| === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash | ||
| elfy | have we done something with xdg-open or something - hexchat suddenly trying and failing to open urls in a new browser :( | 08:21 |
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| Unit193 | 2015-01-22 | 08:25 |
| Unit193 | What's the session log say? | 08:26 |
| elfy | which log? | 08:27 |
| Unit193 | .cache/upstart/startxfce4.log | 08:28 |
| elfy | nothing useful - just a bunch of mousepad stuff | 08:30 |
| Unit193 | OK. | 08:31 |
| elfy | 22nd sounds about right for it changing | 08:31 |
| elfy | bbl | 08:35 |
| brainwash | elfy: use exo-open :) | 10:44 |
| brainwash | there's bug 1388922 | 10:45 |
| ubottu | bug 1388922 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "xdg-open doesn't properly detect XFCE DE" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1388922 | 10:45 |
| brainwash | elfy: xdg-utils package has been updated. now the blanking timeout reset bug should be fixed. please test! | 10:54 |
| brainwash | Unit193: any idea how to make debian package a new xdg-utils build? | 11:03 |
| brainwash | it seems somewhat stupid to use the current ubuntu package and add all these upstream patches | 11:04 |
| brainwash | so, we need something fresh which could be synced from debian | 11:05 |
| bluesabre | elfy: did you get a chance to take abiword from -staging for a spin? If you approve, I'll sync the updated package tonight | 11:26 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: can you review https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11293 please? this bug seems to break one of the iso test cases | 11:46 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 11293 in MIME-type editor "MIME type change incorrectly shows as Default" [Minor,New] | 11:46 |
| bluesabre | that looks like a good patch | 11:48 |
| bluesabre | I'll merge that one in tonight, and add it to the package | 11:49 |
| brainwash | thanks :) | 11:49 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: good find, I'll also do that tonight | 11:50 |
| bluesabre | also, uploaded your screenshooter | 11:51 |
| bluesabre | glad I didn't have internet over the weekend to finish my blog post, seems we have plenty more new things landing in xfce-land | 11:53 |
| elfy | brainwash: that bug is old - this is new behaviour that'd turned up in the last few days - must have been caused by something | 12:44 |
| elfy | bluesabre: appears to be ok here | 12:46 |
| brainwash | elfy: old but still valid. for example, xdg-screensaver is not able to detect Xfce, so it falls back to "other DE" | 12:46 |
| elfy | right - your not understanding what I am saying | 12:46 |
| elfy | hexchat opened url's fine | 12:46 |
| elfy | something - that is NOT hexchat must have changed | 12:47 |
| brainwash | I understand what you are saying | 12:47 |
| elfy | then sending me looking at old info isn't helping | 12:47 |
| brainwash | all of the sudden it stopped working | 12:47 |
| brainwash | but the linked bug is old | 12:47 |
| bluesabre | well, if we just updated the package, and the breakage is new, its an issue with the new package... so what changed that affects xfce and related component detection | 12:51 |
| elfy | if suddenly something stops working and there's been no change in that package - the bug is something that has turned up recently - not last November | 12:51 |
| elfy | and re parole setting screen blank, that appears sorted :) | 12:51 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: did we change something with "Other DE"? Chances are there was something specific there that made things work a bit better. | 12:51 |
| bluesabre | if you can't find anything, I'll try to find time to diff utopic and vivid versions and see if anything jumps out at me | 12:52 |
| elfy | url's from other things like tbird open properly | 12:56 |
| elfy | just fyi | 12:56 |
| brainwash | disconnect | 12:57 |
| elfy | ? | 12:58 |
| elfy | though generally I feel like that - not sure it's going to help with this :) | 12:58 |
| elfy | this isn't something that's happened today - but daily for a few days - and I've been disconnected from here in between times | 12:59 |
| brainwash | I missed the previous message(s) | 12:59 |
| brainwash | before "just fyi" | 12:59 |
| elfy | not sure when I first noticed - possibly Friday, more likely Saturday | 13:00 |
| brainwash | the xdg-utils package was indeed updated, but no one touched the xdg-open part | 13:01 |
| brainwash | elfy: a simple test would be to execute xdg-open manually, like "xdg-open <url>" | 13:05 |
| elfy | well that works fine - didn't think it wouldn't | 13:06 |
| elfy | as I said url's work from tbird - it's seemingly hexchat which is causing me a problem | 13:06 |
| brainwash | bug 1408156 | 13:08 |
| ubottu | bug 1408156 in hexchat (Ubuntu) "links on chat contained on full quotes fail to open" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1408156 | 13:08 |
| elfy | brainwash: again - old | 13:08 |
| brainwash | hmm yeah | 13:09 |
| elfy | if there's a bug from a day or two ago - then I'd be happy - but this has JUST started here - it was fine :) | 13:09 |
| brainwash | sadly there is none | 13:09 |
| elfy | anyway - bbl - just my cuppa break :) | 13:09 |
| brainwash | bye | 13:09 |
| elfy | brainwash: well I'm not sad so much as this has obviously been broken for me really recently - so should be able to track it down | 13:10 |
| elfy | at least hopefully :D | 13:10 |
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| brainwash | elfy: just tested it myself, clicking some URL in the chat window or passing it to /url just opens an empty firefox window | 14:44 |
| brainwash | however, it works fine when running the unity session | 14:45 |
| brainwash | and xdg-open is not involved at all | 14:45 |
| elfy | brainwash: so what is involved then - because it's obviously not just a hexchat issue | 16:09 |
| elfy | thanks for looking too :) | 16:10 |
| brainwash | elfy: not just? | 16:15 |
| brainwash | I'd assume that hexchat is doing something weird | 16:17 |
| elfy | yea - how can it be just hexchat - it was working fine previously and hexchat hasn't had an update | 16:17 |
| brainwash | hexchat is our only hint | 16:18 |
| elfy | not quite :) | 16:18 |
| elfy | it was working fine last week is another one ;) | 16:19 |
| brainwash | ah, yeah | 16:19 |
| elfy | believe me I would have said something before :) | 16:19 |
| brainwash | did we change any environmental vars? | 16:19 |
| elfy | I'm constantly clicking links in this channel :D | 16:19 |
| brainwash | well.... apt does some logging | 16:20 |
| brainwash | you will have to check which packages have been updated | 16:20 |
| elfy | last changelog for hexchat in vivid - 16 Nov | 16:20 |
| brainwash | yes, I mean what has been updated last week | 16:21 |
| elfy | yea - was just going for easier options first | 16:21 |
| elfy | yep I realise that brainwash :) | 16:21 |
| brainwash | my test system runs several DEs, so it could take some time find any hints | 16:22 |
| brainwash | tons of packages are updated on a regular basis | 16:22 |
| elfy | I'll get some idea of what's been updated here last week first | 16:23 |
| brainwash | great :) | 16:23 |
| elfy | started this morning with what I did - just in case someone like Unit193 or bluesabre had an idea of a likely candidate | 16:23 |
| brainwash | elfy: exp-open <url> just opens a firefox window too | 16:48 |
| brainwash | ^ exo-open | 16:48 |
| elfy | just started xchat - opens a url properly | 16:48 |
| brainwash | I changed my browser and it works now in hexchat and with exo-open | 16:50 |
| brainwash | did you update firefox to version 36 (-proposed)? | 16:50 |
| elfy | yea | 16:50 |
| brainwash | same | 16:50 |
| elfy | I was just pondering that actually | 16:50 |
| brainwash | so something changed in firefox | 16:50 |
| elfy | I'll just purge that | 16:51 |
| elfy | yep | 16:52 |
| elfy | that's the issue \o/ | 16:52 |
| elfy | just came across it in the list I'm fiddling with :) | 16:53 |
| elfy | I just need to remember to not let it update that then in time | 16:58 |
| brainwash | what about filing a report? | 16:58 |
| elfy | because as soon as it's noticed that it's from proposed in vivid it'll get ignored | 16:59 |
| elfy | got enough ignored bug reports for now :) | 17:01 |
| brainwash | I'd assume that this bug will affect every Xfce user once they update firefox to version 36 | 17:02 |
| elfy | probably | 17:03 |
| brainwash | lets wait and see :D | 17:03 |
| elfy | :) | 17:03 |
| elfy | at least we know now it's not us :p | 17:03 |
| brainwash | not sure if I can recover my firefox bugzilla login details | 17:04 |
| brainwash | not sure, xdg-open works fine, but exo-open does not anymore | 17:05 |
| brainwash | maybe it has to be fixed in Xfce | 17:05 |
| brainwash | one of these rare cases which no one notices until it breaks | 17:06 |
| elfy | possible | 17:09 |
| elfy | not really sure what to report it against there tbh | 17:10 |
| brainwash | firefox + exo (+ hexchat) | 17:11 |
| brainwash | just add them all | 17:11 |
| elfy | to the comment? | 17:13 |
| brainwash | or do you mean reporting on mozilla's bug tracker? | 17:14 |
| elfy | not doing that :) | 17:14 |
| elfy | I'd have to make an account to do it | 17:14 |
| brainwash | I was thinking about adding all these packages to the lp report | 17:14 |
| elfy | what LP report? | 17:14 |
| brainwash | affects list | 17:14 |
| brainwash | the report which you gonna create :) | 17:15 |
| elfy | I already said I'm not going to create another LP report that'll get ignored ... | 17:15 |
| elfy | I'd report one to xfce exo | 17:15 |
| brainwash | yeah, sounds fine | 17:16 |
| brainwash | ideally someone should test with trusty + firefox 36 | 17:16 |
| brainwash | but no one here runs trusty anymore... or? | 17:17 |
| elfy | if as you say it works in unity then frankly most of the time that's all anyone looking at LP cares about | 17:17 |
| elfy | unless it's one of our things and someone here is dealing with it | 17:17 |
| brainwash | I do care about Xfce reports on lp =S | 17:17 |
| elfy | we do generally - but as soon as it's got something else like ff then *they* don't | 17:18 |
| brainwash | the mozilla guys are probably not monitoring lp anyway | 17:18 |
| elfy | you know exactly what I mean | 17:18 |
| brainwash | true | 17:19 |
| elfy | I had a bug with indicators - gets changed to pulseaudio - because apparently it wasn't running | 17:19 |
| elfy | yes it was | 17:19 |
| elfy | obviously working fine in ubuntu - ignore that then | 17:19 |
| elfy | when I can be bothered I'll create ubuntu stick and see if I see the same | 17:20 |
| elfy | then critically fail and ubuntu test - people look at those :p | 17:20 |
| brainwash | the sad truth | 17:21 |
| elfy | so - ff36 isn't released to anything yet | 17:21 |
| brainwash | no, unless you use vivid-proposed or some ppa | 17:22 |
| elfy | it was working here in ff35 which I'd grabbed from proposed previously | 17:22 |
| elfy | then I saw 36 there and grabbed that one :) | 17:22 |
| brainwash | kinda strange, why do they skip 35... | 17:23 |
| brainwash | for -release | 17:23 |
| elfy | it was in proposed for vivid previous to last week | 17:23 |
| flexiondotorg_ | Evening. | 21:49 |
| flexiondotorg_ | Anyone here who has a hand in lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings? | 21:49 |
| flexiondotorg_ | It works a treat in Ubuntu MATE and I'd like to include it. | 21:49 |
| flexiondotorg_ | I understand it is not uploaded to universe yet. | 21:49 |
| flexiondotorg_ | Do you need help with finding a sponsor for that or are there other reason why it has not yet been uploaded? | 21:50 |
| flexiondotorg_ | ali1234, bluesabre ^^^^ | 21:50 |
| slickymaster | knome, I think that the setence in line 242 of the guide-keeping-safe has to be rephrased | 22:06 |
| slickymaster | currently it reads: "Firewalls can be protect you against..." | 22:06 |
| slickymaster | that 'be' doesn't make sense and has to be removed | 22:06 |
| Unit193 | Or add 'used', either way works. | 22:14 |
| slickymaster | damn it, I always forget to update the pot files | 22:19 |
| slickymaster | always end up pushing it twice, because of that :P | 22:20 |
| Unit193 | elfy: xfce4-screenshooter in Ubuntu archives has imgur support now, in case you didn't know. | 22:44 |
| bluesabre | flexiondotorg_: currently lightdm-gtk-greeter and the related settings are getting some updates in preparation of 1.10/2.0 | 23:05 |
| bluesabre | we were wanting to get it to debian and then ubuntu, but with debian in freeze, it would go directly to ubuntu | 23:06 |
| bluesabre | we hope to have it in universe this cycle | 23:06 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: If it doesn't exist in Debian already, then there's not really a problem. | 23:10 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Also, only a few Xfce applications had that autostart bit, so not sure what the deal is. xfce4-settings, which builds fine, doesn't. | 23:11 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: do we have to ping someone who can accept xubu default settings into trusty-proposed? | 23:23 |
| brainwash | and what about utopic? is it first trusty, wait for verification, then utopic? | 23:24 |
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