| thomi | hi barry, have you got a moment? | 20:29 |
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| barry | thomi: hi! sure | 20:29 |
| thomi | I'm trying to package the current version of selenium from pypi into a debian package, and it's a real mess | 20:29 |
| thomi | debian/watch doesn't seem to work (but looks cvorrect to me), patches in d/patches don't apply to new version, and new version contains binary .so files, that I'm not sure what to do with | 20:30 |
| thomi | ummmmm | 20:30 |
| thomi | let's start with that last one :D | 20:30 |
| barry | yuck | 20:30 |
| thomi | I guess it's a 'Bad Idea' to put .so files in a source package? | 20:31 |
| barry | oh, very much so | 20:31 |
| barry | also policy violating :) | 20:31 |
| thomi | :( | 20:31 |
| barry | can they not be built from source? | 20:31 |
| barry | (or maybe they can, but the build process is hidden upstream?) | 20:32 |
| thomi | there's certainly no way to build them in the .tar.gz that you download from pypi | 20:33 |
| barry | that's not exactly free software then is it? | 20:33 |
| thomi | well, the problem is that the tarball on pypi doesn't match their actual source code | 20:34 |
| barry | ew | 20:35 |
| barry | thomi: you might have to build the orig.tar.gz from $vcs branch | 20:35 |
| thomi | hmm, ok, I'll take a look | 20:35 |
| thomi | there's some debian server that allows you to download a tarball of a tag from google code, right? | 20:36 |
| barry | not that i know of | 20:36 |
| thomi | oh :( | 20:36 |
| barry | there are various ways to write a d/rules get-orig-source to checkout a tag. it depends on what upstream is using for vcs | 20:37 |
| thomi | oh no: "Selenium uses a custom build system called crazyfun" | 20:37 |
| * thomi bangs head on desk | 20:37 | |
| thomi | oh! it gets better! | 20:37 |
| barry | i still don't get it. .so are platform dependent, so how can they possibly include them in their tar.gz? | 20:37 |
| thomi | "...we are in the process of replacing this with buck" | 20:38 |
| thomi | barry: they include a .so for every platform | 20:38 |
| thomi | and every arch | 20:38 |
| barry | *every* :) | 20:38 |
| thomi | well | 20:38 |
| thomi | x86 and amd64 | 20:38 |
| thomi | all the good ones :D | 20:39 |
| * barry packs up his sparc machine | 20:39 | |
| barry | and arm | 20:39 |
| thomi | arm? no one uses arm :P | 20:39 |
| barry | obscure platform | 20:40 |
| thomi | barry: so the upstream vcs includes bindings for all sorts of languages, including ones we don't support (C#) | 20:42 |
| thomi | what do I do to those files? Keep them in the source package, or strip them somehow? | 20:42 |
| barry | i'd probably keep them in the source package, but just ignore them for purposes of debian binary builds | 20:43 |
| thomi | ok | 20:43 |
| thomi | barry: what's the best way to aproach this? It sounds like you'd make an empty folder with just a debian/ directory in it... what tools would you use to build it from there? I've never managed to get that working very well | 20:51 |
| barry | thomi: are you going to try to get this into debian after the freeze? | 20:52 |
| thomi | barry: hmm.. probably not | 20:52 |
| thomi | Ii mean, I know I should | 20:53 |
| thomi | but I don't have the patience TBH | 20:53 |
| thomi | but *someone* should :D | 20:53 |
| barry | looks like python-selenium has a debian maintainer. best to contact them about that | 20:54 |
| barry | ah, it's even in sid/non-free, and way behind upstream | 20:54 |
| barry | and behind in ubuntu | 20:54 |
| thomi | barry: Sascha Girrulat ? | 20:54 |
| barry | yeah | 20:55 |
| thomi | why is it in nonfree? | 20:55 |
| barry | thomi: no idea, but if it's got those .so's in it back then, that would probably explain it | 20:55 |
| thomi | hmmm | 20:55 |
| barry | thomi: so i'd probably start with `bzr branch ubuntu:python-selenium` and work from that branch. maybe. could be a lot of trouble if you need tons of modifications. yeah, i guess this isn't going to be much fun | 20:57 |
| barry | thomi: if you start from scratch, create an empty debian/ and steal as much as you can from the ubuntu package | 20:57 |
| thomi | barry: that should be the same as what 'apt-get source python-selenium'; gets me, right? | 20:58 |
| barry | thomi: you might also reach out on ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-motu to see if anyone can give you a hand | 20:58 |
| barry | thomi: more or less. could be less if the udd importer is broken on that package ;) | 20:58 |
| barry | so yes, you could start with that | 20:58 |
| barry | (and you can always create a bzr branch from the .dsc) | 20:59 |
| barry | just to have some local version control to make your life easier, not for any upload requirements or what not | 20:59 |
| thomi | ok, if i'm using upstream vcs as the source then there's not much I can steal from the existing package | 21:01 |
| barry | it's a start at least | 21:13 |
| barry | maybe only d/rules will need to be rewritten | 21:13 |
| thomi | reading the git section of https://wiki.debian.org/onlyjob/get-orig-source scares me | 21:13 |
| barry | upstream is git? | 21:14 |
| thomi | yeah | 21:14 |
| thomi | https://code.google.com/p/selenium/source/list | 21:14 |
| barry | man, i know there are simpler examples. not sure i can put my finger on one though | 21:14 |
| thomi | oooh! google code exports tarballs for every tag | 21:15 |
| thomi | such as: https://selenium.googlecode.com/archive/selenium-2.44.0.tar.gz | 21:15 |
| barry | hey, that could be much easier | 21:15 |
| thomi | so I can use d/watch after all | 21:15 |
| barry | cool! | 21:15 |
| thomi | barry: neither of their (two) build systems are packaged. Do I need to package those first? | 21:22 |
| barry | sadly yes | 21:23 |
| * thomi dies a little on the inside | 21:23 | |
| thomi | ....they invoke their build systems by running a java .jar file | 21:25 |
| thomi | I feel like this source code is mocking me now | 21:25 |
| barry | it's certainly laughing at you from hell | 21:26 |
| balloons | veebers, adding json should be this simple :-) https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/autopilot/add-json-build/+merge/247912 | 22:50 |
| * veebers looks | 22:50 | |
| veebers | balloons: heh nice, that is simple :-) /me tests | 22:50 |
| veebers | balloons: looks good to me | 22:55 |
| balloons | veebers, awesome :-) | 23:11 |
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