[05:09] <ToyKeeper> robru, or anyone currently around: Do you know why rtm image 222 was built?  Are there additional fixes in it for this week's milestone?
[05:09] <ToyKeeper> Perhaps just an automatic cron build?
[05:10] <robru> ToyKeeper: wasn't me. This is about the correct time for a cron build
[08:39] <jibel> sil2100, isn't cron disabled for rtm builds? there is a 222 but it looks identical to 221
[08:39] <sil2100> jibel: was there anything released during the night? Since 221 is the build with the revert, right?
[08:40] <jibel> sil2100, no, nothing else than the revert
[08:40] <sil2100> Let me make sure it's disabled
[08:46] <cjwatson> I've seen disagreement about whether cron should be disabled
[08:46] <cjwatson> It's enabled at the moment, except on weekends
[08:46] <cjwatson> 02 3 * * 1-5    DIST=ubuntu-rtm/14.09 for-project ubuntu-touch cron.daily-preinstalled --live
[08:46] <cjwatson> Want it disabled?
[08:49] <jibel> cjwatson, I think it's safer until RTM is released. sil2100 what do you think?
[08:56] <sil2100> cjwatson: if you could disable it for the time being it would be great
[08:56] <sil2100> At least we won't have any confusion as to which image to test
[08:56] <sil2100> (and waste resources)
[08:56] <sil2100> cjwatson: thanks :)
[08:56] <cjwatson> jibel,sil2100: done
[08:56] <jibel> cjwatson, thank you
[09:34] <popey> cihelp: weather appears to be failing to build... http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/weather-app-click/
[09:35] <vila> popey: /me looks
[09:35] <popey> thanks
[09:35] <vila> popey: since 	Dec 17, 2014 8:02:22 AM ?
[09:35] <popey> looks that way
[09:36] <vila> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ci-engineering-private/+junk/ubuntu-weather-app-private/".
[09:36] <popey> what the hell is that?
[09:36] <popey> :)
[09:36] <vila> popey: a fallout for removing some access rights to the jenkins bot ?
[09:36] <popey> oh, this is for the key i guess.
[09:36] <ogra_> popey, core apps translations bein broken (music in german), do i talk to dpm about that ?
[09:36] <popey> sounds plausible.
[09:37] <popey> ogra_: only music, only german, or more widespread?
[09:37] <ogra_> popey, only the "add to queue" button in german ...
[09:37] <ogra_> it translates to "zu warteschleife hinzufügen" .... that streches across the whole screen
[09:38] <popey> https://translations.launchpad.net/music-app/remix/+pots/music-app/de/+translate?show=untranslated
[09:38] <popey> ogra_: can you file a bug pls?
[09:38] <ogra_> will do
[09:38] <popey> thanks!
[09:38] <popey> vila: who can fix that?
[09:39] <popey> ogra_: does this (newer) revision fix it? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/remix/revision/818
[09:39] <popey> i see new .de translations in it
[09:39] <popey> msgstr "Zu Wiedergabeliste hinzufügen"
[09:39] <ogra_> right
[09:40] <ogra_> http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/music-bug.png
[09:40] <vila> popey: for now, fginther would be the most effective, I need to shadow him and document if this is not a one-off, filing a trello card to keep track
[09:40] <popey> vila: thank you!
[09:40] <popey> ouch ogra_
[09:40] <popey> ogra_: yeah, file a bug pls
[10:05] <sil2100> ogra_: btw. Yello! I know 2 songs of that band, probably the most known though - Oh Yeah is so surreal, heh
[10:07] <sil2100> I wonder if all their songs are like that
[10:09] <ogra_> heh, they are definitely all recognizeable by their sound
[10:10]  * ogra_ grew up with yello :)
[10:10] <dpm> ogra_, if you point me to the music app bug, then I'll assign it to German translators
[10:11] <ogra_> dpm, will do
[10:11] <dpm> great
[10:11] <ogra_> (havent filed it yet)
[10:49] <davmor2> ogra_: Oh Yeahhhhhhh!
[10:51] <davmor2> ogra_: the sound track of ferris bueler on his magic day off :)
[10:52] <ogra_> haha
[10:53] <davmor2> ogra_: that was my introduction to yello
[12:26] <ogra_> sil2100, do you mind if i trigger a vivid build ?
[12:28] <sil2100> ogra_: not at all, go ahead - what's up?
[12:28] <ogra_> see other channel
[12:31] <ogra_> thanks, kicked
[12:35] <imgbot> [13:05] <dbarth_> trainguards hi, can i get a vivid silo for line 61 ?
[13:12] <ogra_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:12] <ogra_>  libgcc1 : Depends: gcc-5-base (= 5-20150128-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[13:12] <ogra_> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[13:12] <ogra_> ok ... that vivid build wasnt happy at all
[13:16] <cjwatson> ogra_: Yeah, attempting to sort that out again
[13:16] <cjwatson> My previous override change apparently didn't take for some reason
[13:17] <ogra_> ah, i just noticed the component-mistmatches mail
[13:17] <cjwatson> Oh, archive-reports probably isn't happy because EVERYTHING was uninstallable so it tried to run chdist apt-get install on everything individually to find out why
[13:18] <cjwatson> Let me force things so that I get updated repors
[13:18] <cjwatson> *reports
[13:18] <pmcgowan> sil2100, is 223 building yet?
[13:18] <cjwatson> Not that this is supposed to be my problem now :P
[13:18] <cjwatson> pmcgowan: See the conversation right now
[13:19] <ogra_> well, 223 is RTM
[13:19] <ogra_> shouldnt be affected by this
[13:19] <cjwatson> Oh, sorry
[13:19] <ogra_> but i dont think anyone asked for 223 yet
[13:19] <pmcgowan> maybe no new tarball yet, just coming online
[13:20] <ogra_> ah, thats only device tarball ?
[13:20] <pmcgowan> custom to fix the factory id
[13:21] <ogra_> ah
[14:08] <sil2100> pmcgowan: not yet
[14:08] <sil2100> I think it might take a while
[14:08] <sil2100> pmcgowan: that's why Alex mentioned we're not suposed to stop testing the current onw
[14:08] <sil2100> *one
[14:09] <pmcgowan> sil2100, yep, talked with john as well
[14:40] <boiko> sil2100: regarding silo 15 packaging changes, I just noticed I didn't rebuild dialer-app with aacid's last changes (removing the packaging changes)
[14:40] <boiko> sil2100: let me rebuild dialer on that one
[14:40] <sil2100> boiko: ah, ok, so I'll wait with the review then
[14:40] <sil2100> Thanks for noticing
[14:48] <dbarth_> hey trainguards, can i get a vivid silo for line 61 ?
[14:48] <sil2100> dbarth_: on it!
[14:48] <dbarth_> ty
[14:48] <tedg> trainguards, can I please get a vivid silo for line 65?
[14:49] <sil2100> tedg: sure ;)
[14:49] <sil2100> dbarth_: ok, so the line wasn't set as ready for a silo - it is now I assume?
[14:49] <sil2100> dbarth_: vivid I suppose?
[14:50] <tedg> sil2100, Thanks!
[14:50] <sil2100> ugh, lines are archiving now, might take a few moments before I assign a silo
[14:50] <tedg> I was going to try and learn "Thank you" in Polish, but I don't think I can type this.
[14:51] <tedg> sil2100, dziękuję
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[14:54] <sil2100> Oh! Didn't know that non-PL locale can actually type 'ę', good to know :)
[14:54] <sil2100> tedg: proszę bardzo
[14:54] <sil2100> It's like "you're welcome"
[14:57] <dbarth_> sil2100: yep
[14:57] <dbarth_> sorry, my bad, i was checking if another branch could make it in the silo, and i left the other flags unchecked
[14:57] <sil2100> Damn, the archiving takes ages, come ooon
[14:58] <sil2100> I can't do anything while this is running
[15:36] <john-mcaleely> http://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/ubuntu-rtm-14.09/device_krillin-20150129-c75dcfb.changes
[15:36] <john-mcaleely> http://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/ubuntu-rtm-14.09/device_krillin-20150129-c75dcfb.tar.xz
[15:36] <john-mcaleely> http://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/ubuntu-rtm-14.09/device_krillin-testresults-20150129-c75dcfb.ods
[15:37] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, ^ as discussed in email, new rtm tarball for 223
[15:37] <sil2100> john-mcaleely: ok, so after this one we'll need the custom upload as well, right?
[15:37] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, order is not critical
[15:37] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, and yes, a custom is also needed
[15:38] <john-mcaleely> (also in email to qa-team)
[15:41] <cjwatson> ogra_: gcc-5-base etc. should be happier now BTW
[15:42] <ogra_> cjwatson, thanks a lot
[16:20] <robru> sil2100: what do you think about the ci-train cutover plan for tomorrow? is that a decent time as far as last-second rtm deadlines are concerned?
[16:20] <sil2100> robru: ah, forgot to reply to that one
[16:21] <sil2100> robru: personally I think that would be fine, but I agree with slangasek that it might be a bit late for informing people (even though there are no real consequences)
[16:21] <sil2100> And, it's Friday ;)
[16:21] <robru> sil2100: yeah, I personally think the short notice is ok because it should be such a minor interruption. ;-)
[16:22] <robru> and I sooooo want to just be done with this
[16:22] <robru> sil2100: ok I'm going to announce it right now ;-)
[16:25] <sil2100> robru: ok, if you feel strongly about it then go ahead, just make sure to inform everyone that we will still have the old instance as a failsafe in case an urgent landing is needed
[16:25] <robru> sil2100: ok
[16:25] <sil2100> But so far it seems we should have a promotion today, so no stress
[16:29] <robru> sil2100: great
[16:38] <ogra_> robru, CI train going down ? so there is a tunnel ahead, right ?
[16:38] <ogra_> :)
[16:38] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, have you had a mail from cwayne about custom tarballs?
[16:39] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, I believe the tarball does now exist
[16:39] <sil2100> john-mcaleely: hm, I don't see anything in my inbox
[16:39] <sil2100> jibel, davmor2: did you guys get any e-mail from cwayne about a custom tarball?
[16:39] <robru> ogra_: heh
[16:39] <jibel> sil2100, I didn't receive anything
[16:40] <davmor2> sil2100: no we got an email from john-mcaleely for a device tarball
[16:41] <john-mcaleely> ok, maybe he's doing his own QA
[16:41] <john-mcaleely> (I can see the tarball in the -propsoed-ustomised channel
[16:41] <sil2100> john-mcaleely: isn't it evening at his TZ already?
[16:42] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, ~midnight his TZ
[16:44] <davmor2> john-mcaleely: what will the custom tarball do that wasn't in the device tarball out of interest
[16:45] <john-mcaleely> davmor2, there are two places that string must appear: android properties, and mmi dial codes
[16:45] <john-mcaleely> davmor2, because of history, those are hard coded separately in the device tarball and custom tarball
[16:45] <davmor2> john-mcaleely: right so yours does the android portion and cwaynes will do the mmi code right?
[16:45] <john-mcaleely> davmor2, exactly
[16:46] <davmor2> john-mcaleely: just wanted to make sure we were all on the same page :)
[16:46] <john-mcaleely> davmor2, cool!
[16:50] <davmor2> jibel, john-mcaleely, sil2100: device tarball seems good do we want to land bot together?
[16:51] <sil2100> john-mcaleely: what would happen if we just land the device tarball?
[16:53] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, nothing bad, but I would not want to promote with only one
[16:53] <john-mcaleely> sor for -proposed, landing separately is fine
[16:54] <john-mcaleely> so for, not 'sor for'
[16:54] <sil2100> john-mcaleely: ok, then I guess you can push the device tarball now since davmor2 gives a +1
[16:54] <john-mcaleely> ack
[16:54] <sil2100> We'll anyway promote #221 if anything ;)
[16:54] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, indeed
[16:55] <ogra_> sil2100, btw, should we perhaps switch off cron for rtm ?
[16:55] <davmor2> sil2100: I hope you mean 222
[16:55] <sil2100> ogra_: it's switched off
[16:55] <ogra_> i guess we dont need automated builds atm
[16:55] <sil2100> davmor2: #222 is the same as #221
[16:55] <ogra_> oh
[16:55] <ogra_> great then :)
[16:55] <sil2100> ogra_: cjwatson disabled it for us in the morning ;)
[16:55] <ogra_> ah, when i was still fighting with my DSL i guess :)
[16:55] <davmor2> sil2100:  I know but that was what the last of the tests was on :)
[16:55] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, device tarball pushed
[16:55] <davmor2> so just custom to go
[16:56] <pmcgowan> john-mcaleely, any way to diff the tarballs to show exact changeset?
[16:57] <john-mcaleely> pmcgowan, for custom? Not that I'm aware of
[16:57] <sil2100> john-mcaleely: thanks \o/
[16:57] <davmor2> pmcgowan: http://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/ubuntu-rtm-14.09/device_krillin-20150129-c75dcfb.changes
[16:57] <john-mcaleely> pmcgowan, for device, the gerrit keeps me honest
[16:58] <davmor2> pmcgowan: chris normally email the changes
[16:58] <pmcgowan> davmor2, sure but thats manual, wondered if we could easily see which files changed just to double confirm
[16:59] <john-mcaleely> davmor2, for the custom, it has to decompose into things with manifests and versions
[16:59] <john-mcaleely> sorry, pmcgowan ^
[16:59] <john-mcaleely> for device, it's just a bunch of binaries
[17:03] <sil2100> robru: meetong
[17:04] <ogra_> sil2100, he is in the tunnel ...
[17:04] <ogra_> (CI train going down etc etc)
[17:09] <pmcgowan> john-mcaleely, whats the eta for the custom?
[17:10] <john-mcaleely> pmcgowan, gone vague. tarball is here, but cwane is now asleep
[17:10] <ogra_> how dare he
[17:10] <john-mcaleely> pmcgowan, I think the great-firewall ate his announcement
[17:10] <pmcgowan> john-mcaleely, so we have it then?
[17:11] <john-mcaleely> pmcgowan, we do. 14.09-proposed-customizsed #303
[17:11] <pmcgowan> john-mcaleely, so when do we kick off 223?
[17:11] <john-mcaleely> pmcgowan, need to kick that around with sil2100 & co
[17:11] <robru> cjwatson: where was the documentation for generating rtm cowbuilder images?
[17:23] <bfiller> fginther: can you help getting AP tests run for all MR's against lp:ubuntu-keyboard? Currently CI does not run autopilot and we've added them all now
[17:23] <john-mcaleely> pmcgowan, so 223 exists, and is just the device tarball extra
[17:24] <john-mcaleely> pmcgowan, I think the plan is for davmor2 to +1 the custom tarball, and let cwayne know that via email or postal mail across the great firewall
[17:24] <john-mcaleely> pmcgowan, then cwayne will push the custom (~8hrs from now)
[17:24] <john-mcaleely> pmcgowan, and then we will have 224, ready for some QA love and a second (hopefully) promotion
[17:24] <pmcgowan> john-mcaleely, why does cwayne need to be involved? confused if we have the tarball now
[17:25] <john-mcaleely> pmcgowan, he does the copy from one channel to another
[17:25] <pmcgowan> and no one else can do that?
[17:25] <john-mcaleely> pmcgowan, apparently not
[17:25] <pmcgowan> thats a problem
[17:26] <cjwatson> robru: I don't know, sorry
[17:26] <john-mcaleely> pmcgowan, agreed. in a few hours he gets on a plane for 14hrs
[17:27] <pmcgowan> john-mcaleely, this does not sound like a good plan anymore, surely someone must be able to complete this?
[17:27] <sil2100> robru: we had a jenkins job for that
[17:27] <john-mcaleely> pmcgowan, agreed
[17:27] <john-mcaleely> pmcgowan, it's the place we're in
[17:28] <robru> sil2100: right, I'm looking at it now, but I don't know what options to pass it to get rtm images out of it. I only ever used it for ubuntu images.
[17:28] <pmcgowan> seems our foundations guys must be able to assist
[17:28] <john-mcaleely> maybe so. it's all a case of waht machine login where
[17:28] <robru> cjwatson: what's the archive url for rtm?
[17:30] <sil2100> pmcgowan: anyway, in the current state and plan we should be anyway ok, as the official 'second' promotion can wait till tomorrow
[17:30] <fginther> bfiller, Sure, I'll get your request added and try to find someone to work on it
[17:30] <cjwatson> robru: http://derived.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu-rtm/
[17:30] <pmcgowan> sil2100, I am concerned cwayne will wake up and go to the airport, but hard to know
[17:30] <robru> cjwatson: thanks
[17:31] <bfiller> fginther: great, thanks
[17:31] <sil2100> pmcgowan: we will promote #222 today (without the ID bits), john-mcaleely will give CKT a test image with the custom bits so they can do their testing today still and promoting officially tomorrow
[17:31] <robru> cjwatson: is that documented anywhere?
[17:31] <sil2100> pmcgowan: yeah, we'll have to make sure he gets the message
[17:31] <pmcgowan> sil2100, provided someone lands the custom tarball, I do not understand how that works and why no one else cna do it
[17:31] <sil2100> pmcgowan: but I'm sure he's aware that he needs to do the copy himself
[17:31] <pmcgowan> sil2100, but why does he?
[17:32] <pmcgowan> sil2100, surely someone on foundations or landing team can do this?
[17:32] <sil2100> pmcgowan: that was the current process, we surely need this changed but no one else has the right permissions right now
[17:33] <sil2100> I don't know the details though as I anyway didn't have much permissions in the image world, only now I'm getting nusakan access
[17:35] <imgbot> [17:35] <imgbot> [17:39] <cjwatson> robru: I don't think it's anywhere really central, but it's in a few places like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/CrossCompile
[17:39] <cjwatson> sil2100: this can't be a nusakan thing - cwayne doesn't have nusakan access
[17:40] <cjwatson> if he's copying things it must be between the URLs that system-image fetches from
[17:41] <cjwatson> somewhere under http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/cambridge/ perhaps?
[17:42] <cjwatson> The Gated jobs there seem to fetch files from the non-Gated ones, and be started by hand by cwayne, if that's any help
[17:43] <cjwatson> It might be as simple as running those jobs
[17:43] <cjwatson> ?
[17:45] <robru> cjwatson: is "create a utopic chroot and then hack it to point at rtm" really the best way to create an rtm chroot?
[17:47] <cjwatson> robru: the cleanest way is to do something like the hack in livecd-rootfs/live-build/auto/config to get debootstrap to use the proper script for it, but we never got round to cleaning that up and making it a bit easier to do
[17:47] <cjwatson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9940647/
[17:48] <cjwatson> (obviously that's in live-build speak rather than something you'd want to do by hand, but it's mangleable ...)
[17:49] <robru> cjwatson: yeah we also have some kind of weird hack for improvising a debootstrap script when there isn't one, but it doesn't seem to work for RTM.
[17:49] <robru> cjwatson: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/cupstream2distro/view/head:/chroot-tools/create-chroot
[17:49] <cjwatson> the hack above does work for RTM, since it's used in all your image builds
[17:49] <cjwatson> robru: I think that just needs to link in devices.tar.gz and functions too
[17:50] <robru> cjwatson: hmmmm
[17:50] <cjwatson> oh, except you cp -a to start with
[17:50] <robru> cjwatson: yeah, so we would already have that stuff
[17:51] <cjwatson> maybe DIST is ubuntu-rtm/14.09 rather than 14.09?  in that case you'd need to strip the distribution
[17:51] <cjwatson> that's the only thing I can see that could be wrong there
[17:52] <Laney> I used stgraber's Launchpad chroot scripts to get one when I needed to do it a few weeks back
[18:02] <robru> Laney: where can I find those?
[18:03] <robru> cjwatson: yeah I find this really confusing. the existing pbuilder chroots we have in the train are '14.09-amd64', not sure what you're saying about DIST. I set $DIST as 14.09 to run the script
[18:03] <robru> cjwatson: if I just symlink 14.09->gutsy is that expected to work? because I'm getting "Release signed by unknown key" even though I imported the key...
[18:07] <cjwatson> robru: Oh, yeah, it has a different signing key.  debootstrap probably needs to be invoked with a suitable --keyring
[18:08] <cjwatson> The Launchpad chroots are linked from e.g. https://api.launchpad.net/devel/ubuntu-rtm/14.09/amd64
[18:08] <cjwatson> Or "manage-chroot" from lp:ubuntu-archive-tools
[18:08] <robru> cjwatson: https://pastebin.canonical.com/124563/ I don't understand why debootstrap doesn't like the key.
[18:08] <cjwatson> IIRC stgraber's scripts are in the "sbuild-launchpad-chroot" package
[18:08] <cjwatson> robru: Dinnertime, sorry
[18:09] <cjwatson> robru: debootstrap doesn't use the apt keyring from the host system though.  You have to pass it the --keyring option
[18:09] <cjwatson> Or at least it doesn't use apt-key's keyring
[18:09] <cjwatson> The default is /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg
[18:10] <cjwatson> So apt-key is totally irrelevant
[18:10] <robru> cjwatson: ok thanks
[18:39] <bzoltan_> robru:  if you have a sec  would you please publish the silo17?
[18:40] <robru> bzoltan_: hm, needs a core dev ack
[18:40] <robru> mterry: kenvandine: anybody around for a core dev ack? https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-017-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu_3.1.1+15.04.20150128.2-0ubuntu1.diff
[18:41] <bzoltan_> robru:  Yes, I know... dholbach was the sponsor of this change, but he is off now
[18:42] <robru> bzoltan_: oh did he approve the diff already?
[18:42] <bzoltan_> robru:  not this one
[18:42] <robru> ah ok
[18:42] <fginther> popey, http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/weather-app-click/ is building again
[18:42] <mterry> robru, that all->any change looks odd, let me sanity check it
[18:42] <popey> thanks fginther
[18:42] <bzoltan_> robru:  he was helping with the seeds change this one needed
[18:43] <bzoltan_> mterry:  the story there is that it needs to install to the right path the files
[18:43] <mterry> bzoltan_, ah yes, it installs into /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu for example
[18:43] <bzoltan_> mterry:  and with all it installs to that path even on i386... what is wronmg
[18:44] <mterry> robru, sure, looks fine then
[18:44] <robru> mterry: thanks!
[18:44] <bzoltan_> mterry:  thank you a lot.... this is anyway only for Vivid :) as the real release of the SDK is when I backport to LTS and Utopic
[18:44] <mterry> :)
[18:53] <robru> cjwatson: hm, it seems I got rtm image creation to work finally https://wiki.canonical.com/UbuntuEngineering/CI/Playbook/StagingTrain#Creating_RTM_Cowbuilder_in_New_Instance
[18:54] <cjwatson> that seems an unwise way to do it.  it will be overwritten by ubuntu-keyring upgrades.
[18:54] <cjwatson> robru: you should be arranging to pass --keyring to debootstrap.
[18:54] <cjwatson> it has a perfectly good command-line option for this - no need to edit files in /usr
[18:54] <sil2100> jibel: thanks for the report!
[18:54] <sil2100> pmcgowan, ogra_: it seems we have green light for promotion
[18:54] <robru> cjwatson: well it's only needing a one-off solution. if ubuntu-keyring blows away the key we can just import it again later. this is a "once per cycle" sort of command, not used daily.
[18:55] <robru> cjwatson: it has a perfectly good commandline argument that I have no control over because I'm not calling it directly. some other tool is wrapping it away from me
[18:55] <sil2100> ogra_: could you push the promotion buttons on #222 krillin and its mako and emulator equivalents?
[18:55] <pmcgowan> sil2100, jibel fantastic
[18:56] <jibel> ogra_, krillin 222, mako 185, x86 179
[18:56] <ogra_> thanks, gimme a minute when i'm not distracted by other channels :)
[19:19] <cjwatson> robru: *shrug* ok, just a code review comment effectively
[19:21] <cjwatson> robru: you do have control over it though, surely, create-chroot is already passing --debootstrapopts, would just need another instance of that option
[19:21] <cjwatson> that causes cowbuilder to pass it through
[19:23] <robru> cjwatson: ah, hmm
[19:24] <cjwatson> anyway whatever, my main concern is people cloning-and-hacking the stuff from the playbook to places that aren't quite so one-off
[19:27] <ogra_> [19:27] <ogra_> (that is: krillin 222, mako 185, emulators 179)
[19:37] <ogra_> sil2100, jibel ^^ in case you missed it, promotion done
[19:39] <john-mcaleely> \o/
[19:40] <sil2100> \o/
[19:41] <jibel> *\o/*
[19:41] <ogra_> what about es ?
[19:41] <sil2100> ogra_: from what I heard we don't have es anymore, everything is in the main channel
[19:41] <ogra_> awesome
[19:41] <ogra_> thats really good news
[19:47] <sil2100> john-mcaleely: aaaand we have a +1 on the custom tarball o/
[19:47] <sil2100> jibel, davmor2: thanks guys!
[19:48] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, so, if cwayne is a creature of habit, he wakes in 1hr 10 mins time
[19:48] <sil2100> huh
[19:48] <sil2100> ;)
[19:48] <john-mcaleely> yes, thanks guys!
[19:48] <john-mcaleely> ogra_, yes, es is history
[19:49] <john-mcaleely> (for now)
[19:49] <ogra_> \o/
[19:49]  * ogra_ waits for -cn then 
[19:49] <davmor2> ogra_: the ES scopes and click are back in the default image again
[19:49] <ogra_> cwayne, !
[19:50] <cwayne> ogra_, ruh roh, what went wrong?
[19:50] <ogra_> you were gone
[19:50] <ogra_> we were missing  you !
[19:50] <john-mcaleely> cwayne, {big hugs}
[19:51] <cwayne> sil2100, davmor2 so I'm good to push it seems?
[19:51] <sil2100> cwayne: woohooo! Hey! ;)
[19:51] <cwayne> heyo
[19:51] <sil2100> cwayne: if we tested the right thing then you're ok to push it!
[19:52] <davmor2> cwayne: you awesome dude you!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJDGcxAf9D8
[19:52] <davmor2> sil2100: I got the instruction from john-mcaleely
[19:53] <cwayne> sil2100, is there a question whether or not you tested the right thing?
[19:53] <davmor2> pmcgowan: ^ see that's how you pick appropriate music for the situation ;)
[19:53] <john-mcaleely> cwayne, there is not
[19:53] <davmor2> cwayne: no but I needed to know what to test :)
[19:53] <cwayne> well okay then :D
[19:53] <john-mcaleely> cwayne, he tested what you telegramed me :-)_
[19:53] <sil2100> cwayne: davmor2 tested what was ready in the channel, so I suppose that was that ;D
[19:54] <sil2100> cwayne: push teh buttonz!
[19:54] <davmor2> cwayne: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9942086/
[19:54] <cwayne> davmor2, sorry, I tried to send out an email, I thought it went through but it turns out it didn't :/
[19:54] <cwayne> china network is worst network.
[19:54] <davmor2> and now they block cwayne completely for talking out of line :)
[19:54] <john-mcaleely> lol
[19:55] <john-mcaleely> this channel is marked ground
[19:55] <cwayne> the button has been pushed
[19:55] <john-mcaleely> \o/
[19:55] <cwayne> so now if i get taken care of by the chinese govt, my final task has been completed :D
[19:56] <john-mcaleely> lol
[19:56] <john-mcaleely> thanks cwayne
[19:56] <davmor2> cwayne, sil2100, ogra_, john-mcaleely, jibel, jfunk, pmcgowan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWLIgjB9gGw
[19:56] <john-mcaleely> davmor2, lol
[19:58] <pmcgowan> davmor2, wow I already have that queued up!
[19:58] <pmcgowan> lol
[19:59] <sil2100> Oh my
[19:59] <davmor2> sil2100: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-GLuydiMe4
[20:03] <pmcgowan> davmor2, that was my second choice to I'm so glad but I like Cream
[20:03] <sil2100> ogra_: mako and emulator promoted image numbers are one number behind, right? So they're #14?
[20:03] <ogra_> only emulators i think
[20:03] <ogra_> mako should be 15
[20:04] <sil2100> Ah, ok :)
[20:07] <davmor2> pmcgowan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04854XqcfCY
[20:08] <pmcgowan> davmor2, now you're scaring me
[20:11] <sil2100> john-mcaleely: do you think we should promote #224 today still or wait until tomorrow?
[20:11] <davmor2> pmcgowan: what?? Moi ?? I'm celebrating round one long way to go till we get to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92cwKCU8Z5c
[20:11] <sil2100> What are the requirements?
[20:14] <pmcgowan> awesome
[20:15] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, I'd wait
[20:15] <sil2100> Ok, then at least we can have some sanity testing done on the image tomorrow then
[20:15] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, we'll send 224 to the OEM to pre-check all those strings. lets get a +1 from them before promotion
[20:16] <davmor2> john-mcaleely: +1
[20:16] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, some sanity tomorrow sounds good
[20:16] <john-mcaleely> testing even!
[20:17] <ogra_> hmm, weather is still 100km off for me :(
[20:17] <john-mcaleely> is it better weather?
[20:17] <ogra_> i thought that was supposed to be fixed for final
[20:17] <ogra_> no, usually worse
[20:17] <ogra_> :)
[20:18] <john-mcaleely> it's a feature then. not a bug
[20:22] <ogra_> heh
[20:22] <pmcgowan> ogra_, thats the scope thats off?
[20:22] <pmcgowan> thats why I use the app and enter my location
[20:22] <ogra_> pmcgowan, if i tap on the start page on the weather it gets me to the weather channel scope
[20:22] <davmor2> ogra_: refresh it
[20:23] <ogra_> and thats usually some IP handover point ~60-100km away (depends which one)
[20:23] <ogra_> seemingly it uses geoip data
[20:23] <ogra_> davmor2, i just rebooted after upgrade ... do i still need to refresh ?
[20:24] <davmor2> pmcgowan: it isn't, it is the ISP location normally mine is preston on wifi and the City of Westminister on cellular
[20:24] <pmcgowan> davmor2, what isn't?
[20:25] <ogra_> pmcgowan, but i want to see the right info on my start page :)
[20:25] <pmcgowan> ogra_, agreed
[20:25] <davmor2> pmcgowan: I get the same thing if I hit the add my location in the weather app rather than hit add a city,  Once you refresh it does an agps scan and then gets it right in hte scope
[20:25] <ogra_> i dont use the weather app (i wouldnt use the weather scope either if it wasnt in there)
[20:26] <pmcgowan> its showing me a city I dont even know where it is
[20:26] <ogra_> haha
[20:26] <ogra_> thats where here maps come in handy :)
[20:26] <ogra_> its like an adventure game ... discover your phone
[20:27] <davmor2> pmcgowan: I think the scope and weather app both do a geolcue look up initial when the app/system starts
[20:27] <davmor2> when you refresh it is a gps location look up
[20:28] <ogra_> not here
[20:28] <ogra_> https://www.google.de/maps/dir/Kassel/Bad+Arolsen/@51.3480364,9.0908877,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x47bb3f4e9f7a6c1d:0x2f84633d58221747!2m2!1d9.4797461!2d51.3127114!1m5!1m1!1s0x47bb0b17f3f2b82b:0x422435029b0b100!2m2!1d9.0125506!2d51.3798641?hl=de
[20:28] <ogra_> i live in kassel ...
[20:29] <ogra_> (it actually picked a close one this time)
[20:29] <davmor2> ogra_: it does for me, try opening here first maybe it has to have gps triggered first
[20:29] <pmcgowan> davmor2, not working
[20:30] <pmcgowan> 90 mi away
[20:30] <ogra_> nope, didnt change
[20:32] <davmor2> ogra_: maybe you need to leave your bunker ;)
[20:32] <ogra_> its cold and wet outside ... :P
[20:32] <ogra_> and dark !
[20:32] <john-mcaleely> there, or 100klicks away?
[20:33] <john-mcaleely> :-P
[20:33] <ogra_> the dark i can see ...
[20:33] <ogra_> the cold and wet i'm informed about by catmail ... their fur is wet and cold if they come in
[20:34] <john-mcaleely> lol
[20:35] <davmor2> right I'm off but I'll leave you with htis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=998P6HEzCdI
[20:35]  * ogra_ finds it funny hos the title says "(HQ)"
[20:36] <ogra_> digitized 4:3 VHS video ... in "H" "Q"
[20:36] <ogra_> s/hos/how/