| catbus1 | Does anyone know when 14.04.2 will be released? | 01:11 | 
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| Sarvatt | catbus1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DraftReleaseSchedule feb 5th | 01:13 | 
| Sarvatt | which is actually cutting it pretty close because the lts backport X stack *just* got in :D | 01:14 | 
| catbus1 | Sarvatt: thank you. | 01:15 | 
| ari-tczew | cyphermox: around? | 01:45 | 
| cyphermox | ari-tczew: yes | 02:03 | 
| ari-tczew | cyphermox: hi. I saw the stuff is moved to -release. do you still need a help? | 02:03 | 
| cyphermox | no, that's covered I guess | 02:04 | 
| cyphermox | unless you want to merge the other vpn plugins, I'm not sure when I'll get around to those | 02:04 | 
| ari-tczew | cyphermox: I can take those. The question is, should do I just merge from Debian, or additionally upgrade to new upstream release? | 02:05 | 
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| cyphermox | I think they're already at their newest release, but that's up to you | 02:06 | 
| cyphermox | I would merge + update if it's worth updating | 02:06 | 
| cyphermox | Logan_: hey, btw n-m-iodine migrated to -release if you didn't notice yet :) | 02:08 | 
| Logan_ | I saw :) | 02:08 | 
| cyphermox | great. | 02:09 | 
| cyphermox | I'm not sure if iodine is the plugin I never ever managed to make work properly ;) | 02:10 | 
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| pitti | Good morning | 06:50 | 
| Unit193 | Howdy. | 06:53 | 
| dholbach | good morning | 07:49 | 
| LocutusOfBorg1 | hi dear developerz | 08:16 | 
| LocutusOfBorg1 | does anybody know which kernel will land on vivid? | 08:16 | 
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| alkisg | mvo, stgraber: hi, could I ping you about LP #1415785 ? update-manager blacklists ltsp, and removes it on dist-upgrades (normal upgrades, not release upgrades), and that breaks ltsp installations. I'd like to help in fixing + SRU'ing this for 14.04 and 12.04... | 08:53 | 
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1415785 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Please remove all ltsp* blacklisting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1415785 | 08:53 | 
| mvo | alkisg: thanks, if you could prepare a diff and the sru test instruction I'm happy to sponsor it for you | 08:54 | 
| alkisg | Thank you mvo, will do | 08:55 | 
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| infinity | mlankhorst: Does libevdev need a utopic->trusty backport too, or will my copying the trust/universe version to trusty-updates/main be enough to make xserver-xorg-input-evdev and xserver-xorg-input-synaptics happy? | 09:16 | 
| mlankhorst | infinity: I didn't update it at least | 09:21 | 
| mlankhorst | and works locally | 09:21 | 
| infinity | mlankhorst: Alright. We'll see how that goes, then. I think those are the only two not built now. | 09:22 | 
| mlankhorst | ah k | 09:22 | 
| Odd_Bloke | I'm hitting "libgcc1 : Depends: gcc-5-base (= 5-20150128-0ubuntu1) but it is not installable" when building arm64/ppc64el images; is this (likely to be) a transient problem, or should I report a bug? | 09:27 | 
| mlankhorst | do you have -proposed enabled? | 09:30 | 
| Odd_Bloke | mlankhorst: Shouldn't do; Ctrl-F of the build log (https://launchpadlibrarian.net/196091740/buildlog_ubuntu_vivid_arm64_cpc_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz) suggests proposed isn't mentioned anywhere. | 09:31 | 
| Odd_Bloke | It is in http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/vivid/main/binary-ppc64el/Packages.bz2. | 09:33 | 
| cjwatson | Odd_Bloke: It's a component mismatch. Fixing. | 09:34 | 
| mlankhorst | ah | 09:35 | 
| cjwatson | Odd_Bloke: Retry your build once "rmadison gcc-5-base" says "vivid" rather than "vivid/universe" (give it maybe half an hour or so) | 09:36 | 
| Odd_Bloke | cjwatson: Thanks, will do. | 09:36 | 
| Odd_Bloke | For my understanding, does this mean that someone uploaded gcc-5-base in to universe when it should have been uploaded to main? | 09:38 | 
| cjwatson | Odd_Bloke: Components are overridden centrally, not in general up to the uploader. New packages tend to land in universe. | 09:38 | 
| cjwatson | So if they're dependencies of stuff in main then we need to adjust the overrides to account for that. | 09:39 | 
| cjwatson | Often this requires an explicit signed-off main inclusion request, but in this case that wasn't necessary since gccgo-5 is obviously just a newer version of stuff already in main. | 09:39 | 
| cjwatson | (that's the source package building gcc-5-base right now) | 09:39 | 
| Odd_Bloke | Right, got it. | 09:40 | 
| Odd_Bloke | cjwatson: Not sure if what you've done will cover it, but "gcc-5-base | 5-20150128-0ubuntu1 | vivid-proposed/universe | armhf" just popped up in the rmadison output as well. | 10:08 | 
| cjwatson | Odd_Bloke: It'll be easier to check after an archive cycle or two when our reports update. | 10:09 | 
| Odd_Bloke | Cool. | 10:09 | 
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| mlankhorst | doko: are you there? | 11:36 | 
| mlankhorst | I did some testing on 10.4.2 vs 10.4.2 with llvm-3.6, results look good. r600 with experimental llvm had no regressions compared to !llvm, swrast i386 and amd64 look good too.. | 11:39 | 
| mitya57 | sil2100: hi, I am going to upload oxide-qt to landing-005, do you know if there should be any differences against the archive version? | 11:43 | 
| mitya57 | I see two patches in d/patches, but not sure if that's all or they are still needed | 11:44 | 
| sil2100 | mitya57: hah, hey, we just briefly talked about that with tsdgeos - not sure about that, but from Mirv's e-mail I somehow felt that some changes were needed, I think Timo added hack_qt540.patch to make it buildable | 11:45 | 
| sil2100 | And made some packaging changes | 11:45 | 
| sil2100 | So this might need rebasing on the newer oxide | 11:45 | 
| sil2100 | As I didn't hear anything about those being ported upstream | 11:46 | 
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| mitya57 | sil2100: I see that Timo had two patches but looks like the second one is no longer needed. | 11:49 | 
| mitya57 | I don't see any other packaging changes | 11:51 | 
| mitya57 | sil2100: Ok, I have something that I can upload and see if it builds | 11:53 | 
| sil2100 | mitya57: thanks :) oxide is really huge, we might need to bump the PPA size limit in case a re-upload is needed | 11:54 | 
| cjwatson | Let me check the current size limits | 11:54 | 
| cjwatson | ubuntu/landing-005 already has a 20GiB limit. It seems unlikely that you'll run into trouble. | 11:56 | 
| mitya57 | yes, should be no problem | 12:00 | 
| mitya57 | uploaded | 12:02 | 
| rbasak | infinity: around for the mysql chat? | 12:24 | 
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| mlankhorst | doko: I've uploaded mesa 10.4.2-2ubuntu2 | 12:43 | 
| doko | mlankhorst, so from your point is it ok to make 3.6 the default? | 12:47 | 
| mlankhorst | yeah looks like it | 12:50 | 
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| mlankhorst | and pushed the changes for it :p | 12:53 | 
| mitya57 | sil2100: btw I just committed your qtbase change to bzr, so that it's again in sync with ppa | 12:54 | 
| jrwren | ~ | 12:58 | 
| pitti | cyphermox: oh, now I understand what you meant by NM 0.9.10 having veth support -- when I start/stop LXC containers I get a ton of "you are now connected to vethDH32FO" notifications | 13:07 | 
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| shadeslayer | mvo: did you notice the synaptic upload got rejected | 13:34 | 
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| cyphermox | pitti: yeah. I'm considering patching that out of nm-applet or something | 14:09 | 
| sil2100 | mitya57: thanks! That was one thing I wasn't sure about, if we are using a bzr branch to keep track of the current ongoing work or not | 14:15 | 
| mitya57 | sil2100: the 5.4 packaging is in qtFOO-opensource-src branches, while 5.3.2 is in qtFOO-opensource-src_532 | 14:24 | 
| sil2100 | ah, ok, saw the _532 but still wasn't sure if the trunk ones are supposed to have our 'experimental' bits in it | 14:25 | 
| pitti | cyphermox: should they even be considered connections that NM has to care about? | 14:31 | 
| cyphermox | pitti: they are already not managed, all you really do is connect/disconnect, and if you really want you could change settings (not that it wouldn't break things) | 14:32 | 
| pitti | (brb) | 14:32 | 
| cyphermox | that's why I'm thinking explicitly ignoring the virtual devices in nm-applet, since one probably shouldn't touch them, but NM isn't breaking them | 14:38 | 
| cyphermox | pitti: ^ | 14:38 | 
| pitti | cyphermox: *nod*, thanks | 14:38 | 
| pitti | ah, and I see lxcbr0 now, too | 14:39 | 
| pitti | with an option to disconnect it | 14:39 | 
| cyphermox | yep | 14:39 | 
| cyphermox | they all come up as virtual devices, and pretty clearly separated in nm-applet so hiding those should be trivial | 14:39 | 
| cyphermox | I'd do the same for VLANs, tunnels, bridges, bonds | 14:40 | 
| cyphermox | not usually that common on desktop machines, or at least not in a case where you actually want to touch them | 14:40 | 
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| lefteris | hi there, i want to make an sru in update-manager | 15:35 | 
| lefteris | i read the wiki for sru and says that firstly must branch and apply the fix to the development branch (vivid) | 15:36 | 
| lefteris | i am using ubuntu 12.04; should i download ubuntu 15.04 for building the source and testing it | 15:38 | 
| infinity | lefteris: Working on the branches isn't strictly required, you can just file a bug and attach patches. | 15:38 | 
| infinity | (against the source from the archive) | 15:39 | 
| lefteris | or i can to build the source to the presice | 15:39 | 
| lefteris | infinity: hello, firtsly; thanks for your help | 15:42 | 
| lefteris | my actual question is: if i want to debuild the source code from vivid branch must have ubuntu 15.04 or i can to do this from precise; i am aksing because debuilding source code of vivid require python3-all 3.3.0-2 and in precise is available the python3-all 3.2.3-0ubuntu1.2 | 15:47 | 
| lefteris | sorry, my question may be stupid, but i am new to making sru's | 15:47 | 
| cjwatson | lefteris: For your test build, you should use a clean 15.04 build environment, but that doesn't involve upgrading your base system. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild | 15:49 | 
| cjwatson | lefteris: If you set that up then you can also use an schroot environment for running "debuild -S" easily enough | 15:49 | 
| cjwatson | lefteris: Though in this particular case it probably doesn't actually matter just for building the source package; I'd be inclined to use "debuild -d -S" to ignore build-dependencies, and then compare the source packages with debdiff on the old and new .dsc files to make sure that didn't introduce anything unexpected | 15:51 | 
| cjwatson | lefteris: But for building the binary packages you should definitely use sbuild or similar, not try to get it to build on your 12.04 base system. | 15:51 | 
| LocutusOfBorg1 | dholbach, kbuild sync from debian/experimental? (bug 1408285) :D | 15:51 | 
| ubottu | bug 1408285 in kbuild (Ubuntu) "Please sync kbuild, virtualbox and virtualbox-guest-additions-iso from debian/experimental" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1408285 | 15:51 | 
| dholbach | let me take a look | 15:52 | 
| LocutusOfBorg1 | :) | 15:52 | 
| lefteris | cjwatson, infinity: thank you very much for your help | 15:53 | 
| lefteris | cjwatson: οκ, i got it; thank you | 15:54 | 
| LocutusOfBorg1 | thanks dholbach :) | 16:05 | 
| dholbach | anytime | 16:05 | 
| pitti | dobey: look! "autopilot PASS" with --setup-commands ubuntu-touch-session :) | 16:16 | 
| pitti | dobey: thanks for the report | 16:17 | 
| balloons | woot! | 16:17 | 
| pitti | seems vivid's upstart changed behaviour a bit | 16:18 | 
| pitti | that was in qemu, testing in LXC now for completeness | 16:18 | 
| dobey | pitti: nice :) | 16:19 | 
| pitti | wow, that fails with http://paste.ubuntu.com/9939333/, but I'm not sure that's my fault | 16:20 | 
| pitti | yep, python3 -c 'import psutil' reproduces it | 16:21 | 
| dobey | fun | 16:22 | 
| * pitti files a Debian bug | 16:25 | |
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| pitti | dobey: ok, bug sent, so running in LXC is broken for now; but qemu at least works fine now | 16:33 | 
| ovidiu_calbajos | hello all, do you know if the libc6 has been patched already for the ubuntu 12.04 openvz image? | 16:37 | 
| infinity | ovidiu_calbajos: You might need to elaborate on what you mean. | 16:38 | 
| ovidiu_calbajos | hi infinity, well one of my clients tries to update the libc6 library on his machine and doesn't get any update, also i couldn't find anything related to libc6 + openvz + ubuntu 12.04 + ghost vulnerability on the internet | 16:40 | 
| pitti | I suppose the recent security fix? | 16:40 | 
| zyga | tseliot: hey | 16:40 | 
| pitti | ah yes, ghost | 16:40 | 
| infinity | ovidiu_calbajos: Oh. openvz rolls their own libc. We know nothing about that, here. | 16:40 | 
| zyga | tseliot: are you the right person to talk about graphics, drivers and such? | 16:40 | 
| infinity | ovidiu_calbajos: The libc6 that we provide for 12.04 has been updated. | 16:40 | 
| ovidiu_calbajos | infinity: indeed I saw the update on the 12.04 but I didn't see it on openvz | 16:41 | 
| ovidiu_calbajos | thank you for your time | 16:41 | 
| infinity | ovidiu_calbajos: In other words, this is a question for openvz, not for Ubuntu. | 16:41 | 
| ovidiu_calbajos | infinity: thanks again, I will try to contact them :) | 16:42 | 
| zyga | tseliot: I want to ask you about a potential candidate for GPU stress tests | 16:47 | 
| zyga | tseliot: and if you have heard of the tool or others like it http://wili.cc/blog/gpu-burn.html | 16:47 | 
| tseliot | zyga: I'll have a look and let you know | 17:05 | 
| zyga | tseliot: thanks | 17:08 | 
| tseliot | zyga: I think that would be limited to the nvidia binary driver, as it involves using CUDA (I had a quick look) | 17:27 | 
| dobey | pitti: awesome. i guess i'll need to grab the deb from vivid to install on the host, or it will just update when i run the tests and work? | 17:32 | 
| pitti | dobey: right, you need vivid's autopkgtest package (but you need that anyway if you want to do anything on the touch platform) | 17:33 | 
| zyga | tseliot: do you know of other tools that we could use for stress testing GPUs? | 17:33 | 
| pitti | dobey: note that ATM the fix is only in git, I didn't upload to Debian/Ubuntu yet | 17:33 | 
| pitti | dobey: you can of course check out git if you want and run /your/checkout/dir/run-from-checkout | 17:34 | 
| pitti | dobey: or just grab the fixed setup script and copy it to your machine :) (http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/autopkgtest/autopkgtest.git/plain/setup-commands/ubuntu-touch-session) | 17:34 | 
| dobey | pitti: do i need it on the host or just in the vm though? | 17:34 | 
| pitti | dobey: it's unrelated to the VM; just on the system where you call adt-run | 17:35 | 
| pitti | dobey: i. e. --setup-commands <path to that script> | 17:35 | 
| dobey | pitti: ok. i wasn't sure if it was using the one on the host or in the vm for that | 17:35 | 
| pitti | dobey: the VM doesn't have anything special (it can be any VM, or you can use a schroot, or a phone, or whatever) | 17:36 | 
| dobey | anyway, copied the new script onto my host and trying a run now :) | 17:36 | 
| tseliot | zyga: that would be tests that involve using OpenGL. I think checkbox already uses the phoronix test suite, which, in turn, relies on some OpenGL tests. | 17:37 | 
| zyga | tseliot: I don't recall if we use any stress tests from pts | 17:44 | 
| zyga | tseliot: and we definitely don't have anything for opencl (or cuda) | 17:45 | 
| zyga | tseliot: so in general, the tool I've likned to is suitable for nvidia but not applicable for amd/intel, is that accurate? | 17:45 | 
| tseliot | zyga: opencl would work with both fglrx and nvidia. I'm not sure we support opencl with open drivers. Cuda is nvidia only AFAIK | 17:46 | 
| tseliot | mlankhorst, Sarvatt: ^ | 17:46 | 
| dobey | pitti: well, my tests still fail, but with a different error now :) | 17:46 | 
| tseliot | tjaalton: ^ | 17:46 | 
| dobey | ** (run.py:17865): WARNING **: Unable to find keyfile for application 'com.canonical.payui_payui_15.01.last' | 17:46 | 
| dobey | not sure how to fix that though | 17:46 | 
| pitti | dobey: ok, that's not my bug then :) is that gsettings? missing schema? | 17:46 | 
| dobey | pitti: i think it's ubuntu-app-launch complaining | 17:47 | 
| dobey | i guess it can't find the .desktop file for some reason | 17:47 | 
| pitti | dobey: ah, bug 1333215 | 17:47 | 
| ubottu | bug 1333215 in ubuntu-app-launch (Ubuntu) ""Unable to find keyfile for application": clicks installed in current session don't create UAL cache, and UAL does not look for .desktop files in click pkgdir" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1333215 | 17:47 | 
| zyga | tseliot: right about cuda, I don't know the current opencl story, I know all three vendors do their own drivers but they are not open IIRC | 17:49 | 
| pitti | dobey: you could work around it by "click install"ing it manually on the phone, restarting, and then running adt-run --click com.ubuntu.whatever (i. e. name instaed of a local .click file) | 17:50 | 
| dobey | pitti: oh i guess so | 17:50 | 
| dobey | pitti: well this is in qemu so phone won't help i guess :) | 17:50 | 
| pitti | dobey: I tried that with the calculator in qemu and it worked fine though | 17:50 | 
| pitti | dobey: hm, I wonder what I did differently then | 17:50 | 
| dobey | i wonder why the hooks aren't run when the package is installed in qemu? | 17:50 | 
| pitti | dobey: oh, which autopkgtest version do you have? | 17:51 | 
| pitti | dobey: it's not specific to qemu or lxc; it's a bug which affects all click packages | 17:51 | 
| dobey | pitti: 3.0.1 | 17:51 | 
| pitti | dobey: eww old; try the current vivid one, I think I added a workaround for this some moons ago | 17:51 | 
| pitti | dobey: you can just download the deb and install it on anything >= precise | 17:52 | 
| dobey | oh i thought it was the latest. it was a month ago when i installed it anyway :) | 17:52 | 
| pitti | dobey: hm, trusty has 2.14, utopic has 3.6, vivid 3.9.3; so 3.0 isn't actually that easy to get :) | 17:54 | 
| dobey | i should set up a recipe for backports of it in my ppa | 17:54 | 
| dobey | pitti: vivid only got 3.9.3 yesterday :) | 17:54 | 
| dobey | or well, tuesday | 17:54 | 
| dobey | oh, when did i install 3.0.1 | 17:55 | 
| dobey | weird | 17:55 | 
| dobey | whenever the last time you told me to install the latest version was, i guess :) | 17:56 | 
| dobey | i guess i should set up a backport recipe for it, to make life easier | 17:56 | 
| pitti | git! git! git! :-) | 17:56 | 
| dobey | is there an upstream import of it into bzr? :) | 17:57 | 
| pitti | Date: Thu Jul 3 07:47:54 2014 +0200 | 17:57 | 
| pitti | Fix workaround for LP #1333215 | 17:57 | 
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1333215 in ubuntu-app-launch (Ubuntu) ""Unable to find keyfile for application": clicks installed in current session don't create UAL cache, and UAL does not look for .desktop files in click pkgdir" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1333215 | 17:57 | 
| pitti | dobey: so the workaround for it was quite some time ago, but it landed in 3.1 | 17:58 | 
| pitti | so 3.0.1 is only just a teensy bit too old | 17:58 | 
| dobey | well, whatever. SRU it or set up a backports PPA if you want people to always use the latest version :) | 17:58 | 
| pitti | vila has something like that | 17:58 | 
| pitti | git import -> LP recipe | 17:59 | 
| vila | git clone <url> trunk | 17:59 | 
| vila | bzr branch trunk feature | 18:00 | 
| pitti | vila: no, I mean your "crack of the day" autopkgtest PPA | 18:00 | 
| vila | me too ;-) | 18:00 | 
| vila | cd autopkgest ; git pull | 18:00 | 
| vila | cd ../vila | 18:00 | 
| vila | bzr pull | 18:00 | 
| vila | test | 18:00 | 
| vila | bzr push | 18:00 | 
| vila | trigger recipe | 18:01 | 
| pitti | ah, ok; I thought you set up an automatic bzr import (these work rather well) | 18:01 | 
| vila | bzr-git seems to work far better when dealing with a local repo than with a remote repo | 18:01 | 
| pitti | no, I mean LP does it all for you | 18:02 | 
| pitti | e. g. https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/python-dbusmock/trunk is an automatic import of git | 18:02 | 
| vila | I don't do git push either (which is nice ;) | 18:03 | 
| dobey | and launchpad uses bzr-git | 18:03 | 
| dobey | manually pulling/pushing/etc seems like a pain in the ass for building a PPA package | 18:03 | 
| vila | pitti: oh, for a backports PPA, sorry, missed that bit | 18:04 | 
| dobey | pitti: lol. anyway, i updated and still get the keyfile error :-/ | 18:04 | 
| * pitti uploads autopkgtest 3.9.4 to Debian sid, will auto-import into vivid tomorrow | 18:04 | |
| pitti | dobey: meh; I wonder if your click is slightly different than the calculator then | 18:04 | 
| pitti | dobey: feel free to open another bug and attach (or point to) click source and binary, then I can have a look on Monday? | 18:05 | 
| pitti | (systemd hackfest tomorrow, and EOD today, sorry) | 18:05 | 
| dobey | oh | 18:05 | 
| dobey | pitti: yes, payui isn't an actual app | 18:06 | 
| dobey | pitti: so not your bug. i'll talk to ted about it | 18:06 | 
| tjaalton | zyga, tseliot: enabling opencl in mesa needs some packages moved to main first, and there is a plan to enable it once the MIR is done | 18:06 | 
| pitti | dobey: hm, still sounds related (or even identical) to #1333215? | 18:06 | 
| dobey | pitti: nope | 18:06 | 
| dobey | pitti: this doesn't have a "desktop" entry in the manifest, so there is no .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications/ (and there isn't supposed to be) | 18:07 | 
| dobey | pitti: so will have to figure out something special cased for this in our ap tests | 18:07 | 
| dobey | pitti: so i'll talk to ted and leo about it | 18:07 | 
| pitti | ah, ok; cheers! | 18:08 | 
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