[06:24] <Noskcaj> So telstra now say it will be fixed on the 9th, but my mum has a heap of bonus 3g data to try and make up for it
[07:10] <darkxst> Noskcaj, stupid telstra !
[07:10] <darkxst> they wouldnt even give us dsl here, claimed the exchange was full
[07:11] <darkxst> after 2 weeks of stuffing around with telstra, ordered a line through internode, and it was connected in 2 days (via Telstra Wholesale)!
[07:22] <mgedmin> mephux, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1376387 ?
[07:23] <mgedmin> actually no
[07:23] <mgedmin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1414661
[08:41] <mgedmin> oh how I wish gnome-boxes would let me pick a distro and then go and download the iso for me
[08:41] <mgedmin> "I want ubuntu 12.04 in a VM now" is a problem I tend to have, and so far haven't found a sufficiently easy solution
[09:14] <mgedmin> qemu :(
[09:14] <mgedmin> hit ctrl-alt-f -> fullscreen, okay, didn't want that
[09:15] <mgedmin> hit ctrl-alt-f again -> now my two monitors are in clone mode
[09:15] <mgedmin> fifteen mouse clicks in system preferences to get back to extended desktop :(
[09:15] <mgedmin> and I have no manual page for qemu for some reason; the manual page for kvm links to the man page for qemu
[09:15] <mgedmin> and doesn't mention what the key is for resetting qemu's window size to 1:1
[09:18] <mgedmin> ctrl-alt-u
[09:28] <darkxst> mgedmin, gnome-boxes is purely a GNOME thing
[09:28] <darkxst> (unless you are using it for remote access)
[09:28] <darkxst> ^to VM's
[09:30] <darkxst> I tend to use vmware for all my VM's, maybe propriety but damn it kills the FOSS competitors!
[09:31] <mgedmin> at one point the best web browser on Linux (in my then-opinion) was Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.5 running in a full-screen'ed VMWare VM
[09:31] <mgedmin> (that was before firefox even existed)
[09:44] <darkxst> mgedmin, or that was before you knew firefox existed?
[09:45] <darkxst> but vmware has come a long way since then
[09:45] <mgedmin> ancient times
[09:45] <mgedmin> I remember trying konqueror as a web browser
[09:45] <darkxst> most of their drivers are now open source and mainlined in the kernel
[09:45] <mgedmin> I had no complains for vmware back then (other than "not open source")
[09:45] <darkxst> its just the virtual hardware platform that is closed up
[09:46] <darkxst> vs virtualbox which is open source, but will never get their rubbish into the kernel
[09:48] <mgedmin> and kvm has the "nice" text effects, *sigh*
[09:56] <darkxst> mgedmin, I can boot any ISO in VMware and it will be fully functional apart from the fancy guest features
[09:56] <darkxst> like autoresize, drag and drop etc
[14:09] <needhelp> Hi everybody, after an update yesterday I can't get my ubuntu to work anymore. It keeps putting me in "low-graphics mode". I have tried a bunch of things to fix it but nothing is working. I reinstalled fglrx from repo and amd website, reinstalled gdm removed fglrx for xorg driver updated to 3.16.0-29 but nothing is working. I really need some help so I can get to work!
[14:51] <lindol> hi all