/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/01/29/#kubuntu-devel.txt

valoriethanks again, yofel00:04
valoriesweet dreams00:04
shadeslayerdamn00:22
shadeslayerruby is just ...00:22
shadeslayerhttps://paste.kde.org/p2s0qohui00:22
valorieshadeslayer: are you saying that yielding is not pretty?00:34
shadeslayervalorie: in that particular context, it seems a bit confusing00:35
valorie:-)00:35
shadeslayerthe string gets interpolated and then there's a yield in the interpolation which makes it go whoooooo00:35
shadeslayerI wonder what happens if the yield happens in the beginning00:35
valoriethese sentences have no meaning to a non-coder00:35
valorieexcept to make jokes with00:36
valoriesorry00:36
shadeslayerheh 00:36
shadeslayerfun thing, yield apparently has lowest(?) precedence?00:37
shadeslayerI need to find out more!00:37
shadeslayeraha01:03
shadeslayerturns out it interpolates the block into the string01:03
shadeslayernot sure why that was such a difficult thing for me to figure out01:04
ScottKRiddell: Traveling this week for work, so time is even more limited than usual.  I'd suggest finding someone else or ping me again next week.01:37
soeegood morning07:31
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soeeRiddell: ping08:04
sitterRiddell: where are we with filemetadata?08:19
lordievaderGood morning.08:36
bukaiRiddell: Hi08:42
bukaiRiddell: http://test2.kubuntu.co.uk/wordpress/ is complete08:46
sitterbukai: if you are looking for feedback on the site please send a mail to the kubuntu-devel mailing list08:47
bukaisitter: ok,will do !08:48
sitterI think we still need profiling at least ;)08:48
sitterRiddell: bludevil copied, stage0 wiped08:55
sitteralso for the future I think it would be handy to continue having multiple stages and clearly named08:56
sittere.g. stage-frameworks, stage-plasma, stage-applications, stage-random08:56
valoriehmmm, I now get a core dump trying to start up calibre after upgrade to 14.1208:56
lordievaderbukai: Perhaps it would be a good idea to set an upper boundary on how large the page can be. Images are gettings stretched here.09:00
bukailordievader: which images?09:00
lordievaderbukai: Header mostely, though the latest article images don't look their best either. But there I blame low source res.09:02
lordievaderbukai: I'll send a screenshot in a bit, need to compile ksnapshot first.09:02
bukaiok, please send me a screenshot so that i can fix it09:02
lordievaderbukai: http://corellian.student.utwente.nl/files/kubu-wp.png09:05
bukailordievader: ok, I will try to fix it asap09:07
lordievader:D09:07
sitterIMO the problem is that the site scales without limit in width09:08
sitterthe wider your screen is the worse it looks09:08
lordievaderYes, I agree.09:09
sitterhttp://imgur.com/ds6Tuy309:09
lordievaderThe image is probably made for 4:3, this is a 16:9 screen.09:09
lordievaderHeh ;)09:10
lordievaderbukai: Also, and this might be personal, could you inch the kubuntu logo down a bit, something like 10px is likely enough.09:11
bukaiI tried to do that but an extra line was being created that caused problem in the news feed page09:12
bukailordievader: ^09:12
lordievaderHmm, yes it behaves very strangely.09:14
lordievaderbukai: Err nevermind my previous statement, haven't had coffee. Add a 'margin-top: 10px;' to #logo and you are done.09:16
sitterkubotu: order coffee for lordievader09:19
* kubotu slides a cup of steamy hot coffee down the bar to lordievader.09:19
soeesitter: ping09:19
lordievader\o/09:19
sittersoee: おはよう what can I do for you?09:20
soeein vivid there was problem with package libkwin4-effect-builtins i think, that was held back and teh result was that there was not decoration for windows, compositing section in system settigns did nto work, some windows did not respond09:21
sitteris it still held back?09:21
soeeinstalling again kubuntu-desktop fixed it as some packages were udpated and some added09:21
soeei just wanted to mention that there was such problem09:22
sittermh, thanks, without means to debug it I can't say much about it :P09:22
sittermight well be that one of Riddell's uploads got lost somewhere along the line09:23
soeeill check letaer at home if have teh same on my laptop and try do provide more details09:24
sitterどうも09:24
bukailordievader: I added that 10px margin bit please check out any news you will see there one more extra space in the header 09:25
valorieupdate to 14.12 went fine for me, but: https://paste.kde.org/poljrr5je09:28
valorieno can install kubuntu-desktop09:28
lordievaderbukai: I see what you mean. To which element did you add it? By browser doesn't list the attribute.09:29
sittervalorie: kubuntu-desktop isn't isntallable with plasma509:30
sitternot on kubuntu 14.10 anyway09:30
bukailordievader: https://paste.kde.org/pfchs5sfm09:30
valorieok09:31
valorieI'll upgrade to vivid soon09:32
lordievaderbukai: Ah, I applied it to the id logo (the image itself) rather than the div container.09:33
lordievaderbukai: Is it intended that the background of the logo is non-white?09:33
bukailordievader: no09:34
lordievaderThis becomes apparent since the div is pushed down rather than the image.09:34
sittervalorie: fwiw I think the package you are looking for is kubuntu-plasma5-desktop ^^09:42
valorieinstalled, 's ok09:44
bukailordievader: yes, it's fixed now09:44
lordievaderbukai: Ah precisely, nice :D09:45
sitterhm09:55
sitteryofel: it appears to me that you forgot to push kde4libs 4:4.14.2-4~ubuntu3 to bzr09:55
* sitter squints and since when do we have a tilde sign between debianrev and our rev Oo09:56
sittervery weird this package09:56
bukailordievader: Can you please give me a link or provide me with a cool kununtu banner?10:01
bukaiI am thinking about removing the top slider but there is hardly any images to replace that10:02
lordievaderbukai: Err, no sorry. But there is likely someone here with more awesome Kubuntu powers ;)10:02
bukaiCan anyone please provide me with some cool kubuntu pictures for the banner ?10:03
valorieperhaps look at the kubuntu g+?10:04
valorieI seem to recall a lot of shared photos10:04
bukaivalorie: there also most of the pictures are not fit as banners 10:08
valoriesurely we have old banners somewhere from our old website?10:10
sitterhttp://www.kubuntu.org/files/images/kubuntu-14.04.png10:23
sitterif they had been named consistently maybe10:24
bukaiOk, it can  be used but It's too narrow so in the site it will be blured10:29
sitterwell, we'd want a new banner anyway I presume?10:31
lordievaderYou could vectorize it.11:05
lordievaderhttp://www.wikihow.com/Trace-an-Image-Using-Inkscape11:06
sgclarkmorning11:33
soeehiho sgclark11:42
lordievadero/11:46
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Riddellhola, not around much today, packing for fosdem12:27
RiddellSick_Rimmit: do you know if the stuff you posted arrived?12:31
Sick_RimmitRiddell: I do not know, my wife posted it, and they said it would get there today12:32
Riddellok I'll e-mail the guy12:33
Riddellovidiu-florin: all good to come to fosdem with t-shirts?12:34
yofelsitter: kde4libs is a mess, the change is on alioth in the kubuntu_vivid branch12:36
lordievader\o/ yayy tshirts, can I reserve one?12:38
soeeRiddell: ping12:39
sitteryofel: my oh my12:39
sitterRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9936300/ new default output of tarme12:44
sitteryofel: why is that branch named kubuntu_vivid anyway?12:47
yofelno idea12:47
sitter>.<12:48
sitterRiddell: please fix kde4libs branch name when you get a chance12:50
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Riddellhi soee 12:52
Riddellsitter: why does it say what there isn't translations for rather than what there is?12:53
Riddellkfunk: we need to test kdevplatform on utopic and trusty too for bug 141545112:54
ubottubug 1415451 in kdevplatform (Ubuntu Utopic) "Subversion plugin still not being shipped" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141545112:54
soeeRiddell: there will ba small chnage on my 'promo' site, i will add small section for news related to kubuntu - there will be ~3-4 teasers of last posts on main page and separate one where they will be paginated etc.12:54
sitterRiddell: how about both?12:59
sitteror how about neither? and just dump the information into a file13:00
sitterI rather think that the release-info file of the previous releaseme will make a return. if we were to change the release_data stuff to use yaml format that could easily go there and eventually would also allow tagme to tag translations in SVN I suppose13:02
sitteralso, we'll need a place to dump translation statistics (percentage of translated etc.)13:03
BluesKajHey folks13:09
soeehiho BluesKaj13:10
BluesKajHey soee13:11
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kfunkRiddell: yep13:32
RiddellSick_Rimmit: he's asking for a tracking number13:44
sebasKubuntu 14.10 Plasma 5 — Tech Preview << is this iso already updated to 5.2?13:47
Sick_RimmitRiddell: I'm sorry I don't have that to hand, as my wife posted it. She's at work at the moment14:06
Sick_RimmitRiddell: I'm sorry but I probably can't get that until  late this evening14:07
BluesKajSick_Rimmit, does your wife run linux too?...been trying to convince wife, but running LOTRO in wine isn't an option for her14:09
soeeoh planetkde.org with new layout14:14
soeemuch better now14:15
soeeclean and simple14:15
sittersebas: no, I don't think there are plans to reroll the 14.10 iso, so first iso with 5.2 would be the actual 15.04 release14:15
sebassitter: ok, thanks ... will pass that on!14:16
sittersebas: google plus just told me http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/01/upgrade-to-kde-plasma-5-2-kubuntu-14-10/ xD14:18
* sitter is marvels at the fact that this guide uses ugly apt-get instead of sexy apt14:19
sebassitter: thanks ... I had suggested that to the user, he asked if there also was an iso14:19
sittermh, yeah, installing 14.10 next and then doing the PPA stuff is probably the best bet there14:20
Riddellweird moan du jour https://paste.kde.org/pneszhg8m14:21
sitterthis bruce of course has a point14:22
sitterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_p0CgPeyA14:22
sitterRiddell: reply that he should unplug from networkz and then nothing will be downloaded?14:23
sitterI reckon he's bemoaning the fact that language packs are being installed14:23
sitterI can totally imagine the pain of those on dialup xD14:23
sebasWe should totally connect Australia to the Internet.14:24
sitteron a related note Austria also has crappy internet xD14:24
* sitter at 240kbs right now due to line proflining14:24
sebasYou mean "Austria no kangaroos Austria"?14:24
sitterRiddell: oh oh, I won't be around on monday, possibly not at all in fact, they are doing line maintenance so no internet access except for mobile edge14:25
sittersebas: yes, that Austria ^^14:25
sebasI'd miss the kangaroos.14:25
sebassitter: I think you and windows 10 should also join up.14:25
sitterit's a right shame, life without kangaroos in your backyard just isn't the same14:25
sebassitter: it definitely "make ya wonder"14:26
sitterxD14:26
BluesKajW10, MS is just digging themselves deeper into the hole ...they don't get it14:27
* sitter hasn't even read up on it14:27
sebasWin10 seems like every second release by MS, mainly there to fix the mistakes of their every first release.14:28
sebasOnly this time around they skipped a version to fool everybody that this is the second bad release in a row.14:28
yofelnah, they just did it because seing "win" and a 9 in the same sentence still gives people (and code) nightmares14:29
sebasYou mean "duck and cover, WinME is around the corner again!"?14:30
sitterME, cheez, I totally didn't get the point of that thing14:30
sebasWell, who didn't want a more unstable version of Windows than Win98?14:31
yofelwell, not really, ME is the thing where everybody tries to deny its existence14:31
BluesKajwonder when the pc makers are going realize the MS OSs are no longer wanted or needed by knowledgeable pc buyers 14:31
BluesKajand offer pcs with no OS installed ...save a few bucks as well14:33
sebasI think people expect PCs to come with an  OS installed by default. Seems a reasonable expectation to me.14:34
sitteryeah14:34
sitterthen again the home consumer market is imploding anyway14:34
sitterso at some point only tech savy people and businesses would buy pcs and I reckon both of those groups have somewhat specific expectations of what should or should not be on their systems anyway14:35
BluesKajsebas, most consumers yes, but there should be a no OS option 14:35
* sebas nods. Would be nice if I didn't have to pay for Windows yet again with a new laptop.14:35
BluesKajexactly14:35
soeed_ed: +1 for the plasmoid tutorial, will try it later at home :)14:38
soeeRiddell: would it be possible to lazy load images on planetkde.org ?14:38
d_edsoee: more coming14:39
sittereverything is possible if someone makes it happen :P14:39
soeed_ed: nice, this is what i was looking for - step by step tuts14:39
Riddellsoee: patches welcome14:39
soeeRiddell: oki will think of it but not before promo site14:40
Riddell:)14:43
soeeseems like libreoffice now integrates with kde14:50
soeeare there any plans to release new icons ?14:50
ovidiu-florinRiddell: they are packed but not checked on their weight17:27
ovidiu-florinyet17:27
manchickenRiddell: I haven't heard back from Gilles yet, have you?17:29
BluesKajis plasma 5.2 default on 15.04 yet...got some user crying about having to install then upgrade plasma afterwards17:44
yofelBluesKaj: should be, possibly some piece still stuck in proposed, but from what I saw I got everything as an update today17:51
BluesKajyofel, thanks ..in proposed you say..is there a ppa one can use?17:51
yofelI don't know, sorry17:52
BluesKajor can you post the proposed deb line17:52
yofelyou can just enable that from software-properties, but I would really not recommend that. It's usually more trouble than worth it17:53
yofellet me check britney17:54
ovidiu-florinwhen will you guys arrive?17:55
BluesKajyofel,well the user will just have to wait til it's default in the daily I guess17:55
yofelBluesKaj: I don't see anything plasma related in britney anymore so at least the next image build should be good17:56
yofelcan't say if today's image is17:56
BluesKajright , thanks yofel17:58
ovidiu-florinhello people, when will you arrive in Brucelles?18:09
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Tommorow evening somewhere. Were you the one in charge of tshirts?18:31
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Are you going to be at the beer event?18:32
Riddellmanchicken: no I haven't, just patch it to enable libkgeothing19:01
RiddellRiddell: alias cmake..='cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_SYSCONFDIR=/etc -DKDE_INSTALL_USE_QT_SYS_PATHS=ON -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr ..'19:20
ovidiu-florinlordievader: I'll do my best to attend at every event19:42
ovidiu-florinyes I'm in charge of the T-shirts19:43
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Cool, can I reserve one?19:43
ovidiu-florinthere are 10019:43
ovidiu-florinI guess there's one for each19:44
ovidiu-florinask Riddell19:44
ovidiu-florinRiddell: are you around?20:47
Riddellhi ovidiu-florin 20:54
Riddellovidiu-florin: you got my spanish and uk phone number?20:54
ovidiu-florinyes21:00
ovidiu-florinRiddell: ^21:00
ovidiu-florinwhy?21:00
ovidiu-florinRiddell: I have Rick's T-shirt, any idea how I can get them to him?21:01
ovidiu-florinT-shirts (4 of them)21:01
Riddellovidiu-florin: give it to someone going back to the uk21:03
Riddellthe bigger question is has his posters arrived, I suspect not :(21:04
ovidiu-florincan you ask Andreas?21:04
Riddellhe had not got them this morning21:05
ovidiu-florinthat doesn't sound good21:05
ovidiu-florinRiddell: do we get Badges?21:05
RiddellI have some white stickers to write on21:06
Riddellnot very professional looking21:06
ovidiu-florinthat's not good21:08
ovidiu-florinwe should have have some21:08
ovidiu-florinwhat about our business cards?21:10
ovidiu-florineach one prints his own?21:10
Riddellyeah21:15
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