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bluesabrebrainwash: utopic might not be as necessary, 9-month support cycle and all that, but we can do that03:07
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Unit193bluesabre: Thanks for the upload!  And in case you didn't see, verve is released too.03:12
bluesabresaw that03:13
bluesabrehaven't acted on it :)03:14
Unit193Mhmm, care < 1  for me too. :P03:14
bluesabreI'll get to it ... soon03:16
bluesabre... ish03:16
astraljavaHey guys, was there something I needed to do in order to get automatic apport messages to reach launchpad? I have trouble with suspend/resume, and now when I booted this laptop, apport allowed me to send one, but it doesn't appear on LP.08:49
brainwashbluesabre: mmh yea, the utopic upload would only fix the one remaining keyboard action (maximize). this prevents any further corruption when a new user account is created10:26
brainwashan utopic users creates a new account and upgrades to vivid -> config still corrupted. an updated package for utopic prevents this scenario :)10:30
brainwashastraljava: hey there. I don't know how apport handles this, but the experts in #launchpad, #ubuntu-bugs or #ubuntu-devel may know the answer10:31
brainwashelfy: can we mark a testcase bug report as dupe? bug 141439511:06
ubottubug 1414395 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "testcase 1581 "Xfce4 MIME Settings" wrong line" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141439511:06
brainwashI just remember that I should not mess around with testcase bug reports11:06
Unit193apport (2.15.1-0ubuntu3) vivid; urgency=medium11:37
Unit193* etc/apport/crashdb.conf: Enable crash reports on Launchpad for vivid.11:37
slickymasterWorkyes brainwash, it's a duplicate11:58
slickymasterWorkdo you want me to mark as such, or will you do it?11:59
brainwashyou can do it :)12:06
astraljavaThanks guys.12:15
brainwashslickymasterWork: thanks12:16
bluesabreUnit193: I think you're more familiar with systemd vs upstart than I am... looking at this merge, would we use "init" or "upstart" in utopic/vivd? https://code.launchpad.net/~kalgasnik/lightdm-gtk-greeter/pre2.0-bugfixes/+merge/24765312:23
Unit193bluesabre: 'upstart', LP 1398619 has all the data.  But that's an upstart command, and -sysv symlinks 'init' to systemd.12:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1398619 in lightdm-gtk-greeter (Ubuntu) "No indicators displayed when systemd-sysv is installed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139861912:25
elfybrainwash: re testcase bugs - tbh better to mark as invalid :)12:32
elfyit's a testcase only when there's something actually wrong with that12:33
brainwashmakes sense12:34
elfymarked it such and commented - but thanks for doing what you did do :)12:35
brainwashslickymaster: with the recent talk about security, maybe it could be helpful to install seahorse by default14:57
brainwashnoticed this report which is filed against elementary os14:58
brainwashbug 141506614:59
ubottubug 1415066 in elementary OS "include seahorse" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141506614:59
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bluesabreI think we actually shipped seahorse at one point in the past22:46
knomeif we ship it, then we should make sure it's (easily) integrated/integratable22:47
brainwashit seems to be useful, but it's a gnome app22:48
brainwashand we don't like gnome apps, or? :)22:48
knomedepends if it brings a lot of dependencies22:48
knomeand with my comment i meant that it should be easy to start using it22:48
knomeif you need to do a set up even if it's shipped, then it's probably not worth it to ship it22:49
slickymasterI don't think that it brings so many dependencies knome 22:49
brainwashit makes using the (gnome) keyring more comfortable, but does the average user need that?22:49
knomeor does the average user use the gnome keyring?22:50
brainwashit could help to promote the security aspect22:50
slickymasterI'm under the impression that it's still used a lot22:50
slickymasterat least by unity users22:51
Unit193If it helps, I have it installed.22:51
slickymasterknome, re its dependencies -> libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.12.4), libavahi-client3 (>= 0.6.16), libavahi-common3 (>= 0.6.16), libavahi-glib1 (>= 0.6.16), libc6 (>= 2.7), libgck-1-0 (>= 3.3.90), libgcr-base-3-1 (>= 3.9.1), libgcr-ui-3-1 (>= 3.9.1), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.37.3), libgpgme11 (>= 1.2.0), libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.4.0), libldap-2.4-2 (>= 2.4.7), libsecret-1-0 (>= 0.16), libsoup2.4-1 (>= 2.33.92), dconf-gsettings22:53
bluesabreapt is using ipv6 addresses22:53
slickymasterRecommends: openssh-client22:53
brainwashwell, which new dependencies does it add?22:54
slickymasterUnit193 would be the one to give you a answer brainwash 22:54
bluesabreI think we already have most of those22:54
slickymasteror bluesabre :p22:55
bluesabreit shows chrome passwords22:55
knomemake a proposal of including it on the mailing list, covering these aspects as well as argumentation why it should be included :)22:55
knomethen add an item to the meeting agenda22:55
Unit193bluesabre: Wow, you get that now?22:56
knomethat way this discussion will actually go forward22:56
bluesabrehaven't used seahorse since before google chrome came out22:56
slickymaster+1 to that knome 22:56
bluesabreits been a while ;)22:56
slickymasterI've never used it tbh22:56
Unit193bluesabre: Do you use gnome-keyring?22:57
bluesabreUnit193: I do at least for unlocking my gpg22:57
brainwashI don't know, all I did is noticing the elementary os bug report about including seahorse..22:58
Unit193s/at least // and same.22:58
bluesabreI think a lot of people do, without knowing, it just does its just in the background22:58
Unit193Not for my email though.23:00
bluesabreUnit193 does not like to live dangerously23:01
brainwashbluesabre: fix the remaining keybind issue in utopic yes or no?23:02
Unit193I would, I just haven't set it up.23:02
knomedid somebody confirm that unattended upgrades are enabled by default for xubuntu ?23:03
brainwashbluesabre: if no, then we should mark it as won't fix for utopic23:03
slickymasterI think elfy did knome 23:03
slickymasterat least I'm under that impression23:04
knomeiirc he confirmed that we shipped a file that should do that - but that the software and upgrades dialog didn't say we were doing automatic updates23:04
knomei'll zsync a vivid image and check myself23:05
knomeatually, let's zsync both images23:06
knomeheh, if you attach an xfce4-terminal tab, it isn't the same width as the parent23:06
brainwashisn't xubuntu behaving like normal ubuntu or any other buntu?23:06
brainwashregarding updates23:06
knomeat least ideally and theoretically23:07
knomeok ok, i'll zsync a ubuntu image as well23:07
Unit193Isn't Kubuntu different?23:08
knomeUnit193, no no, won't take that bait23:08
* Unit193 snickers.23:08

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