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Kilosmorning mazal  and others04:36
mazalMore oom04:37
KilosFetched 93,2 MB in 1min 44s (891 kB/s)04:40
Kilosek like dit as die net vinig is04:40
Kiloshi bduk  05:34
bdukMore Kilos en al die ander ubunties en usisies05:36
Kiloslol05:36
Kiloslatest from eskom is they are going to charge more for electricity during load shedding periods05:42
* Kilos smells a rat somewhere, a big one05:47
mazalEskom - We are too incompetant to do our work. Hey we know what will solve it , charge the people more for service they don't receive. yeah that will fix everything05:49
bdukSo they gonna charge you more while they cut the electricity or are you gona pay more while the other peeps are cut?????05:50
mazal*sigh* Never underestimate the power of a bunch of idiots together05:50
Kiloshahaha05:50
bdukclever very clever05:50
mazalOnly in SA05:50
Kiloshopefully they mean the peeps that get power during that period05:50
mazalNow they can bigger salaries and bigger bonusses for still doing nothing05:51
Kilosyip all part of the plan05:51
bdukits ok keep on like that and one of these days they dont have a market anymore alternatives are getting cheaper and cheaper05:51
mazalOns is dom maar ons probeer , hiya hiya hoe05:51
mazalEn werk dit nie dan charge ons meer , hiya hiya hoe05:52
mazal( opdie wysie van Old Mcdonald have a farm)05:52
Kiloslol05:52
mazalEk sal eerder nie die res sing nie want ek try om nie meer te vloek nie05:53
Kiloshehe05:53
Kilosek hoop net hulle sit dit nie af hier nie om middernag volgende donderdag05:54
Kilosdit sal n ramp van astronomiese preporsies wees05:54
Kilosproporsies05:55
Kilosdaai ding05:55
bdukwat gebeur dan Kilos ?05:56
Kilosmembership meeting05:56
bdukok05:56
Kilosby die loco council05:56
captineKilos, the meeting is today right05:57
Kilosno05:58
Kilos5th05:58
captinecool.  if tonight, i would struggle.  had a late night last night05:58
Kilosmorning as well can05:58
captinemorning05:58
captineoff to the doc's.  cheers chaps05:58
Kilosim gonna struggle anyway. late nights are heavy for me05:58
Kilosgood luck05:59
captineyou coul have done the midday timezone... 05:59
captinemaybe... 05:59
Kilosya but i want to go with fly05:59
Kilosworking peeps cant do the midday thing05:59
Kilosi should have cured the sore throat for you06:00
Kilosai!06:00
mazalWhat's that site's name again that you paste pics ?06:09
mazalCan never remember it06:09
Kilospicpaste.com06:10
mazalDankie06:10
Kilosyw06:11
Kilosthats the one i use, others use imgur or something06:11
mazalHet uieindelik my tweede een gekry:06:12
mazalhttp://picpaste.com/screenshot_877375136-5NGOgvlG.png06:12
Kiloswhats that06:15
Kiloso ja06:15
mazal'n kat , my tweede een :)06:18
mazalNa baie lank weer een gekry06:18
Kiloshehe06:21
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy  06:30
ThatGraemeGuymorning06:31
mazalMorning ThatGraemeGuy06:36
inetprogood mornings06:41
Kilosmorning inetpro  06:41
Kiloshi SDCDev  06:43
SDCDevmorning Kilos06:44
Kiloshi Xethron  07:04
Kilosai! turn my back and tswane cuts the power07:18
Kilosgrrr07:18
stickyboyGrrr.07:18
Kiloshi stickyboy  07:18
stickyboyKilos: Morning!07:18
stickyboyPlaying with Ansible today... cleaning up our infrastructure scripts.07:19
Kilosgood07:19
Kilosi want to convert you all to ubuntu07:19
stickyboyKilos: Server Ubuntu fine. :)07:25
stickyboyKilos: But why does Canonical have to go their own way on almost *everything*?07:25
stickyboyFirst, their extended LTS kernels: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Kernel/Dev/ExtendedStable07:26
stickyboyUpstream has SIX longterm stable kernels... and Canonical has committed to maintaining 7 other ones... SEVEN.07:28
stickyboyOk, power problems. :)07:28
Kilosai! again. sigh07:35
stickyboyKilos: I had a whole discussion with you in the time you ping timeout'ed.07:43
Kiloslol07:51
Kilospm it07:51
charlgood morning08:07
charlMaaz: coffee on08:07
* Maaz washes some mugs08:07
Kiloshi charl  08:08
charlhi Kilos 08:08
Kilosmaybe ssd's arent a wise choice here unless you have a good ups08:09
Kiloshttp://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/03/01/224257/how-power-failures-corrupt-flash-ssd-data08:09
Kilosand my new one should be here friday or monday08:10
Kilossigh08:10
ThatGraemeGuypower failures will kill a rust-spinning disk as well08:11
ThatGraemeGuyget a ups regarless08:11
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!08:11
charlhi ThatGraemeGuy 08:12
charlMaaz: thanks08:12
Maazcharl: No problem08:12
Kilosi need to save for a ups battery rather than more pc stuffs i think08:22
Kiloswell done Xethron  08:28
Squirmehlo08:28
Kiloshi Squirm  08:28
charlups does not only help with power failures it also helps with voltage dips08:28
charlin botswana we used to have huge problems with that08:29
charlif you do not run a computer behind a ups it will simply break the psu08:29
Kiloswe  have massive probs atm08:29
Squirmcharl: or spikes, like when the power comes back on after an outage08:29
charland then you need to replace the psu every month08:29
charlSquirm: tru08:29
ThatGraemeGuyand hope the psu didn't also kill a hard disk or motherboard08:29
SquirmThat's how the municipality killed my psu08:29
Kilosi also have an inverter her that can run a tv off a battery08:29
ThatGraemeGuyor both08:29
charlThatGraemeGuy: also tru08:30
charlalthough if it's a good psu it shouldn't08:30
XethronThanks Kilos08:30
Xethron* CAP: Xethron!Xethron@unaffiliated/xethronXethronYou are now logged in as Xethron.08:30
Xethron* CAP: SASL authentication successful08:30
XethronSeems it was SASL I was looking for08:30
XethronHello charl08:30
charlhi Xethron 08:30
ThatGraemeGuyKilos you don't typically RUN the pc off the ups, its there to provide smoother power and to give you opportunity to do a clean shutdown in case of mains failure08:30
ThatGraemeGuythe UPS you buy for R1,000 is probably going to last less than an hour if you try and run a pc on it08:31
Kilosyes ThatGraemeGuy  thats why im thinking of use an inverter and car battery as well as the ups08:31
ThatGraemeGuyto get something that can run for several hours will cost big bucks08:31
SquirmIndeed08:31
Kilosyeah i just want time to shutdown safely08:31
SquirmEsquire is selling UPS's for R70008:32
ThatGraemeGuydo they have a USB interface at that price point?08:34
Kilosunnecessary pain this power cut nonsense08:34
ThatGraemeGuyI am actively shopping around, so far an APC will be R1,240 :(08:35
Kilosai!08:35
ThatGraemeGuyI found prolines for less but i'm not sure of the linux compatibility08:35
Kilosi go mow some lawn 08:37
KilosMaaz  watch them08:37
MaazOK Kilos I'll keep an eye on them for you08:37
ThatGraemeGuymaaz watch yourself08:39
MaazThatGraemeGuy: *blink*08:39
ThatGraemeGuymaaz go to sleep08:39
MaazThatGraemeGuy: Huh?08:39
XethronMaaz I think I love you08:43
MaazXethron: Excuse me?08:43
XethronMaaz too soon?08:43
MaazXethron: Sorry...08:43
XethronMaaz Its ok08:43
MaazXethron: Huh?08:44
mazalbbl , gotta backup home08:52
stickyboyKilos: I was talking to you earlier about your "convert everyone to Ubuntu" comment. :D08:54
stickyboyKilos: I was saying that Ubuntu on the server is great, but I don't know why they have to go in their own direction on everything.08:54
Kiloshaha08:54
Kilosits called freedom of choice08:55
stickyboyFirst, kernel.org maintains SIX longterm kernels.  Canonical maintains SEVEN SEPARATE longterm ones...08:55
stickyboyKilos: Oracle MySQL is a horrible company, horrible technology, and all distros switch to MariaDB.  Shuttleworth publicy comments that Ubuntu will "stick with MySQL".08:55
Kilosthey have big plans with supporting pcs and mobiles08:56
Kiloshe must know something others dont08:56
Kiloshes isnt a multimillionare because hes dumb08:56
stickyboyFurthermore, Shuttleworth said "I think Oracle have been an excellent steward of MySQL, with real investment and great quality."08:57
stickyboyThis is mental...08:57
stickyboyUbuntu on the server? Go go go. Desktop? I recommend Fedora to newbies now.08:57
stickyboyKilos: But we can still be friends.08:58
stickyboy:D08:58
Kiloslol ty so much08:58
stickyboyI briefly switched from Arch to Fedora 1 year ago... (still on Fedora, omg, geek cred gone).08:59
stickyboyFedora 21 is a joy to use... really.08:59
Kilosill stick with kubuntu. it does way more than i can ever use and is super stable09:00
Kiloshard work for me to learn new stuff again09:01
Kilosand yum is something you say when what you are eating is scrumtious09:01
stickyboyKilos: These days we have dnf. :)09:01
Kiloshaha09:01
Xethronstickyboy: Fedora is nice, but its too bleeding edge. Fedora was my first distro, but if you're going to give Fedora to someone who just want to get stuff done, they're going to be very frustrted09:02
XethronFedora is what Ubuntu tries not to be. A distro for the geeks09:03
XethronFor newbies, I firmly believe in Linux Mint09:03
XethronI also use it everyday as I don't have time to play around with Linux, I just need to get my work done09:03
stickyboyXethron: Yah, I get that. (about Fedora being too bleeding edge).09:05
stickyboyXethron: Debian 7 is great too.09:05
XethronLinux Mint is built on top of Ubuntu's idea of being a "Linux Distro for Human Beings"... But honnestly, I can't stand Ubuntu or Unity. I tried it for a while, and was the most unproductive month of my life09:06
XethronLinux Mint with Cinnamon is really stable09:06
Kilosstickyboy  remember geek type peeps are serious in the minority, one must have a distro to rival windows09:06
Kiloswe need to think outside the linux box to get ahead world wide09:08
bdukKilos: you done with the lawn?09:14
Kilosno man it started raining09:14
Kilosgood way to get hair that stands up straight09:15
bdukoh thought you had a very small lawn. What about the sheep don't they do the lawn? 09:16
Kilosthey do about 3/4 of it as well as the rest of the plot09:17
Kilosi just mow in front of the house09:17
bdukraining there now Kilos ?09:17
Kilosactually on the side where we in/out09:18
Kilosstopped now09:18
bdukraining here, wonder where else anyone?09:18
Xethronhaha11:48
XethronYou guys talking about rain :P11:48
Xethronbduk: It did rain in JHB as well earlier ;)11:48
Kiloslooks like it getting ready to throw some more here11:49
Squirm'lo11:54
Squirmanyone else's net go down?11:54
SquirmI heard dfa was down11:56
ThatGraemeGuynope11:58
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://www.speedtest.net/result/4098954519.png still looking healthy :)12:00
SquirmThatGraemeGuy: heard dfa is down south of teraco12:39
Squirmnot quite sure what south means12:39
Squirmbut I take that it's between us and them :D12:40
Squirmwith our ISP in the middle somewhere12:40
mazalBye everyone , have a nice evening. God bless.12:46
superflyhe goes to bed early12:46
Kiloshehe12:52
SquirmBack up12:59
SquirmThatGraemeGuy: using the internal network for a Speed Test is cheating13:00
ThatGraemeGuyhuh?13:00
SquirmSwitching lines, be back now13:02
SquirmOk13:03
SquirmPainless13:03
ThatGraemeGuywoop woop13:06
Kiloswhat now13:08
SquirmOur main fibre link came back up13:12
Kiloswhat causes fibre lines to drop13:22
Kilosthats all sealed stuff isnt it13:22
ThatGraemeGuythere's a lot of equipment involved too besides the physical fibre13:46
ThatGraemeGuybut typically some idiot cut through a fibre somewhere and it takes a bit of time to get someone to fix it13:47
Kilosah13:53
Kilosexpensive equipment needed just to make the connections13:53
Kilosi think i looked at that once for someone13:53
SquirmKilos: very expensive14:23
Squirmwe had a guy come a few times to Treverton, fibre being dug up was a fairly regular occurance :/14:23
Kilosyeah and precision work to join each little pipe properly14:24
Kilosno haphazard half jobs14:26
SquirmHome time15:07
Kilosyay15:08
Kilosnearly weekend15:08
SquirmIt's 6pm15:54
Squirmand still 29deg15:54
Squirmsuperfly: I'm baking15:54
Kiloslol15:54
Kiloswhat15:54
Kilosoh not baking cake or scones or something15:55
Kilosdidnt you buy a fan Squirm  ?15:55
SquirmNo15:55
SquirmI haven't15:55
SquirmNot going anywhere now, the roads are chaos15:55
Kiloswell you got this weekend to get one15:55
Squirmsuperfly: you said you take the train? Which I also hear are running super late15:55
Kilosorder one online and have it delivered15:56
SquirmBecause the road between the M3 and Main is just backed up with cars15:56
SquirmTakes me 5min to get to work in the morning, a max of 10min to get back in the afternoon15:56
SquirmI got home after 20min today15:56
Kiloswow15:57
Squirm:/15:57
Kilosbut 20 mins is still good15:57
Kilossome pta peeps that work in jhb have 2 hours travel time morning and night when travic is good15:58
Kilostrafic15:58
Kilostraffic15:58
Kilosthe thing that lotsa cars make up15:58
Squirmbut they live far from work Kilos15:58
SquirmI live 3km15:59
Kilosya 80 ks15:59
Kiloswow only 315:59
Kilosget a bike15:59
Squirmand arrive sweaty?15:59
Kilosbicycle better then you stay fit too15:59
Kiloslol15:59
Kilosbuzz bike man15:59
Kilosno sweat15:59
SquirmLooking for a scooter16:00
Kilosscooter ya16:00
Kilosor a 50cc motorbike16:00
Kilosthey go forever on a tank of fuel16:00
SquirmLooking for a 150cc scooter16:01
Squirmor 100c bike16:01
Kilosya thats good16:01
Squirm125cc16:02
Kilostakealot.com must have fans in their inventory and they in capetown so delivery shouldnt take long16:03
Kilossweating when trying to rest sucks16:04
SquirmI'll just go to checkers16:04
Squirmor a chinese mall16:04
Kilosno traffic to them16:04
Kilostry both places and get the fan that blows the best with a 1 year garauntee16:05
Kilosgaurantee16:05
Kiloswhew forgot how to spell16:05
KilosMaaz  spell garauntee16:06
MaazKilos: That doesn't seem correct, but I can't find anything to suggest16:06
KilosMaaz  spell gaurantee16:06
MaazKilos: Suggestions: Guarantee or guarantee16:06
Kilosoh ya16:06
Kilosguarantee16:06
SquirmPaid R100 for my last fan, it still works16:12
SquirmBut it's at my parents place16:12
SquirmIt's 2 years old now16:12
Kilosmine is about 20 years old hehe16:13
Kilosno cover on it anymore even16:13
Kiloscover get messed up when you move a lot16:13
SquirmI think it's Nando's for dinner16:24
Kilosyum16:25
Kilosyou prefer nandos to kentucky?16:27
SquirmI do16:27
Kilosthe hot ones16:27
Squirmand the KFC drive through is insane16:27
Kilosya16:27
SquirmBut I prefer nano's16:27
Squirmand it's the same distance16:28
Squirmbbl16:28
Kilosi love kentucky16:28
SquirmThat was tasty17:14
Kiloslol17:20
Kiloswhen you hungry most food is tasty and that that isnt gets fixed easy with tomato sauce or chili + arlic sauce17:21
Kiloschili + garlic17:21
captinehi all17:36
Kiloshi captine  17:37
captineSquirm, i just picked up nandos as well.17:37
captinelove that stuff17:37
Kiloswb Xethron  17:39
magespawngood evening18:32
magespawnhas anyone used seafile?18:33
magespawna little like owncloud, i think18:34
Kiloshi magespawn  18:36
magespawnhi Kilos, what is the link for your testimonial page?18:37
Kiloshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos#preview18:37
Kilosor no preview, im not sure what that does18:38
magespawnty18:38
Kiloshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos18:39
Kilosmaybe you can tell me what the preview bit does18:39
magespawnnot sure, it did not seem to want to load with that at the end18:40
Kilosah18:40
Kiloswe should just teach maaz these pages18:41
KilosMaaz  inetpro.page18:44
Maazhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/inetpro18:44
Kilosyou must make a page too magespawn  18:44
KilosMaaz  seen gremble18:47
MaazKilos: gremble was last seen 1 day, 23 hours, 7 minutes and 52 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-01-27 11:39:24 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-01-27 12:08:34 PST18:47
KilosMaaz  wake him up18:47
Maazthe twit is hiding Kilos18:47
Kilosai!18:47
Kilosinetpro  yoohoo18:53
magespawni don't think that i have demonstrated the needed support just yet19:03
Kilosactually magespawn  i read some of their stuff and one can apply and reapply if you fail the first time, but making a wiki page is a start and then you keep adding stuff as an when you do things19:04
Kilosyou also helped me often and were always there for company even when i didnt need help so i will support you no question19:05
Kilosand now you are become a wireless expert so you will be the wireless man19:06
inetprogood evenin19:07
Kiloshi there inetpro  19:08
Kilosnow i forgot what i wanted to ask you19:08
Kiloshehe19:08
magespawntestimonial done19:19
Kilosty magespawn  19:19
Kilosdont forget fly and pro hey19:19
Kiloshi kulelu88  19:26
kulelu88Hey oom19:26
Kilosmagespawn  who is this19:27
Kilosnot the monkey??19:27
Kiloskulelu88  you causing me sleepless nights, im going to be too tired to attend the membership meeting19:28
Kiloshehe19:28
kulelu88oom you need to smoke some of the green stuff :P19:29
Kiloshahaha19:30
Kilosgremble?19:30
Kiloswb SDCDev  19:31
SDCDevty Kilos :) how are you?19:33
SDCDevIm in Jeffreys Bay now19:33
Kilosim good ty and you SDCDev  19:33
Kiloswow thats lekker19:33
SDCDevIm great thanks :D19:33
Kilosgone to catch wavse?19:33
Kiloswaves19:34
SDCDevhehe 2500KMs done in 4 weeks :) another 2000 to go :P19:34
Kilosoi19:34
Kiloscatch some waves first19:34
SDCDevnah just visiting family... will catch some waves while im here though :)19:34
Kilosbest waves in the country19:34
SDCDevyea im here until Next week wednesday :)19:34
Kilosnice19:34
Kilosjbay rocks19:35
Kilosyour bum must be sore already19:35
Kilosmind you dont catch it on the reef19:36
SDCDevhaha19:36
magespawnSDCDev: about 600kms a week19:37
magespawnsome driving that19:37
SDCDevlol well we on a roadtrip :)19:37
magespawnwhere to next then?19:37
Kilosthrough the transkei19:38
Kilosmind the cattle on the roads19:38
SDCDevhaha we did the transkei already :) we heading south :P19:39
SDCDevtook over 2 weeks to get through the transkei, its just so beautiful19:40
superflySquirm: I do take the train, but I wasn't today.19:40
superflySquirm: but I also travel a little further than 3kms ;-)19:40
Kilosohi superfly  1 week and some hours19:41
Kilosare you ready19:41
Kiloshehe19:41
superflyKilos: I'm ready as I'll ever be.19:41
captineSDCDev, Transkei is great.  Mazeppa bay and Cebe are my favourites... hole in the wall is also up there19:41
superflyHaga Haga. I need to go back there again. Soon.19:42
superflyhey Xethron19:42
captinenight all.  was up way too late last night.  superfly, after using it last night, bazaar is pretty easy... although i admit I used the bazaar gui for most of what i did... what can I say.  I am a pictures man.. :P)019:48
captinenight19:48
Kilosnight cap19:48
Kilossleep tight19:48
Kilosai!19:48
Kiloscaptine  19:48
superflycaptine: haha, that's fine.19:52
kulelu88nothing wrong with using a GUI captine 20:02
Kilosshhh he sleeping20:02
Kiloskulelu88  you in jozi ?20:03
kulelu88in GP oom20:04
Kiloswhere were you before20:04
KilosGP is a big place20:04
magespawni am also off up the wooden hillock  to bedfordshire20:08
Kiloshuh?20:09
Kilosim tired man you must explain in english not riddles20:09
magespawni'll explain on another day kilos, bit too tired right now, essentially means i am off to bed 20:10
Kilosnight my magespawn  ty and sleep tight20:10
magespawngood night all20:11
Kiloskulelu88  where were you before GP man20:26
kulelu88always been here20:27
Kilosyou like ian, i have to drags things out of him bit by bit as well20:27
Kilosoh my20:27
kulelu88haven't had the luxury of being a lifeguard oom 20:27
kulelu88:P20:27
kulelu88ping me with my username otherwise I may forget to reply oom20:27
Kiloshmm...20:28
Kilosnight all. sleep tight. i go ponder for a while20:30
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