[05:03] <diddledan> hum te tum
[05:06] <zmoylan-pi> doobie doobie doo
[05:06] <MartijnVdS> morning
[05:11] <diddledan> http://www.fanpup.me/uploads/2/3/5/9/23592480/bsg_personality_test.png <-- I'm either caprica-six or cally henderson
[05:13] <diddledan> it's based on the MTBI test which you can do: https://www.mbticomplete.com/en/index.aspx
[05:13] <diddledan> ok they want money
[05:13] <diddledan> grr
[05:19] <diddledan> cinemas project jpg images? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Cinema_Package
[05:19] <diddledan> fair enough it's a newer standard than normal jpg in jpg2000, but it's a series of independant images rather than an mpeg-like stream
[05:20] <diddledan> I guess that's done so that individual frame corruption doesn't impact the video until the next keyframe
[05:20] <diddledan> in essence each frame is a keyframe
[05:21] <diddledan> we've probably all seen a corruption in an mpeg stream cause artifacts for several seconds of movie
[05:21] <diddledan> that's one of the issues of keyframe based compression though
[05:22] <diddledan> "let's throw out everything except changes between each frame - add-in some motion-dectecting for good measure"
[05:57] <mapp> looks like
[05:58] <mapp> im in gib perm now hm
[05:58] <mapp> i just hope summer is as good as they say
[06:13] <diddledan> is that good or bad, mapp ?
[06:13] <diddledan> or just "a thing"? :-p
[06:14] <mapp> well
[06:14] <mapp> who knows how it will be
[06:15] <mapp> but il be staying in gib for the forseeable future
[06:15] <mapp> min 2 years
[06:15] <mapp> better weather - cheaper cigs and spirits (so i can drink and smoke myself to death) but some downsides
[06:16] <mapp> cant go to any spurs games anymore really
[06:16] <mapp> too much effort
[06:40] <diddledan> the facebook is down!!!!!!!!
[06:40] <diddledan> armageddon is happening right now!
[06:41] <mapp> lol
[06:41] <mapp> oh no
[06:48] <knightwi1e> Good lord
[06:48] <knightwi1e> and tinder too ?
[06:48] <diddledan> I wonder if facebook are going to write an article about what caused this outage - it's world-wide
[06:48] <knightwi1e> and instagram ?
[06:48] <diddledan> knightwi1e, certainly instagram is too
[06:48] <knightwi1e> so we are going to have a bunch of desperate, vain, a-social people who are going to have to go outside and play ? ? ? ?
[06:48] <diddledan> I don't know about tinder
[06:48] <knightwi1e> what EVER will we do !
[06:48] <knightwi1e> yep
[06:49] <knightwi1e> Its worse
[06:49] <diddledan> knightwi1e, they might move to g+ for a while
[06:49] <knightwi1e> Slashdot.org is slow too
[06:49] <diddledan> maybe it's northkorea?
[06:50] <mapp> and twitter? its witter ok?
[06:50] <mapp> what would the teenies do
[06:50] <mapp> :D
[06:50] <diddledan> it was the twits that told me
[06:51] <diddledan> someone twatted about it, and then everyone else did
[06:51] <diddledan> #facebookdown is trending
[06:53] <knightwi1e> lol
[06:54] <diddledan> well done thunderbird - "downloading 1821 of 465 in Dixter"
[06:54]  * knightwi1e wonders if comparing a Thule Bumpercase to a Thong-for-your-laptop is inappropriate (in a review)
[06:54] <diddledan> knightwi1e, nah
[06:54] <diddledan> knightwi1e, everyone knows what a mankini is
[06:55] <mapp> i feel so out of touch with this generationn
[06:55] <mapp> and im only 30
[06:55] <diddledan> I'm binary this year (32)
[06:55] <mapp> i cant be bothered with twitter or facebook or instagram
[06:55] <knightwi1e> add 10 years + a social life centered around dealing with UK and US geeks while living in Belgium ..
[06:55] <knightwi1e> talk about cultural drift
[06:55] <mapp> i have a twitter..but i tweet friends from betfair forum and thats it
[06:56] <mapp> and i still dont get it how do people keep up with all the tweets and that
[06:58] <zmoylan-1i> you don't keep up, you just keep an eye as it streams past
[06:59] <mapp> hang on
[06:59] <mapp> but then
[06:59] <mapp> i might miss stuff from someone i follow|?
[06:59] <zmoylan-pi> i have a list of friends that i keep separate and that is a slow list that i keep a closer eye on
[07:00] <zmoylan-pi> try something like tweetdeck where you can split groups up into multiple lists.  tech, personal, scifi, gaming etc. and you can quickly scrollback as far as you want
[07:01] <mapp> but what if i didnt look for a week
[07:01] <mapp> i miss them all?
[07:01] <diddledan> yup
[07:01] <mapp> yea
[07:02] <mapp> so how do people on twitter reply to tweets so quicly and have 10000s of tweets?
[07:02] <mapp> they have to be sitting there waiting?
[07:02] <mapp> just seems rubbish to me
[07:02] <zmoylan-pi> unless they mention you in which case you can set up email notifications
[07:02] <mapp> yea
[07:03] <zmoylan-pi> people use twitter in different ways. i use it to follow friends closely, gaming a little, tech a little, and a few other subjects a little.
[07:03] <zmoylan-pi> separating the wheat from the chaff
[07:04] <zmoylan-pi> others use it as stream of consciousness as to what's happening right now
[07:05] <zmoylan-pi> main problem is that twitter seems intent on changing something that works into something that is more profitable to them and less useful to users
[07:07] <mapp> just seems too much for me
[07:07] <mapp> so much flowing around
[07:07] <mapp> id miss it all unlss they directly tweet me?
[07:07] <mapp> how do people see things then if people dont mention them in te tweet..simply by checking?
[07:08] <zmoylan-pi> then follow fewer people
[07:11] <mapp> yea
[07:11] <mapp> but some people follow 10000s of people and tweet 10000s of times?
[07:11] <mapp> seems too time intensiv
[07:11] <mapp> you use it much?
[07:13] <diddledan> rory cellan-jones says that facebook is down by what "looks like some kind of attack"
[07:13] <diddledan> (he's the bbc tech wonk)
[07:14] <diddledan> lizard squad are claiming responsibility: https://twitter.com/LizardMafia
[07:24] <knightwi1e> There , review of the Thule Vectro case going up now
[07:32] <mapp> what new series to start hmmm
[08:43] <diplo> mapps, ref tweeting, I move stuff into lists to be able to keep on top of it
[09:30] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Chocolate Cake Day! :-D
[09:31] <diddledan> JamesTait, good idea
[09:32] <JamesTait> diddledan, I certainly thought so.
[09:34] <msm__> JamesTait: Totally my favourite day!
[09:34] <JamesTait> msm__, I saw it and I thought of you! :-P
[09:35] <msm__> lol
[09:35] <msm__> of course you did :)
[09:35] <JamesTait> Two peas in a pod. ;)
[09:35] <diddledan> chocolate peas
[09:36] <msm__> lol
[09:36] <czajkows1i> aloha
[09:36] <JamesTait> I'm sure such a thing exists.
[09:36] <msm__> JamesTait: if it doesn't we should invent it
[09:36] <diddledan> ello czajkows1i
[09:36]  * JamesTait pokes czajkows1i 
[09:37] <diddledan> apparently the ONS says the UK economy grew 2.6% this year
[09:37] <JamesTait> msm__, there are those balls with biscuit in the middle and chocolate on the outside. I think they'd do.
[09:37] <diddledan> pretty impressive statsw
[09:38] <diddledan> JamesTait, malteasers?
[09:38] <msm__> JamesTait: They will do very nicely :)
[09:38] <JamesTait> diddledan, no! Maltesers don't have biscuit in the middle! :-P
[09:38] <diddledan> really?
[09:38] <diddledan> what do they have then?
[09:38] <diddledan> it's biscuitish
[09:39] <diddledan> i.e. crunchy
[09:39] <JamesTait> I don't know exactly what it is, but it's like Horlicks when you've left the lid off and it's got a bit damp and solidified. :-P
[09:40] <JamesTait> It's malty (hence the name).
[09:45] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:46] <davmor2> JamesTait: You disappoint me with your lack of happy holocaust day, but then I saw chocolate cake and forgot all about it ;)
[09:48] <JamesTait> I know, davmor2, I know. I was just trying to start the day on a happy note. ;)
[09:48] <davmor2> JamesTait: Jaffa Cakes wtf
[09:48]  * JamesTait likes Jaffa Cakes.
[09:54] <czajkowski> ahem that's beter
[09:54] <czajkowski> *better
[10:01] <popey> :( no replies to my UGJ mail
[10:09] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:09] <popey> yo
[10:11] <diddledan> popey, I'd like to pop along if I can get transport somehow (means checking train times or convincing my driver - dad - to ferry me)
[10:13] <diplo> Anyone here use *nix with Exchange at all ? Via thunderbird or Evolution or anything ? If so any recommendations
[10:14] <diplo> We sell rebranded nuc's for some of our customers and up till now they've all used our mail server, got a new customer running Exchange ( I've not got one to play with currently )
[10:16] <SuperMatt> Evolution in the path of reast resistance, especially if you have outlook web access
[10:16] <SuperMatt> however, I've just gone with outlook web access
[10:17] <diplo> SuperMatt, that's what I have suggested already :)
[10:17] <diplo> From what I can remember if you enable imap on exchange it disables their MAPI option
[10:17] <diplo> Been a few years since I've had to touch Exchange
[10:20] <SuperMatt> http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/109288736875/useful-code-snippet
[10:43] <davmor2> msm__: you are just poping up everywhere :)
[10:43] <msm__> davmor2: I sure am :)
[10:46] <Laney> keeping an eye on you
[10:47] <davmor2> Laney: she doesn't need to do that, msm__ knows I have a Sue, She's more than capable of keeping me in check, that's why I married her :)
[10:49] <msm__> davmor2: Indeed :)
[11:12] <popey> Laney: happy birthday!
[11:16] <davmor2> Laney: 'appy birthday
[11:17] <Laney> cheers mi ducks
[11:17] <bashrc_> happy birthday
[11:17]  * Laney gets old
[11:18] <Laney> less than one year with the '2' at the start of my age now
[11:19] <davmor2> Laney: I'll have a 2 in my birthday this year too, unfortunately mine starts with a 4
[11:19] <Laney> life begins at 42, everyone knows that!
[11:20] <diddledan> Laney, and ends at 42+364days
[11:21] <diddledan> you're only 42 once
[11:21] <Laney> it's a precious gift
[11:23] <foobarry> i turn 40 at end of feb
[11:23] <foobarry> need to think of a present. any ideas?
[11:24] <diddledan> foobarry, I'm not sure you're supposed to buy your own presents?
[11:24] <foobarry> i can choose for others
[11:24] <foobarry> or ask for munneh to buy a bigger one
[11:25] <diddledan> always go for a big one
[11:25] <foobarry> my tablet sucks, but i suspect a hudl2 has shelf life of 1yr
[11:25] <foobarry> is there a current nexus?
[11:25] <foobarry> 7 inch ish?
[11:25] <diddledan> nexus9
[11:25] <foobarry> ££
[11:25]  * Laney got http://www.plaidhatgames.com/games/dead-of-winter
[11:25] <diddledan> nexus6?
[11:26] <awilkins> The 6 is costlier than the 9!
[11:26] <diddledan> o_O
[11:26] <awilkins> Well, it is a phone
[11:26] <diddledan> that seems a bit back asswards
[11:26] <awilkins> The 9 is not
[11:27] <diddledan> it has a cellular modem tho
[11:27] <awilkins> The 9 only has LTE if you pay £460
[11:27] <awilkins> So yeah, the 6 is still more expensive
[11:28] <awilkins> 6 is £500 or £550 for the 64GB one
[11:28] <awilkins> Making the 9 a viable phone, I suppose, if you have a BT headset
[11:28] <davmor2> foobarry: the lego deathstar?
[11:29] <awilkins> The main problem being that you'd have to carry your hipster manbag everywhere
[11:29] <awilkins> The 6 is already stretching the credibility of one's pocket
[11:30] <awilkins> Not had my hands on one though
[11:39] <foobarry> is it a fully operational deathstar?
[12:06] <davmor2> foobarry: http://shop.lego.com/en-GB/Death-Star-10188?HQS=lego+deathstar
[12:09] <awilkins> WHERE'S THE CANTEEN
[12:09] <awilkins> Nowhere serving a nice Pasta Arrabiata!
[12:09] <awilkins> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5iEK-IEzw
[12:25] <daftykins> just watched the presentation on that thunderstrike attack on mac boot ROMs
[12:26] <daftykins> that was neat :D
[12:59] <daftykins> rather more trolltastic day in #ubuntu than usual it would seem
[13:16] <ujjain> Is there a good site, not google shopping, to compare prices for electornics?
[13:17] <ujjain> I want to buy a Dell U2515H, just new, but hard to find sellers, in Netherlands seems more available, but I live in the UK now and they dont ship
[13:20] <knightwi1e> 22
[13:21] <diddledan> 48
[13:22] <diddledan> I'm assuming it's the sequence 2.2.4.8.14.26...
[13:22] <knightwi1e> correct
[13:23] <knightwi1e> you are now admitted to a higher level of secret geekery
[13:23] <diddledan> :-p
[13:23] <daftykins> ;D
[13:28] <diddledan> time to forage
[13:28] <popey> ujjain: i used to use pricerunner, dunno if it still exists
[13:28] <popey> ujjain: also a browser extension called "Invisible hand" which does that for you
[13:28] <ujjain> ah smart
[13:34] <diddledan> oh my. babylon 5 is 21 today
[13:34] <popey> never seen a single episode
[13:34] <ujjain> me neither
[13:34] <ujjain> i watched Star Trek
[13:35] <ujjain> Babylon 5 is an American space opera television series - figarooooooo, figaroooooo
[13:36] <diddledan> I saw a few eps in it's first run but didn't work out the schedule until I'd missed loads - I have since watched it properly and fully in box-set binge mode via downloaded video
[13:36] <diddledan> it is pretty epic
[13:37] <ujjain> yeah, people talk good about it, but I dont know if I'd enjoy something so old
[13:38] <davmor2> diddledan: man it's old enough to drink and America wow
[13:38] <diddledan> davmor2, aye
[13:38] <diddledan> davmor2, and do n0rtybusiness too
[13:38] <ujjain> I read yesterday on the internet that you can have a credit card before 18 in the US.
[13:40] <daftykins> i think i saw a little bit of Babylon5 on TV, but yeah broadcast ruins most things
[13:40] <daftykins> especially when a sci-fi is on during the day
[13:42] <diddledan> the proliferation of cheap rerun channels in the uk has meant that they're airing multiple seasons in different slots so you think "ooh, I've been watching X, and it's just about to come on" only to realise you've either already seen it or it's two seasons ahead of where you were last
[13:43] <diddledan> anywho, brb
[13:43] <diddledan> food
[13:43] <shauno> or it's the same episode you watched 4 hours ago
[14:14] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw
[14:17] <diddledan> it's an old one but funny
[14:20] <daftykins> star wars related *close* :D
[14:20] <ali1234> the comments on that video
[14:21] <ali1234> i can't tell if they are trolling or they are really that dumb
[14:21] <daftykins> i still need to get that add-on that hides all youtube comments
[14:22] <daftykins> far better for sanity
[14:24] <shauno> I have 'alientube'.  it's .. well sanity may be false advertising
[14:24] <zmoylan-pi> they're a great reminder that you're surrounded by eejits
[14:25] <shauno> I don't need to be reminded, we have middle-management
[14:26] <daftykins> XD
[14:26] <daftykins> off to Boots for some vitamins, this shingles pain when my clothes rub the area is intolerable
[14:31] <diddledan> :-(
[15:39] <daftykins> kinda funny having to pull out the phone in Boots to convert units on packs :D
[16:00] <daftykins> diddledan: y'read about this one? really neat if you haven't :) "thunderstrike" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BrdX7VdOr0
[17:27] <daftykins> diddledan: time to turn the lights on! :)
[19:45] <DJones> Heh, I thought IRC was quiet, I blame the reported earthquake in Winchester
[19:47] <KrimZon> an earthquake? what time?
[19:55] <diddledan> daftykins, I'm just about to watch that thunderstrike vid - I heard about there being an issue but haven't read anything into it
[19:55] <daftykins> :D
[19:55] <daftykins> it is ace!
[19:55] <m0nkey_> diddledan, check other channel
[19:55] <diddledan> DJones, earthquake in winchester? I felt nothin in badingstoke
[19:59] <DJones> KrimZon: About 6:30 pm
[20:23] <diddledan> daftykins, wow, option rom from ISA 8088 days
[20:24] <daftykins> :D
[20:24] <daftykins> original IBM \o/
[20:28] <diddledan> oh golly, replacing the rsa key in the firmware. this really is epic
[20:30] <diddledan> lol @ picture of pre-thunderbolt devices
[20:31] <diddledan> eep - it can be viral too
[20:33] <daftykins> :)
[20:33] <daftykins> gonna nip off to the TV for some more Sopranos goodness, bbl o/
[20:33] <diddledan> hint: don't share dongles
[20:37] <shauno> meh, I'm patched :)
[20:38] <zmoylan-pi> patched for the backdoors we know about...
[20:39] <shauno> that's true of everything
[20:39] <diddledan> shauno, how'd you get patched?
[20:39] <shauno> the appstore just magically delivers stuff
[20:40] <diddledan> I've not received any firmware updates in ages
[20:40] <diddledan> ooh, 10.10.2 has been released
[20:44] <diddledan> shauno, http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT1222 no mention of the firmware in recent patches
[20:50] <diddledan> linux glibc: https://community.qualys.com/blogs/laws-of-vulnerabilities/2015/01/27/the-ghost-vulnerability
[20:54] <shauno> that kbase article doesn't look like it's been updated yet, it doesn't have anything more recent than dec22
[20:55] <shauno> http://lists.apple.com/archives/security-announce/2015/Jan/msg00003.html  ^F Thunderbolt
[20:56] <diddledan> is the security update 2015-001 for non-10.10 installs?
[20:56] <ali1234> is it generally possible to transfer windows recovery partitions to a new (larger) hard drive?
[21:03] <diddledan> is this the manifestation of the bond girl : https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/560161609843499009/photo/1
[21:11] <shauno> 2015-001 is 10.8 & 10.9
[21:40] <foobarry> glibc vulnerability in some OS
[21:40] <foobarry> In particular, we discovered that it was fixed on May 21, 2013 (between the releases of glibc-2.17 and glibc-2.18). Unfortunately, it was not recognized as a security threat; as a result, most stable and long-term-support distributions were left exposed (and still are): Debian 7 (wheezy), Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 & 7, CentOS 6 & 7, Ubuntu 12.04, for example.
[21:40] <foobarry> http://classic.slashdot.org/story/15/01/27/1925208
[21:49] <diddledan> foobarry, I mentioned that an hour ago
[21:49] <diddledan> foobarry, keep up :-p
[22:10] <diddledan> what are people's thoughts on plex vs mediabrowser?
[22:17] <bashrc> another security panic?
[22:18] <ali1234> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMykYSQaG_c
[22:20] <m0nkey_> plex for me
[22:24] <diddledan> aye, plex has always served me well
[22:48] <mapps> hey all
[22:57] <mapps> so tired
[22:58]  * jussi hands mapps the toothbrush and toothpaste... off to bed with you!