[07:33] <dholbach> good morning
[09:25] <govinda_> Hello
[09:26] <govinda_> halo
[09:27] <govinda_> halo
[09:28] <govinda_> is it possible to install ubuntu on micromax hd116
[09:28] <govinda_> is it possible to install ubuntu on micromax hd A116
[09:28] <govinda_> halo
[09:31] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Chocolate Cake Day! :-D
[09:33]  * ogra_ goes to whip some cream
[09:35] <sergiusens> ogra_: coffee and cream... yum... shops are still closed here though to get some cream :-P
[09:35] <ogra_> yeah, you need something to dip the chocolate cake in :)
[09:44] <JamesTait> Good plan, ogra_.  I'll nip out at lunch. ;)
[09:44] <ogra_> :)
[09:59] <nerochiaro> does anyone know where to submit a bug if something is wrong in the infographics in the greeter ?
[10:01] <popey> nerochiaro: i believe that's part of unity8 now.
[10:07] <nerochiaro> popey: thanks
[11:20] <mardy> can please someone confirm whether on latest devel images (I'm on r79) every app can access camera and mic without prompting the user?
[13:05] <mardy> sil2100: it seems to me that any app can access the camera or the mic, without prompting the user; is it correct, or is it a bug?
[13:08] <mardy> seb128: do you happen to know? ^
[13:13] <mardy> mmm... I guess it's bug 1230366
[13:18] <mardy> dbarth_: I didn't find a bug for the mic, but I guess it's the same
[13:18] <dbarth_> mardy: ok, i see
[13:25] <sil2100> mardy: that might need fixing, yeah...
[14:39] <mhall119> mzanetti: is com.canonical.Unity8 schema only available in vivid?
[14:40] <mzanetti> mhall119: yes
[14:40] <mhall119> I tried setting the windows mode, but it says No such schema
[14:40] <mhall119> ah, ok
[14:40]  * mhall119 is going to reflash to vivid, so many new goodies there
[14:40] <mzanetti> let me update the post... you're the second one asking this now
[14:40] <mhall119> thanks :)
[14:41] <mzanetti> mhall119: seems it also didn't propagate to the "vivid" channel, works with devel-proposed
[14:42] <mhall119> ah, not devel promoted
[14:43] <mzanetti> updated the blog
[14:47] <dobey> mardy: so are we going to do the thing with the p2p socket and apparmor?
[14:49] <mardy> dobey: I think so, but don't expect it overnight :-)
[14:52] <dobey> mardy: sure. not like we can land anything in rtm right now anyway. but getting a fix in vivid to test would be nice :)
[15:15] <kenvandine> mandel, any luck with the check_hash bug?
[15:18] <mandel> kenvandine, yes, I have to clean the branch and that will be done as soon as I land a fix for sd formatting
[15:18] <mandel> kenvandine, can you fwd the bug number?
[15:18] <kenvandine> mandel, oh, you found the problem?
[15:18] <kenvandine> mandel, bug 1330770
[15:20] <mandel> kenvandine, thx, will do the mr asap
[15:24] <kenvandine> bfiller, bug 1385331
[15:30] <jgdx> kenvandine, did you see bug 1415023? Seems like an sdk issue to me?
[15:33] <kenvandine> jgdx, that does sound like an sdk bug
[15:33] <jgdx> kenvandine, I'm going to confirm that
[15:34] <bzoltan> kenvandine:  how is that sdk bug?
[15:35] <kenvandine> bzoltan, i doubt we're doing anything to cause it, and our code hasn't changed
[15:42] <jgdx> bzoltan, seems to be reproducible only in Dialogs /cc kenvandine
[15:49] <xerf_> hello
[15:50] <xerf_> i'm sure you get this a lot but how is the current state of Ubuntu on touch devices (say the nexus 7 or 10)?
[15:51] <jgdx> !devices | xerf_
[15:52] <kenvandine> jgdx, bzoltan: i'll create a simple test case to verify
[15:56] <nhaines> xerf_: it's usable but rough.  All focus right now is on the phone, although the tablet interface is usable.
[15:57] <jgdx> kenvandine, I added some code to that bug that I used to verify it with
[15:58] <xerf_> nhaines: ah ok, i was curious...I'd love to have it on my phone.  I've got a kindle first gen which I see I can get an installer for so I might check it out
[15:58] <xerf_> and rock out with my 512mb ram
[15:59] <kenvandine> jgdx, great!
[15:59] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, jgdx might not be the toolkit, its whatever is handling focus, could be the shell?
[15:59] <nhaines> xerf_: On the phone it's pretty nice.  Needs more apps, but it's not out yet.  And with the scopes it's clear to see why someone would want to use it all the time.  :)
[16:00] <nhaines> A lot of the ports are really out of date.  If the apps background is purple, that's a sign that you're 2 years out of date.  :)
[16:01] <jgdx> pmcgowan, why would it be different in a Dialog, though
[16:01] <xerf_> nhaines: that's cool @ background.  I've got an HTC One right now which is supported but looks to be quite buggy right now :(
[16:01] <pmcgowan> jgdx, its a different window? dont know
[16:02] <pmcgowan> Saviq, ^^?
[16:02] <Saviq> pmcgowan, jgdx, only a different window if it's a trusted prompt, a simple UITK Dialog is the same window
[16:03] <nhaines> xerf_: hopefully when the retail units hit Europe in three weeks, that'll spur more porting excitement.
[16:03] <Saviq> so any focus handling happens within a single QML scene
[16:04] <pmcgowan> ok
[16:05] <xerf_> nhaines: that'd be nice.  It'd be nice to have a solid third option.
[16:44] <sturmflut-work> Wellark_, pete-woods: As promised to Wellark_ last week I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/connectivity-api/+bug/1415098 against connectivity-api . I'm working on two other proposals, exposing information about Bluetooth and Mobile networks, could you please have a look at the current bug and tell me if I should file the others the same way?
[16:52] <pete-woods> sturmflut-work: the request sounds pretty reasonable to me
[16:56] <sturmflut-work> pete-woods: It should be a good start. The other two proposals are basically the same, but for Bluetooth and Mobile networks. Bluetooth scanning should not be an issue. Mobile networks are a different thing, I don't know how much information the Baseband is willing to reveal, but if it is enough, it could open the door for some very interesting applications.
[19:42] <Masternoob> hello, can someone explain to my why there is no promotion für the bq phone anywhere although it will be released next month? Will they start making promotion after it launched? This is so strange...
[19:46] <dobey> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bq+ubuntu+phone
[19:47] <dobey> not sure what kind of other promotion you're looking for, but there are plenty of things in there
[19:50] <Masternoob> yeah there was the initial "we will release a phone", but since then it has gotten pretty silent, there isn't evenen anything on the bq homepage
[19:51] <dobey> the initial "there will be a phone" was a year ago
[19:51] <dobey> there has been a lot since then
[19:53] <Masternoob> yeah i know there was talk but its so strange that the phone will come out in ~4-5 weeks and the homepage ob the manufacturer doesn't mention it anywhere
[19:58] <dobey> why? new iphones or google phones don't show up on their respective sites until they actually come out, either.
[20:00] <Masternoob> yeah i guess your right...i think i am just inpatient i hobe the announce a release date soon :)
[20:29] <Letozaf_> hi, I have inserted too many APN's in my Nexus 4 settings trying to fix a wrong one, is there a way to cancel them, I cannot find a way to cancel APN's inserted in carrier settings
[20:46] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, using command line tools?
[20:46] <pmcgowan> thats how you added them?
[20:47] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, no I added them from System settings
[20:48] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, it should only configure one custom apn at a time
[20:48] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, yeah but by mistake I inserted a wrong one and could not delete it :(
[20:48] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, if needed I can  delete them using command line if you tell me how to
[20:49] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, you can re-edit the custom one or select one of the ones in the original list
[20:49] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, there is a way to delete the file and have it reinitialize
[20:49] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, that would be great, I meat to initialize the file
[20:49] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, let me remember where it is or find someone who knows
[20:50] <pmcgowan> awe_, you about?
[20:50] <awe_> yea, whatsup?
[20:50] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, thanks a lot
[20:52] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, /usr/share/scripts/ofono/remove-contexts
[20:52] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, thanks
[20:52] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, see the other contexts related scripts there
[20:52] <pmcgowan> np
[20:55] <awe_> pmcgowan, I can't offer much additional help besides what you've said.  If you the Inet and MMS APNs can't be fixed from system settings, and they were added that way, then we have a bug in system settings
[20:55] <Letozaf_> awe_, yes I was unable to delete a wrong APN inserted
[20:55] <awe_> as I was over-ruled over inclusion of a delete function, the only way to clean them up is manually by rm -rf /var/lib/ofono/<IMSI>/gprs and then restarting
[20:56] <awe_> Letozaf_, by editing the gprs file, or via system-settings?
[20:56] <Letozaf_> awafaa, via system settings
[20:56] <awe_> so it's working now?
[20:57] <Letozaf_> awe_, I am rebooting ...
[21:04] <Letozaf_> awe_, :( the APN's are still there
[21:04] <Letozaf_> awe_, the device is in developer mode
[21:05] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, you deleted the file and rebooted? it will reinitialize the original set
[21:05] <pmcgowan> but not the one you added
[21:05] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, oh, so it's not what I need
[21:05] <awe_> the best way to unwind at this point is
[21:06] <awe_> 1) stop ofono
[21:06] <awe_> 2) backup the existing gprs file from /var/lib/ofono/<IMSI>/
[21:06] <awe_> remove the gprs file, or edit it, and remove the offending apns
[21:06] <awe_> 3) reboot
[21:06] <Letozaf_> awe_, let me try
[21:06] <awe_> k
[21:14] <Letozaf_> awe_, it worked thanks a lot :-D
[21:15] <awe_> Letozaf_, great!
[21:16] <Letozaf_> awe_, do you think I need to report a bug on this ?
[21:16] <awe_> Letozaf_, if you can reproduce it and report the actual steps, that'd be super helpful
[21:16] <awe_> I would report it against ubuntu-system-settings
[21:17] <Letozaf_> awe_, ok thanks
[21:17] <awe_> Letozaf_, and ping me with the bug #/URL when you do so, and I'll follow-up on it
[21:17] <Letozaf_> awe_, ok I will
[21:17] <awe_> great, thanks!
[21:24] <Letozaf_> awe_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1415215
[21:24] <awe_> Letozaf_, so...by design, you're not supposed to be able to remove it.  Did you try to fix the attributes using system-settings and that failed?  If so, that's the real bug...
[21:25]  * awe_ not that I agree with the design
[21:25] <Letozaf_> awe_, you cannot edit the APN entry, you can only select it
[21:26] <Letozaf_> awe_, do you want me to change the bug description ?
[21:26] <awe_> could you please?  AFAIK, you're supposed to be able to edit it...
[21:26] <awe_> or at least add additional info to the description
[21:27] <Letozaf_> awe_, ok I will fix it
[21:27] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, you can edit the custom one but  not the default ones
[21:27] <pmcgowan> yeah we realize the UI is not perfect
[21:28] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, awe_ I am unable to edit both
[21:28] <pmcgowan> hmm let me see
[21:28] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, awe_ I can only select the APN items, but not edit or delete them
[21:29] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, what hapens when you selected "Custom Internet APN..."
[21:29] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, I am presented with three fields to fill in for a custom APN
[21:29] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, ok
[21:30] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, when cliking Activate, I go back to the APN page
[21:30] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, but from the APN page I cannot edit or remove the added APN
[21:30] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, so if I make a mistake I cannot fix it
[21:30] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, you can select the same button again
[21:30] <pmcgowan> ?
[21:31] <pmcgowan> oh my
[21:31] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, the "Custom internet APN" one ?
[21:31] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, yes, it brings you back and you can edit the fields again
[21:32] <pmcgowan> but if its a bad apn it should fail activation as well
[21:32] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, no, I am presented with a new empty one
[21:32] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, I see so thats the thing we need to reproduce if you have more info
[21:33] <pmcgowan> here I can edit it repeatedly
[21:33] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, ok, I tried, so if I enter rubbis it does not acitvate it
[21:34] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, so probaly I thought it was wrong and I actually activated a valid APN, but anyway I am unable to edit ti
[21:34] <Letozaf_> it
[21:34] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, or delete it
[21:34] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, is that ok ?
[21:35] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, right so delete is not supported for better or worse, but you should always be able to edit the custom settings
[21:35] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, every time I click on "Custom internet APN" I insert a new one even if it's the same as the previous one
[21:36] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, do you see new entries in the list?
[21:36] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, yes, right now I have like 10
[21:36] <pmcgowan> wow on the settigns page? can you add a screenshot to the bug
[21:36] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, I kept on trying, and I kept on inserting the same APN
[21:36] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, sure I will
[21:37] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, also please look in about and put your device info/build numbers in there
[21:39] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, OS build number 79
[21:40] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, thats a nexus 4 right, you mean 179?
[21:41] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, yes it's a nexus4 but I am running developer proposed
[21:41] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_,oh from vivd ok
[21:41] <pmcgowan> that screenshot is bizarre
[21:41] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, if you look at bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1415215 I put a screenshot
[21:41] <pmcgowan> yep can check it from here
[21:42] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, of the build and APN page
[21:42] <pmcgowan> Letozaf_, yep thats all we need now thanks
[21:42] <Letozaf_> pmcgowan, yw
[22:53] <ThatEpicTragedy> So, does anyone know what happened to ubuntu touch being available from OEM last year? was looking forward to being able to get one without having to find a phone that is supported and flash it