[00:00] <k1l_> ceed^: the coders said it will not come back on unity7. because its hardcoded and they are coding on the newer unity8 now.
[00:01] <ceed^> k1l_, Oh well. I like Unity but have tried to get used to having it on the left and can't. I think I'll go MATE for now.
[00:01] <ki7rw> knoppix Xorg.0.log has a line that says "no devices detected"
[00:05] <stevecam> do i need to reinstall Ubuntu when I get my new computer, going from a 2nd Gen i7 with a h81 motherboard to a i7 4th gen with a z97
[00:05] <daftykins> stevecam: what graphics do you use in each? the on-die intel?
[00:05] <stevecam> i plan on it
[00:06] <daftykins> stevecam: so i'd take a backup anyway, as is always wise, then just drop the drive in and see what happens :D
[00:06] <k1l_> stevecam: it should work.
[00:06] <stevecam> ;-) ok
[00:06] <daftykins> actually what version are you on there?
[00:06] <daftykins> if 14.04+ i'd say that should be no problem at all
[00:06] <stevecam> 14.10
[00:08] <daftykins> mmm, newer kernel will help then
[00:08] <daftykins> yep just see how it runs :)
[00:09] <daftykins> stevecam: you can always fault-test with live sessions on a flash drive of course, too. for example if audio wasn't working on your install
[00:13] <ki7rw> k1l_, i suppose if my display died i wouldn't get the splash screen at bootup - all i get is a black screen when i should be getting the purple login screen
[00:13] <k1l_> k1l_: does bios work?
[00:24] <HowardTheDuck> /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet or not present
[00:24] <HowardTheDuck> wshats that mean
[00:24] <EriC^^> it means the encrypted swap wasn't decrypted maybe
[00:25] <ki7rw> all of a sudden i can't get an screen - even knoppix fails to bring up a screen - do i have a hardware or software problem? ubuntu 14.04 64 bit nvidia chip (dell xps l502x)
[00:25]  * ki7rw is currently running a memory test
[00:26]  * ki7rw does get a boot splash screen but the screen goes black when the login screen is suppose to show up
[00:28] <Bashing-om> ki7rw: Does a liveDVD boot ?
[00:36] <Guest12011> i cant write to HFS no matter what i do? i tried sudo mount -t hfsplus -o remount,force,rw /mount/point and also tried to disable journaling
[00:37] <HowardTheDuck> how do i fix /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet or not present
[00:37] <EriC^^> HowardTheDuck: check /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab
[00:38] <Ahmuck> where does ubuntu put virtualbox additions cd ?
[00:38] <EriC^^> Ahmuck: did you insert it using virtualbox?
[00:38] <EriC^^> !find guest-additions
[00:39] <HowardTheDuck> i did i dont know what to type on them tho
[00:39] <Ahmuck> i've got it installed
[00:39] <EriC^^> Ahmuck: what do you mean?
[00:39] <Ahmuck> i   virtualbox-guest-additions-iso  - guest additions iso image for VirtualBox
[00:39] <EriC^^> HowardTheDuck: see if they check out, use sudo blkid to get the uuid's
[00:39] <Ahmuck> how do i use it in virtualbox
[00:40] <EriC^^> you can share files between the host & guest etc. etc.
[00:41] <Ahmuck> hrm, ok, that is not my problem
[00:41] <Ahmuck> can't get the screen over 640x480
[00:41] <EriC^^> Ahmuck: modify /etc/default/grub
[00:41] <daftykins> Ahmuck: is this kodibuntu in a VM?
[00:42] <EriC^^> Ahmuck: add one of these numbers as vga=<number> after quiet splash
[00:42] <EriC^^> and set GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep
[00:42] <EriC^^> http://pierre.baudu.in/other/grub.vga.modes.html
[00:43] <EriC^^> numbers are there ^^
[00:43] <EriC^^> then sudo update-grub, try to restart
[00:43] <Ahmuck> ok.  kodibuntu does this re-sizing by default.  is this a distro specific thing?
[00:43]  * Ahmuck using lubuntu
[00:44] <Ahmuck> oh, hi daftykins
[00:44] <Ahmuck> no, not kodibuntu anymore, want to try plex
[00:44] <daftykins> fresh lubuntu install? ah ok
[00:44] <daftykins> was just checking it wasn't the need to purge nvidia* , no worries
[00:44] <Ahmuck> daftykins, had a great conversation this afternoon with a fellow tech about kodi, it's history, it's design and operation.
[00:45] <daftykins> neat!
[00:45] <HowardTheDuck> EriC^^,  the uuids do not match blkid and crypttab
[00:45] <Ahmuck> daftykins, actually i checked that the otherday, does not appear the nvidia drivers were installed by default
[00:45] <HowardTheDuck> do i replace the uuid= and what's ever with whats in blkid
[00:45] <daftykins> Ahmuck: they are in kodibuntu land i think, can't remember now from my VM. xbmcbuntu they definitely were
[00:46] <Ahmuck> so lubuntu does not do them by default?  i'm wondering why kodibuntu would be configured that way by default and lubuntu wouldn't.  not a standard?
[00:47] <Ahmuck> kodibuntu autosized by default.  this is the same behavior i remember 4-5 years ago.
[00:48] <xpro256> does someone know how can i install mac os x fonts on ubuntu?
[00:49] <Ahmuck> nm, vbox additions fixed it.  i was thinking it would
[00:49] <Ahmuck> i needed to reboot the vm
[00:50] <xpro256> hi ubottu
[00:52] <daftykins> Ahmuck: *buntu can't include proprietary drivers as default because it goes against the 'free software' approach, the XBMC and Kodi derivatives include them for the sake of making the live sessions work on more hardware out of the box
[00:54] <sfranken> daftykins: True, but didn't it have a easy-peasy driver isntall thing since forever now?
[00:54] <sfranken> s/isntall/install
[00:55] <k1l_> sfranken: ubuntu? look into the updates&software in the system settings. there on the last tab you can install the prop. drivers from the ubuntu repo
[00:55] <daftykins> sfranken: most don't work without full reboots that won't be useful on a live session
[00:55] <sfranken> I know where it is
[00:56] <sfranken> Ah, yeah, a live session is a different beast alltogether
[00:56] <daftykins> anywho, i think i am speaking of modified spins that aren't really supported here, so i shall have to hush :D
[00:57] <jimmyd> googlr
[01:00] <gebbione> any reasons why a specific folder just wont list files through "Files" or Nemo ? i have no problems in bash / ls
[01:00] <sfranken> Hidden files? User ownership?
[01:01] <W6NZX> hey guys easy question I should know. other than my .zshrc is there another "generic" dotfile I can create that will execute commands when logging into the shell?
[01:01] <sfranken> W6NZX: .login probably
[01:02] <sfranken> I guess
[01:03] <W6NZX> trying to have it load a screensaver counter.
[01:03] <W6NZX> i'll try .login
[01:04] <sfranken> Not sure anymore though
[01:04] <gebbione> sfranken, Nemo and Files actually hang infinitely ... it is not that i cannot see the files ... the window is hanging in grey
[01:04] <sfranken> gebbione: That sounds like a GUI/driver issue to me
[01:04] <sfranken> e.g. not repsonding
[01:05] <gebbione> yes
[01:05] <sfranken> Are you doing anything "Crazy"? Like opening a 4GB preview of a MKV file? :P
[01:05] <gebbione> but it is only with a specific folder
[01:05] <sfranken> hmmm
[01:05] <sfranken> Any *huge* hidden files?
[01:05] <fxmulder> whats the best way to do a one time boot to text mode?
[01:05] <gebbione> no hidden files ... there is a 2.7gb video being downloaded
[01:05] <gebbione> but usually that is not a problem
[01:05] <sfranken> That might be it
[01:06] <gebbione> also no preview ... view mode is list by default
[01:06] <sfranken> No recursive symlinks?
[01:06] <sfranken> I had that once
[01:06] <gebbione> no
[01:06] <sfranken> Then I'm stumped
[01:06] <gebbione> no recursive
[01:07] <gebbione> i can eog the images in the folder
[01:07] <gebbione> ls in bash etc
[01:07] <gebbione> but nothing on the windows
[01:07] <sfranken> hmm
[01:07] <sfranken> What does "$ top -u <your username here>" tell you?
[01:08] <k1l_> gebbione: what folder is it?
[01:08] <gebbione> k1l_, it is just a folder like many others with 5 images and a video file .... running on a SATA drive
[01:09] <sfranken> gebbione: the drive is still active?
[01:09] <sfranken> Just making sure :p
[01:09] <gebbione> sfranken, i can access other folders
[01:09] <k1l_> gebbione: just a folder under /home ? is it specific to the location? do the same files work somewhere else?
[01:10] <gebbione> k1l_, it is a folder under /media/DriveName/parent/StuckFolder
[01:10] <gebbione> and /media/DriveName/parent/anyotherFolder works
[01:10] <k1l_> so its a external hdd?
[01:11] <gebbione> internal
[01:11] <k1l_> what FS?
[01:11] <k1l_> filesystem that is. see "mount" if you are not sure
[01:12] <gebbione> ntfs
[01:12] <gebbione> i just run sudo lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,SIZE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL
[01:13] <gebbione> mhhh somehow it looks like my whole memory is being used
[01:13] <tempoe> /list 'hacker'
[01:14] <sfranken> gebbione: What happens when you switch from Grid to List view? If not already on list view
[01:14] <MannyLNJ> Hello. Here is mky situatioon. I have access to an Toshiba Satelitte laptop with a broken LCD. Only the right side of the screen works, I want to turn this into a media and print server using ubunto. I am not good with command lines so i prefer a GUI, How would I access it over the network from a windows sytem eiother 7 or 8
[01:14] <Bashing-om> fxmulder: One time text boot: boot to the grub menu, 'e' key for edit mode .. arrow down the the "linux" line and replace "quiet splash" with the term text . key combo ctl+x to continur the boot process to TTY1 .
[01:14] <sfranken> MannyLNJ: Can't do that with a *broken* screen
[01:15] <gebbione> sfranken, i am on list view ... btw this is what top shows http://paste.ubuntu.com/9874759/
[01:15] <sfranken> MannyLNJ: unless it has a VGA/DVI/HDMI port, just hook it up to a extern display
[01:15] <k1l_> MannyLNJ: attach an external monitor
[01:15] <MannyLNJ> unable to attach an external monitor. No HDMI port and the VGA port has glue in the holes.
[01:16] <gebbione> glue in the holes is brilliant
[01:16] <sfranken> MannyLNJ: lol nice
[01:16] <MannyLNJ> The right side of the screen works, Left bottom has the damage
[01:17] <gebbione> MannyLNJ,  replacing a screen might not be so complicated if worth it for the laptop
[01:17] <sfranken> MannyLNJ: Time to learn the CLI ;)
[01:18] <gebbione> btw sfranken does my top give you any clues?
[01:18] <sfranken> MannyLNJ: Just kidding, it would help though. AFAIK there's no way to do the install "remote", unless you can install a VNC server
[01:18] <sfranken> Sorry gebbione, can you resend the link? I lost it :$
[01:18] <gebbione> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9874759/
[01:18] <MannyLNJ> gebbione: I don't have cash for a new screen. sfranken I'm building the USB key now I'm hoping to be able to see enough to answer the prompts.
[01:19] <MannyLNJ> But once installed will I be able to get a GUI remotely?
[01:19] <sfranken> MannyLNJ: NO
[01:19] <sfranken> *No
[01:19] <sfranken> MannyLNJ: Install -> Login -> Install remote tools, enable access
[01:19] <sfranken> MannyLNJ: then you'll be able to graphically login remotely
[01:19] <MannyLNJ> sfranken: Thanks. I hope I will be able to get that far on this screen.
[01:20] <sfranken> gebbione: Top doesn't look weird to me, nothing really out of whack
[01:20] <sfranken> Except the 100% CPU usage for Nautilus
[01:20] <gebbione> the fact it is using all my ram sounds crazy
[01:21] <sfranken> gebbione: Tried killing Nautilus?
[01:22] <sfranken> MannyLNJ: No problems. Good luck!
[01:22] <gebbione> sfranken, i just did, i am trying to open the folder with Nemo and shoots to 100% CPU usage
[01:22] <sfranken> gebbione: Does Nemo create thumbnails of images automatically? That *might* be an issue here
[01:23] <gebbione> i guess it is very similar to Files
[01:23] <gebbione> i just use nemo cause Files has a weird problem with resizing columns
[01:24] <sfranken> gebbione: Does Nemo have a "Preview" option in the options? Like Files does
[01:24] <sfranken> If so, does that have a "Show thumbnails" option?
[01:26] <gebbione> it is weird
[01:26] <gebbione> when it goes to this folder it switches to gallery view
[01:26] <gebbione> and then i guess it gets stuck previewing
[01:26] <gebbione> but my default is list viewing :(
[01:26] <sfranken> gebbione: That's why I advised turning the previewing off ;)
[01:28] <gebbione> now i need to figure where to disable it from
[01:28] <sfranken> gebbione: Just out of curiosity.. what does "$ find <HDD drive> | wc -l
[01:28] <sfranken> " tell you?
[01:29] <stevecam> hey, i cant click on anything, my mouse is working, my keyboard is working, i dont want to reset, is there any suggestions?
[01:30] <sfranken> stevecam: Open a terminal or drop to another TTY (Control + Alt + F3 for example), login and type: "sudo pkill -u $(whoami)"
[01:30] <sfranken> stevecam: Without the " "
[01:31] <sfranken> It'll kill your processes and make it so you'll login again
[01:31] <stevecam> thanks but i have a process in a terminal i dont want to finish because its half way through a 4-hour job
[01:32] <sfranken> stevecam: That's probably the reason your mouse is unresponsive in the GUI
[01:32] <EriC^^> stevecam: you could try setsid unity, but under your own risk
[01:32] <sfranken> stevecam: Wait it out I'm afrai
[01:33] <gebbione> sfranken, disabling preview does not seam to make a difference
[01:33] <gebbione> fed up
[01:33] <stevecam> might just do that, something has stalled
[01:33] <gebbione> i ll use the folder from the shell :/
[01:33] <stevecam> just funny how its just mouse-clicking that has stopped working
[01:34] <OerHeks> stevecam, so you have a cpu-extensive job, and your system is not reacting as you want it to?
[01:34] <sfranken> stevecam: Tried reconnecting your mouse? That sometimes fixes my mouse-related issues
[01:34] <OerHeks> just be patient
[01:34] <stevecam> OerHeks, just copying a large file, sfranken yes
[01:34] <sfranken> gebbione: Weird.. Again, out of curiosity: What happens when you run "$ find <folder> | wc -l" from the terminal? I'm wondering how many items are in there
[01:35] <sfranken> stevecam: Ubuntu can get unresponsive when copying large files that takes forever
[01:35] <gebbione> sfranken,  still searching
[01:35] <sfranken> stevecam: be patient is the best advice I can give you
[01:35] <gebbione> i did it from /media
[01:35] <sfranken> gebbione: That's overkill, you should try from the HDD. Otherwise it'll give an answer which is useless
[01:36] <stevecam> patience was plan-b
[01:36] <sfranken> stevecam: plan-b just became plan-a by the looks of things?
[01:37] <stevecam> still plan a, plan be was only a draft
[01:37] <sfranken> stevecam: You *could* try "renice", but on your own risk!!!!!!111!!
[01:38] <gebbione> sfranken, it gives me 7
[01:38] <sfranken> gebbione: hmm... weird, I'd expect it to be in the thousands
[01:38] <sfranken> gebbione: How *big* are those files?
[01:38] <stevecam> 250gb
[01:38] <stevecam> oh whoops
[01:39] <sfranken> stevecam: 250GB/4 hours? That's 62.5GB/hour
[01:39] <sfranken> That's not a fast drive
[01:39] <gebbione> sfranken, biggest is 2774666689
[01:39] <MannyLNJ> Hello again. I have the flash drive made and booted but I can't see the menu fully. Is there a site that shows all the options screen by screen or can someone tell me what options to choose to start the install?
[01:39] <sfranken> gebbione: I'm guessing that's bytes..
[01:39] <sfranken> MannyLNJ: 2nd option is install
[01:39] <sfranken> MannyLNJ: 1st is live image
[01:39] <gebbione> yes ... is is over 2.5 gb
[01:40] <MannyLNJ> sfranken: Thanks. I'l;l choose option 2 and go from there
[01:40] <sfranken> gebbione: 2.5 GB is something else than 2.5 bytes. But thanks for the info. That could be your issue.. a 2.5 GB file takes a long time to preview
[01:40] <stevecam> it's over USB, friend wanted me to backup his disks to a portable hard drive, tried putting the portable hard drive in my computer and copying it that way..... but the external reader does something funny with the data that ubuntu doesnt recognise
[01:40] <sfranken> MannyLNJ: No probs, good luck with the install
[01:40] <gebbione> sfranken, never had the problem before with similar ones
[01:41] <sfranken> gebbione: weird
[01:41] <sfranken> stevecam: Ah. USB is touch-or-go... You could try tarring it first, then copying it
[01:41] <sfranken> stevecam: IDK how much that'd save you though
[01:42] <gebbione> sfranken, anyway thanks for the help ... i ll be back if i feel like getting over this
[01:42] <stevecam> it works fine, just lost my mouse clicks :-(
[01:42] <sfranken> gebbione: No problems. Good luck!
[01:42] <sfranken> stevecam: Ah, I got carried away again lol
[01:43] <sfranken> stevecam: Anyway, renice. But on your own head be it bla bla disclaimer
[01:43] <stevecam> renice changes priorities doesnt it?
[01:43] <sfranken> stevecam: Yeah
[01:44] <stevecam> i dont think its that sort of issue, the service for the mouse has became faulty, the reswt of the machine is responsive, just no mouse clicks
[01:45] <sfranken> stevecam: Your 'cp' is getting a higher priority over your GUI, so a "renice" *should* (in theory) jumble it back the way it was
[01:45] <sfranken> stevecam: since that's what's causing your mouse shenanigans
[01:46] <dopesmoker> install windows
[01:46] <MannyLNJ> sfranken: is there a way to open a shell to view what IP the laptop is assigned during the install so I can reserve the same IP in my router?
[01:46] <stevecam> what am i renicing? i did some other process on the disk in a VM, got a big sluggish
[01:46] <Jef91> How do I specify in a control file to always install the i386 version of a package? Even if the system is amd64
[01:46] <stevecam> closed the VM and my clicks disappeared
[01:46] <sfranken> MannyLNJ: Control + Alt + T
[01:47] <sfranken> Jef91: apt-get install "package:i386" I believe
[01:47] <sfranken> stevecam: Ah.. you'r running a VM as well? hmm... renice unity/nautilus?
[01:47] <MannyLNJ> sfranken: nothing. I'll have to wait for install to finish
[01:47] <sfranken> stevecam: Now I'm not so sure anymore if it's a *wise plan*
[01:47] <Jef91> sfranken, no - when creating a package
[01:47] <sfranken> MannyLNJ: oh right, you're installing... Control + Alt + F2
[01:48] <Jef91> not when installing something from the repos
[01:48] <sfranken> Jef91: No idea then, sorry
[01:48] <sfranken> MannyLNJ: You'll be dropped to a terminal, you can get back with Control + Alt + F1 or Control + Alt + F7
[01:49] <gtuckerkellogg_> having the strangest experience with update-manager in my current 14.04 desktop
[01:49] <MannyLNJ> Thanks, i see the IP but the HW address is covered by the crack. I see the IP is not showsing assigned in the router yet so I can't pull it from that screen. I'll have to wait for the install to finish
[01:49] <stevecam> ahh, why didnt i think of this, just reloaded unity
[01:51] <sfranken> MannyLNJ: "$ ifconfig | grep HWaddr"
[01:51] <MannyLNJ> got it! ifconfig wlan0 showed me what I need in a spot I could read it!
[01:51] <gtuckerkellogg_> update-manager appears  to run without complaint, but the GUI is only the "Software Updater" menu bar; the actual GUI window is nowhere to be seen
[01:51] <sfranken> MannyLNJ: Nice!
[01:53] <MannyLNJ> sfranken: I'm continuing to watch the install.
[01:57] <gtuckerkellogg_> This is the *entire* update-manager window: http://i.imgur.com/TGfbuRM.png
[02:00] <bcgrown> My PC hangs during boot (after grub menu) with a blinking cursor. Same thing happens if I try to boot from a live  CD. what happened?? It was working fine yesterday... It's Xubuntu 14.04
[02:03] <Soamy> Hello does anyone know how to mount a partition in dracut emergency mode?
[02:05] <nirv> Hello, can anyone advice me: I use Ubuntu 14.10 64Bit, should I manually update kernel to 3.18? Why ubuntu-updater doesn't update kernel, are there any cautions?
[02:06] <sfranken> nirv: Usually a kernel update is more of an issue than it's worth
[02:06] <sfranken> nirv: Any reason you *need* 3.18?
[02:07] <marcelino671> Hello, I'm new in ubuntu, I have a notebook with 2.2Gh x3 and 4gb, but firefox use 25% of the processor and 15% of memory, with only 1 tab WTF
[02:07] <marcelino671> Chrome use less, but stay high
[02:07] <nirv> sfranken, you mean I might face some issues? I have some random system freezes caused by, I believe, Flash or Intel graphics.
[02:07] <sfranken> marcelino671: And what are you doing? How many extensions do you have?
[02:08] <sfranken> nirv: Updating a kernrel is only needed if you have *specific hardware* that's not otherwise supported
[02:08] <sfranken> nirv: Systemfreezes caused by Flash and/or Intel graphics won't go away with a newer kernel
[02:08] <marcelino671> sfranken: in firefox I only have Adblock, firebug and NoScript
[02:08] <sfranken> nirv: Are you running the Intel drivers?
[02:08] <nirv> sfranken, so kernel update won't fix any Intel/Flash-related issues?
[02:08] <sfranken> marcelino671: Adblock is a memoryhog ;0
[02:08] <nirv> sfranken, got it.
[02:09] <marcelino671> sfranken: I go test disabling it
[02:09] <sfranken> nirv: If you're running the close source Intel drive: remove that and use the built in (kernel) driver
[02:09] <sfranken> nirv: That's what I'm doing on my system76 laptop, works like a charm
[02:09] <sfranken> nirv: (and faster as well, added bonus!)
[02:09] <nirv> sfranken, yep, I've installed latest Intel Graphics Installer via hooked by distr name in /etc/lsb-release
[02:10] <sfranken> nirv: Any reason? 99/100 times you don't need the Intel driver
[02:10] <sfranken> nirv: Since Intel supplies the kernel with a driver of it's own.. It's edgecases where you need it though
[02:10] <sfranken> nirv: so your mileage may vary
[02:11] <nirv> sfranken, I don't though about it. What are the reason I might consider for Intel driver then?
[02:11] <nirv> sfranken, I didn't knew generic kernel driver provides same quality as Intel's one.
[02:12] <sfranken> nirv: the only thing the intel closed driver sometimes does is hardwaredecoding of videos
[02:12] <sfranken> nirv: But that's the only thing I can find
[02:13] <nirv> sfranken, hm ok, I'll try to remove Intel driver then. Should I just find "intel" in Synaptics and "Mark for removal"? Sorry I am just a beginner with linux.
[02:13] <sfranken> nirv: Synaptics?? Wow, that's old. You mean the Software center?
[02:13] <sfranken> nirv: and idk, I never used the Intel closed driver
[02:14] <OerHeks> synaptic is alive and working great
[02:14] <sfranken> :)
[02:14] <nirv> sfranken, I use Synaptic time from time since it shows ALL software I install, e.g. I can't fine nearly half of 3d-party apps I install via .deb's.
[02:14] <nirv> sfranken, ok thank you.
[02:15] <lenovo> hello everybody
[02:15] <sfranken> lenovo: Hey
[02:15] <lenovo> i am new whit this
[02:15] <sfranken> Welcome to the club then
[02:16] <lenovo> Tnx
[02:16] <lenovo> beautiful distro
[02:17] <sfranken> yup
[02:17] <sfranken> easy to use as well
[02:17] <lenovo> yea because of that i use it :D
[02:17] <sfranken> (even though I like a pure Gnome environment better, hence I use Ubuntu Gnome, Arch or Debian)
[02:17] <marcelino671> is posible to run photoshop with wine?
[02:17] <sfranken> marcelino671: Possible: perhaps, depends on the PS version
[02:18] <sfranken> But I wouldn't do it.. it's slow
[02:18] <divbyz0> anyone using .net with wine? i tried #winehq its dead
[02:18] <marcelino671> sfranken: CC version?
[02:18] <lenovo> you have another program like photoshop
[02:18] <OerHeks> marcelino671, check the wineHQ database
[02:18] <bazhang> !appdb | marcelino671
[02:18] <divbyz0> hi, i'm trying to install ms .net 4. through winefile and playonlinux I get error HRESULT 0x8007064f. i thought maybe i had to run as root but when i try sudo wine dotnetfile.exe it says you are not owner of .wine. ideas?
[02:18] <bazhang> divbyz0, /join #winehq after checking the appdb
[02:19] <bazhang> marcelino671, as well ^
[02:19] <sfranken> marcelino671: CC version won't really work I guess
[02:19] <sfranken> marcelino671: Tried GIMP yet? :P
[02:19] <divbyz0> bazhang, as previously stated, i have already and still am trying #winehq. what's the appdb?
[02:19] <SchrodingersScat> !winehq
[02:19] <SchrodingersScat> !appdb | divbyz0
[02:19] <OerHeks> http://appdb.winehq.org is the database with tests and solutions (maybe)
[02:20] <bazhang> that^
[02:20] <lenovo> you have inkscape program in menager its look like a CC
[02:20] <divbyz0> @CommonSense tried that horse hockey already
[02:20] <lenovo> Photoshop
[02:20] <sfranken> lenovo: Inkscape is for SVG images, GIMP is for general images and stuff
[02:20] <bazhang> cs6 works, to a degree
[02:21] <lenovo> sfranken: oh okey i didnt know
[02:21] <lenovo> tnx
[02:21] <sfranken> lenovo: no problem
[02:22] <lenovo> i just install Linux Mint 17.1 C
[02:22] <lenovo> its cool
[02:23] <anti-unix> where to download 14.10 dailybuild?
[02:23] <sfranken> anti-unix: You mean 15.04?
[02:24] <sfranken> lenovo: I don't really like mint, but that's me
[02:24] <lenovo> why ?
[02:24] <anti-unix> sfranken,  no,14.10
[02:24] <sfranken> anti-unix: There are no daily builds for 14.10
[02:24] <sfranken> anti-unix: Only for the current dev version, which is 15.04
[02:25] <sfranken> lenovo: I don't know. Cinnamon doesn't suit me, and the mint version I tried I couldn't upgrade to the next version. I had to reinstall
[02:25] <havoc_hive> I've never tried Cinnamon. Is there major difference?
[02:26] <sfranken> havoc_hive: Yeah, Taskbar on the bottom
[02:26] <anti-unix> sfranken,  i hope there still be dailybuild of 14.10,or i need speed a lot of time to update it
[02:26] <sfranken> havov_hive: It's a mix between Unity and KDE
[02:26] <redruum> sfranken: What about mate
[02:26] <lenovo> Its okey, for me, i tried manjaro but its not for me
[02:26] <sfranken> redruum: Nope, I don't like old tech
[02:26] <sfranken> lenovo: Which version of Manjaro? Kde?
[02:27] <lenovo> xfce
[02:27] <havoc_hive> sfranken: is that really it??
[02:27] <sfranken> havoc_hive: And different applications, but that's about it
[02:27] <sfranken> anti-unix: No, sorry, no up-to-date builds, sorry
[02:27] <redruum> sfranken: unity is new tech that's meant for tablets but used on desktops. Could see if they had a lot of tablets to install on.
[02:28] <havoc_hive> sfranken: you can install that on top of gnome right? or is it a replacment
[02:28] <sfranken> redruum: Eh, Unity works fine on desktops. Unity next is "responsive". Not that I follow, I use pure gnome
[02:28] <redruum> Xfce is great.
[02:29] <sfranken> havoc_hive: Gnome is a desktop environment in itself, but Unity is based on Gnome libraries. But you can install Cinnamon/mate over core Ubuntu
[02:29] <sfranken> havoc_hive: MATE is "old" gnome 2.x built from the ground up with Gnome 3 as a base
[02:29] <redruum> Xfce is fast and easy to configure but not to confusing like kde
[02:30]  * divbyz0 likeums chinese food and ribs
[02:31] <redruum> sfranken: mate started as old, but reinvented itself into New.
[02:31] <sfranken> Who cares what you use, as long as you enjoy using it and are cool with other people using what they like is my motto
[02:31] <sfranken> redruum: I know, but it's still the "old" gnome 2 desktop metaphore
[02:31]  * divbyz0 questions the hearts of passive-agressive extremists
[02:31] <sfranken> Not that there's anything wrong with that perse, it's just not for me
[02:32] <sfranken> But guys I've got to to. It's 3:30 here and I need sleep
[02:34] <lenovo> is here someone from serbia ?
[02:35] <willem> Hi, I am trying to disable the alt-f, alt-e, etc. shortcuts for the File, Edit, etc. menus. I tried to disable this by following https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1113420 which works for Nautilus but not for e.g. Chrome or the Atom editor. Anyone has any ideas?
[02:36] <anti-unix> i want developers build 14.10 up- to- date iso image
[02:37] <Bashing-om> anti-unix: There is none, the developers have moved on as 14.10 has been released .
[02:39] <anti-unix> 15.04 not sable at all
[02:39] <anti-unix> stable
[02:39] <anti-unix> i mean the dailybuild
[02:40] <Bashing-om> anti-unix: Up to date 14.10 : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop .
[02:41] <anti-unix> Bashing-om, i think it is not dailybuild
[02:41] <bazhang> anti-unix, its not,
[02:43] <Bashing-om> anti-unix: I say again .. there is no such thing as a daily build anymore for a released version .. 14.10 has been released and the developers are working a daily build for 15.04 .
[02:43] <bazhang> !15.10 | anti-unix
[02:43] <bazhang> augh
[02:44] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 anti-unix
[02:44] <anti-unix> and the installer of ubuntu hard to choose External hardware to install,like fedora you can choose witch harddisk to install
[02:44] <anti-unix> harddisk
[02:45] <teward> anti-unix: 14.10 is released as stable - it is no longer under development - 15.04 has daily images because it is under development.  (complaints you may have on Ubuntu are better suited for other channels, by the way)
[02:47] <anti-unix> it is not intuitive to install ubuntu on a external harddisk on ubuntu installer
[02:48] <bazhang> anti-unix, it is certainly possible, intuitive or not
[02:48] <anti-unix> bazhang not not intuitive
[02:49] <bazhang> anti-unix, thats not a support question though, you could file a wishlist bug on it
[02:49] <bazhang> anti-unix, other than that, complaints here are offtopic
[02:49] <anti-unix> bazhang, how
[02:49] <bazhang> !bug | anti-unix
[02:50] <anti-unix> ok
[02:54] <notmorpheus> testing a new computer, seeing scary issue
[02:55] <notmorpheus> can't restart vega z87 ftw
[02:55] <notmorpheus> it just shows code FF (fully functional) and fans etc stayy up
[02:55] <notmorpheus> shutdown/power up works
[02:55] <havoc_hive> notmorpheus: whats scary??
[02:55] <notmorpheus> well at first i was getting instant FF at boot, LED code on this mobo. after looking that up, it can be something scary like a bad mobo
[02:56] <notmorpheus> but i reset CMOS and now i only see it when i try to "restart" vs shutdown/power on
[02:56] <havoc_hive> notmorpheus: is there onboard reset and power buttons?
[02:56] <notmorpheus> there are, yes
[02:56] <havoc_hive> notmorpheus: are they working
[02:57] <notmorpheus> let me check. i think they are. but ubuntu nullifies the reset button on the front of the case anyway (not sure why, but i read it handles it diff)
[02:57] <notmorpheus> i can reset from front case button when in bios
[02:58] <notmorpheus> whoa
[02:58] <notmorpheus> not what i expected. physical reset key on the mobo did appear to reset, but nothing came back up ever
[02:58] <notmorpheus> no video
[02:58] <notmorpheus> stuck in FF similar to if i software restart
[02:59] <notmorpheus> fans still running etc.
[02:59] <havoc_hive> notmorpheus: interesting....
[03:00] <notmorpheus> havoc_hive: just reset from BIOS setup, let's see what that does.
[03:00] <notmorpheus> crap same thing. shows FF code on LED and fans etc are running but no video coming up
[03:01] <notmorpheus> feels like it's not faulty. someone just doesn't know how to reset proper
[03:01] <notmorpheus> maybe it's just not restarting HDMI properly
[03:01] <happyfr0gg> Adobe patches two Flash player 0-day vulnerabilities. Please refer to http://paste.ubuntu.com/9875639/ for more info.
[03:01] <havoc_hive> notmorpheus: i doubt it... ubuntu 14.04?
[03:02] <notmorpheus> 14.04.1 + updated
[03:02] <havoc_hive> notmorpheus: so if you go to shutdown in ubuntu, the computer screen darkens but never shuts down? fans still run and all right?
[03:02] <havoc_hive> notmorpheus: was it working before you updating?
[03:03] <notmorpheus> havoc_hive: don't think so. i always update immediately. first boot of this box, new hardware, about 5 mins before i came on here
[03:04] <notmorpheus> restart appears to log out, i see blinking cursor for a moment, ubuntu logo, then blue screen when monitor thinks signal is dead
[03:04] <notmorpheus> mobo instead of blinking many things like when you boot from cold
[03:04] <notmorpheus> just shows FF. all fans still running
[03:04] <ghost_22> is therer anyway to factory restore a ubuntu
[03:04] <havoc_hive> notmorpheus: im thinking %35 faulty board and the rest ubuntu. maybe trying using a live of sometype of flavor other than ubuntu and trying to restart the computer or shut down
[03:04] <ghost_22> factory restore my bad
[03:05] <notmorpheus> havoc_hive: 35% that 65% [what else]
[03:05] <notmorpheus> hehe
[03:05] <bazhang> ghost_22, reinstall from backups, yes
[03:05] <ghost_22> ok thanks
[03:05] <havoc_hive> notmorpheus: the board has a systems check so when it says FF id trust it.
[03:05] <havoc_hive> notmorpheus:%65 ubuntu fualt
[03:05] <notmorpheus> yeah. unfort they spit out FF immediately on boot sometimes if something else is wrong
[03:05] <havoc_hive> not try that and get back to me... i gotta run really quick. good luck!
[03:06] <notmorpheus> also stands for f8@&@ FAILure
[03:06] <notmorpheus> ok thanks man
[03:07] <havoc_hive> notmorpheus: yra try running a live of someother flavor and see what happens.if the same thing happens, then it could be the board. maybe try using the pref. that you need.
[03:07] <notmorpheus> i have win 7 i can use that to test reboot
[03:07] <notmorpheus> finally it will see some action
[03:07] <notmorpheus> it's so excited
[03:07] <havoc_hive> notmorpheus: yea that would work great.
[03:09] <Prezident> Ubuntu-dev have any channel?
[03:09] <Prezident> #ubuntu-dev is empty :/
[03:15] <Guest61619> anyone know about minitube
[03:28] <havoc_hive> notmorpheus: anything yet?
[03:30] <Grady> hello, I am on my tablet, on my main laptop which runs ubuntu 14.04 I am trying to connect to and xfinity wifi hotspot.... with windows it automatically pops up a browser and lets me sign into my xfinity account, but nothing pops up like that on ubuntu... does anyone know how to connect to a hotspot?
[03:31] <dxerf> in system properties you can select your network and in there you can choose the wifi (if Ubuntu can find the wifi hotspot).
[03:32] <dxerf> I think in Unity you also have the network icon in the upper right hand corner so you can select that and choose the wifi hotspot
[03:34] <Grady> dxerf, yes, I selected the wifi hotspot and connected to it, but I cannot sign in... (it just says connected) whenever I try to load a browser page it says unable to connect, probably because I havent signed in (mind you it is open network from a local starbucks or something)
[03:34] <MannyLNJ> I have ubuntu installed now,. How do I enable SSH connections and remote desktop?
[03:35] <dxerf> Grady: ahhh
[03:36] <dxerf> MannyLNJ: to enable ssh connections:  sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:41] <oats> I am installing Ubuntu and have the options of drives /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, the former is 320.1 gb and the latter is 24 gb, which do I use?
[03:42] <consolidated> is this going to be the only OS on the computer?
[03:42] <oats> yes
[03:42] <oats> well, presently windows 8 is on it
[03:43] <MannyLNJ> dxerf: thanks. ssh server is installing. I'm setting up ubuntu to be a media/print server on a laptop with a damaged screen
[03:43] <pavlos> oats, which disk is faster?
[03:43] <MannyLNJ> dxerf: now that the install completed How do I start the ssh server?
[03:44] <oats> pavlos: no idea
[03:44] <EriC^^> MannyLNJ: sudo service ssh start
[03:45] <pavlos> oats, you can install on any ... my ubuntu system 14.04 uses only 6GB. You can use the big disk for data
[03:45] <Grady> dxerf: am I kinda screwed?
[03:45] <MannyLNJ> EriC^^: thanks. Says it already started. Do I need to make new passwords to ssh in with?
[03:45] <oats> pavlos: Why are there two partitions on mine? one so small and one so big?
[03:46] <oats> the smaller one has samsung in the name
[03:46] <EriC^^> MannyLNJ: you use the user's password to login, like ssh user@host , then you enter the user's password to login
[03:46] <MannyLNJ> EriC^^: never mind I'm in over ssh. Now to figure out remote desktop
[03:47] <pavlos> oats, no idea ... if you dont want 2 partitions use gparted and remove one or reformat the disk to one big partition
[03:47] <oats> pavlos: What do you recommend?
[03:47] <notmorpheus> havoc_hive: it's not Ubuntu :-(
[03:47] <pavlos> oats, if you will use ubuntu on that disk and nothing else, format the WHOLE disk
[03:48] <oats> ook
[03:49] <oats> pavlos: Unfortunately it appears I can only choose one of the two
[03:49] <oats> I guess I will go with 24 GB ATA SAMSUNG MZMPA024
[03:49] <pavlos> oats, that's fine
[03:50] <oats> ook thank you
[03:50] <pavlos> np
[03:52] <elvis_precisely> hi.  i have an .iso on a usb stick that i created with unetbootin.  i can install ubuntu but it does not boot alongside xp (the install method i chose)
[03:54] <oats> pavlos: also, I have no mouse cursor / control in the Ubuntu install. will it appear after it finishes?
[03:55] <MannyLNJ> I excecuted  sudo apt-get install  xrdp and was able to comnnect from my Windows system to my Ubunto system using remote desktop but all I get is a grey screen. Any idea what I overlooked?
[03:56] <oats> okay bigger problem "executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed. This is a fatal error."
[03:56] <oats> what do I do
[03:57] <elvis_precisely> i'll try wubi
[03:59] <oats> pavlos?
[03:59] <elvis_precisely> oh hey wow!  ubuntu has parted magic!
[03:59] <mini_> hello
[03:59] <mini_> how to install skype on xubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[03:59] <elvis_precisely> mini.  u "do" know that microsoft is listening to your skype calls hey?
[04:00] <mini_> i know
[04:00] <mini_> i don't care
[04:00] <mini_> i use if for business purposes and most of my contact sare using skype
[04:00] <mini_> i use if for business purposes and most of my contacts are using skype
[04:01] <Bashing-om> elvis_precisely: Bt aware 'WUBI' is no longer supported .. and has issues with UEFI firmware .
[04:01] <pavlos> oats, I thought sdb is the 24 GB What install are you doing?
[04:02] <notmorpheus> havoc_hive: same behavior whether restarting from win or even from bios (save + restart, for ex.)
[04:02] <elvis_precisely> okay thanks.  i shud be ok on this oldie dell pc
[04:02] <oats> pavlos: .. I may have chosen the wrong one
[04:02] <oats> I googled and it recommends I disable secure boot, am doing that now
[04:03] <pavlos> oats, from your previous post, sdb is the small disk
[04:03] <elvis_precisely> maybe time to just gpart the disk and install it that way
[04:03] <oats> yes, I thought I chose sdb
[04:03] <elvis_precisely> only reason im installing ubuntu is this book on learning the command line suggests installing ubuntu
[04:04] <elvis_precisely> http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[04:05] <MannyLNJ> I am using ubuntu 14.04 LTS. I can connect from a windows system using RDP but get a screen without any icons and just a X for the cursor. Any help to get my desktop to appear would be appreciated
[04:05] <Bashing-om> elvis_precisely: There is that 4 primary partition limit . Keep that in mind .
[04:07] <elvis_precisely> hmmm... yes.  noted.
[04:07] <oats> pavlos: it appears secureboot is already disabled
[04:07] <oats> retrying install selecting sdb
[04:09] <Jensit> heyho
[04:09] <Bashing-om> elvis_precisely: Possible that Windows XP has all the partitions in use, In MBR partitioning can not make more .. BUT .. make up a primary partition as "extended" and in that "extended" partition make up logical partitions. Ubuntu will happily install on logical partitions.
[04:12] <pavlos> oats, this may help ... http://www.howtogeek.com/175641/how-to-boot-and-install-linux-on-a-uefi-pc-with-secure-boot/
[04:13] <oats> pavlos: secure boot is off so apparently that's not the problem
[04:15] <oats> pavlos: Is there something fundamentally wrong with this whole system if install has so many problems?
[04:15] <pavlos> oats, win8 does some weird stuff hence I suggested wiping the whole disk and starting fresh
[04:16] <pavlos> oats, assuming you have no data to lose
[04:16] <oats> pavlos: everything I need backed up
[04:16] <pavlos> oats, so play with gparted, wipe the disk, format it ext4 and start the install
[04:17] <elvis_precisely> yes.  ubuntu did happily install in a logical part but she wouldn't boot.  i even tried plop disk from hirens
[04:17] <oats> pavlos: however, upon ubuntu install, where it would otherwise allow me to customize partitioning, I cannot, because the "advanced partitioning options" is only accessible by mouse and not by tab/arrow keys/space for some reason
[04:17] <oats> gparted?
[04:18] <elvis_precisely> adios
[04:18] <pavlos> oats, how about accepting the default partitioning and let it install. Tomorrow you can re-install and play with adv settings. No idea why the mouse or tab key does not work.
[04:18] <wachpwnski> Is there a reason I can't right click on docky and pull up chromium incognito? and it only says New Window? Is it something I need to add to the desktop file?
[04:19] <gtristan> Can I use this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ubuntu/ppa to install firefox 3.5 on precise ?
[04:19] <Guest7949> hey guys i am newbie can you tell me how  to access windows partition
[04:20] <oats> pavlos: am trying install again. "This computer currently has windows 8 and ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS on it. What would you like to do? 1) Erase ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and reinstall 2) Erase everything and reinstall"
[04:20] <gtristan> I'm following this thing: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-firefox-35-on-ubuntu... and I'm not sure what to do next, I added the ppa and did sudo apt-get update, but it says there is no package firefox-3.5
[04:20] <pavlos> oats, I'd say 2
[04:21] <oats> pavlos: Why does it say ubuntu is on it? Does that mean the prev install filled up some of a partition?
[04:22] <skweek> gtristan, what's firefox 3.5?
[04:22] <pavlos> oats, no idea ... is there a way to boot off a usb stick that have ubuntu, and then use that to format the disk sdb and install there?
[04:22] <gtristan> skweek, firefox 35, in precise the default is 34
[04:22] <gtristan> skweek, 3.5 is latest stable I think
[04:23] <dresden> anyone here in India?
[04:23] <oats> pavlos: certainly not that I know of
[04:23] <somsip> !info firefox precise
[04:23] <notmorpheus> havoc_hive: fixed it!
[04:23] <oats> I am actually using ubuntu to install via the "try ubuntu" option
[04:23] <somsip> gtristan: strongly suggest 35 is standard for 12.04
[04:24] <gtristan> somsip, hmmm, maybe I need to update it... I've been avoiding 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[04:24] <pavlos> oats, not sure I understand your setup
[04:24] <somsip> gtristan: it's often the best way to upgrade
[04:24]  * gtristan wonders how to 'sudo apt-get upgrade only-firefox-and-its-deps-please'
[04:24] <oats> pavlos: from usb disc image you can go into install or you can go into ubuntu demo and install from there
[04:24] <somsip> gtristan: apt-get install firefox IIRC
[04:25] <notmorpheus> kuhuh
[04:25] <oats> where install is an app on the desktop of the demo
[04:25] <gtristan> somsip, alright thanks for the help man :)
[04:25] <somsip> gtristan: np - just update first and --dry-run if you want to be doubly sure
[04:25] <gtristan> somsip, it's indeed downloading 35
[04:25] <gtristan> I had 34 for a while now
[04:26] <pavlos> oats, so your system (desktop|laptop) is booting off a ubuntu CD and it shows on the desktop install Ubuntu. You clicked on that, you select sdb as the install disk and that does not work?
[04:26] <mach20x> anyone here seen this and has been working on a port for Ubuntu https://www.flux.utah.edu/project/a3
[04:27] <oats> pavlos: actually since the options I showed you 1) and 2), it is not letting me move on in install
[04:27] <oats> but yes
[04:27] <somsip> mach20x: I would suggest the contact link would be the best first point of enquiry
[04:28] <pavlos> oats, I hope someone else can help since I have no other idea
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> mach20x: seems like some sort of virtual honeypot
[04:29] <oats> pavlos: nevermind it let me move on now, maybe it will give the same
[04:29] <oats> error
[04:29] <oats> pavlos: Is english your first language?
[04:29] <pavlos> oats, nope,I'm Greek but live ins the US for 30 years
[04:30] <mach20x> lotuspsychje: how do you figure?
[04:30] <oats> pavlos: ook. Are you a computer developer or something?
[04:30] <pavlos> oats, since you're running off a CD, you should be able to start gparted and format your disk. the CD image runs on memory.
[04:31] <oats> pavlos: running off of USB actually
[04:31] <pavlos> oats, yes, my work is computers
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> mach20x: check this article: http://www.networkworld.com/article/2851394/security0/a3-advanced-adaptive-applications-the-end-of-server-malware-and-hacking.html
[04:31] <pavlos> oats, either CD on usb, right now it runs off memory so you can zap the disk using gparted
[04:31] <oats> The problem is I cannot use tackpad on my laptop to control cursor and so everything is difficult
[04:31] <oats> can I do without mouse in terminal?
[04:32] <pavlos> oats, how old is the laptop?
[04:32] <oats> 1-2 years
[04:32] <pavlos> oats, strange that touchpad is not recognized.
[04:33] <pavlos> oats, plug in an exteranl usb mouse
[04:33] <oats> I don't have an external mouse :p
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> mach20x: check the #ubuntu-server guys, someone might have use it..
[04:35] <oats> install almost done
[04:35] <oats> expecting the same error in
[04:35] <pavlos> oats, you can use the TAB key to go into menus and then other keys ALT-something for stuff but it will be rather difficult.
[04:35] <oats> 10
[04:35] <oats> 5
[04:35] <oats> 0
[04:35] <oats> okay maybe 20 more seconds
[04:36] <oats> pavlos: my laptop is touchscreen
[04:36] <pavlos> oats, how much ram on the laptop
[04:36] <oats> I disabled touchscreen driver many months ago
[04:36] <oats> for some reason touchscreen works now on ubuntu
[04:36] <oats> surprise
[04:36] <pavlos> oats, well, I dont have experience in that
[04:37] <oats> maybe I can use it instead of mouse
[04:37] <pavlos> oats, google 'touchscreen ubuntu' and you will find entries
[04:38] <mach20x> I'll do that, but I dropped it here because it would be really exciting to have this on end user electronics
[04:40] <oats> pavlos: I think ubuntu successfully installed
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> mach20x: looks pretty high-tech indeed, but snort/clamav/rkhunter can do many magic also
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> mach20x: there are few good ids/honeypots out there for ubuntu
[04:41] <pavlos> oats, take the usb stick out, reboot
[04:41] <oats> pavlos: mouse works now
[04:41] <oats> woo
[04:41] <oats> but laptop brightness/volume controls are not
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> mach20x: i recently found that latest linux trojan in clamav's database, so its pretty up to date
[04:42] <oats> how do I know that windows is gone?
[04:42] <oats> nevermind brightness and volume work now
[04:42] <skweek> oats, I use a touchscreen with ubuntu 14.10 and I notice that I fat finger a lot of things and rarely use it
[04:43] <oats> skweek: I disabled touchscreen on windows a while ago
[04:43] <oats> the screen gets very dirty
[04:44] <skweek> and I haven't found any gesture support, have you read anything?
[04:44] <pavlos> oats, what's the model of the tablet?
[04:44] <oats> pavlos: now my laptop thinks the USB is a computer. How do I make it normal USB again
[04:44] <oats> lenovo thinkpad s230u
[04:45] <BoojeWookeMan> How do I get data on size of packages installed in a fresh KU 1404? I got a 5G partition, & would like to remove some unnecessary packages. Thanks.
[04:45] <pavlos> oats, what? the usb has a live ubuntu image on it.
[04:45] <oats> pavlos: do I just delete everything on the usb?
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> BoojeWookeMan: bleachbit can remove alot of unused files
[04:46] <pavlos> oats, sure, you can re-format the usb to whatever fs you want.
[04:46] <oats> what is NFTS vs xFAT?
[04:47] <oats> in format options
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> BoojeWookeMan: check also df -h from terminal
[04:48] <BoojeWookeMan> lotuspsychje: Thx. I want to find out the _disk size_ used by all the packages, so I can find something unnecessary I can remove & free up a big chunk o space. Suggestions for getting a list of installed package sizes?
[04:49] <mach20x> Anyone know how to stop my mouse cursor from flickering? It's been like this for awhile, and it's a little slow at making window layer transitions
[04:50] <LinuxGold> sometimes documents can be outdated -- trying to figure out if Ubuntu have QT 5.4 packate for apt-get?
[04:50] <somsip> !info qt
[04:50] <somsip> !info qt5
[04:50] <somsip> LinuxGold: do you have a more full name for the package?
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> BoojeWookeMan: software centre and remove packages from there? dpkg should also be able to list them
[04:51] <pavlos> oats, you can start gparted and see all partitions in the drive. Hopefully sdb is linux and sda is win8
[04:51] <LinuxGold> [  1%] Building CXX object manual/CMakeFiles/genManual.dir/genManual.cpp.o
[04:51] <LinuxGold> all.h:159:24: fatal error: QQuickWidget: No such file or directory
[04:51] <LinuxGold>  #include <QQuickWidget>
[04:51] <LinuxGold> trying to install musescore
[04:52] <somsip> LinuxGold: still not answering the question - what is the name of the package you want to find? qt...something?
[04:52] <somsip> !info qt-sdk | LinuxGold (perhaps?)
[04:53] <somsip> maybe not...
[04:53] <Linxcat> anyone here use kvm and created filesystem passthrough? i have a permissions issue
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> maybe he wants virtualbox-qt?
[04:53] <LinuxGold> no
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> !details | LinuxGold
[04:53] <LinuxGold> ok -- I'll figure the right question to ask
[04:53] <LinuxGold> brb
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:54] <mach20x> lotuspsychje: my machine is seemingly hanging on the install of snort in the software center
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> mach20x: what does it say?
[04:57] <LinuxGold> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9876708/
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> !info qmake
[04:58] <EriC^^> !find qmake
[04:58] <LinuxGold> apt-get install said that qt5-qmake is already the newest version.
[04:59] <LinuxGold> I'll use !find -- thanks.
[04:59] <EriC^^> LinuxGold: you can try apt-get install --reinstall
[05:00] <mach20x> !find snort
[05:00] <LinuxGold> qt5-qmake-gles do not exist
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> !info snort | mach20x
[05:00] <LinuxGold> !info qt5-qmake-gles
[05:02] <LinuxGold> thanks for the clues -- working on it now.
[05:03] <notmorpheus> havoc_hive: bios flash to latest version fixed it, prob. overrode corrupt flash or something
[05:05] <`hypermist`> I was trying to play a game (garrys mod) on my ubuntu when it said gpulock
[05:05] <oats> pavlos:only sda1, 2, and 5
[05:06] <`hypermist`> i've changed drivers now but idk. if it will make a difference.
[05:06] <oats> sda5 is subset of sda2
[05:09] <oats> pavlos: how do I know in gparted if sda is windows?
[05:10] <LinuxGold> qmake -v
[05:10] <LinuxGold> oops
[05:12] <EriC^^> oats: it's most likely ntfs
[05:13] <EriC^^> oats: type sudo parted -l
[05:13] <MrAristo> Is using "watch -n 1 cat /proc/net/wireless" the best way to monitor your signal from command line?  Or is there a way to specifically (and only) show "speed"?
[05:14] <bruxC> Hello, was hoping to get some support with mounting a ntfs in fstab. its for a plex server and permissions aren't necessary for me.
[05:14] <oats> pavlos: thank you greatly for all your help
[05:14] <oats> EriC^^: I cannot distinguish which one is Windows
[05:14] <oats> I thought my new linux install overwrote windows
[05:15] <miklcct> oats: use "sudo blkid /dev/sd??" to view the volume labels
[05:15] <oats> two question maeks
[05:15] <oats> ?
[05:15] <miklcct> ? stands for any character
[05:15] <LinuxGold> !info QAbstractMessageHandler
[05:15] <EriC^^> MrAristo: you can use tail -f /proc/net/wireless
[05:16] <oats> the uuid's say nothing about the OS
[05:16] <EriC^^> MrAristo: or tailf /proc/net/wireless
[05:17] <MrAristo> EriC^^, For some reason using tail -f spaced my mind.  Thanks.
[05:17] <miklcct> How about the type
[05:17] <miklcct> it should show the FS type
[05:17] <EriC^^> oats: yes, take a look at the fs type
[05:18] <oats> both have number 1 as ext4 and number 5 as linux-swap(v1)
[05:18] <oats> what does this mean
[05:18] <EriC^^> it's a linux partition
[05:19] <EriC^^> oats: please pastebin sudo parted -l
[05:20] <bruxC> could i get some help with how to fstab a sdb1 with adequate permissions to accomodate my plex server so i may use the media thats on this drive?
[05:20] <EriC^^> MrAristo: no problem
[05:20] <bruxC> im new to linux and could use the help.
[05:20] <EriC^^> bruxC: what permissions do you need?
[05:20] <MeRJS> hello
[05:20] <bruxC> i wouldn't mind if it was full permissions for everyone.
[05:21] <bruxC> it's in a lab and its content i wouldn't mind be compromised.
[05:21] <bruxC> being*
[05:21] <oats_ubuntu> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/0vJ9dHpB
[05:21] <oats_ubuntu> first time accessing freenode on Ubuntu
[05:23] <EriC^^> bruxC: you can give everybody read access if you'd like, do they need write access?
[05:23] <bruxC> i guess not.
[05:23] <bruxC> i mean it would be write access for adding new content
[05:23] <oats_ubuntu> eric: any idea?
[05:23] <EriC^^> bruxC: who'd you like to own the files?
[05:23] <bruxC> and i have multiple devices that would like to tap into the drive
[05:23] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: 1 sec
[05:24] <bruxC> eventually i'll be having the plex server oversee the drive permanently
[05:25] <oats_ubuntu> ook
[05:25] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: looks like there are 2 linux installations
[05:25] <oats_ubuntu> eric bah how did that happen
[05:25] <oats_ubuntu> is windows completely gone
[05:25] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: are you in ubuntu right now?
[05:25] <EriC^^> nevermind
[05:25] <EriC^^> type df -h
[05:26] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: it looks like it
[05:26] <EriC^^> bruxC: who'd you like to be the owner of the files?
[05:26] <bruxC> plexserver
[05:26] <oats_ubuntu> http://pastebin.com/eeSBEV1Y
[05:26] <EriC^^> the user called plexserver?
[05:27] <bruxC> user
[05:27] <bruxC> is the name
[05:28] <EriC^^> ok type id user and paste here
[05:28] <miklcct> oats_ubuntu: how about "fdisk -l /dev/sd?"
[05:29] <bruxC> uid=1000(user) gid=1000(user) groups=1000(user),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),110(lpadmin),111(sambashare)
[05:29] <oats_ubuntu> id: user: no such user
[05:29] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: not you :)
[05:29] <oats_ubuntu> ook haha
[05:29] <EriC^^> bruxC: type sudo blkid and get the ntfs partition's uuid
[05:30] <bruxC>   /dev/sdb1: LABEL="PLEX" UUID="1AA4CA3AA4CA1861" TYPE="ntfs"
[05:30] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: did you have important data on the windows partition?
[05:31] <EriC^^> bruxC: where do you want to mount it? do you need it mounted at boot time automatically?
[05:31] <bruxC> preferably automatically
[05:31] <oats_ubuntu> EriC^^:  in the file system browser on Ubuntu, under devices, I have Computer ( / ) and then another thing "20 GB volume" that's /media/oats/a64a1111-a740-4d54-b0d6-6a5d8974c245
[05:31] <bruxC> in case the server reboots. i'd like to make sure the files can be available for the plex server
[05:31] <oats_ubuntu> whose contents are identical to Computer /
[05:32] <oats_ubuntu> and no I backed everything I needed from windows up
[05:32] <miklcct> oats_ubuntu: Can you pastebin the result of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sd?"
[05:33] <oats_ubuntu> http://pastebin.com/vDdD7bkL
[05:34] <miklcct> oats_ubuntu: please note that there is only one ? in the command
[05:34] <EriC^^> bruxC: UUID=1AA4CA3AA4CA1861 /path/to/mountpoint  ntfs-3g   defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=022,fmask=133    0       0
[05:34] <miklcct> oats_ubuntu: please try again
[05:34] <EriC^^> bruxC: type sudo nano /etc/fstab and add that line, replace /path/to/mountpoint with the mountpoint
[05:34] <bruxC> will do.
[05:35] <bruxC> where's a good mount point? /media/windows ?
[05:35] <bruxC> also, once i create this new mountpoint folder, do i need to chmod it?
[05:35] <oats_ubuntu> http://pastebin.com/EDQ9G99B
[05:36] <ovrflw0x> why do fonts get thin and thick (dark) automatically on ubuntu 14.10?
[05:36] <EriC^^> yeah, chown it to your user:group and chmod it to 755
[05:36] <EriC^^> bruxC: ^
[05:36] <oats_ubuntu> EriC^^: Any idea?
[05:36] <ovrflw0x> why do fonts get thin and thick (dark) automatically on ubuntu 14.10?  i.e. it happens sometimes when i poweroff/on the laptop
[05:36] <oats_ubuntu> miklcct: sent
[05:36] <bruxC> chmod 755 /media/windows
[05:36] <bruxC> is that right?
[05:36] <miklcct> oats_ubuntu: I think you have accidentally deleted the windows partition when installing linux
[05:36] <bruxC> syntax isn't my strong suit.
[05:36] <fspkwon91> I've got to say I havent added any repositories and the software is working for me and i have just about everything for everything installed
[05:37] <bruxC> strength* nor is english for that matter.
[05:37] <oats_ubuntu> miklcct: That was intentional
[05:37] <EriC^^> bruxC: yes
[05:37] <oats_ubuntu> but why are there two
[05:38] <fspkwon91> darktable gets some good sharp images
[05:38] <bruxC> or is it chown 755 /media/windows EriC^^ ?
[05:38] <fspkwon91> and ive gotta say the gimp plugins make it damn near photoshop
[05:38] <oats_ubuntu> Under devices I have "Computer" which is root / and I think it's mine, and then I have another device called "20 GB volume" at /media/oats/a64a1111-a740-4d54-b0d6-6a5d8974c245
[05:38] <seronis> i have 1000s of files that i extracted from an old windows *.zip.  all of the filenmes came out as    path\to\blah\realname.ext  instead of  putting the files into directories.  is there a command i can type that will rename/move them all in one batch ?
[05:38] <EriC^^> bruxC: no, chown user:user /media/windows
[05:38] <oats_ubuntu> their contents look identical
[05:39] <ovrflw0x> why does font rendering changes and gets back to default by itself during reboots? on ubuntu 14.10
[05:39] <miklcct> oats_ubuntu: you have two hard disks
[05:39] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: i guess you installed linux on both partitions, you also have 2 swap partitions
[05:39] <bruxC> :) thank you, rebooting and crossing my fingers.
[05:39] <oats_ubuntu> What does that mean / what are the implications?
[05:40] <miklcct> oats_ubuntu: you may try to boot to another hard disk and see
[05:40] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: well for 1 i think you should switch the linux installations, as you're using the big disk for "/" right now, i think it's better as a separate /home partition and the other as "/"
[05:40] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: if grub is installed on both mbr's switch the boot order in the bios
[05:40] <bruxC> ugh. Stupid plex.
[05:40] <oats_ubuntu> EriC^^: Should I delete one?
[05:41] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: yes
[05:41] <oats_ubuntu> I'm half asleep so not too good at parsing jargon :p
[05:41] <miklcct> oats_ubuntu: are you sure that the OS installed on the other disk is not useful to you>
[05:41] <EriC^^> boot into the other one, and delete the big disk and use it as a separate /home
[05:41] <oats_ubuntu> I already installed my things and updated the one I'm on
[05:42] <oats_ubuntu> miklcct: Not that I know of; my goal was to remove windows and install ubuntu
[05:42] <oats_ubuntu> I don't know why I'm on a 290 gb partition
[05:42] <oats_ubuntu> Is that bad?
[05:42] <oats_ubuntu> is there any way I can shrink the parition I'm presently on and delete the other 20 gb one?
[05:42] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: not really, are both hdd's?
[05:43] <oats_ubuntu> EriC^^: How would I know that? :p
[05:44] <EriC^^> bruxC: no problem :)
[05:44] <miklcct> oats_ubuntu: I suggest you to move your linux installation to /dev/sdb, and make a /home and swap on /dev/sda
[05:44] <oats_ubuntu> They're all from the same drive
[05:44] <oats_ubuntu> miklcct: How would I do all that?
[05:44] <oats_ubuntu> is sdb the "20 GB volume" it shows under devices?
[05:44] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: i mean is one an ssd?
[05:45] <miklcct> oats_ubuntu: yes
[05:45] <miklcct> oats_ubuntu: I don't know if your 20 GB drive is an SSD or not
[05:45] <ovrflw0x> anyone?
[05:45] <oats_ubuntu> how would I replace the contents of that one with the install I'm using  and make a /home and swap on a /dev/sda
[05:45] <oats_ubuntu> EriC^^: erm, I'm not sure
[05:45] <ovrflw0x> why does font rendering changes and gets back to default by itself during reboots? on ubuntu 14.10... i booted into 14.10 ubuntu and found that font look "thinner"!
[05:45] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: that's more trouble than it's worth
[05:46] <EriC^^> just boot the other installation, and install your stuff there
[05:46] <EriC^^> you can get a list of the packages you installed and auto install them there
[05:46] <oats_ubuntu> What is the downside of me using this install?
[05:46] <miklcct> oats_ubuntu: I would instead use the following method
[05:46] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: nothing, you can remove the other hdd and use it for something else
[05:46] <ovrflw0x> why does font rendering changes (fonts become thin) and gets back to default (thick) by itself during reboots? on ubuntu 14.10... i just booted into 14.10 ubuntu and found that font look "thinner"!
[05:47] <miklcct> 1: boot from USB
[05:47] <oats_ubuntu> also I don't remember installing ubuntu twice, what if the other install is some failed corrupted install
[05:47] <miklcct> 2. mount the partitions
[05:47] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: if both are hdd's i dont think it matters
[05:47] <miklcct> 3. do a "cp --recursive --preserve=all"
[05:47] <miklcct> 4. modify "/etc/fstab"
[05:47] <miklcct> 5. chroot and install-grub
[05:47] <miklcct> done
[05:48] <oats_ubuntu> miklcct I really don't understand all that
[05:48] <oats_ubuntu> what does eachs tep do, and how do I modify /etc/fstab?
[05:48] <oats_ubuntu> Eric^^: Aren't they just paritions of the same memory?
[05:49] <miklcct> What it does is to dump the contents from the old disk to the new disk, preserving everything
[05:49] <miklcct> modifying /etc/fstab and installing grub is to boot the new partition
[05:50] <oats_ubuntu> miklcct: Why do you recommend switching away from the disk I'm presently using?
[05:50] <oats_ubuntu> I mean how do I modify fstab/ what do I do in the file
[05:51] <oats_ubuntu> and what do I chroot
[05:52] <ovrflw0x> why does font rendering changes (fonts become thin) and gets back to default (thick) by itself during reboots? on ubuntu 14.10... i just booted into 14.10 ubuntu and found that font look "thinner"!
[05:52] <oats_ubuntu> EriC^^: You still here?
[05:53] <oats_ubuntu> wb mijlcct
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> !fstab | oats_ubuntu
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> ovrflw0x: check your garfix card driver loaded
[05:54] <EriC^^> garfix
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> ovrflw0x: in additional drivers section, or sudo lshw -C video
[05:55] <EriC^^> is that a typo?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> grafix :p
[05:55] <miklcct> oats_ubuntu: I suggest you use different disks for system and data
[05:56] <miklcct> oats_ubuntu: It is to reduce the chance of damaging the data if the system is broken
[05:56] <oats_ubuntu> miklcct: Isn't the data on the system though? What do you mean?
[05:56] <oats_ubuntu> Can you explain how these are broken up?
[05:56] <miklcct> oats_ubuntu: You are currently having /home in /
[05:56] <miklcct> oats_ubuntu: It is dangerous, the risk of losing data due to system malfunction is high
[05:56] <ovrflw0x> lotuspsychje, fonts look thin only in "nautilus"
[05:57] <eltigre> My PC just failed, and I need to access an encrypted home dir via USB... how can I do that?
[05:57] <ovrflw0x> everywhere else is ok
[05:57] <eltigre> ecryptfs-recover-private doesn't seem to do anything except mount the same placeholder under /tmp/
[05:58] <oats_ubuntu> miklcct: But where else would /home/ be in? How would copying it to a smaller parition change any of that?
[05:58] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: he means having it on the larger disk
[05:59] <ovrflw0x> lotuspsychje, not in nautilus but "Files  3.10" on ubuntu 14.10
[05:59] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: from a sane perspective "/" needs about 7gb and will grow with installed programs to about 10gb tops, for a desktop 20gb is plenty enough
[05:59] <oats_ubuntu> EriC^^: I don't understand; what is mik talking about with the security risks then
[06:00] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: it makes sense to have "/" as the 20gb disk and home on a separate disk thats way larger
[06:00] <EriC^^> ( cause it will have all your personal files, music, etc. etc. )
[06:01] <LinuxGold> !info qt5.4
[06:01] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: he is talking about the filesystem getting corrupted, if it's on another filesystem in case your "/" gets corrupted it will survive
[06:01] <oats_ubuntu> ook I see
[06:01] <ovrflw0x> lotuspsychje, ?
[06:02] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: most people use 1 partition as though, ext4 is pretty good
[06:02] <EriC^^> wont hurt to have a separate /home though, and you can share it between distros, it's easier to reinstall, etc. etc.
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> ovrflw0x: did you check your graphics driver yet?
[06:02] <oats_ubuntu> EriC^^: so, is the idea that, I put ubuntu on the 20 gb one and mount its home folder to a directory in the 290 gb partition?
[06:02] <ovrflw0x> lotuspsychje, it is open source radeon driver
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> ovrflw0x: other drivers show up your list?
[06:03] <miklcct> oats_ubuntu: That's exactly what I meant
[06:03] <ovrflw0x> lotuspsychje, driver=radeon
[06:04] <ovrflw0x> driver=i915
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> ovrflw0x: can you check additional drivers (hardware) icon to see if other drivers list?
[06:05] <ovrflw0x> lotuspsychje, i don't think this is drivers issue as everywhere else except file browser fonts look ok
[06:05] <oats_ubuntu> ook
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> ovrflw0x: when did your font start to show 'thin'? after update?reboot?
[06:05] <ovrflw0x> lotuspsychje, after reboot
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> ovrflw0x: try create a new user and test nautilus font from there plz
[06:06] <oats_ubuntu> What is the use of vim and emacs in linux? Is it a programming environment?
[06:06] <ovrflw0x> ok brb
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> !emacs | oats_ubuntu
[06:06] <WangXufeng> I ‘don't know how to use  ibus to input pinyin.I use sougou pinyin in windows.
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> !info vim | oats_ubuntu
[06:08] <oats_ubuntu> Why do people use vim and emacs instead of netbeans and eclipse and gui editors alike?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> oats_ubuntu: everyone has another purpose with packages
[06:09] <oats_ubuntu> What do you mean?
[06:09] <Stanley00> oats_ubuntu: because they like it. Nexttime, if you see one, just ask them why :P
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> oats_ubuntu: meaning users choose their own flavors, for different kind of goals
[06:09] <somsip> oats_ubuntu: and these sort of questions are better in #ubuntu-offtopic as they are not support questions
[06:11] <oats_ubuntu> ook thank you
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> ovrflw0x: any changes?
[06:12] <ovrflw0x> lotuspsychje, in guest account fonts look OK and now fonts in default account also started looking ok
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> !yay | ovrflw0x
[06:12] <ovrflw0x> lotuspsychje, but fonts changes by itself in default account!
[06:13] <ovrflw0x> lotuspsychje, as i said this problem occurs sometimes during reboot
[06:13] <miklcct> !ubottu
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> ovrflw0x: not sure what causes this, check your logs maybe
[06:13] <ovrflw0x> like which log
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> ovrflw0x: syslog, dmesg
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> ovrflw0x: wich ubuntu version was this again?
[06:14] <ovrflw0x> 14.10
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> ovrflw0x: you tested 14.04 for same issues?
[06:14] <ovrflw0x> no
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> i reccomend it
[06:15] <ovrflw0x> nah
[06:15] <miklcct> Is it possible to synchronise outlook.com contacts in Ubuntu 14.10?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> !info thunderbird | miklcct
[06:19] <dw1> hey, what's the best gui tool to view files being opened and closed?
[06:20] <miklcct> lotuspsychje: I'm using Thunderbird as the mail client, but what I want is the contacts.
[06:21] <wafflej0ck_> miklcct, you need to export the contacts into CSV or VCF something that can be imported into other programs in most cases, typically unless someone hacks something together MS doesn't release software for Linux (skype aside)
[06:22] <somsip> miklcct: as above, eg: http://support.real-time.com/tbird/outlook_import.html
[06:22] <miklcct> wafflej0ck_: I am synchronsing the contacts among my devices and I would like to find a way to also synchronise it onto my Ubuntu laptop
[06:25] <roo79x> hi all I have a dell latitude e5410 running xubuntu 14.04 64bit I have an issue with the alpsPS/2 Alps dualpoint touchpad, if I tap on the touchpad it "right clicks" instead of left clicks?
[06:25] <wafflej0ck_> miklcct, yea you're probably looking at third party sync solutions then, here's one I found on a quick Googling about Linux and contact sync with outlook https://www.memotoo.com/ they have a free version so you could give it a shot before you buy if you need it to sync more than 50 contacts
[06:26] <ZA> Morning / Evening. Can anyone advice me on how to change the boot order on Linux? so to have the Windows duel boot 1st, and also how to turn off the boot menu for the Linux partition
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> !grub | ZA
[06:27] <ZA> thanks peeps
[06:29] <jaypro> hey guys...i'm trying to install vid.stab. what directory is ffmpeg installed? i need to configure it
[06:33] <EriC^^> jaypro: type whereis ffpmeg
[06:35] <jaypro> EriC^^ what i got was "ffpmeg:"
[06:35] <EriC^^> jaypro: it's not installed i think
[06:35] <EriC^^> jaypro: ubuntu uses a different one av video something
[06:35] <somsip> jaypro: what version of ubuntu? It changed from ffmpeg to avconv recently
[06:35] <EriC^^> avsomething
[06:35] <somsip> !find avconv
[06:36] <somsip> libav-tools in the parent package
[06:37] <jaypro> im actually on debian and assumed it would be in the same directory
[06:37] <somsip> jaypro: then we can't help you, and that's why - assumptions between ubuntu and debian often do not work
[06:37] <roo79x> hi all I have a dell latitude e5410 running xubuntu 14.04 64bit I have an issue with the alpsPS/2 Alps dualpoint touchpad, if I tap on the touchpad it "right clicks" instead of left clicks?
[06:38] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to kill some process that is not being listed in the system monitor? Because I'm running apache on this machine and its stuck on an infinite loop, using 100% of my CPU
[06:39] <somsip> kokut: sudo killall apache2
[06:40] <kokut> somsip: thanks man, it turns out firefox was involved too somehow
[06:40] <somsip> kokut: if firefox was calling a page running on apache, that would make sense
[06:40] <kokut> Well i thought the processing was going to be made by apache process not by firefox
[06:43] <theadmin> kokut: Well sure but a badly-written page may well cause a browser to hang.
[06:44] <`hypermist`> I can't seem to play anygame on ubuntu with my gpu
[06:44] <`hypermist`> I get GPULOCK error. which will happen soon
[06:46] <neocher> hi
[06:47] <`hypermist`> what can i do. guys
[06:47] <`hypermist`> EriC^^, hello ?
[06:48] <somsip> `hypermist`: what video card, what version of ubuntu, what drivers?
[06:49] <`hypermist`> gpu: nvidia gts 450 ubuntu:14.04 uhm drivers should be 346.35 some1_
[06:49] <`hypermist`> somsip, *
[06:52] <somsip> `hypermist`: busy now - maybe someone else can help, but post the real version of the drivers - don't guess
[06:54] <roo79x> hi all I have a dell latitude e5410 running xubuntu 14.04 64bit I have an issue with the alpsPS/2 Alps dualpoint touchpad, if I tap on the touchpad it "right clicks" instead of left clicks? my settings -> mouse and touchpad http://i57.tinypic.com/33cmzh5.png
[06:57] <`hypermist`> somsip, all i did was apt-get install nvidia-current
[06:57] <`hypermist`> thats all i did lol
[07:11] <i-_> meta-/ /input jump_last_buffer_displayed
[07:16] <utsav> where to find .bashrc file to update PATH variable for Oracle Java
[07:16] <somsip> utsav: in user home, eg: ~/.bashrc
[07:18] <utsav> somsip: thank you so much
[07:24]  * pqbd_ the big D is silent, the little q makes alot of noise.
[07:39] <miklcct> Sorry I have missed the conversation before as I didn't set up quassel core
[07:39] <miklcct> What's the way to synchronise outlook.com contacts into Ubuntu?
[07:41] <somsip> miklcct: maybe check the logs as it's a bit old now.
[07:42] <somsip> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/01/26/%23ubuntu.txt
[07:50] <miklcct> What I googled on the web about Thunderbird and outlook.com and found a link: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1023409
[07:50] <miklcct> That means should I 1. Use another mail client, or 2. move all the contacts back to Google?
[07:53] <cyborg4> Hey everyone! Have a question about the command line. Is there any way to have a command that runs, and then as soon as it exits to start it again?
[07:54] <LMNOP> yea just run it again
[07:54] <Stanley00> cyborg4: or put it in while : loop
[07:55] <LMNOP> probably easier my way
[07:55] <somsip> cyborg4: yes, but to what end?
[07:55] <adrian_1908> wouldn't && work?
[07:56] <Stanley00> cyborg4: there's also watch command, if you need *watch* the output
[07:57] <cyborg4> I have a server program which is fairly prone to crashes. I just want it to run again when it terminates.
[07:57] <cyborg4> It'll run fine for hours on end, so I want it to happen programmatically so I don't have to sit there and watch it.
[07:57] <Stanley00> cyborg4: then just put it in a while loop
[07:57] <adrian_1908> infinite loop it is then :D
[07:58] <cyborg4> So, a while loop in an sh file would do the trick? it waits for command execution?
[07:58] <somsip> cyborg4: use a supervisor
[07:59] <somsip> !info supervisor | cyborg4
[07:59] <Stanley00> cyborg4: yep, something as *while : ; do your_command; done*, and when your_command finish/crash, it run your_command again
[07:59] <LMNOP> yeah ok well
[07:59] <somsip> cyborg4: eg, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-manage-supervisor-on-ubuntu-and-debian-vps
[07:59] <LMNOP> what if supervisor crashed
[08:00] <LMNOP> now your in same situation
[08:00] <somsip> LMNOP: applies to anything, so moot point. What if the server crashed? What if the network went down, etc etc ad nauseum
[08:01] <LMNOP> i guess you get my point yep
[08:01] <LMNOP> how do you know it is more likely his app will crash than supervisor
[08:02] <somsip> cyborg4: what server program is it that is prone to crashing? The last time I had that question, someone was running mysqld without enough RAM and was crashing due to OOM errors. Which showed the problem he was trying to solve was not the right problem to solve...
[08:02] <cyborg4> somsip: minetestserver
[08:03] <cyborg4> So this would work, yeah:
[08:03] <cyborg4> #!/bin/sh
[08:03] <cyborg4> while :
[08:03] <cyborg4> do
[08:03] <cyborg4>  /CarmaServ/bin/minetestserver
[08:03] <cyborg4> done
[08:03] <somsip> cyborg4: ok - no experience of that but if it's official I would imagine it should be robust so you may have another problem
[08:03] <LMNOP> youcould just restart the servier periodically
[08:03] <LMNOP> but whatevs
[08:04] <cyborg4> The server restarts every day automatically
[08:04] <somsip> cyborg4: so what is the real problem - crashes or daily restart?
[08:04] <cyborg4> Crashes. But they're caused by a known bug in the server software.
[08:06] <somsip> cyborg4: this would be more flexible. Set it up like this, and a cronjob to check the server is running or service restart. https://gist.github.com/MarkTraceur/998260
[08:07] <cyborg4> somsip: It's not a service at all, it's a binary
[08:07] <somsip> cyborg4: as above
[08:21] <liath> hey there.  could anyone tell me if it is possible to have two interfaces with the same gateway?  I know about all the quirks, but I'm doing it so I can seed linux images (and download a few more) but need to be able to use one NIC purely for torrent traffic
[08:22] <liath> that way i can catch it all and make sure it goes into a low priority queue on my router
[08:27] <shadows> This runs detached: ffmpeg -i [input] [parameters] -y [output] </dev/null >/dev/null 2> ffmpeg.log &
[08:27] <shadows> I want to remove the log file after ffmpeg is complete. The following will not detach. Any ways to do this on the command line without having lots of shell-scripts. ffmpeg -i [input] [parameters] -y [output] </dev/null >/dev/null 2> ffmpeg.log && rm ffmpeg.log &
[08:28] <shadows> I've tried wrapping it in parenthesis, didn't do any good.
[08:29] <somsip> shadows: wouldn't image && will work like that is it requires the output of the first to trigger the second, and you can't run the first in background with ffmpeg & && rm log for obvious reasons
[08:29] <somsip> *imagine
[08:30] <shadows> I see
[08:31] <decci> I am using Ubuntu 14.04 and I am trying to understand what is www-data all about?
[08:31] <somsip> decci: that's a statement rather than a question. what do you need to know
[08:32] <decci> somsip: If I want to upload a file with normal user, how will it get changed to www-data
[08:32] <afidegnum> hello, I have installed gmp and php5-gmp but I am still getting ... the requested PHP extension gmp is missing from your system
[08:32] <afidegnum> can anyone please help?
[08:33] <somsip> decci: add user to www-data group, make /var/www sticky for groups
[08:33] <somsip> decci: eg http://serverfault.com/questions/6895/whats-the-best-way-of-handling-permissions-for-apache2s-user-www-data-in-var
[08:33] <aeonltd> afidegnum: that's rather specific have you tried the php channel?
[08:33] <afidegnum> apt-get install php
[08:34] <afidegnum> oooh, sorry, I am just confused
[08:34] <decci> somsip: Thanks
[08:38] <silviu> Hi guys. there is any way I get gateway ip address and  dns ips with vsphere sdk?
[08:43] <decci> Any internet monitoring tool available for Linux e.g which user has consumed how many data based on ip address?
[08:44] <aeonltd> decci: i think if you could find something for your router that does that it may be more useful
[08:45] <aeonltd> decci: unless your pc is your router...
[08:45] <decci> aeonltd: Does it mean we dont have any avl tool..
[08:46] <decci> aeonltd: We have around 20 user. They have internet connection and we work based on firewall. I want to know who consumed how many data. based on client side activity how shall I check that or monitor that
[08:50] <agustin_mark_kev> hello on quick question how can i use gnu parallel and proz sorry for asking here
[08:50] <liath> decci, you'd have to have a good router. then soem decent monitoring tools, somethign like bandwidthd should work
[08:51] <agustin_mark_kev> i typed parallel proz "link here" but it says warning input is read from the terminal only experts do this on purpose press ctrl-d to exit
[08:51] <decci> liath: I am aware of bandwidthd but it shows the certain logs of users
[08:51] <aeonltd> decci: ok, unless traffic is run through your pc i don't think it's possible. but i'm kinda a noob at networking
[08:52] <agustin_mark_kev> i tried reading the man page but im quite confused
[08:52] <aeonltd> decci: you could monitor YOUR data, and collate data from all pcs using individual software. that sounds more possible
[08:52] <agustin_mark_kev> i read the wiki examples i cant understand
[08:52] <agustin_mark_kev> anyone please
[08:53] <JustSighDudes> jesus almost identified to nickserv here
[08:53] <liath> that is why I suggested running bandwithd on the router. you could then tell who uses how much data, when, etc
[08:55] <Ash12345>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Ash12345 hbspqjxlmfnn
[08:55] <liath> erm.  ash ^^^?
[08:55] <cfhowlett> Ash12345, thanks for the password, m8!
[08:56] <Ash12345> Hi Guys
[08:56] <aeonltd> oh boy
[08:58] <`hypermist`> how do i know if i have the right graphics card drivers
[08:58] <Ash12345> I have wordpress site .... I want to upload file in my web hosting directory with www-data user privilege
[08:58] <aeonltd> `hypermist`: well what card do you have?
[08:59] <`hypermist`> gts 450 nvidia
[08:59] <DJones> Ash12345: Just make sure you change that password that you've posted in the channel
[08:59] <`hypermist`> DJones, i decided to see if it was real
[08:59] <`hypermist`> i don't think it was
[08:59] <`hypermist`> cause i tried to do the good old ghost test
[08:59] <`hypermist`> xD
[08:59] <`hypermist`> not being mean but im just saying
[09:01] <`hypermist`> aeonltd, gts 450 nvidia. i couldn't use the .run file cause it would say X server running then Nouveau was stopping it after i stopped the X server
[09:04] <aeonltd> `hypermist`: i think you may need to uninstall nouveau first; nouveau is the open source nvidia driver
[09:05] <`hypermist`> i decided to use apt-get install nvidia-current in the end so idk if that done anything
[09:19] <el3> sources
[09:19] <el3> !sources
[09:22] <Guest96949> http://asperasoft.com/
[09:22] <Guest96949> interesting
[09:22] <Guest96949> i found that when searching for rsync errors
[09:22] <Guest96949> said 100x faster than rsync
[09:23] <sumeya> say some things
[09:23] <cfhowlett_> !ask | sumeya
[09:26] <abailarri> Hello. I created a daemon with upstart and I putted on /etc/init path. I started and when I execute initctl list | sort I see myservice stop/waiting, and I can't stop or restart
[09:26] <abailarri> Any suggestions please?
[09:28] <pseudonymous> OK - I'm struggling with ~/.xsession-errors eating up ALL available diskspace if I a) leave mumble running and b) have suspended at some point. - It keeps spawning pulseaudio related errors. Is there a way to just not have pulse or *anything* logging to .xsession-errors ? It can't be intended that the damned thing chugs through 74GB of space in the space of a few hours.
[09:29] <pseudonymous> abailarry: way too little information - you should probably paste your upstart script (paste.ubuntu.com). Even so, maybe you should just write a regular init script. Ubuntu will be switching to systemD soon anyway
[09:45] <MrN00Bs> is anyone using Macbook pro here ?
[09:45] <cfhowlett_> !mac | MrN00Bs,
[09:49] <doomlord_> ii am
[09:49] <MrN00Bs> doomlord_, which mac ?
[09:50] <doomlord_> but not wth ubuntu on it. (ubuntu on desktop).. MBPR 13" not iris pro, just base
[09:50] <MrN00Bs> doomlord_, PM ?
[09:51] <doomlord_> i'm not so gung ho about splitting the laptop ssd to install linux
[09:51] <doomlord_> sure PM
[09:51] <doomlord_> i would like to though if there's an ultra small distro
[09:52] <doomlord_> i frequently ssh into my desktop linux box, and use synergy between them
[09:52] <aeon-ltd> doomlord_: you can cut linux down to a few gb if you want
[09:53] <aeon-ltd> besides... VMs!!!!
[09:54] <doomlord_> supposedly one can run an xwindow server on the mac
[09:54] <doomlord_> and run a desktop machines' windows on the mac?
[09:54] <aeon-ltd> doomlord_: if you've got the x11 application
[09:54] <doomlord_> basically my reason for owning a mac is to actually run OSX (eg , ability to use iOS SDK)
[09:55] <aeon-ltd> doomlord_: i'm running arch in a VM now, just under 2GB storage space used
[09:55] <doomlord_> ok
[09:55] <doomlord_> heh i'm one of these people who wants to configure linux to be as much like the mac as possible
[09:56]  * EllieGoulding is running a hackintosh dual booted with Arch
[09:56] <doomlord_> i'm after the closest possible clone of mission-control (since mountain lion mission control is actually good)
[09:56] <doomlord_> but it makes less difference on a desktop machine.  Apple laptop & linux desktop is a nice combination
[09:58] <aeon-ltd> doomlord_: i think compiz had some feature that was like expose
[09:59] <doomlord_> its ok but on linux I gravitate back to simpler environments like XFCE/XFWM. the compiz stuff has all the eye candy, but i've never found it as satisfying as either snow leopard was, or as mission control is now
[09:59] <aeon-ltd> yeah if osx is anything it's elegant
[10:00] <EllieGoulding> eh yosemite looks cartoony :/
[10:00] <doomlord_> the magic is on a laptop: the trackpad gestures combined with the way missioncontrol behaves
[10:00] <EllieGoulding> mission control is nice, I have a hot corner that brings up all my desktops
[10:00] <aeon-ltd> EllieGoulding: they will learn, hopefully
[10:01] <EllieGoulding> along with being able to drag windows to another or make one on the fly
[10:01] <aeon-ltd> EllieGoulding: this could be their windows 8 lapse
[10:01] <EllieGoulding> well idk if its THAT bad lol
[10:01] <doomlord_> on a linux desktop I like the extra control you can get with a keyboard, and 'focus follows mouse', and use of scrollwheel for desktops (i've got scrollwheel on window title taking it between desktops)
[10:01] <EllieGoulding> though metro design == no design
[10:02] <aeon-ltd> i'm not sure why win8 is so hated though, the stuff they added doesn't kill the experience, but to non tablet users it's mostly just useless
[10:02] <EllieGoulding> I just hate windows
[10:02] <doomlord_> all the compiz stuff has never worked well on multiple monitors. (oh thats another thing missioncontrol does REALLY well now - desktops per monitor switched independantly)
[10:03] <EllieGoulding> though I think win8 is the best one out cuz it has slightly better performace and it doesnt remind me competely of windows 98
[10:03] <EllieGoulding> also they added some much needed stuff like a reset button, although kinda half baked
[10:05] <hiexpo> hello all
[10:08] <hiexpo> bazhang, holla
[10:20] <klxl> ?
[10:22] <klxl> 聊什么的地方
[10:22] <cfhowlett_> !vn | klxl
[10:23] <cfhowlett_> !cn
[10:23] <klxl> 。。。
[10:26] <klxl> 难道都是外国人？
[10:27] <cfhowlett_> !cn | klxl
[10:27] <klxl> Is the friends all over the world?
[10:28] <cfhowlett_> klxl, go to the china channel for support.  no google translate
[10:29] <klxl> ...La Lingua non è Buona, di difficoltà di comunicazione, Andiamo.
[10:30] <aeon-ltd> oh boy
[10:30] <aeon-ltd> !it
[10:30] <klxl> To understand boy
[10:30] <klxl> 。。。
[10:31] <aeon-ltd> entshuldigung, ich konnen verstehen nicht
[10:31] <aeon-ltd> klar?
[10:31] <cfhowlett_> aeon-ltd, stop please.  don't encourage/feed
[10:32] <aeon-ltd> ok
[11:02] <l0cal> can someone help me ,i have a problem ,posted question on askubuntu but no solution . Can someone help me ?
[11:02] <cfhowlett> !ask | l0cal
[11:04] <l0cal> OK, sorry and thanks . My problem started after i rebooted my pc from the terminal , not doing any upgrades ,just a simple reboot , i saw some warning about low space on the home folder nothing else but i think it is unlikely that this is the problem . My computer booted just fine ,but when i type my login password it freezes and nothing happens . I can't acces tty shell with CTRL+ALT+F(1...6) ,when i do this sometimes it loads all tha
[11:04] <cfhowlett> l0cal, you ... ignored a warning message about storage space?
[11:05] <l0cal> the login screen and freezes , i managed to get to a login in tty once put after i type my password it reloading the login screen . I have installed on this machine a fluxbox windows manager and i could login there , and list my files and did some commands i saw on related
[11:05] <l0cal> problem posts , don't know if it's stupid or not .. tried reinstall ubuntu-desktop , unity what . nothing works for me ..
[11:05] <l0cal> yes i did that
[11:06] <cfhowlett> l0cal, when the /boot gets tool full of old kernels, what you describe is common.
[11:06] <l0cal> i saw a warning relating low space on home directory
[11:06] <l0cal> i don't know why i can't acces tty shell
[11:07] <cfhowlett> l0cal, :)  sounds fixable.
[11:08] <l0cal> don't know what to do to acces my machine and all my files .. i'm afraid not to lose some of my files , firefox tabs ..
[11:08] <Swft> how to compile an .exe using gcc on linux?
[11:08] <Swft> COMP=mingw doesn't build an .exe
[11:09] <cfhowlett> l0cal, boot from ubuntu USB.  mount hdd.  clear cruft.
[11:10] <l0cal> won't lose my data  on that partition ?
[11:10] <cfhowlett> l0cal, delete FILES not partitions ...
[11:10] <Swft> cfhowlett; do you have any idea?
[11:11] <cfhowlett> Swft, nope.  when I know nothing, I try not to comment.
[11:11] <cfhowlett> sorry
[11:11] <Swft> cfhowlett; you gotta know somethin'
[11:11] <cfhowlett> Swft, your issue?  false.  flattering but ... no.
[11:12] <Swft> cfhowlett; do you use Ubuntu?
[11:12] <cfhowlett> Swft, all the time.
[11:13] <Swft> cfhowlett, which version?
[11:13] <l0cal> cfhowlett why do you think i can't acces tty  ?
[11:13] <cfhowlett> Swft, I know nothing about your issue, so can't help.  sorry.
[11:13] <geirha> ##workingset might be able to help with cross compiling
[11:13] <cfhowlett> l0cal, overfilled /boot would do that.
[11:14] <l0cal> so you say by booting an ubuntu usb i could manage space ?
[11:14] <l0cal> how could i do that
[11:14] <cfhowlett> l0cal, boot usb.  mount hdd.  delete files - carefully and selectively.
[11:15] <cfhowlett> l0cal, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/removing-old-kernels
[11:16] <l0cal> thanks i read this
[11:18] <cfhowlett> l0cal, alternative: boot the usb, mount the hdd, chroot to the file system and use terminal commands to clean kernels.  (actually safer than my initial suggestion)
[11:19] <l0cal> the solution of the problem overwhelms me
[11:19] <l0cal> preetty noob
[11:19] <l0cal> but i'll try ..
[11:20] <cfhowlett> l0cal, this one.  ask for more guided assistance.  I've never chrooted.  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/proper-way-to-remove-old-linux-kernels/
[11:20] <xubuntu616> starting 14.04.1 upgrade. connected as edman747 on the other computer
[11:21] <l0cal> so you think that old kernels images have overflowed the boot directory memory ?
[11:22] <mehdip2007> hi guys how can i change the color of my selected line?
[11:30] <minimec> mehdip2007: If I understand you correctly, this would be part of the theme settings.
[11:30] <mehdip2007> exactly for example when i select something it become blue but i want to be orange
[11:30] <mehdip2007> minimec, i donno where can i change it
[11:31] <imagecreative> hello
[11:31] <imagecreative> someone know if xubuntu have spy programs like ubuntu?
[11:31] <MACscr> does ubuntu 14.04 generate 70-persistent-net.rules by default? I know it at least a release or so ago it didnt generate one
[11:32] <k1l> imagecreative: neither xubuntu nor ubuntu do have spy programs included
[11:32] <minimec> mehdip2007: look here... http://askubuntu.com/questions/63126/how-do-i-change-the-selected-items-color
[11:33] <imagecreative> what about canonical?
[11:33] <iptable> imagecreative, programs which auto-search your search string in amazon and other locations for you are hardly "spy" features ...
[11:33] <cfhowlett> imagecreative, canonical doesn't have "spy" programs
[11:33] <iptable> imagecreative, and you can disable that feature if you don't want that in the settings.
[11:33] <imagecreative> they are taking information
[11:33] <k1l> imagecreative: what about what? you read some FUD
[11:34] <k1l> imagecreative: can you give some facts and not some missinformations?
[11:34] <cfhowlett> imagecreative, no FUD please.  if you don't want, disable or install a different buntu
[11:34] <iptable> imagecreative, either canonical nor ubuntu have spy software installed to let anyone spy on you. It's oensource, so if you don't believe, read the code
[11:35] <somsip> !adlens | imagecreative
[11:35] <iptable> imagecreative, who is taking what information? Please provide details/prove. Or is this something you hae heard from centos/fedora/arch fansbois?
[11:35] <es-em> Hi everybody :) I need some help with a terminal command I am using inside a python program I wrote. Somebody feels like helping me?
[11:35] <k1l> imagecreative: if you talk about the amazon lense, that is shut down since months and will not send any data.
[11:35] <imagecreative> is not about believe or know
[11:35] <imagecreative> i am asking because i dont know
[11:35] <iptable> imagecreative, cool. and you got your answer.
[11:35] <imagecreative> thank oyu
[11:35] <cfhowlett> imagecreative, the answer to your question: NO
[11:35] <imagecreative> you
[11:36] <iptable> no problem
[11:36] <iptable> cfhowlett, do you ever sleep? ;)
[11:36] <cfhowlett> iptable, China standard time m8
[11:36] <iptable> ah
[11:37] <iptable> that explains a lot ;)
[11:37] <SnoRider> Hello, I'm trying to download  BitchX-1.2c01-svn but it isn't found, do I need to download an apt-get search location?  I believe it's development.
[11:37] <k1l> !info bitchx
[11:37] <geirha> Oh, someone's revived BitchX?
[11:38] <SnoRider> Yes, it's ipv6 compatible now
[11:38] <iptable> SnoRider, you mean compile? apt-get won't install stuff that's not in the repos.
[11:38] <k1l> SnoRider: its not included in ubuntu repos. so see their webpage on how to install that
[11:39] <SnoRider> Ah, I thought it might be on one of the devel repos
[11:39] <SnoRider> Thanks
[11:39] <iptable> !info info
[11:40] <iptable> cool
[11:49] <wentian> how install flash for firefox
[11:49] <cfhowlett> !flash | wentian
[11:50] <`hypermist`> how to know if. ubuntu is blocking something from allowing incomming and out going connections ?
[11:50] <k1l> `hypermist`: in general: if you dont have a program listening on a port there is no incoming on that port.
[11:51] <wentian> i intall flash soft center ,but it now work
[11:51] <`hypermist`> but thing is. bitcoin wallet lets say it needs to connect to peers to sync, but that isnt happening
[11:51] <`hypermist`> its not connecting to peers
[11:51] <`hypermist`> so something is blocking connections
[11:51] <wentian> not work with firefox
[11:52] <`hypermist`> so thatas my issue k1l
[11:53] <`hypermist`> s/thatas/that
[11:53] <wentian> i install xubuntu on my old thinkpad
[11:54] <wentian> exit
[11:55] <wentian> i live in shanghai, where r u
[11:55] <cfhowlett> !ot | wentian,
[11:56] <wentian> ok
[11:56] <wentian> my flash is not work
[11:56] <wentian> other is ok
[11:57] <`hypermist`> k1l, ?
[11:57] <k1l> `hypermist`: so what errors do you get? needs that some special network setup? does the router block connections?....
[11:59] <`hypermist`> k1l, no error, it worked before i coverted to linux
[12:00] <k1l> `hypermist`: what program is it?
[12:00] <`hypermist`> its a bitcoin wallet basically
[12:00] <`hypermist`> but its called neoscoin
[12:00] <k1l> `hypermist`: what ubuntu exact? can you start it from terminal and see if there is an error?
[12:00] <`hypermist`> 14.04
[12:01] <`hypermist`> hypermist@hypermist-PC:~$ neos start
[12:01] <`hypermist`> Starting Neos
[12:01] <`hypermist`> NeosCoin server starting
[12:01] <`hypermist`>  all i get k1l
[12:01] <k1l> `hypermist`: "my car is somewhat broken, fix it" "what is broken" "something on my car"  how are we supposed to fix it if we dont know what you do and what you get at all?
[12:01] <`hypermist`> thats all i get no errors :|
[12:01] <`hypermist`> it just doesn't connect to the peers on the outside world. ? is firewall blocking the app from doing so ?
[12:02] <Gandiashore> Que pasa nanoooooooooooos
[12:02] <Gandiashore> unos crossy roads hay buenos?
[12:02] <k1l> no, its not blocking per default.
[12:02] <cfhowlett> !es | Gandiashore
[12:02] <Gandiashore> ok ok
[12:02] <Gandiashore> COME ON NANOOOOOOOOOS
[12:02] <GatoLoko> Gandiashore: do not write in all caps, it is against the rules. Next time you will be expelled.
[12:02] <Gandiashore> THis night, 23.00
[12:03] <`hypermist`> k1l, cause i can tell you it worked on windows. and i have a vps running the exact same version. but without gui
[12:03] <cfhowlett> zero tolerance for zero manners.  I like.
[12:03] <MACscr> I hate to reask this question, but does ubuntu 14.04 generate 70-persistent-net.rules by default? I know it at least a release or so ago it didnt generate one
[12:04] <MACscr> i have one on my system, but with ethX interface names versus biosdevnames
[12:04] <k1l> `hypermist`: windows got nothing to do with it now. i dont kanow that program and what setup it needs. so maybe you have a better chance for a solution if you ask the program coder for help
[12:04] <MACscr> so im just trying to figure out why
[12:04] <`hypermist`> k1l,  but thing is why would it work on my linux vps same version. but not my linux home pc ?
[12:05] <k1l> `hypermist`: vps got a totally differen network setup.
[12:05] <k1l> `hypermist`: please ask neoscoin guys what setup they need and if that is a known issue.
[12:06] <`hypermist`> that i can do but. i cannot expect a reply till like 3-4am my time
[12:06] <`hypermist`> lol
[12:06] <k1l> `hypermist`: #neoscoin exists
[12:06] <`hypermist`> k1l,  there is a .sh file on the website @ neoscoin.com
[12:06] <`hypermist`> and yes  i know k1l but dev is asleep
[12:08] <TheBigDeal> Hello
[12:09] <TheBigDeal> How can i disable the Extras repositories when doing release upgrades?
[12:10] <k1l> TheBigDeal: comment them in the /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:10] <k1l> make a # in front of the lines there
[12:10] <TheBigDeal> k1l, i got a temporary file
[12:11] <TheBigDeal> k1l, /var/tmp/sourcesXXZWT7bJ.list
[12:12] <k1l> TheBigDeal: ?
[12:12] <TheBigDeal> k1l, i don't know
[12:12] <fattest>  for a small web hosting company (that i want to start) (hosted with ubuntu 12.04 server) what internet speed do you need to satisfy users?
[12:13] <tomodachi> fattest: depends on the user, and what kind of content the user wants to provide through the web page
[12:13] <fattest> tomodachi: no its a web hosting company via FTP
[12:13] <fattest> so there will be lot of users
[12:13] <fattest> static html/php pages will be transferred
[12:14] <k1l> TheBigDeal: so what is the issue with commenting out the extra repos in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[12:14] <TheBigDeal> k1l, i can comment them, but i was not sure about that temporary file
[12:15] <`hypermist`> TheBigDeal, he said /etc/apt
[12:15] <`hypermist`> not /var/tmp
[12:15] <k1l> TheBigDeal: i dont know what you want with that file in /var/tmp
[12:15] <TheBigDeal> hydrajump, yes it is redirecting to it
[12:15] <TheBigDeal> o.O
[12:15] <ciscam> hi! can somebody tell me why this works fine when i open the script class file via console but not when i compile it as a jar? http://pastebin.com/5TTXkk7v
[12:16] <ciscam> the jar wont create a text file, the class file does
[12:16] <TheBigDeal> fattest, btw, your question is really weird, not sure but you need to provide the fastest internet speed to your server to satisfy your users
[12:17] <TheBigDeal> k1l, your file is redirecting to that file in the /var/tmp
[12:17] <fattest> TheBigDeal: i get around 7mbps on speedtest.net
[12:17] <fattest> if i have like 300 users, will that be enough?
[12:17] <k1l> TheBigDeal: what system is that?
[12:17] <TheBigDeal> k1l, 14.10
[12:17] <k1l> what exactly?
[12:18] <TheBigDeal> k1l, Ubuntu
[12:18] <TheBigDeal> k1l, btw, it works
[12:18] <k1l> TheBigDeal: please show in a pastebin: "lsb_release -a", "uname -a" and "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:19] <TheBigDeal> fattest, It depends on your server, and what you will provide
[12:20] <fattest> TheBigDeal: i'll allow them to host web sites - HTML/PHP pages
[12:20] <TheBigDeal> fattest, web hosting?
[12:20] <fattest> yes
[12:21] <TheBigDeal> fattest, hmm, I'm not sure about that, that has nothing to do with Ubuntu server, try to google that to figure out how much internet speed do you need
[12:21] <fattest> ok
[12:21] <TheBigDeal> fattest, for a web hosting server of course
[12:22] <fattest> ok
[12:22] <Ben64> could probably ask in #ubuntu-offtopic but i'll save you the trouble. 7mbit is way too slow
[12:23] <TheBigDeal> k1l, Everything is okay now, thanks, i know that things are messy a bit ;)
[12:24] <TheBigDeal> Ben64, ++, i would say that
[12:24] <fattest> Ben64: what should i be getting?
[12:24] <Ben64> #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to have a discussion
[12:25] <adac> Guys how can I mount an encrpted home directory? Currently tried this: ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase /media/username/763e53fe-cce3-4fe6-ab5d-50426cbd408e/home/.ecryptfs/usernam/.Private but it doesn't seem to work. I get: "Error: Unwrapping passphrase failed"
[12:25] <k1l> fattest: that heavily depends on the services running on the server and the amount of users connecting to them. but hardwaretalk and "what to buy" questions are better suited into #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:25] <adac> hmm actually I wanted not to use the passphrase but my login password
[12:26] <TheBigDeal> k1l, it's a web hosting server
[12:27] <`hypermist`> k1l, its got to be on my end
[12:27] <`hypermist`> cause i even just copied the whole source files from my vps and its still not connecting to anyone
[12:28] <aphorise> In trusty I have all 4x universe "deb + deb src" in my /etc/apt/sources.list & have done "apt-get update" - but whatever I try to install from universe repo's it say's unable to find.
[12:28] <aphorise> What am I be missing?
[12:28] <k1l> `hypermist`: that program is not in the repos. so better ask their support what you need to do to make it run. just ask in their channel or forum
[12:29] <k1l> aphorise: what program?
[12:30] <aphorise> k1l  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=haproxyctl -
[12:31] <aphorise> oh sorry my bad thats in vivid only
[12:31] <k1l> aphorise: yep, vivid only.
[12:37] <mehdip2007> guys i change my theme and now my sound indicator has no buttoms
[12:47] <adac> Looks like this is the problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/1028532
[12:49] <apg___> Hello
[12:52] <kaabe> Hi! I have a crontab entry which stores stout and sterr to the same file (`/usr/local/bin/rsync-nfs.sh >> /var/log/rsync/rsync.log 2>&1`). How can I send sterr to a separate file, while still keeping both sterr+stout in one file?
[12:57] <Tzunamii> kaabe: Using the command 'tee'. Loads of info on the Net regarding it. This is an example: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/692000/how-do-i-write-stderr-to-a-file-while-using-tee-with-a-pipe
[12:58] <kaabe> Tzunamii: that should do, thanks!
[13:01] <kaabe> It makes sense to use tee in this case, just to newb to think of that. ;)
[13:02] <stemid> where does ubuntu mount webdav shares when I use connect to server in the gui? I want to run grep commands on the files that I mounted but I can only see them in Nautilus and not in mount(8) output.
[13:02] <Zeljko> What is the system requirements for latest Ubuntu version ?
[13:02] <tomodachi> Zeljko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[13:03] <k1l> stemid: it uses gvfs. see under /media/username/
[13:03] <stemid> I think you mean /run/media but no it's not there. I'm running find on / to find it now.
[13:04] <k1l> stemid: no i dont mean /run/media i mean /media/username
[13:04] <stemid> I found it under /run/user/1000/gvfs
[13:04] <stemid> /run/media is otherwise where stuff gets mounted automatically by gnome in ubuntu for me.
[13:04] <stemid> eh sorry, I'm in the wrong channel. my home desktop runs ubuntu, this is my laptop with fedora. haha
[13:04] <stemid> my bad
[13:04] <Tzunamii> >.>
[13:04] <stemid> but I found the path anyways
[13:04] <k1l> :/
[13:06] <quackgyver> Hey. My dedicated Ubuntu desktop comp broke, so I bought an identical one and put the old HDD in it
[13:06] <quackgyver> but the BIOS cant find a bootable device
[13:06] <quackgyver> or w/e
[13:06] <quackgyver> i tried to follow instructions on repairing the grub but nothing seemed to really work
[13:06] <quackgyver> i kept getting weird errors so
[13:06] <quackgyver> does anyone know what i can do?
[13:08] <EriC^^> quackgyver: do you have a live usb?
[13:08] <quackgyver> EriC^^: Yep!!
[13:08] <EriC^^> ok! load it up!
[13:08] <quackgyver> Ok, one sec
[13:08] <quackgyver> It's gonna take a good few mins, so ill highlight you when its done
[13:10] <EriC^^> ok
[13:15] <muazzam> Hello
[13:16] <quackgyver> EriC^^: "Try Ubuntu" right?
[13:17] <EriC^^> yeah
[13:17] <quackgyver> Aight, a few more mins
[13:18] <TheNumb> Ubuntu, not even once.
[13:19] <quackgyver> EriC^^: aight im in!
[13:19] <quackgyver> any suggestions?
[13:19] <EriC^^> ok, type ls -ld /sys/firmware/efi
[13:20] <EriC^^> is it found?
[13:20] <bonhoeffer> i’m trying to touch a file in this directory: drwxrwxr-x 11 www-data www-data 4096 Jan 26 07:21 plugins — my username “tim” is a member of www-data, i get permission denied
[13:20] <EriC^^> bonhoeffer: did you just add him to the group?
[13:20] <bonhoeffer> yes
[13:21] <bonhoeffer> reload bash?
[13:21] <EriC^^> try to logout and log back in
[13:21] <quackgyver> EriC^^: its just loading
[13:21] <quackgyver> blinking marker
[13:21] <quackgyver> oh there we go
[13:21] <EriC^^> ok
[13:21] <quackgyver> no command found
[13:21] <quackgyver> is that a lowercase L in ld?
[13:21] <EriC^^> no command or no file found?
[13:21] <EriC^^> yes
[13:21] <quackgyver> sorry i forgot the ls
[13:21] <quackgyver> it says "cannot access" etc
[13:21] <bonhoeffer> EriC^^: works
[13:21] <quackgyver> "no such file or directory"
[13:22] <pratik> Hi
[13:22] <EriC^^> bonhoeffer: ok
[13:22] <bonhoeffer> thanks
[13:22] <EriC^^> quackgyver: ok type sudo parted -l , paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[13:22] <EriC^^> bonhoeffer: no problem :)
[13:23] <pratik> For torrent Your Ubuntu says -> " Can't get transmission to download to a location on the mounted drive...."
[13:23] <pratik> I thought ubuntu is good OS
[13:23] <quackgyver> EriC^^: loading, one moment
[13:23] <jatt> you thought correctly
[13:23] <TheNumb> pratik: what file systemd?
[13:23] <TheNumb> file system*
[13:23] <TheNumb> lol
[13:23] <TheNumb> :D
[13:24] <TheNumb> too.much.lennart.
[13:25] <quackgyver> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/v48RkGnD
[13:25] <pratik> File system in Ubuntu 10.04 TLS
[13:25] <TheNumb> pratik: no, the file system of the drive.
[13:25] <pratik> donno
[13:25] <TheNumb> ...
[13:26] <TheNumb> pratik: yet you're complaining it doesn't work.
[13:26] <EriC^^> quackgyver: ok, it looks like the installation was out of an efi machine
[13:26] <TheNumb> pratik: please paste mount to paste.ubuntu.com
[13:26] <EriC^^> quackgyver: you're currently booted in legacy mode on the live usb
[13:26] <quackgyver> EriC^^: Yeah
[13:26] <TheNumb> output of "mount"
[13:26] <EriC^^> quackgyver: does your pc have uefi?
[13:27] <TheNumb> EriC^^: modprobing efivars should do in that case.
[13:27] <TheNumb> I'd think.
[13:27] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:27] <quackgyver> EriC^^: Yeah on my original computer I installed it with UEFI enabled, but then it turned out that i had to disable it in favor of legacy because Ubuntu wouldn't even run otherwise
[13:27] <TheNumb> BluesKaj: hiya.
[13:27] <quackgyver> so I enabled legacy, updated the bios
[13:27] <pratik> How to get mount info
[13:27] <quackgyver> it wouldnt boot
[13:27] <quackgyver> then i reset all bios settings
[13:27] <TheNumb> pratik: open the terminal and type in mount.
[13:27] <quackgyver> and suddenly it worked
[13:27] <quackgyver> then the computer broke, so i switched it for this one
[13:27] <quackgyver> and just swapped the hdd
[13:27] <quackgyver> thats the story :)
[13:28] <Tzunamii> pratik: sudo mount|column -t
[13:28] <EriC^^> quackgyver: ok, it's installed in uefi mode still
[13:29] <quackgyver> EriC^^: Do I need to reinstall it without UEFI turned on?
[13:29] <EriC^^> quackgyver: you need to either switch uefi on, and fix a couple stuff
[13:29] <quackgyver> EriC^^: If I turn it on it won't find Ubuntu
[13:29] <quackgyver> so I need to fix some stuff :p
[13:29] <stuff1> EriC^^, still going strong my friend?!
[13:29] <EriC^^> quackgyver: it will be easy
[13:29] <EriC^^> stuff1: ?
[13:29] <quackgyver> Okay cool
[13:30] <stuff1> oops,
[13:30] <EriC^^> ah, hey :D
[13:30] <bruxC> must have gotten disconnected last night.
[13:30] <bruxC> Hey man, thanks again for your help.
[13:30] <EriC^^> quackgyver: enable uefi and boot the usb in uefi mode
[13:30] <bruxC> It's working like a champ. I'm a little bummed out that I couldn't figure out the problem myself.
[13:30] <pratik> http://pastebin.com/FiTLwrCs
[13:31] <EriC^^> bruxC: great, no problem man
[13:31] <quackgyver> EriC^^: when you say boot the usb in uefi mode, youre basically just talking about rebooting with the usb stick in and uefi enabled
[13:31] <quackgyver> rather than legacy, yeah?
[13:32] <EriC^^> quackgyver: yeah
[13:32] <quackgyver> aight
[13:32] <EriC^^> quackgyver: if you do get a boot options menu with 2 usb modes choose uefi
[13:32] <quackgyver> one moment
[13:32] <quackgyver> aight
[13:33] <Mageia> 第一次来，这个怎么用呢
[13:35] <pratik> http://pastebin.com/FiTLwrCs
[13:35] <pratik> Please check
[13:35] <habash> Guys I have only 4.7GB avalible on my machine, is it enough to install Ubuntu on VB?
[13:35] <tomodachi> habash: yes
[13:36] <jatt> what is vb
[13:36] <habash> tomodachi, how much space does the fresh install usually take?
[13:36] <habash> jatt, virtualbox
[13:36] <quackgyver> EriC^^: Ok now it booted up GRUB booter
[13:37] <EriC^^> great and odd
[13:37] <quackgyver> "Try Ubuntu without installing" / "Install Ubuntu" / "OEM install" / "Check disc for defects"
[13:37] <quackgyver> First option yeah?
[13:37] <EriC^^> quackgyver: oh ok, i thought it found the installation :D
[13:37] <EriC^^> yeah
[13:37] <quackgyver> ah no
[13:37] <quackgyver> but
[13:37] <quackgyver> thats what happened the first time
[13:37] <jatt> is a little tight if your home partition is in the same as the / partition
[13:37] <quackgyver> i put in the usb stick and suddenly it found the hdd os
[13:37] <quackgyver> o_o
[13:37] <jatt> 10gb to be on the safe side
[13:37] <quackgyver> anyway ok
[13:37] <minimec> habash: According to the 'minimal requirements' page, the graphical installer will fail... (needs 5GB) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[13:38] <lion123> yo
[13:38] <lion123> how could i install ubuntu on my window7
[13:39] <lion123> 64 bits
[13:39] <tomodachi> minimec: habash well that wiki page does mention three differnt ram requirements, so it seems quite inconclusive. I successfully ran ubuntu 14.04 on 4 gigs
[13:39] <jagat> download iso file from www.ubuntu.com
[13:40] <habash> minimec, I don't care for the GUI, how can I install it without the GUI?
[13:40] <habash> tomodachi, 4 gigs or ram? or 4 gigs of hdd?
[13:40] <jatt> install the ubuntu server iso
[13:40] <lion123> ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64 i have that
[13:40] <lion123> but i dont hve a usb
[13:40] <tomodachi> habash: ram
[13:40] <EriC^^> habash: minimal cd
[13:40] <lion123> pendrive
[13:40] <jatt> nope  not that one, the server one
[13:40] <EriC^^> !minimalcd | habash
[13:41] <habash> thanks EriC^^
[13:41] <minimec> habash: It's all on that page...
[13:41] <habash> minimec, thanks man well do
[13:42] <lion123> i can i install that without connecting internet
[13:42] <lion123> my internet is slow
[13:42] <EriC^^> quackgyver: did it load?
[13:43] <lion123> its showing 2 hours
[13:49] <makara> hi. Common problem I'm sure, what should I do with "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory"?
[13:49] <EriC^^> makara: what are you trying to compile?
[13:49] <makara> im following http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=224
[13:49] <EriC^^> !find makemkv
[13:50] <quackgyver> EriC^^: hey sorry my boss called
[13:50] <quackgyver> just one minute, terribly sorry
[13:50] <EriC^^> quackgyver: no worries
[13:52] <makara> EriC^^: ok. I'm sorted. I dont know what I thought
[13:52] <quackgyver> EriC^^: Ok I'm in :)
[13:52] <quackgyver> Loaded faster this time too
[13:54] <EriC^^> quackgyver: ok, cool
[13:54] <EriC^^> quackgyver: type sudo parted -l and paste in paste.ubuntu.com again
[13:54] <EriC^^> quackgyver: is it a 64bit machine?
[13:54] <quackgyver> EriC^^: yep
[13:55] <EriC^^> ok
[13:55] <quackgyver> pasting
[13:56] <quackgyver> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/f3i8pmc1
[13:57] <EriC^^> quackgyver: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[13:57] <EriC^^> quackgyver: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[13:57] <EriC^^> for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[13:58] <EriC^^> type those 3 commands ^^
[13:59] <Esor> do you like ubuntu-gnome?
[14:01] <i0d9i20> so how well does Ubuntu perform on a Windows Surface tablet?
[14:02] <the-solipsist> Hello. I have a WD My Cloud NAS attached over ethernet to an OpenWrt router. I've enabled NFS on the NAS. I'm not sure what my firewall settings on the OpenWrt router should be.
[14:02] <the-solipsist> All the settings I see on http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/nfs.server assume that the router itself will be the NFS server.
[14:02] <the-solipsist> Is there anyone here who speaks iptables? :)
[14:04] <Tzunamii> I think it's much easier if you describe what you want done
[14:05] <the-solipsist> Tzunamii: I want to be able to connect from my laptop to the NAS using NFS.
[14:05] <Tzunamii> You just want to punch some holes, is that it?
[14:06] <the-solipsist> Yes. I want to know the correct netfilter/iptables settings.
[14:06] <O_OniGiri> Hi there, can I ask cronjob related questions in this channel?
[14:06] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: yeah
[14:06] <EriC^^> go for it..
[14:07] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: Ok... I am trying to get cronjob working with notify-send, I read on google many people asking this, but no solution worked for me :(
[14:07] <EriC^^> what are you adding?
[14:07] <quackgyver> ok EriC^^
[14:07] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: What do you mean?
[14:07] <quackgyver> typed in those 3 commands
[14:07] <EriC^^> try DISPLAY=:0 notify-send <something>
[14:07] <quackgyver> took a while cus the keyboard layout wasnt in my native language
[14:07] <quackgyver> what do i do now?
[14:07] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: in crontab -e , what's the command you're using?
[14:08] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: Already tried that one
[14:08] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: one second trying something
[14:09] <O_OniGiri> * * * * * DISPLAY=:0 notify-send "Hello world!"
[14:09] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: Btw, I am using xubuntu
[14:09] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: it works
[14:09] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: for me it doesnt :(
[14:09] <jatt> put it in a shell script
[14:09] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: is the cron running? type tailf /var/log/syslog
[14:10] <EriC^^> see if it runs
[14:10] <tga> greetings. I have a server that hangs on boot on random: nonblocking pool is initialized. any ideas?
[14:10] <O_OniGiri> jatt: Also tried to put DISPLAY:=0 in script
[14:10] <tga> I found a bunch of forum posts on this, but no answers
[14:10] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: it runs, because I am echoing some test text to a file
[14:10] <jatt> should be DISPLAY=:0.0
[14:10] <EriC^^> quackgyver: type sudo chroot /mnt
[14:10] <O_OniGiri> jatt: I will try
[14:11] <O_OniGiri> jatt: like this? #!/bin/bash  DISPLAY=:0.0
[14:11] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: try * * * * * DISPLAY=:0 xclock
[14:11] <jatt> put the whole thing in the shell script (including the notify-send stuff)
[14:11] <EriC^^> there's no need for the script
[14:11] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: what does xclock do?
[14:12] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: it works :P
[14:12] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: but it does not for notify :(
[14:12] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: ok, try notify-send in a terminal
[14:12] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: that works
[14:12] <quackgyver> EriC^^: done
[14:13] <EriC^^> hmm try DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal -e "notify-send 'hello ...'"
[14:13] <EriC^^> quackgyver: sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed
[14:13] <EriC^^> quackgyver: no need for sudo
[14:14] <quackgyver> all that sans the sudo?
[14:14] <EriC^^> quackgyver: oui :P
[14:14] <quackgyver> aight :3
[14:14] <quackgyver> aight
[14:14] <quackgyver> its installing
[14:14] <O_OniGiri> gnome terminal is not installed
[14:15] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: O.o
[14:15] <EriC^^> oh wait
[14:15] <EriC^^> which de are you using?
[14:15] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: I do not know what terminal xubuntu uses
[14:15] <EriC^^> i think it's xfce-terminal or something
[14:15] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, exactly
[14:16] <quackgyver> EriC^^: its done, no error reported :3
[14:16] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: thanks
[14:16] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: yeah, xfce4-terminal
[14:16] <EriC^^> quackgyver: grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[14:16] <EriC^^> quackgyver: update-grub
[14:17] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: any luck?
[14:18] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: waiting...
[14:18] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: it starts up an empty terminal, but does nothing
[14:18] <EriC^^> try adding -x before -e
[14:18] <quackgyver> EriC^^: aight done. no errors reported
[14:19] <EriC^^> quackgyver: efibootmgr -v , paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[14:19] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: you mean this: * * * * * DISPLAY=:0 xfce4-terminal -x -e "notify-send 'test'" ?
[14:19] <EriC^^> yeah
[14:19] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: open a terminal and test it out
[14:20] <EriC^^> type xfce4-terminal -x -e .... see if opens another and notify works
[14:20] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: not working with -x
[14:21] <quackgyver> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/EmPmH4Jv
[14:21] <EriC^^> maybe -x instead of -e ?
[14:22] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: not working
[14:23] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: ok try xterm -e notify-send bla
[14:23] <EriC^^> the bla is very important
[14:23] <EriC^^> :P
[14:23] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: sarcasm or not? :P
[14:23] <O_OniGiri> in terminal it works
[14:23] <EriC^^> j/k
[14:23] <O_OniGiri> lets see if cron will do it
[14:23] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: ok
[14:24] <EriC^^> quackgyver: type exit
[14:24] <EriC^^> quackgyver: try to restart
[14:24] <O_OniGiri> need DISPLAY=:0 ?
[14:24] <EriC^^> exit first
[14:24] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: yes
[14:26] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: it's not working :(
[14:26] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: hmm
[14:26] <EriC^^> do you have postfix installed by any chance?
[14:26] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: what is postfix?
[14:27] <`hypermist`> lol i can't run NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-346.35.run
[14:27] <`hypermist`> cause i have an x server running and then when i fix that issue
[14:27] <`hypermist`> i get a Nouveau error
[14:27] <`hypermist`> Lol
[14:27] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: it's for mail, cron sends the output of the commands to your mail
[14:27] <k1l> `hypermist`: why do you want to install the website driver and not use the ubuntu nvidia driver?
[14:28] <`hypermist`> cause its dun goofing k1l
[14:28] <k1l> ?
[14:28] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: i dont think I have installed something like that
[14:28] <`hypermist`> Youtube videos are lagging
[14:28] <`hypermist`> They never lag
[14:28] <`hypermist`> Lol
[14:28] <`hypermist`> This gpu im using is perfect. lel
[14:28] <`hypermist`> thats why k1l
[14:29] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: ok, try DISPLAY=:0 notify-send "hello.." > ~/cronlog 2>&1
[14:29] <k1l> `hypermist`: what driver did you use?
[14:29] <EriC^^> after it runs check what's in ~/cronlog
[14:29] <`hypermist`> i just did apt-get install nvidia-current k1l
[14:29] <Sry-Im-new-here> #roguelike
[14:30] <k1l> please show "dpgk -l | grep nvidia" in a pastebin service please
[14:30] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: will do
[14:30] <Sry-Im-new-here> ^c
[14:30] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: itś empty
[14:30] <quackgyver> EriC^^: with the stick in?
[14:30] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: type tail /var/log/syslog
[14:30] <quackgyver> or running from hdd
[14:30] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: is there anything about the cronjob?
[14:31] <EriC^^> quackgyver: restart and boot from the hdd
[14:31] <quackgyver> EriC^^: will do
[14:31] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: CMD (DISPLAY=:0 notify-send "hello.." > ~/cronlog 2>&1)
[14:31] <`hypermist`> It says No command 'dpgk' found, did you mean:
[14:31] <`hypermist`>  Command 'dpkg' from package 'dpkg' (main)
[14:31] <`hypermist`> dpgk: command not found
[14:31] <`hypermist`>  k1l
[14:32] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: if you type mail, do you get anything?
[14:32] <`hypermist`> but it is installed k1l
[14:32] <k1l> please show "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" in a pastebin service please (sorry had a typo)
[14:32] <the-solipsist> hydrajump: "dpkg", not "dpgk"
[14:32] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: I get a message saying: No mail for ...
[14:32] <k1l> !paste | `hypermist`
[14:32] <`hypermist`> im tired
[14:32] <`hypermist`> lol
[14:33] <Parity> Question: Doesn't "./scriptname" do the same as "sh scriptname.sh" in ubuntu?
[14:33] <the-solipsist> Gah, that was meant for `hypermist`, not hydrajump.
[14:33] <`hypermist`> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9882680/
[14:33] <`hypermist`> the-solipsist, i knew it was pointed at me
[14:33] <`hypermist`> Haha
[14:33] <`hypermist`> Im so tried. that things be like durp durpity
[14:34] <jatt> Parity: no, the latter starts a new shell to read scriptname.sh
[14:34] <k1l> `hypermist`: ubuntu offers a 331 driver. which is newer than the nvidia-current you just have
[14:34] <jatt> Parity: the latter also work even if scriptname.sh doesn't have execute permissions
[14:34] <EriC^^> Parity: with ./ it will look in the cwd, with sh you can run it by typing its name
[14:34] <`hypermist`> k1l, what is the command then ?
[14:34] <EriC^^> ( even if it isn't +x )
[14:35] <k1l> `hypermist`: do a "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current" and then do a "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331"
[14:35] <`hypermist`> okay
[14:36] <quackgyver> EriC^^: holy shit
[14:36] <quackgyver> it worked
[14:36] <quackgyver> what did you do o_o
[14:36] <EriC^^> quackgyver: great
[14:36] <quackgyver> man
[14:36] <quackgyver> what did you even do
[14:36] <quackgyver> o_o
[14:38] <Parity> @ EriC thanks!
[14:38] <EriC^^> quackgyver: reinstalled grub
[14:38] <quackgyver> EriC^^: when i boot it up it says system program problem detected
[14:38] <`hypermist`> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9882731/ wehn installing
[14:38] <quackgyver> can i repair ubuntu somehow?
[14:38] <`hypermist`> it doesn't stop either k1l its goes on for some time then stops
[14:38] <EriC^^> quackgyver: the apport errors?
[14:38] <quackgyver> yes!
[14:38] <quackgyver> howd you know
[14:39] <EriC^^> quackgyver: you mean while it's booting the kernel? or in the gui?
[14:39] <quackgyver> when ive logged into my desktop
[14:39] <k1l> `hypermist`: did you fiddle there manually with the drivers?
[14:39] <quackgyver> it says ubuntus been experiencing internal errors
[14:39] <quackgyver> with apportcheckresume
[14:39] <EriC^^> quackgyver: you can check the details, yeah they happen to everyone
[14:39] <`hypermist`> k1l, nope. i don't think so let me check
[14:39] <EriC^^> quackgyver: you can check the details if you want, and then disable them
[14:39] <quackgyver> EriC^^: it happens every time i log in
[14:39] <quackgyver> do you know what thats about?
[14:39] <EriC^^> quackgyver: type gksu xdiagnose
[14:40] <quackgyver> i gotta install it
[14:40] <quackgyver> hold on
[14:40] <EriC^^> quackgyver: those are for the unreleased versions to report errors
[14:42] <Tamilan> hi....everybody....
[14:42] <quackgyver> EriC^^: what does that mean?
[14:43] <EriC^^> quackgyver: you can type pkexec xdiagnose if you want, or just open the dash and type xdiagnose
[14:43] <EriC^^> quackgyver: gksu is for running gui apps with privileges
[14:43] <`hypermist`> yep i did edit it k1l  so i deleted it and now its running on those drivers i think
[14:45] <quackgyver> EriC^^: aight i got it open
[14:46] <EriC^^> quackgyver: ok uncheck automatic error reporting
[14:46] <fxmulder> is there a way to install ubuntu so that I can make a snapshot to easily rollback to if I blow something up?
[14:46] <EriC^^> fxmulder: lvm can do that i think
[14:46] <jatt> install it in a vm
[14:47] <fxmulder> jatt: I can't use a vm because I am doing some hardware specific stuff
[14:47] <jatt> vb has snapshots
[14:47] <jatt> btrfs has snapshots and rollbacks
[14:47] <MarcGuay> Hi folks.  Ubuntu 14.04.  Any way to get the skype chat notifications to be more apparent?  If I'm AFK I don't see them at all.
[14:47] <jatt> but afaik btrfs is slow and buggy as hell
[14:47] <`hypermist`> k1l,  its not the open gl issue
[14:48] <`hypermist`> when i try boot a game with open gl it doesn't boot
[14:48] <k1l> `hypermist`: ?
[14:48] <k1l> did you reboot after changing the nvidia driver now?
[14:48] <`hypermist`> nope
[14:48] <`hypermist`> i will do now
[14:48] <quackgyver> EriC^^: shouldnt i be concerned with the error report though?
[14:50] <fxmulder> alright using lvm
[14:51] <EriC^^> quackgyver: it's up to you, i've disabled it and others too
[14:51] <quackgyver> EriC^^: Well, what did this specific error mean?
[14:52] <EriC^^> quackgyver: you have to check the details
[14:52] <quackgyver> EriC^^: well
[14:52] <quackgyver> why is it a good idea to disable it if something is wrong?
[14:52] <quackgyver> isnt it better to fix the problem?
[14:53] <EriC^^> quackgyver: it's not that serious of an error i guess
[14:54] <quackgyver> How so? :o
[14:54] <hyperderp> Hey k1l its me hypermist
[14:55] <hyperderp> After i rebooted i dont get any desktop icons
[14:55] <hyperderp> And my pc is actinh loke its doing nothing
[14:55] <EriC^^> quackgyver: they're probably just warnings or other stuff that's really more helpful to the devs than anything else
[14:55] <hyperderp> Im using irc on my phone at
[14:56] <EriC^^> quackgyver: so in the prereleases it's there, but it's disabled by default ( or is supposed to be ) in the official releases
[14:56] <k1l> hyperderp: what video hardware is it?
[14:56] <hyperderp> What do i do k1l
[14:57] <k1l> hyperderp: "ctrl +alt +t" for a terminal. then "lspci" and see what video hardware it is
[14:58] <hyperderp> I cant its frozen but mouse is moveable
[14:59] <quackgyver> EriC^^: oh ok
[14:59] <quackgyver> well
[14:59] <quackgyver> im not entirely sure what htat means
[14:59] <quackgyver> but ive got a working computer again now thanks to you
[14:59] <quackgyver> so ill trust you
[14:59] <quackgyver> thanks a lot for helping me. couldnt have done it without you
[14:59] <k1l> hyperderp: there might be a problem with your manual changes and the website driver you tried to install.
[14:59] <EriC^^> quackgyver: no problem
[15:00] <k1l> hyperderp: "ctrl +alt+f1" to get to tty, then login there and run "lspci"
[15:00] <hyperderp> Alright i did a different way but it says vga compatible gts 450 k1l
[15:00] <quackgyver> :)
[15:00] <k1l> hyperderp: "it doesnt work" is not a good error description for support over telephone or irc.
[15:00] <EriC^^> quackgyver: :)
[15:00] <hyperderp> Pci bridge says amd ati k1l
[15:02] <zamba> how do i resize a vg?
[15:03] <zamba> vgextend looks to be just for extending a vg over several different physical volumes
[15:03] <hyperderp> K1l?
[15:03] <k1l> hyperderp: what ubuntu version?
[15:03] <hyperderp> 14.04
[15:04] <fxmulder> does the x64 version run on 32 bit machines?
[15:05] <hyperderp> Fxmulder think only if cpu can do x64
[15:05] <teward> fxmulder: x64 is for 64-bit architecture - you need the x86 version for 32bit architecture and CPus
[15:05] <fxmulder> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop makes it sound like the determining factor is the amount of ram
[15:06] <teward> fxmulder: it's the CPU architecture
[15:06] <teward> fxmulder: you need the 32-bit version (i386 / i686) for 32-bit CPUs
[15:06] <fxmulder> I would imagine so but their wording sure makes that distinction confusing
[15:06] <k1l> hyperderp: what does "sudo lshw -c display" say about driver?
[15:07] <hyperderp> Display unclaimed k1l
[15:09] <k1l> hyperderp: hmm, ok try "sudo apt-get purge nividia*" then reboot and see if it comes up with a open source novoue driver . then you should have a gui and its easier to start from there
[15:09] <hyperderp> Lol when i did that k1l it said my gpu clock was 33mhz lol
[15:10] <hyperderp> The lshw cmd
[15:11] <fxmulder> this laptop I got back in 08 still runs fine aside from the fact that it is 32 bit, wish I had gone 64 bit back then
[15:12] <k1l> fxmulder: you need to install the 32bit ubuntu if your hardware can only run 32bit.
[15:12] <fxmulder> k1l: my last statement was a statement of remorse as opposed to a statement of confusion as to which version to install
[15:13] <k1l> hydrajump: say when its done rebooting.
[15:15] <`hypermist`> k1l,
[15:15] <`hypermist`> i did dpkg --configure -a and now i rebooted and im the drivers
[15:15] <`hypermist`> and youtube isnt lagging now
[15:16] <k1l> all good then?
[15:16] <I-am-Groot> Hello
[15:16] <`hypermist`> k1l, i will go see by testing a game
[15:16] <unloading> you should be saying iamgroot
[15:16] <fxmulder> ubuntu also seems to have problems figuring out my timezone, when I was in mountain time it always defaulted to central on install, now that I am in central it defaults to eastern
[15:17] <I-am-Groot> For the past days, it looks like my Dell Latitude E6420 running Ubuntu 14.04 Keeps loosing data after reboot
[15:17] <cfhowlett> I-am-Groot, "looks like ..."?
[15:18] <k1l> I-am-Groot: so that laptoo is old now and starts to forget everything? :)   can you explain what you mean?
[15:18] <I-am-Groot> cfhowlett: Settings keep getting lost, brightness of the screen keeps reseting to the highest levels
[15:18] <unloading> h
[15:18] <BluesKaj> fxmulder, there wouldn't be much difference in performance between 32 and 64 bit  on a cpu from '08 , I had a laptop and and desktop from that era and the 32 bit laprop ran as well as the 64bit desktop with ubuntu
[15:19] <I-am-Groot> Also, WiFi access points keeps getting deleted
[15:19] <k1l> I-am-Groot: see "dmesg" if there is some hardware failure
[15:19] <fxmulder> BluesKaj: some of the PCL stuff I want to use recommends 64 bit, they also recommend a much larger GPU than what I have so I may end up getting a new laptop at some point anyway
[15:19] <I-am-Groot> Okay
[15:19] <rtdos> How can I prevent certain users from hearing sound and other users from not hearing sound?
[15:19] <I-am-Groot> What command should i enter?? k1l
[15:19] <fxmulder> I've been using this laptop with various versions of ubuntu for a while now and its always run fine for general purpose stuff though
[15:20] <k1l> I-am-Groot: "dmesg" is the command
[15:20] <I-am-Groot> Okay
[15:20] <I-am-Groot> On it
[15:20] <rtdos> How can I prevent certain users from hearing sound and other users from not hearing sound? What I want to do is allow only those in the audio group to hear sound and those not in the audio group to hear silence.
[15:20] <EriC^^> rtdos: cotton
[15:20] <cfhowlett> !patience | rtdos,
[15:21] <BluesKaj> fxmulder, yeah, that what I did, bought a new laptop last yr and the desktop is still running ok with quite bit of new HW added over the yrs
[15:26] <jnhghy> I have a ssd that was formated GPT that I used in a server and now it seems it crashed, I'd like to test it on an ubuntu 14.04 machine, are there any chances for my os to see that disk? and if still operable to see the data on it?
[15:26] <cfhowlett> jnhghy, chances?  sure.
[15:27] <jnhghy> cfhowlett: good to know, I saw that not all os's support gpt and I didn't know on which side is ubuntu
[15:28] <cfhowlett> jnhghy, seeing likely won't be an issue.  doing something with may require actual thought.  be patient, ask questions, take your time.
[15:29] <rtdos> sorry didn't mean to type it twice. EriC^^ cotton?
[15:32] <rtdos> at school we have certain groups of kids that use the computer and listen to CD's and MP3's (learning materials for the blind) but we don't want all kids whom use this computer to have access to this feature.
[15:33] <levi_> Hi, I am running Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and curl 7.35.0. According to: http://curl.haxx.se/docs/vuln-7.35.0.html , there are vulnerabilities. Should I download a file from http://curl.haxx.se/download.html and compile/install the latest version of curl 7.40.0?
[15:35] <jhutchins_wk> levi_: Because the Ubuntu team applies security patches to existing releases of software, you should track the security vulnerabilities of the Ubuntu package rather than the "
[15:35] <jhutchins_wk> upstream" release.
[15:35] <jhutchins_wk> levi_: For any significant vulnerability, there should be a timely security update of the official package.
[15:36] <rtdos> we don't mind them listening to their music devices while using the computer we just don't want them using the computers resources to do it.
[15:37] <levi_> jhutchins_wk: so I should be fine or what should I do?
[15:40] <jhutchins_wk> levi_: Track the Debian security announcements and update as appropriate.
[15:40] <cfhowlett> rtdos, I think you had the right idea: group memberships.  disable audio for students
[15:42] <k1l> levi_: see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/ and the tracker there. if its no know file a bug on launchpad.net
[15:42] <somsip> rtdos: not sure on this, but if you removed audio group access from students, then created a new group of 'users-audio' (maybe) that had access to users and audio groups, would that be a starting point?
[15:42] <somsip> s/students/users
[15:43] <k1l> levi_: like the first cve mentioned on your side: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2014/CVE-2014-8151.html  ubuntu is not even affected by them
[15:45] <pratik> Hi I got an ISSUE
[15:46] <levi_> k1l: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2014/CVE-2014-8150.html what about that one?
[15:46] <k1l> levi_: "released"
[15:46] <levi_> k1l: libcurl/7.35.0 is installed, so I'm okay? neat
[15:46] <k1l> levi_: so if you have the original ubuntu version installed and run the regular updates your system is fixed
[15:46] <levi_> Thanks k11!
[15:46] <levi_> Have a good day
[15:47] <k1l> levi_: manual instaled?
[15:47] <levi_> nope
[15:47] <levi_> wait
[15:47] <levi_> manually installed? no
[15:47] <levi_> i used apt-get to install everything
[15:47] <k1l> apt-cache policy curl
[15:47] <delinquentme> ok so im trying to recover a drive
[15:47] <pratik> Hi anyone here to solve my issue ?
[15:47] <somsip> !details
[15:47] <somsip> pratik: ^^^ give more details
[15:47] <k1l> ok, if its from the official ubuntu repos itsfixed. if you did use a PPA or .deb or compiled it by yourself we cant update that.
[15:48] <delinquentme> Error reading block 60325888 (Invalid argument).  Ignore error<y>?
[15:48] <tga> I have a server that's either very slow or just not coming up, freezes a long time on random
[15:48] <tga> to bring up a server in single user you just add 'single' to the kernel opts, right?
[15:48] <delinquentme> ^ im  not sure what this is about ... but after hitting yes ... then a few nos ... it tells me that the drive still has errors
[15:48] <levi_> quit
[15:48] <levi_> hehehe
[15:48] <pratik> My VLC player gives issue while playing video, when i go forward like 10.50 mins It stops sound !
[15:49] <tga> this is right after an upgrade btw
[15:49] <pratik> Please help me or i will have to switch to Win 7 bcoz of this issue
[15:50] <Ziber> How can I redirect to a file and then later, in the same script, redirect to stdout?
[15:50] <jatt> pratik: do you have the same issue without pulseaudio?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> pratik, fine install W7, your statement isn't going to make much difference in support here ...is your sound not returning after FF and then resuming play?
[15:52] <pratik> Your correct sir , after FF , sound stops
[15:52] <pratik> @jatt lemme install that software
[15:52] <BluesKaj> did you try to pause then restart, pratik
[15:53] <jatt> pratik: no, probably you already are using it, it could be pulseaudio is the issue in that case you can disable
[15:53] <jatt> it
[15:53] <pratik> I tried everything including what u said , nothing works
[15:54] <jatt> pratik: can you try:
[15:54] <jatt> sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop
[15:54] <jatt> and check whether you still have the same issue?
[15:54] <pratik> How to disable pulseaudio ?
[15:54] <jhutchins_wk> pratik: By all means, Windows 7 sounds like a good idea for you.
[15:54] <BluesKaj> pratik, tried everything that who said?
[15:55] <pratik> "did you try to pause then restart, pratik "=> This i used told by BluesKaj
[15:55] <tomshreds> Hi folks: I saw this running on my instance: /bin/sh -c if [ -x /usr/sbin/sendmail ]; then \ ?/usr/sbin/sendmail -bi || true; \ ?if [ -f /etc/mail/aliases.db ]; then \ ??chown smmta:smmsp /etc/mail/aliases.db; \ ??chmod 0644 /etc/mail/aliases.db; \ ??fi; \ ?fi;
[15:55] <tomshreds> Is it normal / safe? I mean I found it weird, my sendmail took huge amounts of memory so I might have been compromised
[15:56] <rtdos> cfhowlett: tried taking certain users out of the audio group but they can still hear audio; polkit perhaps? but how?
[15:56] <tga> io error on upgrade, now no way to get this machine to boot
[15:56] <tga> fun stuff
[15:56] <rtdos> somsip: but how would i enable to sound card for users-audio or this other group?
[15:57] <cfhowlett> rtdos, outside my range, sorry to say.  keep asking in channel.  it's can't be that unique a request.
[15:59] <rtdos> cfhowlett: yep.
[15:59] <somsip> rtdos: they would have access to audio group
[16:03] <pratik> I would like to say -> "I LOVE UBUNTU" :) Lots of blessings to Software developers from ME!!!!!!
[16:03] <I-am-Groot> k1l: I have finnally been able to place it on pastebin
[16:03] <I-am-Groot> Here is the link
[16:03] <I-am-Groot> http://pastebin.com/mvzv8PNA
[16:05] <I-am-Groot> All this loss of data after reboot has got an impact on my internet speed
[16:09] <notmorpheus> What is the standard home folder path for --system users? I saw a tutorial specifying --home under /opt -- is this a common convention? Normally I just have every home path under /home/systemusername
[16:10] <notmorpheus> Actually I think I see why he did this. Because that's where he installed a program, and he just used the program dir as the home dir as well.
[16:10] <notmorpheus> Huh.
[16:18] <jhutchins_wk> I-am-Groot: If you think you're loosing data you should check the disk, install smartmontools and enable it and watch the logs for filesystem errors.  If you are loosing data it's time to replace the hard drive NOW.
[16:18] <I-am-Groot> jhutchins_wk: thanks
[16:20] <tzau> Hai
[16:20] <jhutchins_wk> notmorpheus: The most common convention is for a system account to have no home directory.
[16:24] <I-am-Groot> jhutchins_wk: Yesterday, i kept getting error messages similar to this.
[16:24] <I-am-Groot> Mar 20 22:18:28 kernel: [24769.036550] ata1: hard resetting link
[16:24] <I-am-Groot> Mar 20 22:18:28 kernel: [24769.357048] ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)
[16:24] <I-am-Groot> Mar 20 22:18:28 kernel: [24769.358185] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/66
[16:24] <I-am-Groot> Mar 20 22:18:28 kernel: [24769.358205] ata1: EH complete
[16:25] <I-am-Groot> I did some research and they said it was kernel related
[16:27] <edu_> hola
[16:28] <danofsatx> good day, folks. Is this the best channel to investigate an issue with libvirt on 14.04, or there anothe channel with more targeted support?
[16:28] <edu_> hola soy Edu_
[16:29] <themiddleman-> hola edu_ , /join #ubuntu-es
[16:31] <LinuxGold> how do I get apt-get --get-selections to show EXACT qt that I am using -- it simply said qt5
[16:32] <LinuxGold> need to know if  it is 5.3 or 5.4 because QQuickWidget is in older than 5.3
[16:32] <LinuxGold> NEWER I mean.
[16:32] <LinuxGold> sorry
[16:32] <RansomTime> Hi. I can't see an edit button on https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/git.html is there one?
[16:32] <k1l> LinuxGold: apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[16:33] <CrtxReavr> What would make getty processes go apeshit?
[16:34] <LinuxGold> thanks!
[16:34] <teoi> Whats the chmod permission to copy a file?
[16:34] <CrtxReavr> teoi, um. .. write has a value of 4?
[16:35] <CrtxReavr> er - whoops
[16:35] <CrtxReavr> write has a value of 2
[16:35] <CrtxReavr> Read is 4
[16:38] <Linuxman> Linuxman is here!!
[16:40] <notmorpheus> All hail Linuxman. For he is a kind and just king.
[16:40] <Linuxman> :D
[16:42]  * BluesKaj reserves judgment :)
[16:44] <whyubuntu> Help! unable to upgrade to 14.04 LTS
[16:45] <sfranken> whyubuntu: Desktop or server? And what have you tried so far?
[16:45] <pbx> whyubuntu, give details.
[16:45] <whyubuntu> ran update and dist-upgrade it did do sm updates 1 time but doesn't update to 14.04
[16:45] <pbx> e.g. what version you're upgrading from
[16:45] <BluesKaj> !details |whyubuntu
[16:45] <whyubuntu> 12.04
[16:46] <sfranken> whyubuntu: dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade from release to release
[16:46] <sfranken> whyubuntu: use "do-release-upgrade" for that
[16:46] <whyubuntu> tried this 2nd time... 1st time it hung up with grey screen via update manager.. came here for advice did a system restore.
[16:46] <cfhowlett> whyubuntu, torrent 14.04.1   and clean insatll
[16:46] <cfhowlett> *install*
[16:47] <whyubuntu> I have some dell recovery crap installed
[16:47] <whyubuntu> gives errors for fresh clean install :\
[16:47] <sfranken> whyubuntu: Format your drive and the dell recovery crap is gone. But you can use "do-release-upgrade" if you want to upgrade
[16:48] <sfranken> whyubuntu: apt-get dist-upgrade actually updates all packages in a distro that are *critical* and can't/won't be upgraded with a normal "apt-get upgrade"
[16:48] <BluesKaj> whyubuntu, make sure you update and upgrade all  packages on 12.04 before upgrading the OS
[16:49] <whyubuntu> "do-release-upgrade" checing for new relase
[16:49] <whyubuntu> no new realease found :\
[16:49] <whyubuntu> tried with -d
[16:49] <whyubuntu> also
[16:49] <k1l> whyubuntu: "sudo do-release-upgrade" is for ubuntu release upgrade. do that. if errors show up please pastebin them and show them in a pastebin
[16:49] <whyubuntu> "do-release-upgrade" checing for new relase
[16:49] <whyubuntu> 10:19:08 PM
[16:49] <whyubuntu> no new realease found :\
[16:49] <GatoLoko> whyubuntu: do not write in all caps, it is against the rules. Next time you will be expelled.
[16:49] <k1l> whyubuntu: where does your release prompt link to and what ubuntu are you on?
[16:49] <whyubuntu> kk sorry
[16:50] <k1l> whyubuntu: "lsb_release -d" and "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades"
[16:50] <sfranken> whyubuntu: Are you on an older version of 12.04? If my memory is correct the upgrade path became available from 12.04.3 and up
[16:50] <whyubuntu> sys info shows 12.04 LTS
[16:51] <whyubuntu> after I did last dist-upgrade it showed 12.04.5 somewhere
[16:51] <k1l> whyubuntu: stop
[16:51] <sfranken> 12.04.5? Wow..
[16:51] <k1l> whyubuntu: please show in a pastebin what i asked you to. no guessing, not "i think" just plain facts
[16:51] <whyubuntu> uname doesn't show lts version :\
 whyubuntu: "lsb_release -d" and "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades"
[16:52] <sfranken> whyubuntu: what kil said
[16:52] <k1l> whyubuntu: i loose motivation to help if you dont read what i write at all.
[16:52] <whyubuntu> "lsb_release -d" shows 12.04.5 LTS!!
[16:53] <whyubuntu> cat "promt=never"
[16:53] <whyubuntu> hmmm
[16:53] <chris00000> i'm trying to determine the list of supported bluetooth profiles on a given distribution / version with a particular bluetooth dongle. it looks like sdptool provides that list, but its unclear. it says "Services:" rather than "bluetooth profiles", but from the list they appear to be clearly bluetooth profiles. i checked it against the doc/supported-features.txt in the bluez package from bluez.org, but there are profiles that the sdptool tool lists whic
[16:53] <chris00000> h are not listed in this file and this file supposedly lists all of the profiles supported in the latest version. is anybody able to bring some clarity to this?
[16:53] <whyubuntu> shlould I change promt to lts?
[16:53] <sfranken> whyubuntu: change "prompt=never" to "prompt=lts" and you'll be sorted
[16:54] <k1l> whyubuntu: ok, that is the issue change the propmt to lts
[16:54] <notmorpheus> jhutchins_wk: how to adduser with no home dir? (for system users)
[16:55] <n88> g'mornin' ubuntus... I have a fresh install of 14.04.1 that I got up last night and I have a Netgear WNDA3100v2 that wasn't supported out of the box.  I was able to get it up and (half) working with ndiswrapper but now I can only connect to the guest network but WPA authentication seems to be failing over and over... dmesg reports a generic error of not being able to connect and /var/log/syslog says something about a mismatching pre-auth handshake
[16:57] <sfranken> n88: You sure you need ndiswrapper? Most Netgear stuff is supported out of the box nowadays
[16:58] <jhutchins_wk> ndiswrapper is so 2004.
[16:58] <sparr> When a drive fails to mount at boot time, I get a prompt asking if I want to '[S]kip' or '[M]anual recovery'. If I press "M" then the boot process hangs a few steps later. Shouldn't I get something like a single user prompt there to do the mount?
[16:58] <jhutchins_wk> n88: What's the chipset?  lspci -nn, what's the ID?
[16:59] <notmorpheus> jhutchins_wk: never mind. figured it out. seemed like something that wouldn't be allowed, but I guess it is
[16:59] <chris00000> sfranken: you can't really say that most netgear stuff is supported out of the box... it highly depends on what chipset is being used and... it won't work if its a newer chipset as the distribution won't have the latest version. it takes time to make it into the mainline kernel, etc
[16:59] <n88> sfranken: it seems to be
[16:59] <n88> jhutchins_wk: one sec
[17:00] <whyubuntu> promt set to lts but still show's no realease found :\
[17:00] <whyubuntu> shld I do a restart or smth for it to take effect?
[17:00] <sfranken> whyubuntu: You could always try
[17:00] <sfranken> whyubuntu: Tried a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade already?
[17:00] <whyubuntu> doing
[17:00] <whyubuntu> yea
[17:00] <chris00000> sfranken: one thing I've learned over the years is you can't assume stuff off the shelf will work and anything that says "linux" on the box probably has poor to no actual support in linux
[17:01] <sfranken> chris00000: Most stuff has an older chipset, only *brandspanking* new stuff has that issue yes
[17:01] <chris00000> sfranken: which is most of the hardware on the shelf... plus your not taking into account proprietary crap. there is still tons of it. 95% of the hardware on the market in fact.
[17:02] <TheBigDeal> can i remove files in /var/backups?
[17:02] <sfranken> chris0000: Depends on where you are in the world I guess. Over here I haven't encountered a piece of network hardware since 2004 that hasn't worked out of the box yet
[17:03] <chris00000> sfranken: there are certainly some companies that have done a great job, but i wouldn't put 100% faith in. hp is a good example. the printers they sell are mostly good. however there is a smaller list thats ideal as there aren't any proprietary bits.
[17:03] <notmorpheus> jhutchins_wk: if a user has no home dir, like a system user, and you sudo su to it, what happens wrt to things like .history -- that kind of stuff just isn't saved?
[17:04] <chris00000> sfranken: i don't care where you are... your experience is merely lacking perspective. i'm the primary person responsible for sourcing hardware and we run into problems constantly.
[17:04] <sfranken> chris0000: Wow, that's harsh.
[17:05] <chris00000> sfranken: yes-it is. I don't mean to be a jerk. there are very few people who've purchased 95% of hp's printer catalog though.
[17:05] <sfranken> chris00000: I worked for a medium size Linux company specializing in Ubuntu on servers and desktops, and we had a *lot* of hardware
[17:05] <chris00000> sfranken: i just happen to be one of those people who deals with this issue every day.
[17:05] <sfranken> chris00000: So do I ;)
[17:05] <yusuf> anyone know how to change MDM Lock Screen Wallpaper?
[17:05] <chris00000> sfranken: yes- but your talking about server hardware and thats a different ball game
[17:05] <sfranken> Well, did actually. Company went bust after the CEO decided to leave
[17:06] <sfranken> chris0000: No, read what I said
[17:06] <sfranken> Servers AND desktops
[17:06] <sfranken> My coworkers did the servers, I was repsonsible for desktops and laptops and everything related (scanners, printers, WiFi dongles you name it)
[17:06] <chris00000> sfranken: my company deals with hundreds of distributions and everything from little wifi cards and bluetooth adapters to printers, desktops, laptops, mini-boxes, routers, etc. you name it we've probably sourced it from multiple companies with multiple chipsets.
[17:07] <n88> jhutchins_wk: now the guest wifi seems to lock up after a few min... lspci -nn output here: http://pastebin.com/AQGNEvd6
[17:07] <chris00000> sfranken: again- there is no way you've got a clue here.
[17:07] <k1l> chris00000: sfranken hey guys, can we not run into a "my $thing is bigger than yours" contest and keep it support focused in here?
[17:08] <n88> and here is lsusb: http://pastebin.com/iwGCvdQ1
[17:08] <sfranken> chris0000: Wow. Nice way to treat people. Sure, my field isn't as *massive* as yours but I know my stuff. Then again I've had the freedom to only select items that are known to work and supply those to our customers. Sure, sometimes something didn't work but that wasn't all too common in the later years.
[17:08] <chris00000> kil: sorry- it just gets me irritated when people act like they know what they are talking about and clearly don't. i actually interact with the developers and getting companies to release code on a daily basis. there are so many gpl violations and failures to cooperate its not even funny.
[17:09] <chris00000> sfranken: you're perspective is warped. it's easy to say everything works when your only sourcing hardware that probably works.
[17:10] <chris00000> sfranken: try getting the source code to fix bugs and the like for a phone for example. there are no wifi devices in any SoC that the complete set of source code is even available.
[17:10] <chris00000> sfranken: let me fix that... on a modern SoC with a modern wifi chip.
[17:10] <sfranken> chris00000: Out of scope here. We were talking about WiFI cards/dongles ;)
[17:11] <chris00000> sfranken: i disagree. we were talking about hardware in general. not specific hardware.
[17:11] <sfranken> chris00000: I don't know where you got that from. I was talking about network hardware/wifi cards and dongles..
[17:11] <chris00000> sfranken: there are still lots of problems with companies discontinuing proprietary drivers or programs and loosing support.
[17:12] <chris00000> sfranken: well, if your talking about wifi dongles I'd still argue there is no good 802.11ac chip. period.
[17:12] <chris00000> sfranken: they're all dependent on non-free software for which can't be properly supported in linux.
[17:12] <jhutchins_wk> chris00000: Could you please take it to another channel NOW?
[17:12] <chris00000> jhutchains_wk : no. i'm done.
[17:17] <ailton> j #trivia
[17:18]  * squinty notes "the forward slash is the most missed character when joining irc channels such as #trivia"
[17:19] <oats> hello
[17:19] <cuppy> Hi, all. I have an odd situation. A blizzard is about to come through my town, and I may lose power. I (stupidly) do not have a backup solution of any kind, except Google Drive (which, okay, I suppose I could use). I am doing valuable work on this computer, and I want to make sure my changes to my .html and .js files are written to disc just in case the power runs out. I am using Sublime Text 2 on 12.04. When I save something, can I be assured that i
[17:19] <cuppy> t is written to disc and not lazily waiting in RAM?
[17:20] <oats> I installed Ubuntu, replacing windows on my laptop, and now I need to change the partitioning, so am trying to boot Ubuntu from USB, as I did when I first installed it, but the bios isn't detecting my USB with ubuntu on it
[17:20] <sfranken> cuppy: Why would it be written into RAM??
[17:20] <sfranken> oats: Try a different USB port, or a diferent USB key. This one may be fried
[17:20] <sfranken> oats: What do you see when your machine is running and you plug it in?
[17:21] <oats> It pulls it up fine and shows all the files/ directories accessible
[17:21] <cuppy> sfranken, for instance, when changes are made to a USB flash drive, the changes commonly aren't written to the drive until it is told to unmount.
[17:21] <sfranken> oats: Ok, so the drive is still good :)
[17:21] <oats> sfranken: that's good I suppose haha
[17:22] <sfranken> cuppy: Yes, a USB flash key. But a HDD/SSD isn't a USB flash key
[17:22] <oats> for some reason it isn't showing up in my boot menu
[17:22] <sfranken> cuppy: Check with "ls" if the access time (atime) changes
[17:22] <sfranken> cuppy: That way you'll know for sure
[17:22] <sfranken> oats: Shut down your machine completely, insert USB, boot, see what happens
[17:22] <cuppy> sfranken, I thought atime is lazy.
[17:22] <sfranken> cuppy: depends on your mount options
[17:22] <oats> sfranken: did this multiple times, same thing
[17:22] <mcphail> cuppy: you could try mounting with the "sync" option but the whole file may corrupt if you lose power during a disk write
[17:22] <squinty> cuppy:  surely your editor has a "save work after a certain period of time" option....?
[17:23] <sfranken> oats: How do you boot from USB? Insert it and hope or insert it and press a key?
[17:23] <n88> for my netgear WNDA3100v2 issue i tried to follow this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221251 but when I `dmesg | grep ndis` it seems to be having an issue 'required key missing - taining kernel': http://pastebin.com/n7dM46n3
[17:23] <mcphail> squinty: that isn't what he means
[17:24] <Whitor> Hi all. 14.04 here. random lockups.. I think it is my HD. Superblock to be precise... My Question is... is there a way to repair the superblock? or is this a physical issue that needs a new HD to fix?
[17:24] <oats> sfranken: Usually the usb is in, I pause start up and enter the boot menu, and it shows a list of devices, including the USB drive
[17:24] <Whitor> MemX86 tested fine
[17:25] <oats> but it's not showing up in the device list in the boot menu
[17:25] <squinty> mcphail:  please talk to the original poster  thanks
[17:25] <sfranken> oats: Try re-doing the usb key creation? That's the easiest thing I can think of
[17:25] <Whitor> Coming out of sleep, I've gotten superblock errors... unable to write to.. followed by another lockup
[17:26] <oats> oats: I reformatted and redownloaded the iso multiple times
[17:27] <sfranken> oats: Is the drive bootable? You can check with fdisk -l <drive>
[17:28] <cuppy> thx for the input all. I'll look into it.
[17:28] <oats> sfranken: 1 sec
[17:32] <wojtek> hello everybody
[17:33] <n88> still trying to trouble shoot this netgear WNDA3100v2 issue.. here is the output of /var/log/syslog which seems to be saying that it is failing the "WPA 4-way handshake"
[17:33] <n88> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9884837/
[17:34] <n88> I can connect to the guest network and it works but trying to authenticate to the actual network won't work
[17:34] <oats> sfranken: "last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 40700
[17:34] <oats> "
[17:35] <sfranken> oast: Drive isn't fried but it isn't written correctly either. That's a partition/fstab problem. Easy solution would be to empty the drive and start again
[17:36] <sfranken> oast: "$ parted -a optimal <drive>" starts parted, type "mklabel msdos" and "quit"
[17:36] <sfranken> oast: That wipes the entire disk. *make sure to use the correct disk!*
[17:36] <asdfghdn1>  Set Up  Remote Database to Optimize Site Performance with MySQL
[17:36] <asdfghdn1> help required
[17:36] <oats> sfranken: I entered the wrong thing.
[17:37] <sfranken> oats: *ouch*
[17:37] <oats> no I mean that gave me that error
[17:37] <oats> its /dev/sdc1
[17:37] <sfranken> oats: phew
[17:37] <oats> Under boot is says *
[17:37] <oats> does that mean bootable?
[17:37] <sfranken> oast: Indeed it does
[17:37] <oats> HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[17:38] <oats> it still isn't showing up in my boot devices
[17:38] <sfranken> oats: Easiest thing is to remake the USB key
[17:38] <sfranken> oats: Follow my steps above, that's how I always do it and it hasn't failed me yet
[17:38] <sfranken> oats: Sometimes the Ubuntu application to create a USB key does for me, which is why I do it *oldschool*
[17:39] <oats> sfranken: You mean to format and reinstall the ubuntu iso image?
[17:39] <techsuperfreak> n88:  Have you tried removing the passphrase and testing that way?
[17:39] <sfranken> oats: Yup
[17:39] <oats> sfranken: I did this three times it never shows up in the boot
[17:40] <n88> techsuperfreak: ndiswrapper was pissing me off so i am in the process of purging it and going to take another stab
[17:40] <sfranken> oats: Can you describe how you create the disk? Maybe somethines not right there
[17:40] <n88> lots of people seem to be having this issue with this netgear device
[17:40] <techsuperfreak> n88: keep us posted
[17:41] <oats> 1) format 2) download iso 3) configure with unetbootin 4) plug usb into ubuntu laptop 5) turn on and go to boot menu 6) no usb in boot devices list
[17:41] <oats> (sfranken)
[17:41] <sfranken> oast: unetbootin doesn't work all that well ;)
[17:43] <oats> sfranken: I also used start up disk creator
[17:44] <sfranken> oats: Try dd, the good old-fashioned way
[17:44] <sparr> what do I need to do to add software raid drivers to my initramfs?
[17:44] <oats> sfranken: I don't think it is a problem with the usb and ubuntu image
[17:44] <oats> I think it is some config in bios or uefi
[17:44] <sfranken> oats: Just to be sure, if that's not it we can rule that out
[17:45] <oats> because other computer is detecting it
[17:45] <sfranken> oats: BIOS/(U)EFI configs don't change themselves
[17:45] <sfranken> oats: ah
[17:46] <oats> before, the computer I am trying to do this on had windows. I did the same exact thing and successfully installed ubuntu
[17:46] <oats> (last night, while windows was the OS, it showed ubuntu usb in boot options)
[17:46] <sfranken> oats: Is it a BIOS of UEFI system? If it's a UEFI system did you remove the *safeboot* option first?
[17:46] <oats> sfranken: both, I disabled UEFI and set only Legacy boot
[17:47] <sfranken> oats: Is your USB key formatted with a GPT table or a msdos table?
[17:47] <oats> I'm not sure
[17:47] <sfranken> oats: And sometimes legacy boots from UEFI's are bugged.. and won't work
[17:47] <oats> so how do I disable safeboot option
[17:48] <sfranken> oats: Usually from the UEFI itself,it depends on the UEFI itself
[17:48] <sfranken> oats: Mine was under "Boot options" -> "Security"
[17:48] <sfranken> oats: but that differs per vendor
[17:48] <oats> sfranken: I am in Security, Secure Boot, and it shows "Disabled"
[17:49] <sfranken> oats: Disable legacy boot as well
[17:49] <sfranken> oats: Then try again
[17:49] <oats> sfranken: It is either legacy boot, uefi, or both. Which?
[17:49] <Arizon> hello, i just used gparted to format my external harddrive to have its primary partition as ext4 and then i placed my ubuntu 14.04 iso inside it. however, i needed to sudo mv the iso into the external harddrive... i think this is what's causing the boot error when i try to start installing the ubuntu os to my external drive... please help!
[17:49] <sfranken> oats: Try both to be safe
[17:50] <oats> also USB UEFI BIOS Support is "enabled"
[17:50] <oats> USB 3.0 Mode is "auto"
[17:50] <sfranken> Arizon: That won't work. You need to write the contents of the ISO to a disk, not the ISO itself
[17:50] <sfranken> oast: Try with a USB 2 key perhaps?
[17:51] <sfranken> oats: Some machines have trouble booting USB3
[17:51] <oats> sfranken: UEFI/Legacy boot priority: Which one?
[17:51] <Arizon> sfranken, umm in linux what should i used for that?
[17:51] <oats> sfranken: this all worked last night before I installed ubuntu
[17:51] <sfranken> oats: Shouldn't really matter that much
[17:51] <sfranken> oast: I know, weird, right?
[17:51] <oats> also, what is CSM support
[17:51] <Arizon> usbwrite isn't picking up my external drive
[17:51] <sfranken> Arizon: dd, or Startup Disk creator
[17:51] <sfranken> oats: CSM? No clue
[17:51] <ash547> Hi Hi
[17:52] <sfranken> oats: Google tells me it's "Compatibilty Support Module"
[17:53] <sfranken> Arizon: From the command line "$ sudo dd if=<path to ubuntu ISO> of=<path to usb drive> bs=4M"
[17:53] <EriC^^> CSM means legacy support
[17:53] <EriC^^> it's found on UEFI firmware
[17:53] <sfranken> Arizon: make sure to *doublecheck* the paths, otherwise you might nuke your drive
[17:53] <Arizon> sfranken, that's it just the one command?
[17:54] <EriC^^> oats: what's your problem?
[17:54] <sfranken> Arizon: yup
[17:54] <sfranken> EriC^^ His machine won't boot from USB anymore
[17:54] <ash547> I have wordpress site in ubuntu and i am trying to upload file /var/www/html/site1 with common user but all the file file owner will be this user only. how can i upload file with www-data ownership??
[17:54] <Arizon> sfranken, thanks i'll try it out, the distro i'm trying to write over is linux mint
[17:54] <EriC^^> oats: are you selecting usb uefi from the boot options?
[17:54] <Arizon> sfranken, the commands should be the same?
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> !mint | Arizon
[17:55] <sfranken> Arizon: Yes. Just change the paths to match
[17:55] <Arizon> kk
[17:55] <mitt> Arizon, I think you can deal without bs=4M
[17:55] <sfranken> Arizon: true, what mitt said. dd if=<path> of=<path> works too
[17:55] <oats> EriC^^: Hey, I'm trying that revised partitioning that you and Mic recommended last night, and trying to boot again from USB. For some reason, now after (maybe coincidentally) Ubuntu is installed, the USB isn't showing up in the boot options.
[17:55] <sfranken> old habits die hard
[17:56] <EriC^^> oats: i dont remember you having uefi/gpt
[17:56] <oats> EriC^^: UEFI/Legacy Boot priority has Legacy First
[17:56] <Arizon> sfranken, btw what is bs = 4M?
[17:56] <sfranken> Arizon: BitSize
[17:56] <Arizon> ah kk
[17:56] <EriC^^> you had 2 msdos partitions that's why i said to boot the other installation,
[17:57] <EriC^^> if you had uefi you'd have to deal with efi partitions and what not
[17:57] <mitt> Arizon, from man:  read and write up to BYTES bytes at a time
[17:57] <EriC^^> oats: is the bios set to legacy mode right now? does the ubuntu installation boot normally?
[17:57] <oats> EriC^^: What do you mean msdos paritions?
[17:57] <oats> And yes, priority is legacy, and ubuntu boots fine
[17:58] <Arizon> sfranken, dd failed to open 'media/nonroot/ubuntu_part' : is a directory
[17:58] <DarthShader> Hey guys. I'm curious whether running Kubuntu (full install) from a USB drive is a supported thing.
[17:58] <sfranken> Arizon: The path should be "/dev/<usbkey>"
[17:58] <sfranken> Arizon: Not the mounted folder
[17:58] <EriC^^> oats: try a different usb port
[17:58] <Arizon> ah kk
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> DarthShader: what you mean by supported?
[17:59] <oats> EriC^^: Why do you say so? Ubuntu detects my device and it loads fine, so I don't think the port is fried.
[17:59] <DarthShader> It's just that my Kubuntu USB install no longer boots; I'm wondering whether it's the flash drive or just something I'm not "supposed to do".
[17:59] <Arizon> sfranken, /dev/sdb1 is it
[17:59] <EriC^^> oats: what do you mean it loads fine?
[17:59] <sfranken> Arizon: So, that'd be "$ sudo dd if=<path to Ubuntu ISO> of=/dev/sdb"
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> DarthShader: can you give us more details of what you did exactly
[18:00] <sfranken> Arizon: make sure the entire drive is empty and you're cool with having no more data on there!
[18:00] <oats> EriC^^: All the ubuntu unpacked iso files are in there
[18:00] <oats> and it says its bootable
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> DarthShader: you made a kubuntu usb stick portable?
[18:00] <Arizon> sfranken, thanks! if there's an iso already there will it just be overwritten?
[18:00] <sfranken> Arizon: The entire DISK will be overwritten
[18:00] <mcphail> DarthShader: there are difficulties, such as drives changing names (fixed by using UUID in fstab) and USB drives taking too long to come online during boot process (fixed by hacking init scripts or systemd equivalent)
[18:00] <sfranken> Arizon: Which is why I'm uring you to be cautious
[18:01] <EriC^^> oats: ok, try a different port
[18:01] <el3> Hi when I do a apt-update I get alot of output like this. W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/multiverse/binary-armhf/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80] and Err http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main armhf Packages   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80].... I dont think I am even on a armhf device. I am a bit noob onthis help
[18:01] <Arizon> sfranken, well it's an external that hold nothing important so i'm not too worried :P
[18:01] <Olxd_> Im a noob hacker ;(
[18:01] <EriC^^> oats: when you boot it just skips the usb?
[18:01] <Arizon> sfranken, i hit enter and now i'm just waiting now?
 disconnected all NTFS drives, loaded up OS from DVD, installed to USB, removed DVD. Install survived multiple reboots. Removed USB, connected my NTFS drives, booted into Windows. Removing NTFS drives and booting from the connected USB stick no longer works.
[18:01] <sfranken> Arizon: Yup
[18:02] <Arizon> sfranken, ahh i forget the command to have it show the progress bar, i knew at one point T_T
[18:02] <oats> EriC^^: yep,
[18:02] <Arizon> sfranken, eta 20 min you think?
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> DarthShader: see what mcphail said :p
[18:02] <Olxd_> what is this all about maybe i can help?
[18:02] <sfranken> Arizon: Depends on the speed of your harddrive
[18:02] <Arizon> sd
[18:02] <oats> EriC^^: oo, I put it in another USB port and it appeared. Why did this happen? The other one works fine with the USB in ubuntu.
[18:02] <Arizon> ssd
[18:02] <EriC^^> oats: ok, is the usb selected before the hdd in the boot order?
[18:02] <sfranken> Arizon: ~20 minutes
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> Olxd_: this channel is for ubuntu supporting questions
[18:03] <mitt> Arizon: probably no more than 10
[18:03] <oats> EriC^^: Yes
[18:03] <EriC^^> oats: i dont follow
[18:03] <EriC^^> oats: it worked in another port?
[18:03] <oats> yes
[18:03] <EriC^^> ok
[18:03] <oats> I clicked enter and now I get
[18:03] <sfranken> Arizon: the progress bar is PV, but that won't work with dd
[18:03] <EriC^^> so it booted?
[18:03] <Olxd_> ohhhh okay !
[18:03] <oats> "exF \n Remove disks or other media. \n Press any key to restart"
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> oats: thats because of usb 2 en usb 3.0
[18:03] <Olxd_> im new to ubuntu you see
, <mcphail> My USB stick is plenty fast (it's ssd-on-a-stick, really, with super-high random 4k read-writes), so it can't be the speed. How do I do the UUID in fstab thing?
[18:04] <oats> lotuspsychje: What do you mean?
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> !uuid | DarthShader
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> oats: meaning changing usb ports can do magic sometimes
[18:05] <mcphail> DarthShader: the speed of your disk doesn't matter: if the boot process tries to access the disk before it is brought up it will fail. As for UUID, have a look in /etc/fstab and see if there are lines containing UUID
[18:05] <oats> lotuspsychje: I installed ubuntu on this usb last night via that same usb port I don't get why it's not working no
[18:05] <oats> w
[18:06] <sfranken> oast: Computers can be weird ;)
[18:06] <el3> Can anyone help me with my question
[18:06] <Roni787> what is the best web admin panel for ubuntu server?
[18:06] <EriC^^> oats: it probably still works, just isn't booting
[18:06] <DarthShader> oats: I have a similar problem, it seems.
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> !aptlock | el3 maybe this?
[18:06] <oats> EriC^^: "exF \n Remove disks or other media. \n Press any key to restart" now whenever I start
[18:06] <oats> DarthShader: Damn computing
[18:07] <el3> lotuspsychje, okey ty I will try
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> el3: did you try apt clean and apt-get update also?
[18:07] <el3> lotuspsychje,  no, should I try that first?ð
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> el3: sure whatever does the trick
[18:08] <EriC^^> oats: do you have a boot options menu
[18:08] <oats> EriC^^: I can get one and the first option is my KINGSTON USB
[18:08] <oats> otherwise due to the boot priority it automatically loads
[18:08] <oats> either way I get "exF \n Remove disks or other media. \n Press any key to restart"
[18:09] <EriC^^> oats: ok, are there other ports you can try?
[18:10] <EriC^^> oats: i think the usb needs to be md5sum checked
[18:10] <oats> EriC^^: Nope, just these two
[18:10] <oats> What does that mean?
[18:10] <DarthShader> oats, EriC^^: I get the same thing during boot from my USB, with same settings (sandisk usb as the top boot priority)
[18:10] <el3> lotuspsychje, did tryboth options, still armhf 404 messages
[18:10] <oats> And this worked last night
[18:10] <oats> remember EriC^^, when you helped me install ubuntu last night
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> el3: http://askubuntu.com/questions/298177/a-failed-to-fetch-error-occurs-when-apt-get-update-is-run-how-do-i-fix-this
[18:10] <oats> and the usb work in that port same everything except windows 8 was the primary os
[18:11] <jhutchins_wk> oats: When you installed, did you run the installer or just write an iso image to it?
[18:11] <oats> jhutchins: ran the installer
[18:11] <oats> it is bootable
[18:11] <oats> according to ubuntu
[18:11] <jhutchins_wk> oats: The drive is obviously working in that you're getting the shutdown message from the live image.
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> oats: is this dualboot or singleboot ubuntu?
[18:11] <oats> singleboot ubuntu
[18:11] <oats> acutally
[18:11] <oats> there are two paritions
[18:11] <EriC^^> oats: check that all the files are still there
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> oats: did you not forget to disable fastboot?
[18:11] <oats> each of which have a copy of ubuntu
[18:12] <oats> I don't know why
[18:12] <oats> how do I disable fastboot? I think I did
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> check your bios
[18:12] <jhutchins_wk> oats: That has nothing to do with it.
[18:12] <muaazc> ive recently update my ubuntu to 14.04 and since the update  my monitors display isnt working. the monitor picks up a source but nothing is diplayed
[18:12] <jhutchins_wk> oats: What you are seeing in the live image shutdown messsage, which is inconsistent with your having run the installer.
[18:13] <oats> Boot mode is: Quick
[18:13] <oats> other options is Diagnostic
[18:14] <Olxd_> Where can i learn all the pern/hacking skills for a newbie any books>?
[18:14] <Arizon> sfranken|away, i'm trying to boot to the external harddrive but it's not working, i set it as both boot from USB FDD and USB HDD
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> !security | Olxd_
[18:15] <oats> I am redownloading ubuntu maybe the dl as corrupted
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> Olxd_: the man pages of a specific package can be usefull to learn
[18:16] <jhutchins_wk> oats: The download site should have a file that has the checksums for the iso images, you can verify without downloading the image again.
[18:16] <muaazc> ive recently update my ubuntu to 14.04 and since the update  my monitors display isnt working. the monitor picks up a source but nothing is diplayed
[18:16] <oats> download'll be done soon anyway
[18:16] <jhutchins_wk> oats: Sounds like it's booting but going immediately to shutdown mode.
[18:17] <oats> any idea why?
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> muaazc: did you try grub recoverymode?
[18:17] <jhutchins_wk> oats: You should still check it.
[18:17] <EriC^^> oats: there's a file in the usb itself called md5sum
[18:17] <EriC^^> i think it has the md5sum of all files
[18:17] <oats> how do I access the checksubs
[18:17] <wpd> I can't get my application running on a Ubuntu 14.04 system to generate a core file.  Can anybody help me figure out why?  /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern contains "core", "ulimit -a" shows "unlimited" for all the core file size & file size.  Where else should I look?
[18:17] <smartass> hi, could you please recommend a set of video tutrials that introduce components of a Linux desktop like X server, etc.
[18:17] <oats> sums
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> !md5 | oats
[18:17] <tomshreds> Hi, I mainly develop web apps and I'd require a neat solution to monitor them. I already have a server monitoring app but I cannot find the right tool to debug sql queries, error pages, etc. I found appneta which sounds the most like what I'm looking for. I already tried newrelic in the past but I am looking for something better. Any suggestions?
[18:17] <EriC^^> hold on ill try to piece something
[18:17] <mcphail> muaazc: at what point int he boot process do you lose the picture on the monitor?
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> smartass: whats your end goal to learn?
[18:18] <jhutchins_wk> smartass The Linux System Administrator's Guide is an excellent general resource: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html
[18:18] <smartass> jhutchins_wk: looking for video tutorials though
[18:18] <jhutchins_wk> smartass: Linux Acadamy - not free.
[18:19] <oats> EriC^^: Is the correct checksum on the website anywhere
[18:19] <bmcchristian> ubuntu 14.04 laptop battery died, system boots and gets to login screen, login fine but nothing loads. stuck in a suspended mode i think. Any ideas?
[18:19] <muaazc> mcphail: i dont even get a picture
[18:19] <jhutchins_wk> bmcchristian: Boot to single user/recovery mode and investigate.
[18:19] <smartass> lotuspsychje: giving resources to a friend so that she understands what `ssh -X ` does
[18:19] <mcphail> muaazc: do you get the text of the bootloader?
[18:20] <bmcchristian> tried that, fsck give clean root volume report and then hangs forever
[18:20] <el3> Okey I tried editing my /etc/apt/source.list, generated a new sources.list here http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php and still errors about armhf. I dont even think I am on a armhf device
[18:20] <muaazc> lotuspsychje: what is that? and how do u do it?...im new to linux
[18:20] <EriC^^> oats: just go to the usb, open a terminal in that dir and type md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -i failed
[18:20] <EriC^^> oats: if any files dont match they should show up
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | muaazc
[18:21] <bmcchristian> jhutchins_wk: tried that, fsck give clean root volume report and then hangs forever
[18:21] <muaazc> mcphail: not on my monitor
[18:21] <Arizon> whenever i try to boot from usb it says corrupted iso / os but the checksums match
[18:21] <EriC^^> oats: the checksum on the site is for the iso as a whole
[18:22] <bottazzini> ubottu: help
[18:22] <bottazzini> !patience
[18:22] <oats> EriC^^: I downloaded a new ISO, I'm presently on my windows computer
[18:22] <EriC^^> Arizon: try to do an integrity check from the usb when it boots
[18:23] <mcphail> muaazc: hold down the right shift key as the machine boots. Do you get the bootloader now?
[18:23] <Arizon> EriC^^, how do i do that?
[18:23] <bmcchristian> ubuntu 14.04 laptop battery died, system boots and gets to login screen, login fine but nothing loads. stuck in a suspended mode i think. Booted to rescue mode, no real help fsck on root volume fine. Any ideas?
[18:23] <EriC^^> Arizon: hold shift to get a menu and you should get something like integrity check
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | bmcchristian
[18:24] <Arizon> EriC^^, well the current harddrive with the distro boots normally it's just the USB that i'm trying to boot from that's not working
[18:24] <bmcchristian> i did that....
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> bmcchristian: did you try failsafeX and fix broken packages from the recoverymode?
[18:24] <EriC^^> Arizon: if you're in ubuntu right now and the usb is connected try to cd to the dir it's mounted under and type md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -i failed
[18:24] <Arizon> is there a way to just run the iso of a linux distro on the desktop like in windows?
[18:24] <muaazc> mcphail: im currently using my linux on my broken laptop lcd... tell me what tp do and ill boot it up qqagain
[18:24] <EriC^^> Arizon: yes, i know with the usb connected holding shift should get the grub menu for the usb or another menu
[18:25] <bmcchristian> lotuspsychje: have not tried either, from research it appears that ubuntu has this issue when a latop battery dies it gets stuck in the supsend mode it was in
[18:25] <Arizon> it displays only linux mint, linux mint recovery, and mem test, memtest diag
[18:25] <jhutchins_wk> Arizon: You can mount it as a filesystem using loopback, but you can't boot it within a session.
[18:25] <oats> EriC^^: "MD5 check sums are the same" checked the iso
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> bmcchristian: if recoverymode cant help you, reinstall fresh
[18:25] <EriC^^> oats: ok, did you try the md5sum -c .. ?
[18:26] <oats> EriC^^: I'm on windows rn
[18:26] <oats> don't think I have that
[18:26] <jhutchins_wk> bmcchristian: Now if you understood what the boot process for a hibernated system was, you might be able to figure it out.
[18:26] <Arizon> EriC^^, there's linux mint 17 mate 32 bit, recovery, mem test, memtest serial console
[18:26] <EriC^^> oats: cause you said it worked before then stopped
[18:26] <oats> but now im installing this new ISO onto the usb with unetbootin
[18:26] <Arizon> I tried both USB FDD and USB HDD and nothing worked
[18:26] <mcphail> muaazc: hold down the right shift key as it boots. If you get the GRUB bootloader coming up press "e" to edit the boot commands. Remove the words "quiet" and "splash" and press f10 to boot. Let me know how far it gets before you lose the picture
[18:26] <jhutchins_wk> !mint
[18:26] <bmcchristian> lotuspsychje: had this issue with ubuntu a few years ago. Fedora on the re-install then.....
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> Arizon: try to install ubuntu 14.04 that will work out fine
[18:27] <Itsko> hi
[18:27] <Arizon> lotuspsychje, that's what i'm trying to do
[18:28] <muaazc> mcphail: ok , 5 minutes
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> Arizon: make an usb from another pc?
[18:28] <EriC^^> Arizon: can you try a different usb?
[18:28] <Arizon> ok according to disk manager there is no file type within the usb, but the partition type is linux bootable
[18:29] <oats> EriC^^
[18:29] <jhutchins_wk> Arizon: Mint is not supported here.
[18:29] <EriC^^> oats: ?
[18:29] <jhutchins_wk> Arizon: If you try a bootable ubuntu image we will be able to give you accurate help.
[18:29] <Arizon> thats what i just did
[18:29] <Arizon> i used dd to write it to the external drive and it worked out with no errors
[18:30] <EriC^^> what was the command?
[18:30] <Arizon> but there's no file system on it according to disk manager
[18:30] <jhutchins_wk> !mac
[18:30] <oats> EriC^^: USB CD, USB FDD, USB HDD, ATA HDD1, PCI LAN REALTEK PXE BO4 D00, ATA HDD0 ST320LT006-9ZV142,ATA HDD2 SAMSUNG MZMPAN024HMCD-000L1, Windows boot manager is the boot order; is that right?
[18:30] <Arizon> sudo dd if=/home/nonroot/iso of=/dev/sdb1
[18:30] <EriC^^> Arizon: drop the 1
[18:30] <master500> hello please can you help me for python ? just 5 minute
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> master500: try the #python guys mate
[18:31] <EriC^^> oats: looks ok i guess
[18:31] <oats> Anything wrong at all? What are all the different USB's you know?
[18:32] <EriC^^> usb cd usb fdd ( floppy i think )
[18:32] <Arizon> EriC^^,  ? why that's the path of the external drive
[18:32] <firebird1> hello
[18:32] <firebird1>  $ ls *[0-9.]*
  this doesnt print following file B damnshit damnshit~ qw
[18:32] <firebird1> why it doesnt print B
[18:32] <EriC^^> Arizon: that's the first partition of the disk, you need to write it to /dev/sdb
[18:32] <oats> EriC^^: USB HDD?
[18:33] <EriC^^> ( sudo parted before issuing that command and make sure of the drive designation )
[18:33] <EriC^^> Arizon: ^^
[18:33] <EriC^^> it can change, use sudo parted -l
[18:33] <jhutchins_wk> !python
[18:33] <Arizon> EriC^^, there's only one partition in the disk
[18:33] <EriC^^> oats: yeah that's the one you need to boot i think
[18:34] <oats> what did you want me to do with the md5 again, what command
[18:34] <jhutchins_wk> Arizon: You need to write the image directly to the disk, not to the partition.
[18:34] <EriC^^> oats: cd to the dir, md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -i failed
[18:34] <jhutchins_wk> oats: md5sum <file.iso>, compare with sum posted @ download site.
[18:35] <Arizon> jhutchins_wk, ok so by writing the image directly to the disk it will by default choose the primary partition?
[18:35] <Arizon> jhutchins_wk, because i have a 27gig partition as primary and unallocated 50 gig that i'm going to have as ntfs later
[18:36] <oats> EriC^^: how does it know which md5 to compare it to?
[18:36] <jhutchins_wk> Arizon: Writing the image to the device replaces anything on it, including the partition table.
[18:36] <EriC^^> oats: md5sum.txt has a list of all the md5sums and the files
[18:37] <Arizon> jhutchins_wk, i did that previously and when i booted back up it was still there when i looked in gparted
[18:37] <jhutchins_wk> Arizon: Then you didn't do it right.
[18:37] <oats> ook
[18:37] <Arizon> i did dd if=<iso location> of=/dev/sdb
[18:38] <oats> What does the md5sum command do,and the pipe with grep?
[18:38] <oats> ok it ran and nothing outputted
[18:38] <EriC^^> oats: ok, the files are good
[18:39] <oats> So what now?
[18:39] <oats> restart
[18:39] <EriC^^> oats: try to dd the iso again
[18:39] <EriC^^> or use unetbootin
[18:39] <oats> dd the iso
[18:39] <oats> what does that mena
[18:39] <oats> mean
[18:39] <oats> EriC^^: I did, this is a new one I just made
[18:39] <EriC^^> oh
[18:39] <oats> with unetbootin
[18:40] <EriC^^> restart then
[18:40] <oats> ok restarted
[18:40] <oats> "exF Remove disks or other media. Press any key to restart."
[18:40] <EriC^^> do you have something else plugged in
[18:40] <EriC^^> a cd rom perhaps?
[18:41] <EriC^^> or fdd ? :P
[18:41] <oats> a charger
[18:41] <oats> The only other memory is the two whatevers inside my computer that the ubuntu's are installed on
[18:42] <jhutchins_wk> Arizon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Install_and_run_Startup_Disk_Creator_alias_usb-creator
[18:42] <EriC^^> ok, i dont know why it's not booting it
[18:42] <jhutchins_wk> oats: You might find that interesting too.
[18:43] <EriC^^> oats: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1334745
[18:44] <EriC^^> oats: seems it might be caused by unetbootin
[18:44] <EriC^^> oats: did you use unetbootin the first time or dd if=.... ?
[18:44] <oats> unetbootin
[18:44] <oats> last night
[18:44] <oats> worked fine
[18:44] <oats> installed two ubuntu's successfully on my computer
[18:44] <EriC^^> aha! so you do confess to installing the second one! :P
[18:44] <oats> guess it broke over night
[18:44] <EriC^^> lol
[18:45] <EriC^^> oats: try sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX
[18:45] <oats> EriC^^: I don't recall installing it, but either way unetbootin loaded it
[18:45] <EriC^^> it's worth a shot
[18:45] <oats> ok
[18:45] <lo0k3r> hello everyone!!
[18:46] <lo0k3r> great to see so many!!
[18:46] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l , and make sure you get the exact name of the usb's drive designation, sdc , etc.
[18:46] <EriC^^> oats: ^^
[18:46] <compdoc> not a fan of unetbootin
[18:46] <oats> ?
[18:46] <oats> I think it's /dev/sdc1
[18:47] <EriC^^> make sure
[18:47] <n88> alright getting ready to pull my hair out on this one... i've been trying to get my external USB netgear WNDA3100v2 to play nicely and it doesn't seem to want to work... I followed a thread that seemed to be the solution but now the only wireless network it will connect to is the guest network and it fails to connect to any networks that require authentication (WPA)... i've installed ndiswrapper and got the broadcom 64 bit .inf file installed with ndiswrapper -
[18:47] <oats> sdc
[18:47] <EriC^^> and also only use the disk's name
[18:47] <Arizon> ok i'm just trying out unetbootin and it can't detect the external harddrive
[18:47] <EriC^^> ok /dev/sdc
[18:47] <Arizon> there's just a /
[18:47] <EriC^^> ( without the 1 )
[18:47] <n88> here is some of the output that might be important: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9885727/
[18:48] <lo0k3r> I am working to deploy laptops to people in my area and have ran into a problem that has likely been covered here: for that i am sorry ahead of time for asking, but i have not been able to locate a solution.
[18:48] <lo0k3r>    	 	 	 	 	 	   Hello   I am currently having trouble with the intel 965 chipset running on Linux Mint 17.1 Rebbecca. When launching chrome the screen will go black and the system seems to be unresponsive. I have looked and found only questions on this issues. We have a deployment of laptops with mint on them and need to make sure they are functioning on this platform properly.   Disabling Hardware acceleration dose not work.
[18:48] <lo0k3r>  Sorry if this has been covered already but I was unable to locate a fix Any help is greatly appreciated   https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/1404858
[18:48] <oats> EriC^^: dd: error reading '/media/oats/kingston': is a directory
[18:48] <EriC^^> oats: ?
[18:49] <EriC^^> oats: what are you typing for dd if=/path/to/iso
[18:49] <oats> oops
[18:49] <EriC^^> oats: it needs to be the path to the .iso
[18:49] <oats> ok
[18:49] <squinty> !mint | lo0k3r
[18:49] <RobertJDohnert> ubottu that bug also affects Black Lab Linux and Ubuntu-GNOME
[18:49] <oats> sec
[18:50] <lo0k3r> i did and they sent me here
[18:50] <oats> EriC^^: How do I format the usb in ubuntu
[18:50] <EriC^^> oats: no need to
[18:50] <NBhostin_> anyone able to explain me why this sets the eth1 as route when i rebot the machine  https://dpaste.de/f08s
[18:50] <oats> it has the unetboonin install not the iso
[18:51] <EriC^^> oats: it's not a problem it will overwrite it
[18:51] <NBhostin_> when i do sudo ifdown --exclude=lo -a && sudo ifup --exclude=lo -a after reboot its good again
[18:51] <oats> ok
[18:51] <oats> I'd still like to know how to format a usb :p
[18:51] <EriC^^> oats: man mkfs
[18:52] <oats> EriC^^: Isn't dd supposed to be "used to build a linux filesystem on a device.."
[18:53] <EriC^^> oats: dd is disk dump
[18:53] <EriC^^> infer what you wish
[18:53] <EriC^^> :P
[18:53] <oats> which one unpacks an ios
[18:53] <oats> the mkfs description looks like it does that doesn' ti
[18:53] <lo0k3r> 176 people here thats great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:53] <lo0k3r> 1776
[18:54] <X123> hah
[18:54] <X123> 99% idle :)
[18:54] <Linuxman> yea
[18:54] <lo0k3r> guys need help with this issue
[18:54] <lo0k3r> 965 intel chipset
[18:55] <NBhostin_> goddamn everytime i rebote it sets the internal ip as gateway.....
[18:55] <EriC^^> oats: dd is a low level copier, it can make bit for bit copies it works on block levels
[18:55] <oats> ook
[18:55] <EriC^^> oats: it will copy the bootstrap, partition table, etc.
[18:55] <EriC^^> not just the files
[18:56] <NBhostin_> anyone very good at this? i so hate networking :P
[18:57] <oats> ook
[18:57] <oats> I ran dd
[18:57] <oats> I've been on this for ~3 hours now
[18:57] <oats> how do I know i dd is working
[18:58] <lo0k3r> it sits but ts working
[18:58] <lo0k3r> run comand and wait
[18:58] <mcphail> oats: you can send it signals from another shell
[18:58] <oats> mcphail: how
[18:58] <EriC^^> oats: sudo kill -USR1 $(pgrep dd)
[18:59] <EriC^^> it should be done in a few mins anyways
[18:59] <oats> what does that do?
[18:59] <oats> (eric)
[18:59] <oats> doesn't kill kill a process
[18:59] <baube> hey guys, I tried to install the NVidia drivers and locked my self out of my PC. I get blackscreen on boot (with the cursor blinking) and CTRL-ALT-F1 (to F12) doesn't work.
[18:59] <baube> My grub is also in silent splash
[18:59] <EriC^^> no kill sends signals
[18:59] <n88> if everything seems to be failing with this netgear external USB wifi device broadcom chipset BCM4323 which happens to be the only unlisted version here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx should i be compiling ndiswrapper from source and trying again (like some posts have said on the forum) or is that a waste of time
[18:59] <mcphail> oats: find the PID of the dd process and send "kill -USR1 $PID"
[19:00] <oats> "By default, the message sent is the termination signal, which requests that the process exit. "
[19:00] <mcphail> oats: that's why you use -USR1 rather than default
[19:00] <oats> o, I thought USR1 was the user its running on
[19:00] <oats> what does it do
[19:01] <oats> anyway EriC^^, it finished
[19:01] <mcphail> oats: it sends the USR1 signal the the dd process, of course! dd has been programmed to report its progress when it gets the signal
[19:02] <EriC^^> oats: ok, try to restart
[19:02] <oats> EriC^^: The usb doesn't look any different. In fact, the .iso I built from is still in there
[19:02] <oats> should I remove the iso file?
[19:02] <EriC^^> it doesn't matter i think
[19:02]  * mcphail wonders what disk oats has overwritten...
[19:02] <EriC^^> you can if you want
[19:03] <EriC^^> actually yeah it's odd that it's there
[19:03] <oats> ok restarting
[19:03] <Arizon> make startup disk feels like it's taking forever...
[19:03] <Arizon> it's been erasing for 15 min
[19:03] <oats> maybe it's because dd didn't have to overwrite, as there is no iso file from the install
[19:03] <EriC^^> i guess it's cause it has the same partition table
[19:03] <Arizon> the drive is 118gb but there's only 1 gig written to it...
[19:04] <oats> ok I think it worked
[19:04] <EriC^^> oats: i think it did overwrite
[19:04] <EriC^^> oats: hopefully it was due .. great
[19:05] <oats> EriC^^: now for mik's tutorial
[19:05] <oats> [00:47] <miklcct> 1: boot from USB [00:47] <oats_ubuntu> also I don't remember installing ubuntu twice, what if the other install is some failed corrupted install [00:47] <miklcct> 2. mount the partitions [00:47] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: if both are hdd's i dont think it matters [00:47] <miklcct> 3. do a "cp --recursive --preserve=all" [00:47] <miklcct> 4. modify "/etc/fstab" [00:47] <miklcct> 5. chroot and install-grub
[19:05] <oats> I am on step 2 now
[19:05] <EriC^^> oats: i think reinstalling would be best
[19:06] <EriC^^> you can get a list of the packages you installed already, and have them installed again in the fresh system
[19:06] <EriC^^> since it's a fresh install anyways
[19:06] <oats> I imagine that would be easy, but I think it might be a good exercise in mounting and obscure linux things I don't know about"
[19:07] <EriC^^> oats: well, we can obliterate the mbr and reinstall grub if you want later
[19:07] <EriC^^> lol
[19:07] <oats> I read tutorials for mounting, cp, and /etc/fstab/ and chroot a few hours ago, not anticipating the trouble with the boot
[19:07] <Arizon> has anyone ever had a problem with startup disk being stuck on erase?
[19:07] <EriC^^> seriously though, you will have to not copy /proc/kcore and other files it will be a mess
[19:07] <oats> What do you mean? Why wouldn't I copy those?
[19:08] <EriC^^> kcore is your memory
[19:08] <EriC^^> and proc run sys dev are virtual file systems created at boot time
[19:09] <mcphail> Arizon: yes - it is a buggy, useless program
[19:10] <oats> can't I just empty "20 GB volume", copy everything from "316 GB volume" to it, empty "316 GB volume", copy everything from home into it, and mount "316 GB volume" to the "20 GB volume" system's /home/?
[19:10] <oats> :p
[19:10] <mcphail> Arizon: I've found it inly works reliably on a fresh reboot, format the drive to FAT and install without erasing
[19:10] <mcphail> *only
[19:10] <oats> Why can't it be that easy haha
[19:11] <n88> alright getting ready to pull my hair out on this one... i've been trying to get my external USB netgear WNDA3100v2 to play nicely and it doesn't seem to want to work... I followed a thread that seemed to be the solution but now the only wireless network it will connect to is the guest network and it fails to connect to any networks that require authentication (WPA)... i've installed ndiswrapper and got the broadcom 64 bit .inf file installed with ndiswrapper -
[19:11] <n88> here is some of the output that might be important: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9885727/
[19:11] <mcphail> oats: what are you actually trying to do? Whatever it is, I;m sure there's an easier way...
[19:11] <oats> there is
[19:11] <oats> EriC^^: Is it possible for me to do it Mik's way?
[19:13] <Arizon> mcphail, so just cancel the erase?
[19:13] <Arizon> mcphail, what should i use to format?
[19:14] <Arizon> i'm using gparted right now and should i ave partition table as msdos?
[19:14] <mcphail> Arizon: cancel it and reboot. It doesn't work properly without the reboot (not sure if log in/out works). I usually format with gparted. You just need a FAT partition to install files onto
[19:15] <mcphail> Arizon: msdos partition table will be fine, with a single primary partition
[19:15] <EriC^^> oats: yes it's possible i guess
[19:15] <Arizon> mcphail, the primary harddrive has a ext4 110 gig, extended 1.75 ig, and a linux swap 1.75
[19:16] <oats> EriC^^: Can you help :p
[19:16] <Arizon> mcphail, i thought i had to make my external ext4 as well
[19:16] <EriC^^> oats: ok
[19:16] <oats> yay
[19:16] <EriC^^> first use rsync and --exclude
[19:16] <mcphail> Arizon: yes, but aren't you using the external disk as the install disk>
[19:16] <oats> he says "2. mount the partitions"
[19:16] <Arizon> mcphail, yes
[19:16] <mcphail> ?
[19:16] <Arizon> mcphail, in windows i always used FAT32, is there a difference?
[19:16] <oats> rsync
[19:17] <oats> ?
[19:17] <mcphail> Arizon: then, for the time being, you'll need it as FAT(32). Startup disk creator writes the files to a FAT partition
[19:18] <Arizon> what is align to for in gpart?
[19:18] <Arizon> mcphail, it's right now in MiB but there's 2 other options
[19:18] <oats> ah, alright
[19:18] <mcphail> Arizon: not needed for these purposes. Just ignore
[19:18] <oats> which files do I exclude?
[19:18] <pc-moon> i have run hotspot by ubuntu and everything is ok but my mobile cant see the wifi
[19:18] <oats> EriC^^: And what did mik mean by '2. mount the partitions"?
[19:19] <EriC^^> oats: yes it's a copying tool, it will checksum the files after it copies them, it also uses a differencing algorithm which is pretty cool
[19:19] <EriC^^> ( in other applications )
[19:19] <no_gravity> hello! the internet connection on my laptop became strangely laggy. how would you guys go about finding the reason? my other computer that goes throug the same router is working fine.
[19:19] <Arizon> mcphail, and after i do this i can just use dd to write the iso onto the disk? or should i just use usb-write?
[19:19] <EriC^^> oats: type sudo parted -l and check the 2 ext4 partitions
[19:20] <Arizon> mcphail, err i mean Startup Disk creator
[19:20] <iptable> no_gravity: 1. did it just start happening, 2. did it start happening after a boot/reboot, 3. did it start happening after update/upgrade/reinstall?
[19:20] <iptable> Arizon: use startup disk creator
[19:20] <EriC^^> oats: type sudo mkdir /mnt/installation /mnt/home
[19:20] <iptable> Arizon: it will correctly install the liveCD/USB onto your usb disk
[19:20] <oats> EriC^^: Both are ext4, am I supposed to mount them to something? :p
[19:20] <samueldmq> hi, is there an specific channel to talk about python-flake8 ? (https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-flake8/+gethelp)
[19:21] <no_gravity> iptable: it started happening today. yes, i did an "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" today.
[19:21] <iptable> samueldmq: tried #python ?
[19:21] <EriC^^> oats: yes mount the 300gb disk to /mnt/home and the other to /mnt/installation
[19:21] <EriC^^> or /mnt/root
[19:21] <samueldmq> iptable, will try, thanks ... just got #ubuntu on that link above
[19:21] <oats> EriC^^: Where, in the USB ubuntu demo, 316gb volume or 20gb volume, do I make /mnt/home and /mnt/installation
[19:21] <iptable> no_gravity: so it started after a package upgrade. which packages did you upgrade? was kernel a part of this upgrade?
[19:22] <EriC^^> oats: open a terminal and type sudo mkdir /mnt/home /mnt/installation
[19:22] <oats> EriC^^: Are you sure? I'm presently running on the USB
[19:22] <no_gravity> iptable: i have no idea. i just did "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" like i always do.
[19:22] <EriC^^> yes
[19:22] <oats> ok
[19:22] <EriC^^> they will stay on the disks :P
[19:22] <iptable> no_gravity: it makes sense to read what upgrade tells you is going to do...
[19:23] <oats> ok done
[19:23] <oats> Why am I mounting them on the usb?
[19:23] <iptable> no_gravity: you could try booting into grub menu and choosing an older kernel to begin with (hold eiher ctrl or shift or alt during boot ... I can't remember which one). Then choose advanced options for ubuntu and choose a kernel 1-older than latest one on your list.
[19:24] <EriC^^> oats: you're in a live session right now, you're mounting them in the live session, it's like you're making a dir that you can access that file system under
[19:24] <no_gravity> iptable: no way to diagnose if it really is the kernel?
[19:25] <Arizon> iptable, when it says sotred in reserved extra space.... if i have it at 0 then will that mean i can't save anything to the external?
[19:25] <MannyLNJ> Hi. I'm trying to install a printer on my ubuntu desktop and need some help. I installed the software from http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/laserjet/hp_laserjet_p1006.html but I can't tell if it's working. I have no screen on the compuiter it's attached to only ssh and Remote Desktop availible
[19:25] <Arizon> iptable, i plan on making the external drive a fully operational ubuntu distro that i can do stuff on
[19:25] <iptable> no_gravity: there is: boot into 1 older kernel. If that doesn't have an issue, boot back into latest. if that has an issue - its the kernel (or more drivers in the kernel)
[19:26] <iptable> Arizon: if you want to install ubuntu ONTO the external drive (as opposed to using it as livecd/usb), then during installation choose btrfs/ext4
[19:27] <no_gravity> iptable: im running a pretty customized grub menu. not sure if i can boot inta an older kernel.
[19:27] <iptable> no_gravity: if you customize your grub menu and perform apt-get upgrade without reading the output, I would guess you can figure out how to make it boot an older kernel...
[19:27] <nullbyte_> j fedora-social
[19:27] <oats> EriC^^: But I can already access them in the /media/oats/ dir
[19:27] <iptable> no_gravity: just modify it again...
[19:27] <Arizon> iptable, so what's the stored in rserved extra space for then?
[19:28] <oats> they show up under the devices
[19:28] <iptable> Arizon: reserved space on ext4?
[19:28] <Arizon> iptable, what's that mean though? what's the point of reserved space?
[19:28] <EriC^^> oats: oh, unmount them in nautilus
[19:29] <oats> EriC^^: what's the difference?
[19:29] <EriC^^> oats: it will facilitate stuff
[19:29] <oats> nautilus?
[19:29] <EriC^^> oats: yes, the file manager
[19:29] <Arizon> iptable, no in startup disk it says "When starting up from this disk, documents and settings will be: "
[19:29] <oats> and is sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda/ /mnt/root right?
[19:29] <iptable> Arizon: space reserved for root/system. You want it to be 5% more or less.
[19:29] <Arizon> iptable, then there's 2 options "Stored in reserved extra space" and "Discarded on shutdown, unless you save them elsewhere"
[19:30] <Arizon> iptable, ok so 2 gig is more than enough?
[19:30] <EriC^^> oats: no need for ext4, and did you make the /mnt/root dir?
[19:30] <oats> yeah
[19:30] <iptable> Arizon: so you are making it a liveusb/livecd, not a fully functional ubuntun installation?
[19:30] <oats> EriC^^: Okay I unmounted them
[19:30] <EriC^^> oats: and you need to specify the partition /dev/sda1 or sda2 .. etc.
[19:31] <oats> EriC^^: I'm not sure which one
[19:31] <iptable> Arizon: lieUSB/CD will not allow you to upgrade for example as the kernel is part of the boot process on the read-only ISO system etc. know what you want to do first. also installing GPU drivers is out of the question on it
[19:31] <oats> maybe sda1?
[19:31] <oats> and the docs say you need to follow mount -t with the filesystem type
[19:32] <EriC^^> oats: what's the size and file system type?
[19:32] <EriC^^> oats: sudo parted -l
[19:32] <Arizon> iptable, i want to make a fully functional installation
[19:32] <iptable> oats: you don't need -t, mount should figure it out, it's good like that
[19:32] <EriC^^> oats: that doc was last updated in dec 2004
[19:33] <oats> sda number 1 is 316 gb
[19:33] <iptable> Arizon: in that case, you need to boot the installer form a CD/USB stick and install ubuntu to your external drive. Not put a liveusb installer on it.
[19:33] <EriC^^> oats: ok, mount that under /mnt/root or /mnt/installation
[19:33] <Arizon> iptable, wait so i need another external media so i can install this?
[19:33] <oats> do I need -t?
[19:33] <EriC^^> oats: no
[19:33] <iptable> oats no
[19:33] <iptable> Arizon: yes
[19:33] <Arizon> iptable, if that's the case then i'm just gonna write over the current harddrive on this spare computer
[19:34] <Arizon> iptable, ahh kk i was confused
[19:34] <iptable> Arizon: you cannot install ubuntu for a media that has ubuntu installer on it.
[19:34] <Arizon> iptable, you can only do it to other media
[19:34] <Arizon> iptable, right?
[19:34] <iptable> yes
[19:34] <iptable> well, you *can* do it if you use separater partitions etc, but that gets confusing for most part
[19:34] <oats> EriC^^: ok I think it mounted
[19:34] <iptable> Arizon: ^
[19:35] <MannyLNJ> Would someone please help me with a printing problem.
[19:35] <EriC^^> oats: ok, get the other file system and mount it under /mnt/home
[19:36] <iptable> MannyLNJ: "but I can't tell if it's working" - try printing something?
[19:36] <oats> EriC^^ ok
[19:36] <MannyLNJ> iptable: I don't know how to print.  How do I find out the name of the printer? I am CLI impared and the GUI I got up looks different than the local GUI
[19:37] <sevard> Hey guys.  Is there a version of the live CD without an "install to HDD" option?  My sister wants to try out linux on a live CD but I'm afraid her kids will overwrite her HDD.
[19:37] <Arizon> iptable, :D thanks for the information it all works now!
[19:37] <iptable> MannyLNJ: uhm, use the different GUI to start gedit or some other text editor, press ctrl+p and print?
[19:37] <oats> EriC^^: now wat
[19:38] <MannyLNJ> iptable: I did not know about gedit. I've been using ssh to connect. I'm tying to use a laptop with a cracked lcd as a print server
[19:38] <iptable> MannyLNJ: or use this (found by typing in "ubuntu print from cli" into google...) http://askubuntu.com/questions/432746/print-from-command-line
[19:38] <oats> sync --exclude="" --exclude="" /mnt/root /mnt/home/
[19:38] <oats> ?
[19:38] <iptable> oats: rsync
[19:39] <EriC^^> oats: you want to erase /mnt/root completely first
[19:39] <iptable> why --exclude=@@ ?
[19:39] <EriC^^> iptable: he's doing something you dont want to know
[19:39] <EriC^^> lol
[19:39] <iptable> EriC^^: as, one of those ... rsync has a switch that will erase from destination too, archive I think
[19:40] <oats> EriC^^ I'm pretty sure mn/root contains all of my settings and packages and files and all
[19:40] <EriC^^> oats: your stuff should be on the home one right?
[19:40] <EriC^^> that's the one you were booting, right?
[19:40] <EriC^^> the large disk
[19:40] <oats> root is the 287 gb one
[19:41] <oats> home is the 16 gb one
[19:41] <EriC^^> hmm that is wrong
[19:41] <oats> should I switch the names?
[19:41] <iptable> EriC^^: oats: rsync -a << the -a will ensure that user permissions are copied and stuff in destination is deleted that doesn't exist in source etc
[19:41] <EriC^^> you first mounted the large disk at /mnt/root remember?
[19:41] <EriC^^> oats: type df -h
[19:41] <EriC^^> iptable: yup
[19:42] <iptable> EriC^^: I'll let you battle the checking if the mounts are correctly done, something smell screwy ;)
[19:42] <oats> sda1 is mounted on root
[19:42] <EriC^^> how big is it?
[19:42] <oats> sdb1 is mounted on home
[19:42] <oats> sdb1 is the small one
[19:42] <oats> sda1 is the big one
[19:42] <iptable> how is root 287GB? :O
[19:42] <EriC^^> crap, i'm tired
[19:42] <oats> :p
[19:43] <EriC^^> oats: sorry, sudo umount /mnt/root
[19:43] <oats> EriC^^: Can't I just rename the mounts?
[19:43] <EriC^^> sudo mount --move /mnt/home /mnt/root
[19:43] <Arizon> what exactly can a live cd do that a full install can't? can i still save documents and system changes on a live cd? or no?
[19:43] <iptable> oats: if you want to opy partitions, why not use clonezilla instead?
[19:44] <iptable> Arizon: the liveCD will not allow you to effectively store system changes.
[19:44] <oats> iptable: not sure
[19:45] <RedheadedCupcake> I am trying to get netflix to work on 14.04 LTS I'm at the part where I have to accept the EULA, I can't scroll to accept
[19:45] <iptable> Arizon: the reason is that the OS needs to load from a read-only storage before it loads your reserved space for changes (your customizations). By that time, it's too late. Full install doesn't have this issue, hence all software installs and upgrades work on full install
[19:45] <iptable> RedheadedCupcake: it doesn't work
[19:45] <RedheadedCupcake> iptable, i have had it working before
[19:45] <iptable> RedheadedCupcake: netflix is fully supported by chrome on ubuntu 14.10 though. it has got all that is required for DRM and HTML5 playback, which is nice, fast, smooth and dynamic.
[19:45] <lo0k3r> try use html 5 in settings instead of silver light
[19:46] <oats> EriC^^: okay, now what
[19:46] <RedheadedCupcake> iptable, so chromium?
[19:47] <EriC^^> oats: did you sudo mount --move ? and umount before that?
[19:47] <iptable> RedheadedCupcake: stable firefox on 14.04 doesn't support HTML5 DRM and stable so libraries don't either from what I remember. Chromium was not much luck either without patching, although I haven't tried that in ages. 14.10 with chrome works out of the box.
[19:47] <RedheadedCupcake> iptable also can you tell me how to accept it because I'm stubborn and I want to see it not work for me
[19:47] <oats> EriC^^: Yep
[19:47] <EriC^^> oats: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/root
[19:47] <Arizon> iptable, i'm getting an error when i try to install ubuntu along side my other distro
[19:47] <oats> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/root
[19:47] <lo0k3r> RedheadedCupcake:  http://www.dailylinuxnews.com/blog/2014/09/watch-netflix-on-linux-mint-debian-fedora-arch/
[19:47] <iptable> RedheadedCupcake: uhm, click accept. scroll down first to the bottom of the EULA to get the accept to work
[19:47] <EriC^^> wait
[19:47] <lo0k3r> you may have seen this
[19:47] <RedheadedCupcake> I've tried arrows, I've tried page up page down
[19:47] <iptable> RedheadedCupcake: also, if you cannot scroll down - it's not working
[19:47] <RedheadedCupcake> I've tried clicking
[19:47] <Arizon> iptable, "file system is reporting the frespace as 3563630, not 3563629 clusters"
[19:47] <EriC^^> oats: sorry, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/home
[19:47] <Arizon> iptable, is this off by one error a big deal?
[19:48] <Pici> RedheadedCupcake: tab ?
[19:48] <RedheadedCupcake> pici tab is the magic button! Thank you
[19:48] <iptable> Arizon: uhm, no idea. where what when. is this an actual error message? no? continue then.
[19:48] <oats> e
[19:48] <oats> EriC^^: ok
[19:48] <MannyLNJ> Ok, the printer is working, How can I share it so I can see it on the Windows system
[19:49] <EriC^^> oats: bare with me, i'm a bit sleep deprived tonight :D
[19:49] <oats> it's alright haha
[19:49] <iptable> MannyLNJ: connect tothe local print server via a web interface and configure sharing
[19:49] <oats> are you sure 14.9 gb is big enough for root
[19:49] <Arizon> iptable, it says warning not error
[19:49] <iptable> MannyLNJ: for printing form windows, you will need samba sharing of printer instead. install samba server and configure.
[19:49] <EriC^^> oats: it should be ok
[19:49] <EriC^^> oats: if you want, you can remove the swap and leave the one on the other disk
[19:49] <iptable> Arizon: I would need a screenshot. I can't read your mind where you are at and what you are doing...
[19:50] <EriC^^> since there are 2 swaps
[19:50] <oats> erm, should I?
[19:50] <iptable> did you backup?
[19:50] <iptable> oats: ^
[19:50] <oats> how do I rsync and what do I exclude now?
[19:50] <oats> iptables: backup what
[19:51] <iptable> oats: your data before doing all this
[19:51] <oats> nah
[19:51] <iptable> oats: good luck then!
[19:51] <neutralizer> is there any tool to test vulnerabilities against windows server?
[19:51] <oats> nothing is being deleted
[19:51] <EriC^^> iptable: it's a fresh install
[19:51] <iptable> ok
[19:51] <oats> I have some files and packages I installed
[19:51] <lo0k3r> many
[19:51] <iptable> neutralizer: yes
[19:51] <oats> that should be preserved in the copy I think
[19:52] <neutralizer> iptable, what'd you suggest which is probably open source
[19:52] <neutralizer> by vulnerabilities I mean all found in CVE or whatever repository which is most used. I don't even know which is that
[19:53] <iptable> neutralizer: try metasploit
[19:53] <oats> EriC^^?
[19:54] <iptable> neutralizer: otherwise, here is a comprehensive list: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxSecurityTools.html
[19:54] <iptable> there is no one-tool-fits-all though
[19:55] <neutralizer> iptable, thanks I'll look
[19:55] <lo0k3r> Neutralizer: http://www.fastandeasyhacking.com/
[19:55] <lo0k3r> good start
[19:56] <neutralizer> is the shittiest site I have seen in a long time, no offense
[19:56] <lo0k3r> lol
[19:56] <oats> the artwork is nice
[19:56] <oats> like anime
[19:57] <lo0k3r> hhhyyyyahh
[19:57] <leonic> hello
[19:57] <iptable> uhm, not really. you want hacking/vulnerability/scanner tools, don't expect sites that look newer than 1980s. that's on purpose
[19:57] <neutralizer> may be just not my taste
[19:57] <BluesKaj> looks amateur
[19:57] <leonic> problem whit unrar  i can't open rar files
[19:57] <iptable> leonic: apt-get install unrar
[19:57] <oats> that's true
[19:57] <iptable> leonic: are they password protected?
[19:58] <lo0k3r> neutralizer if your testing your sys kali and pentoo are the way to go
[19:58] <lo0k3r> as all prob know
[19:59] <leonic> i don think so
[19:59] <EriC^^> oats: type cd /mnt/root
[19:59] <iptable> kali: ubuntu/debian with a funky-looking-gui and preinstalled opensource packages ;)
[19:59] <leonic> but  i am goint to chek
[19:59] <oats> ok
[19:59] <EriC^^> oats: make sure everything is mounted correctly with df -h
[20:00] <iptable> and check mount command
[20:00] <iptable> just mount, without parameters
[20:00] <oats> small one is on root
[20:00] <neutralizer> lo0k3r, thanks I have seen kali but never used it, will it work fine in a VM?
[20:00] <oats> big one is on home
[20:00] <Arizon> iptable, i think it's working but how long would a resizing of a primary partition take?
[20:00] <iptable> Arizon: ages.
[20:00] <Arizon> iptable, T_T eta?
[20:01] <lo0k3r> yes
[20:01] <Arizon> iptable, i mean it is a SSD
[20:01] <neutralizer> BTW did you guys watch Citizenfour Snowden movie?
[20:01] <iptable> Arizon: it needs to first move stuff away from area that will be freed further to the top of the partition, then resize filesystem, then resize partition
[20:01] <iptable> Arizon: the moving WILL take ages, SSD or not
[20:01] <lo0k3r> and pentoo may be a bit better because of custom needs
[20:01] <no_gravity> looks like switching channels worked!
[20:01] <oats> iptables: I don't think I was ever cognizant of that trend in retro styles: http://1337day.com/
[20:02] <EriC^^> oats: ok, did you cd /mnt/root ?
[20:02] <lo0k3r> just be sure to enable networking in the VM client
[20:02] <lo0k3r> check box usually
[20:02] <oats> EriC^^: Yes, I'm in root
[20:02] <neutralizer> I will enable networking
[20:02] <EriC^^> oats: type rm -r * .* , note the space between * and .*
[20:02] <Arizon> iptable, 1-2 hours is a generous estimate?
[20:03] <EriC^^> oats: sudo rm -r * .*
[20:03] <iptable> Arizon: how many GB/TB?
[20:03] <leonic> no is nop a pass problem
[20:03] <EriC^^> oats: make sure you are in /mnt/root
[20:03] <Arizon> iptable, the harddrive holds 111gig theres about 15gig of actual stuff written on it
[20:03] <oats> descend into write-protected directory 'bin'?
[20:04] <oats> EriC^^: Weren't there some files you said we had to preserve?
[20:04] <EriC^^> oats: type sudo rm -rf * .*
[20:04] <iptable> Arizon: so 15GB of used data? should be up to an hour max.
[20:04] <EriC^^> oats: no that's the small one you're going to transfer your installation to
[20:04] <Arizon> iptable, all kk thanks
[20:04] <oats> ook
[20:05] <iptable> ook is a very weird programming language
[20:05] <leonic> they are cbr files i can open some but not al
[20:05] <oats> EriC^^: Cannot remove directory '.'
[20:05] <iptable> http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/ook.html
[20:05] <LordDragon> hey all. is there any way to reset Unity WITHOUT being in an X11 session?
[20:05] <leonic> and the ones that opesn are empty but they  have weight
[20:06] <EriC^^> oats: no problem, when it's done type ls -la /mnt/root
[20:06] <iptable> EriC^^: won't rm -rf .* remove ..* on match, i.e. top directory contents? I may be wrong.
[20:06] <LordDragon> when i login normally i get the GUI but an empty desktop
[20:06] <LordDragon> ctrl alt f1 etc doesnt work
[20:06] <LordDragon> all i can do is get terminal via the recovery boot mode
[20:06] <LordDragon> but it seems all the tools for resetting unity require x11 to be running
[20:06] <iptable> LordDragon: you get that once you login or don't even get a login prompt?
[20:07] <oats> EriC^: okay, now what
[20:07] <LordDragon> nope. i get a normal login prompt. im in the gui
[20:07] <LordDragon> but when i login
[20:07] <LordDragon> i just get the wallpaper and an empty desktop
[20:07] <iptable> LordDragon: if after login, go to console, create a new user and login to GUI via that new user. confirm that this bit works (so we know if it's global or user-specific settings)
[20:07] <LordDragon> i cant get to console from the desktop
[20:07] <otaviobarreto> hi
[20:08] <LordDragon> ctrl alt t or f1 or any of that doesnt work right
[20:08] <jhutchins_wk> LordDragon: Does Alt-F2 bring up the launcher window?
[20:08] <iptable> LordDragon: after that, doing login screen, click on the small icon next to user-password prompt bit, where you can choose your GUI (unity/unity-classic/last-x-session) and try unity and unity classic. see where you get with that
[20:08] <LordDragon> no
[20:08] <otaviobarreto> yeah
[20:08] <iptable> LordDragon: you said you can get console from recovery boot. do that. OR ctrl_alt_f2 when you see login prompt screen
[20:09] <LordDragon> ctrl alt f2 does not work at th elogin prompt either. i just get a black screen with no cursor or text
[20:10] <EriC^^> oats: what's in /mnt/home ?
[20:10] <iptable> LordDragon: try ctrl+lt+f2 through to f6
[20:10] <iptable> LordDragon: on each screen press ENTER to see if that brings the login prompt
[20:10] <LordDragon> iptable: i did. all give blank black screen with no text mode
[20:11] <oats> EriC: I imagine everything from the large 290 gb disk
[20:11] <LordDragon> how do i create a new user from console?
[20:11] <iptable> LordDragon: then I don't think it's your GUI. something else seems very wrong.
[20:11] <EriC^^> oats: ok type sudo rsync -av /mnt/home /mnt/root
[20:11] <iptable> LordDragon: useradd/adduser, then passwd username to change password
[20:11] <EriC^^> oats: i dont think /proc sys run dev are there cause it wasn't booted
[20:11] <EriC^^> you can ls -l /mnt/home to check
[20:12] <oats> ok well I already ran rsync
[20:12] <oats> why not cp?
[20:12] <alexandros_c> hello, I am having a problem with ubuntu 14.04.1, I installed ubuntu on acer aspire 3810tz with a kingston hyperx 3k 250GB SSD and 8GB of RAM, it installs ok but ever so often with no indictor the dash and launcher will lockup and I am unable to log out of the system (even through another tty) or open another program. The only way to recover is to force a hard reboot. Another has any idea how to  resolve this
[20:12] <alexandros_c> issue? thanks
[20:12] <LordDragon> iptable: done. and how can i give it sudo prilvedges?
[20:12] <EriC^^> oats: if you want you can --exclude /mnt/home/home , cause you're going to leave the files there anyways
[20:12] <iptable> LordDragon: add it to admin group.
[20:12] <EriC^^> oats: rsync will checksum the files after it copies them
[20:13] <oats> EriC^^: I already ran rsync, don't think I can exclude
[20:13] <oats> Why do we want to checksum?
[20:13] <iptable> LordDragon: user useradd or usermod
[20:13] <LordDragon> iptable: got i thanks
[20:13] <iptable> oats: because you want to make sure it copied them correctly?
[20:13] <LordDragon> it*
[20:14] <iptable> rsync worksl ike that. its fast too
[20:14] <jhutchins_wk> alexandros_c: Do you have lm_sensors installed?  You could use a monitor to watch the temperature of the system - that's often what happens when a system gets too hot.
[20:14] <alexandros_c> jhutchins_wk: it is a default install, and no error is shown
[20:15] <acmeraptor> I opted for drive encryption on a re-install.  Following a reboot, is it possible to enter that key via a remote ssh session? Like any files I can update, it doesn't seem to allow it by default.
[20:15] <iptable> acmeraptor: no
[20:15] <oats> EriC^^: When do I modify /etc/fstab?
[20:15] <oats> is that the next step?
[20:15] <iptable> acmeraptor: you need to decrypt disk before you can boot into it and run ssh
[20:16] <LordDragon> iptable: you are right. its something worse. new user has empty desktop too after login... hmm
[20:16] <iptable> acmeraptor: hence most people only encrypt /home or /whatever/is/important. that way they can ssh in and enter password via ssh session
[20:16] <alexandros_c> jhutchins_wk: it is not the tempurature
[20:16] <iptable> LordDragon: yes. Looks like your have blown something in your system. what HAVE you done?
[20:17] <iptable> alexandros_c: nice assumption. now check.
[20:17] <oats> EriC: it finished
[20:17] <acmeraptor> iptable: That's kinda what I thought, thanks.  I'm debating reinstalling, or I can just not reboot remotely.
[20:17] <alexandros_c> iptable: I have checked
[20:17] <iptable> acmeraptor: on my server, my root is not encrypted and my /var/lib/lxc and /var/lib/libvirt are.
[20:17] <EriC^^> oats: ok
[20:17] <acmeraptor> Although... encrypting my files only is probably just as secure.
[20:18] <iptable> alexandros_c: how? from BIOS? too late, it will have cooled down by then. CPU temperature changes really fast
[20:18] <jhutchins_wk> alexandros_c: How do you know it's not a thermal issue?
[20:18] <EriC^^> oats: now delete everything in /mnt/home except for /mnt/home/home
[20:18] <LordDragon> iptable: no idea lol. the last thing i did was try to install a mouse driver for razer mouse
[20:18] <iptable> acmeraptor: yes, I don't care if someone knows what packages were installed
[20:18] <iptable> LordDragon: how did you try to do that?
[20:18] <EriC^^> oats: type sudo find /mnt/home ! -iname "home" -exec rm '{}' \;
[20:19] <acmeraptor> Exactly.  Re-install time! :)  Thanks again!
[20:19] <LordDragon> iptable: think it was an install script. think im just gonna nuke it and reinstall
[20:19] <iptable> alexandros_c: what's the graphics card btw? if it's nvidia or so, install proprietary driver to stop the machine using your CPU for graphics processing. it often causes overheats of CPU and/or GPU with opesource drivers on nvidia
[20:20] <amberj> Hello
[20:20] <alexandros_c> because it  is not doing with other distros and I checked the temp under othe distros and it was no problem, iptable and jhutchins_wk
[20:20] <iptable> LordDragon: good idea. it seems to have nuked your system...
[20:20] <oats> EriC^^: Could not remove lots of things because "is a directory"
[20:20] <alexandros_c> iptable, it is using intel graphis
[20:20] <iptable> alexandros_c: ubuntu's unity uses 3D acceleration though ;)
[20:20] <amberj> I'm trying to create an iptables rule so that only one particular URL is accessible (E.g. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.gm)
[20:21] <EriC^^> oats: add -rf , rm -rf '{}'
[20:21] <fry__> Is there a way to show hard drives on my desktop?
[20:21] <iptable> alexandros_c: does it happen with xubuntu or ubuntu's unity-fallback or other GUIs?
[20:21] <alexandros_c> it does not happen on Sabayon
[20:21] <iptable> amberj: impossible
[20:22] <iptable> amberj: iptables is a layer3 firewall not a web proxy. if you want that, you need a transparent/forced web proxy and iptables that blocks non-proxy access (proxy like squid)
[20:22] <oats> EriC^^: ook, could you explain to me the structure of that command
[20:22] <oats> and it's done
[20:22] <iptable> alexandros_c: I mean does it happen on ubuntu when using other GUIs than unity
[20:22] <oats> Should I unpack all the files from /home/home/ home into mnt/home/
[20:22] <oats> ?
[20:23] <alexandros_c> have not tried that  ones you mentioned iptable, but it has been running Sabayon KDE all day and I have not experience the problem nor is their plenty of fan activity
[20:23] <amberj> iptable, Would this not work for me? http://serverfault.com/questions/218707/iptables-rules-to-allow-http-traffic-to-one-domain-only
[20:23] <amberj> When I try to run: 'sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -d "https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.gm" --dport 443 -j ACCEPT' ... I get "iptables v1.4.12: invalid mask `details?id=com.google.android.gm' specified"
[20:23] <jhutchins_wk> alexandros_c: Not to be obtuse, but if the temp was ok on other distros AND the problem was not happening on other distros, that implies that it could be thermal.
[20:24] <iptable> alexandros_c: in ubuntu, install kde then and run that for a while. if it doesn't hang - it was overheating most likely on unity, or possibly network issues (disable unity's online search)
[20:24] <chulis> is there any problem if i install ubuntu32 on a laptop amd64?
[20:24] <jhutchins_wk> alexandros_c: Hard lock-ups are almost always hardware related in reliable distros.
[20:24] <EriC^^> fry__: gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.desktop volumes-visible true
[20:24] <iptable> amberj: no, it will not work. iptables can only block by IP (so it can block by domain as domain will map to IP). It cannot block by URL
[20:25] <oats> EriC^^: What?
[20:25] <iptable> chulis: no
[20:25] <iptable> chulis: 64 is compatible with 32 bit software
[20:25] <MannyLNJ> I had posted that the printer is working, and asked  How can I share it so I can see it on the Windows system but missed any answers because my girlfriend called me away
[20:25] <EriC^^> oats: nothing, that's for fry__ he left i guess
[20:25] <amberj> ok thanks iptable :)
[20:25] <k1l_> chulis: if your hardware can go with 64bit there is no reason to not install 64bit
[20:25] <amberj> lemme try some proxy
[20:25] <amberj> brb
[20:25] <alexandros_c> how so jhutchins_wk when the other DE also uses GPU acceleration and  also once I reboot after the problem it does not happen
[20:25] <jhutchins_wk> MannyLNJ: Sharing it in cups should make it visible to WIndows.
[20:25] <fry__> exit
[20:25] <wad> MannyLNJ, you probably need to use samba.
[20:25] <iptable> MannyLNJ: so let me repeat: to share with windows, isntall samba server and configure printer sharing in it's configs
[20:26] <MannyLNJ> iptable: and jhutchins_wk thanks.
[20:26] <oats> EriC^^: ook, what do I do now
[20:26] <iptable> MannyLNJ: for sharing with linux, confiure in cups (http://localhost:631 I tihnk goes to cups config page on local machine)
[20:26] <alexandros_c> plus I used ubuntu beofre on this computer with having this problem jhutchins_wk
[20:26] <jhutchins_wk> iptable: I don't think samba's necessary, windows can use ipp.
[20:26] <chulis> my reason is  that my distribution is not stable on my lapton
[20:27] <jhutchins_wk> chulis: No, not a problem, but not likely to help.
[20:27] <iptable> chulis: that would not be 32/64 bit issue
[20:27] <k1l_> chulis: i doubt that is because its 64bit.
[20:27] <jhutchins_wk> alexandros_c: iptable's idea is a good one, try a different desktop and see if it still hangs.
[20:27] <MannyLNJ> I think samba is installed because I was able to edit the config for samba but I can't find CUPS in LXPanel which I use when I connect remotley
[20:28] <jhutchins_wk> alexandros_c: I like xfce myself.
[20:28] <chulis> i have tried with xubuntu64 and lubuntu 64 and same prblems
[20:28] <k1l_> chulis: what actual issue do you have there?
[20:28] <iptable> chulis: it's a HW issue most likely.
[20:28] <EriC^^> oats: yes, we need to move everything
[20:28] <iptable> chulis: dome a memtest?
[20:28] <alexandros_c> ok thanks iptable and jhutchins_wk
[20:28] <chulis> some times the op.system fall down
[20:29] <oats> EriC^^: everything is in /mnt/root/home/
[20:29] <iptable> MannyLNJ: please read everything I typed in for you...
[20:29] <oats> how do I move it out of home and into root
[20:29] <jhutchins_wk> MannyLNJ: Cups is at localhost:631
[20:29] <chulis> hw issue? my laptop is new
[20:29] <k1l_> chulis: we need specific error messages and more infos. so after a problem come here again and show the logs like "dmesg" and "syslog" and we can have a look and maybe solve it.
[20:29] <MannyLNJ> iptable: I will scroll up
[20:29] <jhutchins_wk> MannyLNJ: That is the problem with relying on GUI panels, they can only do what the person who built them wants to do.
[20:29] <iptable> chulis: new/used is irrelevant
[20:30] <chulis> no error messages
[20:30] <redruum> chulis: New hardware is usually an issue with linux
[20:30] <k1l_> chulis: its just guessing without any specific errormessages from the logs
[20:30] <jhutchins_wk> chulis: New hardware is the most likely to fail.
[20:30] <iptable> chulis: tried ubuntu 14.10 instead?
[20:30] <k1l_> chulis: what happens if its "not stable"?
[20:30] <OerHeks> chulis, what laptop exactly ? maybe there is more info
[20:30] <iptable> it's got a lot of driver improvements for new HW
[20:31] <adelo> hello
[20:31] <jhutchins_wk> chulis: All of the systems you've tried are just ubuntu with a different desktop, for a real test you'd have to try something like fedora live.
[20:31] <leonic> hello again i am in a live session and  now i can install unrar
[20:31] <chulis> acer e16 amd quad core a6 up to .4gh and 4hbddr3
[20:31] <chulis> up to 2.4ghz
[20:31] <jhutchins_wk> !es
[20:32] <oats> EriC^^: How do I move everything from /mnt/root/home/ to /mnt/root/
[20:32] <oats> and then mount the home folder
[20:32] <k1l_> chulis: what happens when its "unstable"? what program is that is making problems?
[20:32] <EriC^^> oats: you mean /mnt/home/home to /mnt/home ?
[20:32] <lo0k3r> leo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&x-yt-cl=84503534&v=hAFvAcXXfFg
[20:32] <iptable> chulis: try ubuntu 14.10. try running memtest. try booting into fedora, try to pinpoint at which moment the problem occurs (what apps are starting/ running).
[20:33] <iptable> chulis: now, go and do all that
[20:33] <chulis> when i m navigating with firefox
[20:33] <chulis> for ej.
[20:33] <lo0k3r> whoops ow well everyone watch that
[20:33] <oats> EriC^^ no /mnt/home/ is empty, /mnt/root/home/ contains the whole system for some reason, including my home dir
[20:33] <k1l_> chulis: what happens then?
[20:34] <EriC^^> oats: that doesn't make sense
[20:34] <iptable> chulis: does it happen on websites with loads of flash and adverts?
[20:34] <chulis> when im navigating for ej. the computer close
[20:34] <EriC^^> oats: you just deleted everything in /mnt/home except for /mnt/home/home
[20:35] <chulis> and i have to init again
[20:35]  * jhutchins_wk certainly hopes oats has backups of anything important.
[20:35] <oats> EriC^^ I deleted /mnt/home/home after I found that it was empty
[20:35] <iptable> chulis: close? you mean turn off?
[20:35] <chulis> yes
[20:35] <chulis> turn off
[20:35] <oats> I guess it kept the home/home dir but removed all of the sub dirs
[20:35] <iptable> chulis: install lm-sensors and check temperature. 70% sure it's overheating
[20:35] <k1l_> chulis: can you provoke that error again and after reboot (if you need to reboot) come again and show the logs? so we can see what was the issue
[20:35] <chulis> looking for a air ticket for example
[20:35] <EriC^^> oats: crap, yeah you're right
[20:35] <oats> anyway, for some reason everything is in /root/home not /root/
[20:35] <EriC^^> oats: it's a good thing it's in /mnt/root though
[20:36] <oats> EriC^^: What command would've prevented that?
[20:36] <iptable> chulis: if you have nvidia, also install the nvidia proprietary drivers to ensure the GPU does not overheat on bad drivers
[20:36] <oats> and what do I do now
[20:36] <EriC^^> i really shouldn't be helping out tonight, i've not slept since yesterday and im sweating like a pig for some reason
[20:36] <chulis> i have amd radeon r4
[20:37] <oats> EriC^^: If you die, it'll be helping a good person on freenode.
[20:37] <EriC^^> lol
[20:37] <iptable> not sure what the driver should be for radeon, but check and install it. install lm-sensors and run sensors and monitor temperature. could be bad fan.
[20:37] <iptable> chulis: ^
[20:37] <oats> EriC^^: So what do I do now?
[20:37] <k1l_> fglrx is the amd video driver
[20:37] <iptable> chulis: ^
[20:37] <EriC^^> everything is in /mnt/root?
[20:37] <chulis> it turns off any time even looking a video or navigating with fireox
[20:37] <lo0k3r> :)
[20:38] <iptable> chulis: you have been given enough troubleshooting steps to do. now execute.
[20:38] <EriC^^> oats: ok, we can do it the very easy way
[20:38] <oats> EriC^^: /mnt/root/home/
[20:38] <oats> I don't know why
[20:38] <EriC^^> oats: type gksu nautilus /mnt/root/home
[20:39] <oats> no package gksu
[20:39] <oats> unable to locate package gksu from apt-get
[20:40] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install gksu doesn't work?
[20:40] <oats> nope
[20:40] <lo0k3r> gksudo from synaptic
[20:40] <chulis> how can i see the log after turn off with trouble?
[20:40] <Ben64> its in universe
[20:40] <EriC^^> ok, usually you should always use gksu with gui apps, but since you're in a live session it wont really matter
[20:40] <k1l_> chulis: in /var/log they are named: dmesg.0 or .1 and syslog .0 or .1
[20:40] <EriC^^> oats: type sudo nautilus /mnt/root/home
[20:41] <EriC^^> oats: never do that in your installation though
[20:41] <oats> why not?
[20:41] <EriC^^> it'll mess up permissions
[20:41] <oats> what does gksu do?
[20:42] <EriC^^> Ben64: ah, thanks
[20:42] <EriC^^> oats: gksu is in the universe repository
[20:42]  * iptable needs to go
[20:42] <oats> ok
[20:42] <oats> anyway
[20:42] <oats> I have the nautilus gui open
[20:42] <oats> what no
[20:42] <oats> w
[20:42] <chulis> where can i post the log?
[20:43] <Ben64> !paste | chulis
[20:43] <EriC^^> oats: ok, press ctrl+h to show all files
[20:43] <oats> done
[20:43] <EriC^^> oats: then press ctrl+a to select all, right click, cut
[20:43] <EriC^^> go one level back to /mnt/root
[20:43] <EriC^^> and paste
[20:44] <EriC^^> oats: since we're moving it will keep the permissions the way they are
[20:44] <chulis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9887287/
[20:45] <n88> alright getting ready to pull my hair out on this one... i've been trying to get my external USB netgear WNDA3100v2 to play nicely and it doesn't seem to want to work... I followed a thread that seemed to be the solution but now the only wireless network it will connect to is the guest network and it fails to connect to any networks that require authentication (WPA)... i've installed ndiswrapper and got the broadcom 64 bit .inf file installed with ndiswrapper -
[20:45] <n88> here is some of the output that might be important: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9885727/
[20:45] <oats> ok
[20:45] <oats> EriC^^: Should I delete nome?
[20:46] <k1l_> chulis: do you have the ubuntu fglrx video driver installed?
[20:46] <oats> or copy /root/home files to /home/
[20:46] <oats> ?
[20:46] <chulis> no idea kll_
[20:47] <k1l_> chulis: ok: go to system-settings > updates&software. then the last tab "prop. drivers or smth like this" there you can choose to install a amd driver for your video card.
[20:47] <k1l_> chulis: it should be named "fglrx".
[20:47] <EriC^^> oats: hmm
[20:48] <EriC^^> oats: we need to send them to /mnt/home
[20:48] <EriC^^> dont copy though it will mess up the permissions
[20:48] <oats> ok
[20:48] <oats> ok
[20:48] <oats> so what do I do
[20:48] <EriC^^> and you cant move cause it's across file systems so it will also mess them up
[20:48] <chulis> i was lookin for in synaptic and appeas not installed
[20:48] <EriC^^> oats: you'll have to rsync it
[20:48] <oats> EriC^^ but cp -p will preserve permissions won't it?
[20:48] <k1l_> chulis: did you find the menu i was talking about? its very user friendly to understand
[20:49] <Nemesis][> Does anyone have any idea why netstat-nat doesn't work under 14.04.01?  It complains about "Could not read info about connections from the kernel, make sure netfilter is enabled in kernel or by modules." but the modules are loaded but neither /proc/net/ip_conntrack nor /proc/net/nf_contrack exist.  The modules: nf_conntrack, nf_defrag_ipv4, nf_conntrack_ipv4 are loaded.
[20:50] <EriC^^> oats: yeah but rsync will also checksum
[20:50] <Giggiolo> erver irc.darksin.net
[20:50] <MannyLNJ> iptable: thanks for all the help. Locally I can access CUPS but by going to 192.168.1.200:631 but from the other systems can't see it
[20:51] <oats> EriC^^: okay, what's the command?
[20:53] <EriC^^> oats: sudo rsync -av /mnt/root/home/. /mnt/home
[20:54] <anarkhos> what do you think about nvidia accelerated graphics driver (version 96) vs. nvidia binary xorg driver (and kernel module as well as vdpau library)?
[20:54] <anarkhos> the former is at any rate too old for steam
[20:55] <oats> RtiC: ok what next
[20:55] <oats> EriC^^*
[20:56] <EriC^^> oats: remove everything from /mnt/root/home
[20:56] <EriC^^> cd to it and type rm -rf * .*
[20:57] <oats> ok
[20:57] <oats> EriC&&
[20:57] <oats> ^^
[20:57] <oats> EriC^^
[20:58] <oats> mount /mnt/home /mnt/root/home?
[20:58] <EriC^^> oats: type sudo nano /mnt/root/etc/fstab
[20:58] <krizoek> what could make the computer freeze and show "kernel: [109620.067118] Code: 3d a1 29 00 3b 05 ff 8d c3 00 89 c2 0f 8d 25 fe ff ff 48 98 49 8b 4d 00 48 03 0c c5 60 33 d1 81 f6 41 20 01 74 cb 0f 1f 00 f3 90 <f6> 41 20 01 75 f8 eb be 0f b6 4d d0 48 8b 55 c0 44 89 ef 48 8b nul nul... in both kern.log and syslog?
[20:58] <EriC^^> oats: in another terminal type sudo blkid
[20:59] <EriC^^> oats: if you still have sudo nautilus open close it
[20:59] <EriC^^> as you can break your system easily
[20:59] <Darole> Can someopne please help.... Fairly new and cant get the SSO thing to work on the forum. I have a ubuntu one account, but the forum says its a problem. Trouble is I've no idea who to contact as I cant post anything to ask for help !
[21:00] <EriC^^> with a drag and drop or something
[21:00] <oats> ok
[21:00] <oats> EriC^^: got fstab and blkid
[21:00] <chulis> ikll_ i have found 3 options first one im using serverx.org other is private amd fglrx and the third amd fglrx-updates prvate
[21:00] <oats> now what
[21:01] <k1l_> chulis: choose the "fglrx" one.
[21:01] <EriC^^> oats: first get the uuid of your installation, as it has changed from disk to disk
[21:01] <k1l_> chulis: its the driver from amd, that should bring you a better hardware support. maybe the freezes are gone then
[21:02] <EriC^^> it's /dev/sdb1 iirc
[21:02] <oats> sdb1?
[21:02] <oats> ook
[21:02] <oats> got it
[21:02] <EriC^^> yeah, replace the uuid that has the mountpoint at "/" in fstab with that uuid
[21:02] <oats> shithsit
[21:03] <oats> shit
[21:03] <oats> 1sec
[21:03] <oats> EriC^^: ok done
[21:03] <oats> now hwat
[21:04] <EriC^^> get the uuid of the home partition
[21:04] <chulis> kll_ i will change and test
[21:04] <chulis> thnks a lot
[21:05] <EriC^^> and make an entry for it that looks like the UUID=2354327543632   /home    ext4          defaults       0       2
[21:06] <oats> EriC^^ ok
[21:07] <oats> EriC?
[21:08] <Bashing-om> Darole: Join #ubuntuforums and explain there ,.. the ops will take care of you .
[21:08] <EriC^^> oats: you'll need to reinstall grub
[21:08] <oats> ok
[21:08] <oats> how
[21:08] <chulis> kll_ i cant change the driver
[21:09] <oats> also what about the chroot thing
[21:09] <chulis> i select but it contnues the same
[21:10] <EriC^^> oats: which swap do you want to use?
[21:10] <EriC^^> oats: it's set up to use the one on the home partition right now
[21:10] <EriC^^> ill brb in 1min
[21:10] <animalroam> When setting a cron job like * * * * * echo php /root/hi.php >> bob.html , how would you "php /root/hi.php" to run and the result is echoed instead of echoing "php /root/hi.php"?
[21:11] <oats> EriC^^: Alright, whichever one you remember
[21:12] <EriC^^> animalroam: what do you mean the result is echo'd ?
[21:12] <oats> EriC^^: Which one do you recommend?
[21:13] <animalroam> EriC^^: The result of the script
[21:13] <EriC^^> animalroam: you are already sending it's stdout to bob.html
[21:14] <animalroam> EriC^^: This is what's in bob.html : "php /root/hi.php"
[21:14] <oats> Which swap should I use?
[21:15] <EriC^^> oats: it's up to you, if you keep use the one on the home disk you can resize the root partition to 20gb or so
[21:15] <oats> Which do you recommend?
[21:15] <EriC^^> i'd use the one on home to give "/" some room
[21:15] <oats> ok how do I do that
[21:15] <oats> and how do I do grub
[21:15] <EriC^^> just leave it the way it is
[21:15] <EriC^^> ctrl+o to save
[21:16] <XYZ1> test
[21:17] <oats> EriC^^ ok now what
[21:17] <EriC^^> and resize "/" later
[21:17] <Bashing-om> Darole: I observed ya joining #ubuntuforums, Did the topic directive help ?
[21:18] <oats> how do I do that
[21:18] <EriC^^> oats: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /run /sys; do mount -B $i /mnt/root$i; done
[21:18] <EriC^^> oats: man resize2fs
[21:18] <oats> What will running that for loop do
[21:19] <EriC^^> oats: it will mount bind the virtual file systems on the live session to the mounted installation
[21:19] <oats> ok
[21:19] <oats> why do we want that
[21:19] <EriC^^> oats: add sudo before do, do sudo mount
[21:20] <EriC^^> i mean after do
[21:20] <oats> ok done
[21:21] <EriC^^> oats: ok type sudo chroot /mnt/root
[21:21] <oats> ok
[21:21] <EriC^^> grub-install --reinstall /dev/sdb
[21:21] <oats> now hwat
[21:21] <animalroam> EriC^^: So do you have any idea how to run the php script and then echo the result of the script?
[21:22] <EriC^^> animalroam: what do you mean by echo the result? echo where?
[21:22] <oats> reinstall isn't recognized
[21:22] <animalroam> EriC^^: echo php /root/hi.php >> bob.html
[21:22] <EriC^^> lol, im really tired :o
[21:22] <oats> --reinstall
[21:22] <EriC^^> oats: grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb
[21:22] <animalroam> echo php /root/hi.php >> bob.html only echoes the string 'php /root/hi.php' but doesn't echo the result of that script
[21:22] <oats> ERic: What does that do
[21:23] <oats> install finished
[21:23] <EriC^^> animalroam: ok, * * * * * php /root/hi.php >> bob.html
[21:23] <EriC^^> animalroam: that will send the result to bob.html
[21:24] <oats> EriC^^: Now what
[21:24] <EriC^^> oats: update-grub
[21:24] <oats> ok done
[21:24] <oats> now what
[21:24] <oats> wait
[21:24] <EriC^^> ?
[21:24] <oats> grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for dev/sdc1. Check your device.map.
[21:24] <oats> done
[21:25] <oats> What's the error mean
[21:25] <EriC^^> it's no problem
[21:25] <EriC^^> it's to do with the live usb
[21:25] <EriC^^> did it mention Found linux ......
[21:25] <EriC^^> ?
[21:25] <oats> ook
[21:25] <oats> ,hm
[21:26] <EriC^^> hm?
[21:26] <oats> It found linux image twice
[21:26] <EriC^^> ok great
[21:26] <oats> and found initrd imge twice
[21:26] <animalroam> hmm
[21:26] <EriC^^> type exit
[21:26] <oats> ok
[21:26] <EriC^^> then restart, go into your bios and select sdb to be booted first
[21:26] <animalroam> ok that works, but let's say I had a function called function.  Would the php script execute first and be passed to the function?
[21:27] <oats> I don't know which one is sdb
[21:27] <EriC^^> it's the one you're not booting right now
[21:27] <oats> I have two options
[21:27] <EriC^^> animalroam: what do you mean?
[21:27] <pbx> i want my screen brightness to be max whe i'm plugged in to AC.  is there a way to do that?  14.04, Dell Latitude E7240
[21:28] <oats> one is the big one and one is the small one
[21:28] <oats> I don't know their names
[21:28] <oats> What is that -l command
[21:29] <mcasado> no puedo poner ubuntu 14.04 en castellano
[21:29] <oats> EriC^^: How do I list the discs I mean
[21:29] <EriC^^> oats: sudo parted -l
[21:29] <EriC^^> pbx: yeah i think you asked me that once
[21:30] <mcasado> hola alguen en castellano plis
[21:30] <EriC^^> pbx: i made this back then http://paste.ubuntu.com/9887923/
[21:30] <animalroam> EriC^^: I have a program called bitcoind.  I need to do bitcoind sendtoaddress /root/address.php 0.0001 where address.php is important for determining the address.  Instead, the program tries to send 0.0001 to the string '/root/address.php'
[21:31] <EriC^^> pbx: put it in /etc/pm/power.d/
[21:31] <pbx> EriC^^, looks familiar. thanks :)
[21:31] <EriC^^> pbx: no problem :)
[21:32] <oats> Eric hopefully it worked
[21:32] <EriC^^> yeah
[21:32] <EriC^^> it would be funny if it didn't though :D haha
[21:33] <EriC^^> lol, i'm just really tired :D
[21:33] <oats> lol
[21:33] <oats> EriC^^: ok the only device it shows is Computer and its 19.7 gb capacity
[21:33] <animalroam> EriC^^: Any ideas :\?
[21:33] <oats> it doesn't show the big one under devices for some reason
[21:33] <mytruehero> I'm not able to get a script (/etc/init.d/unicorn) to start on boot; I've run "sudo update-rc.d unicorn defaults", and the script works when I run it manually ("/etc/init.d/unicorn start"), but if I reboot, the service isn't running. How can I debug?
[21:33] <oats> is that okay?
[21:33] <EriC^^> oats: yeah
[21:33] <EriC^^> so it booted?
[21:33] <oats> mhm
[21:33] <oats> how do we know it accesses home
[21:33] <EriC^^> type df -h
[21:34] <EriC^^> and free -m
[21:34] <skinux> Which is the best software to use for ripping an Audio disc to MP3 format?
[21:35] <MannyLNJ>  Here is my (new) problem. Printer on my linux system is shared in CUPS.  I can print locally on my Linux box but Windows shows the job as being sent CUPS shows it as completed but nothing comes out.
[21:35] <skinux> Strictly for my own listening purposes, not for sharing/pirating
[21:35] <oats> EriC^^
[21:35] <oats> ok
[21:35] <oats> now what
[21:36] <EriC^^> oats: is the swap there?
[21:36] <EriC^^> did you check free -m ?
[21:36] <oats> yep
[21:37] <oats> swap there
[21:38] <larry_> one two
[21:38] <oats> Is a mount sort of like a device-scale symlink?
[21:39] <oats> EriC^^
[21:39] <EriC^^> oats: ok
[21:40] <EriC^^> oats: well, you can resize the root partition
[21:40] <oats> how?
[21:40] <oats> and Is a mount sort of like a device-scale symlink?
[21:40] <EriC^^> you should do that from the live usb though
[21:41] <EriC^^> oats: mount tells the kernel to attach a filesystem under a dir
[21:41] <aarobc> Hi! So, got a new lappy, no ethernet port, only wifi. Wireless worked great on the usb live boot, but after install, when I try to select the propriatary wifi driver, it thinks for a sec, and then switches back to the "do not use this device" option
[21:41] <oats> it says sdb1 is using 20.2 gb
[21:42] <EriC^^> hmm
[21:42] <oats> There appear to be two swaps, one in sda and one in sdb
[21:42] <aarobc> so I wondered if it was some software on the drive, so I selected the cd as a software source, and tried it, and at that point it would just hang and do nothing.
[21:42] <aarobc> What do?
[21:42] <oats> EriC^^: Is that alright/
[21:42] <EriC^^> oats: yeah i guess
[21:43] <oats> Didn't you say it should only be in sda though (home)
[21:43] <oats> ?
[21:43] <EriC^^> can you paste sudo parted -l ?
[21:43] <EriC^^> and df -h ?
[21:45] <oats_ubuntu> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/K5D8QhXa
[21:46] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: ok, it looks good
[21:47] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: if you want to remove the 4gb swap on root's disk, i guess you should boot a live usb
[21:47] <EriC^^> and then resize it
[21:47] <oats_ubuntu> EriC^^: Is there a downside
[21:47] <oats_ubuntu> to me not doing that
[21:47] <oats> ?
[21:47] <EriC^^> not really
[21:47] <EriC^^> um sorry
[21:47] <imbezol> you can just unmount the swap
[21:47] <EriC^^> i'm confused
[21:47] <oats_ubuntu> Sorry for what
[21:48] <ejuan> swapoff
[21:48] <EriC^^> he wants to use the space, he has another swap
[21:48] <oats> imbezol: What about the booting on the live usb
[21:49] <imbezol> oats: i'm thinking it's not really necessary
[21:49] <oats_ubuntu> why not?
[21:49] <EriC^^> oats: 20gb is pretty enough i guess, but if you want you can remove the swap
[21:49] <EriC^^> i thought it was like 14 earlier
[21:49] <oats_ubuntu> EriC^^: Doesn't it say 20 in the pastebin
[21:49] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: it is 20, removing the swap will make it 24gb
[21:50] <oats_ubuntu> that's odd, I thought it was 16 and 20 but apparently it set it to 20 and 4 for the swap
[21:50] <oats_ubuntu> Is there any upside to having a swap there?
[21:50] <EriC^^> yeah it's a more standalone disk i guess
[21:50] <tata> How to install anti-aliasing and hinting to my older Lubuntu 10.04 ?
[21:50] <EriC^^> if you get another home disk some day for some reason you'll still have swap on the root one
[21:50] <oats> alright I think I will keep it for that very good reason :p
[21:51] <EriC^^> :D
[21:51] <oats_ubuntu> thank you very much
[21:51] <oats_ubuntu> for all your help
[21:51] <oats_ubuntu> a few hours last night
[21:51] <EriC^^> no problem
[21:51] <oats_ubuntu> a few hours today
[21:51] <oats_ubuntu> +100 to you
[21:51] <Bashing-om> !lucid | tata
[21:52] <purplec> hello how do i ubuntu
[21:52] <oats_ubuntu> EriC^^: What do you do? Are you a software developer or sysadmin or something
[21:52] <EriC^^> i'm a mechanical engineer
[21:52] <oats_ubuntu> Are you in #physics too then?
[21:52] <imbezol> oats: you currently have swap on spinning disk and SSD
[21:52] <EriC^^> lol no
[21:53] <imbezol> oats: given the huge disparity in their performance i'd recommend against that
[21:53] <tata> yes, kernel still supported, I need some aplication for hinting and antialiasing
[21:53] <oats_ubuntu> EriC^^: What are you on?
[21:53] <EriC^^> channels you mean?
[21:53] <oats_ubuntu> imbezol: How would I remove the bad one then?
[21:53] <oats_ubuntu> EriC^^: Yeah
[21:53] <EriC^^> ##linux and here
[21:53] <oats_ubuntu> Do you mechanically engineer linux systems
[21:53] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: myself i'd delete the 20 gig swap on ssd, expand / to be all but 4 gigs of the drive, then create a 4 gig swap
[21:54] <purplec> where would you suggest to go for beginner programming?
[21:54] <EriC^^> oats_ubuntu: no i've been using linux for about 8 months now
[21:54] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: and stop using the swap on your 7200 drive
[21:54] <EriC^^> i'm a design engineer in automation/industrial stuff
[21:54] <oats_ubuntu> imbezol: How do you know it's ssd? the swap is 4 gigs, the ssd is 20 gigs
[21:55] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: oh sorry i misread the partition
[21:55] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: actually i think your SSD is probably set up properly already
[21:55] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: maybe just get rid of the 7200 swap
[21:56] <oats_ubuntu> What 7200 swap?
[21:56] <imbezol> /dev/sda shows a swap
[21:56] <XiferoDiferous> jkhk'
[21:56] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: run swapon -s to see what's actually in use
[21:57] <oats_ubuntu> imbezol: /dev/sda5                               partition	3748860	0	-1
[21:57] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: and it doesn't show a /dev/sdb5?
[21:57] <oats_ubuntu> EriC^^: Why did you start using nix
[21:57] <oats_ubuntu> nop
[21:58] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: you could do swapon /dev/sdb5 and swapoff /dev/sda5
[21:58] <imbezol> to start using the SSD for swap
[21:58] <MannyLNJ> So I'm frustrated now because I am stupid and can't get a CUPS shared printer to show on my windows PC
[21:58] <oats_ubuntu> imbezol: Why would I do that?
[21:58] <imbezol> performance?
[21:58] <oats_ubuntu> and how do I know sdb is ssd and sda is not
[21:58] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: in your printout of parted -l it shows the drive models
[21:59] <oats_ubuntu> imbezol: I don't see "sdd" anywhere?
[22:00] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: stick the drive model into google
[22:00] <imbezol> the sizes are a giveaway as well
[22:00] <imbezol> 24 GB would be incredibly small for a spinning disk
[22:01] <imbezol> (and an SSD anymore too :)
[22:02] <purplec> would anyone mind sharing on how they learned...is it linux or *nix?
[22:03] <imbezol> *n?x :)
[22:04] <k1l_> purplec: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat.
[22:04] <anarkhos> pumba: fool around in virtualbox? or just install some distro and try to use it for your typical tasks
[22:04] <woozy> hey guys could i get some help
[22:05] <imbezol> depends on your question
[22:05] <purplec> what would be a good channel for programming?
[22:06] <woozy> well i just installed ubuntu from elementary and thought itd be a good idea to do the encryption thing when installing. I now after enter my password to start the boot then i get some errors but it still boots
[22:06] <oats_ubuntu> imbezol: ok so do I want the swap on the big or the small
[22:07] <oats_ubuntu> right now it's on the big
[22:07] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: myself i'd keep it on the small SSD
[22:07] <oats_ubuntu> sda
[22:07] <oats_ubuntu> ok
[22:07] <g4vr0che> purplec: You want to join ##programming
[22:08] <ryan_> where am i ?
[22:08] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: your swap really only gets used when you run out of memory and it has to page some out to disk
[22:08] <oats_ubuntu> Are you sure the sdb isn't too small
[22:08] <oats_ubuntu> wait so why wouldn't I use the bigger one sda since it has more mmeory
[22:08] <oats_ubuntu> or do you mean ram
[22:08] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: well if you look at the partitions, you already have a swap partition there.. you're just not using it
[22:08] <minimec> ryan_: Chat, #ubuntu Channel, Cyberspace ;)
[22:08] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: so i'd say use it instead of wasting it, or delete it and expand /
[22:09] <oats_ubuntu> ok
[22:09] <oats_ubuntu> you sure 4g is big enough?
[22:09] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: swap on SSD is better because swapping things from memory to disk and back will be 10x faster on SSD rather than spinning disk
[22:09] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: how much ram do you have?
[22:09] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: i think general rule is to match your ram
[22:09] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: but it's not a hard and fast rule
[22:10] <oats_ubuntu> I don't know
[22:10] <oats_ubuntu> so the small one is an sds
[22:10] <oats_ubuntu> ssd
[22:10] <oats_ubuntu> and the big one, sda is not
[22:10] <oats_ubuntu> ?
[22:10] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: type "free" on the command line
[22:10] <imbezol> right
[22:10] <oats_ubuntu> Mem:       3609428    2314040    1295388     256696     151072     951304
[22:11] <oats_ubuntu> Swap:      3748860          0    3748860
[22:11] <imbezol> so you have about 4 gigs of memory
[22:11] <imbezol> so 4 gigs of swap is probably just right
[22:11] <oats_ubuntu> how did you compute that
[22:11] <imbezol> the first number is in KB
[22:12] <leonic> hello where the help in spanish? thanks
[22:12] <oats_ubuntu> ook
[22:12] <k1l_> !es | leonic
[22:12] <wafflej0ck_> !es | leonic
[22:12] <nonono> oi
[22:13] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: you can also see in that output that you're currently using 0 swap
[22:13] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: so if you're not typically running anymore than you are at this moment.. perhaps performance for your swap doesn't matter
[22:13] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: in which case maybe you choose to leave it on spinning disk and use the SSD space to expand /
[22:14] <oats_ubuntu> imbezol
[22:14] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: or use your system for a while and monitor so you have a better idea if you ever hit swap
[22:14] <oats_ubuntu> so many options
[22:14] <imbezol> personal preference
[22:14] <oats_ubuntu> I must delegate my reasoning to you
[22:14] <ryan_> hello, i am using ubuntu genome, whenever the computer wakes up, the screen is blank grey and nothing, i have to restart, any help? thanks!
[22:14] <imbezol> lol
[22:14] <oats_ubuntu> what do you think I should do
[22:14] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: use it for a bit and monitor
[22:14] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: then decide what's best for you
[22:14] <oats_ubuntu> how do I monitor
[22:15] <imbezol> free
[22:15] <oats_ubuntu> a linux box is like a pet
[22:15] <imbezol> or get some fancy graphing of your memory via an app
[22:15] <oats_ubuntu> But what would it even show imbezol, if I have a swap running on the spinning disk
[22:15] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: you can also play around with "top" and learn to sort by the various columns so you can see WHAT is using the memory
[22:16] <stryakr> I'm currently running 14.10 and I have the GNome classic DE up, does anyone know why if I hold L_CTRL while in a full screen game like CS:GO, it minimizes?
[22:16] <oats_ubuntu> imbezol don't I have more swap space on the spinning disk
[22:16] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: you'll find things like web browsers, big music players, etc eat up a lot of ram
[22:16] <oats_ubuntu> im using freenode web chat right now
[22:17] <oats_ubuntu> but doesn't ram get freed up after I close ?
[22:17] <imbezol> yup
[22:17] <oats_ubuntu> ok
[22:17] <oats_ubuntu> Why would I decrease swap space with decreasing ram though?
[22:18] <oats_ubuntu> even if the ssd is faster, won't I need the greater swap space capacity of m?y spinning disk to compensate
[22:18] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: your system is only configured to use the spinning disk right now
[22:18] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: so you currently have only 4 gigs
[22:18] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: but the SSD is partitioned with 4 gigs of swap space, that you're not using
[22:19] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: SSD is the best thing you have for performance.. i'm just saying don't waste it
[22:19] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: you probably either want to use it, or retask it for storage
[22:19] <woozy> anyone want to help this fellow?
[22:19] <oats_ubuntu> wait why only 4 gigs?
[22:20] <oats_ubuntu> imbezol: I thought my big 290 gig one would have more swap space, no?
[22:21] <Fun> hey folks
[22:22] <Fun> my cam here act weird on skype black screen
[22:22] <Fun> I can see it in the usb devices list
[22:23] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: look at the parted -l output
[22:23] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: and the output of swapon -s
[22:26] <oats_ubuntu> imbezol: o, I thought it allocates swap space proportionally to the disc space
[22:26] <oats_ubuntu> it does ~4 g by default?
[22:27] <imbezol> oats_ubuntu: i'm not sure how ubuntu's installer sets a default size, but i generally see a swap about equal to ram size
[22:27] <oats> 17:26] <oats_ubuntu> imbezol: o, I thought it allocates swap space proportionally to the disc space [17:26] <oats_ubuntu> it does ~4 g by default?
[22:28] <Aresofze4us> hello
[22:28] <Aresofze4us> anybody here?
[22:28] <Fun> hi
[22:28] <Aresofze4us> Hi Fun...Where are you from ?
[22:28] <woozy> hey someone want to help me
[22:28] <Aresofze4us> with what
[22:29] <g4vr0che> woozy: Maybe. What's wrong?
[22:29] <jhutchins_wk> Aresofze4us: This is the Ubuntu technical support channel.  THere are 1734 people here, most of them real.
[22:29] <g4vr0che> I'm real
[22:29] <jhutchins_wk> !ask
[22:29] <g4vr0che> (I think)
[22:29] <woozy> i divided up my partitions and tried to make one just for /home but i guess when i installed ubuntu it wiped that
[22:29] <Aresofze4us> !patiente
[22:29] <Aresofze4us> !patience
[22:30] <oats> imbeol?
[22:30] <oats> imbezol'
[22:30] <oats> imbezol
[22:30] <Aresofze4us> @jhutchins: thank you
[22:30] <imbezol> 15:27:03 < imbezol> oats_ubuntu: i'm not sure how ubuntu's installer sets a default size, but i generally see a swap about equal to ram size
[22:30] <woozy> i have my whole /home saved on an external harddrive but how do i set it up right
[22:30] <Aresofze4us> I'm a newbie user.... just getting around
[22:30] <oats> ook
[22:30] <oats> thank you very much imbezol
[22:30] <oats> for all your help
[22:30] <imbezol> np good luck
[22:30] <jhutchins_wk> Aresofze4us: If you use the @ tag, it causes nicknames to NOT match so they don't highlight.
[22:30] <oats> are you a software developer or system admin
[22:31] <oats> or linux engineer
[22:31] <imbezol> oats: i've been a sysadmin at times.. just been using linux for ~15 years
[22:31] <woozy> anyone help with my problem?
[22:31] <oats> ook
[22:31] <a0wer> how can I determine which bluetooth profiles are supported with the version of ubuntu i have and the given bluetooth dongle?
[22:31] <jhutchins_wk> woozy: You haven't actually asked anything yet.
[22:31] <oats> well I've been staring at the screen for the most part since 11am
[22:31] <jhutchins_wk> woozy: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[22:32] <oats> 6 hours or so
[22:32] <oats> im off
[22:32] <oats> nice meeting you
[22:32] <imbezol> you too. ttyl
[22:32] <Aresofze4us> jhutchins_wk: okay...sorry
[22:32] <Fun> :)
[22:32] <Fun> any idea how to fix webcam issue?
[22:32] <Fun> :d
[22:32] <jhutchins_wk> !webcam
[22:32] <imbezol> Fun: start by trying a different app to see if the webcam works there
[22:32] <Fun> ty
[22:33] <Fun> imbezol: it does however black and white
[22:33] <Fun> :)
[22:33] <jhutchins_wk> Fun: cheese is good for testing.
[22:33] <woozy> so i followed this instructions and shrunk one partition and made a new one
[22:33] <imbezol> Fun: likely something in the setup of skype then
[22:33] <Fun> cheese?
[22:33] <jhutchins_wk> Fun: Displays the camera output.
[22:33] <jhutchins_wk> Fun: Software, not food.
[22:33] <Aresofze4us> can i put ubuntu or other distro on my android device?
[22:34] <Fun> u got guvcview
[22:34] <Fun> I got
[22:34] <Fun> ok going to check more
[22:34] <Aresofze4us> I have an android tabled.
[22:34] <woozy> i tried to designate the new one as my /home so that it isnt affected in updates and switching os, but it didnt work
[22:34] <k1l_> Aresofze4us: for ubuntu see #ubuntu-touch but mind to read the topic there
[22:34] <Aresofze4us> hmm,the topic is ubuntu?
[22:34] <imbezol> woozy: do you currently have a separate /home in your internal drive? or is it just on your / mount?
[22:35] <Aresofze4us> oh
[22:35] <jhutchins_wk> Aresofze4us: Fairly advanced project. http://www.ubuntu.com/phone
[22:35] <jhutchins_wk> woozy: So what is it that you want to do now?
[22:35] <imbezol> woozy: you can check by typing "mount" or "df -h"
[22:35] <woozy> well i just installed ubuntu so it has the default for that. i have my previous /home saved on an external
[22:35] <k1l_> Aresofze4us: the topic of a irc channel. you see it when entering a channel or type "/topic"
[22:36] <jhutchins_wk> woozy: You can mount that at /home
[22:36] <jhutchins_wk> woozy: We appreciate the background info, but what do you actyually want?
[22:36] <woozy> jhutchins_wk: i want to make /home its own partition like /dev/sda3 so it isnt affected in os switches and things
[22:36] <imbezol> woozy: definitely possible but you're going to have to decide if you want to merge what's in /home now, or just throw away what's in /home
[22:37] <imbezol> woozy: if you throw it away you'd need to be mindful that you could still login
[22:37] <woozy> just throw it away, nothing is in it, i just wiped when installing ubuntu
[22:37] <imbezol> woozy: as in, you wouldn't want to delete your user's homedir and not have something in place
[22:37] <Aresofze4us> Just found out this IRC thingy. Knew it before when i was a gamer... cod4...but first time experiencing this as an adult really a nice tuch to the whole internet thingy :P but anyways since the topic is ubuntu and i really got no clues about it ill head off to some researching
[22:37] <Aresofze4us> got to read some linux books!
[22:38] <Aresofze4us> anways good luck to you people
[22:38] <Aresofze4us> and have a good night/day :)
[22:38] <imbezol> woozy: you could either do it all off a usb stick or do some careful manouevering in your current system
[22:38] <woozy> imbezol: well first id like to un-encrypt the thing i did at the beginning of install that makes me put in password every time i start up computer
[22:38] <imbezol> woozy: like you could create a new user temporarily with /username as their homedir and give them sudo access
[22:38] <imbezol> woozy: or you could temporary set a root password so that if you mess up you can still login
[22:39] <woozy> imbezol: what ever you think would be easier and faster
[22:39] <woozy> i think we would have to deal with the encryption thing first
[22:39] <imbezol> woozy: but basically you want to move /home to /home.bak, make a new /home directory, and create an entry in /etc/fstab to mount your external drive there
[22:39] <woozy> imbezol: well i want to take the stuff off the external drive and put it back onto my computer in its own seperate partition from my boot
[22:40] <imbezol> woozy: sounds like fun. i'd take it one step at a time. fix any booting issues first
[22:40] <imbezol> woozy: ah. you don't want to keep the external drive all the time?
[22:40] <woozy> no i just use it to back up and store other things on
[22:40] <woozy> why don't we deal with the encryption part first
[22:41] <imbezol> woozy: process might look something like mount /external/drive ; mv /home /home.bak, cp -av /external/drive/home /
[22:41] <woozy> and that would replace my /home now with the /home on the drive
[22:42] <imbezol> yup, but still within the / partition. if you want a separate partition that's another whole ball of wax
[22:42] <woozy> well i think i originally tried to go into that ball of wax
[22:43] <woozy> i read about it online and figured itd be good to keep it seperate from my boot partition, but when installing ubuntu i accidentally wiped it
[22:43] <imbezol> so you were saying you have a bunch of errors booting up?
[22:43] <woozy> not really errors but when installing ubuntu i put in the encryption thing. do you know what i mean?
[22:44] <imbezol> woozy: get them into a pastebin so we can see
[22:44] <woozy> ohh you are pushing your luck no buddy. they are when the ubuntu sign is on the screen so i cant really highlight or anything
[22:45] <imbezol> woozy: do they show up when you type dmesg? if not have a look at the logs in /var/log
[22:45] <woozy> its like they encrypted the drive for security so when you start up you have to enter the password you set up
[22:46] <woozy> then it boots and then mine says the one partition was never created. something like LVM_swap_crypt
[22:47] <anarkhos> nvidia_304 is now activated but not in use... should i then open xorg.conf, go to the device section and substitute "nvidia_304" for "default device" in the area after "Identifier"?
[22:48] <imbezol> woozy: ok. i'm not overly familiar with the encrypted bootup process so without logs i can't really give much advice
[22:48] <imbezol> perhaps someone eles can
[22:48] <woozy> imbezol: i have to eat supper so i will be back in 20 minutes, i looked at the logs so i can send the needed ones after i eat. Thanks for the help
[22:48] <imbezol> np. gl
[22:49] <Guma> I was wondering if anyone know how to add mac_addr kernel parameter. I did dd img to sd card form my ARM board
[23:02] <silverlion> have a good one everybody
[23:03] <silverlion> just a quick question: Anyone an idea when the security update for adobe flashplayer (flashplayer-installer) will be available in the ubuntu repositories?
[23:15] <hexafraction> Hi, is there a way to allow a specific user to create a symlink in /dev at any time they want?
[23:16] <hexafraction> If it helps, it is always the same link (not necessarily the same target). The link is being created as a result of running socat and must exist in that specific location.
[23:19] <woozy> imbezol: hey im back and making a pastebin rn. what log do you want?
[23:19]  * ki7rw had to roll back his video card driver to the nouveau video driver to get my display back on ubuntu  - don't know what happened to the other video driver (nvidia-340) - it just stopped working - re-installing the driver worked once and then didn't work on the next boot - re-installing ubuntu 14.04 didn't help either - so now i'm running on the nouveau driver with the lower screen resolution
[23:21] <REdOG> I installed a webapp and configued it in apache2 how do I point apache so that www.myhost.com goes to the proper page at www.myhost.com/app/ instead of www.myhost.com/index.html ?
[23:21] <squinty> ki7rw: had to do the same on a nvidia video based box here after kernel update. seen quite a few similar cases here over the last while.  you can just reinstall the nvidia drivers again with Additional Drivers
[23:22] <squinty> ki7rw: btw, to reinstall the nvidia drivers, I also had to use the "nomodeset" kernel parameter when booting up before the nvidia driver took.
[23:23] <mytruehero> Hello - I'm not able to get a script (/etc/init.d/unicorn) to start on boot; I've run "sudo update-rc.d unicorn defaults", and the script works when I run it manually ("/etc/init.d/unicorn start"), but if I reboot, the service isn't running. How can I debug?
[23:23] <ki7rw> i'll have to keep that in mind
[23:24] <woozy> Imbezol: hey you there?
[23:25] <NegativeFlare> !xmir
[23:26] <m3zn4ha> Hello! I have some conflicts http://textuploader.com/60it
[23:29] <woozy> alright well i am in need of some help
[23:30] <hexafraction> Hi, how can I create a persistent file living in /dev that a specific user can overwrite with a symlink?
[23:30] <krux> REdOG: i'm guessing change your root directory in your apache2.conf file to point to that directory
[23:31] <REdOG> krux: it's a scriptalias
[23:32] <REdOG> and in ubuntu that's in /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default.conf
[23:33] <woozy> hey can someone help with me with my ubuntu installation booting and /home
[23:34] <REdOG> and something tells me it's dangerous to make a cgi-bin documentroot
[23:34] <REdOG> but maybe im just paranoid
[23:35] <krux> yeah not sure :).. look at this see if it helps..
[23:35] <krux> http://code.tutsplus.com/articles/apache-aliasing-and-redirection--net-28606
[23:36] <woozy> anyone available to help with encryption booting and /home
[23:37] <krux> http://www.thesitewizard.com/archive/addcgitoapache.shtml << actually this one talks about what your trying to do
[23:38] <vlt_> !anyone | woozy
[23:39] <woozy> ok vlt? sorry im new to irc chat
[23:40] <cookie> hi i am cookie
[23:40] <bekks> omnomnom.
[23:40] <cookie> pls dont eat me
[23:40] <cookie> :(
[23:41] <vlt> woozy: Read /topic and then ask a real question ;-)
[23:42] <woozy> So i installed ubuntu today over my previous linux os and did some things i dont want anymore. First off, I set up the drive to be encrypted so every boot i must enter my password than it will boot
[23:43] <woozy> I would like to get rid of this encryption process and such
[23:43] <EriC^^> woozy: do you have another hdd?
[23:44] <woozy> EriC^^: what do you mean?
[23:44] <vlt> woozy: I’d advise against NOT encrypting but anyway ... you can change it back.
[23:44] <EriC^^> another hard disk, ext usb or something
[23:44] <woozy> vlt: yeah id prefer to get rid of it.. just complicating things
[23:45] <LurkAshFlake> Fresh install last version of ubutun it's written on my .iso that it is amd64 my processor is intel, is there a problem?
[23:45] <vlt> woozy: You don't need a second hard drive if you have enough space for cloning your whole system left.
[23:45] <woozy> eric^^: yes i do
[23:45] <EriC^^> woozy: nevermind, just backup and fresh install again
[23:45] <EriC^^> if it's a fresh install who cares..
[23:45] <k1l_> LurkAshFlake: the patent for 64bit is from amd, but intel uses the same. so amd64 is for all 64bit cpus
[23:46] <woozy> vlt: so how do i get rid of it. it was an option when installing so i'd think there wuld be a way to get rid of it without reinstalling
[23:46] <EriC^^> woozy: you have to decrypt it and copy all the data somewhere else, recreate the partition and copy it back
[23:46] <EriC^^> woozy: not worth it..
[23:46] <vlt> woozy: Yes, but only if you copy your whole system to an unencrypted block device.
[23:46] <Bashing-om> LurkAshFlake: No, not a problem . Hold over as AMD did the 64 bit 1st . It is also for Intel .
[23:46] <SteinerU> Um, I've got a bit of an Ubuntu-related startup problem. Could I get some help here?
[23:47] <woozy> yeah that isnt worth it. well that leads to the second thing i wanted to fix since i have to reinstall
[23:47] <woozy> i read about it and want to put my /home on its own seperate partition so when i install different os or update it isnt affected
[23:48] <woozy> vlt:^^
[23:48] <squinty> !ask | SteinerU
[23:49] <SteinerU> Thank you, I just wanted to be sure.
[23:50] <EriC^^> woozy: choose Something else in the installer, and make a separate /home partition
[23:50] <vlt> woozy: This is what _I_ would do: Boot from CD or USB, open the crypted partition, shrink the file system, shrink the crypt volume, create two new partitions or LVM volumes, rsync / to one, /home to the other ...
[23:50] <woozy> how would i go about making the seperate /home partition ?
[23:51] <woozy> and if i have my previous/home on an ext hd, could i get it back on to there?
[23:52] <vlt> woozy: These are too many different tasks to handle at once for someone a bit inexperienced IMHO.
[23:52] <EriC^^> woozy: erase all partitions, make one for "/" ext4 about 20-30gb if you have a lot of space, make another ext4 mounted /home with the rest of the space
[23:53] <EriC^^> woozy: you can make a swap partition after creating "/" , if you want to hibernate, then use the rest for /home
[23:53] <EriC^^> ( it should be at least the size of your ram )
[23:53] <woozy> yeah the swap should be about the size of ram.
[23:53] <woozy> should the root be bigger if i run a vm and some bigger programs?
[23:54] <EriC^^> they'll be in your home dir
[23:54] <EriC^^> the bigger programs wont though
[23:54] <EriC^^> 20-30gb is ok i guess
[23:54] <woozy> well most of the bigger programs are windows based in the vm
[23:54] <EriC^^> oh ok
[23:55] <SteinerU> I was having some errors with windows, and needed to install it. Unfortunately, the Windows installer doesn't like to play nice with Ubuntu partitions. So I wiped everything completely backed up my important files on an external hard drive, and reinstalled Windows 7 and verified it. Fine. Then I installed Ubuntu studio, which I'm trying to use for video production stuff.  At first it was just detecting the windows partition as unallo
[23:55] <SteinerU> cated space, then I managed to tinker with it and get the partitions visible, shrink the windows 7 partition and install Ubuntu Studio. Despite all that going smoothly and this showing up in Gparted when I run it from a live CD (http://oi57.tinypic.com/dxk009.jpg) I get the "Reboot and select proper Boot Device" on startup
[23:56] <woozy> alright eric im thinking i got this.
[23:56] <woozy> so 3 partitions: /    /home and /swap
[23:57] <EriC^^> woozy: yeah
[23:57] <EriC^^> SteinerU: that's kind of odd
[23:58] <EriC^^> are you in the live usb right now?
[23:58] <woozy> would i be able to boot into the same usb i used to install the first time? and then would i move the /home files from ext-hd to /home partition on computer after new install?
[23:58] <EriC^^> did you create the fat32 partition?
[23:58] <SteinerU> Yes EriC^^
[23:59] <SteinerU> Also... my CD drive died last night, so I created a live CD via USB drive with UNetbootin
[23:59] <SteinerU> Which is what I'm using
[23:59] <not_a_tiger> I expanded my root partition using gparted-live. To do so I had to delete and remake my swap parition. How do I check to see if the swap is active?
[23:59] <EriC^^> woozy: yeah, backup the files then restore them after you install
[23:59] <EriC^^> not_a_tiger: free -m
[23:59] <EriC^^> it probably isn't though
[23:59] <EriC^^> did you modify fstab?