=== apw is now known as jsalisbury === jsalisbury is now known as apw === tomaw- is now known as tomaw [20:23] if there's someone here with access to the -irc mailing list - there's a mail from me to it that needs moderating please :) === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === JoseeAntonioR is now known as jose [20:38] elfy: I waved my magic wand at it [20:39] Pici: thanks :) [20:39] I assume you read it as well :D [20:40] I did indeed. [20:41] :) [20:42] Thanks for the help :) [20:43] welcome - I've done changes to the LP group, I've assumed that IRCC would want to do a community wide announcement to Fridge or something [20:47] Will do. Doing some maintenance on the IRC side of things first though... also I suppose I'll need to update the mailing list as well. [20:47] have fun with that then :) [20:48] holy crap i won outright how in hell lol [20:49] wat? === apw_ is now known as apw [20:49] elky: :) [20:50] Fuchs: irc council [20:50] my deepest sympathies :( [20:50] err [20:50] congratulations! [20:52] haha [20:53] too much el*y nicks for me in here ;p [20:53] well - congratulations to all concerned - you all got votes [20:53] k1l_: ha ha - I'm just going to take that as cue ... [20:53] to come back as hobgoblin next time :D [20:53] night all :) [20:53] hehe goodnight and thanks [20:54] :) [20:54] congrats elky, and Flannel [20:55] we're doomed. DOOMED. [20:55] we were already doomed. now it's _comically_ doomed [20:56] oh, okay. who's the third poor soul, [20:56] phunyguy [20:56] and why didn't I get a mail to vote as an irc member? *scratches head* [20:56] yeah, doomed it is. [20:56] you're not an irc member i guess. i forget how one gets there too [20:57] you probably need to be an ubuntu member first [20:57] I was pretty sure I was an IRC member, let me check [20:57] Trying to remember how to update the mailing list... for some reason this is always confusing to me. [20:58] iirc you need to reactivate yourself once a year or so. if you forget to do that you get dropped [20:58] Ubuntu IRC members 2012-05-31 Member — [20:58] according to lolpad [20:59] k1l_: yeah that happened to me. i didn't even get to vote for me [20:59] hrm [20:59] and I remember voting in the past as well [21:01] you are in the list. maybe some old email or spam filters? [21:01] it only gives you a week to renew. probably dropped while you were at bootcamp [21:01] elky: if it was dropped I wouldn't be listed as a member [21:02] mine dropped while i was sick last year [21:02] let me check the e-mail, because it definitely wasn't spam filters [21:02] e-mail is correct as well [21:10] who should I bug about this to get it fixed? [21:14] in this case, probably elfy [21:14] is your email public on launchpad? [21:15] the script can't get it if it's not [21:15] nope, but I can pm it to her if that helps [21:15] oh [21:15] that explains it, then. Hm. Not terribly happy with making my e-mail public, but I can use the membership one, can't I? (the @ubuntu.com thingie) [21:16] yeah, it should just point at your regular email [21:16] right, shall put that on and make that one public. Thanks :) [21:19] sounds like something that should be addressed to me though, I'm pretty sure not everybody feels good about putting an e-mail address up in public [21:21] the "get the voters emails" script is not a function of launchpad. it uses the public api. launchpad would otherwise have to provide a method to certain people to access private information, which would be exactly as hilarious as it sounds [21:22] or just have a method to send e-mails to people of a certain group [21:22] except you need to feed the emails to condorcet which canonical doesn't run [21:23] it's a cobbled situation and i have no idea why it's preferred [21:23] so lolpad would need an own, decent voting solution? [21:23] yes [21:23] would probably cover a couple of use cases. Hm. [21:23] which it doesn't because there's no financial gain for putting the resources on it [21:24] as with most defects and feature requests in launchpad [21:24] *sigh* ah well. [21:24] and try as i may to contribute to launchpad, i never got a functional dev environment set up, and nor has anyone i know [21:24] rest assured I would have voted for you. And your hubs, just for hilarity [21:24] aww [21:24] (who doesn't work for canonical) [21:24] well, thanks for the information :) [21:25] yw [21:25] in the future, sending a "hi, we just initiated voting, if you missed out, let us know" to the lp[ group would probably be nice though. [21:26] Yeah. As said, I do remember voting in the past (and I don't remember ever making my e-mail address public, I am slightly worried about spam), so at one point they probably had something like that [21:26] not sure how that works with subgroups, but this one in particular doesn' thave that many of those [21:32] wait, what? [21:32] what just happened? [21:32] I was highlighted [21:32] go back to sleep [21:33] oh, I see [21:33] * phunyguy sighs in relief. [21:37] congrats to elky and Flannel. Muahahahaahaha [23:07] Fuchs: I'm only skimming, but setting your @ubuntu.com email as your primary LP email account if you did that is a Very Bad Idea [23:08] since Canonical uses the primary LP email address as the target for your @ubuntu.com email, so... yeah [23:08] rww: no, I just recently did that, as in: today, after I was being told that the e-mail has to be public [23:08] rww: any better suggestions that don't involve giving an actual e-mail address of me to the public? [23:09] iirc "public" is "public to logged in LP users", for a start [23:09] for a second, people running CIVS elections in Ubuntu should provide an option for people to request a ballot. i think this is a Do Better Next Time thing [23:10] ("I sent out ballots to everyone whose email address I could find. If you didn't get one, email me" type message, as discussed above) [23:10] rww: I still dislike that, since creating a lolpad account (and using that to harvest) is trivial and can be mostly automatized [23:10] I know [23:10] rww: so I agree with your and your better half's analyse of the situation, and probably re-set my old e-mail, but not public [23:11] I note that were I going to spam Launchpad accounts I'd grab GPG keys too, and yours has your email address publicly available [23:11] the usual script for snarfing emails from LP used to do that, in fact. i gather this broke at some point. [23:12] rww: not one bound to that, mind [23:13] also thank you lolpad for sending out two e-mails when I add a new address, I'm sure that's very much needed (probably even a third after confirmation) [23:13] ENOPARSE on your first reply [23:14] yeah, I should probably head to bed before I start writing gibberish only [23:14] I do that, the gibberish part. Sleep well! [23:15] indeed, bed it is. Nighty night all :)