[00:04] <valorie> thanks again, yofel
[00:04] <valorie> sweet dreams
[00:22] <shadeslayer> damn
[00:22] <shadeslayer> ruby is just ...
[00:22] <shadeslayer> https://paste.kde.org/p2s0qohui
[00:34] <valorie> shadeslayer: are you saying that yielding is not pretty?
[00:35] <shadeslayer> valorie: in that particular context, it seems a bit confusing
[00:35] <valorie> :-)
[00:35] <shadeslayer> the string gets interpolated and then there's a yield in the interpolation which makes it go whoooooo
[00:35] <shadeslayer> I wonder what happens if the yield happens in the beginning
[00:35] <valorie> these sentences have no meaning to a non-coder
[00:36] <valorie> except to make jokes with
[00:36] <valorie> sorry
[00:36] <shadeslayer> heh 
[00:37] <shadeslayer> fun thing, yield apparently has lowest(?) precedence?
[00:37] <shadeslayer> I need to find out more!
[01:03] <shadeslayer> aha
[01:03] <shadeslayer> turns out it interpolates the block into the string
[01:04] <shadeslayer> not sure why that was such a difficult thing for me to figure out
[01:37] <ScottK> Riddell: Traveling this week for work, so time is even more limited than usual.  I'd suggest finding someone else or ping me again next week.
[07:31] <soee> good morning
[08:04] <soee> Riddell: ping
[08:19] <sitter> Riddell: where are we with filemetadata?
[08:36] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:42] <bukai> Riddell: Hi
[08:46] <bukai> Riddell: http://test2.kubuntu.co.uk/wordpress/ is complete
[08:47] <sitter> bukai: if you are looking for feedback on the site please send a mail to the kubuntu-devel mailing list
[08:48] <bukai> sitter: ok,will do !
[08:48] <sitter> I think we still need profiling at least ;)
[08:55] <sitter> Riddell: bludevil copied, stage0 wiped
[08:56] <sitter> also for the future I think it would be handy to continue having multiple stages and clearly named
[08:56] <sitter> e.g. stage-frameworks, stage-plasma, stage-applications, stage-random
[08:56] <valorie> hmmm, I now get a core dump trying to start up calibre after upgrade to 14.12
[09:00] <lordievader> bukai: Perhaps it would be a good idea to set an upper boundary on how large the page can be. Images are gettings stretched here.
[09:00] <bukai> lordievader: which images?
[09:02] <lordievader> bukai: Header mostely, though the latest article images don't look their best either. But there I blame low source res.
[09:02] <lordievader> bukai: I'll send a screenshot in a bit, need to compile ksnapshot first.
[09:02] <bukai> ok, please send me a screenshot so that i can fix it
[09:05] <lordievader> bukai: http://corellian.student.utwente.nl/files/kubu-wp.png
[09:07] <bukai> lordievader: ok, I will try to fix it asap
[09:07] <lordievader> :D
[09:08] <sitter> IMO the problem is that the site scales without limit in width
[09:08] <sitter> the wider your screen is the worse it looks
[09:09] <lordievader> Yes, I agree.
[09:09] <sitter> http://imgur.com/ds6Tuy3
[09:09] <lordievader> The image is probably made for 4:3, this is a 16:9 screen.
[09:10] <lordievader> Heh ;)
[09:11] <lordievader> bukai: Also, and this might be personal, could you inch the kubuntu logo down a bit, something like 10px is likely enough.
[09:12] <bukai> I tried to do that but an extra line was being created that caused problem in the news feed page
[09:12] <bukai> lordievader: ^
[09:14] <lordievader> Hmm, yes it behaves very strangely.
[09:16] <lordievader> bukai: Err nevermind my previous statement, haven't had coffee. Add a 'margin-top: 10px;' to #logo and you are done.
[09:19] <sitter> kubotu: order coffee for lordievader
[09:19]  * kubotu slides a cup of steamy hot coffee down the bar to lordievader.
[09:19] <soee> sitter: ping
[09:19] <lordievader> \o/
[09:20] <sitter> soee: おはよう what can I do for you?
[09:21] <soee> in vivid there was problem with package libkwin4-effect-builtins i think, that was held back and teh result was that there was not decoration for windows, compositing section in system settigns did nto work, some windows did not respond
[09:21] <sitter> is it still held back?
[09:21] <soee> installing again kubuntu-desktop fixed it as some packages were udpated and some added
[09:22] <soee> i just wanted to mention that there was such problem
[09:22] <sitter> mh, thanks, without means to debug it I can't say much about it :P
[09:23] <sitter> might well be that one of Riddell's uploads got lost somewhere along the line
[09:24] <soee> ill check letaer at home if have teh same on my laptop and try do provide more details
[09:24] <sitter> どうも
[09:25] <bukai> lordievader: I added that 10px margin bit please check out any news you will see there one more extra space in the header 
[09:28] <valorie> update to 14.12 went fine for me, but: https://paste.kde.org/poljrr5je
[09:28] <valorie> no can install kubuntu-desktop
[09:29] <lordievader> bukai: I see what you mean. To which element did you add it? By browser doesn't list the attribute.
[09:30] <sitter> valorie: kubuntu-desktop isn't isntallable with plasma5
[09:30] <sitter> not on kubuntu 14.10 anyway
[09:30] <bukai> lordievader: https://paste.kde.org/pfchs5sfm
[09:31] <valorie> ok
[09:32] <valorie> I'll upgrade to vivid soon
[09:33] <lordievader> bukai: Ah, I applied it to the id logo (the image itself) rather than the div container.
[09:33] <lordievader> bukai: Is it intended that the background of the logo is non-white?
[09:34] <bukai> lordievader: no
[09:34] <lordievader> This becomes apparent since the div is pushed down rather than the image.
[09:42] <sitter> valorie: fwiw I think the package you are looking for is kubuntu-plasma5-desktop ^^
[09:44] <valorie> installed, 's ok
[09:44] <bukai> lordievader: yes, it's fixed now
[09:45] <lordievader> bukai: Ah precisely, nice :D
[09:55] <sitter> hm
[09:55] <sitter> yofel: it appears to me that you forgot to push kde4libs 4:4.14.2-4~ubuntu3 to bzr
[09:56]  * sitter squints and since when do we have a tilde sign between debianrev and our rev Oo
[09:56] <sitter> very weird this package
[10:01] <bukai> lordievader: Can you please give me a link or provide me with a cool kununtu banner?
[10:02] <bukai> I am thinking about removing the top slider but there is hardly any images to replace that
[10:02] <lordievader> bukai: Err, no sorry. But there is likely someone here with more awesome Kubuntu powers ;)
[10:03] <bukai> Can anyone please provide me with some cool kubuntu pictures for the banner ?
[10:04] <valorie> perhaps look at the kubuntu g+?
[10:04] <valorie> I seem to recall a lot of shared photos
[10:08] <bukai> valorie: there also most of the pictures are not fit as banners 
[10:10] <valorie> surely we have old banners somewhere from our old website?
[10:23] <sitter> http://www.kubuntu.org/files/images/kubuntu-14.04.png
[10:24] <sitter> if they had been named consistently maybe
[10:29] <bukai> Ok, it can  be used but It's too narrow so in the site it will be blured
[10:31] <sitter> well, we'd want a new banner anyway I presume?
[11:05] <lordievader> You could vectorize it.
[11:06] <lordievader> http://www.wikihow.com/Trace-an-Image-Using-Inkscape
[11:33] <sgclark> morning
[11:42] <soee> hiho sgclark
[11:46] <lordievader> o/
[12:27] <Riddell> hola, not around much today, packing for fosdem
[12:31] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: do you know if the stuff you posted arrived?
[12:32] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I do not know, my wife posted it, and they said it would get there today
[12:33] <Riddell> ok I'll e-mail the guy
[12:34] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: all good to come to fosdem with t-shirts?
[12:36] <yofel> sitter: kde4libs is a mess, the change is on alioth in the kubuntu_vivid branch
[12:38] <lordievader> \o/ yayy tshirts, can I reserve one?
[12:39] <soee> Riddell: ping
[12:39] <sitter> yofel: my oh my
[12:44] <sitter> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9936300/ new default output of tarme
[12:47] <sitter> yofel: why is that branch named kubuntu_vivid anyway?
[12:47] <yofel> no idea
[12:48] <sitter> >.<
[12:50] <sitter> Riddell: please fix kde4libs branch name when you get a chance
[12:52] <Riddell> hi soee 
[12:53] <Riddell> sitter: why does it say what there isn't translations for rather than what there is?
[12:54] <Riddell> kfunk: we need to test kdevplatform on utopic and trusty too for bug 1415451
[12:54] <soee> Riddell: there will ba small chnage on my 'promo' site, i will add small section for news related to kubuntu - there will be ~3-4 teasers of last posts on main page and separate one where they will be paginated etc.
[12:59] <sitter> Riddell: how about both?
[13:00] <sitter> or how about neither? and just dump the information into a file
[13:02] <sitter> I rather think that the release-info file of the previous releaseme will make a return. if we were to change the release_data stuff to use yaml format that could easily go there and eventually would also allow tagme to tag translations in SVN I suppose
[13:03] <sitter> also, we'll need a place to dump translation statistics (percentage of translated etc.)
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:10] <soee> hiho BluesKaj
[13:11] <BluesKaj> Hey soee
[13:32] <kfunk> Riddell: yep
[13:44] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: he's asking for a tracking number
[13:47] <sebas> Kubuntu 14.10 Plasma 5 — Tech Preview << is this iso already updated to 5.2?
[14:06] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I'm sorry I don't have that to hand, as my wife posted it. She's at work at the moment
[14:07] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I'm sorry but I probably can't get that until  late this evening
[14:09] <BluesKaj> Sick_Rimmit, does your wife run linux too?...been trying to convince wife, but running LOTRO in wine isn't an option for her
[14:14] <soee> oh planetkde.org with new layout
[14:15] <soee> much better now
[14:15] <soee> clean and simple
[14:15] <sitter> sebas: no, I don't think there are plans to reroll the 14.10 iso, so first iso with 5.2 would be the actual 15.04 release
[14:16] <sebas> sitter: ok, thanks ... will pass that on!
[14:18] <sitter> sebas: google plus just told me http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/01/upgrade-to-kde-plasma-5-2-kubuntu-14-10/ xD
[14:19]  * sitter is marvels at the fact that this guide uses ugly apt-get instead of sexy apt
[14:19] <sebas> sitter: thanks ... I had suggested that to the user, he asked if there also was an iso
[14:20] <sitter> mh, yeah, installing 14.10 next and then doing the PPA stuff is probably the best bet there
[14:21] <Riddell> weird moan du jour https://paste.kde.org/pneszhg8m
[14:22] <sitter> this bruce of course has a point
[14:22] <sitter> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_p0CgPeyA
[14:23] <sitter> Riddell: reply that he should unplug from networkz and then nothing will be downloaded?
[14:23] <sitter> I reckon he's bemoaning the fact that language packs are being installed
[14:23] <sitter> I can totally imagine the pain of those on dialup xD
[14:24] <sebas> We should totally connect Australia to the Internet.
[14:24] <sitter> on a related note Austria also has crappy internet xD
[14:24]  * sitter at 240kbs right now due to line proflining
[14:24] <sebas> You mean "Austria no kangaroos Austria"?
[14:25] <sitter> Riddell: oh oh, I won't be around on monday, possibly not at all in fact, they are doing line maintenance so no internet access except for mobile edge
[14:25] <sitter> sebas: yes, that Austria ^^
[14:25] <sebas> I'd miss the kangaroos.
[14:25] <sebas> sitter: I think you and windows 10 should also join up.
[14:25] <sitter> it's a right shame, life without kangaroos in your backyard just isn't the same
[14:26] <sebas> sitter: it definitely "make ya wonder"
[14:26] <sitter> xD
[14:27] <BluesKaj> W10, MS is just digging themselves deeper into the hole ...they don't get it
[14:27]  * sitter hasn't even read up on it
[14:28] <sebas> Win10 seems like every second release by MS, mainly there to fix the mistakes of their every first release.
[14:28] <sebas> Only this time around they skipped a version to fool everybody that this is the second bad release in a row.
[14:29] <yofel> nah, they just did it because seing "win" and a 9 in the same sentence still gives people (and code) nightmares
[14:30] <sebas> You mean "duck and cover, WinME is around the corner again!"?
[14:30] <sitter> ME, cheez, I totally didn't get the point of that thing
[14:31] <sebas> Well, who didn't want a more unstable version of Windows than Win98?
[14:31] <yofel> well, not really, ME is the thing where everybody tries to deny its existence
[14:31] <BluesKaj> wonder when the pc makers are going realize the MS OSs are no longer wanted or needed by knowledgeable pc buyers 
[14:33] <BluesKaj> and offer pcs with no OS installed ...save a few bucks as well
[14:34] <sebas> I think people expect PCs to come with an  OS installed by default. Seems a reasonable expectation to me.
[14:34] <sitter> yeah
[14:34] <sitter> then again the home consumer market is imploding anyway
[14:35] <sitter> so at some point only tech savy people and businesses would buy pcs and I reckon both of those groups have somewhat specific expectations of what should or should not be on their systems anyway
[14:35] <BluesKaj> sebas, most consumers yes, but there should be a no OS option 
[14:35]  * sebas nods. Would be nice if I didn't have to pay for Windows yet again with a new laptop.
[14:35] <BluesKaj> exactly
[14:38] <soee> d_ed: +1 for the plasmoid tutorial, will try it later at home :)
[14:38] <soee> Riddell: would it be possible to lazy load images on planetkde.org ?
[14:39] <d_ed> soee: more coming
[14:39] <sitter> everything is possible if someone makes it happen :P
[14:39] <soee> d_ed: nice, this is what i was looking for - step by step tuts
[14:39] <Riddell> soee: patches welcome
[14:40] <soee> Riddell: oki will think of it but not before promo site
[14:43] <Riddell> :)
[14:50] <soee> seems like libreoffice now integrates with kde
[14:50] <soee> are there any plans to release new icons ?
[17:27] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: they are packed but not checked on their weight
[17:27] <ovidiu-florin> yet
[17:29] <manchicken> Riddell: I haven't heard back from Gilles yet, have you?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> is plasma 5.2 default on 15.04 yet...got some user crying about having to install then upgrade plasma afterwards
[17:51] <yofel> BluesKaj: should be, possibly some piece still stuck in proposed, but from what I saw I got everything as an update today
[17:51] <BluesKaj> yofel, thanks ..in proposed you say..is there a ppa one can use?
[17:52] <yofel> I don't know, sorry
[17:52] <BluesKaj> or can you post the proposed deb line
[17:53] <yofel> you can just enable that from software-properties, but I would really not recommend that. It's usually more trouble than worth it
[17:54] <yofel> let me check britney
[17:55] <ovidiu-florin> when will you guys arrive?
[17:55] <BluesKaj> yofel,well the user will just have to wait til it's default in the daily I guess
[17:56] <yofel> BluesKaj: I don't see anything plasma related in britney anymore so at least the next image build should be good
[17:56] <yofel> can't say if today's image is
[17:58] <BluesKaj> right , thanks yofel
[18:09] <ovidiu-florin> hello people, when will you arrive in Brucelles?
[18:31] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Tommorow evening somewhere. Were you the one in charge of tshirts?
[18:32] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Are you going to be at the beer event?
[19:01] <Riddell> manchicken: no I haven't, just patch it to enable libkgeothing
[19:20] <Riddell> Riddell: alias cmake..='cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_SYSCONFDIR=/etc -DKDE_INSTALL_USE_QT_SYS_PATHS=ON -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr ..'
[19:42] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: I'll do my best to attend at every event
[19:43] <ovidiu-florin> yes I'm in charge of the T-shirts
[19:43] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Cool, can I reserve one?
[19:43] <ovidiu-florin> there are 100
[19:44] <ovidiu-florin> I guess there's one for each
[19:44] <ovidiu-florin> ask Riddell
[20:47] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: are you around?
[20:54] <Riddell> hi ovidiu-florin 
[20:54] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: you got my spanish and uk phone number?
[21:00] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[21:00] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ^
[21:00] <ovidiu-florin> why?
[21:01] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I have Rick's T-shirt, any idea how I can get them to him?
[21:01] <ovidiu-florin> T-shirts (4 of them)
[21:03] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: give it to someone going back to the uk
[21:04] <Riddell> the bigger question is has his posters arrived, I suspect not :(
[21:04] <ovidiu-florin> can you ask Andreas?
[21:05] <Riddell> he had not got them this morning
[21:05] <ovidiu-florin> that doesn't sound good
[21:05] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: do we get Badges?
[21:06] <Riddell> I have some white stickers to write on
[21:06] <Riddell> not very professional looking
[21:08] <ovidiu-florin> that's not good
[21:08] <ovidiu-florin> we should have have some
[21:10] <ovidiu-florin> what about our business cards?
[21:10] <ovidiu-florin> each one prints his own?
[21:15] <Riddell> yeah