[06:39] <llogiq> Hi folks.
[07:29]  * llogiq has solved his problem with the bcmwl-kernel-source package and the BCM43142 chipset.
[07:31] <llogiq> Thanks to teward, I was able to apply the patch that some arch linux folks have dug up.
[07:33] <llogiq> I have started a good number of large downloads last night to test the solution. All of them finished successfully. :-)
[09:00] <dingus> Hello all, I have installed lubuntu 14.01.1 on my old p3, 512 ram, 20 gb hd.
[09:00] <dingus> I like it.
[09:01] <dingus> ^14.04.1
[13:08] <MACscr> how do i remove lpanel or whatever its called? I simply want to use glx-dock instead
[13:08] <MACscr> dont need both open
[18:00] <__attribute__> Has anyone ever had an issue with installing Lubuntu 32 bit machine where after installing to the HDD you boot into a blinking cursor?
[18:00] <holstein> sure
[18:00] <__attribute__> I have googled this issue quite a bit and this has not helped.
[18:01] <holstein> on hardware that is either broken, or doenst support linux well, i have seen that
[18:01] <holstein> i have dealt with it many ways
[18:01] <wxl> __attribute__: usually it's because something failed in the download or copy to install media. one bit of difference could create such a difference.
[18:01] <holstein> could be thats simple, as well ^
[18:01] <holstein> could be the installation media, or the destination drive
[18:02] <holstein> what do i do? i start at the beginning.. i download what i want, in this case, lubuntu 14.04 32bit.. i confirm the md5 sum.. i then, just boot live.. if i have issues, i test the installation media. i'll do that with the integrity check, or by just trying it on another machine
[18:02] <__attribute__> Hmmm, the PC in question is from around 2007, with a Intel Pentimun, 80GB HDD and 512MB RAM. I thought that the hardware was too old for Linux...
[18:02] <holstein> i'll then move to testing the ram and the hard drive.. i'll do whatever it takes to get a live desktop, so i can see what works, and how well
[18:03] <wxl> __attribute__: nope. go check the hashes.
[18:03] <holstein> then, i'll install
[18:03] <holstein> if i cant install due to resources, like not enough ram, i'll use..
[18:03] <holstein> !mini
[18:03] <holstein> __attribute__: its not the "age" of the hardware.. it'll be the functional state of it, and/or support level
[18:03] <__attribute__> How old can hardware be for Linux to still work on it?
[18:03] <holstein> nothing about lubuntu is preventing you from using it anywhere
[18:04] <holstein> __attribute__: that depends, more on support level than age
[18:04] <wxl> __attribute__: well, if we want to get really pedantic, you could run LINUX (read: the kernel) on just about anything.
[18:04] <holstein> yup ^
[18:05] <wxl> __attribute__: if you're asking about what are the system requirements of a particular distrbution of linux, including the graphic server, window manager, etc., that's a different question and one that depends on which distro you're talking about. you can find system requirements at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[18:06] <__attribute__> Well, judging from y'all answers, when I run the memtest+ it doesn't pick up any errors with the RAM Module but in the hard disk test it says there is an error of sorts...
[18:07] <__attribute__> wxl, system requirements I know but my question pertained more to support for old hardware...
[18:08] <__attribute__> wxl, Haha, the Linux kernel I don't think I'm brave enough.
[18:08] <wxl> __attribute__: that doesn't necessarily relate to the first steps holstein and i suggested, but if you have an issue with the hard drive, that's kind of a no-go sort of situation. should you want help from us, you need to be more specific.
[18:08] <wxl> __attribute__: it doesn't matter if it's old. it matters if it's enough. linux basically runs on everything. it was built on old hardware.
[18:09] <__attribute__> Well, should I give you the entire description of what happens? I remember most of it... At least I think I do.
[18:09] <wxl> __attribute__: as i said, specifics matter.
[18:10] <__attribute__> Cool, I'll type it out now now.
[18:10] <wxl> !pastebin | __attribute__
[18:12] <__attribute__> ubottu, thanks! I'm still a newbie, appreciate the help!
[18:15] <__attribute__> ubottu, will do. :)
[18:22] <holstein> also, i'll just, personally, throw a few live CD's at hardware.. its like detective work.. isolating and seeing what works and how
[18:22] <holstein> *Then*, you have specific support issues, which, are not addressed
[18:25] <__attribute__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9902245/
[18:25] <__attribute__> Well take a look and let me know if my issue is applicable here.
[18:27] <holstein> __attribute__: it is, and it isnt
[18:28] <holstein> __attribute__: the first issue is, 13.10 is EOL
[18:28] <holstein> __attribute__: i suggest, use the 14.04 iso.. as mentioned above, and follow the proceedure outlined above
[18:30] <holstein> __attribute__: *all* hardware/hard drives fail.. so, dont assume that machine is functional..
[18:30] <__attribute__> holstein, thanks. I'll buy a few CD's tomorrow and play around til something works.
[18:30] <holstein> __attribute__: when you load the 14.04 live iso, do you get to the deskop? the live desktop?
[18:31] <__attribute__> I'll have to download the 14.04 iso, which will result in an all-day event with my Internet.
[18:32] <holstein> sure.. and i understand that frustration.. but, 13.10 is EOL
[18:32] <holstein> 13.10 *shouold* run, but, your internet can be the issue here
[18:32] <holstein> !md5
[18:32] <holstein> ^ you can confirm the downloaded file downloaded properly
[18:34] <__attribute__> I'll check out the links definitely. Thanks guys!
[18:36] <__attribute__> Thanks for your help guys, cheers.
[19:02] <guest2_> I got a message who tell me i cud not download and update flashplayer. i use 14.04.1
[19:04] <Mr_Comet> oh
[19:04] <Mr_Comet> guest2_-  no more flash support for linux.
[19:05] <Mr_Comet> i think Chrome browser will have support for flash.
[19:05] <Mr_Comet> hope anyone here can give you different answer.
[19:05] <guest2_> I usae firefox and a new flashplayer was in the updates.
[19:06] <Mr_Comet> bug fix yes.
[19:06] <Mr_Comet> new version. not sure.
[19:06] <Mr_Comet> dont think so.
[19:08] <guest2_> what do you meen ? it is a new flashplayer but it cud not download it.
[19:09] <Mr_Comet> no idea.
[19:09] <guest2_> if there was no support it will not be in the updates.
[19:14] <guest2_> Is it no more new flashplayer for linux anymore ?
[19:14] <Mr_Comet> thats what i was saying earlier.
[19:15] <Mr_Comet> no more new version.
[19:15] <Mr_Comet> just bug updates only.
[19:15] <guest2_> ok
[19:16] <guest2_> So the message is nothing to worry abut i think.
[19:17] <Mr_Comet> i guess so
[19:19] <guest2_> why are they stop make new versions ? in the future it can be problems to use flashmovies then.
[19:19] <ianorlin> that is adobe's fault not ours
[19:20] <Mr_Comet> ianorlin-  TRUE
[19:20] <Mr_Comet> They hate Linux cuz they cant get free unlimited access to user data :D
[19:20] <Mr_Comet> who knows :D
[19:20] <Mr_Comet> thats a wild guess :D
[19:21] <guest2_> we have html5 it can be the reasen.
[19:22] <Mr_Comet> not sure if its smooth
[19:26] <krytarik> guest2_: For that matter, update your package database, then try again.
[19:30] <guest2_> how to update the package database ?
[19:30] <Mr_Comet> Menu>System tools>Software Updater?
[19:31] <guest2_> You meen run the updates over again ? it tells me the computer is up to date.
[19:34] <Mr_Comet> then its up to date then
[19:34] <guest2_> yes.. good.
[20:19] <anjo-aladiah> With Lubuntu 14.10 	after an update i lose sound. how to reinstall the sound control volume in console ?
[20:30] <anjo-aladiah> With Lubuntu 14.10 after an update i lose sound. how to reinstall in console ?What it is the command to reinstall alsa mixer.
[20:30] <Mr_Comet> sorry no idea
[20:31] <Mr_Comet> maybe try menu>system tools>
[20:31] <Mr_Comet> synaptic package manager
[20:31] <Mr_Comet> those are my guesses
[20:32] <Mr_Comet> thats what i would do
[20:33] <anjo-aladiah> ok