[00:00] <MFen> athan: just a theory here, but does bin/deconfigured start a daemon process?
[00:00] <athan> MFen: Not quite, it does invoke a server though
[00:00] <athan> it doesn't fork anything
[00:01] <MFen> ok, so that process stays running in the foreground
[00:01] <athan> It connects to port 80 & does the http stuff
[00:01] <athan> yep!
[00:01] <athan> It does some basic logs - 200 responses etc
[00:01] <athan> (it's weird, my tests that caused resets actually logged as 200s)
[00:02] <MFen> you've exhausted my knowledge then sry :)
[00:08] <athan> Thanks anyway MFen !
[00:15] <athan> hmm this is interesting, so the http response doesn't actually go through (even on `lo`)
[00:15] <athan> I could show .pcap's if helpful :)
[00:15] <athan> 6 ACK's from the browser, and nothing back :O
[00:17] <athan> er... wait... shouldn't the ACK come _after_ the 200 response? :s
[00:17] <athan> or maybe it's just a "resend" signal
[00:20] <JanC> athan: when you start it yourself vs. upstart, there might be different users, and/or different environments
[00:21] <athan> JanC: There isn't anything particular in the executable, though
[00:21] <athan> I have full control over the code - there are only 2 or three things which vary based on the runtime
[00:21] <athan> which are fully logged and don't matter much in terms of http responses :\
[00:22] <JanC> e.g. things started by upstart probably don't have a console available etc.
[00:23] <JanC> that's the sort of thing you might want to look into
[00:24]  * JanC leaves now, have to get up early in the morning  :)
[00:35] <athan> oop, sorry!
[00:36] <athan> with `console log`, I thought all stdout/stderr got piped to a file? :S
[13:27] <hitlin37> i have one conceptual question
[13:28] <hitlin37> if i stop a job based on a false condition of configuration file than it will not respawn. 
[13:28] <hitlin37> right?
[13:28] <hitlin37> even if job says respqn.
[13:29] <hitlin37> all i have to do is to exit 0 in pre-start.
[14:58] <hitlin37> specifically, i'm talking about this : http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#stop-a-job-from-running-if-its-configuration-file-has-not-been-created-modified
[14:59] <hitlin37> so,, was interested to know if it will respwan if stopped in pre-start, even if job conf says resqpwan