[00:27] <kimba1964> hello. Kimba in Northern california here
[00:27] <kimba1964> I want to ask if kubunto has the same dual-boot install support package that ubuntu does?
[00:37] <valorie> kimba1964: dual boot with windows, you mean?
[00:38] <valorie> our install screens look somewhat different, but we're all ubuntu underneath, no matter what desktop or applications you run
[00:38] <kimba1964> yes, dual-boot on a system which already has a Windows7 environment. I understand Ubuntu has a resize format function and works fairly well with most systems.
[00:39] <kimba1964> There is nothing vital on that pc, so its not really any risk.
[00:39] <valorie> yep, if there is windows on a laptop I always keep it for purposes of testing
[00:40] <valorie> since KDE applications usually run on windows
[00:40] <kimba1964> yeah, i need something with kde or gnome
[00:40] <valorie> in, I should say
[00:41] <valorie> IMO if you want gnome, then install gnomebuntu
[00:41] <kimba1964> (on my laptop, currently using pre-release of Windows10)
[00:41] <valorie> if you want kubuntu, install that
[00:41] <valorie> not install ubuntu + desktop, unless you do ubuntu-server + desktop
[00:42] <valorie> of course it is fine to do that if you want to run unity sometimes as well
[00:42] <valorie> just a lot of extra time uninstalling stuff if you don't
[00:43] <kimba1964> is the current native desktop kde?
[00:43] <valorie> kubuntu is KDE on ubuntu base, yes
[00:44] <valorie> Ubuntu's native desktop is now Unity, which started out based on Gnome
[00:44] <valorie> but it now it's own thing
[00:45] <valorie> its
[00:47] <kimba1964> and i guess Mint comes in many different flavors as well. Did my first couple linux boxes yesterday....my kids were running a movie on one monitor and playing a game on the second....in minutes. Only two gigs ram. wow.
[00:48] <kimba1964> running a movie using a live os....failed as expected, but it tried to do it.
[00:49] <kimba1964> so, the built in software library will vary depending on the distro, right? only shows likely compatible apps?
[00:51] <valorie> mint is a derivitive of ubuntu, yes, with some of the same flavors
[00:52] <valorie> all the apps are 'compatible'
[00:52] <valorie> but yes, each desktop comes with their own favored selection
[00:52] <valorie> in kubuntu we try to choose the "best" even if that isn't KDE's offering
[00:52] <valorie> such as firefox and libreoffice
[00:53] <valorie> oops, dinner time.... have fun installing, kimba1964
[00:53] <valorie> and it was nice meeting you
[00:53] <kimba1964> cool.. Thanks Valorie. Which do you prefer......gnome or kde?
[00:53] <kimba1964> k. thanks
[00:53] <valorie> KDE all the way
[00:54] <kimba1964> right on. have some great chow
[00:54] <valorie> gnome people are nice, but I do not like their design choices or apps
[00:54] <kimba1964> lol
[00:54] <valorie> it's just tools, though, not religion!
[00:54] <kimba1964> tools+toys
[00:59] <kimba1964> are there kubuntu disc label downloads on the site?
[01:06] <kimba1964> Thank You, forum for your assistance and advice. Have a good tomorrow!
[01:57] <valorie> hmmmm, disc labels is an interesting idea
[02:20] <kass> hi
[02:20] <valorie> hello kass, how can we help?
[02:22] <kass_> thank you valorie , just I am new here .
[02:22] <valorie> cool, welcome
[02:22] <valorie> hang out here and you'll learn all kinds of stuff
[02:22] <valorie> I still learn new things almost every day
[02:24] <kass_> good , I like that :)
[02:28] <kass_> ,yttt777
[05:06] <gioans> hello
[07:31] <soee> good morning
[08:35] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:40] <alvin> :-( calibre-bin : Depends: qtbase-abi-5-3-0 which is a virtual package.
[08:40] <alvin> I upgraded to plasma 5.2
[08:43] <valorie> alvin: I just did as well
[08:43] <valorie> please report that bug; or perhaps drop a note to Kubuntu-devel list
[08:44] <valorie> sounds like a packaging problem
[08:45] <alvin> I would, but it's a calibre version from my own PPA. Can someone test this with the usual Calibre version: sudo apt install -s calibre
[08:45] <alvin> If that command also complains about dependencies, the bug is valid
[08:46] <valorie> alvin: what is the -s for?
[08:46] <alvin> simulate
[08:46] <valorie> ah, ok
[08:46] <alvin> It doesn't actually install then.
[08:49] <valorie> alvin: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9932940/
[08:50] <valorie> silly me, I have calibre installed
[08:51] <valorie> if that makes any difference
[08:51] <alvin> valorie: At first sight, my bug is not valid and the cause is my own packaging. On the other hand, why would your apt tell you that 270 packages are not fully installed
[08:51] <alvin> Yes, you do. And that's good. I did, but the upgrade to plasma 5.2 removed it.
[08:51] <valorie> hmmm, I guess I should check
[08:52] <alvin> I'm going to find some documentation about downgrading a specific package. I don't want to remove it from my PPA. Other, KDE4 based machines can use that version just fine.
[08:53] <valorie> yes, there was a kwin problem earlier
[08:53] <valorie> I assume that is the bit that wasn't installed completely
[08:53] <valorie> everything seems to be working fine though
[08:56] <alvin> In cases like that, I try running apt install It often finds conflicts
[08:57] <alvin> In the meantime, I tried installing the older Calibre. That works, so I won't file a bug. It wouldn't be valid :-(
[08:57] <valorie> I tried installing it, but it was reported that it was already the latest version, then installed a bunch of other stuff!
[08:57] <valorie> but calibre core-dumped when I tried to start it up
[08:58] <alvin> Oh?
[08:58] <alvin> Well, it is Qt-based, and the Qt version has certainly changed.
[08:58] <valorie> I wish it was a KDE applicatin
[09:01] <alvin> Yes, that would be fine. I don't think the developer wants that though. Otherwise, he's very active. Every friday a new version. And it's a mighty fine piece of software.
[09:04] <alvin> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336089 is still valid. No font previews for me.
[09:05] <alvin> and Bluetooth doesn't work anymore.
[09:10] <valorie> hmmm, I don't know how to test that
[09:15] <alvin> I have a bluetooth headset. Now it's easy to test. When I start that new Bluedevil, it just says that no bluetooth adapter can be found.
[10:53] <Walex> alvin: that's usually a system issue, not a KDE issue. try using the 'hciconfig' and 'hcitool' commands to double check
[10:54] <alvin> Walex: Thanks. Well, those tools do find the bluetooth device.
[10:54] <alvin> Before the upgrade, bluetooth worked.
[10:55] <Walex> alvin:  if you know better...
[10:56] <alvin> I do. The adapter is visible, but not for the new bluedevil.
[11:23] <drawkward> how do i fix a broken system? i upgraded from kubuntu 14.04 to 14.10
[11:23] <drawkward> there is a red cross on the bottom right corner of the screen
[11:24] <drawkward> plus while booting up i get a broken pipe error
[11:24] <alvin> Is the upgrade complete?
[11:25] <drawkward> yes
[11:26] <drawkward> i cannot get qt creator to start on my system. when i try installing it from muon, it just says qt creator starting, but never starts.
[11:27] <alvin> drawkward: What happens when you start it from the command line?
[11:29] <drawkward> alvin: it shows that it is not installed. but muon  cant seem to install it
[11:31] <alvin> I never use Muon. I don't manage to get it to show all available packages. Well, it has been a long time ago. Does the output of sudo apt install look normal to you? (It shouldn't actually want to install anything)
[11:31] <alvin> Maybe apt will warn you of some missing or unconfigured packages
[12:05] <martasbncz> ..brej prej den :-)
[12:07] <martasbncz> +mluví tu někdo česky ?
[12:09] <hateball> !cz | martasbncz
[12:10] <martasbncz> ok ubottu
[12:14] <18VAB3OR1> ubottu dzenki :D ja nie wiem mamy jedzik slawic tutaj (i know polish isn't czech, but hey!) :D :D
[12:20] <soee> !pl | wook
[12:23] <drawkward> how do i install all dependencies for a package? my qtcreator seems broken
[12:24] <lordievader> drawkward: Apt should take care of that. Why do you think it is a depency problem?
[12:25] <drawkward> this is what i get when i type sudo apt-get install qtcreator
[12:25] <lordievader> !paste | drawkward
[12:25] <drawkward> qtcreator : Depends: qtbase-abi-5-3-0
[12:25] <drawkward>              Depends: qtdeclarative-abi-5-3-0
[12:25] <drawkward>              Recommends: qmlscene
[12:25] <drawkward>              Recommends: qtcreator-doc but it is not going to be installed
[12:25] <drawkward>              Recommends: qtcreator-plugin-cmake but it is not going to be installed
[12:25] <drawkward>              Recommends: qtcreator-plugin-remotelinux but it is not going to be installed
[12:25] <unopaste> drawkward you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[12:25] <alvin> Oh, look at that. drawkward, did you upgrade to plasma 5.2 using the next-backports PPA?
[12:26] <drawkward> oops sorry, will use the pastebin next time.
[12:26] <alvin> Not that it should be impossible. I have qtcreator installed and I'm using the backports.
[12:27] <drawkward> alvin: how do i resolve it?
[12:27] <alvin> I didn't. I have the same error as you have. The missing qtbase-abi. But it's on a custom build Calibre package.
[12:27] <lordievader> Recommends != depends, looks to me like everything is fine.
[12:28] <alvin> drawkward: Try fixing it by running apt update, apt full-upgrade and (careful here) apt install
[12:28] <lordievader> Unless I am missing things...
[12:28] <alvin> lordievader: Yes, it says 'depends' :-)
[12:28] <lordievader> alvin: Yes, but from what I see it doesn't mention that those packages cannot be installed.
[12:28] <alvin> He pastes this line: <drawkward> qtcreator : Depends: qtbase-abi-5-3-0
[12:29] <alvin> Ah, but that package is virtual. I tried to install it, but it wasn't available
[12:29] <drawkward> yes
[12:29] <drawkward> it is virtual
[12:29] <drawkward> what does virtual mean exactly?
[12:30] <alvin> As far as I know: that it points to another package, but is not really a package itself. It is used when names change, or for example default-jre, which will always point to a certain Java version.
[12:30] <drawkward> i see.
[12:30] <alvin> So, if you install default-jre, and the packagers decide that another Java should be default, you'll get the new one.
[12:31] <drawkward> so is there no way i can resolve this?
[12:31] <lordievader> drawkward: What do you get when you try to install the package?
[12:32] <drawkward> lordievader: which package are you talking about?
[12:32] <lordievader> drawkward: Err, lets start with the beginning as I get the feeling I'm missing something: sudo apt-get install qtcreator
[12:33] <drawkward> when i type sudo apt-get install qtcreator i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/9936181/
[12:34] <lordievader> drawkward: That is not the full output.
[12:34] <drawkward> it says E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. on the last line
[12:35] <lordievader> drawkward: Not in your paste, please post the full output.
[12:36] <drawkward> lordievader: check http://paste.ubuntu.com/9936185/
[12:37] <drawkward> lordievader: i also tried sudo aptitude install qtcreator
[12:37] <lordievader> drawkward: sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends qtcreator
[12:39] <drawkward> lordievader: i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/9936219/
[12:39] <lordievader> drawkward: Ok, what happens when you try to install qtbase-abi-5-3-0?
[12:40] <drawkward> lordievader: it says it is a virtual package
[12:40] <lordievader> drawkward: Can I see the full output?
[12:41] <drawkward> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9936274/
[12:42] <lordievader> drawkward: What is the output of 'apt-cache policy libqt5core5a'?
[12:43] <drawkward> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9936298/
[12:45] <lordievader> drawkward: Where is qtcreator coming from: apt-cache polict qtcreator?
[12:45] <lordievader> policy*
[12:46] <drawkward> lordievader: it comes from http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ utopic/universe amd64 Packages
[12:47] <drawkward> lordievader: to give you a background i am trying to get started developing on kstars. so i added a few PPAs, and git cloned the source. would the PPAs have caused this problem?
[12:48] <lordievader> As I figured, qtcreator wants qt 5.3, while you have the kubuntu-ci ppa enables supplying qt 5.4.
[12:48] <lordievader> ppa-purge the kubuntu-ci ppa and you should be fine.
[12:48] <r_rios> Hello. I updated to Plasma 5.2 yesterday and, for some reason, kded5 is using 100% of one cpu the whole time. How can I diagnose this?
[12:48] <drawkward> lordievader: how do i do that?
[12:49] <lordievader> drawkward: Scroll down to 'How to purge a PPA': http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/how-to-use-launchpad-ppa-add-remove.html
[12:55] <drawkward> lordievader: i did this sudo ppa-purge ppa:http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ci/unstable-daily/ubuntu/ utopic/main
[12:55] <drawkward> lordievader: am i correct?
[12:56] <lordievader> drawkward: No, that is not the ppa name.
[12:56] <drawkward> lordievader: what should i be writing there?
[12:56] <lordievader> drawkward: sudo ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ci/unstable-daily
[12:58] <drawkward> lordievader: thanks. its downloading new packages.
[12:58] <drawkward> lordievader: can you explain what this did exactly?
[12:59] <lordievader> drawkward: Remove/downgrade any of the packages from the ppa. And then remove the ppa itself.
[13:00] <drawkward> lordievader: did the unstable daily version cause the problem?
[13:00] <lordievader> Yes and no, if you would find a version of qtcreator compiled against libqt5core v5.4 you would have no problem.
[13:01] <drawkward> thanks for helping me out and explaining it to me! :)
[13:01] <alvin> So, all Qt packages should be added to the backports-next ppa?
[13:02] <lordievader> alvin: ?
[13:02] <lordievader> Besides it is kubuntu-ci ;)
[13:03] <alvin> Yes. I'm missing the same dependency for Calibre. But, ok. That's entirely my fault. I'll leave it alone and wait for a few months. I still keep my netbook on KDE4 and there are no troubles at all.
[13:03] <alvin> Besides, breeze is not fit for netbooks. Too much whitespace
[13:04] <lordievader> Kubuntu-ci covers the plasma desktop and its dependecies mostly.
[13:05] <soee> alvin: whitespace ?
[13:06] <alvin> Yes, take Quassel for example (IRC client). The list of channnels doesn't fit on my screen in plasma5, while it does on KDE4. And the resolution is larger on my Plasma5 machine.
[13:06] <soee> huh ?
[13:07] <soee> adjust dpi :)
[13:08] <alvin> Then the characters will be too small. It really is whitespace.  I can of course change the theme too.
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:10] <drawkward> lordievader: will i need to run apt-get update once this finishes?
[13:10] <lordievader> drawkward: Yes.
[13:11] <drawkward> lordievader: and then qtcreator should install right? 5.3.0?
[13:12] <lordievader> Supposedly, else feel free to ping me ;)
[13:12] <drawkward> thanks a lot!
[13:26] <Qwery> Hey guys I have bit of a problem. Black color appears as red on my screen. If I connect it to the TV via HDMI, it appears normal on the TV. I used to tilt the laptop screen to fix it but that doesn't work anymore. Is there a program or anything else that I can use which will make black appear as dark grey?
[13:47] <lordievader> Qwery: Sounds like a broken cable.
[13:55] <Qwery> Yes, I believe it is a hardware problem but the laptop is 5 years old which I use now and then so I don't want to pay to fix it. However, I was wondering if it could be fixed with a piece of software. It only happens to black colors and nothing else.
[14:38] <nine_9> hey guys, I'm using 14.04lts but I would like to update some specific packages to the latest ones available in the normal release, i have selected 'normal releases' on software sources but it didn't work...
[14:38] <nine_9> any ideas?
[14:39] <lordievader> nine_9: Add those releases to your sources and give it a low priority.
[14:40] <nine_9> lordievader: you mean, editing the 'sources' text file directly?
[14:40] <lordievader> nine_9: Actually put them in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[14:52] <designbybeck__> If I want to install KDE on my Ubuntu 14.04 setup, I see kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-full what is the difference
[14:53] <soee> !kubuntu-full
[14:53] <lordievader> designbybeck__: One is just the desktop, the other is the full KDE suite.
[14:54] <designbybeck__> hmmm is the suite not the desktop lordievader ?
[14:54] <lordievader> designbybeck__: It includes the desktop, but also a lot more.
[14:55] <dewar> hello. i have recoll installed, can anyone help me with memi types?
[14:55] <designbybeck__> as far as "a lot more" ...does that mean it will work as expected... or just that there are more productivity tools
[14:58] <lordievader> designbybeck__: http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/kubuntu-full vs http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/kubuntu-desktop
[14:58] <designbybeck__> ah, thank you lordievader
[15:04] <pdaga> How do i fix dependencies such as Depends: kdelibs-bin (= 4:4.14.1-0ubuntu1) but 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa1 is to be installed?
[16:00] <xmorph> hi, is kubuntu with plasma 5 stable enough for everyday use ?
[16:22] <F03SD> hiya gyus
[16:23] <BluesKaj> hey F03SD
[16:25] <F03SD> @BluesKaj do u know how to solvie X crash on newer video cards (Nvidia)
[16:26] <BluesKaj> which nvidia card, F03SD ?
[16:27] <F03SD> @BluesKaj GTX 970
[16:32] <BluesKaj> F03SD, @ isn't necessary on irc,  nvidia-331 driver ?
[16:33] <drawkward> can anyone help me out with https://paste.kde.org/pexd8pmae
[16:35] <lordievader> drawkward: Now you have the reverse of what you earlier had...
[16:36] <drawkward> lordievader: yes i rolled back to my previous install. those PPAs created a lot of troubles
[16:37] <drawkward> lordievader: how do i fix it?
[16:37] <F03SD> @BluesKaj well,ty. I solved problem with gdm e.g purge gdm and reinstal this
[16:37] <F03SD> txh
[16:38] <lordievader> drawkward: Where is kstars-bleeding coming from?
[16:38] <drawkward> lordievader: is there a way to check it?
[16:39] <lordievader> drawkward: apt-cache policy <package>
[16:39] <drawkward> lordievader: it comes from http://ppa.launchpad.net/mutlaqja/ppa/ubuntu/ utopic/main
[16:41] <drawkward> lordievader: i have done this sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mutlaqja/ppa
[16:41] <lordievader> Another ppa, how lovely..
[16:42] <lordievader> This is the reason I dislike ppa's so much.
[16:42] <drawkward> lordievader: without this PPA i cannot get started with KStars
[16:43] <drawkward> lordievader: i added the kubuntu-ci/unstable-daily PPA last time and it worked. but after that qtcreator stopped working. so i am a little worried about that
[16:44] <lordievader> drawkward: Find a kstars that is compiled against your version of libqt.
[16:44] <drawkward> lordievader: the developers in kstars want me to have the latest version to get started
[16:47] <lordievader> drawkward: Then make sure your other applications are compiled against the same version of the libqt5core.
[16:49] <graft> hey folks, i just installed 14.10 on a new laptop and have been having issues with Xorg locking up (mouse can move, but screen doesn't update) when I close/open the lid
[16:49] <graft> anyone had this experience?
[16:50] <drawkward> lordievader: thanks. i will make sure about that.
[16:51] <BluesKaj> graft, you've updated and upgraded since the install?
[16:55] <graft> BluesKaj: yeah, up-to-date
[16:56] <graft> running 3.16.0-29
[17:09] <BlaXpirit> Is there any LiveCD with Plasma 5.2?
[17:10] <BlaXpirit> sucks that Alpha 2 was released before Plasma 5.2, but I can still hope that maybe  5.2 was included with it anyway?
[17:14] <rberg_> I would start by looking at the daily vivid iso.. I dont know if 5.2 is there or not..
[17:18] <BlaXpirit> daily, huh
[17:18] <BlaXpirit> forgot about those
[17:19] <BlaXpirit> would appreciate if someone told be when Plasma 5.2 will be in Kubuntu daily
[17:23] <MoonUnit`> nice, window control disappeared in the latest kubuntu vivd updates, glad it only on a VM.
[17:24] <BlaXpirit> really want to try if my graphics card will withstand it
[17:24] <MoonUnit`> hmm "The shared library was not found" error.
[17:30] <BlaXpirit> I think it's safe to assume that tomorrow's daily will have plasma 5.2
[17:31] <BluesKaj> BlaXpirit, there's Kubuntu 15.04 with plasma 5.2 as default if you feel adventurous
[17:31] <BlaXpirit> BluesKaj, I want a LiveCD with 5.2 preinstalled
[17:31] <BlaXpirit> there is no such thing as Kubuntu 15.04,  just snapshots of it
[17:31] <BlaXpirit> and relevant snapshots is what i'm looking for
[17:33] <BluesKaj> BlaXpirit, if you call this a snapshot http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[17:33] <BlaXpirit> build, snapshot, whatever
[17:37]  * BluesKaj shrugs well, it runs fine on my laptop, after installing off a live dvd
[17:46] <BlaXpirit> BluesKaj, do you not understand what I want
[17:46] <BlaXpirit> I am not stating any problems
[17:46] <BlaXpirit> > I want a LiveCD with 5.2 preinstalled
[17:46] <rberg_> so try the latest nightly?
[17:48] <BluesKaj> yes, but it's not a big deal to upgrade to 5.2 , BlaXpirit if it's not on the live media, unless you're just testing then you'll just have to wait
[17:48] <BlaXpirit> BluesKaj, the whole point is I can't upgrade a LiveCD to 5.2
[17:49] <BlaXpirit> rberg_, [:18:32] <BlaXpirit> would appreciate if someone told be when Plasma 5.2 will be in Kubuntu daily
[17:49] <BluesKaj> yeah , like I said, you'll just have to wait
[17:50] <BlaXpirit> it is quite tedious to try a build/nightly/snapshot if I can't be sure 5.2 is in it yet
[17:51] <BluesKaj> I asked in #kubuntu-devel about 5.2 as default in 15.04...no reply yet.
[17:51] <BlaXpirit> i thought it was announced that Kubuntu 15.04 would use Plasma 5
[17:51] <BlaXpirit> just that Kubuntu Alpha 2 was released before Plasma 5.2
[17:52] <BlaXpirit> also, I looked at ubuntu vivid packages
[17:52] <BlaXpirit> and plasma is at 5.2 already
[17:54] <BluesKaj> apparently the 5.2 packages are in the proposed repos today
[17:56] <BlaXpirit> not clear to me what this means
[17:57] <BluesKaj> dunno how long it takes for the packages to arrive in the daily images, could be tomorrow even, BlaXpirit
[17:57] <BlaXpirit> could be
[17:58] <BluesKaj> BlaXpirit, now one of the devs says the packages might already be in the daily
[17:59] <BlaXpirit> OK, thank you
[17:59] <BlaXpirit> [:29:42] <BlaXpirit> I think it's safe to assume that tomorrow's daily will have plasma 5.2
[18:03] <BluesKaj> I'm sticking with 14.10 and plasma 4 on this desktop , since the desktop themes and colours are still pretty minimal and VDs aren't distiguishable by optional backgrounds etc. My laptop 15.04  install is strictly for testing
[18:21] <Seth-666> buna seara
[18:22] <Seth-666> e careva pe aici k as vrea sa pun cateva intrebari unui alt utilizator de ubuntu....
[18:29] <BluesKaj> !ro | Seth-666
[18:32] <Seth-666> si aici ce se discuta?
[18:33] <Seth-666> e irc de forum si se discuta de fashin tv
[18:33] <Seth-666> ?
[18:33] <Seth-666> *ubuntu
[18:33] <Seth-666> mai exact versionea KUBUNTU ~
[18:33] <Seth-666> k are KDE
[18:34] <Seth-666> despre asta vorbesc
[18:34] <BluesKaj> Seth-666, /j #ubuntu-ro
[18:34] <lordievader> Seth-666: Or speak English here.
[18:36] <lordievader> !pm | Seth-666
[18:36] <BluesKaj> guess he can't read romanian either
[18:47] <Seth-666> can anybody tell me ... i like the kubuntu ... but when i make a copy/shortcute on my desktop of a simple file office , after a restart it it give me a error
[18:48] <Seth-666> something like it dosen t have a path
[18:48] <Seth-666> the tiile is (plasma shell ...)
[18:53] <Seth-666> hello ?
[18:53] <Seth-666> a little help ?
[19:42] <vegaonee> Okay, I need some installation help. I get a kernel panic after the Who are you? window during the installation. The moment I click next.
[19:43] <vegaonee> Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt. Kernel offset... drm_kms_helper: panic occurred, switching back to text console.
[19:43] <vegaonee> I have tried both linux 3.13 and 3.16 afaik.
[19:44] <vegaonee> And I tried moving around the partions, to avoid broken sectors of the hdd, if there was any.
[19:46] <vegaonee> Can it be problems with the graphics card driver? Or what? I have no idea and can't get GNU/Linux on my computer. Stuck with Windows 8.1 for now.
[19:46] <vegaonee> Live session works by the way.
[19:47] <BluesKaj_> !uefi |vegaonee
[19:48] <vegaonee> I have been reading online, but can't figure it out.
[19:48] <vegaonee> I'm used to computers pre-UEFI
[19:50] <vegaonee> SecureBoot and FastBoot is disabled, so is FastStartup.
[19:50] <BluesKaj_> vegaonee, do you intend to keeps windows ?
[19:50] <vegaonee> And I'm using an USB stick for installation.
[19:50] <vegaonee> Yes, because of my studies.
[19:51] <BluesKaj_> ok try to install by setting the uefi to legacy mode if that's possible
[19:52] <vegaonee> I couldn't figure that out, but I will look around a bit more.
[19:53] <vegaonee> How do I know if it boots in UEFI mode?
[19:53] <vegaonee> I saw if it did on Linux Mint, but couldn't figure out how on Kubuntu. I got to Grub at least, and it said secure boot off before Grub showed up.
[19:54] <vegaonee> I have a EFI partition at the start of the disk. From Windows. Is that okay?
[19:54] <BluesKaj_> or vegaonee you have to enter the uefi/bios directly to change it legacy mode
[19:55] <BluesKaj_> to legacy
[19:55] <vegaonee> I hate this UEFI stuff. I guess less people are able to run anything else than Windows if it ships with the pc.
[19:56] <vegaonee> I will have a closer look at the BIOS settings. Gimme a few minutes.
[19:57] <jorge_> hello
[19:57] <vegaonee> So optimal settings is: SecureBoot: off. FastBoot: off?
[19:57] <BluesKaj_> have you tried prepartitioning some linux partitions like / and /home with gparted live cd?
[19:57] <vegaonee> Blueskaj_: Just using gparted and Kubuntu
[19:57] <vegaonee> I have tried different places on the disk.
[19:58] <vegaonee> home, root, boot and swap.
[19:58] <BluesKaj_> i mean creating them with gparted
[19:58] <vegaonee> Why? I created them with gparted in Kubuntu
[19:59] <vegaonee> In BIOS settings: Launch CSM?
[19:59] <BluesKaj_> really? I thought you were getting kernal panics
[19:59] <vegaonee> I am.
[19:59] <vegaonee> During installation.
[19:59] <vegaonee> Not during boot.
[20:01] <vegaonee> I just use live session for partitioning.
[20:02] <BluesKaj_> well I solved my uefi problem by wiping the drive clean, then creating an ntfs partitions sda then the ext4 partitions, then installing W7 and linux afterwards
[20:02] <vegaonee> Yeah, but I wanna keep Win8.1 as it is :/
[20:03] <vegaonee> But it is really tempting just wiping away everything and start blank.
[20:03] <vegaonee> What partition table did you use?
[20:04] <BluesKaj_> vegaonee, well it can be done , but each situation/machine has different problems with uefi
[20:04] <vegaonee> Yeah, such a blessing these days :)
[20:04] <vegaonee> I found some BIOS settings I will try now.
[20:05] <vegaonee> If I can choose to boot Kubuntu in EFI or UEFI, what to choose? For dual boot with Windows.
[20:06] <BluesKaj_> efi and uefi are the same thing afaik
[20:06] <vegaonee> Yeah, that is what I also thought. I just read that in a forum.
[20:07] <BluesKaj_> most likely uefi will be the only choice in the uefi/bios
[20:07] <BluesKaj_> or legacy if available
[20:08] <vegaonee> I had no choices when I booted now. So I just go with the flow. Will tell how well it goes.
[20:08] <vegaonee> I enabled "launch CSM" and "launch PXE OpROM".
[20:14] <vegaonee> Kernel panic again. It seems like I'm stuck with Windows. I have tried what I had in mind now...
[20:15] <BluesKaj_> don't launch pxe or csm, not needed
[20:15] <vegaonee> I have tried different BIOS settings, different distros, different partitioning solutions and different kernels.
[20:15] <vegaonee> I tried with it both enabled and disabled :/
[20:18] <BluesKaj_> vegaonee, have read this one? http://www.rodsbooks.com/linux-uefi/
[20:19] <vegaonee> What could possible help? Make an UEFI only USB for installation? Netinstall?
[20:20] <vegaonee> Good link BluesKaj_, thanks!
[20:20] <vegaonee> Tidy and easy to follow :)
[20:20] <BluesKaj_> vegaonee, and you might get better help in #ubuntu, since there are many more knowledgeable users there
[20:21] <BluesKaj_> #ubuntu is for all flavour so kubuntu is supported there as well
[20:21] <BluesKaj_> flavours
[20:22] <BluesKaj_> hope it helps you , vegaonee
[20:22] <vegaonee> Yeah, but I have gotten some help from you, so so far I am fine. Not tried all the options yet :)
[20:25] <vegaonee> Should I set the boot loader location to sda or to the efi partition location?
[20:26] <BluesKaj_> vegaonee, I'm not sure, like I said maybe #ubuntu is the place to ask that
[20:30] <victor_> Hello everyone
[20:30] <victor_> I'm new here
[20:31] <BluesKaj_> hi victor_
[20:39] <bprompt> victor_:  allo
[20:59] <vegaonee> BluesKaj_: Now it worked! I enabled Secure Boot and Fast Boot and disabled CSM.
[21:00] <vegaonee> BluesKaj_: Thanks for your link and your help! Much appriciated. Enjoy your night (or day)! :)
[21:14] <tyrog> Hi what is the current status of plasma 5?
[21:15] <soee> tyrog: Plasma 5.2 is available in Vivid images
[21:16] <tyrog> Will it be stable for daily use in 15.04? Stable compared to the current 4.x series
[21:17] <soee> tyrog: 4.x is more stable for sure and has more features atm.
[21:17] <tyrog> soee: And in April?
[21:17] <soee> though im using Vivid on my laptop and work PC now
[21:17] <soee> and it works pretty nice
[21:17] <tyrog> Regarding features, what kind of features is plasma 5 lacking at the moment?
[21:18] <BlaXpirit> icon-only task manager is a potato
[21:18] <BlaXpirit> that's a no-go for me
[21:18] <soee> tyrog: well hrd ot say, some plasmoids, no community themes, problems with activities etc. etc.
[21:19] <tyrog> BlaXpirit: You mean the bar down below is like windows 7?
[21:21] <soee> tyrog: small preview how it looks and work https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/gsuJuesbKgB
[21:24] <tyrog> It is really cool. But is the feature gap to 4.x as big as the one from 3.x to 4.x?
[21:26] <tyrog> soee: It is really cool. But is the feature gap to 4.x as big as the one from 3.x to 4.x?
[21:27] <soee> tyrog: its har to say, for me i have almost all i need as for web developer :) im missing only color picker widget
[21:27] <tyrog> do you have many crashes?
[21:29] <soee> tyrog: no
[21:29] <BlaXpirit> welp  alpha2 installation is failing on virtual machine
[21:31] <BlaXpirit> serves me right for choosing non-default language >_>
[22:36] <BlaXpirit> hmmm
[23:35] <blubberbop> I have a laptop with 2 hardddrives, and I left it on last night. This morning I let it suspend, and an hour later I opened it up to continue working but now the the secondary harddrive suddenly is in readonly.. I tried sudo mount /drive -oremount,rw, but mount tells me "mount: cannot remount /dev/mapper/data--vg-storage read-write, is write-protected"... Wut? How is this possible? And how can I fix this? I need to write on that drive, and though I could
[23:35] <blubberbop>  reboot.. I'd like to know why this is happening..