=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [03:07] brainwash: utopic might not be as necessary, 9-month support cycle and all that, but we can do that [03:08] * bluesabre syncs abiword [03:12] bluesabre: Thanks for the upload! And in case you didn't see, verve is released too. [03:13] saw that [03:14] haven't acted on it :) [03:14] Mhmm, care < 1 for me too. :P [03:16] I'll get to it ... soon [03:16] ... ish [03:16] :D [08:49] Hey guys, was there something I needed to do in order to get automatic apport messages to reach launchpad? I have trouble with suspend/resume, and now when I booted this laptop, apport allowed me to send one, but it doesn't appear on LP. [10:26] bluesabre: mmh yea, the utopic upload would only fix the one remaining keyboard action (maximize). this prevents any further corruption when a new user account is created [10:30] an utopic users creates a new account and upgrades to vivid -> config still corrupted. an updated package for utopic prevents this scenario :) [10:31] astraljava: hey there. I don't know how apport handles this, but the experts in #launchpad, #ubuntu-bugs or #ubuntu-devel may know the answer [11:06] elfy: can we mark a testcase bug report as dupe? bug 1414395 [11:06] bug 1414395 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "testcase 1581 "Xfce4 MIME Settings" wrong line" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1414395 [11:06] I just remember that I should not mess around with testcase bug reports [11:37] apport (2.15.1-0ubuntu3) vivid; urgency=medium [11:37] * etc/apport/crashdb.conf: Enable crash reports on Launchpad for vivid. [11:58] yes brainwash, it's a duplicate [11:59] do you want me to mark as such, or will you do it? [12:06] you can do it :) [12:13] done [12:15] Thanks guys. [12:16] slickymasterWork: thanks [12:23] Unit193: I think you're more familiar with systemd vs upstart than I am... looking at this merge, would we use "init" or "upstart" in utopic/vivd? https://code.launchpad.net/~kalgasnik/lightdm-gtk-greeter/pre2.0-bugfixes/+merge/247653 [12:25] bluesabre: 'upstart', LP 1398619 has all the data. But that's an upstart command, and -sysv symlinks 'init' to systemd. [12:25] Launchpad bug 1398619 in lightdm-gtk-greeter (Ubuntu) "No indicators displayed when systemd-sysv is installed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1398619 [12:25] thanks [12:25] Sure. [12:32] brainwash: re testcase bugs - tbh better to mark as invalid :) [12:33] it's a testcase only when there's something actually wrong with that [12:34] makes sense [12:35] marked it such and commented - but thanks for doing what you did do :) [14:57] slickymaster: with the recent talk about security, maybe it could be helpful to install seahorse by default [14:58] noticed this report which is filed against elementary os [14:59] bug 1415066 [14:59] bug 1415066 in elementary OS "include seahorse" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1415066 === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === paolo_ is now known as paolo [22:46] I think we actually shipped seahorse at one point in the past [22:47] if we ship it, then we should make sure it's (easily) integrated/integratable [22:48] it seems to be useful, but it's a gnome app [22:48] and we don't like gnome apps, or? :) [22:48] depends if it brings a lot of dependencies [22:48] and with my comment i meant that it should be easy to start using it [22:49] if you need to do a set up even if it's shipped, then it's probably not worth it to ship it [22:49] I don't think that it brings so many dependencies knome [22:49] it makes using the (gnome) keyring more comfortable, but does the average user need that? [22:50] or does the average user use the gnome keyring? [22:50] it could help to promote the security aspect [22:50] I'm under the impression that it's still used a lot [22:51] at least by unity users [22:51] If it helps, I have it installed. [22:53] hm [22:53] knome, re its dependencies -> libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.12.4), libavahi-client3 (>= 0.6.16), libavahi-common3 (>= 0.6.16), libavahi-glib1 (>= 0.6.16), libc6 (>= 2.7), libgck-1-0 (>= 3.3.90), libgcr-base-3-1 (>= 3.9.1), libgcr-ui-3-1 (>= 3.9.1), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.37.3), libgpgme11 (>= 1.2.0), libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.4.0), libldap-2.4-2 (>= 2.4.7), libsecret-1-0 (>= 0.16), libsoup2.4-1 (>= 2.33.92), dconf-gsettings [22:53] apt is using ipv6 addresses [22:53] :o [22:53] Recommends: openssh-client [22:54] well, which new dependencies does it add? [22:54] Unit193 would be the one to give you a answer brainwash [22:54] I think we already have most of those [22:55] or bluesabre :p [22:55] wowza [22:55] it shows chrome passwords [22:55] make a proposal of including it on the mailing list, covering these aspects as well as argumentation why it should be included :) [22:55] then add an item to the meeting agenda [22:56] bluesabre: Wow, you get that now? [22:56] that way this discussion will actually go forward [22:56] haven't used seahorse since before google chrome came out [22:56] +1 to that knome [22:56] its been a while ;) [22:56] I've never used it tbh [22:57] bluesabre: Do you use gnome-keyring? [22:57] Unit193: I do at least for unlocking my gpg [22:58] I don't know, all I did is noticing the elementary os bug report about including seahorse.. [22:58] s/at least // and same. [22:58] I think a lot of people do, without knowing, it just does its just in the background [22:58] job [23:00] Not for my email though. [23:01] Unit193 does not like to live dangerously [23:02] bluesabre: fix the remaining keybind issue in utopic yes or no? [23:02] I would, I just haven't set it up. [23:03] did somebody confirm that unattended upgrades are enabled by default for xubuntu ? [23:03] bluesabre: if no, then we should mark it as won't fix for utopic [23:03] I think elfy did knome [23:04] at least I'm under that impression [23:04] iirc he confirmed that we shipped a file that should do that - but that the software and upgrades dialog didn't say we were doing automatic updates [23:05] i'll zsync a vivid image and check myself [23:05] :) [23:06] atually, let's zsync both images [23:06] +c [23:06] heh, if you attach an xfce4-terminal tab, it isn't the same width as the parent [23:06] isn't xubuntu behaving like normal ubuntu or any other buntu? [23:06] regarding updates [23:07] at least ideally and theoretically [23:07] ok ok, i'll zsync a ubuntu image as well [23:08] sigh [23:08] Isn't Kubuntu different? [23:08] Unit193, no no, won't take that bait [23:08] * Unit193 snickers. [23:09] lol