nagromlt | who here likes ubuntu | 02:31 |
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pitti | Good morning | 05:20 |
pitti | infinity: ah, ok; they don't have anything in particular in their status other than an obsolete error message, so I didn't dare and turn them to auto again | 05:21 |
pitti | infinity: oops, did you see that glibc fails to unpack now? | 05:23 |
pitti | infinity: I'm aware of debian bug 776257, could it be that? | 05:23 |
ubottu | Debian bug 776257 in patch "Fails to apply patch with dangling symlink" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/776257 | 05:23 |
pitti | would be weird if patch would have gotten broken in two different ways | 05:24 |
pitti | rbasak: did you see that mysql-5.5 is stuck in -proposed as it seems to make pinba-engine-mysql-5.5 uninstallable? | 05:31 |
infinity | pitti: I saw the test failure, but I can't reproduce it, so I have no idea what autopkgtest is doing differently. | 06:18 |
infinity | pitti: Downloading the source and running dpkg-source -x works fine. | 06:18 |
pitti | infinity: I can reproduce it easily here | 06:18 |
pitti | infinity: i. e. mere apt-get source glibc under vivid | 06:19 |
infinity | pitti: Oh. Maybe my patch isn't up to date. Didn't see the bug was patch, not dpkg. | 06:19 |
pitti | infinity: do you have patch 2.7.3-1? | 06:19 |
infinity | pitti: No, 2.7.1-7 ... Hence why I couldn't reproduce. | 06:19 |
infinity | pitti: Anyhow, I *could* fix the git-updates patch, but really, patch needs fixing. | 06:19 |
pitti | infinity: in the systemd package I worked around that by changing my patch to not create a dangling symlink, but it was trivial there | 06:20 |
pitti | infinity: yes, indeed | 06:20 |
infinity | pitti: Given that my git-updates patch is auto-generated, I don't really want to mangle it to work around bugs. | 06:20 |
pitti | anyway, I need to leave for the train station, bbl | 06:20 |
infinity | pitti: Thanks for the bug pointer, though, I was stumped. | 06:20 |
pitti | infinity: yeah, me too when I saw the systemd bug report | 07:07 |
pitti | infinity: was that what you pinged me about last night? | 07:08 |
dholbach | good morning | 07:25 |
infinity | pitti: It was, yeah. | 07:49 |
mlankhorst | morning | 07:55 |
mlankhorst | infinity: that might be on purpose | 07:55 |
mlankhorst | not 100% sure | 07:56 |
mlankhorst | in case other packages depend on it | 07:56 |
mlankhorst | infinity: /usr/share/bug/xserver-xorg-core/script is a symlink to ../xserver-xorg-core-lts-utopic/script | 07:57 |
mlankhorst | oh you mean the specific packages, hmm.. | 08:05 |
mlankhorst | I'll fix that for the -vivid backprot | 08:06 |
pitti | jibel: did you see anything weird about the gmsh test? i. e. always failed on i386, always passed on amd64, but britney considers it a regression? | 09:07 |
jibel | pitti, I didn't find why. And it is just for gmsh/mesa. | 09:11 |
jibel | pitti, you can force the result in the history file | 09:11 |
pitti | jibel: ok, doing that then; I did the same for a similar case recently, but it's happending seldomly enough | 09:16 |
pitti | jibel: ok, doing that then; I did the same for a similar case recently, but it's happending seldomly enough | 09:21 |
Laney | (echo in here) | 09:21 |
pitti | I got disconnected after lagging for 5 mins, I wasn't sure if my last message went through :) | 09:22 |
Laney | :P | 09:22 |
pitti | ... through .... through | 09:22 |
pitti | mlankhorst: I forced gmsh, mesa should propagate now | 09:22 |
highvoltage | wom 21 | 09:27 |
highvoltage | oh my | 09:27 |
mlankhorst | thanks | 09:31 |
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LocutusOfBorg1 | hi dear developers | 09:42 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | mdeslaur, how do you feel about getting openssl 1.0.2 into vivid? Just asking since you said that the merge was in hold until the next release | 09:43 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | of course I can do the merge and give it to you for review | 09:43 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | hi folks, why virtualbox/precise-proposed didn't migrate yet? | 09:55 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | in proposed since 2015-01-16 | 09:55 |
rbasak | pitti: no, I wasn't aware (it was a security upload). I'll look - thanks. | 10:05 |
rbasak | Looks like pinba-engine-mysql just needs a no change rebuild every time there's a new microrelease of MySQL. | 10:13 |
rbasak | I wonder if that means its uninstalling in stable releases as well. | 10:14 |
rbasak | Indeed it does. | 10:23 |
rbasak | mdeslaur: ^^ something to be aware of. Looks like a no change rebuild is required for every release for every mysql 5.5 microrelease if we don't want to break pinba-engine-mysql. | 10:23 |
rbasak | I'd argue that the strict versioning is wrong, mind. There should not be any ABI breaks in microreleases. | 10:24 |
rbasak | Nobody has complained, either. There are no Launchpad bugs for the package. | 10:24 |
rbasak | Ubuntu popcon reports: 1 install, no votes. | 10:26 |
rbasak | Looks like it's been blocked from jessie for almost a year for the same reason. | 10:28 |
Laney | Don't think Ubuntu popcon really works any more, so I wouldn't use that for data | 10:28 |
rbasak | No uploads in Debian in that time. | 10:28 |
rbasak | (unrelated) How do I find reverse dependencies for a virtual package? | 10:32 |
rbasak | apt-cache rdepends doesn't seem to know about these; nor "reverse-depends" | 10:32 |
rbasak | Do I need to resort to grep-dctrl? | 10:32 |
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pitti | Laney, cjwatson: hm, so I don't understand why systemd breaks libguestfs at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt | 10:51 |
pitti | systemd in -proposed drops the obsolete libsystemd-{login,journal,daemon,id128-}0 libs, but there are no reverse dependencies any more | 10:52 |
pitti | all of these binary packages install just fine in a vivid-proposed schroot | 10:52 |
pitti | and libguestfs0 now depends on libsystemd0 only | 10:52 |
pitti | (and that rebuild already propagated) | 10:52 |
pitti | any idea what I can do to find out what britney is complaining about? | 10:53 |
pitti | there's some NBS involved here, but I can't possibly remove the old libs from vivid before -6ubuntu1 gets promoted to vivid | 10:53 |
Unit193 | Laney: Re: popcon. At least right now, it's broken (not updating the page correctly) again, but since it's opt-in anyway... Normally rt needs poked to fix it, and it seems to break every few months. | 10:54 |
Unit193 | And indeed, congrats making it another year. | 10:54 |
pitti | didrocks: btw, I sorted out https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/systemd/+imports | 10:56 |
pitti | should appear in the next langpacks | 10:56 |
sitter | didrocks: heya, I hear we are getting bluez5 in vivid? any ETA on that? ;) | 10:59 |
pitti | sitter: I think that's more a question for cyphermox? | 10:59 |
ogra_ | and i guess it really depends how fast the phone can get ported over | 11:01 |
brainwash | can someone please move xfdesktop4 from trusty-proposed to -updates? bug 1365965 | 11:02 |
ubottu | bug 1365965 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu Trusty) "[MRE] Please update xfdesktop4 to 4.11.8 in Trusty" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1365965 | 11:02 |
Laney | pitti: hmm, let's see | 11:02 |
sitter | ogra_: that isn't even ported yet :O | 11:04 |
cjwatson | pitti: libguestfs0 still Depends: libsystemd-journal0 | 11:06 |
cjwatson | pitti: if you tried to rebuild to make shlibdeps go away, then I think perhaps it has a hardcoded dep in debian/control | 11:06 |
Laney | It's put in there by a substvar which comes from some data in the source tree | 11:09 |
cjwatson | ah yeah | 11:10 |
cjwatson | ./appliance/packagelist.in:81: libsystemd-journal0 | 11:10 |
ari-tczew | cyphermox: the merge for isdnutils from unstable is quite ready, but now came another problem. libcapi20-3 is now in separated package, which we need yet to sync. | 11:16 |
pitti | Laney, cjwatson: no, I already checked that debian/control doesn't have a hardcoded dep (it did, but I fixed those) | 11:43 |
pitti | I rebuilt it locally, and it only depends on libsystemd0; ubuntu4 now also does that | 11:43 |
pitti | ah, I'll try to update ./appliance/packagelist.in too, although I don't see how that affects the built debs | 11:44 |
cjwatson | It's via a twisty chain of stuff | 11:45 |
cjwatson | I didn't bother to fully investigate but it's fairly clear from ${appliance:Depends} | 11:45 |
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didrocks | sitter: depends on the phonefundation team for Touch, blocked on their kernel and integration | 12:02 |
didrocks | sitter: I noticed that rsalveti put that on their list for the next few weeks | 12:02 |
sitter | goody, thanks for the update :) | 12:03 |
didrocks | yw! | 12:03 |
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rbasak | infinity: around? | 12:07 |
rbasak | (mysql) | 12:07 |
mdeslaur | rbasak: hrm, interesting, but also a PITA for something potentially nobody uses :) | 12:20 |
rbasak | mdeslaur: yeah. I'm tempted to ignore it unless someone complains, given that it's not in jessie and appears unmaintained. | 12:28 |
mdeslaur | rbasak: +1 | 12:29 |
rbasak | mdeslaur: (except to no-change rebuild in vivid and future development releases which we need for proposed migration) | 12:29 |
mdeslaur | oh, vivid didn't migrate? sorry about that, I had not noticed | 12:29 |
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xnox | didrocks: pitti: i'm starting to work on "/dev/null to remove wants" set of patches for systemd | 12:34 |
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xnox | at the moment only did a trivial: systemctl --system --global enable to generate symlinks in /lib | 12:34 |
xnox | instead of /etc | 12:34 |
xnox | where shall i send this work in progress? | 12:34 |
xnox | and/or publish. | 12:34 |
didrocks | xnox: maybe we should get some kind of upstream agreement? | 12:35 |
xnox | didrocks: we do. | 12:35 |
didrocks | hum, I missed that message on the ML | 12:35 |
xnox | didrocks: in december archives lennart said that he will take patches that cleanly implement logic as specified to "unwant if symlink target is to /dev/null" I believe i've added links to the messages from lennart on the pad | 12:36 |
* xnox makes a git repository | 12:36 | |
xnox | on github | 12:36 |
didrocks | xnox: but not on the --global -> symlinks | 12:36 |
xnox | didrocks: yeah, but it's kind of convenient to have whilst hacking on these things =) | 12:37 |
xnox | didrocks: plus e.g. i imagine we would want packaging to use --system --global to genere symlinks at package built time or some/such. | 12:37 |
xnox | otherwise running --enable and iterating moving things from /etc to /lib is pain. | 12:37 |
didrocks | xnox: well, I would really wait for the sprint, as there is no clear agreement, even with debian, on the finale decision | 12:41 |
xnox | didrocks: i need this not for debian ;-) | 12:42 |
mitya57 | cjwatson: hi, can you please look at bug 1409433? | 12:43 |
ubottu | bug 1409433 in perlqt (Ubuntu) "Please demote perlqt to universe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1409433 | 12:43 |
didrocks | xnox: and not in ubuntu then ? | 12:43 |
xnox | didrocks: elsewhere | 12:43 |
cjwatson | mitya57: Just the demotions? | 12:46 |
mitya57 | cjwatson: yes, not only perlqt, but the list in bug description | 12:50 |
cjwatson | Yeah, I think you missed a couple from that even, but I'm checking component-mismatches | 12:50 |
cjwatson | qimageblitz and smokegen can go too | 12:51 |
mitya57 | Great | 12:52 |
ari-tczew | cyphermox: I uploaded your ppp from -proposed, libcapi20-3 from unstable and merged isdnutils to my PPA. | 12:58 |
ari-tczew | cyphermox: Every from those packages built fine. You can try to use it. (https://launchpad.net/~ari-tczew/+archive/ubuntu/testing/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=vivid) | 12:59 |
ari-tczew | cyphermox: libcapi20-3 is already in NEW. (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=) | 13:00 |
cjwatson | I'd be wary of NEWing libcapi20-3 until the new isdnutils source is also on its way into the archive | 13:03 |
ari-tczew | If new libcapi goes to -release, we have to rebuild all reverse depends. (http://paste.ubuntu.com/9897689/) | 13:03 |
cjwatson | Just to avoid problems with the overwritten binary | 13:03 |
cjwatson | The new libcapi won't go to the release pocket until all reverse-dependencies are rebuilt, I wouldn't expect? proposed-migration should ensure that | 13:04 |
ari-tczew | cjwatson: should do I to upload isdnutils right now? | 13:04 |
cjwatson | Unless the dependencies are wrong | 13:04 |
cjwatson | I don't know, I haven't reviewed it :) | 13:04 |
cjwatson | mitya57: . | 13:05 |
ari-tczew | cjwatson: do you need to review? I thought I have permissions ;-) | 13:05 |
cjwatson | ari-tczew: I don't, but you asked me a question to which I don't have the answer without reviewing it :) | 13:05 |
mitya57 | cjwatson: thanks a lot | 13:06 |
ari-tczew | cjwatson: so if you'd be nice to answer it would be good, because we're staying in the place :) | 13:07 |
ari-tczew | However, isdnutils needs ppp to get built. | 13:07 |
mitya57 | cjwatson: launchpad still thinks pyqt5 is in main: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyqt5/5.4+dfsg-1~ubuntu1/+publishinghistory | 13:07 |
ari-tczew | ppp is waiting in -proposed. :( | 13:07 |
cjwatson | ari-tczew: I'm not blocking it | 13:07 |
cjwatson | If you have the technical permission to upload it, you're taking responsibility for it, you think it's correct, and nobody's objecting, you should probably upload it :) | 13:08 |
cjwatson | I'm happy to accept the libcapi20-3 sync once there's an isdnutils dep-waiting on it | 13:08 |
ari-tczew | cjwatson: ok, I'll upload it | 13:09 |
cjwatson | mitya57: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyqt5/+publishinghistory clarifies, there was a separate upload in release vs. -proposed | 13:10 |
cjwatson | mitya57: sorted now | 13:10 |
mitya57 | cjwatson: oh yes, I should have said that, thanks anyway | 13:12 |
doko | urgh, everybody moves away from isdn ... | 13:12 |
ari-tczew | cjwatson: ok, isdnutils is dep-waiting already | 13:32 |
doko | pitti, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/195907605/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-ppc64el.openjdk-8_8u40~b22-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 13:48 |
doko | ugh, and is there a way to tell oemstrip to leave some files untouched? | 13:49 |
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cjwatson | ari-tczew: libcapi20-3 accepted | 14:11 |
ari-tczew | cjwatson: cool, thanks. I'll rebuilt all reverse-depends. | 14:12 |
ari-tczew | s/rebuillt/rebuild | 14:12 |
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pitti | doko: hm, is that a timeout or something? I don't see an error message | 14:35 |
pitti | ah yes, I see it at the end | 14:36 |
doko | pitti, yes, but a timeout during stripping? and how can I tell oemstrip not to touch libjvm.so? | 14:36 |
pitti | (it's pkgstriptranslations) | 14:38 |
pitti | doko: could it be that this is just a large build tree, and finding/taring the *.po files is slow on that builder? | 14:38 |
doko | there are no .po files | 14:39 |
doko | and ppc64el should be one of the fastest | 14:39 |
pitti | doko: as for your question, debian/rules can export NO_PKG_MANGLE=1 | 14:39 |
doko | pitti, that would be all or nothing | 14:40 |
cyphermox | ari-tczew: thanks for looking into isdnutils | 14:44 |
cyphermox | I had started but couldn't make sense of the new libcapi20-3, I didn't think to look in new | 14:44 |
cyphermox | what's the source package for it? | 14:44 |
ari-tczew | cyphermox: you're welcome, | 14:46 |
ari-tczew | cyphermox: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcapi20-3/1:3.27-1 | 14:46 |
cyphermox | ah | 14:46 |
ari-tczew | cyphermox: these two binaries were shipped in isdnutils, but they have been splitted out to separate source libcapi20-3 (link above) | 14:47 |
cyphermox | yeah, I saw | 14:48 |
ari-tczew | cyphermox: I saw you've merged nm-applet. have you been dreaming about that? | 14:48 |
cyphermox | what do you mean? | 14:48 |
cyphermox | it's not quite a merged | 14:48 |
ari-tczew | cyphermox: I guess you've spent a half of night :P | 14:48 |
cyphermox | I've taken it a few steps closer to being mergeable | 14:48 |
cyphermox | nah, actually it took far less time than I had expected | 14:49 |
cyphermox | I had more trouble with an accessibility patch than with the indicator patch | 14:49 |
ari-tczew | not bad | 14:49 |
ari-tczew | cyphermox: what are the next steps to do? | 14:50 |
ari-tczew | plugins from universe? | 14:50 |
cyphermox | network-manager-pptp, which I had already started | 14:50 |
cyphermox | that will unblock things | 14:50 |
cyphermox | after that yes, the other plugins | 14:51 |
cyphermox | also, whatever libcapi reverse-depends. | 14:51 |
pitti | doko: hm, if it doesn't have any desktop files, gnome help, or translation files, then it's basically just a bunch of "find" commands; I can't see from the log where it's stuck :/ we'd need a set -x output, or just retry the build and see whether it gets further/hangs at a different place, and maybe inspect dmesg to see if it has a stuck process? | 14:52 |
ari-tczew | cyphermox: I'm on it in the evening | 14:53 |
ari-tczew | till all libcapi20-3 builds are ready | 14:53 |
ari-tczew | arm64 is still waiting | 14:54 |
cyphermox | ari-tczew: ok, in that care let me know when you have time, because I'll start on them | 14:54 |
pitti | hallyn, stgraber: ah, systemd with the user lxc cgroup permission fix finally went in | 14:54 |
ari-tczew | cyphermox: ok. I hope in a few hours rebuilds are ready. | 14:55 |
* ari-tczew is going away. exams @school this weekend. | 14:55 | |
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stgraber | pitti: yay! | 14:59 |
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taihsiang | hi, I tried the latest vivid-server-amd64.iso today http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/20150127/ | 15:27 |
taihsiang | and found an issue: Jan 27 14:39:30 in-target: The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 15:27 |
taihsiang | Jan 27 14:39:30 in-target: perl : Depends: perl-base (= 5.20.1-4) but 5.20.1-5 is to be installed | 15:28 |
taihsiang | but I am not sure where is the best place to report this bug. | 15:28 |
taihsiang | May someone tell me where to report this issue? Thanks. | 15:28 |
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cjwatson | taihsiang: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage since that's an image build problem | 15:38 |
caribou_ | I would need some help from some AA to remove makedumpfile from the sync-blacklist so I can sync it from experimental | 15:41 |
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taihsiang | cjwatson, thanks | 15:42 |
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taihsiang | cjwatson, if I remember correct, it is very usual issue when playing around with a daily image. This kind of issues (package dependency, especially perl-*) happened to me several times. | 15:43 |
cjwatson | taihsiang: This one is because the image build system's mirror didn't get properly updated when that image was being built, possibly a locking issue that we've run into before. | 15:44 |
taihsiang | cjwatson, understood. thanks for the clear explanation. | 15:46 |
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cjwatson | caribou: done | 15:48 |
caribou | cjwatson: many thanks sir | 15:49 |
alexbligh1 | rbasak, any news on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/apache2/+bug/1366174 ? | 16:21 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1366174 in apache2 (Ubuntu Trusty) "apache2 SEGV with multiple SSL sites" [High,Triaged] | 16:21 |
pitti | jibel: bah, so who broke php :) | 16:21 |
rbasak | pitti: o/ | 16:21 |
pitti | rbasak: I got a gazillion test regressions as php seems uninstallable now | 16:22 |
rbasak | pitti: yeah, that's expected. I needed to rebuild a new php-json after uploading php5. That's done now. | 16:22 |
pitti | right, that's one of the first items in the pkgProblemResolver output | 16:22 |
pitti | rbasak: ah, so we only need to rebuild few packages, not all of them? | 16:23 |
* pitti restarts a random one to see | 16:23 | |
rbasak | pitti: need to rebuild everything that depended on the old ABI. About 50. I just uploaded the rebuilds a few minutes ago. | 16:23 |
rbasak | I'm not sure how that maps to the dep8 tests exactly. | 16:24 |
rbasak | So I wasn't going to ask for retests until those builds had finished. | 16:24 |
pitti | rbasak: ah nice; so every package which did get an upload will at least trigger its own test and thus auto-fix itself | 16:24 |
pitti | rbasak: and the rest we just retry tomorrow morning then | 16:24 |
pitti | rbasak: thanks for the heads-up | 16:24 |
rbasak | pitti: ack. Sorry I didn't warn in advance. I don't know how else I could have approached this, but I'll warn next time. | 16:25 |
* cjwatson re-enables adare and ross for now | 16:25 | |
pitti | rbasak: no problem at all -- the smiley was deliberate :) | 16:25 |
rbasak | :) | 16:26 |
cjwatson | Though not totally sure they're going to manage openjdk-6 in finite time. Oh well | 16:26 |
pitti | rbasak: we have -proposed exactly for this; I was just a bit surprised when I looked in my mailbox | 16:26 |
kirkland | pitti: howdy, systemd question for you.... | 16:31 |
kirkland | pitti: does /usr/sbin/service need any additional logic to start/stop/status systemd services? | 16:32 |
kirkland | pitti: it does a good job of being a layer of abstraction between sysvinit and upstart services | 16:32 |
kirkland | pitti: it crosses my mind that perhaps some new logic might be needed for systemd services... | 16:33 |
pitti | kirkland: what do you mean wrt. "new logic"? | 16:33 |
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pitti | kirkland: btw, if you want to write anything which is portable between init systems, don't use systemctl, but invoke-rc.d (for package maintainer scripts) or "service" (for programs) | 16:34 |
pitti | these get alogn with sysv, upstart, and systemd | 16:34 |
pitti | like "service foo start" | 16:35 |
kirkland | pitti: exactly :-) (fwiw, I wrote /usr/sbin/service many moons ago) | 16:35 |
pitti | kirkland: oh, that was you? didn't know that :) | 16:35 |
kirkland | pitti: indeed :-) | 16:35 |
pitti | # * August 2008 - Dustin Kirkland <kirkland@canonical.com> | 16:35 |
kirkland | pitti: the earliest code was a port from RH, but it grew far beyond that, with upstartedness | 16:36 |
kirkland | pitti: anyway, I was just wondering if it needed anything else to support upstart, and I was checking if you guys were already on top of it | 16:36 |
pitti | kirkland: as far as I'm aware, invoke-rc.d and service fully support all three now | 16:37 |
pitti | kirkland: utopic's still had some bugs, though, so I'm talking "vivid" here | 16:37 |
kirkland | pitti: fantastic, I should have known you were on top of it :-) | 16:37 |
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kirkland | pitti: ah, look at that (I just opened the code, which I should have done BEFORE opening my mouth) :-) | 16:38 |
pitti | kirkland: no worries at all :) | 16:38 |
ivoks | CVE-2015-0235 | 16:40 |
ubottu | ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2015-0235) | 16:40 |
ivoks | ubottu: thanks, that was fast :) | 16:40 |
ubottu | ivoks: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 16:40 |
rbasak | alexbligh1: sorry, I haven't forgotten. I'm asking around to see if anybody else can take it on. Otherwise it'll probably after I've got mysql 5.6 done, which is taking longer than I expected. | 16:52 |
alexbligh1 | rbasak, no problem. If there's anything I can do to speed things up do drop me a line. | 16:52 |
pfsmorigo | hi, I'm setting a preseed. What's the diff between d-i apt-setup and apt-mirror-setup? | 16:55 |
pfsmorigo | hmm.. maybe that's not the channel for this doubt, sorry | 16:56 |
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pitti | stgraber: oh, and if you could confirm that your machine with the bond interface is booting/working correctly now, I'd appreciated | 17:05 |
pitti | stgraber: I made some guesses about reproducing it (do you use ifenslave?) | 17:06 |
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stgraber | pitti: that machine uses ifenslave, yes and I'll check in about two weeks | 17:06 |
stgraber | being 7000km away from it, not feeling like taking the chance :) | 17:06 |
pitti | stgraber: ok; using ifenslave is the most important bit of it (I don't know if there's another way) | 17:06 |
pitti | stgraber: with ifenslave, the reason for the hang was quite clear | 17:07 |
stgraber | ah yeah, ifup bond0 waits for ifup of ethX (or the other way around depending on the order they're brought up) | 17:08 |
pitti | stgraber: so, should be all good now | 17:08 |
ogra_ | stgraber, tks ... 7000km ... just strech your arm a bit | 17:11 |
doko | pitti, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/195961040/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-ppc64el.openjdk-8_8u40~b22-1ubuntu1_UPLOADING.txt.gz so no processes hanging, now just building with PKG_NO_MANGLE | 17:21 |
semiosis | DktrKranz: ping? | 17:33 |
semiosis | DktrKranz: regarding https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343376 | 17:33 |
ubottu | KDE bug 343376 in VNC "KRDC crashes when connecting to Mac server" [Grave,Unconfirmed] | 17:33 |
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infinity | rbasak: I was not around, it was 5am. | 17:48 |
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jamespage | doko, apologies its taken me a while to find time but component-mismatches is now alot cleaner - less maven explosion | 17:54 |
rbasak | infinity: I never know what timezone you're in :) | 17:57 |
rbasak | infinity: I'm EOD now. Can we chat tomorrow? | 17:57 |
infinity | rbasak: I never know what timezone I'm in either, and sure. | 17:58 |
doko | jamespage, much appreciated | 18:00 |
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alexbligh1 | I have made a cockup on some software which has been deployed to some of our customers. In essence, when Ubuntu was at 12.04, I shipped package A with a version number of X (which was our internal s/w version and nothing to do with package A's version). Trusty now ships a more modern version of package A (let's say version Y), but unfortunately X>Y. This means apt-get upgrade doesn't upgrade the packages. Apart | 21:52 |
alexbligh1 | from apologising for being an idiot, what is the safest way to remedy the situation without the customer having to type specific incantations? Package A is brought in by a package we ship. | 21:52 |
semiosis | alexbligh1: i think you can make your package depend on a specific version (or range of versions, less than X) so that apt will pull in the trusty universe package | 21:56 |
alexbligh1 | semiosis, mmm. OK. So if I depend on 'foo<N' and foo 0.01 is in one repo, and foo 9.00 is in another, that will automatically take foo 0.01 rather than ignore foo 0.01 because it's outdated? | 21:58 |
semiosis | seems worth a try | 21:59 |
alexbligh1 | semiosis, this is all a bit of a mess as (to my shame) I actually cocked up three of four packages which depend on eachother | 22:00 |
* alexbligh1 buries head in hands | 22:00 | |
nijopa | Afternoon everyone | 22:14 |
nijopa | Is this the appropriate channel to ask a quick question about getting debug symbols for the GCC toolchain under Ubuntu 14.04 LTS? | 22:15 |
nijopa | If not, can you suggest an appropriate one? | 22:15 |
RAOF | nijopa: #ubuntu would also be appropriate. In general, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Installing_debug_symbols_manually | 22:24 |
RAOF | nijopa: (The gcc tools have a bunch of -dbgsym packages with the stripped symbols) | 22:25 |
nijopa | RAOF - thanks | 22:40 |
nijopa | I've found the debug packages, and I know about how to do the install | 22:41 |
nijopa | I'm actually having trouble installing them (getting dependency errors) and also, the contents don't appear to be what I'd expect. | 22:42 |
nijopa | For example, what appears to be the top level debug symbol package only contains a handful of files | 22:42 |
nijopa | when I'd expect it to contain more, or install a bunch of dependencies. | 22:43 |
nijopa | It's not a big deal - I can build the toolchain from scratch easily enough | 22:43 |
RAOF | nijopa: Yeah, you'd need to install all the individual debug packages; we don't do a “install all the symbols for the whole stack” metapackage. | 22:47 |
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