grendal_prime | ok I'm back | 00:05 |
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grendal_prime | I know you guys were worried? | 00:05 |
Spyros | Hello guys , i have an issue with filenames. They are utf-8 encoded and after moving server my php script doesn't find them anymore. My locale command says utf8 everywhere, what should i check next ? | 00:18 |
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Spyros | Here's the problem http://postimg.org/image/ayfk4yx4r/ | 00:23 |
keithzg | sarnold: There are indeed mosh builds for Android, or at least, JuiceSSH (the terminal/ssh client I generally use on Android) has mosh support. | 00:30 |
sarnold | keithzg: nice :D | 00:30 |
sarnold | spyros: you missed nothing while you were gone | 00:31 |
sarnold | spyros: did the tool you used to copy data from server to server do something stupid with those filenames? | 00:31 |
sarnold | spyros: it's hard to imagine what could have broken them in this day and age, I thought nearly everything did utf8 well. | 00:32 |
sarnold | spyros: I'd chcek the filenames using e.g. ls | od or | xxd -- and you might need to use some switches to ask ls to molest output as little as possible. (Heck, maybe even grab a stupider ls that doesn't do as much :) | 00:33 |
spyros | sarnold: i just realized something strange... i copied the files with the 'wget' command and the bad files occured. Now i copied them with filezilla to my windows machine and reuploaded to the new server and the filenames are ok now. Can i use filezilla from my vps to copy them again ? | 00:44 |
spyros | sarnold: does ncftp work ? | 00:46 |
sarnold | spyros: interesting, I'm surprised wget did such a poor job with the names. was it perhaps run from a system with crazy locale configuration? | 00:46 |
sarnold | spyros: ncftp ought to work, but I'd prefer sftp myself, FTP is so .. terrible :) | 00:46 |
spyros | sarnold: i can't control the old system it was a stupid web hosting server. Should i try copying again with wget but using sftp ? | 00:48 |
sarnold | spyros: sftp is a different protocol entirely, it's built on openssh | 00:48 |
spyros | sarnold: does it respect encoding/filenames ? | 00:49 |
sarnold | spyros: it should, yes | 00:49 |
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jak2000 | isnt recommendable install vsftpd right? how to copy a file from windows to my server? i have ip/user/password | 02:50 |
rbasak | jak2000: use SFTP or similar. Eg. PuTTY's PSCP or PSFTP. I have no idea if they give you a friendly UI or not though. | 02:55 |
jak2000 | ok | 02:57 |
jak2000 | sftp flashfxp | 02:57 |
jak2000 | thanks | 02:58 |
jak2000 | testing | 02:58 |
cryptodan | filezilla | 03:02 |
jak2000 | done | 03:04 |
jak2000 | but have a problem | 03:04 |
jak2000 | cant enter to a folder | 03:05 |
jak2000 | i use a user named: jak, in /home/jak exist a floder named ftp | 03:05 |
jak2000 | cant acces it why? | 03:05 |
sarnold | are you logging in with jak's credentials? what error message do you get when you try to access the directory? | 03:05 |
sarnold | what owner / group / permissions are on the directory? | 03:05 |
jak2000 | Access Denied | 03:08 |
jak2000 | wait a moment | 03:08 |
jak2000 | http://pastie.org/9867092 | 03:10 |
jak2000 | i can access to directory ftp2 but cant access to directory ftp | 03:10 |
jak2000 | how to fix it? | 03:10 |
sarnold | jak2000: so, uh.. why is that directory setuid and setgid? is there a reason? | 03:11 |
sarnold | jak2000: ... well, assuming you have no idea why those are set the way they are, you probably want to run "chmod 0755 ftp" | 03:14 |
jak2000 | ok | 03:17 |
jak2000 | changing | 03:17 |
jak2000 | done..... | 03:19 |
jak2000 | i am on windows, wich program need install for have a command line command? similar to command ftp? | 03:20 |
sarnold | I think I heard putty has some command-line tools | 03:20 |
jak2000 | in the webpage | 03:20 |
jak2000 | ok, i try look, thanks | 03:20 |
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lordievader | Good morning. | 08:52 |
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LeGallois | Hi, what is the difference between 12.04.4 and 12.04.5 please | 12:11 |
LeGallois | Got a site that wont run using fastcgi on the 12.04.4 server but will on the 12.04.5 server??? | 12:13 |
LeGallois | well it will run but throws up sporadic error 500 pages | 12:14 |
lordievader | LeGallois: Read the release notes. | 12:15 |
lordievader | LeGallois: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes | 12:16 |
LeGallois | ty | 12:17 |
LeGallois | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/12.04.5 :) yet to be done by the looks | 12:20 |
pmatulis | morning | 12:24 |
lordievader | Hey pmatulis, how are you? | 12:25 |
rbasak | LeGallois: the default kernel is different I think. Apart from that, a dist-upgrade from 12.04.4 will take you up to 12.04.5. | 12:26 |
rbasak | (and the x.org stack but not relevant for server) | 12:27 |
pmatulis | lordievader: good thanks, how are you doing? | 12:33 |
lordievader | Doing good here, preparing for FOSDEM :D | 12:34 |
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bananamanjoe | could someone help me with a simple problem? i want to set a static ip on my ubuntu server that´s running on vmware. but i get this: http://puu.sh/f8NMx/6d77cc186c.png my config looks like this: http://puu.sh/f8NK1/a635b91f47.png | 12:54 |
RoyK | bananamanjoe: 255, not 225 | 13:03 |
bananamanjoe | oh you´re right, that was a stupid mistake. Thanks RoyK! | 13:03 |
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LeGallois | rbasak thanks | 14:57 |
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grendal_prime | this is sort of a werid off topic question (maybe) but Im looking to upgrade some server memory on my kvm servers. These are dell 1650's 1 is a generic ibm built version of this model. I cant find any info about 4 gig ddr2 modules. | 15:39 |
grendal_prime | technically it should work so long as i have matching pairs right? | 15:39 |
RoyK | grendal_prime: yep | 15:40 |
RoyK | grendal_prime: 1650 is rather old, right? | 15:41 |
* RoyK thinks we're throwing out such machines these days | 15:41 | |
grendal_prime | ya, i mean i pick these up for a couple hundred bucks..but i can run 8 windows vms on them..and 16 or so linux. | 15:41 |
grendal_prime | I use them for mini clouds. | 15:41 |
RoyK | ok | 15:42 |
RoyK | openstack? | 15:42 |
grendal_prime | If your throwing those out let me know ill pay shipping on them to dban them for ya and make sure there cleared properly. | 15:42 |
grendal_prime | no..well maybe minicloud is not the proper term. | 15:43 |
grendal_prime | i build like appliances for small companys. | 15:43 |
RoyK | grendal_prime: if so, shipping where? | 15:43 |
* RoyK is in .no | 15:43 | |
grendal_prime | they do ..filer, vpn, and virtual hosting all in one box. | 15:43 |
grendal_prime | im in california | 15:43 |
RoyK | ah. probably more expensive to ship it than to get something from ebay :P | 15:44 |
grendal_prime | where you at? | 15:44 |
RoyK | things are rather expensive up here, shipping included, and those machines are rather heavy | 15:44 |
RoyK | norway | 15:44 |
grendal_prime | oh shit..ya that would be. | 15:44 |
RoyK | :) | 15:44 |
RoyK | next out is a small stack of R300s | 15:44 |
grendal_prime | the 1650s are a 1u 4 drive deal | 15:45 |
RoyK | ok | 15:45 |
grendal_prime | but ya i get them off of tiger direct for 200 bucks, then a 3 year warranty for 40 bucks more. | 15:46 |
RoyK | grendal_prime: should work well | 15:47 |
RoyK | grendal_prime: but try openstack on them :) | 15:47 |
grendal_prime | they only have 2X 4 core xenons in them | 15:47 |
RoyK | xeon | 15:47 |
RoyK | well, openstack isn't heavy, it just makes things easier to handle | 15:48 |
RoyK | kvm is the one doing the hard work | 15:48 |
grendal_prime | ya i have been looking into it for a bit. I run ubuntu on them now and then just use virtmanager from netbook or laptop to manage them. | 15:48 |
RoyK | also in openstack | 15:48 |
grendal_prime | every time ive started down the openstack road, i run into some sort of snag. Usually in setup | 15:49 |
RoyK | :P | 15:49 |
grendal_prime | is there like an openstack "distro" now..like an install that utilizes apt repos? | 15:49 |
RoyK | computer studies at hioa.no, where I work, have a 16 node openstack cluster, each node with 64 cores | 15:50 |
RoyK | grendal_prime: IIRC ubuntu 14.04 has openstack in the grub menu | 15:50 |
RoyK | installer grub menu | 15:50 |
RoyK | http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud | 15:51 |
grendal_prime | Installing Ubuntu OpenStack requires at least seven machines with two disks, two of which have two network interfaces (NICs). Install Ubuntu Server on one of the machines with two interfaces. | 15:58 |
grendal_prime | hmm | 15:58 |
grendal_prime | ya these guys are not going to go for..."you need 7 machines" | 15:59 |
RoyK | I guess that's the easy way | 15:59 |
RoyK | a machine can have more than one role | 15:59 |
grendal_prime | not even the power companys | 15:59 |
grendal_prime | I dont know..seems like everytime i go down this road i run into something i cant do with openstack. | 16:00 |
grendal_prime | may sound crazy. but like i need the host to run a vpn concentrator. Everything else i can run on a vm i guess, but, just seems like i loose some sort of eliment of control when i try it. Any canned cloud service seems to be missing just..like one thing everytime. | 16:03 |
devster31 | hi, how can I install a desktop environment on a server without changing the default starting runlevel? I don't want it to start automatically, just when I call it | 16:20 |
rbasak | Debian and Ubuntu don't use runlevels to distinguish between text and GUI modes. | 16:20 |
rbasak | Just disable the correct service. lightdm probably. | 16:21 |
rbasak | http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#override-files is the method to disable a service with upstart. | 16:21 |
devster31 | ok, so I can also try installing manually all packages except lightdm? | 16:22 |
rbasak | I think that's more trouble than it's worth. | 16:24 |
devster31 | fair enough, thanks | 16:24 |
rbasak | You start needing to develop a deep understanding of all the package involved, rather than just installing the metapackage. | 16:24 |
rbasak | You may need something that depends on it. | 16:24 |
RoyK | devster31: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should do if you want graphics | 16:25 |
devster31 | I'm trying to do something weirder, I want to use x2go on a remote server with ubuntu-mate, but the ubuntu-mate-desktop metapackage automatically installs lightdm and boots into the login screen instead of console, so I wanted a way to boot the server without the additional gui stuff but still being able to load it when I use x2go | 16:27 |
Walex | devster31: thanks for letting us know :-) | 16:29 |
Walex | devster31: the previous suggestions and terminology are not quite right. | 16:30 |
Walex | devster31: Debian derived systems don't really have "runlevels", just single and multiuser mode. | 16:30 |
Walex | devster31: by default in multiuser mode a "Display Manager" is started, and the display manager then starts an X server and an X client session. | 16:31 |
Walex | devster31: to prevent the activation of the display manager in Debian-like system set '/etc/X11/default-display-manager' to "none". | 16:32 |
Walex | devster31: if you want a display manager to manager display on other hosts, but without starting a local X session, you have to edit the display manager's configuration accordingly. | 16:33 |
devster31 | I'm experimenting on a local VM before setting up the server, when you say "if you want a display manager to manage... " does it include ssh x11 forwarding? do I need a display manager to use x2go? | 16:36 |
Walex | devster31: no, it does not include X11 forwarding. | 16:42 |
devster31 | ok, so I'm safe setting it to none, I'm never going to use it locally, just over ssh or x2go | 16:43 |
Walex | devster31: when you use SSH or X2Go forwarding the remote display is usually managed already by a display manager. | 16:44 |
Walex | But note that if you run the X2go *server* on the host you connect to, that needs a display manager. | 16:44 |
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devster31 | it doesn't seem to be in the dependency list, but then again it is in the dependencies of almost every desktop environment | 16:50 |
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bananamanjoe | Could someone help me again? I succesfully set up DNS on my ubuntu server, and am able to ping it with my w7 client IF i manually give it the dns address in network properties. How can send the dns information so it finds it on auto? | 16:51 |
RoyK | bananamanjoe: official domain? | 16:53 |
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bananamanjoe | I don´t know what that is RoyK, its supposed to look like this http://puu.sh/f9hrR/4561171a32.png. but if i use auto find DNS it doesnt find it at all http://puu.sh/f9hrR/4561171a32.png | 17:05 |
bananamanjoe | oops | 17:05 |
bananamanjoe | http://puu.sh/f9hwf/3a433d4eeb.png* | 17:05 |
patdk-wk | fix your dhcp server settings | 17:06 |
bananamanjoe | what´s wrong with them? | 17:07 |
patdk-wk | what you posted | 17:08 |
patdk-wk | it's EMPTY | 17:08 |
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f00lhardy | I'm setting up crushftp sftp server under ubu serv 14.04. For a linux ftp server, where is the standard place to put folders for ftp users? | 18:07 |
f00lhardy | #crushftp | 18:08 |
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devster31 | Walex changing /etc/X11/default-display-manager to non seriously breaks everything | 19:30 |
devster31 | no login on boot via CLI or GUI | 19:31 |
devster31 | no x session | 19:31 |
QcR | Hi | 19:46 |
sergey | What should I install and configure to make my site PHP send emails? | 19:47 |
QcR | sendmail | 19:47 |
QcR | easiest software | 19:48 |
sarnold | postfix or exim | 19:48 |
sergey | I just never did it before. Can you give URL to good tutorial from your point of view? | 19:49 |
sarnold | sergey: give these a shot: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/email-services.html | 19:50 |
jrwren | sergey: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/email-services.html | 19:50 |
jrwren | sarnold: ^5 ! | 19:50 |
sarnold | jrwren: :) ^5 | 19:50 |
sergey | thanks | 19:51 |
jrwren | wow. https://packagecloud.io/pricing | 21:06 |
RoyK | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9924008/ <-- anyone that knows what 'depth' means about the NCQ? and the AA after it? | 21:07 |
pmatulis | jrwren, sarnold: re squid & universe, actually squid3 is in main :$ | 21:10 |
sarnold | pmatulis: sorry, how did I miss that? | 21:11 |
jrwren | pmatulis: same here. I missed it, and squid is just a virtual package for squid3 | 21:11 |
ppetraki | RoyK, depth = # outstanding commands, AA is some sort of flag surrounding FPDMA. Not really sure what the code means | 21:14 |
ppetraki | RoyK, libata-core.c line 2128 | 21:14 |
RoyK | ppetraki: thanks | 21:15 |
ppetraki | RoyK, ah, "FPDMA auto activate" | 21:15 |
* RoyK wonders | 21:17 | |
RoyK | how does CFQ and NCQ compare or compete? | 21:18 |
sarnold | isnt one sas and the other sata? | 21:18 |
RoyK | CFQ is the one in Linux written for rotating rust | 21:19 |
sarnold | durrrrrrr | 21:19 |
RoyK | TCQ is the one for SAS/SCSI | 21:19 |
sarnold | dont mind me :) | 21:19 |
RoyK | :) | 21:19 |
* RoyK throws a snowball in sarnold's direction | 21:19 | |
sarnold | ow | 21:19 |
ppetraki | play nice kids | 21:19 |
RoyK | hehe | 21:19 |
RoyK | *kids* :D | 21:20 |
* sarnold throws a snowball at ppetraki | 21:20 | |
* ppetraki is too old to duck soon enough | 21:20 | |
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bananamanjoe | Can anyone tell me what i´ve been doing wrong? I´ve been stuck trying to setup a DNS server all day http://puu.sh/faasf/be353e9204.png | 22:46 |
qman__ | bananamanjoe: check /var/log/syslog for errors from BIND and pastebin them | 23:03 |
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bananamanjoe | qman__ I´m running it on vmware with host-only network and no gui. is there a quickway to get it to pastebin? | 23:07 |
bekks | Install pastebinit and run "pastebinit /var/log/syslog" then | 23:07 |
qman__ | bananamanjoe: well, try this then | 23:10 |
qman__ | sudo service bind9 restart; tail -f /var/log/syslog | 23:12 |
qman__ | you're interested in the first error that bind throws (might be under 'named' as well) | 23:12 |
bananamanjoe | oh that´s really helpfull, at first glance it seems to be syntax errors, let me fiddle a bit and come back^^ | 23:18 |
bananamanjoe | Yes! It´s working. Thanks for the help qman__. It was indeed some very stupid typo by me | 23:21 |
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