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grendal_primeok I'm  back00:05
grendal_prime I know you guys were worried?00:05
SpyrosHello guys , i have an issue with filenames. They are utf-8 encoded and after moving server my php script doesn't find them anymore. My locale command says utf8 everywhere, what should i check next ?00:18
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SpyrosHere's the problem http://postimg.org/image/ayfk4yx4r/00:23
keithzgsarnold: There are indeed mosh builds for Android, or at least, JuiceSSH (the terminal/ssh client I generally use on Android) has mosh support.00:30
sarnoldkeithzg: nice :D00:30
sarnoldspyros: you missed nothing while you were gone00:31
sarnoldspyros: did the tool you used to copy data from server to server do something stupid with those filenames?00:31
sarnoldspyros: it's hard to imagine what could have broken them in this day and age, I thought nearly everything did utf8 well.00:32
sarnoldspyros: I'd chcek the filenames using e.g. ls | od    or | xxd  -- and you might need to use some switches to ask ls to molest output as little as possible. (Heck, maybe even grab a stupider ls that doesn't do as much :)00:33
spyrossarnold: i just realized something strange... i copied the files with the 'wget' command and the bad files occured. Now i copied them with filezilla to my windows machine and reuploaded to the new server and the filenames are ok now. Can i use filezilla from my vps to copy them again ?00:44
spyrossarnold: does ncftp work ?00:46
sarnoldspyros: interesting, I'm surprised wget did such a poor job with the names. was it perhaps run from a system with crazy locale configuration?00:46
sarnoldspyros: ncftp ought to work, but I'd prefer sftp myself, FTP is so .. terrible :)00:46
spyrossarnold: i can't control the old system it was a stupid web hosting server. Should i try copying again with wget but using sftp ?00:48
sarnoldspyros: sftp is a different protocol entirely, it's built on openssh00:48
spyrossarnold: does it respect encoding/filenames ?00:49
sarnoldspyros: it should, yes00:49
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jak2000isnt recommendable install vsftpd right? how to copy a file from windows to my server? i have ip/user/password02:50
rbasakjak2000: use SFTP or similar. Eg. PuTTY's PSCP or PSFTP. I have no idea if they give you a friendly UI or not though.02:55
jak2000ok02:57
jak2000sftp flashfxp02:57
jak2000thanks02:58
jak2000testing02:58
cryptodanfilezilla03:02
jak2000done03:04
jak2000but have a problem03:04
jak2000cant enter to a folder03:05
jak2000i use a user named: jak, in /home/jak exist a floder named ftp03:05
jak2000cant acces it why?03:05
sarnoldare you logging in with jak's credentials? what error message do you get when you try to access the directory?03:05
sarnoldwhat owner / group / permissions are on the directory?03:05
jak2000Access Denied03:08
jak2000wait a moment03:08
jak2000http://pastie.org/986709203:10
jak2000i can access to directory ftp2 but cant access to directory ftp03:10
jak2000how to fix it?03:10
sarnoldjak2000: so, uh.. why is that directory setuid and setgid? is there a reason?03:11
sarnoldjak2000: ... well, assuming you have no idea why those are set the way they are, you probably want to run "chmod 0755 ftp"03:14
jak2000ok03:17
jak2000changing03:17
jak2000done.....03:19
jak2000i am on windows, wich program need install for have a command line command? similar to command ftp?03:20
sarnoldI think I heard putty has some command-line tools03:20
jak2000in the webpage03:20
jak2000ok, i try look, thanks03:20
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lordievaderGood morning.08:52
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LeGalloisHi, what is the difference between 12.04.4 and 12.04.5 please12:11
LeGalloisGot a site that wont run using fastcgi on the 12.04.4 server but will on the 12.04.5 server???12:13
LeGalloiswell it will run but throws up sporadic error 500 pages12:14
lordievaderLeGallois: Read the release notes.12:15
lordievaderLeGallois: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes12:16
LeGalloisty12:17
LeGalloishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/12.04.5  :) yet to be done by the looks12:20
pmatulismorning12:24
lordievaderHey pmatulis, how are you?12:25
rbasakLeGallois: the default kernel is different I think. Apart from that, a dist-upgrade from 12.04.4 will take you up to 12.04.5.12:26
rbasak(and the x.org stack but not relevant for server)12:27
pmatulislordievader: good thanks, how are you doing?12:33
lordievaderDoing good here, preparing for FOSDEM :D12:34
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bananamanjoe could someone help me with a simple problem? i want to set a static ip on my ubuntu server that´s running on vmware. but i get this: http://puu.sh/f8NMx/6d77cc186c.png my config looks like this: http://puu.sh/f8NK1/a635b91f47.png12:54
RoyKbananamanjoe: 255, not 22513:03
bananamanjoeoh you´re right, that was a stupid mistake. Thanks RoyK!13:03
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LeGalloisrbasak thanks14:57
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grendal_primethis is sort of a werid off topic question (maybe) but Im looking to upgrade some server memory on my kvm servers.  These are dell 1650's 1 is a generic ibm built version of this model. I cant find any info about 4 gig ddr2 modules.15:39
grendal_primetechnically it should work so long as i have matching pairs right?15:39
RoyKgrendal_prime: yep15:40
RoyKgrendal_prime: 1650 is rather old, right?15:41
* RoyK thinks we're throwing out such machines these days15:41
grendal_primeya, i mean i pick these up for a couple hundred bucks..but i can run 8 windows vms on them..and 16 or so linux.15:41
grendal_primeI use them for mini clouds.15:41
RoyKok15:42
RoyKopenstack?15:42
grendal_primeIf your throwing those out let me know ill pay shipping on them to dban them for ya and make sure there cleared properly.15:42
grendal_primeno..well maybe minicloud is not the proper term.15:43
grendal_primei build like appliances for small companys.15:43
RoyKgrendal_prime: if so, shipping where?15:43
* RoyK is in .no15:43
grendal_primethey do ..filer, vpn, and virtual hosting all in one box.15:43
grendal_primeim in california15:43
RoyKah. probably more expensive to ship it than to get something from ebay :P15:44
grendal_primewhere you at?15:44
RoyKthings are rather expensive up here, shipping included, and those machines are rather heavy15:44
RoyKnorway15:44
grendal_primeoh shit..ya that would be.15:44
RoyK:)15:44
RoyKnext out is a small stack of R300s15:44
grendal_primethe 1650s are a 1u 4 drive deal15:45
RoyKok15:45
grendal_primebut ya i get them off of tiger direct for 200 bucks, then a 3 year warranty for 40 bucks more.15:46
RoyKgrendal_prime: should work well15:47
RoyKgrendal_prime: but try openstack on them :)15:47
grendal_primethey only have 2X 4 core xenons in them15:47
RoyKxeon15:47
RoyKwell, openstack isn't heavy, it just makes things easier to handle15:48
RoyKkvm is the one doing the hard work15:48
grendal_primeya i have been looking into it for a bit. I run ubuntu on them now and then just use virtmanager from netbook or laptop to manage them.15:48
RoyKalso in openstack15:48
grendal_primeevery time ive started down the openstack road, i run into some sort of snag.  Usually in setup15:49
RoyK:P15:49
grendal_primeis there like an openstack "distro" now..like an install that utilizes apt repos?15:49
RoyKcomputer studies at hioa.no, where I work, have a 16 node openstack cluster, each node with 64 cores15:50
RoyKgrendal_prime: IIRC ubuntu 14.04 has openstack in the grub menu15:50
RoyKinstaller grub menu15:50
RoyKhttp://www.ubuntu.com/cloud15:51
grendal_primeInstalling Ubuntu OpenStack requires at least seven machines with two disks, two of which have two network interfaces (NICs). Install Ubuntu Server on one of the machines with two interfaces.15:58
grendal_primehmm15:58
grendal_primeya these guys are not going to go for..."you need 7 machines"15:59
RoyKI guess that's the easy way15:59
RoyKa machine can have more than one role15:59
grendal_primenot even the  power companys15:59
grendal_primeI dont know..seems like everytime i go down this road i run into something i cant do with openstack.16:00
grendal_primemay sound crazy. but like i need the host to run a vpn concentrator. Everything else i can run on a vm i guess, but, just seems like i loose some sort of eliment of control when i try it.  Any canned cloud service seems to be missing just..like one thing everytime.16:03
devster31hi, how can I install a desktop environment on a server without changing the default starting runlevel? I don't want it to start automatically, just when I call it16:20
rbasakDebian and Ubuntu don't use runlevels to distinguish between text and GUI modes.16:20
rbasakJust disable the correct service. lightdm probably.16:21
rbasakhttp://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#override-files is the method to disable a service with upstart.16:21
devster31ok, so I can also try installing manually all packages except lightdm?16:22
rbasakI think that's more trouble than it's worth.16:24
devster31fair enough, thanks16:24
rbasakYou start needing to develop a deep understanding of all the package involved, rather than just installing the metapackage.16:24
rbasakYou may need something that depends on it.16:24
RoyKdevster31: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should do if you want graphics16:25
devster31I'm trying to do something weirder, I want to use x2go on a remote server with ubuntu-mate, but the ubuntu-mate-desktop metapackage automatically installs lightdm and boots into the login screen instead of console, so I wanted a way to boot the server without the additional gui stuff but still being able to load it when I use x2go16:27
Walexdevster31: thanks for letting us know :-)16:29
Walexdevster31: the previous suggestions and terminology are not quite right.16:30
Walexdevster31: Debian derived systems don't really have "runlevels", just single and multiuser mode.16:30
Walexdevster31: by default in multiuser mode a "Display Manager" is started, and the display manager then starts an X server and an X client session.16:31
Walexdevster31: to prevent the activation of the display manager in Debian-like system set '/etc/X11/default-display-manager' to "none".16:32
Walexdevster31: if you want a display manager to manager display on other hosts, but without starting a local X session, you have to edit the display manager's configuration accordingly.16:33
devster31I'm experimenting on a local VM before setting up the server, when you say "if you want a display manager to manage... " does it include ssh x11 forwarding? do I need a display manager to use x2go?16:36
Walexdevster31: no, it does not include X11 forwarding.16:42
devster31ok, so I'm safe setting it to none, I'm never going to use it locally, just over ssh or x2go16:43
Walexdevster31: when you use SSH or X2Go forwarding the remote display is usually managed already by a display manager.16:44
WalexBut note that if you run the X2go *server* on the host you connect to, that needs a display manager.16:44
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devster31it doesn't seem to be in the dependency list, but then again it is in the dependencies of almost every desktop environment16:50
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bananamanjoeCould someone help me again? I succesfully set up DNS on my ubuntu server, and am able to ping it with my w7 client IF i manually give it the dns address in network properties. How can send the dns information so it finds it on auto?16:51
RoyKbananamanjoe: official domain?16:53
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bananamanjoeI don´t know what that is RoyK, its supposed to look like this http://puu.sh/f9hrR/4561171a32.png. but if i use auto find DNS it doesnt find it at all http://puu.sh/f9hrR/4561171a32.png17:05
bananamanjoeoops17:05
bananamanjoehttp://puu.sh/f9hwf/3a433d4eeb.png*17:05
patdk-wkfix your dhcp server settings17:06
bananamanjoewhat´s wrong with them?17:07
patdk-wkwhat you posted17:08
patdk-wkit's EMPTY17:08
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f00lhardyI'm setting up crushftp sftp server under ubu serv 14.04. For a linux ftp server, where is the standard place to put folders for ftp users?18:07
f00lhardy#crushftp18:08
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devster31Walex changing /etc/X11/default-display-manager to non seriously breaks everything19:30
devster31no login on boot via CLI or GUI19:31
devster31no x session19:31
QcRHi19:46
sergeyWhat should I install and configure to make my site PHP send emails?19:47
QcRsendmail19:47
QcReasiest software19:48
sarnoldpostfix or exim19:48
sergeyI just never did it before. Can you give URL to good tutorial from your point of view?19:49
sarnoldsergey: give these a shot: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/email-services.html19:50
jrwrensergey: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/email-services.html19:50
jrwrensarnold: ^5 !19:50
sarnoldjrwren: :) ^519:50
sergeythanks19:51
jrwrenwow. https://packagecloud.io/pricing21:06
RoyKhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/9924008/ <-- anyone that knows what 'depth' means about the NCQ? and the AA after it?21:07
pmatulisjrwren, sarnold: re squid & universe, actually squid3 is in main :$21:10
sarnoldpmatulis: sorry, how did I miss that?21:11
jrwrenpmatulis: same here. I missed it, and squid is just a virtual package for squid321:11
ppetrakiRoyK, depth = # outstanding commands, AA is some sort of flag surrounding FPDMA. Not really sure what the code means21:14
ppetrakiRoyK, libata-core.c line 212821:14
RoyKppetraki: thanks21:15
ppetrakiRoyK, ah, "FPDMA auto activate"21:15
* RoyK wonders21:17
RoyKhow does CFQ and NCQ compare or compete?21:18
sarnoldisnt one sas and the other sata?21:18
RoyKCFQ is the one in Linux written for rotating rust21:19
sarnolddurrrrrrr21:19
RoyKTCQ is the one for SAS/SCSI21:19
sarnolddont mind me :)21:19
RoyK:)21:19
* RoyK throws a snowball in sarnold's direction21:19
sarnoldow21:19
ppetrakiplay nice kids21:19
RoyKhehe21:19
RoyK*kids* :D21:20
* sarnold throws a snowball at ppetraki 21:20
* ppetraki is too old to duck soon enough21:20
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bananamanjoeCan anyone tell me what i´ve been doing wrong? I´ve been stuck trying to setup a DNS server all day http://puu.sh/faasf/be353e9204.png22:46
qman__bananamanjoe: check /var/log/syslog for errors from BIND and pastebin them23:03
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bananamanjoeqman__ I´m running it on vmware with host-only network and no gui. is there a quickway to get it to pastebin?23:07
bekksInstall pastebinit and run "pastebinit /var/log/syslog" then23:07
qman__bananamanjoe: well, try this then23:10
qman__sudo service bind9 restart; tail -f /var/log/syslog23:12
qman__you're interested in the first error that bind throws (might be under 'named' as well)23:12
bananamanjoeoh that´s really helpfull, at first glance it seems to be syntax errors, let me fiddle a bit and come back^^23:18
bananamanjoeYes! It´s working. Thanks for the help qman__. It was indeed some very stupid typo by me23:21

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