[06:39] <llogiq> Hi folks.
[07:29]  * llogiq has solved his problem with the bcmwl-kernel-source package and the BCM43142 chipset.
[07:31] <llogiq> Thanks to teward, I was able to apply the patch that some arch linux folks have dug up.
[07:33] <llogiq> I have started a good number of large downloads last night to test the solution. All of them finished successfully. :-)
[09:00] <dingus> Hello all, I have installed lubuntu 14.01.1 on my old p3, 512 ram, 20 gb hd.
[09:00] <dingus> I like it.
[09:01] <dingus> ^14.04.1
[13:08] <MACscr> how do i remove lpanel or whatever its called? I simply want to use glx-dock instead
[13:08] <MACscr> dont need both open
[18:00] <__attribute__> Has anyone ever had an issue with installing Lubuntu 32 bit machine where after installing to the HDD you boot into a blinking cursor?
[18:00] <holstein> sure
[18:00] <__attribute__> I have googled this issue quite a bit and this has not helped.
[18:01] <holstein> on hardware that is either broken, or doenst support linux well, i have seen that
[18:01] <holstein> i have dealt with it many ways
[18:01] <wxl> __attribute__: usually it's because something failed in the download or copy to install media. one bit of difference could create such a difference.
[18:01] <holstein> could be thats simple, as well ^
[18:01] <holstein> could be the installation media, or the destination drive
[18:02] <holstein> what do i do? i start at the beginning.. i download what i want, in this case, lubuntu 14.04 32bit.. i confirm the md5 sum.. i then, just boot live.. if i have issues, i test the installation media. i'll do that with the integrity check, or by just trying it on another machine
[18:02] <__attribute__> Hmmm, the PC in question is from around 2007, with a Intel Pentimun, 80GB HDD and 512MB RAM. I thought that the hardware was too old for Linux...
[18:02] <holstein> i'll then move to testing the ram and the hard drive.. i'll do whatever it takes to get a live desktop, so i can see what works, and how well
[18:03] <wxl> __attribute__: nope. go check the hashes.
[18:03] <holstein> then, i'll install
[18:03] <holstein> if i cant install due to resources, like not enough ram, i'll use..
[18:03] <holstein> !mini
[18:03] <ubottu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:03] <holstein> __attribute__: its not the "age" of the hardware.. it'll be the functional state of it, and/or support level
[18:03] <__attribute__> How old can hardware be for Linux to still work on it?
[18:03] <holstein> nothing about lubuntu is preventing you from using it anywhere
[18:04] <holstein> __attribute__: that depends, more on support level than age
[18:04] <wxl> __attribute__: well, if we want to get really pedantic, you could run LINUX (read: the kernel) on just about anything.
[18:04] <holstein> yup ^
[18:05] <wxl> __attribute__: if you're asking about what are the system requirements of a particular distrbution of linux, including the graphic server, window manager, etc., that's a different question and one that depends on which distro you're talking about. you can find system requirements at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[18:06] <__attribute__> Well, judging from y'all answers, when I run the memtest+ it doesn't pick up any errors with the RAM Module but in the hard disk test it says there is an error of sorts...
[18:07] <__attribute__> wxl, system requirements I know but my question pertained more to support for old hardware...
[18:08] <__attribute__> wxl, Haha, the Linux kernel I don't think I'm brave enough.
[18:08] <wxl> __attribute__: that doesn't necessarily relate to the first steps holstein and i suggested, but if you have an issue with the hard drive, that's kind of a no-go sort of situation. should you want help from us, you need to be more specific.
[18:08] <wxl> __attribute__: it doesn't matter if it's old. it matters if it's enough. linux basically runs on everything. it was built on old hardware.
[18:09] <__attribute__> Well, should I give you the entire description of what happens? I remember most of it... At least I think I do.
[18:09] <wxl> __attribute__: as i said, specifics matter.
[18:10] <__attribute__> Cool, I'll type it out now now.
[18:10] <wxl> !pastebin | __attribute__
[18:10] <ubottu> __attribute__: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[18:12] <__attribute__> ubottu, thanks! I'm still a newbie, appreciate the help!
[18:12] <ubottu> __attribute__: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[18:15] <__attribute__> ubottu, will do. :)
[18:15] <ubottu> __attribute__: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[18:22] <holstein> also, i'll just, personally, throw a few live CD's at hardware.. its like detective work.. isolating and seeing what works and how
[18:22] <holstein> *Then*, you have specific support issues, which, are not addressed
[18:25] <__attribute__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9902245/
[18:25] <__attribute__> Well take a look and let me know if my issue is applicable here.
[18:27] <holstein> __attribute__: it is, and it isnt
[18:28] <holstein> __attribute__: the first issue is, 13.10 is EOL
[18:28] <holstein> __attribute__: i suggest, use the 14.04 iso.. as mentioned above, and follow the proceedure outlined above
[18:30] <holstein> __attribute__: *all* hardware/hard drives fail.. so, dont assume that machine is functional..
[18:30] <__attribute__> holstein, thanks. I'll buy a few CD's tomorrow and play around til something works.
[18:30] <holstein> __attribute__: when you load the 14.04 live iso, do you get to the deskop? the live desktop?
[18:31] <__attribute__> I'll have to download the 14.04 iso, which will result in an all-day event with my Internet.
[18:32] <holstein> sure.. and i understand that frustration.. but, 13.10 is EOL
[18:32] <holstein> 13.10 *shouold* run, but, your internet can be the issue here
[18:32] <holstein> !md5
[18:32] <ubottu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[18:32] <holstein> ^ you can confirm the downloaded file downloaded properly
[18:34] <__attribute__> I'll check out the links definitely. Thanks guys!
[18:36] <__attribute__> Thanks for your help guys, cheers.
[19:02] <guest2_> I got a message who tell me i cud not download and update flashplayer. i use 14.04.1
[19:04] <Mr_Comet> oh
[19:04] <Mr_Comet> guest2_-  no more flash support for linux.
[19:05] <Mr_Comet> i think Chrome browser will have support for flash.
[19:05] <Mr_Comet> hope anyone here can give you different answer.
[19:05] <guest2_> I usae firefox and a new flashplayer was in the updates.
[19:06] <Mr_Comet> bug fix yes.
[19:06] <Mr_Comet> new version. not sure.
[19:06] <Mr_Comet> dont think so.
[19:08] <guest2_> what do you meen ? it is a new flashplayer but it cud not download it.
[19:09] <Mr_Comet> no idea.
[19:09] <guest2_> if there was no support it will not be in the updates.
[19:14] <guest2_> Is it no more new flashplayer for linux anymore ?
[19:14] <Mr_Comet> thats what i was saying earlier.
[19:15] <Mr_Comet> no more new version.
[19:15] <Mr_Comet> just bug updates only.
[19:15] <guest2_> ok
[19:16] <guest2_> So the message is nothing to worry abut i think.
[19:17] <Mr_Comet> i guess so
[19:19] <guest2_> why are they stop make new versions ? in the future it can be problems to use flashmovies then.
[19:19] <ianorlin> that is adobe's fault not ours
[19:20] <Mr_Comet> ianorlin-  TRUE
[19:20] <Mr_Comet> They hate Linux cuz they cant get free unlimited access to user data :D
[19:20] <Mr_Comet> who knows :D
[19:20] <Mr_Comet> thats a wild guess :D
[19:21] <guest2_> we have html5 it can be the reasen.
[19:22] <Mr_Comet> not sure if its smooth
[19:26] <krytarik> guest2_: For that matter, update your package database, then try again.
[19:30] <guest2_> how to update the package database ?
[19:30] <Mr_Comet> Menu>System tools>Software Updater?
[19:31] <guest2_> You meen run the updates over again ? it tells me the computer is up to date.
[19:34] <Mr_Comet> then its up to date then
[19:34] <guest2_> yes.. good.
[20:19] <anjo-aladiah> With Lubuntu 14.10 	after an update i lose sound. how to reinstall the sound control volume in console ?
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[20:30] <anjo-aladiah> With Lubuntu 14.10 after an update i lose sound. how to reinstall in console ?What it is the command to reinstall alsa mixer.
[20:30] <Mr_Comet> sorry no idea
[20:31] <Mr_Comet> maybe try menu>system tools>
[20:31] <Mr_Comet> synaptic package manager
[20:31] <Mr_Comet> those are my guesses
[20:32] <Mr_Comet> thats what i would do
[20:33] <anjo-aladiah> ok