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dholbachgood morning07:58
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seb128mpt, hey, new day, new question for you :-) Still in the same security panel dialog, if you have mismatched password/confirmation, having different lengths, you validate and get the try again error... should that be cleared off when you start typing or stay?09:27
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JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Curmudgeons Day! :-D09:48
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Naveenhi10:19
popeyhello10:20
Naveenany one installed ubuntu-touch on android mobile10:20
jgdxNaveen, yes, thrice!10:20
Naveencan i install on asus zenfone 410:21
jgdx!devices | Naveen10:21
ubot5Naveen: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices10:21
jgdxSeems like the answer is no10:22
Naveenmy asus zenfone is not listed in the portal10:22
jgdxseb128, hey, could you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/fix-background-test/+merge/247955 ?10:25
jgdxsmall test fix10:26
seb128jgdx, thanks, looks fine, approved10:29
jgdxseb128, danke schön10:30
seb128bitte schön!10:30
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jgdxseb128, re: bug 1413996, you don't have a SIM allowing registration on multiple networks/carriers, right? :)11:20
ubot5bug 1413996 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[cellular] Cannot change to certain carriers" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141399611:21
jgdx… beyond ofono-phonesim11:22
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ybonhumm, I took like 20 pictures of a bird that was just near my window, and when I go to the gallery app I see only one :(12:31
uhhimherei know that the generic answer to this question is no but due to the similarities in hardware I still have to ask:can I use the rom for gt-s7390 on the GT-S7580? theyre both almost identical(BCM21664 & kyle boards) except one has less ram and the other is dual core. I just want to try it out because I think the 7930 uses DTS(its board file is only 400 lines as opposed to 4k+ in 7580)12:31
ybonAnd if I go to the "photo roll" in the camera app, I see only black squares12:31
ybonI remember changing the quality setting of the picture at some point, so it may be a related bug12:31
jgdxybon, hey, have you reported a bug? And what's the output of $ system-image-cli -i12:33
ybonnot reported any bug atm, let me try the command12:35
jgdxybon, or, what image is this? vivid/rtm?12:35
jgdxand what phone12:35
ybonjgdx: rtm, on Nexus 412:36
ybonjgdx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9936186/12:36
jgdxybon, maybe you could do $ ubuntu-bug camera-app12:37
jgdxalso check that the disk ain't full12:38
jgdxthere's no warning AFAIK in RTM at the moment12:38
jgdxnerochiaro, ^12:39
ybonseems to be space on /home http://paste.ubuntu.com/9936255/12:40
jgdxright12:42
seb128jgdx, no I don't, sorry12:45
ybonI see more files in Pictures/com.ubuntu.camera/ let me download them and look for them from desktop ubuntu12:46
nerochiaroybon: jgdx: disk full warnings have been added recently, should be in the image now12:48
nerochiaroybon: do the pictures open ok on the desktop ?12:49
jgdxnerochiaro, rtm? okay12:49
nerochiarortm12:50
jgdxcould be bug 136806312:50
ubot5bug 1368063 in camera-app (Ubuntu) "The photo captured by Camera app show darkness." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136806312:50
ybonnerochiaro: nope, they don't12:51
ybonare you interested to look at some file?12:51
ybonthey are 1 byte big12:51
nerochiaroybon: are you using the zoom when taking those pictures ?12:52
ybonyes12:52
ybonit was a tiny bird :)12:52
nerochiaroybon: ok, there is a bug already reported for nexus 4, when zoom level is above 50% the camera fails in that way, with 1b pictures12:53
nerochiaroybon: it is on the queue, but not an immediate priority12:54
ybonnerochiaro: ok, thanks for the info12:54
fredericc38hi all13:05
jgdxabeato, I've seen 'any' as TechnologyPreference reported by ofono. I though that was unpossible13:07
fredericc38Are the last versions usable daily?13:07
abeatojgdx, should be13:08
abeatojgdx, which phone?13:08
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jgdxabeato, krillin13:15
jgdxabeato, I'll do some proper debugging the next time I see it13:15
abeatojgdx, please ping me if you can reproduce it, I'll need full traces on to get it13:16
abeatojgdx, can you see that value if you do list-modems now?13:16
jgdxabeato, it's a couple of days ago.. in the wild13:29
jgdxhaven't seen it since13:30
abeatojgdx, oh, I see13:30
adrian47Hello, where can I find changes that appeared in ubuntu-touch-generic-initrd_0.81_armhf.deb (0.80 -> 0.81)13:32
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jgdxadrian47, until someone who knows better answers, find the changelog.gz file for the app and use zless to view it. $ dpkg -L ubuntu-touch-generic-initrd | grep changelog14:06
adrian47jgdx, thanks14:11
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seb128mpt, hey, did you see my question this morning? ;-)14:50
elopioping renatu: is there a way to remove a contact from the command line?15:44
mptseb128, sorry, I lost track of it this morning15:48
mptseb128, I think the error should stay up until it stops being true15:50
mptbut I’ve just realized yet another mistake I made15:50
seb128mpt, does it stop being true as you type or when you try the action button again?15:50
mptseb128, as you type, I think15:52
mptFixed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings?action=diff&rev2=59&rev1=5815:52
seb128mpt, ok, so it should be removed when the password/confirmation match, not when you start doing changes to the non matching combo you had?15:53
seb128mpt, great, thanks15:53
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kenvandineseb128, got a moment for a real quick/easy review?16:26
kenvandinehttps://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1358565_initial_lastFullCharge/+merge/24789916:26
seb128kenvandine, just done that :-)16:26
kenvandinewoot16:26
kenvandinethx16:26
seb128launchpad email pinged me before IRC :p16:26
seb128yw!16:26
kenvandinesticking that in silo 6 too16:27
seb128kenvandine, not that I have a preference, but is it better to do the init there rather than in the constructor?16:28
kenvandinenot really16:28
kenvandinei don't think it really matters16:29
seb128k, I figured out that I would ask, just in case you had a good reason I could learn :-)16:29
seb128I guess matter of style16:29
seb128thanks16:29
kenvandinei just didn't want to add a line of code :)16:29
seb128hehe16:29
kenvandinein the constructor i'd have to add a line :)16:29
seb128lol16:29
kenvandinebut this fixes the randomness we see after wipe :)16:30
seb128good16:30
seb128sorry about that bug, it's a stupid one16:30
kenvandineno worries :)16:30
nerochiaro_artmello: your MR for gallery video playback is good to go16:36
artmellonerochiaro_: nice, thx16:37
popeyybon: You going to FOSDEM?17:12
ybonnope :(17:13
popeyawww17:14
Stskeepspopey: you are?17:16
nerochiaro_bfiller: do you know what's the status with getting a silo to release camera+external editor ?17:17
nerochiaro_bfiller: i don't see in the citrain dashboard17:17
popeyStskeeps: yes17:18
bfillernerochiaro_: sorry send me the MR's again. I'll get that sorted today17:18
nerochiaro_bfiller: https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/camera-app/photo-editor/ and https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/ubuntu-ui-extras/photo-editor17:19
Stskeepspopey: cool, maybe i'll see you around17:19
nerochiaro_bfiller: thansk17:19
bfillernerochiaro_: thanks17:20
ogra_*sniff* seems all the awesome people go to FOSDEM this year17:20
popeyStskeeps: will keep an eye out for you!¬17:20
* ogra_ fails *again* this year17:20
popey:(17:20
popeyI haven't been since ~200817:20
ogra_2007 for me17:20
renatuelopio, no17:40
elopiorenatu: do you think it would be an useful thing to have at some point? and, how could we do it?17:42
elopiojust to get an idea of the projects involved...17:42
renatuelopio, maybe it could be useful for autopilot tests17:53
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kenvandinegrr... this apn editor problem is annoying... after testing that yesterday my phone won't connect to my original context18:05
kenvandinejgdx, did you get a chance to poke at that?18:05
kenvandineseb128, still around?18:19
seb128kenvandine, yes18:19
kenvandineseb128, i just realized something about your sound string tweaks branch18:20
kenvandinedialpad tones is in the phone panel too18:20
kenvandinemind changing it there too?18:20
seb128oh18:20
seb128doing, thanks for catching that :-)18:20
kenvandinenp18:20
kenvandineseb128, sorry i didn't catch it in the initial review :)18:21
seb128no worry!18:21
odessahelloo!!18:23
odessa:)18:23
popeyhi18:23
kenvandinecharles, does indicator-power expose the charging state on dbus?18:23
kenvandineseb128, the qtsystems update didn't fix the upower issue :/18:23
seb128kenvandine, :-(18:23
seb128kenvandine, we should at least report a bug upstream18:24
kenvandinei'm not sure where...18:24
kenvandinethey might track bugs in qt-project for it18:24
seb128kenvandine, pushed18:26
kenvandinethx18:26
* kenvandine rebuilds silo18:26
seb128kenvandine, https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG/component/19508 I think18:28
kenvandineyeah, just filing now18:28
kenvandineseb128, https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-4421518:33
seb128kenvandine, thanks18:34
kenvandineseb128, mind approving my rtm branch too?18:47
kenvandinehttps://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/rtm-lp1358565_initial_lastFullCharge/+merge/24800618:47
kenvandinenot that i'm landing it today... but it's the same change18:47
seb128kenvandine, done18:47
kenvandinethx!18:47
seb128kenvandine, there is a stack of rtm fixes approved, need some landings :-)18:48
kenvandineyeah, some of these are on ww0718:48
kenvandineso i'll start landing those when the gates open18:48
kenvandinewe really have an insane amount of approved fixes :/18:49
kenvandineso many bugs fixed in vivid :-D18:49
kenvandineseb128, the upstream bug has been assigned and marked important19:32
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kenvandinemterry, hey... no idea what i did to get to this point... but i again have developer mode and passcode set... and the shell doesn't lock :)20:00
kenvandineon my mako this time20:00
kenvandinemterry, no biggie for me... but remember we never figured out how this happened last time20:01
kenvandinemterry, maybe something during my testing  of your revoke-auth branch20:03
kenvandineall that switching around20:03
charleskenvandine, sorry I didn't see your ping earlier, are you still looking for i-power information?20:20
kenvandinecharles, yeah20:21
kenvandinejust wondering if i can get the charging state over dbus from i-power20:21
kenvandinei know you change the icon based on state20:22
kenvandinebut not sure if you expose that20:22
charleskenvandine, not atm, but I wouldn't mind adding a dbus property for it20:24
kenvandinecharles, it sure would help me :)20:24
charleskenvandine, other than the charging/discharging bool, is there anything else you need?20:24
kenvandineactually i think a string might be better20:25
kenvandinewe might not be charging if plugged in and full20:25
charleskenvandine, right, good point20:25
kenvandinecharles, this is for bug 132970220:27
ubot5Error: Launchpad bug 1329702 could not be found20:27
charleskenvandine, this is for the "Wrong battery charged date information" bug?20:27
kenvandinecharles, no, i already fixed that20:27
charlesah20:27
charlesok20:28
charlesok, so this would be easier for you as a gaction state so that you can query it same as the auto brightness20:29
charleswe still ought to migrate those all to dbus properties but that's a bigger picture item than 132970220:29
kenvandineyeah20:29
charleskenvandine, since that bug can't affect multiple projects, I'll file a separate ticket for indicator-power and assign it to myself. I'm going to be afk this afternoon but this isn't a hard task; I'll try to have an MP for you tomorrow morning20:30
kenvandinecharles, you rock!20:31
kenvandinethen i don't have to hack around this in settings :)20:31
kenvandinecharles, i appreciate it!20:31
kenvandinewe already use i-power in the panel, so it would be nice to keep it consistent20:31
charleskenvandine, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/141609620:34
ubot5Launchpad bug 1416096 in indicator-power (Ubuntu) "expose battery charging state on the bus" [Medium,In progress]20:34
kenvandinecharles, thanks20:34
nhainesAww, I was just about to congratulate Łukasz.20:44
AceLanafter installing ubuntu-keyboard and reboot, there is no maliit-server running in background. I've link /usr/share/applications/maliit-server.desktop to /etc/xdg/autostart, but no luck21:04
AceLancan anyone give me a hint or tell me how to debug it21:04
pmcgowanElleo, you about?21:10
Elleopmcgowan: yep?21:12
pmcgowanElleo, sorry to bother you - can you advise AceLan21:12
Elleosure, just let me check how we've got it setup to launch on the phone21:13
ElleoAceLan: what sort of system are you running this on? something with X11?21:16
AceLanElleo: no, on top of mir21:17
ElleoI think on the phone it's just done as an upstart job21:17
AceLanElleo: actually, it's a x86 table21:17
AceLantablet21:17
Elleoif you launch maliit-server manually does it start okay? (i.e. it isn't crashing or anything)21:17
AceLanElleo: yes, it runs well, no error message21:18
ElleoI suspect the unity8/mir stuff doesn't implement /etc/xdg/autostart so that probably isn't being read21:18
AceLanElleo: I just checked N7 which installed ubuntu touch on it, it doesn't contains /etc/xdg/autostart/maliit-server.desktop, but it auto runs after booting up21:19
Elleoyeah, I'm pretty sure it's done via upstart21:20
ElleoI'm not massively familiar with upstart though, still poking around the phone to try and see where that's setup21:21
Elleo(that side of things was all configured long before I started working on it)21:21
AceLanElleo: I found a file /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/maliit on N7, but not on my tablet, maybe it's related21:23
ElleoAceLan: yeah, I was wondering about that; it's part of the maliit-framework package though so it should be installed on the tablet too21:24
Elleobut it also sounds rather X11 specific21:24
ElleoAceLan: my best guess would be to try adding that and see if it helps, I guess some upstart script might read the XIM stuff anyway21:25
ElleoAceLan: are you using the standard maliit-framework package from the repos?21:26
AceLanElleo: yes, it's in maliit-framework, and yes, it's already in my tablet, my fault21:27
AceLanElleo: yes, from vivid repo21:27
Elleoah okay21:27
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ElleoAceLan: ah, it was in /usr/share/upstart/sessions/maliit-server.conf rather than /etc/21:30
ElleoAceLan: I'll pastebin the contents21:30
ElleoAceLan: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9943493/21:31
AceLanElleo: coo, you are the man21:34
AceLanElleo: it's working now21:34
ElleoAceLan: awesome :)21:34
AceLanElleo: thank you very much21:36
ElleoAceLan: no problem :)21:36
seb128kenvandine, great21:41
seb128kenvandine, nice, keep the landings going :-)21:45
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kenvandineseb128, we have lots to land21:51
seb128kenvandine, indeed21:54
kenvandinersalveti, cyphermox: can one of you guys look at landing that agent-rework branch again?21:55
rsalvetikenvandine: yup, in my list, had to debug first why it's so bad to pair devices with the current code21:56
rsalvetithe change looks fine, but can't validate if it indeed fixes anything21:57
rsalvetias I can't pair with any of my devices21:57
rsalvetiworks better with krillin + rtm though, wonder if vivid only21:57
kenvandinersalveti, yeah, i have no way of testing it21:57
cyphermoxrsalveti: it should be the same krillin or vivid22:14
cyphermoxi mean, rtm or vivid22:15
cyphermoxbluez is the same, and that's pretty much all that matters22:15
sander^homeDo anyone know about a sip client for ubuntu phone? I know linphone is one client on android and ubuntu, but not ubuntu-touch.22:57
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sander^homeIts actually an opensource client. What does it take to port an opensource app from android to ubuntu-phone?23:03
sander^homeWhat programming langages can I use for ubuntu-phone?23:22
sander^homelanguages*23:22
sander^homeI guess I can use phonegap:)23:28
sander^homeSeems like the android linphone app is written in java :-(23:53
tmpRAOFsander^home: You can use whatever language you can compile to ARMv7, hard-float. Lots of stuff is written in QML, as that's easy.23:53
tmpRAOFsander^home: That's likely, given that Java is the primary Android development platform :). You could theoretically still use it; IIRC the archive JRE runs on arm.23:55
sander^hometmpRAOF, is there someone who's described the steps to port an app?23:56
tmpRAOFProbably; I've not seen it, though.23:56
tmpRAOFSorry.23:56
sander^homeWell. You have android spesific bindings in java in android.23:57
sander^homeis those bindings included in ubuntu?23:58
tmpRAOFNo23:58
tmpRAOFThe GUI would ideally want to be QML, hooked up to whatever backend you want.23:58

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