[07:58] <dholbach> good morning
[09:27] <seb128> mpt, hey, new day, new question for you :-) Still in the same security panel dialog, if you have mismatched password/confirmation, having different lengths, you validate and get the try again error... should that be cleared off when you start typing or stay?
[09:48] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Curmudgeons Day! :-D
[10:19] <Naveen> hi
[10:20] <popey> hello
[10:20] <Naveen> any one installed ubuntu-touch on android mobile
[10:20] <jgdx> Naveen, yes, thrice!
[10:21] <Naveen> can i install on asus zenfone 4
[10:21] <jgdx> !devices | Naveen
[10:22] <jgdx> Seems like the answer is no
[10:22] <Naveen> my asus zenfone is not listed in the portal
[10:25] <jgdx> seb128, hey, could you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/fix-background-test/+merge/247955 ?
[10:26] <jgdx> small test fix
[10:29] <seb128> jgdx, thanks, looks fine, approved
[10:30] <jgdx> seb128, danke schön
[10:30] <seb128> bitte schön!
[11:20] <jgdx> seb128, re: bug 1413996, you don't have a SIM allowing registration on multiple networks/carriers, right? :)
[11:22] <jgdx> … beyond ofono-phonesim
[12:31] <ybon> humm, I took like 20 pictures of a bird that was just near my window, and when I go to the gallery app I see only one :(
[12:31] <uhhimhere> i know that the generic answer to this question is no but due to the similarities in hardware I still have to ask:can I use the rom for gt-s7390 on the GT-S7580? theyre both almost identical(BCM21664 & kyle boards) except one has less ram and the other is dual core. I just want to try it out because I think the 7930 uses DTS(its board file is only 400 lines as opposed to 4k+ in 7580)
[12:31] <ybon> And if I go to the "photo roll" in the camera app, I see only black squares
[12:31] <ybon> I remember changing the quality setting of the picture at some point, so it may be a related bug
[12:33] <jgdx> ybon, hey, have you reported a bug? And what's the output of $ system-image-cli -i
[12:35] <ybon> not reported any bug atm, let me try the command
[12:35] <jgdx> ybon, or, what image is this? vivid/rtm?
[12:35] <jgdx> and what phone
[12:36] <ybon> jgdx: rtm, on Nexus 4
[12:36] <ybon> jgdx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9936186/
[12:37] <jgdx> ybon, maybe you could do $ ubuntu-bug camera-app
[12:38] <jgdx> also check that the disk ain't full
[12:38] <jgdx> there's no warning AFAIK in RTM at the moment
[12:39] <jgdx> nerochiaro, ^
[12:40] <ybon> seems to be space on /home http://paste.ubuntu.com/9936255/
[12:42] <jgdx> right
[12:45] <seb128> jgdx, no I don't, sorry
[12:46] <ybon> I see more files in Pictures/com.ubuntu.camera/ let me download them and look for them from desktop ubuntu
[12:48] <nerochiaro> ybon: jgdx: disk full warnings have been added recently, should be in the image now
[12:49] <nerochiaro> ybon: do the pictures open ok on the desktop ?
[12:49] <jgdx> nerochiaro, rtm? okay
[12:50] <nerochiaro> rtm
[12:50] <jgdx> could be bug 1368063
[12:51] <ybon> nerochiaro: nope, they don't
[12:51] <ybon> are you interested to look at some file?
[12:51] <ybon> they are 1 byte big
[12:52] <nerochiaro> ybon: are you using the zoom when taking those pictures ?
[12:52] <ybon> yes
[12:52] <ybon> it was a tiny bird :)
[12:53] <nerochiaro> ybon: ok, there is a bug already reported for nexus 4, when zoom level is above 50% the camera fails in that way, with 1b pictures
[12:54] <nerochiaro> ybon: it is on the queue, but not an immediate priority
[12:54] <ybon> nerochiaro: ok, thanks for the info
[13:05] <fredericc38> hi all
[13:07] <jgdx> abeato, I've seen 'any' as TechnologyPreference reported by ofono. I though that was unpossible
[13:07] <fredericc38> Are the last versions usable daily?
[13:08] <abeato> jgdx, should be
[13:08] <abeato> jgdx, which phone?
[13:15] <jgdx> abeato, krillin
[13:15] <jgdx> abeato, I'll do some proper debugging the next time I see it
[13:16] <abeato> jgdx, please ping me if you can reproduce it, I'll need full traces on to get it
[13:16] <abeato> jgdx, can you see that value if you do list-modems now?
[13:29] <jgdx> abeato, it's a couple of days ago.. in the wild
[13:30] <jgdx> haven't seen it since
[13:30] <abeato> jgdx, oh, I see
[13:32] <adrian47> Hello, where can I find changes that appeared in ubuntu-touch-generic-initrd_0.81_armhf.deb (0.80 -> 0.81)
[14:06] <jgdx> adrian47, until someone who knows better answers, find the changelog.gz file for the app and use zless to view it. $ dpkg -L ubuntu-touch-generic-initrd | grep changelog
[14:11] <adrian47> jgdx, thanks
[14:50] <seb128> mpt, hey, did you see my question this morning? ;-)
[15:44] <elopio> ping renatu: is there a way to remove a contact from the command line?
[15:48] <mpt> seb128, sorry, I lost track of it this morning
[15:50] <mpt> seb128, I think the error should stay up until it stops being true
[15:50] <mpt> but I’ve just realized yet another mistake I made
[15:50] <seb128> mpt, does it stop being true as you type or when you try the action button again?
[15:52] <mpt> seb128, as you type, I think
[15:52] <mpt> Fixed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings?action=diff&rev2=59&rev1=58
[15:53] <seb128> mpt, ok, so it should be removed when the password/confirmation match, not when you start doing changes to the non matching combo you had?
[15:53] <seb128> mpt, great, thanks
[16:26] <kenvandine> seb128, got a moment for a real quick/easy review?
[16:26] <kenvandine> https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1358565_initial_lastFullCharge/+merge/247899
[16:26] <seb128> kenvandine, just done that :-)
[16:26] <kenvandine> woot
[16:26] <kenvandine> thx
[16:26] <seb128> launchpad email pinged me before IRC :p
[16:26] <seb128> yw!
[16:27] <kenvandine> sticking that in silo 6 too
[16:28] <seb128> kenvandine, not that I have a preference, but is it better to do the init there rather than in the constructor?
[16:28] <kenvandine> not really
[16:29] <kenvandine> i don't think it really matters
[16:29] <seb128> k, I figured out that I would ask, just in case you had a good reason I could learn :-)
[16:29] <seb128> I guess matter of style
[16:29] <seb128> thanks
[16:29] <kenvandine> i just didn't want to add a line of code :)
[16:29] <seb128> hehe
[16:29] <kenvandine> in the constructor i'd have to add a line :)
[16:29] <seb128> lol
[16:30] <kenvandine> but this fixes the randomness we see after wipe :)
[16:30] <seb128> good
[16:30] <seb128> sorry about that bug, it's a stupid one
[16:30] <kenvandine> no worries :)
[16:36] <nerochiaro_> artmello: your MR for gallery video playback is good to go
[16:37] <artmello> nerochiaro_: nice, thx
[17:12] <popey> ybon: You going to FOSDEM?
[17:13] <ybon> nope :(
[17:14] <popey> awww
[17:16] <Stskeeps> popey: you are?
[17:17] <nerochiaro_> bfiller: do you know what's the status with getting a silo to release camera+external editor ?
[17:17] <nerochiaro_> bfiller: i don't see in the citrain dashboard
[17:18] <popey> Stskeeps: yes
[17:18] <bfiller> nerochiaro_: sorry send me the MR's again. I'll get that sorted today
[17:19] <nerochiaro_> bfiller: https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/camera-app/photo-editor/ and https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/ubuntu-ui-extras/photo-editor
[17:19] <Stskeeps> popey: cool, maybe i'll see you around
[17:19] <nerochiaro_> bfiller: thansk
[17:20] <bfiller> nerochiaro_: thanks
[17:20] <ogra_> *sniff* seems all the awesome people go to FOSDEM this year
[17:20] <popey> Stskeeps: will keep an eye out for you!¬
[17:20]  * ogra_ fails *again* this year
[17:20] <popey> :(
[17:20] <popey> I haven't been since ~2008
[17:20] <ogra_> 2007 for me
[17:40] <renatu> elopio, no
[17:42] <elopio> renatu: do you think it would be an useful thing to have at some point? and, how could we do it?
[17:42] <elopio> just to get an idea of the projects involved...
[17:53] <renatu> elopio, maybe it could be useful for autopilot tests
[18:05] <kenvandine> grr... this apn editor problem is annoying... after testing that yesterday my phone won't connect to my original context
[18:05] <kenvandine> jgdx, did you get a chance to poke at that?
[18:19] <kenvandine> seb128, still around?
[18:19] <seb128> kenvandine, yes
[18:20] <kenvandine> seb128, i just realized something about your sound string tweaks branch
[18:20] <kenvandine> dialpad tones is in the phone panel too
[18:20] <kenvandine> mind changing it there too?
[18:20] <seb128> oh
[18:20] <seb128> doing, thanks for catching that :-)
[18:20] <kenvandine> np
[18:21] <kenvandine> seb128, sorry i didn't catch it in the initial review :)
[18:21] <seb128> no worry!
[18:23] <odessa> helloo!!
[18:23] <odessa> :)
[18:23] <popey> hi
[18:23] <kenvandine> charles, does indicator-power expose the charging state on dbus?
[18:23] <kenvandine> seb128, the qtsystems update didn't fix the upower issue :/
[18:23] <seb128> kenvandine, :-(
[18:24] <seb128> kenvandine, we should at least report a bug upstream
[18:24] <kenvandine> i'm not sure where...
[18:24] <kenvandine> they might track bugs in qt-project for it
[18:26] <seb128> kenvandine, pushed
[18:26] <kenvandine> thx
[18:26]  * kenvandine rebuilds silo
[18:28] <seb128> kenvandine, https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG/component/19508 I think
[18:28] <kenvandine> yeah, just filing now
[18:33] <kenvandine> seb128, https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-44215
[18:34] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks
[18:47] <kenvandine> seb128, mind approving my rtm branch too?
[18:47] <kenvandine> https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/rtm-lp1358565_initial_lastFullCharge/+merge/248006
[18:47] <kenvandine> not that i'm landing it today... but it's the same change
[18:47] <seb128> kenvandine, done
[18:47] <kenvandine> thx!
[18:48] <seb128> kenvandine, there is a stack of rtm fixes approved, need some landings :-)
[18:48] <kenvandine> yeah, some of these are on ww07
[18:48] <kenvandine> so i'll start landing those when the gates open
[18:49] <kenvandine> we really have an insane amount of approved fixes :/
[18:49] <kenvandine> so many bugs fixed in vivid :-D
[19:32] <kenvandine> seb128, the upstream bug has been assigned and marked important
[20:00] <kenvandine> mterry, hey... no idea what i did to get to this point... but i again have developer mode and passcode set... and the shell doesn't lock :)
[20:00] <kenvandine> on my mako this time
[20:01] <kenvandine> mterry, no biggie for me... but remember we never figured out how this happened last time
[20:03] <kenvandine> mterry, maybe something during my testing  of your revoke-auth branch
[20:03] <kenvandine> all that switching around
[20:20] <charles> kenvandine, sorry I didn't see your ping earlier, are you still looking for i-power information?
[20:21] <kenvandine> charles, yeah
[20:21] <kenvandine> just wondering if i can get the charging state over dbus from i-power
[20:22] <kenvandine> i know you change the icon based on state
[20:22] <kenvandine> but not sure if you expose that
[20:24] <charles> kenvandine, not atm, but I wouldn't mind adding a dbus property for it
[20:24] <kenvandine> charles, it sure would help me :)
[20:24] <charles> kenvandine, other than the charging/discharging bool, is there anything else you need?
[20:25] <kenvandine> actually i think a string might be better
[20:25] <kenvandine> we might not be charging if plugged in and full
[20:25] <charles> kenvandine, right, good point
[20:27] <kenvandine> charles, this is for bug 1329702
[20:27] <charles> kenvandine, this is for the "Wrong battery charged date information" bug?
[20:27] <kenvandine> charles, no, i already fixed that
[20:27] <charles> ah
[20:28] <charles> ok
[20:29] <charles> ok, so this would be easier for you as a gaction state so that you can query it same as the auto brightness
[20:29] <charles> we still ought to migrate those all to dbus properties but that's a bigger picture item than 1329702
[20:29] <kenvandine> yeah
[20:30] <charles> kenvandine, since that bug can't affect multiple projects, I'll file a separate ticket for indicator-power and assign it to myself. I'm going to be afk this afternoon but this isn't a hard task; I'll try to have an MP for you tomorrow morning
[20:31] <kenvandine> charles, you rock!
[20:31] <kenvandine> then i don't have to hack around this in settings :)
[20:31] <kenvandine> charles, i appreciate it!
[20:31] <kenvandine> we already use i-power in the panel, so it would be nice to keep it consistent
[20:34] <charles> kenvandine, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/1416096
[20:34] <kenvandine> charles, thanks
[20:44] <nhaines> Aww, I was just about to congratulate Łukasz.
[21:04] <AceLan> after installing ubuntu-keyboard and reboot, there is no maliit-server running in background. I've link /usr/share/applications/maliit-server.desktop to /etc/xdg/autostart, but no luck
[21:04] <AceLan> can anyone give me a hint or tell me how to debug it
[21:10] <pmcgowan> Elleo, you about?
[21:12] <Elleo> pmcgowan: yep?
[21:12] <pmcgowan> Elleo, sorry to bother you - can you advise AceLan
[21:13] <Elleo> sure, just let me check how we've got it setup to launch on the phone
[21:16] <Elleo> AceLan: what sort of system are you running this on? something with X11?
[21:17] <AceLan> Elleo: no, on top of mir
[21:17] <Elleo> I think on the phone it's just done as an upstart job
[21:17] <AceLan> Elleo: actually, it's a x86 table
[21:17] <AceLan> tablet
[21:17] <Elleo> if you launch maliit-server manually does it start okay? (i.e. it isn't crashing or anything)
[21:18] <AceLan> Elleo: yes, it runs well, no error message
[21:18] <Elleo> I suspect the unity8/mir stuff doesn't implement /etc/xdg/autostart so that probably isn't being read
[21:19] <AceLan> Elleo: I just checked N7 which installed ubuntu touch on it, it doesn't contains /etc/xdg/autostart/maliit-server.desktop, but it auto runs after booting up
[21:20] <Elleo> yeah, I'm pretty sure it's done via upstart
[21:21] <Elleo> I'm not massively familiar with upstart though, still poking around the phone to try and see where that's setup
[21:21] <Elleo> (that side of things was all configured long before I started working on it)
[21:23] <AceLan> Elleo: I found a file /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/maliit on N7, but not on my tablet, maybe it's related
[21:24] <Elleo> AceLan: yeah, I was wondering about that; it's part of the maliit-framework package though so it should be installed on the tablet too
[21:24] <Elleo> but it also sounds rather X11 specific
[21:25] <Elleo> AceLan: my best guess would be to try adding that and see if it helps, I guess some upstart script might read the XIM stuff anyway
[21:26] <Elleo> AceLan: are you using the standard maliit-framework package from the repos?
[21:27] <AceLan> Elleo: yes, it's in maliit-framework, and yes, it's already in my tablet, my fault
[21:27] <AceLan> Elleo: yes, from vivid repo
[21:27] <Elleo> ah okay
[21:30] <Elleo> AceLan: ah, it was in /usr/share/upstart/sessions/maliit-server.conf rather than /etc/
[21:30] <Elleo> AceLan: I'll pastebin the contents
[21:31] <Elleo> AceLan: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9943493/
[21:34] <AceLan> Elleo: coo, you are the man
[21:34] <AceLan> Elleo: it's working now
[21:34] <Elleo> AceLan: awesome :)
[21:36] <AceLan> Elleo: thank you very much
[21:36] <Elleo> AceLan: no problem :)
[21:41] <seb128> kenvandine, great
[21:45] <seb128> kenvandine, nice, keep the landings going :-)
[21:51] <kenvandine> seb128, we have lots to land
[21:54] <seb128> kenvandine, indeed
[21:55] <kenvandine> rsalveti, cyphermox: can one of you guys look at landing that agent-rework branch again?
[21:56] <rsalveti> kenvandine: yup, in my list, had to debug first why it's so bad to pair devices with the current code
[21:57] <rsalveti> the change looks fine, but can't validate if it indeed fixes anything
[21:57] <rsalveti> as I can't pair with any of my devices
[21:57] <rsalveti> works better with krillin + rtm though, wonder if vivid only
[21:57] <kenvandine> rsalveti, yeah, i have no way of testing it
[22:14] <cyphermox> rsalveti: it should be the same krillin or vivid
[22:15] <cyphermox> i mean, rtm or vivid
[22:15] <cyphermox> bluez is the same, and that's pretty much all that matters
[22:57] <sander^home> Do anyone know about a sip client for ubuntu phone? I know linphone is one client on android and ubuntu, but not ubuntu-touch.
[23:03] <sander^home> Its actually an opensource client. What does it take to port an opensource app from android to ubuntu-phone?
[23:22] <sander^home> What programming langages can I use for ubuntu-phone?
[23:22] <sander^home> languages*
[23:28] <sander^home> I guess I can use phonegap:)
[23:53] <sander^home> Seems like the android linphone app is written in java :-(
[23:53] <tmpRAOF> sander^home: You can use whatever language you can compile to ARMv7, hard-float. Lots of stuff is written in QML, as that's easy.
[23:55] <tmpRAOF> sander^home: That's likely, given that Java is the primary Android development platform :). You could theoretically still use it; IIRC the archive JRE runs on arm.
[23:56] <sander^home> tmpRAOF, is there someone who's described the steps to port an app?
[23:56] <tmpRAOF> Probably; I've not seen it, though.
[23:56] <tmpRAOF> Sorry.
[23:57] <sander^home> Well. You have android spesific bindings in java in android.
[23:58] <sander^home> is those bindings included in ubuntu?
[23:58] <tmpRAOF> No
[23:58] <tmpRAOF> The GUI would ideally want to be QML, hooked up to whatever backend you want.