT7bJ.list12:11
k1lTheBigDeal: ?12:12
TheBigDealk1l, i don't know12:12
fattest for a small web hosting company (that i want to start) (hosted with ubuntu 12.04 server) what internet speed do you need to satisfy users?12:12
tomodachifattest: depends on the user, and what kind of content the user wants to provide through the web page12:13
fattesttomodachi: no its a web hosting company via FTP12:13
fattestso there will be lot of users12:13
fatteststatic html/php pages will be transferred12:13
k1lTheBigDeal: so what is the issue with commenting out the extra repos in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?12:14
TheBigDealk1l, i can comment them, but i was not sure about that temporary file12:14
`hypermist`TheBigDeal, he said /etc/apt12:15
`hypermist`not /var/tmp12:15
k1lTheBigDeal: i dont know what you want with that file in /var/tmp12:15
TheBigDealhydrajump, yes it is redirecting to it12:15
TheBigDealo.O12:15
ciscamhi! can somebody tell me why this works fine when i open the script class file via console but not when i compile it as a jar? http://pastebin.com/5TTXkk7v12:15
ciscamthe jar wont create a text file, the class file does12:16
TheBigDealfattest, btw, your question is really weird, not sure but you need to provide the fastest internet speed to your server to satisfy your users12:16
TheBigDealk1l, your file is redirecting to that file in the /var/tmp12:17
fattestTheBigDeal: i get around 7mbps on speedtest.net12:17
fattestif i have like 300 users, will that be enough?12:17
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k1lTheBigDeal: what system is that?12:17
TheBigDealk1l, 14.1012:17
k1lwhat exactly?12:17
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TheBigDealk1l, Ubuntu12:18
TheBigDealk1l, btw, it works12:18
k1lTheBigDeal: please show in a pastebin: "lsb_release -a", "uname -a" and "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list"12:18
TheBigDealfattest, It depends on your server, and what you will provide12:19
fattestTheBigDeal: i'll allow them to host web sites - HTML/PHP pages12:20
TheBigDealfattest, web hosting?12:20
fattestyes12:20
TheBigDealfattest, hmm, I'm not sure about that, that has nothing to do with Ubuntu server, try to google that to figure out how much internet speed do you need12:21
fattestok12:21
TheBigDealfattest, for a web hosting server of course12:21
fattestok12:22
Ben64could probably ask in #ubuntu-offtopic but i'll save you the trouble. 7mbit is way too slow12:22
TheBigDealk1l, Everything is okay now, thanks, i know that things are messy a bit ;)12:23
TheBigDealBen64, ++, i would say that12:24
fattestBen64: what should i be getting?12:24
Ben64#ubuntu-offtopic if you want to have a discussion12:24
adacGuys how can I mount an encrpted home directory? Currently tried this: ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase /media/username/763e53fe-cce3-4fe6-ab5d-50426cbd408e/home/.ecryptfs/usernam/.Private but it doesn't seem to work. I get: "Error: Unwrapping passphrase failed"12:25
k1lfattest: that heavily depends on the services running on the server and the amount of users connecting to them. but hardwaretalk and "what to buy" questions are better suited into #ubuntu-offtopic12:25
adachmm actually I wanted not to use the passphrase but my login password12:25
TheBigDealk1l, it's a web hosting server12:26
`hypermist`k1l, its got to be on my end12:27
`hypermist`cause i even just copied the whole source files from my vps and its still not connecting to anyone12:27
aphoriseIn trusty I have all 4x universe "deb + deb src" in my /etc/apt/sources.list & have done "apt-get update" - but whatever I try to install from universe repo's it say's unable to find.12:28
aphoriseWhat am I be missing?12:28
k1l`hypermist`: that program is not in the repos. so better ask their support what you need to do to make it run. just ask in their channel or forum12:28
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k1laphorise: what program?12:29
aphorisek1l  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=haproxyctl -12:30
aphoriseoh sorry my bad thats in vivid only12:31
k1laphorise: yep, vivid only.12:31
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mehdip2007guys i change my theme and now my sound indicator has no buttoms12:37
adacLooks like this is the problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/102853212:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1028532 in ecryptfs-utils (Ubuntu) "ecryptfs-recover-private mounts in /tmp but does not decrypt" [Low,Fix released]12:47
apg___Hello12:49
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kaabeHi! I have a crontab entry which stores stout and sterr to the same file (`/usr/local/bin/rsync-nfs.sh >> /var/log/rsync/rsync.log 2>&1`). How can I send sterr to a separate file, while still keeping both sterr+stout in one file?12:52
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Tzunamiikaabe: Using the command 'tee'. Loads of info on the Net regarding it. This is an example: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/692000/how-do-i-write-stderr-to-a-file-while-using-tee-with-a-pipe12:57
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kaabeTzunamii: that should do, thanks!12:58
kaabeIt makes sense to use tee in this case, just to newb to think of that. ;)13:01
stemidwhere does ubuntu mount webdav shares when I use connect to server in the gui? I want to run grep commands on the files that I mounted but I can only see them in Nautilus and not in mount(8) output.13:02
ZeljkoWhat is the system requirements for latest Ubuntu version ?13:02
tomodachiZeljko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements13:02
k1lstemid: it uses gvfs. see under /media/username/13:03
stemidI think you mean /run/media but no it's not there. I'm running find on / to find it now.13:03
k1lstemid: no i dont mean /run/media i mean /media/username13:04
stemidI found it under /run/user/1000/gvfs13:04
stemid/run/media is otherwise where stuff gets mounted automatically by gnome in ubuntu for me.13:04
stemideh sorry, I'm in the wrong channel. my home desktop runs ubuntu, this is my laptop with fedora. haha13:04
stemidmy bad13:04
Tzunamii>.>13:04
stemidbut I found the path anyways13:04
k1l:/13:04
quackgyverHey. My dedicated Ubuntu desktop comp broke, so I bought an identical one and put the old HDD in it13:06
quackgyverbut the BIOS cant find a bootable device13:06
quackgyveror w/e13:06
quackgyveri tried to follow instructions on repairing the grub but nothing seemed to really work13:06
quackgyveri kept getting weird errors so13:06
quackgyverdoes anyone know what i can do?13:06
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EriC^^quackgyver: do you have a live usb?13:08
quackgyverEriC^^: Yep!!13:08
EriC^^ok! load it up!13:08
quackgyverOk, one sec13:08
quackgyverIt's gonna take a good few mins, so ill highlight you when its done13:08
EriC^^ok13:10
muazzamHello13:15
quackgyverEriC^^: "Try Ubuntu" right?13:16
EriC^^yeah13:17
quackgyverAight, a few more mins13:17
TheNumbUbuntu, not even once.13:18
quackgyverEriC^^: aight im in!13:19
quackgyverany suggestions?13:19
EriC^^ok, type ls -ld /sys/firmware/efi13:19
EriC^^is it found?13:20
bonhoefferi’m trying to touch a file in this directory: drwxrwxr-x 11 www-data www-data 4096 Jan 26 07:21 plugins — my username “tim” is a member of www-data, i get permission denied13:20
EriC^^bonhoeffer: did you just add him to the group?13:20
bonhoefferyes13:20
bonhoefferreload bash?13:21
EriC^^try to logout and log back in13:21
quackgyverEriC^^: its just loading13:21
quackgyverblinking marker13:21
quackgyveroh there we go13:21
EriC^^ok13:21
quackgyverno command found13:21
quackgyveris that a lowercase L in ld?13:21
EriC^^no command or no file found?13:21
EriC^^yes13:21
quackgyversorry i forgot the ls13:21
quackgyverit says "cannot access" etc13:21
bonhoefferEriC^^: works13:21
quackgyver"no such file or directory"13:21
pratikHi13:22
EriC^^bonhoeffer: ok13:22
bonhoefferthanks13:22
EriC^^quackgyver: ok type sudo parted -l , paste it in paste.ubuntu.com13:22
EriC^^bonhoeffer: no problem :)13:22
pratikFor torrent Your Ubuntu says -> " Can't get transmission to download to a location on the mounted drive...."13:23
pratikI thought ubuntu is good OS13:23
quackgyverEriC^^: loading, one moment13:23
jattyou thought correctly13:23
TheNumbpratik: what file systemd?13:23
TheNumbfile system*13:23
TheNumblol13:23
TheNumb:D13:23
TheNumbtoo.much.lennart.13:24
quackgyverEriC^^: http://pastebin.com/v48RkGnD13:25
pratikFile system in Ubuntu 10.04 TLS13:25
TheNumbpratik: no, the file system of the drive.13:25
pratikdonno13:25
TheNumb...13:25
TheNumbpratik: yet you're complaining it doesn't work.13:26
EriC^^quackgyver: ok, it looks like the installation was out of an efi machine13:26
TheNumbpratik: please paste mount to paste.ubuntu.com13:26
EriC^^quackgyver: you're currently booted in legacy mode on the live usb13:26
quackgyverEriC^^: Yeah13:26
TheNumboutput of "mount"13:26
EriC^^quackgyver: does your pc have uefi?13:26
TheNumbEriC^^: modprobing efivars should do in that case.13:27
TheNumbI'd think.13:27
BluesKajHiyas all13:27
quackgyverEriC^^: Yeah on my original computer I installed it with UEFI enabled, but then it turned out that i had to disable it in favor of legacy because Ubuntu wouldn't even run otherwise13:27
TheNumbBluesKaj: hiya.13:27
quackgyverso I enabled legacy, updated the bios13:27
pratikHow to get mount info13:27
quackgyverit wouldnt boot13:27
quackgyverthen i reset all bios settings13:27
TheNumbpratik: open the terminal and type in mount.13:27
quackgyverand suddenly it worked13:27
quackgyverthen the computer broke, so i switched it for this one13:27
quackgyverand just swapped the hdd13:27
quackgyverthats the story :)13:27
Tzunamiipratik: sudo mount|column -t13:28
EriC^^quackgyver: ok, it's installed in uefi mode still13:28
quackgyverEriC^^: Do I need to reinstall it without UEFI turned on?13:29
EriC^^quackgyver: you need to either switch uefi on, and fix a couple stuff13:29
quackgyverEriC^^: If I turn it on it won't find Ubuntu13:29
quackgyverso I need to fix some stuff :p13:29
stuff1EriC^^, still going strong my friend?!13:29
EriC^^quackgyver: it will be easy13:29
EriC^^stuff1: ?13:29
quackgyverOkay cool13:29
stuff1oops,13:30
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EriC^^ah, hey :D13:30
bruxCmust have gotten disconnected last night.13:30
bruxCHey man, thanks again for your help.13:30
EriC^^quackgyver: enable uefi and boot the usb in uefi mode13:30
bruxCIt's working like a champ. I'm a little bummed out that I couldn't figure out the problem myself.13:30
pratikhttp://pastebin.com/FiTLwrCs13:30
EriC^^bruxC: great, no problem man13:31
quackgyverEriC^^: when you say boot the usb in uefi mode, youre basically just talking about rebooting with the usb stick in and uefi enabled13:31
quackgyverrather than legacy, yeah?13:31
EriC^^quackgyver: yeah13:32
quackgyveraight13:32
EriC^^quackgyver: if you do get a boot options menu with 2 usb modes choose uefi13:32
quackgyverone moment13:32
quackgyveraight13:32
Mageia第一次来,这个怎么用呢13:33
pratikhttp://pastebin.com/FiTLwrCs13:35
pratikPlease check13:35
habashGuys I have only 4.7GB avalible on my machine, is it enough to install Ubuntu on VB?13:35
tomodachihabash: yes13:35
jattwhat is vb13:36
habashtomodachi, how much space does the fresh install usually take?13:36
habashjatt, virtualbox13:36
quackgyverEriC^^: Ok now it booted up GRUB booter13:36
EriC^^great and odd13:37
quackgyver"Try Ubuntu without installing" / "Install Ubuntu" / "OEM install" / "Check disc for defects"13:37
quackgyverFirst option yeah?13:37
EriC^^quackgyver: oh ok, i thought it found the installation :D13:37
EriC^^yeah13:37
quackgyverah no13:37
quackgyverbut13:37
quackgyverthats what happened the first time13:37
jattis a little tight if your home partition is in the same as the / partition13:37
quackgyveri put in the usb stick and suddenly it found the hdd os13:37
quackgyvero_o13:37
jatt10gb to be on the safe side13:37
quackgyveranyway ok13:37
minimechabash: According to the 'minimal requirements' page, the graphical installer will fail... (needs 5GB) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements13:37
lion123yo13:38
lion123how could i install ubuntu on my window713:38
lion12364 bits13:39
tomodachiminimec: habash well that wiki page does mention three differnt ram requirements, so it seems quite inconclusive. I successfully ran ubuntu 14.04 on 4 gigs13:39
jagatdownload iso file from www.ubuntu.com13:39
habashminimec, I don't care for the GUI, how can I install it without the GUI?13:40
habashtomodachi, 4 gigs or ram? or 4 gigs of hdd?13:40
jattinstall the ubuntu server iso13:40
lion123ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64 i have that13:40
lion123but i dont hve a usb13:40
tomodachihabash: ram13:40
EriC^^habash: minimal cd13:40
lion123pendrive13:40
jattnope  not that one, the server one13:40
EriC^^!minimalcd | habash13:40
ubottuhabash: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD13:40
habashthanks EriC^^13:41
minimechabash: It's all on that page...13:41
habashminimec, thanks man well do13:41
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lion123i can i install that without connecting internet13:42
lion123my internet is slow13:42
EriC^^quackgyver: did it load?13:42
lion123its showing 2 hours13:43
makarahi. Common problem I'm sure, what should I do with "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory"?13:49
EriC^^makara: what are you trying to compile?13:49
makaraim following http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=22413:49
EriC^^!find makemkv13:49
ubottuPackage/file makemkv does not exist in utopic13:50
quackgyverEriC^^: hey sorry my boss called13:50
quackgyverjust one minute, terribly sorry13:50
EriC^^quackgyver: no worries13:50
makaraEriC^^: ok. I'm sorted. I dont know what I thought13:52
quackgyverEriC^^: Ok I'm in :)13:52
quackgyverLoaded faster this time too13:52
EriC^^quackgyver: ok, cool13:54
EriC^^quackgyver: type sudo parted -l and paste in paste.ubuntu.com again13:54
EriC^^quackgyver: is it a 64bit machine?13:54
quackgyverEriC^^: yep13:54
EriC^^ok13:55
quackgyverpasting13:55
quackgyverEriC^^: http://pastebin.com/f3i8pmc113:56
EriC^^quackgyver: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt13:57
EriC^^quackgyver: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi13:57
EriC^^for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done13:57
EriC^^type those 3 commands ^^13:58
Esordo you like ubuntu-gnome?13:59
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i0d9i20so how well does Ubuntu perform on a Windows Surface tablet?14:01
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the-solipsistHello. I have a WD My Cloud NAS attached over ethernet to an OpenWrt router. I've enabled NFS on the NAS. I'm not sure what my firewall settings on the OpenWrt router should be.14:02
the-solipsistAll the settings I see on http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/nfs.server assume that the router itself will be the NFS server.14:02
the-solipsistIs there anyone here who speaks iptables? :)14:02
TzunamiiI think it's much easier if you describe what you want done14:04
the-solipsistTzunamii: I want to be able to connect from my laptop to the NAS using NFS.14:05
TzunamiiYou just want to punch some holes, is that it?14:05
the-solipsistYes. I want to know the correct netfilter/iptables settings.14:06
O_OniGiriHi there, can I ask cronjob related questions in this channel?14:06
EriC^^O_OniGiri: yeah14:06
EriC^^go for it..14:06
O_OniGiriEriC^^: Ok... I am trying to get cronjob working with notify-send, I read on google many people asking this, but no solution worked for me :(14:07
EriC^^what are you adding?14:07
quackgyverok EriC^^14:07
O_OniGiriEriC^^: What do you mean?14:07
quackgyvertyped in those 3 commands14:07
EriC^^try DISPLAY=:0 notify-send <something>14:07
quackgyvertook a while cus the keyboard layout wasnt in my native language14:07
quackgyverwhat do i do now?14:07
EriC^^O_OniGiri: in crontab -e , what's the command you're using?14:07
O_OniGiriEriC^^: Already tried that one14:08
EriC^^O_OniGiri: one second trying something14:08
O_OniGiri* * * * * DISPLAY=:0 notify-send "Hello world!"14:09
O_OniGiriEriC^^: Btw, I am using xubuntu14:09
EriC^^O_OniGiri: it works14:09
O_OniGiriEriC^^: for me it doesnt :(14:09
jattput it in a shell script14:09
EriC^^O_OniGiri: is the cron running? type tailf /var/log/syslog14:09
EriC^^see if it runs14:10
tgagreetings. I have a server that hangs on boot on random: nonblocking pool is initialized. any ideas?14:10
O_OniGirijatt: Also tried to put DISPLAY:=0 in script14:10
tgaI found a bunch of forum posts on this, but no answers14:10
O_OniGiriEriC^^: it runs, because I am echoing some test text to a file14:10
jattshould be DISPLAY=:0.014:10
EriC^^quackgyver: type sudo chroot /mnt14:10
O_OniGirijatt: I will try14:10
O_OniGirijatt: like this? #!/bin/bash  DISPLAY=:0.014:11
EriC^^O_OniGiri: try * * * * * DISPLAY=:0 xclock14:11
jattput the whole thing in the shell script (including the notify-send stuff)14:11
EriC^^there's no need for the script14:11
O_OniGiriEriC^^: what does xclock do?14:11
O_OniGiriEriC^^: it works :P14:12
O_OniGiriEriC^^: but it does not for notify :(14:12
EriC^^O_OniGiri: ok, try notify-send in a terminal14:12
O_OniGiriEriC^^: that works14:12
quackgyverEriC^^: done14:12
EriC^^hmm try DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal -e "notify-send 'hello ...'"14:13
EriC^^quackgyver: sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed14:13
EriC^^quackgyver: no need for sudo14:13
quackgyverall that sans the sudo?14:14
EriC^^quackgyver: oui :P14:14
quackgyveraight :314:14
quackgyveraight14:14
quackgyverits installing14:14
O_OniGirignome terminal is not installed14:14
EriC^^O_OniGiri: O.o14:15
EriC^^oh wait14:15
EriC^^which de are you using?14:15
O_OniGiriEriC^^: I do not know what terminal xubuntu uses14:15
EriC^^i think it's xfce-terminal or something14:15
cfhowlettEriC^^, exactly14:15
quackgyverEriC^^: its done, no error reported :314:16
EriC^^cfhowlett: thanks14:16
O_OniGiriEriC^^: yeah, xfce4-terminal14:16
EriC^^quackgyver: grub-install --recheck /dev/sda14:16
EriC^^quackgyver: update-grub14:16
EriC^^O_OniGiri: any luck?14:17
O_OniGiriEriC^^: waiting...14:18
O_OniGiriEriC^^: it starts up an empty terminal, but does nothing14:18
EriC^^try adding -x before -e14:18
quackgyverEriC^^: aight done. no errors reported14:18
EriC^^quackgyver: efibootmgr -v , paste it in paste.ubuntu.com14:19
O_OniGiriEriC^^: you mean this: * * * * * DISPLAY=:0 xfce4-terminal -x -e "notify-send 'test'" ?14:19
EriC^^yeah14:19
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EriC^^O_OniGiri: open a terminal and test it out14:19
EriC^^type xfce4-terminal -x -e .... see if opens another and notify works14:20
O_OniGiriEriC^^: not working with -x14:20
quackgyverEriC^^: http://pastebin.com/EmPmH4Jv14:21
EriC^^maybe -x instead of -e ?14:21
O_OniGiriEriC^^: not working14:22
EriC^^O_OniGiri: ok try xterm -e notify-send bla14:23
EriC^^the bla is very important14:23
EriC^^:P14:23
O_OniGiriEriC^^: sarcasm or not? :P14:23
O_OniGiriin terminal it works14:23
EriC^^j/k14:23
O_OniGirilets see if cron will do it14:23
EriC^^O_OniGiri: ok14:23
EriC^^quackgyver: type exit14:24
EriC^^quackgyver: try to restart14:24
O_OniGirineed DISPLAY=:0 ?14:24
EriC^^exit first14:24
EriC^^O_OniGiri: yes14:24
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O_OniGiriEriC^^: it's not working :(14:26
EriC^^O_OniGiri: hmm14:26
EriC^^do you have postfix installed by any chance?14:26
O_OniGiriEriC^^: what is postfix?14:26
`hypermist`lol i can't run NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-346.35.run14:27
`hypermist`cause i have an x server running and then when i fix that issue14:27
`hypermist`i get a Nouveau error14:27
`hypermist`Lol14:27
EriC^^O_OniGiri: it's for mail, cron sends the output of the commands to your mail14:27
k1l`hypermist`: why do you want to install the website driver and not use the ubuntu nvidia driver?14:27
`hypermist`cause its dun goofing k1l14:28
k1l?14:28
O_OniGiriEriC^^: i dont think I have installed something like that14:28
`hypermist`Youtube videos are lagging14:28
`hypermist`They never lag14:28
`hypermist`Lol14:28
`hypermist`This gpu im using is perfect. lel14:28
`hypermist`thats why k1l14:28
EriC^^O_OniGiri: ok, try DISPLAY=:0 notify-send "hello.." > ~/cronlog 2>&114:29
k1l`hypermist`: what driver did you use?14:29
EriC^^after it runs check what's in ~/cronlog14:29
`hypermist`i just did apt-get install nvidia-current k1l14:29
Sry-Im-new-here#roguelike14:29
k1lplease show "dpgk -l | grep nvidia" in a pastebin service please14:30
O_OniGiriEriC^^: will do14:30
Sry-Im-new-here^c14:30
O_OniGiriEriC^^: itś empty14:30
quackgyverEriC^^: with the stick in?14:30
EriC^^O_OniGiri: type tail /var/log/syslog14:30
quackgyveror running from hdd14:30
EriC^^O_OniGiri: is there anything about the cronjob?14:30
EriC^^quackgyver: restart and boot from the hdd14:31
quackgyverEriC^^: will do14:31
O_OniGiriEriC^^: CMD (DISPLAY=:0 notify-send "hello.." > ~/cronlog 2>&1)14:31
`hypermist`It says No command 'dpgk' found, did you mean:14:31
`hypermist` Command 'dpkg' from package 'dpkg' (main)14:31
`hypermist`dpgk: command not found14:31
`hypermist` k1l14:31
EriC^^O_OniGiri: if you type mail, do you get anything?14:32
`hypermist`but it is installed k1l14:32
k1lplease show "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" in a pastebin service please (sorry had a typo)14:32
the-solipsisthydrajump: "dpkg", not "dpgk"14:32
O_OniGiriEriC^^: I get a message saying: No mail for ...14:32
k1l!paste | `hypermist`14:32
ubottu`hypermist`: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:32
`hypermist`im tired14:32
`hypermist`lol14:32
ParityQuestion: Doesn't "./scriptname" do the same as "sh scriptname.sh" in ubuntu?14:33
the-solipsistGah, that was meant for `hypermist`, not hydrajump.14:33
`hypermist`k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9882680/14:33
`hypermist`the-solipsist, i knew it was pointed at me14:33
`hypermist`Haha14:33
`hypermist`Im so tried. that things be like durp durpity14:33
jattParity: no, the latter starts a new shell to read scriptname.sh14:34
k1l`hypermist`: ubuntu offers a 331 driver. which is newer than the nvidia-current you just have14:34
jattParity: the latter also work even if scriptname.sh doesn't have execute permissions14:34
EriC^^Parity: with ./ it will look in the cwd, with sh you can run it by typing its name14:34
`hypermist`k1l, what is the command then ?14:34
EriC^^( even if it isn't +x )14:34
k1l`hypermist`: do a "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current" and then do a "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331"14:35
`hypermist`okay14:35
quackgyverEriC^^: holy shit14:36
quackgyverit worked14:36
quackgyverwhat did you do o_o14:36
EriC^^quackgyver: great14:36
quackgyverman14:36
quackgyverwhat did you even do14:36
quackgyvero_o14:36
Parity@ EriC thanks!14:38
EriC^^quackgyver: reinstalled grub14:38
quackgyverEriC^^: when i boot it up it says system program problem detected14:38
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`hypermist`k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9882731/ wehn installing14:38
quackgyvercan i repair ubuntu somehow?14:38
`hypermist`it doesn't stop either k1l its goes on for some time then stops14:38
EriC^^quackgyver: the apport errors?14:38
quackgyveryes!14:38
quackgyverhowd you know14:38
EriC^^quackgyver: you mean while it's booting the kernel? or in the gui?14:39
quackgyverwhen ive logged into my desktop14:39
k1l`hypermist`: did you fiddle there manually with the drivers?14:39
quackgyverit says ubuntus been experiencing internal errors14:39
quackgyverwith apportcheckresume14:39
EriC^^quackgyver: you can check the details, yeah they happen to everyone14:39
`hypermist`k1l, nope. i don't think so let me check14:39
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EriC^^quackgyver: you can check the details if you want, and then disable them14:39
quackgyverEriC^^: it happens every time i log in14:39
quackgyverdo you know what thats about?14:39
EriC^^quackgyver: type gksu xdiagnose14:39
quackgyveri gotta install it14:40
quackgyverhold on14:40
EriC^^quackgyver: those are for the unreleased versions to report errors14:40
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Tamilanhi....everybody....14:42
quackgyverEriC^^: what does that mean?14:42
EriC^^quackgyver: you can type pkexec xdiagnose if you want, or just open the dash and type xdiagnose14:43
EriC^^quackgyver: gksu is for running gui apps with privileges14:43
`hypermist`yep i did edit it k1l  so i deleted it and now its running on those drivers i think14:43
quackgyverEriC^^: aight i got it open14:45
EriC^^quackgyver: ok uncheck automatic error reporting14:46
fxmulderis there a way to install ubuntu so that I can make a snapshot to easily rollback to if I blow something up?14:46
EriC^^fxmulder: lvm can do that i think14:46
jattinstall it in a vm14:46
fxmulderjatt: I can't use a vm because I am doing some hardware specific stuff14:47
jattvb has snapshots14:47
jattbtrfs has snapshots and rollbacks14:47
MarcGuayHi folks.  Ubuntu 14.04.  Any way to get the skype chat notifications to be more apparent?  If I'm AFK I don't see them at all.14:47
jattbut afaik btrfs is slow and buggy as hell14:47
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`hypermist`k1l,  its not the open gl issue14:47
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`hypermist`when i try boot a game with open gl it doesn't boot14:48
k1l`hypermist`: ?14:48
k1ldid you reboot after changing the nvidia driver now?14:48
`hypermist`nope14:48
`hypermist`i will do now14:48
quackgyverEriC^^: shouldnt i be concerned with the error report though?14:48
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fxmulderalright using lvm14:50
EriC^^quackgyver: it's up to you, i've disabled it and others too14:51
quackgyverEriC^^: Well, what did this specific error mean?14:51
EriC^^quackgyver: you have to check the details14:52
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quackgyverEriC^^: well14:52
quackgyverwhy is it a good idea to disable it if something is wrong?14:52
quackgyverisnt it better to fix the problem?14:52
EriC^^quackgyver: it's not that serious of an error i guess14:53
quackgyverHow so? :o14:54
hyperderpHey k1l its me hypermist14:54
hyperderpAfter i rebooted i dont get any desktop icons14:55
hyperderpAnd my pc is actinh loke its doing nothing14:55
EriC^^quackgyver: they're probably just warnings or other stuff that's really more helpful to the devs than anything else14:55
hyperderpIm using irc on my phone at14:55
EriC^^quackgyver: so in the prereleases it's there, but it's disabled by default ( or is supposed to be ) in the official releases14:56
k1lhyperderp: what video hardware is it?14:56
hyperderpWhat do i do k1l14:56
k1lhyperderp: "ctrl +alt +t" for a terminal. then "lspci" and see what video hardware it is14:57
hyperderpI cant its frozen but mouse is moveable14:58
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quackgyverEriC^^: oh ok14:59
quackgyverwell14:59
quackgyverim not entirely sure what htat means14:59
quackgyverbut ive got a working computer again now thanks to you14:59
quackgyverso ill trust you14:59
quackgyverthanks a lot for helping me. couldnt have done it without you14:59
k1lhyperderp: there might be a problem with your manual changes and the website driver you tried to install.14:59
EriC^^quackgyver: no problem14:59
k1lhyperderp: "ctrl +alt+f1" to get to tty, then login there and run "lspci"15:00
hyperderpAlright i did a different way but it says vga compatible gts 450 k1l15:00
quackgyver:)15:00
k1lhyperderp: "it doesnt work" is not a good error description for support over telephone or irc.15:00
EriC^^quackgyver: :)15:00
hyperderpPci bridge says amd ati k1l15:00
zambahow do i resize a vg?15:02
zambavgextend looks to be just for extending a vg over several different physical volumes15:03
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hyperderpK1l?15:03
k1lhyperderp: what ubuntu version?15:03
hyperderp14.0415:03
fxmulderdoes the x64 version run on 32 bit machines?15:04
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hyperderpFxmulder think only if cpu can do x6415:05
tewardfxmulder: x64 is for 64-bit architecture - you need the x86 version for 32bit architecture and CPus15:05
fxmulderhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop makes it sound like the determining factor is the amount of ram15:05
tewardfxmulder: it's the CPU architecture15:06
tewardfxmulder: you need the 32-bit version (i386 / i686) for 32-bit CPUs15:06
fxmulderI would imagine so but their wording sure makes that distinction confusing15:06
k1lhyperderp: what does "sudo lshw -c display" say about driver?15:06
hyperderpDisplay unclaimed k1l15:07
k1lhyperderp: hmm, ok try "sudo apt-get purge nividia*" then reboot and see if it comes up with a open source novoue driver . then you should have a gui and its easier to start from there15:09
hyperderpLol when i did that k1l it said my gpu clock was 33mhz lol15:09
hyperderpThe lshw cmd15:10
fxmulderthis laptop I got back in 08 still runs fine aside from the fact that it is 32 bit, wish I had gone 64 bit back then15:11
k1lfxmulder: you need to install the 32bit ubuntu if your hardware can only run 32bit.15:12
fxmulderk1l: my last statement was a statement of remorse as opposed to a statement of confusion as to which version to install15:12
k1lhydrajump: say when its done rebooting.15:13
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`hypermist`k1l,15:15
`hypermist`i did dpkg --configure -a and now i rebooted and im the drivers15:15
`hypermist`and youtube isnt lagging now15:15
k1lall good then?15:16
I-am-GrootHello15:16
`hypermist`k1l, i will go see by testing a game15:16
unloadingyou should be saying iamgroot15:16
fxmulderubuntu also seems to have problems figuring out my timezone, when I was in mountain time it always defaulted to central on install, now that I am in central it defaults to eastern15:16
I-am-GrootFor the past days, it looks like my Dell Latitude E6420 running Ubuntu 14.04 Keeps loosing data after reboot15:17
cfhowlettI-am-Groot, "looks like ..."?15:17
k1lI-am-Groot: so that laptoo is old now and starts to forget everything? :)   can you explain what you mean?15:18
I-am-Grootcfhowlett: Settings keep getting lost, brightness of the screen keeps reseting to the highest levels15:18
unloadingh15:18
BluesKajfxmulder, there wouldn't be much difference in performance between 32 and 64 bit  on a cpu from '08 , I had a laptop and and desktop from that era and the 32 bit laprop ran as well as the 64bit desktop with ubuntu15:18
I-am-GrootAlso, WiFi access points keeps getting deleted15:19
k1lI-am-Groot: see "dmesg" if there is some hardware failure15:19
fxmulderBluesKaj: some of the PCL stuff I want to use recommends 64 bit, they also recommend a much larger GPU than what I have so I may end up getting a new laptop at some point anyway15:19
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I-am-GrootOkay15:19
rtdosHow can I prevent certain users from hearing sound and other users from not hearing sound?15:19
I-am-GrootWhat command should i enter?? k1l15:19
fxmulderI've been using this laptop with various versions of ubuntu for a while now and its always run fine for general purpose stuff though15:19
k1lI-am-Groot: "dmesg" is the command15:20
I-am-GrootOkay15:20
I-am-GrootOn it15:20
rtdosHow can I prevent certain users from hearing sound and other users from not hearing sound? What I want to do is allow only those in the audio group to hear sound and those not in the audio group to hear silence.15:20
EriC^^rtdos: cotton15:20
cfhowlett!patience | rtdos,15:20
ubotturtdos,: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/15:20
BluesKajfxmulder, yeah, that what I did, bought a new laptop last yr and the desktop is still running ok with quite bit of new HW added over the yrs15:21
jnhghyI have a ssd that was formated GPT that I used in a server and now it seems it crashed, I'd like to test it on an ubuntu 14.04 machine, are there any chances for my os to see that disk? and if still operable to see the data on it?15:26
cfhowlettjnhghy, chances?  sure.15:26
jnhghycfhowlett: good to know, I saw that not all os's support gpt and I didn't know on which side is ubuntu15:27
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cfhowlettjnhghy, seeing likely won't be an issue.  doing something with may require actual thought.  be patient, ask questions, take your time.15:28
rtdossorry didn't mean to type it twice. EriC^^ cotton?15:29
rtdosat school we have certain groups of kids that use the computer and listen to CD's and MP3's (learning materials for the blind) but we don't want all kids whom use this computer to have access to this feature.15:32
levi_Hi, I am running Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and curl 7.35.0. According to: http://curl.haxx.se/docs/vuln-7.35.0.html , there are vulnerabilities. Should I download a file from http://curl.haxx.se/download.html and compile/install the latest version of curl 7.40.0?15:33
jhutchins_wklevi_: Because the Ubuntu team applies security patches to existing releases of software, you should track the security vulnerabilities of the Ubuntu package rather than the "15:35
jhutchins_wkupstream" release.15:35
jhutchins_wklevi_: For any significant vulnerability, there should be a timely security update of the official package.15:35
rtdoswe don't mind them listening to their music devices while using the computer we just don't want them using the computers resources to do it.15:36
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levi_jhutchins_wk: so I should be fine or what should I do?15:37
jhutchins_wklevi_: Track the Debian security announcements and update as appropriate.15:40
cfhowlettrtdos, I think you had the right idea: group memberships.  disable audio for students15:40
k1llevi_: see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/ and the tracker there. if its no know file a bug on launchpad.net15:42
somsiprtdos: not sure on this, but if you removed audio group access from students, then created a new group of 'users-audio' (maybe) that had access to users and audio groups, would that be a starting point?15:42
somsips/students/users15:42
k1llevi_: like the first cve mentioned on your side: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2014/CVE-2014-8151.html  ubuntu is not even affected by them15:43
ubottuThe darwinssl_connect_step1 function in lib/vtls/curl_darwinssl.c in libcurl 7.31.0 through 7.39.0, when using the DarwinSSL (aka SecureTransport) back-end for TLS, does not check if a cached TLS session validated the certificate when reusing the session, which allows man-in-the-middle attackers to spoof servers via a crafted certificate. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2014-8151)15:43
pratikHi I got an ISSUE15:45
levi_k1l: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2014/CVE-2014-8150.html what about that one?15:46
ubottuCRLF injection vulnerability in libcurl 6.0 through 7.x before 7.40.0, when using an HTTP proxy, allows remote attackers to inject arbitrary HTTP headers and conduct HTTP response splitting attacks via CRLF sequences in a URL. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2014-8150)15:46
k1llevi_: "released"15:46
levi_k1l: libcurl/7.35.0 is installed, so I'm okay? neat15:46
k1llevi_: so if you have the original ubuntu version installed and run the regular updates your system is fixed15:46
levi_Thanks k11!15:46
levi_Have a good day15:46
k1llevi_: manual instaled?15:47
levi_nope15:47
levi_wait15:47
levi_manually installed? no15:47
levi_i used apt-get to install everything15:47
k1lapt-cache policy curl15:47
delinquentmeok so im trying to recover a drive15:47
pratikHi anyone here to solve my issue ?15:47
somsip!details15:47
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)15:47
somsippratik: ^^^ give more details15:47
k1lok, if its from the official ubuntu repos itsfixed. if you did use a PPA or .deb or compiled it by yourself we cant update that.15:47
delinquentmeError reading block 60325888 (Invalid argument).  Ignore error<y>?15:48
tgaI have a server that's either very slow or just not coming up, freezes a long time on random15:48
tgato bring up a server in single user you just add 'single' to the kernel opts, right?15:48
delinquentme^ im  not sure what this is about ... but after hitting yes ... then a few nos ... it tells me that the drive still has errors15:48
levi_quit15:48
levi_hehehe15:48
pratikMy VLC player gives issue while playing video, when i go forward like 10.50 mins It stops sound !15:48
tgathis is right after an upgrade btw15:49
pratikPlease help me or i will have to switch to Win 7 bcoz of this issue15:49
ZiberHow can I redirect to a file and then later, in the same script, redirect to stdout?15:50
jattpratik: do you have the same issue without pulseaudio?15:50
BluesKajpratik, fine install W7, your statement isn't going to make much difference in support here ...is your sound not returning after FF and then resuming play?15:51
pratikYour correct sir , after FF , sound stops15:52
pratik@jatt lemme install that software15:52
BluesKajdid you try to pause then restart, pratik15:52
jattpratik: no, probably you already are using it, it could be pulseaudio is the issue in that case you can disable15:53
jattit15:53
pratikI tried everything including what u said , nothing works15:53
jattpratik: can you try:15:54
jattsudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop15:54
jattand check whether you still have the same issue?15:54
pratikHow to disable pulseaudio ?15:54
jhutchins_wkpratik: By all means, Windows 7 sounds like a good idea for you.15:54
BluesKajpratik, tried everything that who said?15:54
pratik"did you try to pause then restart, pratik "=> This i used told by BluesKaj15:55
tomshredsHi folks: I saw this running on my instance: /bin/sh -c if [ -x /usr/sbin/sendmail ]; then \ ?/usr/sbin/sendmail -bi || true; \ ?if [ -f /etc/mail/aliases.db ]; then \ ??chown smmta:smmsp /etc/mail/aliases.db; \ ??chmod 0644 /etc/mail/aliases.db; \ ??fi; \ ?fi;15:55
tomshredsIs it normal / safe? I mean I found it weird, my sendmail took huge amounts of memory so I might have been compromised15:55
rtdoscfhowlett: tried taking certain users out of the audio group but they can still hear audio; polkit perhaps? but how?15:56
tgaio error on upgrade, now no way to get this machine to boot15:56
tgafun stuff15:56
rtdossomsip: but how would i enable to sound card for users-audio or this other group?15:56
cfhowlettrtdos, outside my range, sorry to say.  keep asking in channel.  it's can't be that unique a request.15:57
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rtdoscfhowlett: yep.15:59
somsiprtdos: they would have access to audio group15:59
pratikI would like to say -> "I LOVE UBUNTU" :) Lots of blessings to Software developers from ME!!!!!!16:03
I-am-Grootk1l: I have finnally been able to place it on pastebin16:03
I-am-GrootHere is the link16:03
I-am-Groothttp://pastebin.com/mvzv8PNA16:03
I-am-GrootAll this loss of data after reboot has got an impact on my internet speed16:05
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notmorpheusWhat is the standard home folder path for --system users? I saw a tutorial specifying --home under /opt -- is this a common convention? Normally I just have every home path under /home/systemusername16:09
notmorpheusActually I think I see why he did this. Because that's where he installed a program, and he just used the program dir as the home dir as well.16:10
notmorpheusHuh.16:10
jhutchins_wkI-am-Groot: If you think you're loosing data you should check the disk, install smartmontools and enable it and watch the logs for filesystem errors.  If you are loosing data it's time to replace the hard drive NOW.16:18
I-am-Grootjhutchins_wk: thanks16:18
tzauHai16:20
jhutchins_wknotmorpheus: The most common convention is for a system account to have no home directory.16:20
I-am-Grootjhutchins_wk: Yesterday, i kept getting error messages similar to this.16:24
I-am-GrootMar 20 22:18:28 kernel: [24769.036550] ata1: hard resetting link16:24
I-am-GrootMar 20 22:18:28 kernel: [24769.357048] ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)16:24
I-am-GrootMar 20 22:18:28 kernel: [24769.358185] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/6616:24
I-am-GrootMar 20 22:18:28 kernel: [24769.358205] ata1: EH complete16:24
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I-am-GrootI did some research and they said it was kernel related16:25
edu_hola16:27
danofsatxgood day, folks. Is this the best channel to investigate an issue with libvirt on 14.04, or there anothe channel with more targeted support?16:28
edu_hola soy Edu_16:28
themiddleman-hola edu_ , /join #ubuntu-es16:29
LinuxGoldhow do I get apt-get --get-selections to show EXACT qt that I am using -- it simply said qt516:31
LinuxGoldneed to know if  it is 5.3 or 5.4 because QQuickWidget is in older than 5.316:32
LinuxGoldNEWER I mean.16:32
LinuxGoldsorry16:32
RansomTimeHi. I can't see an edit button on https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/git.html is there one?16:32
k1lLinuxGold: apt-cache policy PACKAGE16:32
CrtxReavrWhat would make getty processes go apeshit?16:33
LinuxGoldthanks!16:34
teoiWhats the chmod permission to copy a file?16:34
CrtxReavrteoi, um. .. write has a value of 4?16:34
CrtxReavrer - whoops16:35
CrtxReavrwrite has a value of 216:35
CrtxReavrRead is 416:35
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LinuxmanLinuxman is here!!16:38
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notmorpheusAll hail Linuxman. For he is a kind and just king.16:40
Linuxman:D16:40
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* BluesKaj reserves judgment :)16:42
whyubuntuHelp! unable to upgrade to 14.04 LTS16:44
sfrankenwhyubuntu: Desktop or server? And what have you tried so far?16:45
pbxwhyubuntu, give details.16:45
whyubunturan update and dist-upgrade it did do sm updates 1 time but doesn't update to 14.0416:45
pbxe.g. what version you're upgrading from16:45
BluesKaj!details |whyubuntu16:45
ubottuwhyubuntu: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)16:45
whyubuntu12.0416:45
sfrankenwhyubuntu: dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade from release to release16:46
sfrankenwhyubuntu: use "do-release-upgrade" for that16:46
whyubuntutried this 2nd time... 1st time it hung up with grey screen via update manager.. came here for advice did a system restore.16:46
cfhowlettwhyubuntu, torrent 14.04.1   and clean insatll16:46
cfhowlett*install*16:46
whyubuntuI have some dell recovery crap installed16:47
whyubuntugives errors for fresh clean install :\16:47
sfrankenwhyubuntu: Format your drive and the dell recovery crap is gone. But you can use "do-release-upgrade" if you want to upgrade16:47
sfrankenwhyubuntu: apt-get dist-upgrade actually updates all packages in a distro that are *critical* and can't/won't be upgraded with a normal "apt-get upgrade"16:48
BluesKajwhyubuntu, make sure you update and upgrade all  packages on 12.04 before upgrading the OS16:48
whyubuntu"do-release-upgrade" checing for new relase16:49
whyubuntuno new realease found :\16:49
whyubuntutried with -d16:49
whyubuntualso16:49
k1lwhyubuntu: "sudo do-release-upgrade" is for ubuntu release upgrade. do that. if errors show up please pastebin them and show them in a pastebin16:49
whyubuntu"do-release-upgrade" checing for new relase16:49
whyubuntu10:19:08 PM16:49
whyubuntuno new realease found :\16:49
GatoLokowhyubuntu: do not write in all caps, it is against the rules. Next time you will be expelled.16:49
k1lwhyubuntu: where does your release prompt link to and what ubuntu are you on?16:49
whyubuntukk sorry16:49
k1lwhyubuntu: "lsb_release -d" and "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades"16:50
sfrankenwhyubuntu: Are you on an older version of 12.04? If my memory is correct the upgrade path became available from 12.04.3 and up16:50
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whyubuntusys info shows 12.04 LTS16:50
whyubuntuafter I did last dist-upgrade it showed 12.04.5 somewhere16:51
k1lwhyubuntu: stop16:51
sfranken12.04.5? Wow..16:51
k1lwhyubuntu: please show in a pastebin what i asked you to. no guessing, not "i think" just plain facts16:51
whyubuntuuname doesn't show lts version :\16:51
k1l<k1l> whyubuntu: "lsb_release -d" and "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades"16:52
sfrankenwhyubuntu: what kil said16:52
k1lwhyubuntu: i loose motivation to help if you dont read what i write at all.16:52
whyubuntu"lsb_release -d" shows 12.04.5 LTS!!16:52
whyubuntucat "promt=never"16:53
whyubuntuhmmm16:53
chris00000i'm trying to determine the list of supported bluetooth profiles on a given distribution / version with a particular bluetooth dongle. it looks like sdptool provides that list, but its unclear. it says "Services:" rather than "bluetooth profiles", but from the list they appear to be clearly bluetooth profiles. i checked it against the doc/supported-features.txt in the bluez package from bluez.org, but there are profiles that the sdptool tool lists whic16:53
chris00000h are not listed in this file and this file supposedly lists all of the profiles supported in the latest version. is anybody able to bring some clarity to this?16:53
whyubuntushlould I change promt to lts?16:53
sfrankenwhyubuntu: change "prompt=never" to "prompt=lts" and you'll be sorted16:53
k1lwhyubuntu: ok, that is the issue change the propmt to lts16:54
notmorpheusjhutchins_wk: how to adduser with no home dir? (for system users)16:54
n88g'mornin' ubuntus... I have a fresh install of 14.04.1 that I got up last night and I have a Netgear WNDA3100v2 that wasn't supported out of the box.  I was able to get it up and (half) working with ndiswrapper but now I can only connect to the guest network but WPA authentication seems to be failing over and over... dmesg reports a generic error of not being able to connect and /var/log/syslog says something about a mismatching pre-auth handshake16:55
sfrankenn88: You sure you need ndiswrapper? Most Netgear stuff is supported out of the box nowadays16:57
jhutchins_wkndiswrapper is so 2004.16:58
sparrWhen a drive fails to mount at boot time, I get a prompt asking if I want to '[S]kip' or '[M]anual recovery'. If I press "M" then the boot process hangs a few steps later. Shouldn't I get something like a single user prompt there to do the mount?16:58
jhutchins_wkn88: What's the chipset?  lspci -nn, what's the ID?16:58
notmorpheusjhutchins_wk: never mind. figured it out. seemed like something that wouldn't be allowed, but I guess it is16:59
chris00000sfranken: you can't really say that most netgear stuff is supported out of the box... it highly depends on what chipset is being used and... it won't work if its a newer chipset as the distribution won't have the latest version. it takes time to make it into the mainline kernel, etc16:59
n88sfranken: it seems to be16:59
n88jhutchins_wk: one sec16:59
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whyubuntupromt set to lts but still show's no realease found :\17:00
whyubuntushld I do a restart or smth for it to take effect?17:00
sfrankenwhyubuntu: You could always try17:00
sfrankenwhyubuntu: Tried a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade already?17:00
whyubuntudoing17:00
whyubuntuyea17:00
chris00000sfranken: one thing I've learned over the years is you can't assume stuff off the shelf will work and anything that says "linux" on the box probably has poor to no actual support in linux17:00
sfrankenchris00000: Most stuff has an older chipset, only *brandspanking* new stuff has that issue yes17:01
chris00000sfranken: which is most of the hardware on the shelf... plus your not taking into account proprietary crap. there is still tons of it. 95% of the hardware on the market in fact.17:01
TheBigDealcan i remove files in /var/backups?17:02
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sfrankenchris0000: Depends on where you are in the world I guess. Over here I haven't encountered a piece of network hardware since 2004 that hasn't worked out of the box yet17:02
chris00000sfranken: there are certainly some companies that have done a great job, but i wouldn't put 100% faith in. hp is a good example. the printers they sell are mostly good. however there is a smaller list thats ideal as there aren't any proprietary bits.17:03
notmorpheusjhutchins_wk: if a user has no home dir, like a system user, and you sudo su to it, what happens wrt to things like .history -- that kind of stuff just isn't saved?17:03
chris00000sfranken: i don't care where you are... your experience is merely lacking perspective. i'm the primary person responsible for sourcing hardware and we run into problems constantly.17:04
sfrankenchris0000: Wow, that's harsh.17:04
chris00000sfranken: yes-it is. I don't mean to be a jerk. there are very few people who've purchased 95% of hp's printer catalog though.17:05
sfrankenchris00000: I worked for a medium size Linux company specializing in Ubuntu on servers and desktops, and we had a *lot* of hardware17:05
chris00000sfranken: i just happen to be one of those people who deals with this issue every day.17:05
sfrankenchris00000: So do I ;)17:05
yusufanyone know how to change MDM Lock Screen Wallpaper?17:05
chris00000sfranken: yes- but your talking about server hardware and thats a different ball game17:05
sfrankenWell, did actually. Company went bust after the CEO decided to leave17:05
sfrankenchris0000: No, read what I said17:06
sfrankenServers AND desktops17:06
sfrankenMy coworkers did the servers, I was repsonsible for desktops and laptops and everything related (scanners, printers, WiFi dongles you name it)17:06
chris00000sfranken: my company deals with hundreds of distributions and everything from little wifi cards and bluetooth adapters to printers, desktops, laptops, mini-boxes, routers, etc. you name it we've probably sourced it from multiple companies with multiple chipsets.17:06
n88jhutchins_wk: now the guest wifi seems to lock up after a few min... lspci -nn output here: http://pastebin.com/AQGNEvd617:07
chris00000sfranken: again- there is no way you've got a clue here.17:07
k1lchris00000: sfranken hey guys, can we not run into a "my $thing is bigger than yours" contest and keep it support focused in here?17:07
n88and here is lsusb: http://pastebin.com/iwGCvdQ117:08
sfrankenchris0000: Wow. Nice way to treat people. Sure, my field isn't as *massive* as yours but I know my stuff. Then again I've had the freedom to only select items that are known to work and supply those to our customers. Sure, sometimes something didn't work but that wasn't all too common in the later years.17:08
chris00000kil: sorry- it just gets me irritated when people act like they know what they are talking about and clearly don't. i actually interact with the developers and getting companies to release code on a daily basis. there are so many gpl violations and failures to cooperate its not even funny.17:08
chris00000sfranken: you're perspective is warped. it's easy to say everything works when your only sourcing hardware that probably works.17:09
chris00000sfranken: try getting the source code to fix bugs and the like for a phone for example. there are no wifi devices in any SoC that the complete set of source code is even available.17:10
chris00000sfranken: let me fix that... on a modern SoC with a modern wifi chip.17:10
sfrankenchris00000: Out of scope here. We were talking about WiFI cards/dongles ;)17:10
chris00000sfranken: i disagree. we were talking about hardware in general. not specific hardware.17:11
sfrankenchris00000: I don't know where you got that from. I was talking about network hardware/wifi cards and dongles..17:11
chris00000sfranken: there are still lots of problems with companies discontinuing proprietary drivers or programs and loosing support.17:11
chris00000sfranken: well, if your talking about wifi dongles I'd still argue there is no good 802.11ac chip. period.17:12
chris00000sfranken: they're all dependent on non-free software for which can't be properly supported in linux.17:12
jhutchins_wkchris00000: Could you please take it to another channel NOW?17:12
chris00000jhutchains_wk : no. i'm done.17:12
ailtonj #trivia17:17
* squinty notes "the forward slash is the most missed character when joining irc channels such as #trivia"17:18
oatshello17:19
cuppyHi, all. I have an odd situation. A blizzard is about to come through my town, and I may lose power. I (stupidly) do not have a backup solution of any kind, except Google Drive (which, okay, I suppose I could use). I am doing valuable work on this computer, and I want to make sure my changes to my .html and .js files are written to disc just in case the power runs out. I am using Sublime Text 2 on 12.04. When I save something, can I be assured that i17:19
cuppyt is written to disc and not lazily waiting in RAM?17:19
oatsI installed Ubuntu, replacing windows on my laptop, and now I need to change the partitioning, so am trying to boot Ubuntu from USB, as I did when I first installed it, but the bios isn't detecting my USB with ubuntu on it17:20
sfrankencuppy: Why would it be written into RAM??17:20
sfrankenoats: Try a different USB port, or a diferent USB key. This one may be fried17:20
sfrankenoats: What do you see when your machine is running and you plug it in?17:20
oatsIt pulls it up fine and shows all the files/ directories accessible17:21
cuppysfranken, for instance, when changes are made to a USB flash drive, the changes commonly aren't written to the drive until it is told to unmount.17:21
sfrankenoats: Ok, so the drive is still good :)17:21
oatssfranken: that's good I suppose haha17:21
sfrankencuppy: Yes, a USB flash key. But a HDD/SSD isn't a USB flash key17:22
oatsfor some reason it isn't showing up in my boot menu17:22
sfrankencuppy: Check with "ls" if the access time (atime) changes17:22
sfrankencuppy: That way you'll know for sure17:22
sfrankenoats: Shut down your machine completely, insert USB, boot, see what happens17:22
cuppysfranken, I thought atime is lazy.17:22
sfrankencuppy: depends on your mount options17:22
oatssfranken: did this multiple times, same thing17:22
mcphailcuppy: you could try mounting with the "sync" option but the whole file may corrupt if you lose power during a disk write17:22
squintycuppy:  surely your editor has a "save work after a certain period of time" option....?17:22
sfrankenoats: How do you boot from USB? Insert it and hope or insert it and press a key?17:23
n88for my netgear WNDA3100v2 issue i tried to follow this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221251 but when I `dmesg | grep ndis` it seems to be having an issue 'required key missing - taining kernel': http://pastebin.com/n7dM46n317:23
mcphailsquinty: that isn't what he means17:23
WhitorHi all. 14.04 here. random lockups.. I think it is my HD. Superblock to be precise... My Question is... is there a way to repair the superblock? or is this a physical issue that needs a new HD to fix?17:24
oatssfranken: Usually the usb is in, I pause start up and enter the boot menu, and it shows a list of devices, including the USB drive17:24
WhitorMemX86 tested fine17:24
oatsbut it's not showing up in the device list in the boot menu17:25
squintymcphail:  please talk to the original poster  thanks17:25
sfrankenoats: Try re-doing the usb key creation? That's the easiest thing I can think of17:25
WhitorComing out of sleep, I've gotten superblock errors... unable to write to.. followed by another lockup17:25
oatsoats: I reformatted and redownloaded the iso multiple times17:26
sfrankenoats: Is the drive bootable? You can check with fdisk -l <drive>17:27
cuppythx for the input all. I'll look into it.17:28
oatssfranken: 1 sec17:28
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wojtekhello everybody17:32
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n88still trying to trouble shoot this netgear WNDA3100v2 issue.. here is the output of /var/log/syslog which seems to be saying that it is failing the "WPA 4-way handshake"17:33
n88http://paste.ubuntu.com/9884837/17:33
n88I can connect to the guest network and it works but trying to authenticate to the actual network won't work17:34
oatssfranken: "last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 4070017:34
oats"17:34
sfrankenoast: Drive isn't fried but it isn't written correctly either. That's a partition/fstab problem. Easy solution would be to empty the drive and start again17:35
sfrankenoast: "$ parted -a optimal <drive>" starts parted, type "mklabel msdos" and "quit"17:36
sfrankenoast: That wipes the entire disk. *make sure to use the correct disk!*17:36
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oatssfranken: I entered the wrong thing.17:36
sfrankenoats: *ouch*17:37
oatsno I mean that gave me that error17:37
oatsits /dev/sdc117:37
sfrankenoats: phew17:37
oatsUnder boot is says *17:37
oatsdoes that mean bootable?17:37
sfrankenoast: Indeed it does17:37
oatsHPFS/NTFS/exFAT17:37
oatsit still isn't showing up in my boot devices17:38
sfrankenoats: Easiest thing is to remake the USB key17:38
sfrankenoats: Follow my steps above, that's how I always do it and it hasn't failed me yet17:38
sfrankenoats: Sometimes the Ubuntu application to create a USB key does for me, which is why I do it *oldschool*17:38
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oatssfranken: You mean to format and reinstall the ubuntu iso image?17:39
techsuperfreakn88:  Have you tried removing the passphrase and testing that way?17:39
sfrankenoats: Yup17:39
oatssfranken: I did this three times it never shows up in the boot17:39
n88techsuperfreak: ndiswrapper was pissing me off so i am in the process of purging it and going to take another stab17:40
sfrankenoats: Can you describe how you create the disk? Maybe somethines not right there17:40
n88lots of people seem to be having this issue with this netgear device17:40
techsuperfreakn88: keep us posted17:40
oats1) format 2) download iso 3) configure with unetbootin 4) plug usb into ubuntu laptop 5) turn on and go to boot menu 6) no usb in boot devices list17:41
oats(sfranken)17:41
sfrankenoast: unetbootin doesn't work all that well ;)17:41
oatssfranken: I also used start up disk creator17:43
sfrankenoats: Try dd, the good old-fashioned way17:44
sparrwhat do I need to do to add software raid drivers to my initramfs?17:44
oatssfranken: I don't think it is a problem with the usb and ubuntu image17:44
oatsI think it is some config in bios or uefi17:44
sfrankenoats: Just to be sure, if that's not it we can rule that out17:44
oatsbecause other computer is detecting it17:45
sfrankenoats: BIOS/(U)EFI configs don't change themselves17:45
sfrankenoats: ah17:45
oatsbefore, the computer I am trying to do this on had windows. I did the same exact thing and successfully installed ubuntu17:46
oats(last night, while windows was the OS, it showed ubuntu usb in boot options)17:46
sfrankenoats: Is it a BIOS of UEFI system? If it's a UEFI system did you remove the *safeboot* option first?17:46
oatssfranken: both, I disabled UEFI and set only Legacy boot17:46
sfrankenoats: Is your USB key formatted with a GPT table or a msdos table?17:47
oatsI'm not sure17:47
sfrankenoats: And sometimes legacy boots from UEFI's are bugged.. and won't work17:47
oatsso how do I disable safeboot option17:47
sfrankenoats: Usually from the UEFI itself,it depends on the UEFI itself17:48
sfrankenoats: Mine was under "Boot options" -> "Security"17:48
sfrankenoats: but that differs per vendor17:48
oatssfranken: I am in Security, Secure Boot, and it shows "Disabled"17:48
sfrankenoats: Disable legacy boot as well17:49
sfrankenoats: Then try again17:49
oatssfranken: It is either legacy boot, uefi, or both. Which?17:49
Arizonhello, i just used gparted to format my external harddrive to have its primary partition as ext4 and then i placed my ubuntu 14.04 iso inside it. however, i needed to sudo mv the iso into the external harddrive... i think this is what's causing the boot error when i try to start installing the ubuntu os to my external drive... please help!17:49
sfrankenoats: Try both to be safe17:49
oatsalso USB UEFI BIOS Support is "enabled"17:50
oatsUSB 3.0 Mode is "auto"17:50
sfrankenArizon: That won't work. You need to write the contents of the ISO to a disk, not the ISO itself17:50
sfrankenoast: Try with a USB 2 key perhaps?17:50
sfrankenoats: Some machines have trouble booting USB317:51
oatssfranken: UEFI/Legacy boot priority: Which one?17:51
Arizonsfranken, umm in linux what should i used for that?17:51
oatssfranken: this all worked last night before I installed ubuntu17:51
sfrankenoats: Shouldn't really matter that much17:51
sfrankenoast: I know, weird, right?17:51
oatsalso, what is CSM support17:51
Arizonusbwrite isn't picking up my external drive17:51
sfrankenArizon: dd, or Startup Disk creator17:51
sfrankenoats: CSM? No clue17:51
ash547Hi Hi17:51
sfrankenoats: Google tells me it's "Compatibilty Support Module"17:52
sfrankenArizon: From the command line "$ sudo dd if=<path to ubuntu ISO> of=<path to usb drive> bs=4M"17:53
EriC^^CSM means legacy support17:53
EriC^^it's found on UEFI firmware17:53
sfrankenArizon: make sure to *doublecheck* the paths, otherwise you might nuke your drive17:53
Arizonsfranken, that's it just the one command?17:53
EriC^^oats: what's your problem?17:54
sfrankenArizon: yup17:54
sfrankenEriC^^ His machine won't boot from USB anymore17:54
ash547I have wordpress site in ubuntu and i am trying to upload file /var/www/html/site1 with common user but all the file file owner will be this user only. how can i upload file with www-data ownership??17:54
Arizonsfranken, thanks i'll try it out, the distro i'm trying to write over is linux mint17:54
EriC^^oats: are you selecting usb uefi from the boot options?17:54
Arizonsfranken, the commands should be the same?17:54
lotuspsychje!mint | Arizon17:55
ubottuArizon: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org17:55
sfrankenArizon: Yes. Just change the paths to match17:55
Arizonkk17:55
mittArizon, I think you can deal without bs=4M17:55
sfrankenArizon: true, what mitt said. dd if=<path> of=<path> works too17:55
oatsEriC^^: Hey, I'm trying that revised partitioning that you and Mic recommended last night, and trying to boot again from USB. For some reason, now after (maybe coincidentally) Ubuntu is installed, the USB isn't showing up in the boot options.17:55
sfrankenold habits die hard17:55
EriC^^oats: i dont remember you having uefi/gpt17:56
oatsEriC^^: UEFI/Legacy Boot priority has Legacy First17:56
Arizonsfranken, btw what is bs = 4M?17:56
sfrankenArizon: BitSize17:56
Arizonah kk17:56
EriC^^you had 2 msdos partitions that's why i said to boot the other installation,17:56
EriC^^if you had uefi you'd have to deal with efi partitions and what not17:57
mittArizon, from man:  read and write up to BYTES bytes at a time17:57
EriC^^oats: is the bios set to legacy mode right now? does the ubuntu installation boot normally?17:57
oatsEriC^^: What do you mean msdos paritions?17:57
oatsAnd yes, priority is legacy, and ubuntu boots fine17:57
Arizonsfranken, dd failed to open 'media/nonroot/ubuntu_part' : is a directory17:58
DarthShaderHey guys. I'm curious whether running Kubuntu (full install) from a USB drive is a supported thing.17:58
sfrankenArizon: The path should be "/dev/<usbkey>"17:58
sfrankenArizon: Not the mounted folder17:58
EriC^^oats: try a different usb port17:58
Arizonah kk17:58
lotuspsychjeDarthShader: what you mean by supported?17:59
oatsEriC^^: Why do you say so? Ubuntu detects my device and it loads fine, so I don't think the port is fried.17:59
DarthShaderIt's just that my Kubuntu USB install no longer boots; I'm wondering whether it's the flash drive or just something I'm not "supposed to do".17:59
Arizonsfranken, /dev/sdb1 is it17:59
EriC^^oats: what do you mean it loads fine?17:59
sfrankenArizon: So, that'd be "$ sudo dd if=<path to Ubuntu ISO> of=/dev/sdb"17:59
lotuspsychjeDarthShader: can you give us more details of what you did exactly17:59
sfrankenArizon: make sure the entire drive is empty and you're cool with having no more data on there!18:00
oatsEriC^^: All the ubuntu unpacked iso files are in there18:00
oatsand it says its bootable18:00
lotuspsychjeDarthShader: you made a kubuntu usb stick portable?18:00
Arizonsfranken, thanks! if there's an iso already there will it just be overwritten?18:00
sfrankenArizon: The entire DISK will be overwritten18:00
mcphailDarthShader: there are difficulties, such as drives changing names (fixed by using UUID in fstab) and USB drives taking too long to come online during boot process (fixed by hacking init scripts or systemd equivalent)18:00
sfrankenArizon: Which is why I'm uring you to be cautious18:00
EriC^^oats: ok, try a different port18:01
el3Hi when I do a apt-update I get alot of output like this. W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/multiverse/binary-armhf/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80] and Err http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main armhf Packages   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80].... I dont think I am even on a armhf device. I am a bit noob onthis help18:01
Arizonsfranken, well it's an external that hold nothing important so i'm not too worried :P18:01
Olxd_Im a noob hacker ;(18:01
EriC^^oats: when you boot it just skips the usb?18:01
Arizonsfranken, i hit enter and now i'm just waiting now?18:01
DarthShader<lotuspsychje> disconnected all NTFS drives, loaded up OS from DVD, installed to USB, removed DVD. Install survived multiple reboots. Removed USB, connected my NTFS drives, booted into Windows. Removing NTFS drives and booting from the connected USB stick no longer works.18:01
sfrankenArizon: Yup18:01
Arizonsfranken, ahh i forget the command to have it show the progress bar, i knew at one point T_T18:02
oatsEriC^^: yep,18:02
Arizonsfranken, eta 20 min you think?18:02
lotuspsychjeDarthShader: see what mcphail said :p18:02
Olxd_what is this all about maybe i can help?18:02
sfrankenArizon: Depends on the speed of your harddrive18:02
Arizonsd18:02
oatsEriC^^: oo, I put it in another USB port and it appeared. Why did this happen? The other one works fine with the USB in ubuntu.18:02
Arizonssd18:02
EriC^^oats: ok, is the usb selected before the hdd in the boot order?18:02
sfrankenArizon: ~20 minutes18:02
lotuspsychjeOlxd_: this channel is for ubuntu supporting questions18:03
mittArizon: probably no more than 1018:03
oatsEriC^^: Yes18:03
EriC^^oats: i dont follow18:03
EriC^^oats: it worked in another port?18:03
oatsyes18:03
EriC^^ok18:03
oatsI clicked enter and now I get18:03
sfrankenArizon: the progress bar is PV, but that won't work with dd18:03
EriC^^so it booted?18:03
Olxd_ohhhh okay !18:03
oats"exF \n Remove disks or other media. \n Press any key to restart"18:03
lotuspsychjeoats: thats because of usb 2 en usb 3.018:03
Olxd_im new to ubuntu you see18:03
DarthShader<lotuspsychje>, <mcphail> My USB stick is plenty fast (it's ssd-on-a-stick, really, with super-high random 4k read-writes), so it can't be the speed. How do I do the UUID in fstab thing?18:03
oatslotuspsychje: What do you mean?18:04
lotuspsychje!uuid | DarthShader18:04
ubottuDarthShader: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)18:04
lotuspsychjeoats: meaning changing usb ports can do magic sometimes18:05
mcphailDarthShader: the speed of your disk doesn't matter: if the boot process tries to access the disk before it is brought up it will fail. As for UUID, have a look in /etc/fstab and see if there are lines containing UUID18:05
oatslotuspsychje: I installed ubuntu on this usb last night via that same usb port I don't get why it's not working no18:05
oatsw18:05
sfrankenoast: Computers can be weird ;)18:06
el3Can anyone help me with my question18:06
Roni787what is the best web admin panel for ubuntu server?18:06
EriC^^oats: it probably still works, just isn't booting18:06
DarthShaderoats: I have a similar problem, it seems.18:06
lotuspsychje!aptlock | el3 maybe this?18:06
ubottuel3 maybe this?: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »18:06
oatsEriC^^: "exF \n Remove disks or other media. \n Press any key to restart" now whenever I start18:06
oatsDarthShader: Damn computing18:06
el3lotuspsychje, okey ty I will try18:07
lotuspsychjeel3: did you try apt clean and apt-get update also?18:07
el3lotuspsychje,  no, should I try that first?ð18:07
lotuspsychjeel3: sure whatever does the trick18:07
EriC^^oats: do you have a boot options menu18:08
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oatsEriC^^: I can get one and the first option is my KINGSTON USB18:08
oatsotherwise due to the boot priority it automatically loads18:08
oatseither way I get "exF \n Remove disks or other media. \n Press any key to restart"18:08
EriC^^oats: ok, are there other ports you can try?18:09
EriC^^oats: i think the usb needs to be md5sum checked18:10
oatsEriC^^: Nope, just these two18:10
oatsWhat does that mean?18:10
DarthShaderoats, EriC^^: I get the same thing during boot from my USB, with same settings (sandisk usb as the top boot priority)18:10
el3lotuspsychje, did tryboth options, still armhf 404 messages18:10
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oatsAnd this worked last night18:10
oatsremember EriC^^, when you helped me install ubuntu last night18:10
lotuspsychjeel3: http://askubuntu.com/questions/298177/a-failed-to-fetch-error-occurs-when-apt-get-update-is-run-how-do-i-fix-this18:10
oatsand the usb work in that port same everything except windows 8 was the primary os18:10
jhutchins_wkoats: When you installed, did you run the installer or just write an iso image to it?18:11
oatsjhutchins: ran the installer18:11
oatsit is bootable18:11
oatsaccording to ubuntu18:11
jhutchins_wkoats: The drive is obviously working in that you're getting the shutdown message from the live image.18:11
lotuspsychjeoats: is this dualboot or singleboot ubuntu?18:11
oatssingleboot ubuntu18:11
oatsacutally18:11
oatsthere are two paritions18:11
EriC^^oats: check that all the files are still there18:11
lotuspsychjeoats: did you not forget to disable fastboot?18:11
oatseach of which have a copy of ubuntu18:11
oatsI don't know why18:12
oatshow do I disable fastboot? I think I did18:12
lotuspsychjecheck your bios18:12
jhutchins_wkoats: That has nothing to do with it.18:12
muaazcive recently update my ubuntu to 14.04 and since the update  my monitors display isnt working. the monitor picks up a source but nothing is diplayed18:12
jhutchins_wkoats: What you are seeing in the live image shutdown messsage, which is inconsistent with your having run the installer.18:12
oatsBoot mode is: Quick18:13
oatsother options is Diagnostic18:13
Olxd_Where can i learn all the pern/hacking skills for a newbie any books>?18:14
Arizonsfranken|away, i'm trying to boot to the external harddrive but it's not working, i set it as both boot from USB FDD and USB HDD18:14
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lotuspsychje!security | Olxd_18:15
ubottuOlxd_: Security Updates are dealt with here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server18:15
oatsI am redownloading ubuntu maybe the dl as corrupted18:15
lotuspsychjeOlxd_: the man pages of a specific package can be usefull to learn18:16
jhutchins_wkoats: The download site should have a file that has the checksums for the iso images, you can verify without downloading the image again.18:16
muaazcive recently update my ubuntu to 14.04 and since the update  my monitors display isnt working. the monitor picks up a source but nothing is diplayed18:16
oatsdownload'll be done soon anyway18:16
jhutchins_wkoats: Sounds like it's booting but going immediately to shutdown mode.18:16
oatsany idea why?18:17
lotuspsychjemuaazc: did you try grub recoverymode?18:17
jhutchins_wkoats: You should still check it.18:17
EriC^^oats: there's a file in the usb itself called md5sum18:17
EriC^^i think it has the md5sum of all files18:17
oatshow do I access the checksubs18:17
wpdI can't get my application running on a Ubuntu 14.04 system to generate a core file.  Can anybody help me figure out why?  /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern contains "core", "ulimit -a" shows "unlimited" for all the core file size & file size.  Where else should I look?18:17
smartasshi, could you please recommend a set of video tutrials that introduce components of a Linux desktop like X server, etc.18:17
oatssums18:17
lotuspsychje!md5 | oats18:17
ubottuoats: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows18:17
tomshredsHi, I mainly develop web apps and I'd require a neat solution to monitor them. I already have a server monitoring app but I cannot find the right tool to debug sql queries, error pages, etc. I found appneta which sounds the most like what I'm looking for. I already tried newrelic in the past but I am looking for something better. Any suggestions?18:17
EriC^^hold on ill try to piece something18:17
mcphailmuaazc: at what point int he boot process do you lose the picture on the monitor?18:17
lotuspsychjesmartass: whats your end goal to learn?18:18
jhutchins_wksmartass The Linux System Administrator's Guide is an excellent general resource: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html18:18
smartassjhutchins_wk: looking for video tutorials though18:18
jhutchins_wksmartass: Linux Acadamy - not free.18:18
oatsEriC^^: Is the correct checksum on the website anywhere18:19
bmcchristianubuntu 14.04 laptop battery died, system boots and gets to login screen, login fine but nothing loads. stuck in a suspended mode i think. Any ideas?18:19
muaazcmcphail: i dont even get a picture18:19
jhutchins_wkbmcchristian: Boot to single user/recovery mode and investigate.18:19
smartasslotuspsychje: giving resources to a friend so that she understands what `ssh -X ` does18:19
mcphailmuaazc: do you get the text of the bootloader?18:19
bmcchristiantried that, fsck give clean root volume report and then hangs forever18:20
el3Okey I tried editing my /etc/apt/source.list, generated a new sources.list here http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php and still errors about armhf. I dont even think I am on a armhf device18:20
muaazclotuspsychje: what is that? and how do u do it?...im new to linux18:20
EriC^^oats: just go to the usb, open a terminal in that dir and type md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -i failed18:20
EriC^^oats: if any files dont match they should show up18:20
lotuspsychje!recovery | muaazc18:21
ubottumuaazc: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode18:21
bmcchristianjhutchins_wk: tried that, fsck give clean root volume report and then hangs forever18:21
muaazcmcphail: not on my monitor18:21
Arizonwhenever i try to boot from usb it says corrupted iso / os but the checksums match18:21
EriC^^oats: the checksum on the site is for the iso as a whole18:21
bottazziniubottu: help18:22
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:22
bottazzini!patience18:22
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/18:22
oatsEriC^^: I downloaded a new ISO, I'm presently on my windows computer18:22
EriC^^Arizon: try to do an integrity check from the usb when it boots18:22
mcphailmuaazc: hold down the right shift key as the machine boots. Do you get the bootloader now?18:23
ArizonEriC^^, how do i do that?18:23
bmcchristianubuntu 14.04 laptop battery died, system boots and gets to login screen, login fine but nothing loads. stuck in a suspended mode i think. Booted to rescue mode, no real help fsck on root volume fine. Any ideas?18:23
EriC^^Arizon: hold shift to get a menu and you should get something like integrity check18:23
lotuspsychje!recovery | bmcchristian18:23
ubottubmcchristian: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode18:23
ArizonEriC^^, well the current harddrive with the distro boots normally it's just the USB that i'm trying to boot from that's not working18:24
bmcchristiani did that....18:24
lotuspsychjebmcchristian: did you try failsafeX and fix broken packages from the recoverymode?18:24
EriC^^Arizon: if you're in ubuntu right now and the usb is connected try to cd to the dir it's mounted under and type md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -i failed18:24
Arizonis there a way to just run the iso of a linux distro on the desktop like in windows?18:24
muaazcmcphail: im currently using my linux on my broken laptop lcd... tell me what tp do and ill boot it up qqagain18:24
EriC^^Arizon: yes, i know with the usb connected holding shift should get the grub menu for the usb or another menu18:24
bmcchristianlotuspsychje: have not tried either, from research it appears that ubuntu has this issue when a latop battery dies it gets stuck in the supsend mode it was in18:25
Arizonit displays only linux mint, linux mint recovery, and mem test, memtest diag18:25
jhutchins_wkArizon: You can mount it as a filesystem using loopback, but you can't boot it within a session.18:25
oatsEriC^^: "MD5 check sums are the same" checked the iso18:25
lotuspsychjebmcchristian: if recoverymode cant help you, reinstall fresh18:25
EriC^^oats: ok, did you try the md5sum -c .. ?18:25
oatsEriC^^: I'm on windows rn18:26
oatsdon't think I have that18:26
jhutchins_wkbmcchristian: Now if you understood what the boot process for a hibernated system was, you might be able to figure it out.18:26
ArizonEriC^^, there's linux mint 17 mate 32 bit, recovery, mem test, memtest serial console18:26
EriC^^oats: cause you said it worked before then stopped18:26
oatsbut now im installing this new ISO onto the usb with unetbootin18:26
ArizonI tried both USB FDD and USB HDD and nothing worked18:26
mcphailmuaazc: hold down the right shift key as it boots. If you get the GRUB bootloader coming up press "e" to edit the boot commands. Remove the words "quiet" and "splash" and press f10 to boot. Let me know how far it gets before you lose the picture18:26
jhutchins_wk!mint18:26
bmcchristianlotuspsychje: had this issue with ubuntu a few years ago. Fedora on the re-install then.....18:26
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org18:26
lotuspsychjeArizon: try to install ubuntu 14.04 that will work out fine18:27
Itskohi18:27
Arizonlotuspsychje, that's what i'm trying to do18:27
muaazcmcphail: ok , 5 minutes18:28
lotuspsychjeArizon: make an usb from another pc?18:28
EriC^^Arizon: can you try a different usb?18:28
Arizonok according to disk manager there is no file type within the usb, but the partition type is linux bootable18:28
oatsEriC^^18:29
jhutchins_wkArizon: Mint is not supported here.18:29
EriC^^oats: ?18:29
jhutchins_wkArizon: If you try a bootable ubuntu image we will be able to give you accurate help.18:29
Arizonthats what i just did18:29
Arizoni used dd to write it to the external drive and it worked out with no errors18:29
EriC^^what was the command?18:30
Arizonbut there's no file system on it according to disk manager18:30
jhutchins_wk!mac18:30
ubottuFor help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages18:30
oatsEriC^^: USB CD, USB FDD, USB HDD, ATA HDD1, PCI LAN REALTEK PXE BO4 D00, ATA HDD0 ST320LT006-9ZV142,ATA HDD2 SAMSUNG MZMPAN024HMCD-000L1, Windows boot manager is the boot order; is that right?18:30
Arizonsudo dd if=/home/nonroot/iso of=/dev/sdb118:30
EriC^^Arizon: drop the 118:30
master500hello please can you help me for python ? just 5 minute18:30
lotuspsychjemaster500: try the #python guys mate18:31
EriC^^oats: looks ok i guess18:31
oatsAnything wrong at all? What are all the different USB's you know?18:31
EriC^^usb cd usb fdd ( floppy i think )18:32
ArizonEriC^^,  ? why that's the path of the external drive18:32
firebird1hello18:32
firebird1 $ ls *[0-9.]*18:32
firebird1<firebird1>  this doesnt print following file B damnshit damnshit~ qw18:32
firebird1why it doesnt print B18:32
EriC^^Arizon: that's the first partition of the disk, you need to write it to /dev/sdb18:32
oatsEriC^^: USB HDD?18:32
EriC^^( sudo parted before issuing that command and make sure of the drive designation )18:33
EriC^^Arizon: ^^18:33
EriC^^it can change, use sudo parted -l18:33
jhutchins_wk!python18:33
ubottupython is a popular Object Oriented scripting language included in Ubuntu. For more on Python please see http://www.python.org/ or #python18:33
ArizonEriC^^, there's only one partition in the disk18:33
EriC^^oats: yeah that's the one you need to boot i think18:33
oatswhat did you want me to do with the md5 again, what command18:34
jhutchins_wkArizon: You need to write the image directly to the disk, not to the partition.18:34
EriC^^oats: cd to the dir, md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -i failed18:34
jhutchins_wkoats: md5sum <file.iso>, compare with sum posted @ download site.18:34
Arizonjhutchins_wk, ok so by writing the image directly to the disk it will by default choose the primary partition?18:35
Arizonjhutchins_wk, because i have a 27gig partition as primary and unallocated 50 gig that i'm going to have as ntfs later18:35
oatsEriC^^: how does it know which md5 to compare it to?18:36
jhutchins_wkArizon: Writing the image to the device replaces anything on it, including the partition table.18:36
EriC^^oats: md5sum.txt has a list of all the md5sums and the files18:36
Arizonjhutchins_wk, i did that previously and when i booted back up it was still there when i looked in gparted18:37
jhutchins_wkArizon: Then you didn't do it right.18:37
oatsook18:37
Arizoni did dd if=<iso location> of=/dev/sdb18:37
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oatsWhat does the md5sum command do,and the pipe with grep?18:38
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oatsok it ran and nothing outputted18:38
EriC^^oats: ok, the files are good18:38
oatsSo what now?18:39
oatsrestart18:39
EriC^^oats: try to dd the iso again18:39
EriC^^or use unetbootin18:39
oatsdd the iso18:39
oatswhat does that mena18:39
oatsmean18:39
oatsEriC^^: I did, this is a new one I just made18:39
EriC^^oh18:39
oatswith unetbootin18:39
EriC^^restart then18:40
oatsok restarted18:40
oats"exF Remove disks or other media. Press any key to restart."18:40
EriC^^do you have something else plugged in18:40
EriC^^a cd rom perhaps?18:40
EriC^^or fdd ? :P18:41
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oatsa charger18:41
oatsThe only other memory is the two whatevers inside my computer that the ubuntu's are installed on18:41
jhutchins_wkArizon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Install_and_run_Startup_Disk_Creator_alias_usb-creator18:42
EriC^^ok, i dont know why it's not booting it18:42
jhutchins_wkoats: You might find that interesting too.18:42
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EriC^^oats: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133474518:43
EriC^^oats: seems it might be caused by unetbootin18:44
EriC^^oats: did you use unetbootin the first time or dd if=.... ?18:44
oatsunetbootin18:44
oatslast night18:44
oatsworked fine18:44
oatsinstalled two ubuntu's successfully on my computer18:44
EriC^^aha! so you do confess to installing the second one! :P18:44
oatsguess it broke over night18:44
EriC^^lol18:44
EriC^^oats: try sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX18:45
oatsEriC^^: I don't recall installing it, but either way unetbootin loaded it18:45
EriC^^it's worth a shot18:45
oatsok18:45
lo0k3rhello everyone!!18:45
lo0k3rgreat to see so many!!18:46
EriC^^type sudo parted -l , and make sure you get the exact name of the usb's drive designation, sdc , etc.18:46
EriC^^oats: ^^18:46
compdocnot a fan of unetbootin18:46
oats?18:46
oatsI think it's /dev/sdc118:46
EriC^^make sure18:47
n88alright getting ready to pull my hair out on this one... i've been trying to get my external USB netgear WNDA3100v2 to play nicely and it doesn't seem to want to work... I followed a thread that seemed to be the solution but now the only wireless network it will connect to is the guest network and it fails to connect to any networks that require authentication (WPA)... i've installed ndiswrapper and got the broadcom 64 bit .inf file installed with ndiswrapper -18:47
oatssdc18:47
EriC^^and also only use the disk's name18:47
Arizonok i'm just trying out unetbootin and it can't detect the external harddrive18:47
EriC^^ok /dev/sdc18:47
Arizonthere's just a /18:47
EriC^^( without the 1 )18:47
n88here is some of the output that might be important: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9885727/18:47
lo0k3rI am working to deploy laptops to people in my area and have ran into a problem that has likely been covered here: for that i am sorry ahead of time for asking, but i have not been able to locate a solution.18:48
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lo0k3r           Hello   I am currently having trouble with the intel 965 chipset running on Linux Mint 17.1 Rebbecca. When launching chrome the screen will go black and the system seems to be unresponsive. I have looked and found only questions on this issues. We have a deployment of laptops with mint on them and need to make sure they are functioning on this platform properly.   Disabling Hardware acceleration dose not work.18:48
lo0k3r Sorry if this has been covered already but I was unable to locate a fix Any help is greatly appreciated   https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/140485818:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1404858 in Linux Mint "Graphics Crashes to Black Screen (intel gm965 integrated graphics chip)" [Undecided,New]18:48
oatsEriC^^: dd: error reading '/media/oats/kingston': is a directory18:48
EriC^^oats: ?18:48
EriC^^oats: what are you typing for dd if=/path/to/iso18:49
oatsoops18:49
EriC^^oats: it needs to be the path to the .iso18:49
oatsok18:49
squinty!mint | lo0k3r18:49
ubottulo0k3r: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org18:49
RobertJDohnertubottu that bug also affects Black Lab Linux and Ubuntu-GNOME18:49
ubottuRobertJDohnert: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:49
oatssec18:49
lo0k3ri did and they sent me here18:50
oatsEriC^^: How do I format the usb in ubuntu18:50
EriC^^oats: no need to18:50
NBhostin_anyone able to explain me why this sets the eth1 as route when i rebot the machine  https://dpaste.de/f08s18:50
oatsit has the unetboonin install not the iso18:50
EriC^^oats: it's not a problem it will overwrite it18:51
NBhostin_when i do sudo ifdown --exclude=lo -a && sudo ifup --exclude=lo -a after reboot its good again18:51
oatsok18:51
oatsI'd still like to know how to format a usb :p18:51
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EriC^^oats: man mkfs18:51
oatsEriC^^: Isn't dd supposed to be "used to build a linux filesystem on a device.."18:52
EriC^^oats: dd is disk dump18:53
EriC^^infer what you wish18:53
EriC^^:P18:53
oatswhich one unpacks an ios18:53
oatsthe mkfs description looks like it does that doesn' ti18:53
lo0k3r176 people here thats great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!18:53
lo0k3r177618:53
X123hah18:54
X12399% idle :)18:54
Linuxmanyea18:54
lo0k3rguys need help with this issue18:54
lo0k3r965 intel chipset18:54
NBhostin_goddamn everytime i rebote it sets the internal ip as gateway.....18:55
EriC^^oats: dd is a low level copier, it can make bit for bit copies it works on block levels18:55
oatsook18:55
EriC^^oats: it will copy the bootstrap, partition table, etc.18:55
EriC^^not just the files18:55
NBhostin_anyone very good at this? i so hate networking :P18:56
oatsook18:57
oatsI ran dd18:57
oatsI've been on this for ~3 hours now18:57
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oatshow do I know i dd is working18:57
lo0k3rit sits but ts working18:58
lo0k3rrun comand and wait18:58
mcphailoats: you can send it signals from another shell18:58
oatsmcphail: how18:58
EriC^^oats: sudo kill -USR1 $(pgrep dd)18:58
EriC^^it should be done in a few mins anyways18:59
oatswhat does that do?18:59
oats(eric)18:59
oatsdoesn't kill kill a process18:59
baubehey guys, I tried to install the NVidia drivers and locked my self out of my PC. I get blackscreen on boot (with the cursor blinking) and CTRL-ALT-F1 (to F12) doesn't work.18:59
baubeMy grub is also in silent splash18:59
EriC^^no kill sends signals18:59
n88if everything seems to be failing with this netgear external USB wifi device broadcom chipset BCM4323 which happens to be the only unlisted version here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx should i be compiling ndiswrapper from source and trying again (like some posts have said on the forum) or is that a waste of time18:59
mcphailoats: find the PID of the dd process and send "kill -USR1 $PID"18:59
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oats"By default, the message sent is the termination signal, which requests that the process exit. "19:00
mcphailoats: that's why you use -USR1 rather than default19:00
oatso, I thought USR1 was the user its running on19:00
oatswhat does it do19:00
oatsanyway EriC^^, it finished19:01
mcphailoats: it sends the USR1 signal the the dd process, of course! dd has been programmed to report its progress when it gets the signal19:01
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EriC^^oats: ok, try to restart19:02
oatsEriC^^: The usb doesn't look any different. In fact, the .iso I built from is still in there19:02
oatsshould I remove the iso file?19:02
EriC^^it doesn't matter i think19:02
* mcphail wonders what disk oats has overwritten...19:02
EriC^^you can if you want19:02
EriC^^actually yeah it's odd that it's there19:03
oatsok restarting19:03
Arizonmake startup disk feels like it's taking forever...19:03
Arizonit's been erasing for 15 min19:03
oatsmaybe it's because dd didn't have to overwrite, as there is no iso file from the install19:03
EriC^^i guess it's cause it has the same partition table19:03
Arizonthe drive is 118gb but there's only 1 gig written to it...19:03
oatsok I think it worked19:04
EriC^^oats: i think it did overwrite19:04
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EriC^^oats: hopefully it was due .. great19:04
oatsEriC^^: now for mik's tutorial19:05
oats[00:47] <miklcct> 1: boot from USB [00:47] <oats_ubuntu> also I don't remember installing ubuntu twice, what if the other install is some failed corrupted install [00:47] <miklcct> 2. mount the partitions [00:47] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: if both are hdd's i dont think it matters [00:47] <miklcct> 3. do a "cp --recursive --preserve=all" [00:47] <miklcct> 4. modify "/etc/fstab" [00:47] <miklcct> 5. chroot and install-grub19:05
oatsI am on step 2 now19:05
EriC^^oats: i think reinstalling would be best19:05
EriC^^you can get a list of the packages you installed already, and have them installed again in the fresh system19:06
EriC^^since it's a fresh install anyways19:06
oatsI imagine that would be easy, but I think it might be a good exercise in mounting and obscure linux things I don't know about"19:06
EriC^^oats: well, we can obliterate the mbr and reinstall grub if you want later19:07
EriC^^lol19:07
oatsI read tutorials for mounting, cp, and /etc/fstab/ and chroot a few hours ago, not anticipating the trouble with the boot19:07
Arizonhas anyone ever had a problem with startup disk being stuck on erase?19:07
EriC^^seriously though, you will have to not copy /proc/kcore and other files it will be a mess19:07
oatsWhat do you mean? Why wouldn't I copy those?19:07
EriC^^kcore is your memory19:08
EriC^^and proc run sys dev are virtual file systems created at boot time19:08
mcphailArizon: yes - it is a buggy, useless program19:09
oatscan't I just empty "20 GB volume", copy everything from "316 GB volume" to it, empty "316 GB volume", copy everything from home into it, and mount "316 GB volume" to the "20 GB volume" system's /home/?19:10
oats:p19:10
mcphailArizon: I've found it inly works reliably on a fresh reboot, format the drive to FAT and install without erasing19:10
mcphail*only19:10
oatsWhy can't it be that easy haha19:10
n88alright getting ready to pull my hair out on this one... i've been trying to get my external USB netgear WNDA3100v2 to play nicely and it doesn't seem to want to work... I followed a thread that seemed to be the solution but now the only wireless network it will connect to is the guest network and it fails to connect to any networks that require authentication (WPA)... i've installed ndiswrapper and got the broadcom 64 bit .inf file installed with ndiswrapper -19:11
n88here is some of the output that might be important: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9885727/19:11
mcphailoats: what are you actually trying to do? Whatever it is, I;m sure there's an easier way...19:11
oatsthere is19:11
oatsEriC^^: Is it possible for me to do it Mik's way?19:11
Arizonmcphail, so just cancel the erase?19:13
Arizonmcphail, what should i use to format?19:13
Arizoni'm using gparted right now and should i ave partition table as msdos?19:14
mcphailArizon: cancel it and reboot. It doesn't work properly without the reboot (not sure if log in/out works). I usually format with gparted. You just need a FAT partition to install files onto19:14
mcphailArizon: msdos partition table will be fine, with a single primary partition19:15
EriC^^oats: yes it's possible i guess19:15
Arizonmcphail, the primary harddrive has a ext4 110 gig, extended 1.75 ig, and a linux swap 1.7519:15
oatsEriC^^: Can you help :p19:16
Arizonmcphail, i thought i had to make my external ext4 as well19:16
EriC^^oats: ok19:16
oatsyay19:16
EriC^^first use rsync and --exclude19:16
mcphailArizon: yes, but aren't you using the external disk as the install disk>19:16
oatshe says "2. mount the partitions"19:16
Arizonmcphail, yes19:16
mcphail?19:16
Arizonmcphail, in windows i always used FAT32, is there a difference?19:16
oatsrsync19:16
oats?19:17
mcphailArizon: then, for the time being, you'll need it as FAT(32). Startup disk creator writes the files to a FAT partition19:17
Arizonwhat is align to for in gpart?19:18
Arizonmcphail, it's right now in MiB but there's 2 other options19:18
oatsah, alright19:18
mcphailArizon: not needed for these purposes. Just ignore19:18
oatswhich files do I exclude?19:18
pc-mooni have run hotspot by ubuntu and everything is ok but my mobile cant see the wifi19:18
oatsEriC^^: And what did mik mean by '2. mount the partitions"?19:18
EriC^^oats: yes it's a copying tool, it will checksum the files after it copies them, it also uses a differencing algorithm which is pretty cool19:19
EriC^^( in other applications )19:19
no_gravityhello! the internet connection on my laptop became strangely laggy. how would you guys go about finding the reason? my other computer that goes throug the same router is working fine.19:19
Arizonmcphail, and after i do this i can just use dd to write the iso onto the disk? or should i just use usb-write?19:19
EriC^^oats: type sudo parted -l and check the 2 ext4 partitions19:19
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Arizonmcphail, err i mean Startup Disk creator19:20
iptableno_gravity: 1. did it just start happening, 2. did it start happening after a boot/reboot, 3. did it start happening after update/upgrade/reinstall?19:20
iptableArizon: use startup disk creator19:20
EriC^^oats: type sudo mkdir /mnt/installation /mnt/home19:20
iptableArizon: it will correctly install the liveCD/USB onto your usb disk19:20
oatsEriC^^: Both are ext4, am I supposed to mount them to something? :p19:20
samueldmqhi, is there an specific channel to talk about python-flake8 ? (https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-flake8/+gethelp)19:20
no_gravityiptable: it started happening today. yes, i did an "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" today.19:21
iptablesamueldmq: tried #python ?19:21
EriC^^oats: yes mount the 300gb disk to /mnt/home and the other to /mnt/installation19:21
EriC^^or /mnt/root19:21
samueldmqiptable, will try, thanks ... just got #ubuntu on that link above19:21
oatsEriC^^: Where, in the USB ubuntu demo, 316gb volume or 20gb volume, do I make /mnt/home and /mnt/installation19:21
iptableno_gravity: so it started after a package upgrade. which packages did you upgrade? was kernel a part of this upgrade?19:21
EriC^^oats: open a terminal and type sudo mkdir /mnt/home /mnt/installation19:22
oatsEriC^^: Are you sure? I'm presently running on the USB19:22
no_gravityiptable: i have no idea. i just did "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" like i always do.19:22
EriC^^yes19:22
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oatsok19:22
EriC^^they will stay on the disks :P19:22
iptableno_gravity: it makes sense to read what upgrade tells you is going to do...19:22
oatsok done19:23
oatsWhy am I mounting them on the usb?19:23
iptableno_gravity: you could try booting into grub menu and choosing an older kernel to begin with (hold eiher ctrl or shift or alt during boot ... I can't remember which one). Then choose advanced options for ubuntu and choose a kernel 1-older than latest one on your list.19:23
EriC^^oats: you're in a live session right now, you're mounting them in the live session, it's like you're making a dir that you can access that file system under19:24
no_gravityiptable: no way to diagnose if it really is the kernel?19:24
Arizoniptable, when it says sotred in reserved extra space.... if i have it at 0 then will that mean i can't save anything to the external?19:25
MannyLNJHi. I'm trying to install a printer on my ubuntu desktop and need some help. I installed the software from http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/laserjet/hp_laserjet_p1006.html but I can't tell if it's working. I have no screen on the compuiter it's attached to only ssh and Remote Desktop availible19:25
Arizoniptable, i plan on making the external drive a fully operational ubuntu distro that i can do stuff on19:25
iptableno_gravity: there is: boot into 1 older kernel. If that doesn't have an issue, boot back into latest. if that has an issue - its the kernel (or more drivers in the kernel)19:25
iptableArizon: if you want to install ubuntu ONTO the external drive (as opposed to using it as livecd/usb), then during installation choose btrfs/ext419:26
no_gravityiptable: im running a pretty customized grub menu. not sure if i can boot inta an older kernel.19:27
iptableno_gravity: if you customize your grub menu and perform apt-get upgrade without reading the output, I would guess you can figure out how to make it boot an older kernel...19:27
nullbyte_j fedora-social19:27
oatsEriC^^: But I can already access them in the /media/oats/ dir19:27
iptableno_gravity: just modify it again...19:27
Arizoniptable, so what's the stored in rserved extra space for then?19:27
oatsthey show up under the devices19:28
iptableArizon: reserved space on ext4?19:28
Arizoniptable, what's that mean though? what's the point of reserved space?19:28
EriC^^oats: oh, unmount them in nautilus19:28
oatsEriC^^: what's the difference?19:29
EriC^^oats: it will facilitate stuff19:29
oatsnautilus?19:29
EriC^^oats: yes, the file manager19:29
Arizoniptable, no in startup disk it says "When starting up from this disk, documents and settings will be: "19:29
oatsand is sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda/ /mnt/root right?19:29
iptableArizon: space reserved for root/system. You want it to be 5% more or less.19:29
Arizoniptable, then there's 2 options "Stored in reserved extra space" and "Discarded on shutdown, unless you save them elsewhere"19:29
Arizoniptable, ok so 2 gig is more than enough?19:30
EriC^^oats: no need for ext4, and did you make the /mnt/root dir?19:30
oatsyeah19:30
iptableArizon: so you are making it a liveusb/livecd, not a fully functional ubuntun installation?19:30
oatsEriC^^: Okay I unmounted them19:30
EriC^^oats: and you need to specify the partition /dev/sda1 or sda2 .. etc.19:30
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oatsEriC^^: I'm not sure which one19:31
iptableArizon: lieUSB/CD will not allow you to upgrade for example as the kernel is part of the boot process on the read-only ISO system etc. know what you want to do first. also installing GPU drivers is out of the question on it19:31
oatsmaybe sda1?19:31
oatsand the docs say you need to follow mount -t with the filesystem type19:31
EriC^^oats: what's the size and file system type?19:32
EriC^^oats: sudo parted -l19:32
Arizoniptable, i want to make a fully functional installation19:32
iptableoats: you don't need -t, mount should figure it out, it's good like that19:32
EriC^^oats: that doc was last updated in dec 200419:32
oatssda number 1 is 316 gb19:33
iptableArizon: in that case, you need to boot the installer form a CD/USB stick and install ubuntu to your external drive. Not put a liveusb installer on it.19:33
EriC^^oats: ok, mount that under /mnt/root or /mnt/installation19:33
Arizoniptable, wait so i need another external media so i can install this?19:33
oatsdo I need -t?19:33
EriC^^oats: no19:33
iptableoats no19:33
iptableArizon: yes19:33
Arizoniptable, if that's the case then i'm just gonna write over the current harddrive on this spare computer19:33
Arizoniptable, ahh kk i was confused19:34
iptableArizon: you cannot install ubuntu for a media that has ubuntu installer on it.19:34
Arizoniptable, you can only do it to other media19:34
Arizoniptable, right?19:34
iptableyes19:34
iptablewell, you *can* do it if you use separater partitions etc, but that gets confusing for most part19:34
oatsEriC^^: ok I think it mounted19:34
iptableArizon: ^19:34
MannyLNJWould someone please help me with a printing problem.19:35
EriC^^oats: ok, get the other file system and mount it under /mnt/home19:35
iptableMannyLNJ: "but I can't tell if it's working" - try printing something?19:36
oatsEriC^^ ok19:36
MannyLNJiptable: I don't know how to print.  How do I find out the name of the printer? I am CLI impared and the GUI I got up looks different than the local GUI19:36
sevardHey guys.  Is there a version of the live CD without an "install to HDD" option?  My sister wants to try out linux on a live CD but I'm afraid her kids will overwrite her HDD.19:37
Arizoniptable, :D thanks for the information it all works now!19:37
iptableMannyLNJ: uhm, use the different GUI to start gedit or some other text editor, press ctrl+p and print?19:37
oatsEriC^^: now wat19:37
MannyLNJiptable: I did not know about gedit. I've been using ssh to connect. I'm tying to use a laptop with a cracked lcd as a print server19:38
iptableMannyLNJ: or use this (found by typing in "ubuntu print from cli" into google...) http://askubuntu.com/questions/432746/print-from-command-line19:38
oatssync --exclude="" --exclude="" /mnt/root /mnt/home/19:38
oats?19:38
iptableoats: rsync19:38
EriC^^oats: you want to erase /mnt/root completely first19:39
iptablewhy --exclude=@@ ?19:39
EriC^^iptable: he's doing something you dont want to know19:39
EriC^^lol19:39
iptableEriC^^: as, one of those ... rsync has a switch that will erase from destination too, archive I think19:39
oatsEriC^^ I'm pretty sure mn/root contains all of my settings and packages and files and all19:40
EriC^^oats: your stuff should be on the home one right?19:40
EriC^^that's the one you were booting, right?19:40
EriC^^the large disk19:40
oatsroot is the 287 gb one19:40
oatshome is the 16 gb one19:41
EriC^^hmm that is wrong19:41
oatsshould I switch the names?19:41
iptableEriC^^: oats: rsync -a << the -a will ensure that user permissions are copied and stuff in destination is deleted that doesn't exist in source etc19:41
EriC^^you first mounted the large disk at /mnt/root remember?19:41
EriC^^oats: type df -h19:41
EriC^^iptable: yup19:41
iptableEriC^^: I'll let you battle the checking if the mounts are correctly done, something smell screwy ;)19:42
oatssda1 is mounted on root19:42
EriC^^how big is it?19:42
oatssdb1 is mounted on home19:42
oatssdb1 is the small one19:42
oatssda1 is the big one19:42
iptablehow is root 287GB? :O19:42
EriC^^crap, i'm tired19:42
oats:p19:42
EriC^^oats: sorry, sudo umount /mnt/root19:43
oatsEriC^^: Can't I just rename the mounts?19:43
EriC^^sudo mount --move /mnt/home /mnt/root19:43
Arizonwhat exactly can a live cd do that a full install can't? can i still save documents and system changes on a live cd? or no?19:43
iptableoats: if you want to opy partitions, why not use clonezilla instead?19:43
iptableArizon: the liveCD will not allow you to effectively store system changes.19:44
oatsiptable: not sure19:44
RedheadedCupcakeI am trying to get netflix to work on 14.04 LTS I'm at the part where I have to accept the EULA, I can't scroll to accept19:45
iptableArizon: the reason is that the OS needs to load from a read-only storage before it loads your reserved space for changes (your customizations). By that time, it's too late. Full install doesn't have this issue, hence all software installs and upgrades work on full install19:45
iptableRedheadedCupcake: it doesn't work19:45
RedheadedCupcakeiptable, i have had it working before19:45
iptableRedheadedCupcake: netflix is fully supported by chrome on ubuntu 14.10 though. it has got all that is required for DRM and HTML5 playback, which is nice, fast, smooth and dynamic.19:45
lo0k3rtry use html 5 in settings instead of silver light19:45
oatsEriC^^: okay, now what19:46
RedheadedCupcakeiptable, so chromium?19:46
EriC^^oats: did you sudo mount --move ? and umount before that?19:47
iptableRedheadedCupcake: stable firefox on 14.04 doesn't support HTML5 DRM and stable so libraries don't either from what I remember. Chromium was not much luck either without patching, although I haven't tried that in ages. 14.10 with chrome works out of the box.19:47
RedheadedCupcakeiptable also can you tell me how to accept it because I'm stubborn and I want to see it not work for me19:47
oatsEriC^^: Yep19:47
EriC^^oats: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/root19:47
Arizoniptable, i'm getting an error when i try to install ubuntu along side my other distro19:47
oatssudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/root19:47
lo0k3rRedheadedCupcake:  http://www.dailylinuxnews.com/blog/2014/09/watch-netflix-on-linux-mint-debian-fedora-arch/19:47
iptableRedheadedCupcake: uhm, click accept. scroll down first to the bottom of the EULA to get the accept to work19:47
EriC^^wait19:47
lo0k3ryou may have seen this19:47
RedheadedCupcakeI've tried arrows, I've tried page up page down19:47
iptableRedheadedCupcake: also, if you cannot scroll down - it's not working19:47
RedheadedCupcakeI've tried clicking19:47
Arizoniptable, "file system is reporting the frespace as 3563630, not 3563629 clusters"19:47
EriC^^oats: sorry, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/home19:47
Arizoniptable, is this off by one error a big deal?19:47
PiciRedheadedCupcake: tab ?19:48
RedheadedCupcakepici tab is the magic button! Thank you19:48
iptableArizon: uhm, no idea. where what when. is this an actual error message? no? continue then.19:48
oatse19:48
oatsEriC^^: ok19:48
MannyLNJOk, the printer is working, How can I share it so I can see it on the Windows system19:48
EriC^^oats: bare with me, i'm a bit sleep deprived tonight :D19:49
oatsit's alright haha19:49
iptableMannyLNJ: connect tothe local print server via a web interface and configure sharing19:49
oatsare you sure 14.9 gb is big enough for root19:49
Arizoniptable, it says warning not error19:49
iptableMannyLNJ: for printing form windows, you will need samba sharing of printer instead. install samba server and configure.19:49
EriC^^oats: it should be ok19:49
EriC^^oats: if you want, you can remove the swap and leave the one on the other disk19:49
iptableArizon: I would need a screenshot. I can't read your mind where you are at and what you are doing...19:49
EriC^^since there are 2 swaps19:50
oatserm, should I?19:50
iptabledid you backup?19:50
iptableoats: ^19:50
oatshow do I rsync and what do I exclude now?19:50
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oatsiptables: backup what19:50
iptableoats: your data before doing all this19:51
oatsnah19:51
iptableoats: good luck then!19:51
neutralizeris there any tool to test vulnerabilities against windows server?19:51
oatsnothing is being deleted19:51
EriC^^iptable: it's a fresh install19:51
iptableok19:51
oatsI have some files and packages I installed19:51
lo0k3rmany19:51
iptableneutralizer: yes19:51
oatsthat should be preserved in the copy I think19:51
neutralizeriptable, what'd you suggest which is probably open source19:52
neutralizerby vulnerabilities I mean all found in CVE or whatever repository which is most used. I don't even know which is that19:52
iptableneutralizer: try metasploit19:53
oatsEriC^^?19:53
iptableneutralizer: otherwise, here is a comprehensive list: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxSecurityTools.html19:54
iptablethere is no one-tool-fits-all though19:54
neutralizeriptable, thanks I'll look19:55
lo0k3rNeutralizer: http://www.fastandeasyhacking.com/19:55
lo0k3rgood start19:55
neutralizeris the shittiest site I have seen in a long time, no offense19:56
lo0k3rlol19:56
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oatsthe artwork is nice19:56
oatslike anime19:56
lo0k3rhhhyyyyahh19:57
leonichello19:57
iptableuhm, not really. you want hacking/vulnerability/scanner tools, don't expect sites that look newer than 1980s. that's on purpose19:57
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neutralizermay be just not my taste19:57
BluesKajlooks amateur19:57
leonicproblem whit unrar  i can't open rar files19:57
iptableleonic: apt-get install unrar19:57
oatsthat's true19:57
iptableleonic: are they password protected?19:57
lo0k3rneutralizer if your testing your sys kali and pentoo are the way to go19:58
lo0k3ras all prob know19:58
leonici don think so19:59
EriC^^oats: type cd /mnt/root19:59
iptablekali: ubuntu/debian with a funky-looking-gui and preinstalled opensource packages ;)19:59
leonicbut  i am goint to chek19:59
oatsok19:59
EriC^^oats: make sure everything is mounted correctly with df -h19:59
iptableand check mount command20:00
iptablejust mount, without parameters20:00
oatssmall one is on root20:00
neutralizerlo0k3r, thanks I have seen kali but never used it, will it work fine in a VM?20:00
oatsbig one is on home20:00
Arizoniptable, i think it's working but how long would a resizing of a primary partition take?20:00
iptableArizon: ages.20:00
Arizoniptable, T_T eta?20:00
lo0k3ryes20:01
Arizoniptable, i mean it is a SSD20:01
neutralizerBTW did you guys watch Citizenfour Snowden movie?20:01
iptableArizon: it needs to first move stuff away from area that will be freed further to the top of the partition, then resize filesystem, then resize partition20:01
iptableArizon: the moving WILL take ages, SSD or not20:01
lo0k3rand pentoo may be a bit better because of custom needs20:01
no_gravitylooks like switching channels worked!20:01
oatsiptables: I don't think I was ever cognizant of that trend in retro styles: http://1337day.com/20:01
EriC^^oats: ok, did you cd /mnt/root ?20:02
lo0k3rjust be sure to enable networking in the VM client20:02
lo0k3rcheck box usually20:02
oatsEriC^^: Yes, I'm in root20:02
neutralizerI will enable networking20:02
EriC^^oats: type rm -r * .* , note the space between * and .*20:02
Arizoniptable, 1-2 hours is a generous estimate?20:02
EriC^^oats: sudo rm -r * .*20:03
iptableArizon: how many GB/TB?20:03
leonicno is nop a pass problem20:03
EriC^^oats: make sure you are in /mnt/root20:03
Arizoniptable, the harddrive holds 111gig theres about 15gig of actual stuff written on it20:03
oatsdescend into write-protected directory 'bin'?20:03
oatsEriC^^: Weren't there some files you said we had to preserve?20:04
EriC^^oats: type sudo rm -rf * .*20:04
iptableArizon: so 15GB of used data? should be up to an hour max.20:04
EriC^^oats: no that's the small one you're going to transfer your installation to20:04
Arizoniptable, all kk thanks20:04
oatsook20:04
iptableook is a very weird programming language20:05
leonicthey are cbr files i can open some but not al20:05
oatsEriC^^: Cannot remove directory '.'20:05
iptablehttp://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/ook.html20:05
LordDragonhey all. is there any way to reset Unity WITHOUT being in an X11 session?20:05
leonicand the ones that opesn are empty but they  have weight20:05
EriC^^oats: no problem, when it's done type ls -la /mnt/root20:06
iptableEriC^^: won't rm -rf .* remove ..* on match, i.e. top directory contents? I may be wrong.20:06
LordDragonwhen i login normally i get the GUI but an empty desktop20:06
LordDragonctrl alt f1 etc doesnt work20:06
LordDragonall i can do is get terminal via the recovery boot mode20:06
LordDragonbut it seems all the tools for resetting unity require x11 to be running20:06
iptableLordDragon: you get that once you login or don't even get a login prompt?20:06
oatsEriC^: okay, now what20:07
LordDragonnope. i get a normal login prompt. im in the gui20:07
LordDragonbut when i login20:07
LordDragoni just get the wallpaper and an empty desktop20:07
iptableLordDragon: if after login, go to console, create a new user and login to GUI via that new user. confirm that this bit works (so we know if it's global or user-specific settings)20:07
LordDragoni cant get to console from the desktop20:07
otaviobarretohi20:07
LordDragonctrl alt t or f1 or any of that doesnt work right20:08
jhutchins_wkLordDragon: Does Alt-F2 bring up the launcher window?20:08
iptableLordDragon: after that, doing login screen, click on the small icon next to user-password prompt bit, where you can choose your GUI (unity/unity-classic/last-x-session) and try unity and unity classic. see where you get with that20:08
LordDragonno20:08
otaviobarretoyeah20:08
iptableLordDragon: you said you can get console from recovery boot. do that. OR ctrl_alt_f2 when you see login prompt screen20:08
LordDragonctrl alt f2 does not work at th elogin prompt either. i just get a black screen with no cursor or text20:09
EriC^^oats: what's in /mnt/home ?20:10
iptableLordDragon: try ctrl+lt+f2 through to f620:10
iptableLordDragon: on each screen press ENTER to see if that brings the login prompt20:10
LordDragoniptable: i did. all give blank black screen with no text mode20:10
oatsEriC: I imagine everything from the large 290 gb disk20:11
LordDragonhow do i create a new user from console?20:11
iptableLordDragon: then I don't think it's your GUI. something else seems very wrong.20:11
EriC^^oats: ok type sudo rsync -av /mnt/home /mnt/root20:11
iptableLordDragon: useradd/adduser, then passwd username to change password20:11
EriC^^oats: i dont think /proc sys run dev are there cause it wasn't booted20:11
EriC^^you can ls -l /mnt/home to check20:11
oatsok well I already ran rsync20:12
oatswhy not cp?20:12
alexandros_chello, I am having a problem with ubuntu 14.04.1, I installed ubuntu on acer aspire 3810tz with a kingston hyperx 3k 250GB SSD and 8GB of RAM, it installs ok but ever so often with no indictor the dash and launcher will lockup and I am unable to log out of the system (even through another tty) or open another program. The only way to recover is to force a hard reboot. Another has any idea how to  resolve this20:12
alexandros_cissue? thanks20:12
LordDragoniptable: done. and how can i give it sudo prilvedges?20:12
EriC^^oats: if you want you can --exclude /mnt/home/home , cause you're going to leave the files there anyways20:12
iptableLordDragon: add it to admin group.20:12
EriC^^oats: rsync will checksum the files after it copies them20:12
oatsEriC^^: I already ran rsync, don't think I can exclude20:13
oatsWhy do we want to checksum?20:13
iptableLordDragon: user useradd or usermod20:13
LordDragoniptable: got i thanks20:13
iptableoats: because you want to make sure it copied them correctly?20:13
LordDragonit*20:13
iptablersync worksl ike that. its fast too20:14
jhutchins_wkalexandros_c: Do you have lm_sensors installed?  You could use a monitor to watch the temperature of the system - that's often what happens when a system gets too hot.20:14
alexandros_cjhutchins_wk: it is a default install, and no error is shown20:14
acmeraptorI opted for drive encryption on a re-install.  Following a reboot, is it possible to enter that key via a remote ssh session? Like any files I can update, it doesn't seem to allow it by default.20:15
iptableacmeraptor: no20:15
oatsEriC^^: When do I modify /etc/fstab?20:15
oatsis that the next step?20:15
iptableacmeraptor: you need to decrypt disk before you can boot into it and run ssh20:15
LordDragoniptable: you are right. its something worse. new user has empty desktop too after login... hmm20:16
iptableacmeraptor: hence most people only encrypt /home or /whatever/is/important. that way they can ssh in and enter password via ssh session20:16
alexandros_cjhutchins_wk: it is not the tempurature20:16
iptableLordDragon: yes. Looks like your have blown something in your system. what HAVE you done?20:16
iptablealexandros_c: nice assumption. now check.20:17
oatsEriC: it finished20:17
acmeraptoriptable: That's kinda what I thought, thanks.  I'm debating reinstalling, or I can just not reboot remotely.20:17
alexandros_ciptable: I have checked20:17
iptableacmeraptor: on my server, my root is not encrypted and my /var/lib/lxc and /var/lib/libvirt are.20:17
EriC^^oats: ok20:17
acmeraptorAlthough... encrypting my files only is probably just as secure.20:17
iptablealexandros_c: how? from BIOS? too late, it will have cooled down by then. CPU temperature changes really fast20:18
jhutchins_wkalexandros_c: How do you know it's not a thermal issue?20:18
EriC^^oats: now delete everything in /mnt/home except for /mnt/home/home20:18
LordDragoniptable: no idea lol. the last thing i did was try to install a mouse driver for razer mouse20:18
iptableacmeraptor: yes, I don't care if someone knows what packages were installed20:18
iptableLordDragon: how did you try to do that?20:18
EriC^^oats: type sudo find /mnt/home ! -iname "home" -exec rm '{}' \;20:18
acmeraptorExactly.  Re-install time! :)  Thanks again!20:19
LordDragoniptable: think it was an install script. think im just gonna nuke it and reinstall20:19
iptablealexandros_c: what's the graphics card btw? if it's nvidia or so, install proprietary driver to stop the machine using your CPU for graphics processing. it often causes overheats of CPU and/or GPU with opesource drivers on nvidia20:19
amberjHello20:20
alexandros_cbecause it  is not doing with other distros and I checked the temp under othe distros and it was no problem, iptable and jhutchins_wk20:20
iptableLordDragon: good idea. it seems to have nuked your system...20:20
oatsEriC^^: Could not remove lots of things because "is a directory"20:20
alexandros_ciptable, it is using intel graphis20:20
iptablealexandros_c: ubuntu's unity uses 3D acceleration though ;)20:20
amberjI'm trying to create an iptables rule so that only one particular URL is accessible (E.g. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.gm)20:20
EriC^^oats: add -rf , rm -rf '{}'20:21
fry__Is there a way to show hard drives on my desktop?20:21
iptablealexandros_c: does it happen with xubuntu or ubuntu's unity-fallback or other GUIs?20:21
alexandros_cit does not happen on Sabayon20:21
iptableamberj: impossible20:21
iptableamberj: iptables is a layer3 firewall not a web proxy. if you want that, you need a transparent/forced web proxy and iptables that blocks non-proxy access (proxy like squid)20:22
oatsEriC^^: ook, could you explain to me the structure of that command20:22
oatsand it's done20:22
iptablealexandros_c: I mean does it happen on ubuntu when using other GUIs than unity20:22
oatsShould I unpack all the files from /home/home/ home into mnt/home/20:22
oats?20:22
alexandros_chave not tried that  ones you mentioned iptable, but it has been running Sabayon KDE all day and I have not experience the problem nor is their plenty of fan activity20:23
amberjiptable, Would this not work for me? http://serverfault.com/questions/218707/iptables-rules-to-allow-http-traffic-to-one-domain-only20:23
amberjWhen I try to run: 'sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -d "https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.gm" --dport 443 -j ACCEPT' ... I get "iptables v1.4.12: invalid mask `details?id=com.google.android.gm' specified"20:23
jhutchins_wkalexandros_c: Not to be obtuse, but if the temp was ok on other distros AND the problem was not happening on other distros, that implies that it could be thermal.20:23
iptablealexandros_c: in ubuntu, install kde then and run that for a while. if it doesn't hang - it was overheating most likely on unity, or possibly network issues (disable unity's online search)20:24
chulisis there any problem if i install ubuntu32 on a laptop amd64?20:24
jhutchins_wkalexandros_c: Hard lock-ups are almost always hardware related in reliable distros.20:24
EriC^^fry__: gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.desktop volumes-visible true20:24
iptableamberj: no, it will not work. iptables can only block by IP (so it can block by domain as domain will map to IP). It cannot block by URL20:24
oatsEriC^^: What?20:25
iptablechulis: no20:25
iptablechulis: 64 is compatible with 32 bit software20:25
MannyLNJI had posted that the printer is working, and asked  How can I share it so I can see it on the Windows system but missed any answers because my girlfriend called me away20:25
EriC^^oats: nothing, that's for fry__ he left i guess20:25
amberjok thanks iptable :)20:25
k1l_chulis: if your hardware can go with 64bit there is no reason to not install 64bit20:25
amberjlemme try some proxy20:25
amberjbrb20:25
alexandros_chow so jhutchins_wk when the other DE also uses GPU acceleration and  also once I reboot after the problem it does not happen20:25
jhutchins_wkMannyLNJ: Sharing it in cups should make it visible to WIndows.20:25
fry__exit20:25
wadMannyLNJ, you probably need to use samba.20:25
iptableMannyLNJ: so let me repeat: to share with windows, isntall samba server and configure printer sharing in it's configs20:25
MannyLNJiptable: and jhutchins_wk thanks.20:26
oatsEriC^^: ook, what do I do now20:26
iptableMannyLNJ: for sharing with linux, confiure in cups (http://localhost:631 I tihnk goes to cups config page on local machine)20:26
alexandros_cplus I used ubuntu beofre on this computer with having this problem jhutchins_wk20:26
jhutchins_wkiptable: I don't think samba's necessary, windows can use ipp.20:26
chulismy reason is  that my distribution is not stable on my lapton20:26
jhutchins_wkchulis: No, not a problem, but not likely to help.20:27
iptablechulis: that would not be 32/64 bit issue20:27
k1l_chulis: i doubt that is because its 64bit.20:27
jhutchins_wkalexandros_c: iptable's idea is a good one, try a different desktop and see if it still hangs.20:27
MannyLNJI think samba is installed because I was able to edit the config for samba but I can't find CUPS in LXPanel which I use when I connect remotley20:27
jhutchins_wkalexandros_c: I like xfce myself.20:28
chulisi have tried with xubuntu64 and lubuntu 64 and same prblems20:28
k1l_chulis: what actual issue do you have there?20:28
iptablechulis: it's a HW issue most likely.20:28
EriC^^oats: yes, we need to move everything20:28
iptablechulis: dome a memtest?20:28
alexandros_cok thanks iptable and jhutchins_wk20:28
chulissome times the op.system fall down20:28
oatsEriC^^: everything is in /mnt/root/home/20:29
iptableMannyLNJ: please read everything I typed in for you...20:29
oatshow do I move it out of home and into root20:29
jhutchins_wkMannyLNJ: Cups is at localhost:63120:29
chulishw issue? my laptop is new20:29
k1l_chulis: we need specific error messages and more infos. so after a problem come here again and show the logs like "dmesg" and "syslog" and we can have a look and maybe solve it.20:29
MannyLNJiptable: I will scroll up20:29
jhutchins_wkMannyLNJ: That is the problem with relying on GUI panels, they can only do what the person who built them wants to do.20:29
iptablechulis: new/used is irrelevant20:29
chulisno error messages20:30
redruumchulis: New hardware is usually an issue with linux20:30
k1l_chulis: its just guessing without any specific errormessages from the logs20:30
jhutchins_wkchulis: New hardware is the most likely to fail.20:30
iptablechulis: tried ubuntu 14.10 instead?20:30
k1l_chulis: what happens if its "not stable"?20:30
OerHekschulis, what laptop exactly ? maybe there is more info20:30
iptableit's got a lot of driver improvements for new HW20:30
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adelohello20:31
jhutchins_wkchulis: All of the systems you've tried are just ubuntu with a different desktop, for a real test you'd have to try something like fedora live.20:31
leonichello again i am in a live session and  now i can install unrar20:31
chulisacer e16 amd quad core a6 up to .4gh and 4hbddr320:31
chulisup to 2.4ghz20:31
jhutchins_wk!es20:31
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.20:31
oatsEriC^^: How do I move everything from /mnt/root/home/ to /mnt/root/20:32
oatsand then mount the home folder20:32
k1l_chulis: what happens when its "unstable"? what program is that is making problems?20:32
EriC^^oats: you mean /mnt/home/home to /mnt/home ?20:32
lo0k3rleo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&x-yt-cl=84503534&v=hAFvAcXXfFg20:32
iptablechulis: try ubuntu 14.10. try running memtest. try booting into fedora, try to pinpoint at which moment the problem occurs (what apps are starting/ running).20:32
iptablechulis: now, go and do all that20:33
chuliswhen i m navigating with firefox20:33
chulisfor ej.20:33
lo0k3rwhoops ow well everyone watch that20:33
oatsEriC^^ no /mnt/home/ is empty, /mnt/root/home/ contains the whole system for some reason, including my home dir20:33
k1l_chulis: what happens then?20:33
EriC^^oats: that doesn't make sense20:34
iptablechulis: does it happen on websites with loads of flash and adverts?20:34
chuliswhen im navigating for ej. the computer close20:34
EriC^^oats: you just deleted everything in /mnt/home except for /mnt/home/home20:34
chulisand i have to init again20:35
* jhutchins_wk certainly hopes oats has backups of anything important.20:35
oatsEriC^^ I deleted /mnt/home/home after I found that it was empty20:35
iptablechulis: close? you mean turn off?20:35
chulisyes20:35
chulisturn off20:35
oatsI guess it kept the home/home dir but removed all of the sub dirs20:35
iptablechulis: install lm-sensors and check temperature. 70% sure it's overheating20:35
k1l_chulis: can you provoke that error again and after reboot (if you need to reboot) come again and show the logs? so we can see what was the issue20:35
chulislooking for a air ticket for example20:35
EriC^^oats: crap, yeah you're right20:35
oatsanyway, for some reason everything is in /root/home not /root/20:35
EriC^^oats: it's a good thing it's in /mnt/root though20:35
oatsEriC^^: What command would've prevented that?20:36
iptablechulis: if you have nvidia, also install the nvidia proprietary drivers to ensure the GPU does not overheat on bad drivers20:36
oatsand what do I do now20:36
EriC^^i really shouldn't be helping out tonight, i've not slept since yesterday and im sweating like a pig for some reason20:36
chulisi have amd radeon r420:36
oatsEriC^^: If you die, it'll be helping a good person on freenode.20:37
EriC^^lol20:37
iptablenot sure what the driver should be for radeon, but check and install it. install lm-sensors and run sensors and monitor temperature. could be bad fan.20:37
iptablechulis: ^20:37
oatsEriC^^: So what do I do now?20:37
k1l_fglrx is the amd video driver20:37
iptablechulis: ^20:37
EriC^^everything is in /mnt/root?20:37
chulisit turns off any time even looking a video or navigating with fireox20:37
lo0k3r:)20:37
iptablechulis: you have been given enough troubleshooting steps to do. now execute.20:38
EriC^^oats: ok, we can do it the very easy way20:38
oatsEriC^^: /mnt/root/home/20:38
oatsI don't know why20:38
EriC^^oats: type gksu nautilus /mnt/root/home20:38
oatsno package gksu20:39
oatsunable to locate package gksu from apt-get20:39
EriC^^sudo apt-get install gksu doesn't work?20:40
oatsnope20:40
lo0k3rgksudo from synaptic20:40
chulishow can i see the log after turn off with trouble?20:40
Ben64its in universe20:40
EriC^^ok, usually you should always use gksu with gui apps, but since you're in a live session it wont really matter20:40
k1l_chulis: in /var/log they are named: dmesg.0 or .1 and syslog .0 or .120:40
EriC^^oats: type sudo nautilus /mnt/root/home20:40
EriC^^oats: never do that in your installation though20:41
oatswhy not?20:41
EriC^^it'll mess up permissions20:41
oatswhat does gksu do?20:41
EriC^^Ben64: ah, thanks20:42
EriC^^oats: gksu is in the universe repository20:42
* iptable needs to go20:42
oatsok20:42
oatsanyway20:42
oatsI have the nautilus gui open20:42
oatswhat no20:42
oatsw20:42
chuliswhere can i post the log?20:42
Ben64!paste | chulis20:43
ubottuchulis: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:43
EriC^^oats: ok, press ctrl+h to show all files20:43
oatsdone20:43
EriC^^oats: then press ctrl+a to select all, right click, cut20:43
EriC^^go one level back to /mnt/root20:43
EriC^^and paste20:43
EriC^^oats: since we're moving it will keep the permissions the way they are20:44
chulishttp://paste.ubuntu.com/9887287/20:44
n88alright getting ready to pull my hair out on this one... i've been trying to get my external USB netgear WNDA3100v2 to play nicely and it doesn't seem to want to work... I followed a thread that seemed to be the solution but now the only wireless network it will connect to is the guest network and it fails to connect to any networks that require authentication (WPA)... i've installed ndiswrapper and got the broadcom 64 bit .inf file installed with ndiswrapper -20:45
n88here is some of the output that might be important: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9885727/20:45
oatsok20:45
oatsEriC^^: Should I delete nome?20:45
k1l_chulis: do you have the ubuntu fglrx video driver installed?20:46
oatsor copy /root/home files to /home/20:46
oats?20:46
chulisno idea kll_20:46
k1l_chulis: ok: go to system-settings > updates&software. then the last tab "prop. drivers or smth like this" there you can choose to install a amd driver for your video card.20:47
k1l_chulis: it should be named "fglrx".20:47
EriC^^oats: hmm20:47
EriC^^oats: we need to send them to /mnt/home20:48
EriC^^dont copy though it will mess up the permissions20:48
oatsok20:48
oatsok20:48
oatsso what do I do20:48
EriC^^and you cant move cause it's across file systems so it will also mess them up20:48
chulisi was lookin for in synaptic and appeas not installed20:48
EriC^^oats: you'll have to rsync it20:48
oatsEriC^^ but cp -p will preserve permissions won't it?20:48
k1l_chulis: did you find the menu i was talking about? its very user friendly to understand20:48
Nemesis][Does anyone have any idea why netstat-nat doesn't work under 14.04.01?  It complains about "Could not read info about connections from the kernel, make sure netfilter is enabled in kernel or by modules." but the modules are loaded but neither /proc/net/ip_conntrack nor /proc/net/nf_contrack exist.  The modules: nf_conntrack, nf_defrag_ipv4, nf_conntrack_ipv4 are loaded.20:49
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EriC^^oats: yeah but rsync will also checksum20:50
Giggioloerver irc.darksin.net20:50
MannyLNJiptable: thanks for all the help. Locally I can access CUPS but by going to 192.168.1.200:631 but from the other systems can't see it20:50
oatsEriC^^: okay, what's the command?20:51
EriC^^oats: sudo rsync -av /mnt/root/home/. /mnt/home20:53
anarkhoswhat do you think about nvidia accelerated graphics driver (version 96) vs. nvidia binary xorg driver (and kernel module as well as vdpau library)?20:54
anarkhosthe former is at any rate too old for steam20:54
oatsRtiC: ok what next20:55
oatsEriC^^*20:55
EriC^^oats: remove everything from /mnt/root/home20:56
EriC^^cd to it and type rm -rf * .*20:56
oatsok20:57
oatsEriC&&20:57
oats^^20:57
oatsEriC^^20:57
oatsmount /mnt/home /mnt/root/home?20:58
EriC^^oats: type sudo nano /mnt/root/etc/fstab20:58
krizoekwhat could make the computer freeze and show "kernel: [109620.067118] Code: 3d a1 29 00 3b 05 ff 8d c3 00 89 c2 0f 8d 25 fe ff ff 48 98 49 8b 4d 00 48 03 0c c5 60 33 d1 81 f6 41 20 01 74 cb 0f 1f 00 f3 90 <f6> 41 20 01 75 f8 eb be 0f b6 4d d0 48 8b 55 c0 44 89 ef 48 8b nul nul... in both kern.log and syslog?20:58
EriC^^oats: in another terminal type sudo blkid20:58
EriC^^oats: if you still have sudo nautilus open close it20:59
EriC^^as you can break your system easily20:59
DaroleCan someopne please help.... Fairly new and cant get the SSO thing to work on the forum. I have a ubuntu one account, but the forum says its a problem. Trouble is I've no idea who to contact as I cant post anything to ask for help !20:59
EriC^^with a drag and drop or something21:00
oatsok21:00
oatsEriC^^: got fstab and blkid21:00
chulisikll_ i have found 3 options first one im using serverx.org other is private amd fglrx and the third amd fglrx-updates prvate21:00
oatsnow what21:00
k1l_chulis: choose the "fglrx" one.21:01
EriC^^oats: first get the uuid of your installation, as it has changed from disk to disk21:01
k1l_chulis: its the driver from amd, that should bring you a better hardware support. maybe the freezes are gone then21:01
EriC^^it's /dev/sdb1 iirc21:02
oatssdb1?21:02
oatsook21:02
oatsgot it21:02
EriC^^yeah, replace the uuid that has the mountpoint at "/" in fstab with that uuid21:02
oatsshithsit21:02
oatsshit21:03
oats1sec21:03
oatsEriC^^: ok done21:03
oatsnow hwat21:03
EriC^^get the uuid of the home partition21:04
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chuliskll_ i will change and test21:04
chulisthnks a lot21:04
EriC^^and make an entry for it that looks like the UUID=2354327543632   /home    ext4          defaults       0       221:05
oatsEriC^^ ok21:06
oatsEriC?21:07
Bashing-omDarole: Join #ubuntuforums and explain there ,.. the ops will take care of you .21:08
EriC^^oats: you'll need to reinstall grub21:08
oatsok21:08
oatshow21:08
chuliskll_ i cant change the driver21:08
oatsalso what about the chroot thing21:09
chulisi select but it contnues the same21:09
EriC^^oats: which swap do you want to use?21:10
EriC^^oats: it's set up to use the one on the home partition right now21:10
EriC^^ill brb in 1min21:10
animalroamWhen setting a cron job like * * * * * echo php /root/hi.php >> bob.html , how would you "php /root/hi.php" to run and the result is echoed instead of echoing "php /root/hi.php"?21:10
oatsEriC^^: Alright, whichever one you remember21:11
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EriC^^animalroam: what do you mean the result is echo'd ?21:12
oatsEriC^^: Which one do you recommend?21:12
animalroamEriC^^: The result of the script21:13
EriC^^animalroam: you are already sending it's stdout to bob.html21:13
animalroamEriC^^: This is what's in bob.html : "php /root/hi.php"21:14
oatsWhich swap should I use?21:14
EriC^^oats: it's up to you, if you keep use the one on the home disk you can resize the root partition to 20gb or so21:15
oatsWhich do you recommend?21:15
EriC^^i'd use the one on home to give "/" some room21:15
oatsok how do I do that21:15
oatsand how do I do grub21:15
EriC^^just leave it the way it is21:15
EriC^^ctrl+o to save21:15
XYZ1test21:16
oatsEriC^^ ok now what21:17
EriC^^and resize "/" later21:17
Bashing-omDarole: I observed ya joining #ubuntuforums, Did the topic directive help ?21:17
oatshow do I do that21:18
EriC^^oats: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /run /sys; do mount -B $i /mnt/root$i; done21:18
EriC^^oats: man resize2fs21:18
oatsWhat will running that for loop do21:18
EriC^^oats: it will mount bind the virtual file systems on the live session to the mounted installation21:19
oatsok21:19
oatswhy do we want that21:19
EriC^^oats: add sudo before do, do sudo mount21:19
EriC^^i mean after do21:20
oatsok done21:20
EriC^^oats: ok type sudo chroot /mnt/root21:21
oatsok21:21
EriC^^grub-install --reinstall /dev/sdb21:21
oatsnow hwat21:21
animalroamEriC^^: So do you have any idea how to run the php script and then echo the result of the script?21:21
EriC^^animalroam: what do you mean by echo the result? echo where?21:22
oatsreinstall isn't recognized21:22
animalroamEriC^^: echo php /root/hi.php >> bob.html21:22
EriC^^lol, im really tired :o21:22
oats--reinstall21:22
EriC^^oats: grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb21:22
animalroamecho php /root/hi.php >> bob.html only echoes the string 'php /root/hi.php' but doesn't echo the result of that script21:22
oatsERic: What does that do21:22
oatsinstall finished21:23
EriC^^animalroam: ok, * * * * * php /root/hi.php >> bob.html21:23
EriC^^animalroam: that will send the result to bob.html21:23
oatsEriC^^: Now what21:24
EriC^^oats: update-grub21:24
oatsok done21:24
oatsnow what21:24
oatswait21:24
EriC^^?21:24
oatsgrub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for dev/sdc1. Check your device.map.21:24
oatsdone21:24
oatsWhat's the error mean21:25
EriC^^it's no problem21:25
EriC^^it's to do with the live usb21:25
EriC^^did it mention Found linux ......21:25
EriC^^?21:25
oatsook21:25
oats,hm21:25
EriC^^hm?21:26
oatsIt found linux image twice21:26
EriC^^ok great21:26
oatsand found initrd imge twice21:26
animalroamhmm21:26
EriC^^type exit21:26
oatsok21:26
EriC^^then restart, go into your bios and select sdb to be booted first21:26
animalroamok that works, but let's say I had a function called function.  Would the php script execute first and be passed to the function?21:26
oatsI don't know which one is sdb21:27
EriC^^it's the one you're not booting right now21:27
oatsI have two options21:27
EriC^^animalroam: what do you mean?21:27
pbxi want my screen brightness to be max whe i'm plugged in to AC.  is there a way to do that?  14.04, Dell Latitude E724021:27
oatsone is the big one and one is the small one21:28
oatsI don't know their names21:28
oatsWhat is that -l command21:28
mcasadono puedo poner ubuntu 14.04 en castellano21:29
oatsEriC^^: How do I list the discs I mean21:29
EriC^^oats: sudo parted -l21:29
EriC^^pbx: yeah i think you asked me that once21:29
mcasadohola alguen en castellano plis21:30
EriC^^pbx: i made this back then http://paste.ubuntu.com/9887923/21:30
animalroamEriC^^: I have a program called bitcoind.  I need to do bitcoind sendtoaddress /root/address.php 0.0001 where address.php is important for determining the address.  Instead, the program tries to send 0.0001 to the string '/root/address.php'21:30
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EriC^^pbx: put it in /etc/pm/power.d/21:31
pbxEriC^^, looks familiar. thanks :)21:31
EriC^^pbx: no problem :)21:31
oatsEric hopefully it worked21:32
EriC^^yeah21:32
EriC^^it would be funny if it didn't though :D haha21:32
EriC^^lol, i'm just really tired :D21:33
oatslol21:33
oatsEriC^^: ok the only device it shows is Computer and its 19.7 gb capacity21:33
animalroamEriC^^: Any ideas :\?21:33
oatsit doesn't show the big one under devices for some reason21:33
mytrueheroI'm not able to get a script (/etc/init.d/unicorn) to start on boot; I've run "sudo update-rc.d unicorn defaults", and the script works when I run it manually ("/etc/init.d/unicorn start"), but if I reboot, the service isn't running. How can I debug?21:33
oatsis that okay?21:33
EriC^^oats: yeah21:33
EriC^^so it booted?21:33
oatsmhm21:33
oatshow do we know it accesses home21:33
EriC^^type df -h21:33
EriC^^and free -m21:34
skinuxWhich is the best software to use for ripping an Audio disc to MP3 format?21:34
MannyLNJ Here is my (new) problem. Printer on my linux system is shared in CUPS.  I can print locally on my Linux box but Windows shows the job as being sent CUPS shows it as completed but nothing comes out.21:35
skinuxStrictly for my own listening purposes, not for sharing/pirating21:35
oatsEriC^^21:35
oatsok21:35
oatsnow what21:35
EriC^^oats: is the swap there?21:36
EriC^^did you check free -m ?21:36
oatsyep21:36
oatsswap there21:37
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larry_one two21:38
oatsIs a mount sort of like a device-scale symlink?21:38
oatsEriC^^21:39
EriC^^oats: ok21:39
EriC^^oats: well, you can resize the root partition21:40
oatshow?21:40
oatsand Is a mount sort of like a device-scale symlink?21:40
EriC^^you should do that from the live usb though21:40
EriC^^oats: mount tells the kernel to attach a filesystem under a dir21:41
aarobcHi! So, got a new lappy, no ethernet port, only wifi. Wireless worked great on the usb live boot, but after install, when I try to select the propriatary wifi driver, it thinks for a sec, and then switches back to the "do not use this device" option21:41
oatsit says sdb1 is using 20.2 gb21:41
EriC^^hmm21:42
oatsThere appear to be two swaps, one in sda and one in sdb21:42
aarobcso I wondered if it was some software on the drive, so I selected the cd as a software source, and tried it, and at that point it would just hang and do nothing.21:42
aarobcWhat do?21:42
oatsEriC^^: Is that alright/21:42
EriC^^oats: yeah i guess21:42
oatsDidn't you say it should only be in sda though (home)21:43
oats?21:43
EriC^^can you paste sudo parted -l ?21:43
EriC^^and df -h ?21:43
oats_ubuntuEriC^^: http://pastebin.com/K5D8QhXa21:45
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: ok, it looks good21:46
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: if you want to remove the 4gb swap on root's disk, i guess you should boot a live usb21:47
EriC^^and then resize it21:47
oats_ubuntuEriC^^: Is there a downside21:47
oats_ubuntuto me not doing that21:47
oats?21:47
EriC^^not really21:47
EriC^^um sorry21:47
imbezolyou can just unmount the swap21:47
EriC^^i'm confused21:47
oats_ubuntuSorry for what21:47
ejuanswapoff21:48
EriC^^he wants to use the space, he has another swap21:48
oatsimbezol: What about the booting on the live usb21:48
imbezoloats: i'm thinking it's not really necessary21:49
oats_ubuntuwhy not?21:49
EriC^^oats: 20gb is pretty enough i guess, but if you want you can remove the swap21:49
EriC^^i thought it was like 14 earlier21:49
oats_ubuntuEriC^^: Doesn't it say 20 in the pastebin21:49
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: it is 20, removing the swap will make it 24gb21:49
oats_ubuntuthat's odd, I thought it was 16 and 20 but apparently it set it to 20 and 4 for the swap21:50
oats_ubuntuIs there any upside to having a swap there?21:50
EriC^^yeah it's a more standalone disk i guess21:50
tataHow to install anti-aliasing and hinting to my older Lubuntu 10.04 ?21:50
EriC^^if you get another home disk some day for some reason you'll still have swap on the root one21:50
oatsalright I think I will keep it for that very good reason :p21:50
EriC^^:D21:51
oats_ubuntuthank you very much21:51
oats_ubuntufor all your help21:51
oats_ubuntua few hours last night21:51
EriC^^no problem21:51
oats_ubuntua few hours today21:51
oats_ubuntu+100 to you21:51
Bashing-om!lucid | tata21:51
ubottutata: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu.  Desktop support ended May 9 2013. Server support continues. See http://ubottu.com/y/lucid for more details.21:51
purplechello how do i ubuntu21:52
oats_ubuntuEriC^^: What do you do? Are you a software developer or sysadmin or something21:52
EriC^^i'm a mechanical engineer21:52
oats_ubuntuAre you in #physics too then?21:52
imbezoloats: you currently have swap on spinning disk and SSD21:52
EriC^^lol no21:52
imbezoloats: given the huge disparity in their performance i'd recommend against that21:53
tatayes, kernel still supported, I need some aplication for hinting and antialiasing21:53
oats_ubuntuEriC^^: What are you on?21:53
EriC^^channels you mean?21:53
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oats_ubuntuimbezol: How would I remove the bad one then?21:53
oats_ubuntuEriC^^: Yeah21:53
EriC^^##linux and here21:53
oats_ubuntuDo you mechanically engineer linux systems21:53
imbezoloats_ubuntu: myself i'd delete the 20 gig swap on ssd, expand / to be all but 4 gigs of the drive, then create a 4 gig swap21:53
purplecwhere would you suggest to go for beginner programming?21:54
EriC^^oats_ubuntu: no i've been using linux for about 8 months now21:54
imbezoloats_ubuntu: and stop using the swap on your 7200 drive21:54
EriC^^i'm a design engineer in automation/industrial stuff21:54
oats_ubuntuimbezol: How do you know it's ssd? the swap is 4 gigs, the ssd is 20 gigs21:54
imbezoloats_ubuntu: oh sorry i misread the partition21:55
imbezoloats_ubuntu: actually i think your SSD is probably set up properly already21:55
imbezoloats_ubuntu: maybe just get rid of the 7200 swap21:55
oats_ubuntuWhat 7200 swap?21:56
imbezol/dev/sda shows a swap21:56
XiferoDiferousjkhk'21:56
imbezoloats_ubuntu: run swapon -s to see what's actually in use21:56
oats_ubuntuimbezol: /dev/sda5                               partition37488600-121:57
imbezoloats_ubuntu: and it doesn't show a /dev/sdb5?21:57
oats_ubuntuEriC^^: Why did you start using nix21:57
oats_ubuntunop21:57
imbezoloats_ubuntu: you could do swapon /dev/sdb5 and swapoff /dev/sda521:58
imbezolto start using the SSD for swap21:58
MannyLNJSo I'm frustrated now because I am stupid and can't get a CUPS shared printer to show on my windows PC21:58
oats_ubuntuimbezol: Why would I do that?21:58
imbezolperformance?21:58
oats_ubuntuand how do I know sdb is ssd and sda is not21:58
imbezoloats_ubuntu: in your printout of parted -l it shows the drive models21:58
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oats_ubuntuimbezol: I don't see "sdd" anywhere?21:59
imbezoloats_ubuntu: stick the drive model into google22:00
imbezolthe sizes are a giveaway as well22:00
imbezol24 GB would be incredibly small for a spinning disk22:00
imbezol(and an SSD anymore too :)22:01
purplecwould anyone mind sharing on how they learned...is it linux or *nix?22:02
imbezol*n?x :)22:03
k1l_purplec: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat.22:04
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anarkhospumba: fool around in virtualbox? or just install some distro and try to use it for your typical tasks22:04
woozyhey guys could i get some help22:04
imbezoldepends on your question22:05
purplecwhat would be a good channel for programming?22:05
woozywell i just installed ubuntu from elementary and thought itd be a good idea to do the encryption thing when installing. I now after enter my password to start the boot then i get some errors but it still boots22:06
oats_ubuntuimbezol: ok so do I want the swap on the big or the small22:06
oats_ubunturight now it's on the big22:07
imbezoloats_ubuntu: myself i'd keep it on the small SSD22:07
oats_ubuntusda22:07
oats_ubuntuok22:07
g4vr0chepurplec: You want to join ##programming22:07
ryan_where am i ?22:08
imbezoloats_ubuntu: your swap really only gets used when you run out of memory and it has to page some out to disk22:08
oats_ubuntuAre you sure the sdb isn't too small22:08
oats_ubuntuwait so why wouldn't I use the bigger one sda since it has more mmeory22:08
oats_ubuntuor do you mean ram22:08
imbezoloats_ubuntu: well if you look at the partitions, you already have a swap partition there.. you're just not using it22:08
minimecryan_: Chat, #ubuntu Channel, Cyberspace ;)22:08
imbezoloats_ubuntu: so i'd say use it instead of wasting it, or delete it and expand /22:08
oats_ubuntuok22:09
oats_ubuntuyou sure 4g is big enough?22:09
imbezoloats_ubuntu: swap on SSD is better because swapping things from memory to disk and back will be 10x faster on SSD rather than spinning disk22:09
imbezoloats_ubuntu: how much ram do you have?22:09
imbezoloats_ubuntu: i think general rule is to match your ram22:09
imbezoloats_ubuntu: but it's not a hard and fast rule22:09
oats_ubuntuI don't know22:10
oats_ubuntuso the small one is an sds22:10
oats_ubuntussd22:10
oats_ubuntuand the big one, sda is not22:10
oats_ubuntu?22:10
imbezoloats_ubuntu: type "free" on the command line22:10
imbezolright22:10
oats_ubuntuMem:       3609428    2314040    1295388     256696     151072     95130422:10
oats_ubuntuSwap:      3748860          0    374886022:11
imbezolso you have about 4 gigs of memory22:11
imbezolso 4 gigs of swap is probably just right22:11
oats_ubuntuhow did you compute that22:11
imbezolthe first number is in KB22:11
leonichello where the help in spanish? thanks22:12
oats_ubuntuook22:12
k1l_!es | leonic22:12
wafflej0ck_!es | leonic22:12
ubottuleonic: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.22:12
nononooi22:12
imbezoloats_ubuntu: you can also see in that output that you're currently using 0 swap22:13
imbezoloats_ubuntu: so if you're not typically running anymore than you are at this moment.. perhaps performance for your swap doesn't matter22:13
imbezoloats_ubuntu: in which case maybe you choose to leave it on spinning disk and use the SSD space to expand /22:13
oats_ubuntuimbezol22:14
imbezoloats_ubuntu: or use your system for a while and monitor so you have a better idea if you ever hit swap22:14
oats_ubuntuso many options22:14
imbezolpersonal preference22:14
oats_ubuntuI must delegate my reasoning to you22:14
ryan_hello, i am using ubuntu genome, whenever the computer wakes up, the screen is blank grey and nothing, i have to restart, any help? thanks!22:14
imbezollol22:14
oats_ubuntuwhat do you think I should do22:14
imbezoloats_ubuntu: use it for a bit and monitor22:14
imbezoloats_ubuntu: then decide what's best for you22:14
oats_ubuntuhow do I monitor22:14
imbezolfree22:15
oats_ubuntua linux box is like a pet22:15
imbezolor get some fancy graphing of your memory via an app22:15
oats_ubuntuBut what would it even show imbezol, if I have a swap running on the spinning disk22:15
imbezoloats_ubuntu: you can also play around with "top" and learn to sort by the various columns so you can see WHAT is using the memory22:15
stryakrI'm currently running 14.10 and I have the GNome classic DE up, does anyone know why if I hold L_CTRL while in a full screen game like CS:GO, it minimizes?22:16
oats_ubuntuimbezol don't I have more swap space on the spinning disk22:16
imbezoloats_ubuntu: you'll find things like web browsers, big music players, etc eat up a lot of ram22:16
oats_ubuntuim using freenode web chat right now22:16
oats_ubuntubut doesn't ram get freed up after I close ?22:17
imbezolyup22:17
oats_ubuntuok22:17
oats_ubuntuWhy would I decrease swap space with decreasing ram though?22:17
oats_ubuntueven if the ssd is faster, won't I need the greater swap space capacity of m?y spinning disk to compensate22:18
imbezoloats_ubuntu: your system is only configured to use the spinning disk right now22:18
imbezoloats_ubuntu: so you currently have only 4 gigs22:18
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imbezoloats_ubuntu: but the SSD is partitioned with 4 gigs of swap space, that you're not using22:18
imbezoloats_ubuntu: SSD is the best thing you have for performance.. i'm just saying don't waste it22:19
imbezoloats_ubuntu: you probably either want to use it, or retask it for storage22:19
woozyanyone want to help this fellow?22:19
oats_ubuntuwait why only 4 gigs?22:19
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oats_ubuntuimbezol: I thought my big 290 gig one would have more swap space, no?22:20
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Funhey folks22:21
Funmy cam here act weird on skype black screen22:22
FunI can see it in the usb devices list22:22
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imbezoloats_ubuntu: look at the parted -l output22:23
imbezoloats_ubuntu: and the output of swapon -s22:23
oats_ubuntuimbezol: o, I thought it allocates swap space proportionally to the disc space22:26
oats_ubuntuit does ~4 g by default?22:26
imbezoloats_ubuntu: i'm not sure how ubuntu's installer sets a default size, but i generally see a swap about equal to ram size22:27
oats17:26] <oats_ubuntu> imbezol: o, I thought it allocates swap space proportionally to the disc space [17:26] <oats_ubuntu> it does ~4 g by default?22:27
Aresofze4ushello22:28
Aresofze4usanybody here?22:28
Funhi22:28
Aresofze4usHi Fun...Where are you from ?22:28
woozyhey someone want to help me22:28
Aresofze4uswith what22:28
g4vr0chewoozy: Maybe. What's wrong?22:29
jhutchins_wkAresofze4us: This is the Ubuntu technical support channel.  THere are 1734 people here, most of them real.22:29
g4vr0cheI'm real22:29
jhutchins_wk!ask22:29
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:29
g4vr0che(I think)22:29
woozyi divided up my partitions and tried to make one just for /home but i guess when i installed ubuntu it wiped that22:29
Aresofze4us!patiente22:29
Aresofze4us!patience22:29
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/22:29
oatsimbeol?22:30
oatsimbezol'22:30
oatsimbezol22:30
Aresofze4us@jhutchins: thank you22:30
imbezol15:27:03 < imbezol> oats_ubuntu: i'm not sure how ubuntu's installer sets a default size, but i generally see a swap about equal to ram size22:30
woozyi have my whole /home saved on an external harddrive but how do i set it up right22:30
Aresofze4usI'm a newbie user.... just getting around22:30
oatsook22:30
oatsthank you very much imbezol22:30
oatsfor all your help22:30
imbezolnp good luck22:30
jhutchins_wkAresofze4us: If you use the @ tag, it causes nicknames to NOT match so they don't highlight.22:30
oatsare you a software developer or system admin22:30
oatsor linux engineer22:31
imbezoloats: i've been a sysadmin at times.. just been using linux for ~15 years22:31
woozyanyone help with my problem?22:31
oatsook22:31
a0werhow can I determine which bluetooth profiles are supported with the version of ubuntu i have and the given bluetooth dongle?22:31
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jhutchins_wkwoozy: You haven't actually asked anything yet.22:31
oatswell I've been staring at the screen for the most part since 11am22:31
jhutchins_wkwoozy: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?22:31
oats6 hours or so22:32
oatsim off22:32
oatsnice meeting you22:32
imbezolyou too. ttyl22:32
Aresofze4usjhutchins_wk: okay...sorry22:32
Fun:)22:32
Funany idea how to fix webcam issue?22:32
Fun:d22:32
jhutchins_wk!webcam22:32
ubottuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras22:32
imbezolFun: start by trying a different app to see if the webcam works there22:32
Funty22:32
Funimbezol: it does however black and white22:33
Fun:)22:33
jhutchins_wkFun: cheese is good for testing.22:33
woozyso i followed this instructions and shrunk one partition and made a new one22:33
imbezolFun: likely something in the setup of skype then22:33
Funcheese?22:33
jhutchins_wkFun: Displays the camera output.22:33
jhutchins_wkFun: Software, not food.22:33
Aresofze4uscan i put ubuntu or other distro on my android device?22:33
Funu got guvcview22:34
FunI got22:34
Funok going to check more22:34
Aresofze4usI have an android tabled.22:34
woozyi tried to designate the new one as my /home so that it isnt affected in updates and switching os, but it didnt work22:34
k1l_Aresofze4us: for ubuntu see #ubuntu-touch but mind to read the topic there22:34
Aresofze4ushmm,the topic is ubuntu?22:34
imbezolwoozy: do you currently have a separate /home in your internal drive? or is it just on your / mount?22:34
Aresofze4usoh22:35
jhutchins_wkAresofze4us: Fairly advanced project. http://www.ubuntu.com/phone22:35
jhutchins_wkwoozy: So what is it that you want to do now?22:35
imbezolwoozy: you can check by typing "mount" or "df -h"22:35
woozywell i just installed ubuntu so it has the default for that. i have my previous /home saved on an external22:35
k1l_Aresofze4us: the topic of a irc channel. you see it when entering a channel or type "/topic"22:35
jhutchins_wkwoozy: You can mount that at /home22:36
jhutchins_wkwoozy: We appreciate the background info, but what do you actyually want?22:36
woozyjhutchins_wk: i want to make /home its own partition like /dev/sda3 so it isnt affected in os switches and things22:36
imbezolwoozy: definitely possible but you're going to have to decide if you want to merge what's in /home now, or just throw away what's in /home22:36
imbezolwoozy: if you throw it away you'd need to be mindful that you could still login22:37
woozyjust throw it away, nothing is in it, i just wiped when installing ubuntu22:37
imbezolwoozy: as in, you wouldn't want to delete your user's homedir and not have something in place22:37
Aresofze4usJust found out this IRC thingy. Knew it before when i was a gamer... cod4...but first time experiencing this as an adult really a nice tuch to the whole internet thingy :P but anyways since the topic is ubuntu and i really got no clues about it ill head off to some researching22:37
Aresofze4usgot to read some linux books!22:37
Aresofze4usanways good luck to you people22:38
Aresofze4usand have a good night/day :)22:38
imbezolwoozy: you could either do it all off a usb stick or do some careful manouevering in your current system22:38
woozyimbezol: well first id like to un-encrypt the thing i did at the beginning of install that makes me put in password every time i start up computer22:38
imbezolwoozy: like you could create a new user temporarily with /username as their homedir and give them sudo access22:38
imbezolwoozy: or you could temporary set a root password so that if you mess up you can still login22:38
woozyimbezol: what ever you think would be easier and faster22:39
woozyi think we would have to deal with the encryption thing first22:39
imbezolwoozy: but basically you want to move /home to /home.bak, make a new /home directory, and create an entry in /etc/fstab to mount your external drive there22:39
woozyimbezol: well i want to take the stuff off the external drive and put it back onto my computer in its own seperate partition from my boot22:39
imbezolwoozy: sounds like fun. i'd take it one step at a time. fix any booting issues first22:40
imbezolwoozy: ah. you don't want to keep the external drive all the time?22:40
woozyno i just use it to back up and store other things on22:40
woozywhy don't we deal with the encryption part first22:40
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imbezolwoozy: process might look something like mount /external/drive ; mv /home /home.bak, cp -av /external/drive/home /22:41
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woozyand that would replace my /home now with the /home on the drive22:41
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imbezolyup, but still within the / partition. if you want a separate partition that's another whole ball of wax22:42
woozywell i think i originally tried to go into that ball of wax22:42
woozyi read about it online and figured itd be good to keep it seperate from my boot partition, but when installing ubuntu i accidentally wiped it22:43
imbezolso you were saying you have a bunch of errors booting up?22:43
woozynot really errors but when installing ubuntu i put in the encryption thing. do you know what i mean?22:43
imbezolwoozy: get them into a pastebin so we can see22:44
woozyohh you are pushing your luck no buddy. they are when the ubuntu sign is on the screen so i cant really highlight or anything22:44
imbezolwoozy: do they show up when you type dmesg? if not have a look at the logs in /var/log22:45
woozyits like they encrypted the drive for security so when you start up you have to enter the password you set up22:45
woozythen it boots and then mine says the one partition was never created. something like LVM_swap_crypt22:46
anarkhosnvidia_304 is now activated but not in use... should i then open xorg.conf, go to the device section and substitute "nvidia_304" for "default device" in the area after "Identifier"?22:47
imbezolwoozy: ok. i'm not overly familiar with the encrypted bootup process so without logs i can't really give much advice22:48
imbezolperhaps someone eles can22:48
woozyimbezol: i have to eat supper so i will be back in 20 minutes, i looked at the logs so i can send the needed ones after i eat. Thanks for the help22:48
imbezolnp. gl22:48
GumaI was wondering if anyone know how to add mac_addr kernel parameter. I did dd img to sd card form my ARM board22:49
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silverlionhave a good one everybody23:02
silverlionjust a quick question: Anyone an idea when the security update for adobe flashplayer (flashplayer-installer) will be available in the ubuntu repositories?23:03
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hexafractionHi, is there a way to allow a specific user to create a symlink in /dev at any time they want?23:15
hexafractionIf it helps, it is always the same link (not necessarily the same target). The link is being created as a result of running socat and must exist in that specific location.23:16
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woozyimbezol: hey im back and making a pastebin rn. what log do you want?23:19
* ki7rw had to roll back his video card driver to the nouveau video driver to get my display back on ubuntu - don't know what happened to the other video driver (nvidia-340) - it just stopped working - re-installing the driver worked once and then didn't work on the next boot - re-installing ubuntu 14.04 didn't help either - so now i'm running on the nouveau driver with the lower screen resolution23:19
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REdOGI installed a webapp and configued it in apache2 how do I point apache so that www.myhost.com goes to the proper page at www.myhost.com/app/ instead of www.myhost.com/index.html ?23:21
squintyki7rw: had to do the same on a nvidia video based box here after kernel update. seen quite a few similar cases here over the last while.  you can just reinstall the nvidia drivers again with Additional Drivers23:21
squintyki7rw: btw, to reinstall the nvidia drivers, I also had to use the "nomodeset" kernel parameter when booting up before the nvidia driver took.23:22
mytrueheroHello - I'm not able to get a script (/etc/init.d/unicorn) to start on boot; I've run "sudo update-rc.d unicorn defaults", and the script works when I run it manually ("/etc/init.d/unicorn start"), but if I reboot, the service isn't running. How can I debug?23:23
ki7rwi'll have to keep that in mind23:23
woozyImbezol: hey you there?23:24
NegativeFlare!xmir23:25
ubottuXMir is an X server that runs on top of Mir. It permits applications that know how to speak the X protocol but don't know how to speak to Mir (ie, approximately all of them at present) to run in a Mir-based environment. (http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/26254.html)23:25
m3zn4haHello! I have some conflicts http://textuploader.com/60it23:26
woozyalright well i am in need of some help23:29
hexafractionHi, how can I create a persistent file living in /dev that a specific user can overwrite with a symlink?23:30
kruxREdOG: i'm guessing change your root directory in your apache2.conf file to point to that directory23:30
REdOGkrux: it's a scriptalias23:31
REdOGand in ubuntu that's in /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default.conf23:32
woozyhey can someone help with me with my ubuntu installation booting and /home23:33
REdOGand something tells me it's dangerous to make a cgi-bin documentroot23:34
REdOGbut maybe im just paranoid23:34
kruxyeah not sure :).. look at this see if it helps..23:35
kruxhttp://code.tutsplus.com/articles/apache-aliasing-and-redirection--net-2860623:35
woozyanyone available to help with encryption booting and /home23:36
kruxhttp://www.thesitewizard.com/archive/addcgitoapache.shtml << actually this one talks about what your trying to do23:37
vlt_!anyone | woozy23:38
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woozyok vlt? sorry im new to irc chat23:39
cookiehi i am cookie23:40
bekksomnomnom.23:40
cookiepls dont eat me23:40
cookie:(23:40
vltwoozy: Read /topic and then ask a real question ;-)23:41
woozySo i installed ubuntu today over my previous linux os and did some things i dont want anymore. First off, I set up the drive to be encrypted so every boot i must enter my password than it will boot23:42
woozyI would like to get rid of this encryption process and such23:43
EriC^^woozy: do you have another hdd?23:43
woozyEriC^^: what do you mean?23:44
vltwoozy: I’d advise against NOT encrypting but anyway ... you can change it back.23:44
EriC^^another hard disk, ext usb or something23:44
woozyvlt: yeah id prefer to get rid of it.. just complicating things23:44
LurkAshFlakeFresh install last version of ubutun it's written on my .iso that it is amd64 my processor is intel, is there a problem?23:45
vltwoozy: You don't need a second hard drive if you have enough space for cloning your whole system left.23:45
woozyeric^^: yes i do23:45
EriC^^woozy: nevermind, just backup and fresh install again23:45
EriC^^if it's a fresh install who cares..23:45
k1l_LurkAshFlake: the patent for 64bit is from amd, but intel uses the same. so amd64 is for all 64bit cpus23:45
woozyvlt: so how do i get rid of it. it was an option when installing so i'd think there wuld be a way to get rid of it without reinstalling23:46
EriC^^woozy: you have to decrypt it and copy all the data somewhere else, recreate the partition and copy it back23:46
EriC^^woozy: not worth it..23:46
vltwoozy: Yes, but only if you copy your whole system to an unencrypted block device.23:46
Bashing-omLurkAshFlake: No, not a problem . Hold over as AMD did the 64 bit 1st . It is also for Intel .23:46
SteinerUUm, I've got a bit of an Ubuntu-related startup problem. Could I get some help here?23:46
woozyyeah that isnt worth it. well that leads to the second thing i wanted to fix since i have to reinstall23:47
woozyi read about it and want to put my /home on its own seperate partition so when i install different os or update it isnt affected23:47
woozyvlt:^^23:48
squinty!ask | SteinerU23:48
ubottuSteinerU: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:48
SteinerUThank you, I just wanted to be sure.23:49
EriC^^woozy: choose Something else in the installer, and make a separate /home partition23:50
vltwoozy: This is what _I_ would do: Boot from CD or USB, open the crypted partition, shrink the file system, shrink the crypt volume, create two new partitions or LVM volumes, rsync / to one, /home to the other ...23:50
woozyhow would i go about making the seperate /home partition ?23:50
woozyand if i have my previous/home on an ext hd, could i get it back on to there?23:51
vltwoozy: These are too many different tasks to handle at once for someone a bit inexperienced IMHO.23:52
EriC^^woozy: erase all partitions, make one for "/" ext4 about 20-30gb if you have a lot of space, make another ext4 mounted /home with the rest of the space23:52
EriC^^woozy: you can make a swap partition after creating "/" , if you want to hibernate, then use the rest for /home23:53
EriC^^( it should be at least the size of your ram )23:53
woozyyeah the swap should be about the size of ram.23:53
woozyshould the root be bigger if i run a vm and some bigger programs?23:53
EriC^^they'll be in your home dir23:54
EriC^^the bigger programs wont though23:54
EriC^^20-30gb is ok i guess23:54
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woozywell most of the bigger programs are windows based in the vm23:54
EriC^^oh ok23:54
SteinerUI was having some errors with windows, and needed to install it. Unfortunately, the Windows installer doesn't like to play nice with Ubuntu partitions. So I wiped everything completely backed up my important files on an external hard drive, and reinstalled Windows 7 and verified it. Fine. Then I installed Ubuntu studio, which I'm trying to use for video production stuff.  At first it was just detecting the windows partition as unallo23:55
SteinerUcated space, then I managed to tinker with it and get the partitions visible, shrink the windows 7 partition and install Ubuntu Studio. Despite all that going smoothly and this showing up in Gparted when I run it from a live CD (http://oi57.tinypic.com/dxk009.jpg) I get the "Reboot and select proper Boot Device" on startup23:55
woozyalright eric im thinking i got this.23:56
woozyso 3 partitions: /    /home and /swap23:56
EriC^^woozy: yeah23:57
EriC^^SteinerU: that's kind of odd23:57
EriC^^are you in the live usb right now?23:58
woozywould i be able to boot into the same usb i used to install the first time? and then would i move the /home files from ext-hd to /home partition on computer after new install?23:58
EriC^^did you create the fat32 partition?23:58
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SteinerUYes EriC^^23:58
SteinerUAlso... my CD drive died last night, so I created a live CD via USB drive with UNetbootin23:59
SteinerUWhich is what I'm using23:59
not_a_tigerI expanded my root partition using gparted-live. To do so I had to delete and remake my swap parition. How do I check to see if the swap is active?23:59
EriC^^woozy: yeah, backup the files then restore them after you install23:59
EriC^^not_a_tiger: free -m23:59
EriC^^it probably isn't though23:59
EriC^^did you modify fstab?23:59

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