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cjwatsonblr: Best set the commit message before you lp-land next time, so that the log doesn't look like http://lpqateam.canonical.com/qa-reports/deployment-stable.html :-)08:07
cjwatsonblr: Yeah, still some way to go but feeling much better now, thanks08:08
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cjwatsonI'll fix buildbot after dinner18:12
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thomimorning19:23
cjwatsonthomi: Morning19:25
thomihey cjwatson, it must be late for you?19:25
cjwatsonYeah, wife and daughter out at karate, I was just settling down to some correspondence19:25
cjwatsonthomi: Are you able to handle your QA from http://lpqateam.canonical.com/qa-reports/deployment-stable.html ?  You might need https://wiki.canonical.com/InformationInfrastructure/OSA/LPHowTo/ConnectToStagingMailbox19:26
* thomi reads19:26
thomicjwatson: the staging mailbox is where the staging deployment sends mail to? That second link doesn't actually say what it's for :D19:28
cjwatsonRight, https://wiki.canonical.com/Launchpad/Instances mentions this19:28
cjwatsonunder "Outgoing mail" for qastaging/staging19:29
thomiahh, nice19:29
thomithanks19:29
thomiyes, I'll get on that now19:29
cjwatsonSo for QA for this kind of thing you'd typically perform some actions on qastaging.launchpad.net that ought to generate the right kinds of notifications, and then check the mailbox19:29
thomiyup19:30
cjwatsonI think I have the mailbox password lying around, unless it's been changed in the last couple of years19:30
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cjwatsonlet me know if you need it19:31
thomiok19:31
blrcjwatson: ack, thanks, for some reason thought it defaulted to the commit message from the bzr rev.19:33
cjwatsonAh, no, that would be too useful19:34
cjwatsonHappy buildbot again.  Excellent.19:35
thomicjwatson: I need that password....19:40
cjwatson/msged19:50
thomicjwatson: BTW, is there an email I can subscribe to to get alerted when http://lpqateam.canonical.com/qa-reports/deployment-stable.html is blocking on me?19:51
thomi...or is it just a case of "check this page every morning"?19:52
cjwatsonthomi: It'll only be doing that shortly after you've landed a change, which ought to be a thing you're aware of ...19:54
thomiheh, ok19:55
thomiI guess I'll be more aware when I'm actually doing lp dev full-time19:55
cjwatsonYeah, it becomes routine19:55
cjwatsonMost people need a reminder for their first few landings19:56
cjwatsonthomi: https://dev.launchpad.net/QA has a bunch of helpful stuff, aside from talking about the ec2 tool which nobody uses any more19:58
thomiheh, ok19:58
cjwatson(Also, we can afford to be a bit less formal about it with fewer people)19:59
thomiheh20:00
cjwatsonI don't seem to have completely exploded project -> project group linkage, anyway.20:02
thomiwell, synchronising all this mail will take a few hours on my crappy NZ internet connection :-/20:05
thomi(3571 of 176912)20:06
blrcjwatson: wgrant: thinking the turnip service ports should be exported to the host envvars, rather than hardcoded (case, nagios nrpe plugins)... is that sensible?20:07
blrwish the juju config supported a dict type :/20:09
cjwatsonblr: Which host, sorry?20:12
cjwatsonblr: We're going to have to hardcode at least some host/ports in lp-production-configs, although the turnip-internal ones probably don't matter for that.20:12
blrcjwatson: the host running turnip20:12
cjwatsonIt's been a while since I did any charming, but I would have expected configuration settings like this to be passed in using "juju set", and to have reasonable defaults in the charm20:13
blrspecifically for nrpe service checks20:13
cjwatsonAnd then bits of your environment should be able to pick them up from the juju config20:14
blrcjwatson: right, ports are currently a string in the juju environment, I would have to add a juju env var for each one given the lack of dicts, but I suppose that is okay20:14
cjwatsonYeah, don't see why not20:15
cjwatsonWe're talking about a fixed set20:15
blrcjwatson: the nrpe plugins run outside the juju environment however, so juju will have to make those available from the host environment - should be easy though.20:18
cjwatsonblr: I admit to not having a clue how subordinate charms work!20:22
cjwatsonBut https://wiki.canonical.com/InformationInfrastructure/IS/Policies/Prodstack#Nagios_Checks_for_your_Service seems to imply that the service-specific part goes in the primary charm20:23
blryep, that's the case for the turnip charm20:23

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