[07:49] <dholbach> good morning
[15:58] <jcastro> mhall119, why are you even using chromium? use chrome
[15:58] <jcastro> the chromium in ubuntu is always behind, so it's always going to be buggy
[15:58] <jcastro> it's like, _4_ major releases behind in trusty, for example.
[16:09] <mhall119> jcastro: wow, didn't realize that
[16:10] <mhall119> I use chromium because I prefer open source whenever possible
[16:10] <jcastro> yeah
[16:10] <jcastro> but google doesn't care about chromium as a product
[16:10] <jcastro> it just happens to be there
[16:10] <jcastro> they don't test chromium, they test chrome on 14.04.
[16:10] <jcastro> so they don't do things like care about packaging, etc, so it's up to us to do it
[16:10] <jcastro> and there's no way people can keep up
[16:10] <popey> chrome also sucks
[16:11] <popey> chrome causes hard lockups and reboots on my laptop
[16:11] <popey> all browsers suck
[16:11] <popey> [FACT]
[16:11] <jcastro> I don't have crashing issues with either FF or chrome
[16:12] <jcastro> hangouts make the CPU max out, but it does that on my chromebook and my windows machine too, so we're not any worse than that.
[16:13] <popey> hangout plugin continues to run after a hangout ends here
[16:13] <popey> on firefox
[16:14] <mhall119> jcastro: yeah, I've noticed a slow decline in chromium's quality
[16:18] <jcastro> at first it's like, ok I get it, you don't care about my desktop
[16:18] <balloons> dholbach, do python packages often eschew having a -docs package, and instead bundle docs with the binary package?
[16:18] <jcastro> then it's also that way on a chromebook
[16:18] <jcastro> so at least we have platform parity, heh.
[16:19] <balloons> dholbach, what's best practice? Having a -docs package separate or no?
[16:22] <popey> looks like the only way to make chrome stable is to --disable-gpu
[16:28] <dholbach> balloons, you can do it, you can not do it
[16:28] <dholbach> balloons, it depends on how you like things or if the docs package is going to be huge
[16:28] <dholbach> etc
[16:28] <dholbach> "what is going to make sense to the user?" might be a good question to ask or "are the docs required by anything else?"
[16:29] <dholbach> all right... I've got to run a bit earlier today - have to pick up a friend and go for a vegan pizza :)
[16:29] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow!