=== chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [05:09] robru, or anyone currently around: Do you know why rtm image 222 was built? Are there additional fixes in it for this week's milestone? [05:09] Perhaps just an automatic cron build? [05:10] ToyKeeper: wasn't me. This is about the correct time for a cron build === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [08:39] sil2100, isn't cron disabled for rtm builds? there is a 222 but it looks identical to 221 [08:39] jibel: was there anything released during the night? Since 221 is the build with the revert, right? [08:40] sil2100, no, nothing else than the revert [08:40] Let me make sure it's disabled [08:46] I've seen disagreement about whether cron should be disabled [08:46] It's enabled at the moment, except on weekends [08:46] 02 3 * * 1-5 DIST=ubuntu-rtm/14.09 for-project ubuntu-touch cron.daily-preinstalled --live [08:46] Want it disabled? [08:49] cjwatson, I think it's safer until RTM is released. sil2100 what do you think? [08:56] cjwatson: if you could disable it for the time being it would be great [08:56] At least we won't have any confusion as to which image to test [08:56] (and waste resources) [08:56] cjwatson: thanks :) [08:56] jibel,sil2100: done [08:56] cjwatson, thank you === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [09:34] cihelp: weather appears to be failing to build... http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/weather-app-click/ [09:35] popey: /me looks [09:35] thanks [09:35] popey: since Dec 17, 2014 8:02:22 AM ? [09:35] looks that way [09:36] bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ci-engineering-private/+junk/ubuntu-weather-app-private/". [09:36] what the hell is that? [09:36] :) [09:36] popey: a fallout for removing some access rights to the jenkins bot ? [09:36] oh, this is for the key i guess. [09:36] popey, core apps translations bein broken (music in german), do i talk to dpm about that ? [09:36] sounds plausible. [09:37] ogra_: only music, only german, or more widespread? [09:37] popey, only the "add to queue" button in german ... [09:37] it translates to "zu warteschleife hinzufügen" .... that streches across the whole screen [09:38] https://translations.launchpad.net/music-app/remix/+pots/music-app/de/+translate?show=untranslated [09:38] ogra_: can you file a bug pls? [09:38] will do [09:38] thanks! [09:38] vila: who can fix that? === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [09:39] ogra_: does this (newer) revision fix it? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/remix/revision/818 [09:39] i see new .de translations in it [09:39] msgstr "Zu Wiedergabeliste hinzufügen" [09:39] right [09:40] http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/music-bug.png [09:40] popey: for now, fginther would be the most effective, I need to shadow him and document if this is not a one-off, filing a trello card to keep track [09:40] vila: thank you! [09:40] ouch ogra_ [09:40] ogra_: yeah, file a bug pls === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [10:05] ogra_: btw. Yello! I know 2 songs of that band, probably the most known though - Oh Yeah is so surreal, heh [10:07] I wonder if all their songs are like that [10:09] heh, they are definitely all recognizeable by their sound [10:10] * ogra_ grew up with yello :) [10:10] ogra_, if you point me to the music app bug, then I'll assign it to German translators [10:11] dpm, will do [10:11] great [10:11] (havent filed it yet) [10:49] ogra_: Oh Yeahhhhhhh! [10:51] ogra_: the sound track of ferris bueler on his magic day off :) [10:52] haha [10:53] ogra_: that was my introduction to yello === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [12:26] sil2100, do you mind if i trigger a vivid build ? === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:28] ogra_: not at all, go ahead - what's up? [12:28] see other channel [12:31] thanks, kicked [12:35] === IMAGE 83 building (started: 20150129-12:35) === [13:05] trainguards hi, can i get a vivid silo for line 61 ? [13:12] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [13:12] libgcc1 : Depends: gcc-5-base (= 5-20150128-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed [13:12] E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). [13:12] ok ... that vivid build wasnt happy at all [13:16] ogra_: Yeah, attempting to sort that out again [13:16] My previous override change apparently didn't take for some reason [13:17] ah, i just noticed the component-mistmatches mail [13:17] Oh, archive-reports probably isn't happy because EVERYTHING was uninstallable so it tried to run chdist apt-get install on everything individually to find out why [13:18] Let me force things so that I get updated repors [13:18] *reports [13:18] sil2100, is 223 building yet? [13:18] Not that this is supposed to be my problem now :P [13:18] pmcgowan: See the conversation right now [13:19] well, 223 is RTM [13:19] shouldnt be affected by this [13:19] Oh, sorry [13:19] but i dont think anyone asked for 223 yet [13:19] maybe no new tarball yet, just coming online [13:20] ah, thats only device tarball ? [13:20] custom to fix the factory id [13:21] ah === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:08] pmcgowan: not yet [14:08] I think it might take a while [14:08] pmcgowan: that's why Alex mentioned we're not suposed to stop testing the current onw [14:08] *one [14:09] sil2100, yep, talked with john as well === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [14:40] sil2100: regarding silo 15 packaging changes, I just noticed I didn't rebuild dialer-app with aacid's last changes (removing the packaging changes) [14:40] sil2100: let me rebuild dialer on that one [14:40] boiko: ah, ok, so I'll wait with the review then [14:40] Thanks for noticing [14:48] hey trainguards, can i get a vivid silo for line 61 ? [14:48] dbarth_: on it! [14:48] ty [14:48] trainguards, can I please get a vivid silo for line 65? [14:49] tedg: sure ;) [14:49] dbarth_: ok, so the line wasn't set as ready for a silo - it is now I assume? [14:49] dbarth_: vivid I suppose? [14:50] sil2100, Thanks! [14:50] ugh, lines are archiving now, might take a few moments before I assign a silo [14:50] I was going to try and learn "Thank you" in Polish, but I don't think I can type this. [14:51] sil2100, dziękuję [14:51] e , [14:54] Oh! Didn't know that non-PL locale can actually type 'ę', good to know :) [14:54] tedg: proszę bardzo [14:54] It's like "you're welcome" [14:57] sil2100: yep [14:57] sorry, my bad, i was checking if another branch could make it in the silo, and i left the other flags unchecked [14:57] Damn, the archiving takes ages, come ooon [14:58] I can't do anything while this is running [15:36] http://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/ubuntu-rtm-14.09/device_krillin-20150129-c75dcfb.changes [15:36] http://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/ubuntu-rtm-14.09/device_krillin-20150129-c75dcfb.tar.xz [15:36] http://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/ubuntu-rtm-14.09/device_krillin-testresults-20150129-c75dcfb.ods [15:37] sil2100, ^ as discussed in email, new rtm tarball for 223 [15:37] john-mcaleely: ok, so after this one we'll need the custom upload as well, right? [15:37] sil2100, order is not critical [15:37] sil2100, and yes, a custom is also needed [15:38] (also in email to qa-team) [15:41] ogra_: gcc-5-base etc. should be happier now BTW [15:42] cjwatson, thanks a lot === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [16:20] sil2100: what do you think about the ci-train cutover plan for tomorrow? is that a decent time as far as last-second rtm deadlines are concerned? [16:20] robru: ah, forgot to reply to that one [16:21] robru: personally I think that would be fine, but I agree with slangasek that it might be a bit late for informing people (even though there are no real consequences) [16:21] And, it's Friday ;) [16:21] sil2100: yeah, I personally think the short notice is ok because it should be such a minor interruption. ;-) [16:22] and I sooooo want to just be done with this [16:22] sil2100: ok I'm going to announce it right now ;-) [16:25] robru: ok, if you feel strongly about it then go ahead, just make sure to inform everyone that we will still have the old instance as a failsafe in case an urgent landing is needed [16:25] sil2100: ok [16:25] But so far it seems we should have a promotion today, so no stress [16:29] sil2100: great === robru changed the topic of #ubuntu-ci-eng to: Need a silo or CI Train support? ping trainguards | Need help with something else? ping cihelp | Train Dashboard: http://bit.ly/1mDv1FS | QA Signoffs: http://bit.ly/1qMAKYd | Known Issues: Ubuntu-RTM landing gates closed - only approved silos allowed to land. Train will be taken offline for maintenance at 20:00UTC Friday. [16:38] robru, CI train going down ? so there is a tunnel ahead, right ? [16:38] :) [16:38] sil2100, have you had a mail from cwayne about custom tarballs? [16:39] sil2100, I believe the tarball does now exist [16:39] john-mcaleely: hm, I don't see anything in my inbox [16:39] jibel, davmor2: did you guys get any e-mail from cwayne about a custom tarball? [16:39] ogra_: heh [16:39] sil2100, I didn't receive anything [16:40] sil2100: no we got an email from john-mcaleely for a device tarball [16:41] ok, maybe he's doing his own QA [16:41] (I can see the tarball in the -propsoed-ustomised channel [16:41] john-mcaleely: isn't it evening at his TZ already? [16:42] sil2100, ~midnight his TZ [16:44] john-mcaleely: what will the custom tarball do that wasn't in the device tarball out of interest [16:45] davmor2, there are two places that string must appear: android properties, and mmi dial codes [16:45] davmor2, because of history, those are hard coded separately in the device tarball and custom tarball [16:45] john-mcaleely: right so yours does the android portion and cwaynes will do the mmi code right? [16:45] davmor2, exactly [16:46] john-mcaleely: just wanted to make sure we were all on the same page :) [16:46] davmor2, cool! [16:50] jibel, john-mcaleely, sil2100: device tarball seems good do we want to land bot together? [16:51] john-mcaleely: what would happen if we just land the device tarball? [16:53] sil2100, nothing bad, but I would not want to promote with only one [16:53] sor for -proposed, landing separately is fine [16:54] so for, not 'sor for' [16:54] john-mcaleely: ok, then I guess you can push the device tarball now since davmor2 gives a +1 [16:54] ack [16:54] We'll anyway promote #221 if anything ;) [16:54] sil2100, indeed [16:55] sil2100, btw, should we perhaps switch off cron for rtm ? [16:55] sil2100: I hope you mean 222 [16:55] ogra_: it's switched off [16:55] i guess we dont need automated builds atm [16:55] davmor2: #222 is the same as #221 [16:55] oh [16:55] great then :) [16:55] ogra_: cjwatson disabled it for us in the morning ;) [16:55] ah, when i was still fighting with my DSL i guess :) [16:55] sil2100: I know but that was what the last of the tests was on :) [16:55] sil2100, device tarball pushed [16:55] so just custom to go [16:56] john-mcaleely, any way to diff the tarballs to show exact changeset? [16:57] pmcgowan, for custom? Not that I'm aware of [16:57] john-mcaleely: thanks \o/ [16:57] pmcgowan: http://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/ubuntu-rtm-14.09/device_krillin-20150129-c75dcfb.changes [16:57] pmcgowan, for device, the gerrit keeps me honest [16:58] pmcgowan: chris normally email the changes [16:58] davmor2, sure but thats manual, wondered if we could easily see which files changed just to double confirm [16:59] davmor2, for the custom, it has to decompose into things with manifests and versions [16:59] sorry, pmcgowan ^ [16:59] for device, it's just a bunch of binaries [17:03] robru: meetong [17:04] sil2100, he is in the tunnel ... [17:04] (CI train going down etc etc) [17:09] john-mcaleely, whats the eta for the custom? [17:10] pmcgowan, gone vague. tarball is here, but cwane is now asleep [17:10] how dare he [17:10] pmcgowan, I think the great-firewall ate his announcement [17:10] john-mcaleely, so we have it then? [17:11] pmcgowan, we do. 14.09-proposed-customizsed #303 [17:11] john-mcaleely, so when do we kick off 223? [17:11] pmcgowan, need to kick that around with sil2100 & co [17:11] cjwatson: where was the documentation for generating rtm cowbuilder images? [17:23] fginther: can you help getting AP tests run for all MR's against lp:ubuntu-keyboard? Currently CI does not run autopilot and we've added them all now [17:23] pmcgowan, so 223 exists, and is just the device tarball extra [17:24] pmcgowan, I think the plan is for davmor2 to +1 the custom tarball, and let cwayne know that via email or postal mail across the great firewall [17:24] pmcgowan, then cwayne will push the custom (~8hrs from now) [17:24] pmcgowan, and then we will have 224, ready for some QA love and a second (hopefully) promotion [17:24] john-mcaleely, why does cwayne need to be involved? confused if we have the tarball now [17:25] pmcgowan, he does the copy from one channel to another [17:25] and no one else can do that? [17:25] pmcgowan, apparently not [17:25] thats a problem [17:26] robru: I don't know, sorry [17:26] pmcgowan, agreed. in a few hours he gets on a plane for 14hrs [17:27] john-mcaleely, this does not sound like a good plan anymore, surely someone must be able to complete this? [17:27] robru: we had a jenkins job for that [17:27] pmcgowan, agreed [17:27] pmcgowan, it's the place we're in [17:28] sil2100: right, I'm looking at it now, but I don't know what options to pass it to get rtm images out of it. I only ever used it for ubuntu images. [17:28] seems our foundations guys must be able to assist [17:28] maybe so. it's all a case of waht machine login where [17:28] cjwatson: what's the archive url for rtm? [17:30] pmcgowan: anyway, in the current state and plan we should be anyway ok, as the official 'second' promotion can wait till tomorrow [17:30] bfiller, Sure, I'll get your request added and try to find someone to work on it [17:30] robru: http://derived.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu-rtm/ [17:30] sil2100, I am concerned cwayne will wake up and go to the airport, but hard to know [17:30] cjwatson: thanks [17:31] fginther: great, thanks [17:31] pmcgowan: we will promote #222 today (without the ID bits), john-mcaleely will give CKT a test image with the custom bits so they can do their testing today still and promoting officially tomorrow [17:31] cjwatson: is that documented anywhere? [17:31] pmcgowan: yeah, we'll have to make sure he gets the message [17:31] sil2100, provided someone lands the custom tarball, I do not understand how that works and why no one else cna do it [17:31] pmcgowan: but I'm sure he's aware that he needs to do the copy himself [17:31] sil2100, but why does he? [17:32] sil2100, surely someone on foundations or landing team can do this? [17:32] pmcgowan: that was the current process, we surely need this changed but no one else has the right permissions right now [17:33] I don't know the details though as I anyway didn't have much permissions in the image world, only now I'm getting nusakan access [17:35] === IMAGE 83 DONE (finished: 20150129-17:35) === [17:35] === changelog: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/83.changes === [17:39] robru: I don't think it's anywhere really central, but it's in a few places like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/CrossCompile [17:39] sil2100: this can't be a nusakan thing - cwayne doesn't have nusakan access [17:40] if he's copying things it must be between the URLs that system-image fetches from [17:41] somewhere under http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/cambridge/ perhaps? [17:42] The Gated jobs there seem to fetch files from the non-Gated ones, and be started by hand by cwayne, if that's any help [17:43] It might be as simple as running those jobs [17:43] ? [17:45] cjwatson: is "create a utopic chroot and then hack it to point at rtm" really the best way to create an rtm chroot? [17:47] robru: the cleanest way is to do something like the hack in livecd-rootfs/live-build/auto/config to get debootstrap to use the proper script for it, but we never got round to cleaning that up and making it a bit easier to do [17:47] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9940647/ [17:48] (obviously that's in live-build speak rather than something you'd want to do by hand, but it's mangleable ...) [17:49] cjwatson: yeah we also have some kind of weird hack for improvising a debootstrap script when there isn't one, but it doesn't seem to work for RTM. [17:49] cjwatson: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/cupstream2distro/view/head:/chroot-tools/create-chroot [17:49] the hack above does work for RTM, since it's used in all your image builds [17:49] robru: I think that just needs to link in devices.tar.gz and functions too [17:50] cjwatson: hmmmm [17:50] oh, except you cp -a to start with [17:50] cjwatson: yeah, so we would already have that stuff [17:51] maybe DIST is ubuntu-rtm/14.09 rather than 14.09? in that case you'd need to strip the distribution [17:51] that's the only thing I can see that could be wrong there [17:52] I used stgraber's Launchpad chroot scripts to get one when I needed to do it a few weeks back [18:02] Laney: where can I find those? [18:03] cjwatson: yeah I find this really confusing. the existing pbuilder chroots we have in the train are '14.09-amd64', not sure what you're saying about DIST. I set $DIST as 14.09 to run the script [18:03] cjwatson: if I just symlink 14.09->gutsy is that expected to work? because I'm getting "Release signed by unknown key" even though I imported the key... === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:07] robru: Oh, yeah, it has a different signing key. debootstrap probably needs to be invoked with a suitable --keyring [18:08] The Launchpad chroots are linked from e.g. https://api.launchpad.net/devel/ubuntu-rtm/14.09/amd64 [18:08] Or "manage-chroot" from lp:ubuntu-archive-tools [18:08] cjwatson: https://pastebin.canonical.com/124563/ I don't understand why debootstrap doesn't like the key. [18:08] IIRC stgraber's scripts are in the "sbuild-launchpad-chroot" package [18:08] robru: Dinnertime, sorry [18:09] robru: debootstrap doesn't use the apt keyring from the host system though. You have to pass it the --keyring option [18:09] Or at least it doesn't use apt-key's keyring [18:09] The default is /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg [18:10] So apt-key is totally irrelevant [18:10] cjwatson: ok thanks [18:39] robru: if you have a sec would you please publish the silo17? [18:40] bzoltan_: hm, needs a core dev ack [18:40] mterry: kenvandine: anybody around for a core dev ack? https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-017-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu_3.1.1+15.04.20150128.2-0ubuntu1.diff [18:41] robru: Yes, I know... dholbach was the sponsor of this change, but he is off now [18:42] bzoltan_: oh did he approve the diff already? [18:42] robru: not this one [18:42] ah ok [18:42] popey, http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/weather-app-click/ is building again [18:42] robru, that all->any change looks odd, let me sanity check it [18:42] thanks fginther [18:42] robru: he was helping with the seeds change this one needed [18:43] mterry: the story there is that it needs to install to the right path the files [18:43] bzoltan_, ah yes, it installs into /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu for example [18:43] mterry: and with all it installs to that path even on i386... what is wronmg [18:44] robru, sure, looks fine then [18:44] mterry: thanks! [18:44] mterry: thank you a lot.... this is anyway only for Vivid :) as the real release of the SDK is when I backport to LTS and Utopic [18:44] :) [18:53] cjwatson: hm, it seems I got rtm image creation to work finally https://wiki.canonical.com/UbuntuEngineering/CI/Playbook/StagingTrain#Creating_RTM_Cowbuilder_in_New_Instance [18:54] that seems an unwise way to do it. it will be overwritten by ubuntu-keyring upgrades. [18:54] robru: you should be arranging to pass --keyring to debootstrap. [18:54] it has a perfectly good command-line option for this - no need to edit files in /usr [18:54] jibel: thanks for the report! [18:54] pmcgowan, ogra_: it seems we have green light for promotion [18:54] cjwatson: well it's only needing a one-off solution. if ubuntu-keyring blows away the key we can just import it again later. this is a "once per cycle" sort of command, not used daily. [18:55] cjwatson: it has a perfectly good commandline argument that I have no control over because I'm not calling it directly. some other tool is wrapping it away from me [18:55] ogra_: could you push the promotion buttons on #222 krillin and its mako and emulator equivalents? [18:55] sil2100, jibel fantastic [18:56] ogra_, krillin 222, mako 185, x86 179 [18:56] thanks, gimme a minute when i'm not distracted by other channels :) [19:19] robru: *shrug* ok, just a code review comment effectively [19:21] robru: you do have control over it though, surely, create-chroot is already passing --debootstrapopts, would just need another instance of that option [19:21] that causes cowbuilder to pass it through [19:23] cjwatson: ah, hmm [19:24] anyway whatever, my main concern is people cloning-and-hacking the stuff from the playbook to places that aren't quite so one-off [19:27] === IMAGE RTM #15 Promoted !! === [19:27] (that is: krillin 222, mako 185, emulators 179) === blr_ is now known as blr [19:37] sil2100, jibel ^^ in case you missed it, promotion done [19:39] \o/ [19:40] \o/ [19:41] *\o/* [19:41] what about es ? [19:41] ogra_: from what I heard we don't have es anymore, everything is in the main channel [19:41] awesome [19:41] thats really good news [19:47] john-mcaleely: aaaand we have a +1 on the custom tarball o/ [19:47] jibel, davmor2: thanks guys! [19:48] sil2100, so, if cwayne is a creature of habit, he wakes in 1hr 10 mins time [19:48] huh [19:48] ;) [19:48] yes, thanks guys! [19:48] ogra_, yes, es is history [19:49] (for now) [19:49] \o/ [19:49] * ogra_ waits for -cn then [19:49] ogra_: the ES scopes and click are back in the default image again [19:49] cwayne, ! [19:50] ogra_, ruh roh, what went wrong? [19:50] you were gone [19:50] we were missing you ! [19:50] cwayne, {big hugs} [19:51] sil2100, davmor2 so I'm good to push it seems? [19:51] cwayne: woohooo! Hey! ;) [19:51] heyo [19:51] cwayne: if we tested the right thing then you're ok to push it! [19:52] cwayne: you awesome dude you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJDGcxAf9D8 [19:52] sil2100: I got the instruction from john-mcaleely [19:53] sil2100, is there a question whether or not you tested the right thing? [19:53] pmcgowan: ^ see that's how you pick appropriate music for the situation ;) [19:53] cwayne, there is not [19:53] cwayne: no but I needed to know what to test :) [19:53] well okay then :D [19:53] cwayne, he tested what you telegramed me :-)_ [19:53] cwayne: davmor2 tested what was ready in the channel, so I suppose that was that ;D [19:54] cwayne: push teh buttonz! [19:54] cwayne: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9942086/ [19:54] davmor2, sorry, I tried to send out an email, I thought it went through but it turns out it didn't :/ [19:54] china network is worst network. [19:54] and now they block cwayne completely for talking out of line :) [19:54] lol [19:55] this channel is marked ground [19:55] the button has been pushed [19:55] \o/ [19:55] so now if i get taken care of by the chinese govt, my final task has been completed :D [19:56] lol [19:56] thanks cwayne [19:56] cwayne, sil2100, ogra_, john-mcaleely, jibel, jfunk, pmcgowan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWLIgjB9gGw [19:56] davmor2, lol [19:58] davmor2, wow I already have that queued up! [19:58] lol [19:59] Oh my [19:59] sil2100: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-GLuydiMe4 [20:03] davmor2, that was my second choice to I'm so glad but I like Cream [20:03] ogra_: mako and emulator promoted image numbers are one number behind, right? So they're #14? [20:03] only emulators i think [20:03] mako should be 15 [20:04] Ah, ok :) [20:07] pmcgowan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04854XqcfCY [20:08] davmor2, now you're scaring me [20:11] john-mcaleely: do you think we should promote #224 today still or wait until tomorrow? [20:11] pmcgowan: what?? Moi ?? I'm celebrating round one long way to go till we get to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92cwKCU8Z5c [20:11] What are the requirements? [20:14] awesome [20:15] sil2100, I'd wait [20:15] Ok, then at least we can have some sanity testing done on the image tomorrow then [20:15] sil2100, we'll send 224 to the OEM to pre-check all those strings. lets get a +1 from them before promotion [20:16] john-mcaleely: +1 [20:16] sil2100, some sanity tomorrow sounds good [20:16] testing even! [20:17] hmm, weather is still 100km off for me :( [20:17] is it better weather? [20:17] i thought that was supposed to be fixed for final [20:17] no, usually worse [20:17] :) [20:18] it's a feature then. not a bug [20:22] heh [20:22] ogra_, thats the scope thats off? [20:22] thats why I use the app and enter my location [20:22] pmcgowan, if i tap on the start page on the weather it gets me to the weather channel scope [20:22] ogra_: refresh it [20:23] and thats usually some IP handover point ~60-100km away (depends which one) [20:23] seemingly it uses geoip data [20:23] davmor2, i just rebooted after upgrade ... do i still need to refresh ? [20:24] pmcgowan: it isn't, it is the ISP location normally mine is preston on wifi and the City of Westminister on cellular [20:24] davmor2, what isn't? [20:25] pmcgowan, but i want to see the right info on my start page :) [20:25] ogra_, agreed [20:25] pmcgowan: I get the same thing if I hit the add my location in the weather app rather than hit add a city, Once you refresh it does an agps scan and then gets it right in hte scope [20:25] i dont use the weather app (i wouldnt use the weather scope either if it wasnt in there) [20:26] its showing me a city I dont even know where it is [20:26] haha [20:26]