[00:10] <ging> does anyone know how to manually set the cdrom mount path in apt conf ?
[00:10] <ging> the example in the man page shows /cdrom/::Mount "foo";
[00:11] <ging> i have tried setting it like that and as APT::/cdrom/::Mount "foo"; but neither seem to work
[00:14] <ging> maybe it should be APT::CDROM::MOUNT "foo"; ?
[00:19] <jakey2> im running ubuntu in virtual box and the screen res is very small
[00:21] <mgolisch> jakey2: did you install the guest additions?
[00:21] <jakey2> yes
[00:21] <mgolisch> from within virtualbox?
[00:22] <mgolisch> also what ubuntu version are you using? and what virtualbox version?
[00:22] <genaro> hello
[00:22] <jakey2> yes from within
[00:23] <jakey2> 14.10
[00:30] <Lugal> are in general all backdoors open ports which can be fount by netstat?
[00:31] <yeahbabe> no
[00:31] <yeahbabe> it can be a modified login bin or anything
[00:45] <LeBlaaanc> can anyone think of a way to "git clone https://x:y@bitbucket.com" noninteratively if I get an authenticity error with ssl?
[00:46] <LeBlaaanc> http://serverfault.com/questions/447028/non-interactive-git-clone-ssh-fingerprint-prompt
[00:48] <kat_Kmk> Hello. I was on here yesterday asking some questions about switching from windows to Ubuntu. I am currently trying to do so. I have downloaded infrarecorder and also used ubuntus website to download the desktop version of ubuntu. I am following step by step as their website instructs. However, I am not sure how to extract the download files to where my files appear as they do as the "ISO image".
[00:48] <kat_Kmk> I'm not sure in which way to extract the ubuntu files so they are burn ready.
[00:49] <Ben64> you burn the iso as an image to a disc
[00:49] <hvsau> Hu guys
[00:49] <hvsau> I have an issue, the desktop icons don't work when I double click them
[00:50] <iq> Hi
[00:50] <daftykins> kat_Kmk: which Windows version?
[00:50] <bazhang> kat_Kmk, dont extract, keep the iso intact then burn to dvd or usb stick]
[00:50] <kat_Kmk> Ok. This time I have not extracted the files. So they have are currently in my zip manager as various files. Do I extract them to a folder now
[00:50] <daftykins> no you do not open the ISO at all
[00:50] <kat_Kmk> i have windows 7 right now./
[00:50] <bazhang> kat_Kmk, keep the iso intact
[00:51] <daftykins> kat_Kmk: it has a built in ISO writer if you have a writer drive and blank DVDs?
[00:51] <daftykins> kat_Kmk: right click -> open with -> image burner or something it'll say
[00:52] <kat_Kmk> im sorry, i am not very computer saavy. so how would i add these files from my 7zip folder they are currently in?
[00:52] <bruxC> I setup a samba share in /etc/samba/smb.conf. it's sharing a secondary ntfs-3g disk that's currently configured in fstab to automount. I'd like to change the permissions so that everyone on my home network has modify permissions. How would I go about accomplishing this?
[00:52] <beerbuntu> Hi - new to ubuntu. I have an ubuntu server that's been running stable non-stop for a year.  today it dropped off my network and won't come back after a restart.  what would you recommend I check first?  I'm at a loss.  Nothing out of the ordinary has happened
[00:52] <hcastro> Does anyone know if the steps to create the Ubuntu Vagrant cloud images exist in a repository somewhere?
[00:52] <daftykins> kat_Kmk: there is only one file, a .ISO - you downloaded that. do not try and use 7zip on it, do not extract it
[00:52] <bazhang> kat_Kmk, first of all just use the iso intact
[00:53] <kat_Kmk> okay. i guess with them being mutliple folders it confused me into thinking they were multiple files. Will infrarecorder be what i need to use now? That is the recommend from the ubuntu website
[00:53] <daftykins> bruxC: NTFS volumes can't have permissions, you can try mounting the volume with options that mount it as samba users, or if you have it as guest, with the guest account. this is very messy though
[00:53] <marjinal1st> Is there a standart (or convention) for Ubuntu applications' structure? For example I'm developing a basic indicator app, how should I create the package structure? (I mean foldering -> src, data, po etc.)
[00:54] <kat_Kmk> ok, they appeared to me upon downloading through 7zip. i have not taken any action through that program yet.
[00:54] <daftykins> kat_Kmk: infrarecorder can burn to DVDs yes.
[00:54] <bruxC> best practice aside, is it possible to have it at least ask for an user/pw when going into the shared, daftykins ? I currently have it as guest OK with Read writes.
[00:55] <daftykins> kat_Kmk: infrarecorder can burn to DVDs yes.
[00:55] <daftykins> oops
[00:55] <bruxC> But I'd like to have the ability to drag/drop files into this shared. If I can add a user/pw all the better, if not then whatever.
[00:55] <daftykins> kat_Kmk: like i said, right click on the ISO - open with -> infrarecorder should be listed
[00:55] <OerHeks> hcastro, https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/
[00:55] <daftykins> bruxC: yeah but permissions is completely different, you need to get guest working before you can lock it down, with your example. but a Linux file system would've been far easier
[00:56] <bruxC> guest works.
[00:56] <hcastro> OerHeks: Thanks, but I'm looking for the streps they used to produce those Vagrant boxes.
[00:56] <bruxC> I understand. there are many ways to make many things better. however, I have a direction i would like to take but don't know much about linux.
[00:57] <bruxC> so what is needed once guest works?
[00:57] <kat_Kmk> There is no Iso Image folder. On the website it appears as a desktop icon after downloading the ubuntu files, one that says "ubuntu". all of my files i downloaded automatically appeared through 7zip. I'm not sure how to proceed.
[00:57] <bazhang> kat_Kmk, did you choose open with 7zip when downloading
[00:58] <bekks> Set your Explorer options to NOT hide "known extentions", and you will see the full file names.
[00:58] <daftykins> bruxC: you turn off guest and setup users that are allowed to access that share, by creating them and setting an smb password for them. this should all be documented online pretty commonly
[00:58] <daftykins> !samba
[00:59] <bruxC> Thanks daftykins
[00:59] <bruxC> on I go to read.
[00:59] <kat_Kmk> i didnt think i did. sorry if i did. i dont remember any prompting happening. Im pretty sure i downloaded in web screen, then upon downloading they appeared through a 7zip window. I will try again and watch for any prompts this time as to how i want to open them.
[00:59] <daftykins> NTFS shared will give you nothing but hassle though :)
[00:59] <bazhang> kat_Kmk, choose simply save to disk next time you download iso
[00:59] <bruxC>  Already down the rabbit hole.
[01:00] <OerHeks> hcastro, lookin at launchpad, gives me more than one vagrant project https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vagrant
[01:00] <kat_Kmk> ok i will delete and try again. thank you.
[01:00] <daftykins> kat_Kmk: more to the point, you do have blank DVDs yes? and a DVD writer drive?
[01:01] <kat_Kmk> yes.
[01:07] <kat_Kmk> im just going to uninstall 7zip just in case for now.
[01:07] <daftykins> there's no need for that
[01:08] <daftykins> just go to http:/releases.ubuntu.com/ and download the ISO
[01:08] <daftykins> i'd recommend 14.04.1
[01:08] <kat_Kmk> i really dont think it asked me how to open it, and its just defaulting to opening it through 7zip. but if thats not possible than i guess it wasnt necessary.
[01:09] <daftykins> you just need to follow my advice and not double click on it
[01:09] <daftykins> it sounds like the wrong default program is associated with .ISOs
[01:09] <kat_Kmk> ok ty
[01:09] <daftykins> so once it downloads, as in you've selected to save to disk, not open...
[01:09] <daftykins> you right click on the ISO -> open with -> <program>
[01:09] <Nickmane> Can anyone tell me the best way to use a dedicated server running ubuntu as a remote desktop i can control from my mac?
[01:10] <kat_Kmk> ok thank you.
[01:11] <bruxC> let's say i have a folder (folderA) that has many subfolders. if I: chmod 777 folderA    will this add the same permissions to the subfolders and files?
[01:11] <EriC^^> bruxC: only with chmod -R
[01:11] <bruxC> Thank you.
[01:12] <daftykins> Nickmane: physical box in your home?
[01:12] <daftykins> it's NTFS, you can't set permissions (:
[01:12] <Nickmane> daftykins: no. with oh hosting
[01:12] <Nickmane> ovh*
[01:12] <daftykins> Nickmane: putting a GUI on a server is a mistake
[01:12] <Nickmane> maybe but what's the best way?
[01:12] <daftykins> it's command line learning time!
[01:13] <daftykins> sorry not touching that one, it's wrong
[01:13] <Nickmane> you're an idiot. why withhold info because it's not something you would do?
[01:14] <daftykins> ah personal insults, an excellent way to request advice
[01:14] <yeahbabe> Nickmane: don't talk to her that way
[01:14] <Nickmane> yeahbabe: read what she posted. tell me i'm wrong
[01:15] <nii236|irssi> Yo is this the place to ask for Compiz support
[01:15] <yeahbabe> Nickmane: even so she's entitled to her opinion and she is voluntering dont forget
[01:15] <r_await> Nickmane - ssh command line, but if you need a desktop try Nomachine (ssh X )
[01:15] <Nickmane> if someone wants to use 2 monitors, and i can help them. i'm not going to say i won't help because i don't personally use two monitors. only an idiot would say such things
[01:16] <daftykins> the difference with your example is that there are no security risks with two displays
[01:16] <k1l_> Nickmane: no need to insult and no need to make a drama now. stick to technical support or leave the channel. thanks
[01:16] <Nickmane> daftykins: but aren't these my security risks?
[01:16] <bruxC> not to butt in but who is to say that security is a concern for someone?
[01:16] <Nickmane> exactly
[01:17] <bruxC> to say security is a good enough reason to withold information isn't adequate reason in my opinion. After all, what are homelabs anyway if not to learn?
[01:17] <daftykins> it's a hosted system online, the security of everyone online is the responsibility of else using the internet
[01:17] <bruxC> any ways, that is just my .02. Carry on.
[01:17] <yeahbabe> Nickmane: she doesn't agree with your approach, doesn't want to help with somehing she doesn't agree with. no need to insult her
[01:17] <daftykins> s/else/everyone/
[01:18] <Nickmane> okay well can anyone willing to help give me some advice? is vnc fluxbox the best way to go? or are there newer/better ways
[01:18] <r_await> Nickmane: use nomachine to remote control your servers
[01:18] <k1l_> guys, here are volunteers helping others, so we cant force someone to help if one doesnt want to. so since Nickmane got some solutions now lets drop the drama and focus on technical support again. thanks
[01:18] <Nickmane> r_await: okay thanks
[01:19] <johnnymeow> hi
[01:19] <xangua1>  
[01:21] <r_await> Nickmane: nomachine uses ssh, though you could always use ssh to tunnel VNC.
[01:23] <hourback> Hi, all.  Here's my question on superuser.com:  http://superuser.com/questions/870837/how-do-i-get-grub2-to-boot-to-cloned-windows-8-disk
[01:24] <hourback> Anyone able to help me?  I can't get Ubuntu/GRUB2 to boot to my cloned Windows partition.
[01:24] <hourback> I'm sort of running out of time for this.  :-)  I need to decide whether it's worth it to spend any more time on this or just do a fresh install of Windows.
[01:24] <Ben64> maybe ask in ##windows if that is a valid way to move an install
[01:24] <daftykins> hourback: Windows installs are on multiple partitions, so you're attempting to bypass the Windows bootloader right there, it's not going to work
[01:25] <bazhang> !grub | hourback have a read
[01:26] <hourback> Ben64: Good idea.  I hope they don't bounce me back here with scorn.  :-)
[01:27] <hourback> daftykins: It looked like grub's "drivemap" and "chainloader" are for that purpose specifically.
[01:27] <daftykins> i read a bit more and see that you're trying to boot a second win8 install from a first
[01:28] <daftykins> anyway, more a Windows issue. :)
[01:31] <kat_Kmk> okay. i just downloaded ubuntu. youre right, i must have 'opened' it. my options when i right click it in the bottom of my web page, are 1. open 2. always open files of this type 3. show in folder
[01:31] <kat_Kmk> which do i do?
[01:32] <Ben64> show in folder
[01:32] <Ben64> that will open up the folder where you downloaded it, and you should be able to see the iso there
[01:33] <kat_Kmk> okay thank you.
[01:34] <kat_Kmk> it is under downloads now, should i drag the folder to my desktop or is it fine to proceed from that point. sorry, i know these are prob basic ass questions
[01:35] <kat_Kmk> or do i right click as is and open with my infrarecorder
[01:37] <bruxC> daftykins, so the answer to my question was smbpasswd -a username and then adding a password
[01:38] <bruxC> I figured I would share this information in case someone else seeks the same answer.
[01:44] <dlam> omg how do i remove a file named  -v
[01:45] <dlam> 'rm \-v'  and  'rm --v' no work
[01:45] <teward> dlam: what's it named?  literally: -v ?
[01:45] <dlam> yes lol i feel like a noob
[01:45] <teward> dlam: try rm "-v" ?
[01:45] <dlam> that gives me "rm: missing operand"
[01:45] <cryptodan> rename it in file manager
[01:46] <dlam> only got shell access :D
[01:46] <teward> dlam: what cryptodan said.  Alternatively, this worked on 14.04 for me:  rm '\-v'
[01:46] <NegativeFlare> dlam: mc
[01:46] <NegativeFlare> aka
[01:46] <NegativeFlare> midnight commander
[01:46] <teward> granted I use zsh instead of bash but still
[01:46] <mgolisch> rm ./-v ?
[01:47] <dlam> ooo mgolisch: that worked!
[01:56] <kat_Kmk> I just bruned the image to my disk, im attempting to install ubuntu and it only took a few minutes. do i have to do anything else or is everything ready?
[01:57] <Ben64> kat_Kmk: probably ready
[01:58] <kat_Kmk> man... i put it back in to check its content and it just spits it back out
[02:02] <writing_novel> Is anyone here familiar with running Ubuntu System p/Linux on an OpenPower 720?
[02:03] <kat_Kmk> Ben64 i put it back in to check its content and it just spits it back out. do yoyu what happened?
[02:03] <Ben64> kat_Kmk: i don't know what that means
[02:04]  * writing_novel Is anyone here familiar with running Ubuntu System p/Linux on an OpenPower 720?
[02:06] <OerHeks> writing_novel, that would be powerpc ?
[02:06] <writing_novel> Indeed it would be...yes!
[02:06] <Ben64> from the early 2000s, would be nice as a doorstop or something like that
[02:07] <OerHeks> writing_novel, not familiar, but i found images  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.1/release/
[02:07] <writing_novel> yes, I do have the images
[02:07] <OerHeks> server and desktop, community builds if i am correct
[02:08] <writing_novel> the OpenPower 720 I have is 4 processor, 64GB doorstop that 1TB of DASD space. And at work we are going to be using Ubuntu on Power7, so I figure I can play with it to a limited extent at home using a free 720 a friend is giving me.
[02:09] <Ben64> writing_novel: do you have an actual support question then?
[02:09] <writing_novel> That doorstop will also make a wonderful fileserver, spaceheater, and VPN server / router too.
[02:09] <writing_novel> a few, yes...
[02:09] <writing_novel> 1 second
[02:11] <writing_novel> first of all is there any Ubuntu documentation I can get that is power5 specific or openserver specific for the 14.10 release? I didn't see any but that doesn't mean there isnt something useful or that is well recommended. I am not lazy and willing to read
[02:12] <writing_novel> second question was if anyone had tried and to hear their experiences
[02:13] <writing_novel> third question was I used to login to the Ubuntu Forums with a regular username/password now it requires me to use facebook it seems, is there a way to use a regular username/password that I am not seeing for the forums?
[02:14] <writing_novel> Ben64: May I IM you directly?
[02:14] <Ben64> use the channel for support
[02:14] <writing_novel> ok
[02:15] <writing_novel> So what (if any) power5 docs are there for the current release of 14.10?
[02:15] <Ben64> you're not going to find much stuff for ppc, its old and not many people use it, if they did, they would probably pick 14.04
[02:15] <writing_novel> Ah as that is LTS!
[02:16] <writing_novel> I didn't think to look there.
[02:18] <writing_novel> when was the last release of PowerPC ubuntu that anyone really used that might have good docs on it?
[02:20] <jcath> hi, friends, is there an official customized size-down ubuntu server distribution for virtual host usage, like redhat's rhev? thanks
[02:21] <Grady> i am having trouble loading unity, I was talking to EriC^^ earlier and here is what we did, I loaded a previous kernel cause the current one did not have an internet connection (i presume from the problem itself), after signing in unity does not load (does this in both kernels), and a report window comes up saying system problem detected (no details) the only thing i can do really is load tty1, EriC^^ went on to say try typing dpkg -l | grep "xorg-video\|nvi
[02:21] <Grady> dia" | nc termbin.com 9999...... nothing happened (after that I had to leave) can someone pick up where he left off? thanks!
[02:22] <Xenos> anyone have experience with gnu octave?
[02:24] <Bashing-om> writing_novel: Q3 : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2230004 . further problems join #ubuntuforums to discuss .
[02:26] <writing_novel> bashing-om: Quick question, its been a while since I signed into ubuntuforums is there a way to do that with just a regular username and password and not have to use Facebook or something else?
[02:27] <writing_novel> I just found this too: http://www.sandelman.ca/SSW/talks/openpower720/1-pow-opsetup.pdf
[02:27] <TooFastNet> [question] Is anyone here good with the Lynx web browser?
[02:28] <Bashing-om> writing_novel: No , since the forum was hacked, stricter requirements are in place .. but one can use any of several login ID sources ( launchpad, Google and so on ) .
[02:29] <Grady> ok quick update to my question above, I tried loading the old kernel (the one that i can get a connection on) i tried signing in as a guest, and unity loaded... does this help any?
[02:29] <writing_novel> ok, fair enough
[02:29] <Bashing-om> writing_novel: In that stricter sense see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2164369 .
[02:32] <Grady> ok, another update, when logging out and then back onto my account, i was able to get more info on the system problem report, the problem stated it had trouble installing wine-compholio 1.7.33~ubuntu 14.04
[02:33] <TooFastNet> Question, does anyone here have any experience in setting up a local proxy for Lynx?
[02:33] <Bashing-om> Grady: EriC^^ :: I am about done for this session .. I recall from earlier .. nd I was concerned that you could not do " termbin.com 9999 ". DNS issue ? To push this along a bit ,, What results -> ping -c3 ubuntu.com <- .( as you can get to unity on the guest account indicates a config problem in your account )
[02:35] <Grady> bashing-om: in tty1 (under the problemed account) i received a response from ubuntu 3 packets transmitted 3 received 0 packet loss
[02:36] <cyberpolice> where is ddrescue package
[02:37] <k1l_> !find ddrescue
[02:37] <k1l_> cyberpolice: there is ddrescue and dd_rescue iirc
[02:37] <cyberpolice> i dont have it for some reason
[02:37] <k1l_> but the ddrescue is in the gddrescue package
[02:37] <Prometheian> I'm running an Ubuntu VM, but for some reason the VM screen area is very small and I'm not sure why.  Is there an easy fix? I'm using Virtual Box.
[02:38] <OerHeks> gddrescue indeed
[02:38] <cyberpolice> so sudo apt-get install gddrescue
[02:38] <k1l_> yep
[02:38] <cyberpolice> thanks :)
[02:38] <writing_novel> I also have a question about Xen if anyone has experience with using the ACPI_FIRMWARE configuration parameter in Xen?
[02:38] <OerHeks> you don't install on the system you want to rescue, i hope
[02:39] <cyberpolice> what do you mean
[02:39] <cyberpolice> oh i get it now
[02:39] <cyberpolice> no, i plugged a flash drive into my system for rescue. the usb flash drive is dying
[02:39] <OerHeks> oke, have fun :-)
[02:39] <cyberpolice> ill recover image to my ubuntu
[02:42] <OerHeks> Prometheian, i guess vbox guest additions fixes that, and more https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/GuestAdditions
[02:43] <Prometheian> OerHeks: trying now
[02:44] <Bashing-om> Grady: " installing wine-compholio 1.7.33~ubuntu 14.04" check the package manager -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get -f install , sudo dpkg -C <-. Do they all run clean ?
[02:44] <writing_novel> I also have a question about Xen if anyone has experience with using the ACPI_FIRMWARE configuration parameter in Xen?
[02:45] <Prometheian> Fixed it, ty!
[02:46] <Grady> Bashing-on: it seems to be stuck at 47% right after Translation-en
[02:46] <Bashing-om> Grady: Think'n .. gimme a bit.
[02:47] <Grady> Bashing-om: don't worry, give this a bit more time too, might just be a big download
[02:49] <Grady> Bashing-om: its still on 47% but lines coming from private-ppa.launchpad.net trusty inrelease is what pops up on the next lines
[02:51] <Bashing-om> Grady: Maybe a corrupted control file .. maybe a slow mirror ? Let's see if it completes and then take actioon .
[02:57] <Grady> Bashing-om: .... its still dloading the private ppa trusty release but going from 47 to 44 to 42....
[02:59] <Bashing-om> Grady: Do not know the why - real slow WIFI connection ? long as it is progressong .. we wait . Is what I think .
[03:00] <Grady> Bashing-om: i can wait, but if you have to go, just link me up with another guy, i dont feel to compitent trying to describe my problem
[03:02] <Bashing-om> Grady: I can hang for a bit yet .
[03:03] <Bashing-om> Grady: But, nothing more can be done 'til the package manager is in a happy state .
[03:03] <Grady> =)
[03:09] <bicly> ty k1l_ your comment actually helped alot
[03:09] <k1l_> np
[03:12] <writing_novel> I also have a question about Xen if anyone has experience with using the ACPI_FIRMWARE configuration parameter in Xen?
[03:21] <Kat_MK> Hello. I was wondering if there is a driver i can install for my tp link wireless repeater that will run on ubuntu?
[03:25] <Bashing-om> Grady: I am getting impatient . staus of 'apt-get update' ?
[03:37] <writing_novel> I also have a question about Xen if anyone has experience with using the ACPI_FIRMWARE configuration parameter in Xen?
[03:40] <happyfr0gg> I need help fixing something possibly broken with my apt-get. Error message is at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9929131/
[03:40] <kat_MK> What is the best antivirus for Ubuntu?
[03:41] <Bashing-om> !antivirus | kat_MK
[03:42] <happyfr0gg> kat_MK, any free antivirus will work. There is very little threat of viruses for Ubuntu compared to Windows.
[03:43] <happyfr0gg> I need help fixing something possibly broken with my apt-get. Error message is at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9929131/
[03:44] <Bashing-om> happyfr0gg: try: -> sudo rm -fr /var/lib/apt/lists , sudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partial , sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- (corrupted control file ) .
[03:45] <happyfr0gg> Bashing-om, Synaptic will fail to load and present an error message similar in statement.
[03:46] <Bashing-om> happyfr0gg: OK, bet still is a corrupted control file, remove them, and update will rebuild with current info .
[03:46] <happyfr0gg> Bashing-om, in the command you gave me, what does "fr", and "-pv" do?
[03:47] <kat_MK> thank you.
[03:48] <Shnaz> hey guys, well im back and ive set up a samba file server. I wanted to make it more secure so i added PAM to the samba server so people need to log in via username and password. however it dosnt say anywhere on how to set up this said suername and password. any tips?
[03:48] <Bashing-om> happy f = force, r = recursive p = parents v = verbose .
[03:49] <Ben64> Shnaz: smbpasswd ?
[03:50] <Shnaz> your dealing with a noob here= lol what do you mean?
[03:50] <Ben64> Shnaz: theres a command, called "smbpasswd" which probably sets the password you want
[03:50] <kat_MK> I get BAD REQUEST Bad Bot Go Away when I try to install off of ubuntu software center. I just made my account. What gives?
[03:51] <kat_MK> (I confirmed account through email)
[03:51] <Shnaz> ok I will try that, will this also set up the username?
[03:52] <Ben64> "man smbpasswd" to read the manual
[03:54] <happyfr0gg> Bashing-om, I ran the commands as you stated but I still receive the same error messages in terminal.
[03:55] <Bashing-om> happyfr0gg: "Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status" ?
[03:56] <Shnaz> ok thanks Ben64 i think this might help me, could not find this info ANYWHERE
[03:57] <happyfr0gg> Bashing-om, all four errors still exist as in --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9929131/
[03:59] <Bashing-om> happyfr0gg: What is installed ? -> apt-cache policy libnspr4 <- .
[04:00] <happyfr0gg> Bashing-om, I don't understand your question. Sorry.
[04:01] <Bashing-om> happyfr0gg: The error condition seems to be in respect to 'libnspr4' . Let's check what is installed and what version should be installed. 'apt-cache policy' will tell us the options and we go look -> apt-cache policy libnspr4 <- returns what ?
[04:02] <happyfr0gg> Bashing-om, I ran -> apt-cache policy libnspr4 <- with sudo and all four of the same errors came up.
[04:02] <kat_MK>  I get BAD REQUEST Bad Bot Go Away when I try to install off of ubuntu software center. I just made and confirmed my account. Why can't I install anything?
[04:03] <Bashing-om> happyfr0gg: apt-cache policy does not require 'sudo' .. lemme run it here with sudo, see what I get .
[04:03] <Ben64> kat_MK: what are you trying to get
[04:04] <kat_MK> the beginners guide to ubuntu magazine and a firewall and such, lol. all free things
[04:04] <happyfr0gg> Bashing-om, I ran it WITHOUT sudo and terminal still gives me the same four error messages.
[04:04] <Ben64> kat_MK: seems like a bug, you already have a firewall, you can use the ubuntu manual
[04:05] <crazyhead42> Hi, I'm trying to set up a print-to-file printer. Unfortunatly, this doesn't seem too normal based on what I've seen online. Any guidance?
[04:06] <Bashing-om> happyfr0gg: Something stinks real bad . Reboot to clear memory .. and try again . carefully -> apt-cache policy ibnspr4 <- .
[04:06] <kat_MK> ok thank you. is the ubuntu manual just something to search for online or is it something I have installed?
[04:07] <Ben64> !manual | kat_MK
[04:07] <kat_MK> Thank you :)
[04:08] <happyfr0gg> Bashing-om, I experienced this last night, I turned on my Ubuntu laptop a few minutes ago and the same error messages as last night came up.
[04:09] <Grady> bashin-om: still working up at 44 now....
[04:09] <Grady> srry, i was afk
[04:09] <Bashing-om> happyfr0gg: IF the package manager is broke, it is above my skill level to fix 'dpkg' // But it can be done, I have seen it done .. not an easy thing to do !
[04:10] <Bashing-om> Grady: That is taking way way too long .. something is not right at all !
[04:12] <happyfr0gg> Bashing-om, Synaptic fails to load and presents me with the same error messages. I also see that I no longer have any authentication keys for my packages in Synaptic.
[04:13] <Ben64> happyfr0gg: pastebin the outputs of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list etc/apt/sources.list.d/*list" "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:14] <happyfr0gg> Ben64, okay, give me a minute or so. Be right back.
[04:15] <happyfr0gg> Ben64, do I need to use sudo for each of those commands?
[04:16] <Ben64> happyfr0gg: only the ones with sudo
[04:16] <bray90820> What would the terminal command be for enter or a blank line
[04:16] <writing_novel> I also have a question about Xen if anyone has experience with using the ACPI_FIRMWARE configuration parameter in Xen?
[04:16] <happyfr0gg> Ben64, okay.
[04:17] <Bashing-om> Grady: Do ctl+c at this tome to get out of 'update' .I also think may be best to disable all your 3rd party sources in the file /etc/apt/sources.list (if any there) and also in the 3rd party directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d . Then try and see of -> sudo apt-get update <- will run .
[04:18] <Bashing-om> tome/time*
[04:20] <Grady> bashing-om: how would I disable third party sources?
[04:20] <Corvette> Install Ubuntu from USB drive with UEFI or without UEFI?
[04:21] <happyfr0gg> Ben64, Here is the output for "cat /etc/apt/sources.list etc/apt/sources.list.d/*list" --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9929759/
[04:23] <Bashing-om> Grady: From a term test editor (vim ?) and comment out the source line . If when 'update' runs we casn re-enable those sources . My eyes are crossing, my brain is fuzzy and my author itis in my fingers is getting the better of me . I must cease and desist till the AM .
[04:23] <yun> Hello, I just newly installed Ubuntu on a Samsung series 9 ultrabook, but the mousepad is not working. I used xinput and it shows I have a "Virtual core XTEST pointer              	id=4	[slave  pointer  (2)]"
[04:25] <Bashing-om> Grady: The text editor 'nano' is installed in all 'buntus by default .
[04:25] <crazyhead42> Hi, I'm trying to set up a print-to-file printer. Unfortunatly, this doesn't seem too normal based on what I've seen online. Any guidance?
[04:28] <reisio> crazyhead42: sure you don't just have one already?
[04:30] <Lucax> hello, is there any ubuntu software than can identify a specific language in a text and auto-delete it f.eks: "I am lucas - Ich bien lucas" auto-delete german text: ich bien lucas = I am lucas
[04:30] <happyfr0gg> Ben64, did you examine my pastebin output?
[04:30] <crazyhead42> No, but if there is one, it's not listed in "printers"
[04:31] <reisio> Lucax: you want to remove "german" from any text files?
[04:31] <Lucax> yes, for example
[04:31] <Lucax> any language
[04:32] <crazyhead42> Plus, I would like to use it from a shell so that I can use the pipe function for saving information as a print file.
[04:32] <reisio> that'd be pretty dangerous without human oversight/confirmation
[04:32] <reisio> and somewhat hard
[04:32] <reisio> Lucax: why?
[04:34] <Lucax> Because I have had a text translated into various language for me but my original english text remain in the document and now I need to manually remove it and it is quite a lot of text, if it doesnt exist easily nevermind, I will just go on manually
[04:34] <billlody> asdf
[04:38] <crazyhead42> Why would it be dangerous? what makes the risk?
[04:39] <mysupper> hello~
[04:39] <Jaybot> Hi ladies and gentlemen. Does anybody have experience with MHDDFS?   My question is about the permissions. I can't seem to apply any that get enforced by the system. I've chowned and to 755 and yet 'other' users can write and remove
[04:47] <sixyearsofdreams>  what can you guys tell me about kylin :)
[04:47] <sixyearsofdreams> chree dolla fiddy virtual ones for answers :D
[04:50] <crazyhead42> Please use #ubuntu-offtopic if it's not an ubuntu or linux question.
[04:51] <sixyearsofdreams> really? u kidin mate? ;d
[04:53] <crazyhead42> No. Some of us here have serious questions. I'm trying to get help to make a print-to-file printer, Jaybot is trying to get help with something called MHDDFS, and Yun all the way up there is having issues trying to get her mousepad's driver working.
[04:54] <crazyhead42> Of course there are other off-topic and general discussion chat rooms, but this is a help forum, not one of those.
[04:55] <sixyearsofdreams> right right oki
[04:55] <sixyearsofdreams> sorry mate ill take it offtopics :)
[04:55] <sixyearsofdreams> pretty dead tonight surprisinglee ;d yall takin a nap
[04:57] <crazyhead42> Not all that suprising. If no one has the answers, no one really speaks up.
[05:11] <Nixus> anyone getting glx rendering error on steam? I'm on 14.10
[05:11] <darkbeast> hey
[05:15] <crazyhead42> Hi. You know anything about setting up printers?
[05:15] <crazyhead42> Like print-to-file printers which the computer didn't actually come with?
[05:27] <crazyhead42> Is there anyone on who can help me, or shall I go to bed?
[05:27] <restart_pro_> In terminal same like *.txt is used ... how can I get strings with "ae" in them e.g raetfl  aefla  sdfae
[05:27] <crazyhead42> What?
[05:28] <crazyhead42> Restart, can yo explain that? I may have gone over the solution in my textbook today, but I can't quite tell
[05:33] <milamber> !ask | crazyhead42
[05:34] <restart_pro_> crazyhead42:  I mean say I want to pass somethings as arguements
[05:34] <restart_pro_> like all files with a string in the name
[05:34] <restart_pro_> instead of beginning with or ending with
[05:35] <crazyhead42> Hmm... I think you could use a pattern, then pipe it into a function of some sort.
[05:36] <crazyhead42> You'd need to use some wildcard characters...
[05:36] <restart_pro_> I know but  do you know the wildcard?
[05:37] <crazyhead42> Hold on, I saw a list in here somewhere
[05:40] <milamber> restart_pro_: find can use regular expressions
[05:40] <restart_pro_> would *ae* work?
[05:41] <crazyhead42> I don't think I'm seeing my refrence list, sorry.
[05:42] <restart_pro_> its simply *ae*
[05:42] <milamber> restart_pro_: you have to escape the *
[05:43] <restart_pro_> escape?
[05:43] <milamber> restart_pro_: http://content.hccfl.edu/pollock/unix/findcmd.htm
[05:44] <restart_pro_> ok
[05:45] <milamber> restart_pro_: so something like: find . -name \*ae\*
[05:45] <milamber> restart_pro_: would search the current directory
[05:46] <milamber> restart_pro_: i would avoid doing system wide searches as they may take a bit
[05:46] <milamber> crazyhead42: what printer issues are you having?
[05:47] <crazyhead42> Trying to set up a print-to-file system so that I can use a pipe to record all my stuff. Like $ gnome-terminal | lpr
[05:47] <crazyhead42> I've gotten it somewhat set up, but I haven't gotten the most important part figured out
[05:50] <crazyhead42> If you're hoping I'm going to be more specific, I have six terminals open and the GUI controlls out all at the same time, so I'd need to know what it is you'd want to know.
[05:51] <milamber> crazyhead42: are you trying to record terminal sessions?
[05:51] <milamber> crazyhead42: or do you really just need to print things from the command line?
[05:51] <crazyhead42> Sort of yes, but I'm going about it in a wierd way.
[05:52] <crazyhead42> ALthough, I should have a command line printing system set up so my outputs look good for class
[05:52] <milamber> crazyhead42: it would be best if you could explain your use case
[05:52] <porfa> hello… when instaling certain aplications i get alot of “ xulrunner-1.9.2 and edbrowse” errors… i googled alot but cant see to find a way to fix this
[05:53] <crazyhead42> Let's take it to a private chat, because this is going to get LONG.
[05:55] <milamber> crazyhead42: on-list would be better, if there is going to be a wall of text you can use !pastebin
[05:56] <milamber> crazyhead42: it allows more eyes to see it and makes sure i don't give you bunk advice
[05:56] <milamber> !pastebin
[05:56] <crazyhead42> It's WAY more complicated than pastebin. FIVE walls of texts.
[05:56] <crazyhead42> I tend to make things complicated when I'm on my own...
[05:57] <milamber> crazyhead42: give me a three sentence summary and let's see if we can work from there
[05:59] <crazyhead42> Okay. I'd like to be able to print things to a file from my command line. lpr is not yet set up, so I figured I'd configure that print to go strait to a file. There dosn't seem to be any preset printers on my device, so I figured I'd just make one. That turned out to be way over my head, however I did get a bit of work done. I'll send you that part.
[05:59] <milamber> !details | porfa
[06:01] <milamber> crazyhead42: if you are trying to record command line sessions, you want to look for something called script. if you are trying to print other types of files, you want to set up cups-pdf as a lpr available printer, let me see if i can find a quick guide on the google
[06:01] <crazyhead42> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9931058/ and I said we should probably go to a private chat...I am not a simple person.
[06:02] <crazyhead42> Does it have to be PDF? Those are NOT fun.
[06:04] <pradeep12345> hey friends i need help yesterday i installed ubuntu dual boot with windows 8.1 after one one update my nm-applet missing cannot see in top of the panel
[06:04] <pradeep12345> 14.04
[06:05] <milamber> crazyhead42: you still haven't stated what you are trying to print or why
[06:08] <crazyhead42> At the moment it's the terminal output (to see if it would work), but I think I'm mostly going to be needing to "print" text outputs for my class using lpr.
[06:09] <crazyhead42> It would also be nice to pipe listlike outputs through lpr to save them to a file to look at later.
[06:12] <crazyhead42> Have I overcomplicated your night?
[06:13] <milamber> crazyhead42: not really, but again your use case isn't specific. looking at your pastebin it seems like you want to do this at the command line: echo "whateveryouwant" > filename.txt
[06:14] <milamber> crazyhead42: if you want to see what commands you have typed, they are stored in a file already, it is named: .bash_history
[06:14] <crazyhead42> Will that create the text file, or do I need to make the text file exist?
[06:15] <crazyhead42> And I'd question the history move because of having five (I had six earlier) terminals up
[06:15] <milamber> crazyhead42: that will create the text file. and if you need to record everything that happens with inputs/outputs, script is what you want
[06:15] <crazyhead42> What exactly is script?
[06:16] <crazyhead42> My book mentions it, but doesn't go into it very deeply
[06:17] <pradeep12345> please help me how can i add network manager on the panel? using ubuntu 14.04
[06:17] <milamber> crazyhead42: http://www.aboutlinux.info/2005/11/script-command-to-record-everything.html
[06:19] <crazyhead42> Is this instance specific, or will it record everything in every terminal I use?
[06:20] <milamber> crazyhead42: it is instance specific, you have to start it by typing: script <filetorecordto>
[06:20] <milamber> crazyhead42: then you do what you need to record, then type exit and it will write everything to <filetorecordto>
[06:21] <crazyhead42> Okay, so if I use that at the start of a terminal, it will record only the instances in that terminal, so I can pull up the manual in another terminal and run other tasks without adding the unnessasary stuff to the log.
[06:21] <milamber> crazyhead42: correct
[06:23] <crazyhead42> That will have to do for now then.
[06:23] <milamber> crazyhead42: what other feature(s) do you need?
[06:24] <evgeniy> аналог qip и mail есть на ubuntu?
[06:24] <chintito> scriminal :  when i power on my pc , it shows "end_request I/O erro" how can  i get rid of this?
[06:25] <crazyhead42> I would like to be able to set up a print file (for delayed printing as I am working from a laptop and not always connected to a printer) so that I could print out my stuff when I do get access to an actual printer.
[06:26] <milamber> crazyhead42: do you only have access to the cli?
[06:26] <crazyhead42> cli?
[06:27] <milamber> crazyhead42: sorry, do you only have access to the command line?
[06:27] <crazyhead42> Command line and GUI, root privliges on the VM it's running on, questionable controll over my full computer.
[06:28] <crazyhead42> !sl evgeniy
[06:28] <crazyhead42> !sl
[06:29] <milamber> crazyhead42: ok, you can install cups-pdf which will create a pdf printer for you. you can open any text file in gedit and print to pdf. you can do the same with web pages and everything.
[06:29] <crazyhead42> !ru
[06:29] <crazyhead42> ... PDF is the only universal avalible, isn't it?
[06:30] <chintito> alex_:  when i power on , it shows 'end_request I/O error ' how can i get rid of it?
[06:30] <milamber> crazyhead42: this is the part where you lose me. the txt logs you create will be printable from gedit directly to a printer when it is connected. in my opinion, the only viable long term storage format for text is pdf.
[06:31] <AlexStraunoff> crazyhead42: pdf is one of the few things that'll look exactly the same everywhere on and off screen
[06:31] <crazyhead42> Yes, but I have a long, agonizing history with PDFs. *sigh*. I guess I'll take it, but I WILL find a better way one day.
[06:32] <j_t> How can I get a list of available security update packages from apt-get on trusty/precise?
[06:32] <j_t> eg, things that haven't been installed yet
[06:33] <milamber> crazyhead42: i'm still not sure what the issue is. the files will still be there when you connect to a printer, so if you don't want to print to pdf you never have to. if you are talking about saving web pages or other things for later printing you can still save the html/source and print from a browser later.
[06:33] <j_t> /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable
[06:34] <j_t> I know I can do that on trusty, but not precise
[06:38] <Agrajag-> g'day, i'm trying to install ubuntu server trusty however during the install it halts on the dbus package. when i switch to the syslog view, i can see it's telling me about a configuration file change with the standard Y/D/N/I options - but only in the text based style, not in the installer gui - so it can't get past that
[06:38] <Agrajag-> any workarounds for this?
[06:39] <chintito> "end_request I/O errror" how can be solved?
[06:39] <Agrajag-> chintito: probably a bad disk
[06:40] <milamber> Agrajag-: the network install is text-based if that is what you are looking for, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[06:40] <chintito> Agrajag: you r right, but my hdd is not so old, it has 43 bad sector , it is 500 GB
[06:41] <Agrajag-> milamber: i'd rather not do a network install. i just want to get past the dpkg configuration file prompt (which isn't being shown to me in the installer)
[06:42] <Agrajag-> chintito: well if it's raid, replace the disk and rebuild. if it's not, rebuild from backups with a new disk. if you don't have backups, try ddrescue
[06:42] <milamber> Agrajag-: can you post the log? and which version of ubuntu?
[06:44] <Agrajag-> no i'm offsite now. 14.04.1-server. it's the dbus package, it's claiming the configuration file has changed since first install (which is a bit ridiculous since this is the first install)
[06:44] <Neo9> How to fix GHOST Vulnerability in Ubuntu 12.x  Google keyword: CVE-2015-0235
[06:44] <Agrajag-> i'm guessing it's installing a security update or something after the first install
[06:44] <Stanley00> Neo9: simply update your system, fix available now
[06:45] <milamber> Agrajag-: you may want to double check your image, i am fairly certain the server image uses the text-based installer
[06:46] <Agrajag-> yes, it is the text based installer
[06:46] <Neo9> Stanley00: But we have to see version control.  we have to cross check weather updating version supports existing system or not..?
[06:46] <Agrajag-> i'm talking sometimes you get the ncurses based selection with what to do about a configuration file conflict
[06:46] <Agrajag-> and sometimesy ou get a plain text based one. in teh syslog tail console i can see the text based one being presented
[06:46] <Neo9> Stanley00: is there any other way like updating specific package?
[06:47] <Agrajag-> but in the installer it just gets stuck on the installing dbus package
[06:47] <Neo9> How to fix GHOST Vulnerability in Ubuntu 12.x  Google keyword: CVE-2015-0235
[06:47] <Agrajag-> no ncurses gui options there
[06:47] <xangua> Neo9: install updates as you were told
[06:48] <Stanley00> Neo9: ... and look at here, please http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2485-1/
[06:49] <Ben64> Neo9: you really should update ALL packages, there are likely other vulnerabilities that have been patched
[06:49] <Kuki> hi , can i ask something?
[06:49] <xangua> Neo9: please specify what ubuntu release you use, there is no 12.x
[06:49] <Ben64> Kuki: if it is about ubuntu support, yes
[06:49] <Agrajag-> Kuki: no. but you just did. so now we have a problem.
[06:50] <Kuki> im wondering if i can make everything larger on my tv ,when its 1080p , or is it hardware? ubu 14.04
[06:50] <Kuki> letters are too small ,
[06:50] <Neo9> Stanley00: ubuntu precise 12.4
[06:50] <Stanley00> Kuki: what do you mean by larger? there's zoom in ability, but I'm not sure if it's what you want.
[06:51] <mgedmin> Kuki, you can ask for larger text (it's an accessibility option somewhere)
[06:51] <mgedmin> Kuki, you can specify a lower resolution (720p instead of 1080p), that'll make everything larger (and fuzzier)
[06:51] <Stanley00> Kuki: yep, that's accessibility... my poor English :(
[06:51] <Kuki> ok , thanks , ill stick to 720p
[06:52] <mgedmin> it's under System Preferences -> Display, IIRC
[06:52] <Stanley00> Neo9: so, you have been given the answer, and include my link. So update or read that url please :3
[06:53] <Neo9> stanley00: I am reading it
[06:54] <ginux> Hello everyone
[06:58] <Neo9> Stanley00: 2.15-0ubuntu10.9 available in repositories instead update version 2.15-0ubuntu10.10
[06:59] <Stanley00> !info precise glibc
[06:59] <Neo9> Stanley00: libc6 is updated version installed in the system i.e. libc6     2.15-0ubuntu10.9
[06:59] <Stanley00> !info precise libc6
[06:59] <Neo9> Stanley00: looks like updated version 2.15-0ubuntu10.10 not available in the repository.
[06:59] <milamber> !info glibc precise
[07:00] <Guest48340> hello!!
[07:00] <Neo9> Stanley00: how to install updated version instead  "apt-get update <pkg > "
[07:00] <Stanley00> !info libc6 precise
[07:01] <Hose> how do i chat!!
[07:01] <Hose> ?
[07:01] <Stanley00> Neo9: looks like your argument is invalid :P maybe you need apt-get update first :3
[07:01] <cfhowlett> !ask | Hose,
[07:02] <Neo9> Stanley00: thanks to correct me. Let me check.
[07:02] <Hose> Thank you ubottu!! Im new to the operating system was just exploring!!
[07:03] <Neo9> Stanley00: thanks. it's working fine.
[07:03] <Stanley00> Neo9: welcome :3
[07:05] <Flannel> Neo9: to update a package to its latest in the repositories, the command is "apt-get install package" (even if the package is already installed, yes)
[07:05] <shambat> I've just created an upstart job. how can I make sure it starts at boot?
[07:05] <Neo9> Flannel: Agree.
[07:05] <mgedmin> shambat, you could reboot and see if it was started; or you could inspect the 'start on' stanza and hope you got it right
[07:06] <mgedmin> (not much hope required if it's the same as some other job that you know is starting on boot) ;)
[07:07] <shambat> mgedmin: https://bpaste.net/show/518f8e4f21e2  should this do it?
[07:08] <mgedmin> shambat, yes, although I'd probably change the stop line to "stop on runlevel [!2345]"
[07:08] <mgedmin> if in doubt, test in a virtual machine (vagrant is handy for those)
[07:09] <mgedmin> oh look, upstream docs suggest more or less exactly what you have there: http://uwsgi-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/Upstart.html
[07:09] <mgedmin> I looked at /etc/init/cron.conf for an example and that's where I stole the stop with [!...]; either should work really
[07:11] <shambat> yeah I followed the uwsgi guide, but wasnt sure what the upstart syntax meant, thank you!
[07:31] <ripthejacker> Hi every, I
[07:31] <ripthejacker> I added a lot of ppa overtime and my repositories are totally screwed up.
[07:31] <xangua> !ppa-purge
[07:31] <ripthejacker> How do I reset the repositories and start from scratch.
[07:34] <ripthejacker> xangua, I want to remove all ppa and just start with the default ones.
[07:34] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[07:35] <xangua> Does that implies you want to go back to the official packages ? ripthejacker
[07:35] <Stanley00> ripthejacker: try here http://askubuntu.com/questions/307/how-can-ppas-be-removed
[07:42] <Corvette> I need help with my drives. Partition tables are screwy. gnome-disks won't let me format the drive from Ubuntu live disk
[07:43] <Dark_> Hey
[07:44] <ripthejacker> xangua, yes go back to official packages
[07:45] <ripthejacker> xangua, Stanley00 : basically apt-get update is giving a lot of errors.
[07:46] <Stanley00> ripthejacker: can you pastebin all the error messages?
[07:47] <mahdi_ja> is there and idea for installing clips 6.3 on ubuntu
[07:48] <mun> hi
[07:49] <mun> i'm trying to compile this library but i keep getting an error saying 'fatal error: socket.h: No such file or directory' does anyone know which package i'm missing?
[07:49] <Stanley00> !info clips
[07:49] <Stanley00> mahdi_ja: what's your ubuntu version? it said 6.24 above
[07:50] <mahdi_ja> Stanley00, 14.04
[07:50] <Stanley00> !info clips trusty
[07:50] <mahdi_ja> Stanley00, yes but i need 6.3 version
[07:51] <mgedmin> mun, wow, there are a bunch of different headers all named socket.h in ubuntu: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=socket.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=trusty&arch=any
[07:51] <mgedmin> mun, what's the library you're building?
[07:51] <mun> mgedmin: opentracker
[07:52] <mun> mgedmin: the thing is, it already has #include <sys/socket.h>
[07:52] <DocPlatypus> just upgraded to 14.04 not too long ago. on every login I have to do a "pkill indicator" to get all of my notification icons to show up properly (tomboy and solaar at least, and for a while even my network connection icon). how to fix this permanently so I don't have to do this workaround?
[07:52] <mun> but it  has another line #include "socket.h"
[07:52] <mgedmin> mun, it needs libowfat-dev
[07:52] <DocPlatypus> this is a Gnome Flashback session, btw... the only one I can stand
[07:52] <mgedmin> mun, the page I linked has this: /usr/include/socket.h	libowfat-dev
[07:52] <Stanley00> mahdi_ja: is there any special need? You can choose package version to install in Ubuntu, if you're lucky, 6.3 is still in repos, but sadly I don't know how to do that actually, using synaptic can make it easier, let me check if 6.3 is in repo first
[07:52] <mgedmin> mun, and https://erdgeist.org/arts/software/opentracker/ mentions libowfat
[07:52] <mun> oh indeed!
[07:53] <mun> it's running now
[07:53] <mun> mgedmin: thanks so much
[07:53] <mun> mgedmin: indeed.. argh.. i missed that bit
[07:53] <theunixfreak> hai, i have a thinkpad, and it has a hard drive protection feature called active protection system (hdaps) this currently only works on windows. Does anybody here know the effectiveness of this feature, ie. is it safe to use the laptop on linux without this system? i frequently take the laptop out with me, and work on it, placing it on my laps
[07:53] <ripthejacker> Stanley00, xangua : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9932238/
[07:55] <xangua> ripthejacker: please upgrade or fresh install a supported ubuntu release
[07:55] <DocPlatypus> theunixfreak: http://samiux.blogspot.com/2011/07/howto-lenovo-active-protection-system.html -- found with a Google search on: hard drive active protection system ubuntu
[07:56] <ripthejacker> xangua, isn't there a fix keeping the current version of ubuntu.
[07:56] <xangua> !13.10 | ripthejacker
[07:56] <theunixfreak> DocPlatypus: that only works on older thinkpad modules, and still they turn off the hdd during vibrations reducing the hdd life
[07:56] <DocPlatypus> theunixfreak: you could always replace the HDD with an SSD
[07:57] <Stanley00> mahdi_ja: hmm... looks like there's no clips 6.3 in the repos. So your best bet is looking for a ppa or build it from source
[07:57] <DocPlatypus> bleh
[07:57] <Stanley00> !13.04 | ripthejacker
[07:57] <xangua> ripthejacker: the fix is to use a supported OS
[07:57] <ripthejacker> xangua, Yeah that's fine I don't want any updates, I just want it to work as it was.
[07:57] <ripthejacker> xangua, ok
[07:58] <Ben64> ripthejacker: you're running a system that hasn't had a security update in over a YEAR. you need to upgrade. your system is vulnerable
[07:58] <Stanley00> ripthejacker: there's backport, or so, for eol release, but you just can install software, but no more update/fix bug, so you should consider upgrade your system
[07:58] <cfhowlett> ripthejacker, or don't ... and learn the hard way
[08:01] <ripthejacker> cfhowlett, Stanley00 , xangua, Ben64 thanks, I'll upgrade my distro then. :)
[08:01] <DocPlatypus> so nobody knows the workaround to fix half-working notification tray
[08:01] <DocPlatypus> ?
[08:02] <cfhowlett> ripthejacker, you'll rest easier.
[08:02] <DocPlatypus> err something more permanent than having to "pkill indicator" every login
[08:02] <ripthejacker> :) ok
[08:02] <DocPlatypus> ripthejacker: if you really do not want to upgrade every 6 months or so you, stick to LTS releases
[08:02] <DocPlatypus> like 14.04
[08:03] <DocPlatypus> err you should*
[08:03] <ripthejacker> Yeah I'm planning for that.
[08:03] <cfhowlett> ripthejacker, what he said.  LTS only is SO much more peaceful.
[08:04] <DocPlatypus> cfhowlett: I used to dread upgrades until I just stuck with 12.04 LTS, then upgraded just recently to 14.04 LTS. only this one minor quirk remains
[08:04] <cfhowlett> DocPlatypus, LTS only since 10.04.   I wait for the first point release so >> 14.04.1
[08:05] <DocPlatypus> cfhowlett: I "just happened" to upgrade long after the first point release. on 16.04 I will probably upgrade before first point release
[08:06] <DocPlatypus> (when that gets here, that is)
[08:08] <cultavix> good morning guys, anyone else having problems with multiple monitors and ubuntu 14.04 ?
[08:08] <cultavix> Both of my displays are being detected as one and mirroring them
[08:08] <DocPlatypus> cultavix: sort of. this "nettop" has some kind of phantom LVDS1 display, i.e. it thinks it is a laptop
[08:08] <Stanley00> cultavix: hmm... change it in Display setting then :3
[08:08] <DocPlatypus> I had to disable that with a kernel switch, and since then no problems
[08:09] <cultavix> so
[08:09] <cultavix> I can't disable anything or do anything in the display settings
[08:10] <cultavix> when I run xrandr I get just the info for the one display and my laptop's display (the laptop is closed)
[08:10] <cultavix> but it's displaying the exact same thing on both screens
[08:10] <cultavix> DocPlatypus, which kernel switch?
[08:11] <theadmin> cultavix: Are you using proprietary drivers? The proprietary NVidia drivers were giving me a similar issue with multiple screens, whereas the open-source ones seemed to have no problem.
[08:16] <cultavix> theadmin, i'm using just the basic intel driver as it's a laptop that has no dedicated graphics card
[08:16] <cultavix> it's a dell ultrabook, e7440
[08:17] <theadmin> Ah. That's pretty odd then, Intel has good Linux support
[08:17] <cultavix> the only thing I can think of is that the problem could be with the docking station?
[08:18] <cultavix> but I've run Ubuntu on this same setup in the past and it has worked fine... so not sure why it would be a problem
[08:32] <deep> hi
[08:32] <cultavix> any ideas?
[08:50] <deep> hi
[08:51] <deep> sudo command not recognizable outside home dir and sudo apt is giving  command not found error
[08:51] <deep> can anyone help
[08:51] <mgedmin> sure
[08:52] <mgedmin> can you explain the "outside home dir" bit?
[08:52] <mgedmin> and can you tell us what the following two comands print: "which sudo", "which apt"
 if i go to any dir except home i get error
[08:52] <cultavix> guys I found someone with the exact same laptop, docking station and running ubuntu, with the multi-monitor problem. Solutions here: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/node/358
[08:52] <cultavix> thanks for your help
[08:52] <deep> command not found
[08:53] <mgedmin> which: command not found?  wow, what does 'echo $PATH' say?
[08:54] <deep>  sudo apt -get -f install
[08:55] <deep> error i get is - sudo: apt: command not found
[08:55] <mgedmin> the command is "sudo apt-get -f install", no space between "apt" and "-get"
[08:56] <mgedmin> (more recent versions of ubuntu also have a command named 'apt', but older ones only have 'apt-get')
[08:58] <cultavix> can anyone help with the step 1d on this page? What should I be putting in place of "kernel-image" and "kernel-headers" https://01.org/linuxgraphics/node/358
[08:58] <cultavix> running the command as is doesn't do anything
[08:58] <cultavix> it should be creating a deb package
[09:00] <cultavix> or should I be running make-kpkg rather than make -kpkg? Ohhh
 Thanks a tonn !
[09:01] <kokut> Hello, for some reason Xorg process is using a lot of resources, what can i do?
[09:02] <genericum> i have problem with the dbus sytem http://dpaste.com/0DGNFGZ
[09:03] <genericum> s
[09:09] <pa> hi
[09:10] <pa> is 12.10 vulnerable to GHost?
[09:10] <Stanley00> !12.10 | pa
[09:11] <mgedmin> pa: TL;DR - yes; ghost and probably many other vulnerabilities (that's what "support ended" means)
[09:12] <Pricey> pa: Upgrade now!
 command ran but i wasnt able to install chrome with the command on ubuntu ..can u pls help
[09:14] <mgedmin> deep, why not use the Software Center?
[09:14] <pa> mgedmin, but is ghost exploitable via sshd?
[09:15] <deep> i dont see chrome in that centre
[09:15] <deep> so i installed deb file from web
[09:17] <mgedmin> pa: there's no *known* exploit for ssh via ghost, but it's best to upgrade to be safe
[09:19] <pa> thanks
 i dont see chrome in the centre hence installed the deb file from web
[09:22] <somsip> deep: this is an easy way to get Chrome installed: http://www.howopensource.com/2011/10/install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-11-10-11-04-10-10-10-04/
[09:22] <cocoa117> is there a way to allow official CD to get its preseeding file on a server (web or TFTP), so i can do unattended CD installtion. I am using 14.04
[09:22] <rrr> what does this mean from top? "846 root      20   0 2178396 211316  13308 S  0.3 20.2   6:46.75 java"
[09:23] <mgedmin> rrr, top shows a header at the top, with short names for all the columns
[09:23] <mgedmin> which column seems unclear to you?
[09:23] <CtrlC> Hi there, do I have to still use bumbleebe? I heard new versions of kernel can handle those kind of graphic stuff.
[09:24] <CtrlC> I don't know if that's true.
[09:30] <aditya> 有成都的朋友没？
[09:30] <somsip> !zh | aditya
[09:30] <DJones> !cn | aditya
[09:31] <aditya> ？？？？
[09:31] <aditya> !ch |first time login!!
[09:34] <CtrlC> !ir
[09:39] <CtrlC> So I should still use bumblebee?
[09:46] <samgrb> hello, on the web there are many different instructions on how to install ubuntu on the samsung chromebook (model xe303c12)
[09:46] <samgrb> not sure which to follow
[09:50] <samgrb> (if i disappear it's the battery)
[09:50] <rrr> is there memory leak here? from top "846 root      20   0 2178396 211316  13308 S  0.3 20.2   6:46.75 java"
[09:51] <rrr> it seems java uses >2G virtual mem and 211M mem
[09:51] <brothersome> rrr - HERE is no memory leak, it is your program
[09:52] <samgrb> anybody here manage to get ubuntu working on the samsung xe303c12 chromebook?
[09:52] <rrr> brothersome: why does it take so much memory?
[09:52] <samgrb> help please :)
[09:53] <samgrb> i am afraid to make a mess...
[09:56] <junka> i have created a hotspot with networkmanager, how can i review the users who are connected?
[10:06] <genericum> is there an easy way to prevent stuff like tetravex or gnome-robots from beeing installed ? i don't want to delete them every time i do some updates
[10:12] <junka> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qlTEPjkOlY
[10:12] <junka> OMG POOR DOGGIE :<
[10:12] <junka> oh wrong channel
[10:16] <katarina> ghjkl
[10:17] <theadmin> genericum: They are probably pulled in by some metapackage you have installed.
[10:18] <theadmin> genericum: Probably ubuntu-desktop or somesuch. Remove that and they should stop being pulled in
[10:18] <genericum> theadmin: i tried using dselect
[10:18] <theadmin> I dunno what that is
[10:18] <genericum> but so many (unneeded) dependencies
[10:18] <usuario> hi
[10:19] <genericum> how can i alter them ?
[10:20] <theadmin> genericum: Just remove ubuntu-desktop (or xubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop or whatever derivative you may be using), or whatever package pulled them in
[10:21] <genericum> theadmin: i want to kick out more than that ..
[10:21] <genericum> theadmin: for example i'd wanna use qt5 but so many packets rely on qt4
[10:22] <theadmin> genericum: Yes, but they need Qt 4 to run because they are made with Qt4
[10:22] <theadmin> They won't be able to run with Qt5 unless recompiled properly (and rewritten because there's some difference in how headers work)
[10:22] <theadmin> So, you need qt4 if you want to use them
[10:22] <genericum> theadmin: isnt't there a qt-5 ready desktop ?
[10:23] <theadmin> genericum: I have no idea.
[10:23] <theadmin> KDE is the most popular Qt environment
[10:23] <theadmin> But I'm not sure which version of Qt they use
[10:23] <genericum> theadmin: but tell me how do i alter the dependencies ?
[10:23] <genericum> theadmin: in case you know ?
[10:24] <genericum> theadmin: http://dpaste.com/0DGNFGZ is another problem
[10:24] <theadmin> genericum: The approach I use is the "equivs" tool. It allows to create your own packages easily. Usually packages created by equivs are empty. So you just create your own package for the dependency you need to satisfy, leave it empty and it's done
[10:25] <O_OniGiri> Hi there, I know that this is an ubuntu channel but I am just wondering... How can I make the window resize margin bigger? I mean... when I hover with my mouse over the edge of the windows, I have to be really accurate to resize the window. Is there a way to make this margin bigger?
[10:25] <genericum> theadmin: will thake a look but i don't wanna edit every *.deb that i use :(
[10:25] <O_OniGiri> Btw... I am using xubuntu
[10:26] <theadmin> genericum: You are most likely doing something wrong then, and also, if you edit the dependencies of a package it won't magically make the package work without those dependencies
[10:26] <theadmin> The only use in altering them is when the dependencies are wrong in the first place
[10:27] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: you can press alt+f8 to resize
[10:27] <genericum> theadmin: i just want to prevent usless packets to be pulled in
[10:27] <OpenTokix> Anyone else seen change in interface naming within 14.04 versions?
[10:27] <OpenTokix> I have some that have tradition ethX and some that get emX pXpY
[10:27] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: Thanks :D
[10:28] <OpenTokix> All 14.04 version of ubuntu, but different point releases
[10:28] <bazhang> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/kde-plasma-5-released genericum
[10:28] <O_OniGiri> I have another question, sometimes on startup my sound isnt working. So then I have to reboot, but there should be another way right?
[10:28] <bazhang> genericum, keep in mind thats PPA, which are at your own risk
[10:29] <EriC^^> O_OniGiri: another way would be to press alt + rightandleft mouse button, then you can resize with the mouse as usual
[10:29] <genericum> bazhang: nice thing but i am looking for a way to change dependency trees
[10:29] <O_OniGiri> EriC^^: thanks for being so helpfuul :)
[10:30] <bazhang> genericum, vivid, the next release also seems to have the qt5 plasma desktop, two months from now
[10:32] <theadmin> Three, no? Two would be March
[10:32] <bazhang> two days til february..
[10:32] <theadmin> Ubuntu releases are usually closer to the end of month I think.
[10:33] <bazhang> at any rate, using vivid in x months time, or a PPA would be way preferable to something like "changing the dependency tree"
[10:34] <theadmin> genericum: And yes, qt4 packages won't work without qt4 even if you set qt5 as a dependency
[10:34] <theadmin> Since they are linked against Qt4 libraries. You'd need to rewrite their code for that to work...
[10:35] <genericum> theadmin: backwards compatibility to Heeell
[10:35] <genericum> theadmin: but still there must be a way to alter dependencies !
[10:35] <bazhang> genericum, not in this case
[10:35] <theadmin> genericum: equivs is the only way that works with APT sanely.
[10:35] <theadmin> Anything else is likely to give you a ton of trouble.
[10:36] <bazhang> and not something to even consider, honestly
[10:36] <genericum> ive tried /etc/apt/preferences
[10:36] <theadmin> genericum: Well, you can "hold" packages in APT yes, but that will make those packages that depend on the ones you held impossible to install...
[10:37] <genericum> thing is with dbus problems .. i feel like removing quite a lot and then reinstall
[10:37] <genericum> but
[10:37] <genericum> it would be fine if i could prevent packets i dont want ahead of that
[10:45] <M4r3nz-Work> Greetings. I am currently making a small package that installs a library. Given that a library exists in it's main version and several links to it, I am confused about whether I should create the link without any versions, e.g. for libary test, I install libtest.so.1.2.3, but what about the link libtest.so? Do I create that? That link is usually required when you want to link with the library, thus I wonder...
[10:46] <genericum> link it .. works usually
[10:46] <M4r3nz-Work> genericum, what about an earlier version of libtest.1.2.2 that also created that link?
[10:46] <sec_> anyone know guide for setup openvpn server?
[10:46] <sec_> easy guide*
[10:47] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN sec_
[10:48] <sec_> bazhang: it's client only
[10:49] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN sec_
[10:49] <kqr> I have no idea where to ask so I'll start here. I run a command with nohup but it doesn't background the process. if I manually background the process with ctrl-z it stops responding to network requests – is this normal?
[10:52] <abailarri> Hello. I created an upstart service for node.js and when I run it I see this: elaide2 stop/pre-start, process 2628 Anyone knows whats means this?
[10:57] <kqr> ah never mind, I was using nohup wrong. thanks anyway!
[11:05] <santhosh> hai
[11:23] <linux_gamer> how to rollback the latest update cause it messed my nvidia-driver?
[11:24] <jeffshanab> I am trying to install lubuntu on a zotac zbox EI750. It boots off of usb for the install and makes it thru the entire install but when i try to boot off of HD it just gives me a black screen with a flashing cursor.  I can't get to a grub screen and the install disk does not offer a prompt. Is this Secure Boot issue or could it be that I am using a SSD
[11:25] <genericum> linux_gamer: just install the driver you like by using apt-get install nvidia-33x
[11:25] <genericum> linux_gamer: perhaps purge the new one first ..
[11:26] <linux_gamer> im using the xedgers and some other non standard so i try to rollback and install step by step cause dozens of packages did change
[11:27] <bazhang> with ppa-purge?
[11:27] <sec_> bazhang: hi pm pls?
[11:27] <santhosh> how to install puppet server with screen shots
[11:27] <bazhang> sec_, keep it here please
[11:27] <Blejdfist> Has anyone tried 14.10 on the new Asus Zenbook UX305? The splash screen is shown perfectly for about a second and then the screen is blanked (backlight on). Any known workarounds?
[11:27] <santhosh> iu anty body any links just send to me
[11:28] <genericum> blejdfist: did you try waiting for a little longer ?
[11:29] <Blejdfist> genericum: yes, i can hear the sound of the login screen, but no picture
[11:29] <Blejdfist> if I switch to a terminal i can see the login prompt for a second and then it blanks again
[11:29] <ikonia> santhosh: you don't need a screen shot for puppet servers
[11:29] <ikonia> santhosh: it's only a few commands
[11:30] <linux_gamer> Blejdfist,  i have the same problem
[11:30] <Blejdfist> linux_gamer: same laptop too?
[11:30] <linux_gamer> MSI GE70
[11:30] <genericum> Blejdfist: could be that acpi drivers turn the screen down ..
[11:30] <linux_gamer> yesterday i did updates http://paste.ubuntu.com/9935140/
 i installed 14.04 in asus
[11:31] <Blejdfist> genericum: i tried setting acpi=off on the kernel cmdline to no avail
[11:31] <chebit> Someone know which version of nautilus come with 14.04.1 ?
[11:31] <nomic> screen saver?
[11:31] <nomic> power settings?
[11:31] <santhosh> hai i want install ssh server in all my system how to install using puppet serevr
[11:31] <linux_gamer> and when i rebootet this night i cant login (sound is there)
[11:31] <chebit> I am having many problems with my 14.10
[11:31] <ikonia> santhosh: you need a puppet class that includes an install function
[11:31] <nomic> turn the power settings off - the power management - in settings - turn off the "power managemnt" Blejdfist if you can
[11:32] <nomic> because the power management may be operating the screen
[11:32] <santhosh> can u tell me the class i dont know how to work on it
[11:32] <ikonia> santhosh: there are many classes available on sites such as puppetforge
[11:33] <nomic> Blejdfist the screen blanking is probably software = screen saver (less likely), or power management fading the screen (more likely)
[11:33] <linux_gamer> Blejdfist, are you using Xedgers?
[11:33] <Blejdfist> linux_gamer: no
[11:33] <Blejdfist> this is even before X starts
[11:33] <nomic> check if well it
[11:33] <nomic> then its not even booting
[11:33] <linux_gamer> got the same prob the screen gets almost directly off after loading screen
[11:34] <Blejdfist> it is booting, i can hear the sound after a while, and I can login using SSH
[11:35] <linux_gamer> Blejdfist, everything is working normal till the loadingscrenn vanishes but instead of ligin screen it gets dark and you herar the login sound?
[11:35] <Blejdfist> no, the loadingscreen gets blank as well
[11:36] <Blejdfist> I can see the splash for half a second
[11:36] <linux_gamer> i mean ubuntu and the dots
[11:37] <shuman> Blejdfist: can you see anything after pressing  CTRL+F1 (CTRL+F7 to get back to X)?
[11:37] <Blejdfist> I have a LUKS encrypted drive, so it stays at the password prompt for the drive first, then it blanks. But I can type in the password without seeing anything and then I can hear that it boots to lightdm
[11:37] <Blejdfist> shuman: yes, I see the console for half a second and then it goes blank again
[11:37] <Blejdfist> once, after I try that i can't get the console again
[11:39] <linux_gamer> @all nobody knows how to rollback the update http://paste.ubuntu.com/9935140/ ?
[11:40] <linux_gamer> im pretty sure its possible and i did it some time ago but it seems not to be in history anymore
[11:40] <Blejdfist> I i let the screen go to sleep (turn completely off) and then touch a key the screen wakes up and everything looks ok again for half a second and then it blanks
[11:40] <Blejdfist> So it really seems to me like some "feature" is misbehaving
[11:41] <linux_gamer> that should be an easy fix if it is just some how powersavings related
[11:42] <Kenjiro> good morning/afternoon/evening
[11:44] <sopparus> is packet defrag on or off default on ubuntu?
[11:45] <bazhang> !defrag | sopparus
[11:45] <theadmin> Link ded
[11:45] <sopparus> bazhang, tcp packet fragments, not filesystem
[11:46] <linux_gamer> Blejdfist, found a solution?
[11:46] <Blejdfist> no
[11:47] <linux_gamer> there must be a way to stop display power off at any time when pc is running
[11:48] <Blejdfist> the power is still on, the backlight is active, there's just no picture
[11:48] <linux_gamer> would be a bad fix but it would probably wor till an update
[11:49] <linux_gamer> ok im pretty sure the power goes off, then i change to console it is working ok but changing back just shows prompt
[11:50] <MortezaE> Hi. When using minimal CDs to install from net, will packages be cached in /car/cache/apt/archive ?
[11:50] <shuman> linux_gamer: are you using gdm? if so, then try sudo service gdm restart in console :)
[11:50] <linux_gamer> i thnk its lightdm
[11:51] <shuman> ok, so same command but with lightdm
[11:51] <linux_gamer> sudo service lightdm start/stop ill try it
[11:53] <shuman> & ?
[11:54] <ArshiaAghaei> Does anyone have a sources.list Code ??
[11:54] <linux_gamer> Blejdfist, can you compare your update hist to mine posted before so we might have the same package ther
[11:54] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: for which release?
[11:54] <Blejdfist> linux_gamer: it's a clean install
[11:54] <Blejdfist> 14.10
[11:54] <ArshiaAghaei> EriC^^: 14.04 LTS
[11:55] <linux_gamer> ah ok did you have automated updates on?
[11:55] <linux_gamer> or are u using the CD only
[11:55] <Blejdfist> I got the laptop yesterday, installed from a USB-stick
[11:56] <linux_gamer> mh if you can afford you can reinstall with no internet conncetion if used before?
[11:56] <Blejdfist> i didn't have the updates while installing active
[11:56] <linux_gamer> installed before 10 in the morning german time?
[11:57] <linux_gamer> thats strang
[11:57] <linux_gamer> is there something /var/log/apt/history.log?
[11:58] <Kenjiro> guys, I am having an annoying problem trying to upgrade an Ubuntu server from 12.04 to 14.04. Yesterday I upgrade one server from 11.10 to 13.10, then to 14.04 without problems. But then this one (12.04) won't work.
[11:58] <Kenjiro> I get the following message everytime I try: http://pastebin.com/mTFnxzAz
[11:59] <Blejdfist> linux_gamer: I didn't install anything for this to happen, it was like this from the start
[11:59] <cfhowlett_> Kenjiro, software setting > update manager > advise of LTS release only
[11:59] <Blejdfist> linux_gamer: I have an Intel HD graphics card, and my guess is that there is a bug in the kernel intel framebuffer driver since this happens before X even starts
[12:00] <EriC^^> ArshiaAghaei: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9935628/
[12:00] <Kenjiro> first I had "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" in sources.list. Then I read it could be something a mirror not up to date. So I changed sources.list to get the closest mirror. It does... but I get the same error :(
[12:00] <Kenjiro> cfhowlett_: it is an Ubuntu Server, so no Xorg running
[12:01] <Kenjiro> but yes, my /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades has "Prompt=lts"
[12:02] <linux_gamer> Blejdfist, ok my intel seems to be working good wih the old kernel, so it is another problem, you can try to install nvidia-driver if card and circumvent ntel issues
[12:02] <Blejdfist> i don't have an nvidia card
[12:03] <linux_gamer> ati or no dedicated?
[12:03] <Blejdfist> nope
[12:04] <linux_gamer> mh maybe you reinstall with updates on maybe that bug was fixed in the time
[12:05] <Blejdfist> linux_gamer: i have tried logging in using ssh and upgrading, didn't help unfortunately :(
[12:05] <linux_gamer> or you just dont use graphical interface, even videos are playable in console
[12:06] <linux_gamer> im off
[12:20] <AlexPortable> How  can I install gnome session fallback and virtualbox-guest-x11 on 14.10 ?
[12:20] <AlexPortable> it can't find my packages
[12:21] <AlexPortable> nvm i had to enable it in software repo
[12:22] <cfhowlett_> AlexPortable, gnome session fallback isn't a package
[12:22] <AlexPortable> it is now
[12:22] <marjinal1st> Is there a standart (or convention) for Ubuntu applications' structure? For example I'm developing a basic indicator app, how should I create the package structure? (I mean foldering -> src, data, po etc.)
[12:22] <cage> you guy's know if libre calc comments show up in excel?
[12:25] <hateball> cage: Would depend on filetype and versions and so on. #libreoffice might know more
[12:25] <leeyaa> hello
[12:25] <leeyaa> could you suggest how to easily check if there are packages that need to be updated (security related) and print the number ?
[12:25] <theadmin> cage: Yes. Excel now supports the OpenDocument format that LibreOffice uses completely. And if you save as .xls/.xlsx, even older versions of Excel will be able to read the file.
[12:25] <theadmin> Comments are a fairly basic feature so it should be well-supported even in alien filetypes.
[12:26] <theadmin> cage: If you want, make a file in LibreOffice Calc with a comment, and then transfer it to me (if your IRC client supports file transfer, or use some file hosting service and PM me the link)
[12:26] <theadmin> I'll open it in Excel and check
[12:27] <cage> I trust you theadmin :)
[12:28] <cage> I have W8 with office on dualboot
[12:28] <theadmin> Ah, alright.
[12:28] <cage> but it would probably load updated for 30mins :P
[12:28] <cage> libre writer files even in .doc don't open well in word though ;/
[12:29] <cage> pictures are always really bad
[12:30] <Kenjiro>  /part #ubuntu
[12:30] <theadmin> cage: True enough, it's sad. I find that saving as .docx helps though.
[12:30] <theadmin> Or, you can just save as .odt, Office supports it now and it's the native format for LibreOffice. But, people will only be able to open it with Office 2013 for now :/
[12:31] <cage> yeah
[12:31] <cage> then there's web office word, but it doesn't seem to support pictures
[12:32] <cage> or it does
[12:32] <santhosh> web office word means abiword
[12:33] <cage> no it's microsoft's
[12:33] <theadmin> cage: Depends on which web office you mean, but all web office suites are currently... well... to use an appropriate word, bad.
[12:33] <cage> word online is the real name I guess
[12:33] <theadmin> It may support pictures... But it doesn't support some other stuff that I find pretty essential myself, for example, formulas, styles...
[12:33] <cage> should abiword files open correctly in ms word?
[12:34] <theadmin> cage: I have no idea what format AbiWord uses, but I doubt it
[12:34] <santhosh> but cpmaring documents is not opening in abiword means comapre documets strick out word are not dispaly in abiword
[12:36] <cage> okay
[12:36] <ArshiaAghaei> How to access to sources.list ???
[12:37] <cfhowlett> ArshiaAghaei, more /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:37] <santhosh> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:41] <santhosh> is there any centos webchat site
[12:46] <santhosh> clear
[12:47] <trick2g> has anyone used rsync before
[12:47] <santhosh> yes
[12:47] <santhosh> in centos
[12:47] <k1l> !ask | trick2g
[12:48] <trick2g> i'm trying to sync files between two servers, but it isn't working
[12:48] <trick2g> sudo rsync -azP username@myhost.com:/home/qxozgi5mb60g/sitename.org/b/src /home/ac4rv4fh6n/sitename.org/b/src
[12:48] <trick2g> i tiried that command
[12:48] <trick2g> lots of files are still missing - what's the problem
[12:48] <tomodachi> trick2g:  -r for recursive, or it will skipp all folders
[12:48] <trick2g> there is no folders it's all images
[12:49] <tomodachi> trick2g:  also if the user you connect with in the remote name , does not have permission to read the images he cant ofc copy them
[12:49] <trick2g> i do have permission.
[12:49] <tomodachi> trick2g: use -v for verbose to see more info what happens
[12:49] <trick2g> i can view/list the images in the folder
[12:50] <santhosh> sudo rsync  -azvv -e ssh /home/path/folder1/ remoteuser@remotehost.remotedomain:/home/path/folder2
[12:50] <santhosh> pls do this command
[12:50] <santhosh> do u have ans ssh conncetion before on that
[12:52] <trick2g> santhosh: it's running
[12:53] <santhosh> ok
[12:54] <trick2g> ran but didn't work
[12:54] <leeyaa> guys how to fix this error: debconf
[12:54] <trick2g> total: matches=174929  hash_hits=174929  false_alarms=0 data=496126477
[12:54] <trick2g> sent 490293555 bytes  received 1075502 bytes  5255284.03 bytes/sec
[12:54] <trick2g> total size is 989753982  speedup is 2.01
[12:54] <trick2g> yet images are still missing
[12:54] <leeyaa> sorry i mean this: E: Cannot get debconf version. Is debconf installed?
[12:55] <santhosh> u use dirsync tool it is graphical tool
[12:55] <trick2g> it's synced them backwards...
[12:55] <trick2g> i wanted files on the remote server synced to my local one
[12:56] <santhosh> but rsync run perfect manner is there any permission issue
[12:58] <leeyaa> anyone ?
[12:58] <santhosh>  <leeyaa> what is the problem
[12:59] <k1l> leeyaa: please give exact informations about ubuntu in use, program used, copy eror messages, the whole thing not just one word or one line" into a pastebin
[13:00] <santhosh> apt-get --reintsall install libgcc1
[13:00] <santhosh> to debconf
[13:00] <leeyaa> k1l: nvm i fixed it with sudo dpkg -i --force all /var/cache/apt/archives/libgcc1_1%3a4.9.1-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[13:01] <leeyaa> santhosh: reinstall didnt work, i was not able to install anything
[13:01] <leeyaa> i wonder how it got borked
[13:03] <leeyaa> is there a way to print the number of security packages that need to be upgrade ?
[13:03] <leeyaa> upgraded*
[13:05] <Ben64> leeyaa: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will tell you, and if you hit Y, install them
[13:06] <leeyaa> Ben64: i would like to use it in a bash script. any non interactive way ?
[13:06] <mgedmin> ubuntu's update-motd lists the numbers of regular and security updates separately
[13:06] <Ben64> why does the number matter?
[13:06] <mgedmin> you might want to see how that's implemented
[13:06] <leeyaa> mgedmin: other than motd any other option ?
[13:07] <santhosh> hai
[13:07] <leeyaa> ah you mean to check how motd does it
[13:08] <mgedmin> leeyaa, it uses this Python script: /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check
[13:08] <mgedmin> in fact you could just run it; it outputs two numbers, separated by a semicolon: number_of_updates;number_of_security_updates
[13:08] <mgedmin> (the first number is always >= the second, AFAIU)
[13:09] <santhosh> yesthe above comand is showing in security updates
[13:09] <leeyaa> yeah that might work
[13:09] <leeyaa> i dont have it on all systems though
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:10] <mgedmin> leeyaa, what's your goal?
[13:10] <leeyaa> mgedmin: check which servers need to be updated, how many packages and send me a report
[13:11] <Blejdfist> fixed my display problem: needed a newer drm-intel driver, used the one available here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-intel-next/current/
[13:11] <santhosh> we have an upgraded option oin graphical mode can u fing that one also
[13:11] <mgedmin> what will you use to access all the servers?  fabric?  manual loop that ssh's everywhere?
[13:11] <nethunter_> hi
[13:12] <mgedmin> leeyaa, in case you're interested I rely on a cron script to send me email notifying me about available updates -- well, used to, before I started enabling unattended-upgrades everywhere
[13:12] <mgedmin> leeyaa, I packaged my cron script into a deb for my own convenience: https://github.com/mgedmin/apt-checkupdates
[13:12] <leeyaa> mgedmin: i do have ssh. something like update-notifier will work great. i just dont have it everywhere
[13:12] <leeyaa> mgedmin: isnt it risky with cron ?
[13:12] <leeyaa> i mean unatented mode
[13:13] <mgedmin> if something breaks, then yeah
[13:13] <mgedmin> but so far nothing has ever broken
[13:13] <leeyaa> how would you know if something breaks rofl
[13:13] <leeyaa> well it will happen once, when you dont expect it
[13:13] <mgedmin> :)
[13:13] <leeyaa> i have it enabled on stage clusers
[13:13] <leeyaa> but i dont think it is a good idea to enable it on pruduction ;p
[13:14] <leeyaa> production*
[13:14] <mgedmin> the breaking point for me was updates not getting installed because I didn't want to restart postgresql in the middle of the day
[13:14] <leeyaa> yes, so far nothing ever got broken
[13:14] <mgedmin> and I kept forgetting to do that after work hours
[13:14] <santhosh> hai leeyaa how to enable the cluseter pls send the link
[13:15] <leeyaa> santhosh: i have no idea what are you asking
[13:15] <santhosh> did u deploy the clusters in between 2 servers how to do it
[13:16] <leeyaa> mgedmin: use something like master-master with corosync/pacemaker and you can restart anything anytime you want ;p
[13:16] <leeyaa> santhosh: it is a multiple server setup. 5-10 and more per cluster
[13:17] <mgedmin> I'd love to
[13:17] <mgedmin> the budget's not there :(
[13:17] <leeyaa> mgedmin: that seems like will do the job for now : https://github.com/mgedmin/apt-checkupdates
[13:17] <leeyaa> thanks
[13:17] <mgedmin> lots of small (cheap) clients that don't actually require five-nines availability
[13:18] <mgedmin> it'd be nice to delay production upgrades until the staging server reports a successful health check after a successful unattended upgrade
[13:18] <mgedmin> hmmm
[13:18] <Laurenceb> hi
[13:19] <Laurenceb> I have a problem with http_proxy
[13:19] <Laurenceb> I no longer use a proxy, but it is still set each time I open command window
[13:19] <Laurenceb> I cant find where it is set from, can anyone help?
[13:19] <NoOova> how internally works ssh key passphrase?
[13:19] <mgedmin> Laurenceb, where was it initially set?
[13:19] <leeyaa> Laurenceb: check /etc/environment and your bash profile
[13:20] <Laurenceb> leeyaa: I've checked everywhere
[13:20] <Laurenceb> what should the files be?
[13:20] <mgedmin> Laurenceb, if you used to set it in your .profile and then removed it, you'll need to log out before the change takes effect for all newly-started applications
[13:20] <Laurenceb> where is .profile?
[13:20] <mgedmin> let's back up a bit
[13:20] <mgedmin> on a fresh install the http proxy is not set
[13:20] <mgedmin> you (or somebody else) must've done something to set it
[13:21] <Laurenceb> sure
[13:21] <santhosh> it is hidden fil
[13:21] <mgedmin> do you know what it was?  (or who did it?)
[13:21] <Laurenceb> ah its not in .profile
[13:21] <Laurenceb> it was my network admin lol
[13:21] <santhosh> the profile is used for startup applications(may be)
[13:22] <Laurenceb> ok
[13:22] <Laurenceb> well I just unset it anyway
[13:22] <Laurenceb> but i still get 403 from wget etc
[13:23] <Laurenceb> wait no
[13:23] <Laurenceb> wget works, git clone fails
[13:23] <Rasta> How can I install nvidia proprietary open gl non sse2 driver?
[13:23] <Rasta> OPen Arena seriously lags on my old PC
[13:23] <cfhowlett> Rasta, as it does on every PC
 use wine to install
[13:25] <cfhowlett> santhosh, that makes no sense.  open arena is linux based.  Why wine?
[13:25] <Danielc1234> Can a GUI be installed to work with a browser that is NOT on the actual server? We have a ubuntu server that we need to have GUI control via another desktop via the internet.
[13:25] <santhosh> sorry i think it is game in that i told to use wine
[13:25] <leeyaa> Danielc1234: you can use rdp
[13:26] <leeyaa> although i dont know why would anyone need gui
[13:26] <Rasta> I think Nouveau might be the problem
[13:27] <Danielc1234> leeyaa we have a ERM software that when setting up seems to want to use a GUI for installation. That is the only reason.
[13:27] <cfhowlett> !info openarena
[13:27] <leeyaa> does old ubuntu versions get affected by this GHOST CVE ?
[13:27] <leeyaa> like ubuntu 6 and ubuntu 8 ?
[13:27] <leeyaa> Danielc1234: i think you can use rdp (remote desktop)
[13:28] <santhosh> no u can use xrdp
[13:28] <santhosh> or vnc in browser module
[13:28] <DJones> leeyaa: Possibly, but as they're end of life and no longer supported, fixes wouldn't be released anyway.  If anybody was using those releases, they should upgrade as soon as possible because there would be countless other security fixes that won't have been fixed for end of life releases
[13:30] <leeyaa> DJones: they are pretty basic servers (web, db, pptpd etc). running for years now and we dont plan to upgrade them for now. is it possible to check if they are affected? i mean i know glibc can be affected but what are the services affected by this except maybe dns servers ?
[13:30] <leeyaa> how does this cve work
[13:31] <leeyaa> for example, we did not need to patch them for shellshock
[13:31] <leeyaa> maybe this case is similar
[13:31] <k1l> leeyaa: there are that much other security issues out there you should not mind GHOST only. i strongly suggest you make a upgrade plan. 14.04 got 5 years support
[13:31] <k1l> so you would not worry until 2019
[13:31] <leeyaa> k1l: its not my call
[13:32] <leeyaa> i only need to check if they are affected or not by this particular cve
[13:32] <DJones> leeyaa: This may help http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/cve-2015-0235-patch-ghost-on-debian-ubuntu-fedora-centos-rhel-linux/ It gives details of a way to test
[13:33] <leeyaa> DJones: yeah i saw that.
[13:33] <leeyaa> however, if almost all services are behind a strict firewall and only ports 80, 443 and dns are open will the servers still be vulnerable ?
[13:33] <DJones> leeyaa: I think I saw somebody mentioned using that yesterday, but its not something I've got experience of
[13:33] <leeyaa> i dont understand how this exploit works
[13:34] <k1l> leeyaa: if the ports are open they are open.
[13:34] <leeyaa> k1l: are web servers affected though ?
[13:35] <KingOfOOP> Can anyone tell me how to solve Install button is not visible in Software Center Problem ?????
[13:35] <mgedmin> this is a problem: if you're not making use of canonical's security team's services (by using releases supported by them), it's up to you to do the necessary security research and review
[13:35] <k1l> leeyaa: a firewall doesnt make you safe against that.
[13:35] <mgedmin> and if you're not qualified, well
 that means u did not update u r system u update ur ssytem then it will appear
[13:36] <KingOfOOP> santhosh: I did it before...
[13:36] <mgedmin> estimate business risk and potential loss, then talk to the people who're not allowing you to upgrade
[13:36] <KingOfOOP> santhosh: At the time i installed UBuntu
[13:36] <leeyaa> mgedmin: it is complicated. 90% of the services are on 14.04 and we have some old ones that we dont want to upgrade, because clients dont want to upgrade to new version of the product (which cant run on any other OS except ubuntu 6)
[13:36] <KingOfOOP> UBuntu --> Ubuntu
[13:36] <santhosh> what version u used
[13:36] <k1l> leeyaa: there are ton of security breaches, shellshock, ghost, etc are just the famous on. look at http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/ what there is on a daily basis
[13:36] <KingOfOOP> santhosh: 14.04 LTS
[13:36] <leeyaa> the person who is responsible to take the risk gets the call
[13:37] <mgedmin> I know it's complicated.  I had one client who's running their production server on ubuntu 11.10 or 13.04 or something silly like that :/
[13:37] <santhosh> did u update throw software manager or command mode
[13:37] <leeyaa> mgedmin: well i guess ill just ignore it and not bother with eol then
[13:37] <leeyaa> not my responsibility anyway
[13:37] <KingOfOOP> Yes , by the sudo apt-get update Command.
[13:37] <k1l> leeyaa: so if you dont get security updates from the security team (they got a team for that on ubuntu not one worker who looks from time to time) you need to do a ton of work on your own.
[13:38] <leeyaa> k1l: i know. sometimes im forced to patch stuff on my own
[13:38] <santhosh> in dash board button update manger use that one
[13:38] <k1l> leeyaa: "sometimes" is way to less. there are more security issues for servers than the last 3 famous ones shellshock, ghost and such
[13:39] <KingOfOOP> santhosh: See the previous answer
[13:39] <leeyaa> k1l: i tried to explain that many times ;p oh well, anyway
[13:39] <santhosh>  Yes , by the sudo apt-get update Command it is  command mode u did it in graphical mode now
[13:41] <linux_gamer> once again Timeshift saved my ***
[13:41] <freeroute> hi, who is the maintainer of chromium-browser for 12.04? According to 'aptitude show chromium-browser' it's Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com> - but I'm sure there is only or a couple of people in charge of chromium-browser specifically.
[13:41] <phre4k> lol, "Comcast – simulate common network problems" (https://github.com/tylertreat/Comcast) – TooFastNet from yesterday could've used this :D
[13:41] <freeroute> heh
[13:41] <Rasta> I'm having following instructions on this: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#squeeze-173xx
[13:41] <Rasta> trouble*
[13:42] <k1l> phre4k: #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[13:42] <Rasta> Add "contrib" and "non-free" components to /etc/apt/sources.list, for example:
[13:42] <Rasta> # Debian 7 "Wheezy"
[13:42] <Rasta> deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
[13:42] <k1l> Rasta: are you on debian?
[13:42] <Rasta> what does that mean?
[13:42] <Rasta> yes sir
[13:42] <k1l> Rasta: #debian then please
[13:42] <phre4k> ^
[13:43] <freeroute> !precise
[13:43] <freeroute> ah so it's still supported
[13:44] <mgedmin> even !lucid is
[13:44] <mgedmin> !lucid
[13:44] <KingOfOOP> Can anyone tell me how to solve Install button is not visible in Software Center Problem ?????
[13:44] <freeroute> mgedmin: really? "Desktop support ended May 9 2013."
[13:45] <trijntje> KingOfOOP: can you post a screenshot of the problem?
[13:45] <mgedmin> I still have three lucid _servers_ in production
[13:45] <freeroute> why not upgrade?
[13:45] <KingOfOOP> trijntje: How to send the Screenshot ??
[13:45] <linux_gamer> never change a running system?
[13:45] <mgedmin> in short, I'm a terrible sysadmin
[13:45] <trijntje> !paste
[13:45] <mgedmin> and fear is a bad thing
[13:45] <freeroute> indeed
[13:45] <freeroute> my freenas server is still delayed
[13:46] <KingOfOOP> mgedmin: I don't see this ability in Ubuntu pastebin.
[13:46] <freeroute> that's where I wanted to put my backups on, so now I have to wait for upgrading to 14.04
[13:46] <santhosh> http://askubuntu.com/questions/90734/install-button-in-software-center-is-disabled
[13:46] <ppf> hi
[13:46] <ppf> i have a zombie process that is still consuming cpu and is immortal against kill (-9)
[13:46] <ppf> what can i do about that?
[13:47] <santhosh> use the pkill process name
[13:47] <jatt> what do you get with kill -9
[13:47] <freeroute> linux_gamer: if you can't change upgrade production systems, that means that redundancy is not configured properly. Something I'm also working on currently.
[13:47] <ppf> jatt: nothing, kill -9 fails silently
[13:48] <mgedmin> interesting: usually processes that can't be killed are in noninterruptible sleep (and thus shouldn't be using any cpu)
[13:48] <linux_gamer> want to speak a big Thanks to the devs of Timeshift works great
[13:48] <ppf> yes, and ps even lists it in Z state
[13:49] <mgedmin> zombies can't possibly eat any cpu -- the process itself is dead, it's just an entry in the kernel process table, waiting for the parent to call wait() so it can learn the exit status
[13:50] <ppf> mgedmin: i know
[13:50] <Rasta> to which components do i add 'contrib non free"
[13:50] <jatt> can you pastebin the output of ps aux | grep yourprocess?
[13:50] <KingOfOOP> mgedmin: How to add the screenshot to pastebin ??
[13:50] <ppf> nevertheless 30123 98.2  0.0      0     0 ?        Zl   13:27  81:26 [gimp-2.9] <defunct>
[13:50] <mgedmin> KingOfOOP, upload it to http://imgur.com
[13:50] <mgedmin> then paste the link
[13:51] <KingOfOOP> mgedmin: http://imgur.com/9JH360x
[13:51] <mgedmin> ppf, bug in ps perhaps?  do any other tools show cpu usage?
[13:51] <jatt> and ps -l | grep yourprocess?
[13:52] <jatt> your ps is showing 98.2% cpu usage
[13:52] <mgedmin> KingOfOOP, that's a screenshot all right.  why are you showing me this?
[13:52] <ppf> jatt: ps -l doesn't show that process
[13:52] <KingOfOOP> There is no Install button on the app
[13:52] <jatt> sorry, ps -el
[13:52] <ppf> mgedmin: top lists it as well
[13:52] <KingOfOOP> @mgedmin
[13:53] <mgedmin> KingOfOOP, oooh, right!  strange.  I've no idea why!
[13:53] <jatt> with ps -el you can tell where is wating
[13:53] <ppf> 0 Z  1015 30123     1 98  80   0 -     0 exit   ?        01:24:56 gimp-2.9

[13:53] <jatt> is waiting on exit
[13:53] <ppf> yep
[13:53] <KingOfOOP> mgedmin: I even edited the sources.list ...
[13:53] <ppf> ps auxf show that there is also a child process
[13:53] <ppf> 0 Z  1015 30132 30123  0  80   0 -     0 exit   ?        00:00:00 script-fu <defunct>
[13:53] <mgedmin> ppf, http://superuser.com/questions/388565/zombie-process-using-100-cpu
[13:54] <jatt> i see probably only reboot will help
[13:55] <ppf> i'll reboot and see if it happens again
[13:56] <ppf> fwiw, i think fglrx crashed or something
[13:56] <mgedmin> ppf, before you do that, check dmesg for strange messages
[13:56] <mgedmin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30891/is-there-any-way-to-kill-a-zombie-process-without-reboot is another situation with a zombie eating cpu
[13:57] <mgedmin> must be something the kernel does on behalf of the now-dead process
[13:57] <ppf> mgedmin: too late, it's already going down :)
[13:57] <santhosh> use pkill process name
[13:57] <mgedmin> well, dmesg is normally piped to /var/log/kern.log
[13:57] <mgedmin> you might find something interesting there, maybe
[14:01] <ppf> i think the general source of the fault is easy to predict, students of mine are using the machine to test opencl gpu implementations of image filters
[14:01] <ppf> so there's three very robust(!!1) compontents interacting: opencl, fglrx and students
[14:02] <ppf> i'm assuming fglrx crashed somewhere down the road
[14:02] <ppf> kern.log shows me a ton of segfaults inside libopencl and gegl
[14:03] <beardsir> Hello
[14:04] <walter_> walter
[14:04] <jatt> fglrx is the proprietary amd driver? could you use the open source one?
[14:04] <beardsir> Would anyone be interested in helping out a noob?
[14:05] <somsip> !ask | beardsir
[14:05] <yeahbabe> how can i write a bunch of newlines to a file without using a lot of characters
[14:05] <jatt> sed
[14:05] <mgedmin> yeahbabe, how many newlines?
[14:05] <yeahbabe> mgedmin: 20 maybe
[14:05] <beardsir> thanks somsip
[14:06] <mgedmin> yeahbabe, one way would be: for i in $(seq 20); do echo >> yourfile.txt; done
[14:06] <ppf> what kind of a requirement is "without using a lot of characters"
[14:06] <beardsir> When I type a command in terminal (such as openvpn), the service starts, but the terminal is then unuseful until I break out of that command. How can I stop that from happening?
[14:07] <mgedmin> beardsir, you can send the running command to the background by pressing ctrl-z (which pauses it), then running 'bg', then running 'disown' (so it own't get killed when you close the terminal window)
[14:07] <mgedmin> you can skip the first two steps if you append an & after the command when you run it, e.g. openvpn &
[14:07] <yeahbabe> mgedmin: any shorter way?
[14:08] <beardsir> mgedmin, thanks bud!
[14:08] <ppf> yeahbabe: printf '\n%.0s' {1..20} >> yourfile.txt
[14:08] <mgedmin> yeahbabe, vi filename.txt +'norm G20o<esc>ZZ'
[14:08] <beardsir> so then the next question would be, how do I kill that process once it's started and running in the bg
[14:09] <ppf> if you didn't disown, jobs shows you all backgrounded processes
[14:09] <ppf> fg <n> brings the n-th job to the foreground
[14:09] <yeahbabe> ppf: thanks it works!
[14:09] <beardsir> ppf thanks!
[14:09] <cvillegas> hi ppl
[14:09] <mgedmin> beardsir, find the process id using ps aux (or top, or System Monitor), then kill 1234 (where 1234 == the pid you found)
[14:09] <yeahbabe> mgedmin: thanks i need it for a script though
[14:10] <cvillegas> Im having some weird problem with my ubuntu
[14:10] <mgedmin> ppf's version is neat and elegant (and probably requires bash for the {1..n} range expansion)
[14:10] <beardsir> yes, elegant. I like elegant. Main reason I'm moving to *nix
[14:11] <cvillegas> can anyone help me with a network problem?
[14:11] <yeahbabe> mgedmin: i need it portable to sh good point
[14:12] <mgedmin> $(seq 20) can replace {1..20}
[14:12] <yeahbabe> mgedmin: great thanks!
[14:12] <ielo> hey, i keep trying toupdate scipy but get this error under latest version of ubuntu, can anyone help http://pastebin.com/MpAypzQm
[14:12] <sopparus> seq isnt recommended anymore
[14:12] <sopparus> its going away
[14:13] <mgedmin> sopparus, what's the recommended replacement?
[14:13] <sopparus> {1..20} ;)
[14:13] <sopparus> dont know with sh
[14:13] <mgedmin> {1..20} isn't posix and dash doesn't support it
[14:14] <sopparus> for (( i=start; i<=end; i++ ));
[14:15] <mgedmin> seq isn't posix either, neat
[14:18] <Giwrgaras> hi, i've got a dual boot pc. If i install ubuntu again is there an option in the install menu to use the entire partitioned hard drive only for ubuntu?
[14:20] <cfhowlett> Giwrgaras, no need to reinstall.  get an ubuntu USB.  fire up gparted.  delete windows partitions.  expand ubuntu partitions into the freed space.
[14:20] <user123> Hi
[14:20] <user123> Anybody knows how to login to root account on ubuntu 14.04.1?
[14:21] <user123> ubuntu 14.04.1 tips not working..
[14:21] <user123> ubuntu 14.04 tips not working..
[14:21] <cfhowlett> !root | user123
[14:23] <user123> thanks :)
[14:23] <Giwrgaras> cfhowlett: i want to reinstall also to free up space
[14:23] <k1l> user123: in short: you dont do that on ubuntu
[14:23] <cfhowlett> Giwrgaras, you do NOT need to reinstall.
[14:24] <user123> why?
[14:24] <cfhowlett> Giwrgaras, but if you want to ... go for it.
[14:24] <k1l> user123: why do you need that?
[14:24] <beardsir> I edited .conkyrc. and saved it in home directory, but when I kill conky and restart it, it's still the same defaults. What gives?
[14:24] <user123> I'm build ffmpeg on ubuntu
[14:24] <spitzi> Hi. My HP Zbook runs Ubuntu 14. The laptop is equipped with a fingerprint reader, how do I enable login with the reader?
[14:24] <cfhowlett> user123, sudo.  NOT root!
[14:24] <k1l> user123: ubuntu is setup to not loginto the root account. you go as user all the time and just use sudo if a command needs root permissions.
[14:24] <user123> always download source on git
[14:25] <k1l> user123: still no need for a root account then.
[14:25] <user123> oh.. thats so tiresome...
[14:25] <cfhowlett> spitzi, so far as I know, linux doesn't support biometric readers
[14:25] <spitzi> Eh? Isn't this long overdue?
[14:25] <Pici> cfhowlett: sure it does.
[14:25] <cfhowlett> Pici, I stand corrected??? got a link?
[14:25] <Giwrgaras> cfhowlett:  any other option besides the USB? i dont have one
[14:26] <Giwrgaras> ive got the dvd allready 14.04 version
[14:26] <user123> I need always edit ffmpeg source but always permission changed after download on git
[14:26] <user123> for edit ffmpeg source, always permission change to 777
[14:26] <user123> thats so terrible
[14:27] <spitzi> Pici: ?
[14:27] <cfhowlett> Giwrgaras, how did you plan to reinstall then?
[14:27] <r0073r> :)
[14:28] <Pici> spitzi, cfhowlett: This would be a good place to start: https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint
[14:28] <Pici> spitzi: Note that the last time I tried this, it was back with 10.04 (I think) and it ended up mostly working.  I don't have that laptop anymore though.
[14:29] <UltimateNate> How come ubuntu only gave me 1 horrible resolution size? I'm using VirtualBox
[14:29] <Giwrgaras> i would like to do that with the dvd that i have. The ubuntu installer
[14:29] <jnhghy> I have a program that runs in xterm and that should be able to print a text/pdf file but it's not able to print, I assume it makes a shell command for print, is there a way to monitor if a specific program issues a shell command?
[14:29] <cfhowlett> spitzi, created 2010 and no updates since???
[14:29] <k1l> UltimateNate: install geust additions
[14:29] <Pici> cfhowlett: The fprint ppa has packages built in 2014
[14:30] <cfhowlett> Pici, good to know.  Thank you!
[14:30] <beardsir> I edited .conkyrc. and saved it in home directory, but when I kill conky and restart it, it's still the same defaults. What gives?
[14:31] <lnb> how can i get functionality of typing last couple of letters of a previous command and press tab for completion of the command last ran?
[14:32] <lnb> instead of having to press up or down arrow keys until that command is found
[14:32] <lnb> or typing history to find it
[14:32] <k1l> lnb: ctrl+r
[14:33] <lnb> ctrl+r doesnt do anything in non root
[14:33] <k1l> lnb: what?
[14:33] <lnb> ctrl+r doesnt do anything as non root
[14:33] <k1l> lnb: what ubuntu is that exactly? what shell?
[14:33] <jatt> ctrl keep it pressed while pressing r
[14:34] <lnb> 12.04
[14:34] <mgedmin> lnb, I also love this suggestion for making pageup do a prefix search in history: http://dqxtech.net/blog/2011-03-06/linux-bash-history-pgup-pgdown
[14:34] <spitzi> cfhowlett: 2010? What?
[14:34] <lnb> in freebsd its standard to type 2 letters, press tab and there it is
[14:34] <cfhowlett> spitzi, I must have read the page wrong.  nvrmnd
[14:35] <k1l> lnb: this is not freebsd. its ubuntu which uses dash for the standardshell
[14:35] <Pici> k1l: You mean bash.
[14:35] <jnhghy> I have a program that runs in xterm and that should be able to print a text/pdf file but it's not able to print, I assume it makes a shell command for print, is there a way to monitor if a specific program issues a shell command?
[14:35] <lnb> dash?
[14:35] <lnb> anyway, ctr+r as root = (reverse-i-search)`':
[14:35] <lnb> as non root =
[14:36] <Pici> bash is the default $SHELL, /bin/sh is a symlink to dash though.
[14:36] <k1l> lnb: that works for non root too. you must have a different setup
[14:36] <k1l> Pici: ah right. /bin/sh was dash
[14:36] <lnb> SHELL=/usr/bin/tcsh
[14:37] <k1l> lnb: so you are using another shell then. see if that shell offers you something like reverse search
[14:37] <lnb> i was hoping using tcsh would give me the freebsd type of key strokes for somethings
[14:37] <lnb> it doesnt
[14:37] <lnb> i just pasted
[14:37] <lnb> kind of hard to paste nothing :)
[14:38] <KlausedSource> Hello, i am having a AA-C80 rev1.1 with linaro lubuntu running on it. My problem is that it doen't recognize my usb3.0 harddrives
 "dmesg | grep USB" says it registered the xhci-hcd bus and assigned a number, but nothing more
 i am a little lost, where is the kernel located? can i make menuconfig it?
[14:38] <KlausedSource> or anything else that i could do?
[14:38] <jatt> lsussb
[14:38] <jatt> lsusb
[14:38] <jatt> lsusb -v
[14:38] <jatt> pastebin it
[14:39] <KlausedSource> jatt, lsusb shows the generic hub but no device
[14:39] <lnb> perhaps what i mean is:  programmable word completion (see Completion and listing)
[14:39] <jatt> ? should also show the devices connected to the bus
[14:40] <KlausedSource> jatt, yes for my keyboard it does. but not for the harddrives(tried 2 different vendors)
[14:40] <TJ-> KlausedSource: check "/var/log/dmesg", look especially at PCI device allocations, to ensure the host's USB controller(s) have been correctly found
[14:40] <Pici> lnb: zsh has a lot of advanced completion stuff, you may want to look into using that?
[14:41] <lnb> it says: Commands  and  variables  can  be  completed  in  much  the same way.  For example, typing
[14:41] <lnb>        `em[tab]' would complete `em' to `emacs' if emacs were the only  command  on  your  system
[14:41] <lnb>  beginning with `em'.
[14:41] <ppf> people also tell me great things about fish, but i've not tested that so far
[14:41] <ppf> anyways, tcsh should support reverse-i-search
[14:41] <lnb> ok i will chsh to zsh and give it a whirl
[14:41] <ppf> try bindkey "^R" i-search-back
[14:44] <KlausedSource> jatt, TJ- http://bpaste.net/show/3fa946869b10
[14:45] <lnb> cant change shell ?
[14:46] <mohab> hello
[14:46] <mohab> can i develop game on linux
[14:46] <jatt> yes
[14:46] <mohab> i use ubuntu os
[14:46] <cfhowlett> mohab, of course.
[14:46] <lnb> how to change shell ?
[14:46] <mohab> in c# language
[14:46] <cfhowlett> mohab, yes
[14:47] <lnb> chsh -s zsh username   you cannot change shell for ...
[14:47] <jatt> adjust /etc/passwd
[14:47] <mohab> i learn c# and i wish develop a game on linux
[14:48] <KlausedSource> jatt, TJ- since it is an ARM board there is no PCI, but /var/log/dmesg shows the registration of the xhci-hcd usb hub but no device
[14:48] <mohab> how can i do it
[14:48] <jatt> you can develop in c# in linux, see mono
[14:48] <mohab> is there a program like unity engine
[14:49] <TJ-> KlausedSource: Ahh, OK. The lsusb output seems to indicate 1 superspeed port is active. Does that match the number of physical S.S. ports?
[14:49] <cfhowlett> !develop | mohab
[14:49] <KlausedSource> TJ-, yes, there is only 1
[14:49] <KlausedSource> TJ-, micro usb SS if that matters
[14:49] <jatt> yes unity engine is written in mono see wiki
[14:49] <TJ-> KlausedSource: So the driver knows the port is there. Is the external device self-powered?
[14:50] <mohab> ok i will read about it thanx alot
[14:50] <KlausedSource> TJ-, kind of it has 2 usb: the main for data+power and another one for power. i put that power usb in another usb-hub which has an external power source
[14:52] <TJ-> KlausedSource: Hmmm... is it a USB3 hub? per-port power is 4.5W (900mA) rather than USB2's 500mA
[14:52] <KlausedSource> TJ-, no it is an usb2 hub, but it has 2 1A ports
[14:53] <TJ-> KlausedSource: OK... have you been able to test the device, powered like that, on another system, to prove it will work?
[14:53] <ppf> are you sure it was the 'power' usb which you connected to the other usb hub?
[14:53] <KlausedSource> TJ-, yes, it also works with 1 usb in my laptop
[14:53] <KlausedSource> ppf, yep
[14:54] <TJ-> KlausedSource: OK. Sounds like a hardware configuration issue then. Which specific ARM board is it? Do you have a URL to reference it?
[14:54] <KlausedSource> my second drive has only 1 micro usb SS - micro usb SS, cable and it is not recognized as well
[14:55] <KlausedSource> TJ-, yes, but don't set high hopes in documentation. there is a reason why i ask here and not in the official irc (well i asked but it seems to be dead)
[14:56] <KlausedSource> TJ-, http://cubieboard.org/model/cb4/
[15:00] <seanh> Anyone know an easy way to create a custom bootable USB image? Essentially what I want to do is make a bootable Ubuntu 12.04 USB, install some packages and files etc on it, then take an "image" that I can install onto other USBs, so I don't have to redo all the package and file installing and configuring etc each time
[15:00] <UltimateNate> k1l: Cannot locate guest additions
[15:00] <UltimateNate> erm
[15:01] <UltimateNate> Cannot locate package geust
[15:02] <Pricey> seanh: Something like kickstart for ubuntu?
[15:02] <mohab> I guess you did not get me correctly I want to learn programming games in linux by c#
[15:03] <seanh> Pricey: Yeah that sounds right
[15:03] <mohab> any one can help me
[15:03] <cfhowlett> mohab, have you learned C?
[15:03] <KlausedSource> TJ-, could you find something?
[15:03] <mohab> c#
[15:03] <mohab> yeah
[15:03] <cfhowlett> mohab, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-c-and-c-compilers-in-ubuntu-and-testing-your-first-c-and-c-program.html
[15:04] <ppf> cfhowlett: c# != C
[15:04] <ppf> mohab: i think you should take linux out of the equation and ask about how to build games with c#?
[15:04] <mohab> yeah idont need c
[15:04] <cfhowlett> ppf OK
[15:04] <mohab> ineed c#
[15:04] <seanh> Or to put it another way, I want to make a bootable USB, do a bunch of post-install modifications on it, and then "clone" it to a number of other USB drives
[15:05] <skd> hi guys
[15:05] <mohab> ok
[15:05] <Pricey> seanh: Googling around, it sounds like kickstart may in fact work with ubuntu..
[15:05] <ppf> mohab: maybe also try to google how to use opengl in mono
[15:05] <skd> i am new to this
[15:05] <KlausedSource> seanh, well you can just boot another os then and copy the contents of the usb to another
[15:05] <cfhowlett> mohab, as was suggested earlier: mono http://www.ubuntumanual.org/posts/392/how-to-do-c-and-net-programming-in-ubuntu-using-mono
[15:05] <mohab> ok
[15:05] <skd> Can anyone please guide me ?
[15:05] <ppf> anyways, that's probably not an ubuntu problem
[15:05] <cfhowlett> !ask | skd,
[15:05] <Pricey> seanh: Something like http://askubuntu.com/questions/122505/how-do-i-create-a-completely-unattended-install-of-ubuntu
[15:06] <seanh> KlausedSource: Yeah, it sounds like I can clone it with dd or clonezilla maybe
[15:06] <KlausedSource> seanh, with dd sure, is the easiest way. but you need another bootable system
[15:06] <mohab> i use mono to building small program in a c#
[15:07] <jatt> yes
[15:07] <KlausedSource> seanh, you can also create dd images under windows with win32diskimager
[15:07] <seanh> KlausedSource: No probs, I have a third bootable drive which I can boot into, then dd usb drive A to usb drive B
[15:07] <skd> where do I post a bug about ubuntu
[15:07] <mohab> thanx alot ppf
[15:07] <cfhowlett> !bug | skd
[15:08] <KlausedSource> seanh, maybe you want to save the the image somewhere as a .img first instead of directly cloning
[15:09] <seanh> KlausedSource: good idea
[15:10] <ppf> this is a bit weird and i'm not sure how to express this properly: how do i prevent the (unity?) desktop from starting?
[15:10] <beardsir> can I ask a conky related question in here as it relates to using ubuntu?
[15:11] <EriC^^> ppf: you want no lightdm?
[15:11] <EriC^^> ppf: just the tty?
[15:11] <ppf> i'm using awesome as a WM, however sometimes, when i start a ui program (some control panel or something), the desktop is loaded
[15:11] <skd> I guess you can press ctrl alt f11 and write "sudo service lightdm stop"
[15:12] <EriC^^> ppf: which programs are you starting that make it start?
[15:12] <ppf> meaning, i get the standard reddish desktop background image, and a right-click-menu for sorting and creating a new folder
[15:13] <ppf> i haven't quite figured that out
[15:15] <ppf> what's the actual process running the desktop?
[15:15] <jatt> X
[15:15] <jatt> depends on the desktop
[15:15] <ppf> with desktop i mean that thing that shows icons and folders and a background image
[15:17] <ppf> xprop tells me it's nautilus
[15:17] <TJ-> KlausedSource: working my way through the documents, but nothing so far. Am I correct in thinking connectors P5 and P5 are both dual-stacked USB ports?
[15:17] <ppf> ha, killing it gets rid of the weird extra desktop, awesome
[15:18] <ppf> i'll observe and see what's starting nautilus :)
[15:18] <KlausedSource> TJ-, yes, the devices are recognized there. as 2.0 ofc
[15:19] <codekipple_> hi all, I'm experiencing an issue when using the 14.04 vagrant cloud image
[15:19] <KlausedSource> TJ-, the SS port is valuable to me because i want to use this board as an owncloud server
[15:19] <codekipple_> i tracked it down to this issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1315501 can anybody give me some advice on this?
[15:20] <TJ-> KlausedSource: I'm not finding any documentation specific to the USB side
[15:21] <KlausedSource> TJ-, i found something mentioning the microusb (SS) in the documentation for debian-server (which i dont run) but it is only referencing other chapters which i don't understand because my chenglish is bad
[15:22] <TJ-> KlausedSource: So, according to the circuit diagram, the S.S. port is the micro-USB between the TF Card slot and USB2 P6 ?
[15:23] <djono> is there any way to install libgmp3c2? pea zip requires this dependancy im running ubuntu 14
[15:25] <KlausedSource> TJ-, yep thats right
[15:27] <jakey2> is there a way to manipulate firebird databases on unbuntu
[15:27] <jakey2> *ubuntu
[15:29] <jatt> sure
[15:29] <jatt> squirrel-sql + firebird jdbc driver
[15:30] <ElysiumNet> firebird database, that's something I haven't seen in a long time
[15:36] <cfhowlett> ElysiumNet, dammit!  now I have obiwan-kenobi's voice stuck in my brain.
[15:39] <TJ-> KlausedSource: I can't find any evidence of the USB3 port being used, either in documentation or in the forums
[15:41] <Sixxen> hello
[15:41] <Sixxen> i got a problem here
[15:41] <KlausedSource> TJ-, well the kernel is creating a root hub and the device is powered by it, but well i think i have to give up for now. early adopters remorse i guess
[15:41] <Sixxen> cant open Ubuntu-Tweak
[15:42] <KlausedSource> TJ-, i got it running on the highspeed port atleast
[15:42] <user_> hi
[15:42] <TJ-> KlausedSource: Yeah. If you can find evidence it works for others, it'd be easier to deduce there is an issue :)
[15:43] <ElysiumNet> I wish USB would stop with the marketing names. "Full Speed" "Hi-Speed", "Universal"
[15:43] <user_> linux is very difficulte
[15:44] <ElysiumNet> user_: what about it is difficult?
[15:44] <JRizzle88> hello all
[15:44] <user_> many commande line
[15:46] <fs0i> Hello guys, I am using the i3-window manager from official package sources. When I click a link - for example in a mail or in pidgin - firefox opens. I want chromium as a default browser. How do I set this correctly? I'm using Ubuntu 14.04
[15:46] <KlausedSource> TJ-, i own a CC-A80 rev1.1 i've seen they are on rev 1.3 now. but from the "changelog" i've seen it is only cosmetics atleast nothing related to the usb
[15:46] <JRizzle88> fs0i need to set chrome as default in the chrome settings
[15:46] <JRizzle88> fs0i, 3 bars on the top right of your browser should get you there in the options
[15:46] <user_> how i can install xampp to xubuntu please
[15:47] <KlausedSource> TJ-, i bought this thing 3-4 month ago and thought it would be spread around the globe by now, but well it is not
[15:47] <JRizzle88> user_ why would you want to do that?
[15:47] <user_> for create a sit with PHP
[15:48] <fs0i> "Chromium cannot determine or set the default browser."
[15:48] <JRizzle88> can host php on linux
[15:48] <JRizzle88> fs0i: try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/428943/google-chrome-cannot-determine-or-set-the-default-browser
[15:48] <bumbar_> is there any (test) repo i could get g++5 from?
[15:49] <ppf> fs0i: i've been looking for a solution to that as well, all standard approaches appear to fail
[15:49] <user_> i am trying to learn php
[15:49] <Caleb--> has anyone been experiencing laggy desktop graphics with intel gpu on 14.10?
[15:49] <ppf> gnome-www-browser & x-www-browser & whatnot
[15:49] <user_> my object is to create a site in laravel  framework
[15:49] <ppf> i uninstalled firefox and lived happily ever after
[15:49] <JRizzle88> bahaha ppf
[15:49] <JRizzle88> makes sense in a way
[15:50] <KlausedSource> guys i have another question, (i am not that much on ubuntu, but rather on gentoo so excuse the noob questions pls) when i run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and get a message "the following packages have been kept back: 'blabla stuff i want on my system blabla'" what is the reason for them not upgrading?
[15:50] <ppf> KlausedSource: they require new dependencies
[15:50] <ubuntu821> i want to cry...
[15:50] <fs0i> ppf: Try this, it just worked for me: http://askubuntu.com/a/428960
[15:50] <ppf> you can upgrade those through apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:50] <TJ-> KlausedSource: In which case you need to do "apt-get dist-upgrade" to install *new* packages
[15:51] <user_> Please if I can use ubuntu or windows ?
[15:51] <ubuntu821> ok so one of my admins was doing some work and accidently chmod'ed the entire server
[15:51] <k1l> user_: dont install xampp, install the package ubunut ships
[15:51] <ubuntu821> now i cant connect to it through ssh, they are still logged in as root however
[15:51] <k1l> !lamp | user_
[15:51] <KlausedSource> TJ-, ah thats it?
[15:51] <Caleb--> how safe is it to upgrade to Ubuntu 15.04 alpha2 right now?
[15:52] <k1l> Caleb--: its a alpha. if you need to ask dont do ut
[15:52] <k1l> *it
[15:52] <ubuntu821> can anyone help?
[15:53] <fs0i> ubuntu821: Is copying all relevant data to an external drive and reinstalling an option?
[15:53] <ubuntu821> im running ubuntu 12.04 btw
[15:53] <k1l> ubuntu821: you cant chmod every single file back to the old state. so grab the backups and reinstall and roll back the backup
[15:53] <user_> ok i try to use this
[15:53] <ppf> can't you --reconfigure every package?
[15:53] <ppf> or won't that restore permissions?
[15:53] <k1l> ppf: no that is not going to help
[15:54] <ubuntu821> k1l is there a guide on that?
[15:54] <ppf> --reinstall even
[15:55] <ppf> ubuntu821: i think there is no harm in trying this:
[15:55] <ubuntu821> ok im listening
[15:55] <ppf> run debsums to list all packages that have modifications
[15:56] <ppf> (which is probably going to be all of them
[15:56] <ppf> and then apt-get install --reinstall all packages
[15:57] <ppf> however, i guess it might take a while until you have all access permissions back in a state that allows running apt
[15:57] <lion> hello i am having an issue with my 7 inch screen resoloution how do i set it so windows dont get cut off at the bottom please
[15:57] <ppf> here's a really stupid idea: chmod everything to 777 first
[15:58] <ubuntu821> whats the exact commands to run?
[15:58] <ppf> chmod a+rwx 777 /
[15:59] <ppf> however, that's a security nightmare!
[15:59] <Pici> Whoa hwoa whoa
[15:59] <SchrodingersScat> that's ever a good idea?
[15:59] <Pici> No
[15:59] <ubuntu821> ok did it
[15:59] <ppf> definitely not :D
[15:59] <ubuntu821> im desperate lol
[16:00] <ppf> make sure you do that in a very confined environment, no web access, no other users, etc
[16:00] <lion> 0.0
[16:00] <lion> hello i am having an issue with my 7 inch screen resoloution how do i set it so windows dont get cut off at the bottom please
[16:00] <ubuntu821> ok next?
[16:01] <ppf> run debsums -c
[16:01] <ubuntu821> ok
[16:02] <ubuntu821> not installed....
[16:02] <ppf> but let me say this again, chmod a+rwx leaves your system in a VERY unsafe state
[16:02] <lion> 800x480 its set at
[16:02] <ubuntu821> yea i know
[16:02] <ppf> you need to go through all your data and fix that
[16:02] <Epistolizer> Guys, I'm extremely new to Ubuntu and it's basically fucking up and purple screening when I try to start up normally, can anyone help? :L
[16:03] <ubuntu821> but debsums not installed
[16:03] <ppf> so really, while this lets you navigate your machine again, it's your safest option to back everything up an start from scratch
[16:03] <ppf> apt-get install?
[16:03] <pragmaticenigma> Epistolizer, please do not cuss when asking for help
[16:03] <lion> Epistolizer, lol i thought ubuntu was confusing so its not just me
[16:03] <ubuntu821> just that? apt-get install
[16:03] <Epistolizer> Ok sorry :P
[16:04] <ppf> apt-get install debsums of course
[16:04] <ubuntu821> ok installed and ran
[16:04] <Epistolizer> I mean my mouse clicks don't even work, and the screen resolution is stuck some tiny res.
[16:04] <lion> anyone know how to add an ldxe screen res to my monitor settings
[16:04] <pragmaticenigma> Epistolizer, if you leave the machine for a bit does it eventually load up or does it completly hang?
[16:05] <Epistolizer> I'm not sure tbh, I havn't left it for longer than 10-20 mins
[16:05] <ubuntu821> ran debsums -c now what?
[16:05] <ppf> that should tell you all packages which are dirty
[16:06] <Epistolizer> I'm on an older build I think atm than the one I'm trying to use
[16:07] <ubuntu821> ppf ok what do i do with that?
[16:07] <ppf> apt-get install --reinstall
[16:08] <TJ-> KlausedSource: I think I've identified why the USB3 OTG port isn't working - the low-level kernel driver (below the controller) needs to be OTG-aware, and know how to 'talk' to the specific OTG hardware in the A80. Without it, the host controller will see the port but no interrupts will be generated. Sounds like your situation.
[16:08] <KlausedSource> TJ-, where did you find this? and do you know if this is fixable?
[16:08] <ubuntu821> http://imgur.com/LaQdoUX
[16:09] <TJ-> KlausedSource: I've been refeshing myself on the kernel documentation for OTG, and specific experiences of ARM-based implementors
[16:09] <ppf> well then
[16:09] <ubuntu821> bad?
[16:10] <ppf> backup your data and install a new ubuntu
[16:10] <KlausedSource> TJ-, sorry, but what is OTG in this context? never heard this acronym before
[16:10] <ubuntu821> ok how to backup? lol im a noob
[16:10] <ppf> copy all your data to some place not on your machine?
[16:11] <TJ-> KlausedSource: USB On The Go (OTG) - the ability to have a port operate without a host controller, for direct connection of devices
[16:11] <ubuntu821> the machine is remote
[16:11] <ubuntu821> its a server i rent
[16:11] <ppf> you have an admin to manage a machine you rent?
[16:12] <ubuntu821> yea lol
[16:12] <KlausedSource> TJ-, so what you are saying is i need to wait until they release a new kernel with OTG support for this port?
[16:12] <lion> please can anyone help with my resoloution problem
[16:13] <ubuntu821> anyways to backup data from a remote server?
[16:13] <ppf> ftp?
[16:13] <ppf> sftp?
[16:13] <rosaecaeruleae> hi, what do I do to fix this?
[16:13] <rosaecaeruleae> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9939248/
[16:13] <ubuntu821> wont let me connect
[16:13] <mjayk> lion: just ask if someone can help they will
[16:14] <ppf> i really can't tell what means of access you have to your machine
[16:14] <TJ-> KlausedSource: I've found the Allwinner list of work-in-progress and committed, for Linux support. It shows that A80 USB support is still being developed and isn't ready yet. See http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:PkhPXA7-FoUJ:linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort&client=ubuntu&hs=Bct&hl=en&gl=uk&strip=1
[16:14] <ubuntu821> we used to have sftp till now
[16:14] <lion> mjayk,  i did but no reply
[16:15] <mjayk> lion: then no one must know how to help :) try again later maybe
[16:15] <lion> hello i am having an issue with my 7 inch screen resoloution how do i set it so windows dont get cut off at the bottom please
[16:15] <TJ-> KlausedSource: They link to an Linux-ARM-Kernel mailing list thread here: http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2015-January/320258.html
[16:15] <dannymichel> Where can i find pid files to delete?
[16:15] <lion> mjayk,  any ideas
[16:15] <ovidiu_calbajos> hello guys. do you know if the glibc6 has been updated for the openvz template?
[16:15] <ppf> dannymichel: that really depends on the context
[16:16] <mjayk> lion: no not really bar making sure you are running the correct res
[16:16] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[16:17] <mahdi_ja> when i want compile clips 6.3 i get this error
[16:17] <rosaecaeruleae> would this work? sudo apt-add-key E6A17451DC058F40
[16:17] <lion> mjayk,  800x480 its set at
[16:17] <mahdi_ja> color.c:25:27: fatal error: X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory
[16:17] <mjayk> lion: is that the correct resolution
[16:17] <lion> mjayk,  i wnt to add a new res to the list
[16:18] <lion> mjayk,  yes but some windows it cuts the bottom buttons off like when i print stuff
[16:18] <milamber> mahdi_ja: do you have libxt-dev installed?
[16:19] <mahdi_ja> milamber, no
[16:20] <dannymichel> ppf i can't run teamspeak as a user. it has to be run as root, and when i run it as a user, i get "ts3server.pid found, but no server running. Possibly your previously started server crashed"
[16:20] <dannymichel> so i went here ppf http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php/77142-ts3server-pid?p=401405#post401405 and it said something about deleting a pid file
[16:21] <milamber> mahdi_ja: sudo apt-get install libxt-dev
[16:21] <ppf> dannymichel: locate ts3server.pid
[16:21] <lion> anyon know how i change my resoloution its running on ldxe
[16:22] <dannymichel> yeah thats what I'm wondering ppf . where are the pid files
[16:22] <KlausedSource> TJ-, great finds wow really nice. i think i got you hooked :S
[16:22] <ppf> dannymichel: that was a terminal command :)
[16:22] <fniepelt> dannymichel It's in the same dir you installed teamspeak3 in
[16:22] <milamber> mahdi_ja: a useful tool in these situations is called apt-file, you can see what package a file is in. to install: sudo apt-get install apt-file, then: apt-file update, and then you can use it to search: apt-file search Intrinsic.h
[16:22] <dannymichel> oh
[16:22] <sjmikem> how can I track down why Xorg + gnome-desktop are using a consistent 60% CPU?
[16:22] <sjmikem> running in a VBox guest VM
[16:22] <fniepelt> dannymichel, is the teamspeak server really not running? I sometimes get that warning too, but the server starts up fine
[16:23] <mahdi_ja> milamber, thank you
[16:23] <dannymichel> yeah i tried to connect fniepelt
[16:23] <milamber> mahdi_ja: no problem
[16:24] <dannymichel> i install teamspeak in /home/teamspeak and the pid isn't there
[16:24] <dannymichel> fniepelt http://pastebin.com/tVEDG2qP can't connect unless i sudo
[16:25] <dannymichel> i changed permissions to /home/teamspeak to the 'teamspeak' user
[16:25] <CharlesW1> hi
[16:25] <fniepelt> dannymichel, have a look at the process list to make sure it really is not running. Can you also post the log file that is created?
[16:25] <ppf> did you run locate?
[16:26] <skinux> How do I completely remove Ruby 1.9? I think it's aptitude purge ruby?
[16:27] <CharlesW1> Question: how can i capture packages that will be forwarded using tcpdump ?
[16:27] <CharlesW1> tcpdump -i any '(host 192.168.1.52) and (not tcp port 22)'  only show connections to my router not to the default GW
[16:27] <CharlesW1> thx
[16:27] <dannymichel> fniepelt there is no teamspeak process running even though it says it started fine fniepelt
[16:28] <dannymichel> fniepelt i will look to see if there is any log
[16:29] <snkcld> i have ubuntu installed on my macbook pro retina.... but the resolution is incredibly high, and text is very similar
[16:29] <TJ-> CharlesW1: assuming 192.168.1.52 is the gateway, drop that host match filter, or invert it to 'not host 192.168.1.52'
[16:29] <dewdrop> Hi, does anyone know of an Ubuntu alternative to Netspeedmonitor tray icon like this: http://www.floriangilles.com/uploads/pics/netspeedmonitor_tooltip_new.png
[16:30] <nearst> hi guys
[16:30] <dannymichel> fniepelt ppf http://pastebin.com/Mx9jitmb
[16:31] <Guest78880> Can anyone answer this ??!!
[16:31] <Guest78880> http://askubuntu.com/questions/579270/unable-to-see-the-install-button-in-the-software-center
[16:32] <questions> Hello, I'm trying to create an ad-hoc network on my laptop and connect to it with my beagleboard, but when i run sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid myessid. I get SET failed. both computers are running ubuntu 14.04
[16:32] <CharlesW1> TJ-: .52 is my desktop - .50 a bridge and .1 my GW
[16:32] <CharlesW1> i will capture on the 192.168.1.50 bridge
[16:32] <fniepelt> dannymichel, there is a server error in the log, but I can't see it because it is cut off in the paste bin....use cat instead of nano
[16:32] <CharlesW1> TJ-: the plan was to capture all traffic from.52 except ssh traffic
[16:32] <questions> (SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported)
[16:33] <KingOfOOP> Can anyone ??
[16:33] <KingOfOOP> Sorry .
[16:33] <rosaecaeruleae> Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/trusty-getdeb/apps/binary-amd64/Packages  403  Forbidden << how do I fix that?
[16:33] <mjayk> questions: are you sure your device supports what you are trying to do
[16:33] <KingOfOOP> This is the place : http://askubuntu.com/questions/579270/unable-to-see-the-install-button-in-the-software-center
[16:35] <milamber> KingOfOOP: well if you are the same person asking the question, it looks like your sources.list file is borked
[16:35] <dannymichel> fniepelt https://www.dropbox.com/s/v9cgcicp4u6fl8m/Screenshot%202015-01-29%2011.34.32.png?dl=0   http://paste.ubuntu.com/9939479/
[16:35] <KingOfOOP> dannymichel: Yeah. I'm that guy.
[16:35] <KingOfOOP> dannymichel: How to fix it ?
[16:36] <milamber> KingOfOOP: try and remove that dl.google.com from your sources file and then try to update
[16:36] <questions> mjayk: uhm, I got it from the university, I'm supposed to do some processing on the tiny computer and send it over to the laptop.
[16:36] <KingOfOOP> questions: How ?
[16:36] <KingOfOOP> @milamber
[16:36] <TJ-> CharlesW1: "tcpdump -ni any  '(src host 192.168.1.52 and not tcp port ssh) and gateway 192.168.2.1' maybe?
[16:36] <KingOfOOP> milamber: How ??!!!
[16:37] <milamber> KingOfOOP: those are non-standard repos, how did you install them?
[16:38] <KingOfOOP> milamber: What are they ?
[16:38] <milamber> KingOfOOP: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[16:39] <KingOfOOP> milamber: I created a new sources.list by a website , because it was destoryed before.
[16:39] <milamber> KingOfOOP: what version of ubuntu?
[16:40] <KingOfOOP> milamber: See : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9939575/
[16:40] <KingOfOOP> milamber: 14.04 Long-Time Support (LTS)
[16:41] <milamber> KingOfOOP: have you installed anything from this list or has it always been broken?
[16:41] <TJ-> questions: Have you already set Ad-Hoc mode? Does the WiFi chipset require a firmware upload to function? If, so is a different firmware image required to support Ad-Hoc? Also, have you tried "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid myessid mode Ad-Hoc" ?
[16:41] <est31> hello, I'd like to make a debug build of a package, as the according debug symbols package only supplies the method name not the line. How can I do that in a nice dpkg manner?
[16:42] <fniepelt> dannymichel sent you a link that can probably help you fix this
[16:42] <KingOfOOP> milamber: No , in this question the Permul32  user gave me a way. And the way started this all... https://askubuntu.com/questions/576857/unable-to-download-wine-with-software-center-or-terminal
[16:42] <TJ-> est31: Have you checked whether the debug symbols archive (ddeb) already contains that - usually added as a repository into apt's config ?
[16:43] <dannymichel> fixed it with mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /dev/shm fniepelt
[16:43] <dannymichel> thanks
[16:44] <est31> TJ I have installed the -dbg package. ddeb? where to get it?
[16:44] <KingOfOOP> milamber: this ---> these
[16:44] <est31> ah sources.list
[16:44] <KlausedSource> on ubuntu where do i find config.php for apache2?
[16:44] <questions> TJ-: with mode Ad-Hoc, the connection seems to have been succesful, Thanks
[16:44] <fniepelt> dannymichel, no problem. May I ask which distribution you are using? Haven't seen one that does not have a tmpfs under /dev/shm ...
[16:45] <TJ-> est31: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/9939661/
[16:45] <dannymichel> fniepelt CentOS but come here for help because there is never anyone in their channel
[16:46] <xangua> dannymichel: please don't do that
[16:46] <est31> TJ, how are the ddeb packages named?
[16:46] <dannymichel> Also because I run Ubuntu locally
[16:46] <dannymichel> this is the VPS i asked help for
[16:46] <Pici> dannymichel: That doesn't mean that you can use our channel for help with another OS.  Use ##linux if for some reason the centos channels can't help you.
[16:47] <skypce> una consulta
[16:47] <skypce> tiempo atras recuerdo
[16:47] <skypce> un modulo
[16:47] <dannymichel> wasn't aware
[16:47] <dannymichel> thanks
[16:47] <skypce> para probar los estilos css
[16:47] <skypce> h1 a h6
[16:47] <skypce> tablas
[16:47] <skypce> etc
[16:47] <milamber> KingOfOOP: http://pastebin.com/ycYXcayY   that is my vanilla trusty sources.list file. try that and do: sudo apt-get update
[16:47] <xangua> !es | skypce
[16:47] <fniepelt> dannymichel, you may want to add an entry in your /etc/fstab for the tmpfs, so you won't have to use the command every time your machine reboots btw
[16:48] <est31> TJ, Where is the archive signing key for the ddeb repo
[16:48] <TJ-> est31: After addinf the repo entry, and doing "sudo apt-get update", you can install the symbols using the package-name followed by "-dbgsym". e.g: "bash-dbgsym"
[16:48] <est31> ?
[16:48] <milamber> KingOfOOP: and as for your first question about the 404 error, that is a server problem, not a local computer problem
[16:48] <Byrin> Hello all, I am trying to upgrade an Ubuntu server from 8.04 and the existing page describing this process is not working. Could anyone help me with this?
[16:48] <dannymichel> i did fniepelt thanks
[16:48] <TJ-> est31: Hmmm, is it not signed by the main Ubuntu archive signing key?
[16:49] <est31> no
[16:49] <est31> NO_PUBKEY ECDCAD72428D7C01
[16:49] <craprs> I ubuntu!
[16:49] <craprs> Hi*
[16:49] <xangua> !gpgerr | est31
[16:49] <ubuntu821> ppf its sftp
[16:50] <TJ-> est31: See here for instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Non-built-in_debug_symbol_packages_.28.2A-dbgsym.29
[16:50] <est31> xangua: thanks
[16:50] <crazyhead42> I'm trying to save a text file written in Nano to my desktop, but I don't think I'm navigating it correctly. It keeps saying "No Such File or Directory"
[16:50] <milamber> !details | Byrin
[16:51] <milamber> crazyhead42: do you need a copy on the desktop or do you want to move it?
[16:51] <crazyhead42> I'm trying to make it for the first time.
[16:52] <Caleb--> does anyone here use the xorg-edgers PPA?
[16:52] <TJ-> Caleb--: Yes
[16:52] <Caleb--> i'm thinking of trying it out since i'm having some shitty graphics performance on 14.10 with my intel IGPU
[16:53] <xangua> !language | Caleb-- you did read the warning of the PPA right¿
[16:53] <Caleb--> yes i did
[16:53] <milamber> crazyhead42: you have two options. option 1, Ctrl X to exit, do you want to save modified buffer, Y, then change the path to ~/Desktop/<filename>
[16:54] <Aki__> Hi there, i've got a problem with a pc i bought recently, that runs ubuntu, anyone up to anwser some questions to a newbie in need?
[16:54] <milamber> crazyhead42: option 2, before you start the file cd ~/Desktop
[16:54] <xangua> Caleb--: good, then you know you are on your own
[16:54] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | Aki__
[16:54] <Caleb--> xangua, my options are limited here: 1) install 14.04 (can I do that easily when I already have 14.10 installed?)   2) try xorg-edgers  3) install 15.04 alpha2
[16:55] <Aki__> Very well, i will keep that in mind
[16:55] <milamber> crazyhead42: just for information the ~ means your home directory
[16:55] <Aki__> Bought a pc online, had ubuntu preinstalled, former owner had a root password on it, doesn't know it anymore - what are my options?
[16:56] <krux> boot from live cd chroot into the root partition and passwd
[16:56] <BluesKaj> Caleb--, why xedgers , those ppas provide unstable drivers...roll your driver back to the recommended one on your OS
[16:56] <crazyhead42> Yep. Apparently so does $ though. Also "home". Yiesh.
[16:56] <Byrin> Sorry for the minimal details, here are details relating to updating from 8.04.
[16:56] <Byrin> http://pastebin.com/nrWDjb40
[16:56] <crazyhead42> Thanks, the ~ worked
[16:57] <pragmaticenigma> Aki__, Ubuntu doesn't install with a root password by default. If you need root access to run a program, you prefix the command with the "sudo" command
[16:57] <milamber> crazyhead42: $ typically means a variable in bash/on the command line, and the ~ is just an easier way as opposed to having to type /home/username every time
[16:57] <Caleb--> BluesKaj, i'm using the regular intel driver that comes with the kernel
[16:57] <BluesKaj> i915?
[16:58] <Caleb--> yes
[16:58] <Caleb--> i'm not the only one having these issues: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1386721
[16:58] <Caleb--> and mine is a clean install, btw
[16:59] <mahdi_ja> milamber, i install libxt-dev but i gaet same error again
[16:59] <milamber> mahdi_ja: you may have to rerun the ./configure step
[17:00] <milamber> what are you trying to compile?
[17:00] <est31> TJ, unfortunately there is no -dbgsym package for my desired package
[17:01] <est31> note its universe
[17:01] <milamber> mahdi_ja: and just for chagrins, what is the output of: sudo updatedb && locate Intrinsic.h
[17:03] <codekipple_> I'm having an issue using the 'trusty' vagrant cloud image, here is the bug for it - https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1315501
[17:04] <codekipple_> does anybody have any advice on a way around this? i was thinking i could make a change to the cloud image and re package it as a new local vagrant box. I'm just not sure what change to make.
[17:04] <mahdi_ja> milamber, i rerun confgiure again
[17:05] <mahdi_ja> milamber, /home/mahdi/AndroidSDK/docs/reference/android/renderscript/ScriptIntrinsic.html
[17:05] <mahdi_ja> /home/mahdi/AndroidSDK/docs/reference/android/support/v8/renderscript/ScriptIntrinsic.html
[17:05] <mahdi_ja> /home/mahdi/AnroidNDK/docs/Additional_library_docs/renderscript/classandroid_1_1RSC_1_1ScriptIntrinsic.html
[17:05] <mahdi_ja> /opt/Qt5.4.0/5.4/Src/qtwebkit/Source/JavaScriptCore/runtime/Intrinsic.h
[17:05] <mahdi_ja> /opt/Qt5.4.0-Android/5.4/Src/qtwebkit/Source/JavaScriptCore/runtime/Intrinsic.h
[17:05] <mahdi_ja> /usr/include/X11/Intrinsic.h
[17:06] <giovanna> ciao
[17:06] <milamber> mahdi_ja: ok, so the header is there under X11/Intrinsic.h, is it compiling now?
[17:06] <mitt> ciao giovanna
[17:07] <ki7rw> strange - after replacing my HDD with an SSD, i can't get nvidia-331 or nvidia-340 drivers to work -  booting to my old HDD in a USB enclosure nvidia-331 works - what's the difference? i tried re-installing ubuntu 14.04 onto the SSD and i still have the problem
[17:07] <mahdi_ja> milamber, no
[17:08] <Byrin> Can anyone help me upgrading from Ubuntu 8.04? http://pastebin.com/nrWDjb40
[17:09] <milamber> mahdi_ja: is it the exact same error? can you pastebin it? and what software are you trying to compile?
[17:09] <Expl01t> ,
[17:09] <mahdi_ja> milamber, i want compile clips 3.6
[17:10] <mr_snowf1ake> hey guys, i'm wondering about the issues around the license of ppa packages. am i legally allowed to distribute a .deb on a public ppa along with the .deb packages for our product? or do we have to have some script to add the ppa repositories and install instead?
[17:10] <mahdi_ja> milamber, http://pastebin.com/VN72m0xa
[17:11] <milamber> mahdi_ja: that is actually a different error, it it now looking for Command.h - i am not familiar with this clips package, but typically they will list somewhere a set of libraries needed to compile, you have to make sure you have them all.
[17:12] <mahdi_ja> milamber, ok,thanks for your attention
[17:13] <milamber> mahdi_ja: using that apt-file search command i gave you earlier, that header is located in libxaw7-dev
[17:13] <milamber> mahdi_ja: so do: sudo apt-get install libxaw7-dev
[17:13] <est31> TJ:  anyway thanks for help
[17:13] <Caleb--> here goes... let's see what xorg-edgers does :)
[17:14] <milamber> Byrin: did you try the official way? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades
[17:14] <Byrin> milamber yes, And I noted my errors in the pastebin
[17:16] <aarobc> yay! work is getting me a system76 machine!
[17:16] <milamber> Byrin: looked at the pastebin, it seems like you manually edited your sources.list, got 404 errors, then tried the cd and made no mention of it being the alternate cd
[17:17] <zaggynl> anyone else currently unable to login to Skype?
[17:17] <milamber> KingOfOOP: can you pastebin the result of sudo apt-get update
[17:17] <zaggynl> "Skype can't connect"
[17:18] <KingOfOOP> milamber: Ok.
[17:20] <milamber> zaggynl: just tried it and got the same error, in the US
[17:20] <zaggynl> thanks, good to know I'm not the only one milamber
[17:20] <mahdi_ja> milamber, ok problem is solved .thank you very much
[17:20] <milamber> mahdi_ja: no problem
[17:21] <zaggynl> it does appear to be working on my phone though
[17:21] <Byrin> milamber, I am not exactly sure what you are saying, but I downloaded the ISO from the address they provided on the LucidUpgrades page
[17:22] <milamber> Byrin: did you try the network upgrade?
[17:22] <KingOfOOP> milamber: http://pastebin.com/ULVHewNv
[17:24] <Byrin> milamber: i did try that, but System/Administration/Software Sources does not exist for me
[17:25] <milamber> Byrin: maybe I am misunderstanding what you are trying to do. are you trying to upgrade a desktop install or a server?
[17:26] <KingOfOOP> milamber: Did you see the result ??!!
[17:26] <Caleb--> BluesKaj, the upgrade didn't kill my computer.. yet. unity feels more responsive now, but that may be because i've just restarted.
[17:26] <Byrin> milamber: I am trying to upgrade from 8.04 server to any currently supported ubuntu server distro
[17:27] <milamber> Byrin: so you tried sudo apt-get update-manager-core>'
[17:27] <milamber> ?*
[17:27] <esde> ouch 8.04
[17:28] <Byrin> milamber: yes, but apt-get anything is not working since the repositories are out of date
[17:28] <BluesKaj> Caleb--, well, I don't run unity since I'm a kde guy and it runs fine on my laptop with the i915 driver with kubuntu 14.10
[17:28] <Byrin> esde: yes ouch. school project though so not production xD
[17:29] <esde> so backup and restore. but some stuff might need to be changed since that 8.04 distro is so stale
[17:29] <milamber> KingOfOOP: try this: http://pastebin.com/p07krcSg
[17:30] <trick2g> using ubuntu, how do i make files set to 0773 (rwxrwx-wx) not readable by a web server?
[17:30] <esde> change the permissions
[17:30] <Caleb--> BluesKaj, i see. btw, do you have issues with full-screen video (html5) in chrome? it hangs the whole process for me (with the old driver it forced me to restart lightdm, but now i simply killed chrome)
[17:31] <trick2g> esde: ?
[17:31] <milamber> Byrin: that is probably going to be the best option. any reason a backup/restore is not an option?
[17:31] <esde> trick2g, change the permissions
[17:31] <BluesKaj> Caleb--, hang on , let me check
[17:32] <KingOfOOP> milamber: http://pastebin.com/Fupijp54
[17:32] <petrol> erx
[17:33] <pragmaticenigma> Byrin, you wwwwwwwould be best to back up everything on that server and install a fresh copy of Ubuntu server. there are too many differences between the two and you may end up with conflicting libraries
[17:33] <ElysiumNet> NODATA? sounds like something screwy on google's side
[17:34] <ElysiumNet> KingOfOOP: does the computer happen to be behind a proxy or is it NATted?
[17:34] <Byrin> So basically, we were given this machine in my computer security class, and we need to secure it. The method he gave us for updating was the pages I linked but they do not work. I am not completely sure I would be allowed to backup and restore a new machine
[17:34] <KingOfOOP> ElysiumNet: No.
[17:34] <esde> Byrin, there is no securing 8.04 :P
[17:35] <esde> short of locking it in a vault, in a pwoered down state :)
[17:35] <ElysiumNet> KingOfOOP: absolutely sure it's not a shared IP?
[17:35] <Byrin> esde: hence trying to do a distro update. xD
[17:35] <pragmaticenigma> Byrin, best way to secure that would be to unplug it and throw away the power cord ;-)
[17:35] <Byrin> Yeah I know. But alas, this is what I must do. I am almost positive he did it on purpose to give us a hard time.
[17:35] <ElysiumNet> assuming it's about the GPG error, just saw that url
[17:35] <esde> Byrin, you're either very dense or poor at reading comprehension.An upgrade is not a good idea, at all
[17:36] <esde> or your instructor is an idiot.
[17:36] <milamber> KingOfOOP: do you have chrome/chromium?
[17:36] <Byrin> esde: please do not insult me. This is what I was told to do, regardless of the facts. If this was a real scenario I would simply start from scratch.
[17:36] <pragmaticenigma> Byrin, since this is for a class, I would suggest asking for help from the teacher, TAs or fellow classmates. They're going to be a much better resource to your assignment
[17:36] <KingOfOOP> milamber: Yes , Google Chrome
[17:37] <esde> Byrin, good luck! (but it won't work :) )
[17:39] <ElysiumNet> KingOfOOP: if you don't mind me asking, in what country is this machine?
[17:39] <KingOfOOP> ElysiumNet: a Forbidden one
[17:40] <ElysiumNet> ah, china
[17:40] <Manikanta> hello
[17:40] <Manikanta> exit
[17:40] <milamber> KingOfOOP: wget -q -O - http://dl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | sudo apt-key add -
[17:41] <ElysiumNet> KingOfOOP: the reason why I ask is because you might not be aware of a proxy or that it is being NATted. hence google denying you to connect to it since it tends to blacklist abusers
[17:41] <ElysiumNet> milamber's wget should prove that
[17:41] <ElysiumNet> milamber: wouldn't it be better to check if it's actually responding in the first place?
[17:41] <ElysiumNet> rather than immediately try to add it as a key
[17:42] <milamber> ElysiumNet: i thought if it wasn't responding it wouldn't indicate a gpg error
[17:42] <ElysiumNet> milamber: better be safe than sorry, but I thought the | would pipe, at best an error from apt-key
[17:43] <ElysiumNet> unfortunately I've always been getting the worst case scenario with these things
[17:43] <milamber> ElysiumNet: truth
[17:43] <milamber> KingOfOOP: try just the wget part, without the | or anything after it, if that works then do the sudo apt-key add
[17:44] <Caleb--> where can i find great high-quality wallpapers?
[17:44] <ElysiumNet> and check the contents of linux_signing_key.pub that's then on the filesystem
[17:44] <KingOfOOP> milamber: The result of apt-key add :
[17:44] <KingOfOOP> root@ArshiaAghaei:/var/lib/apt# sudo apt-key addgpg: can't open `': No such file or directory
[17:44] <codeberry> join #ovirt
[17:46] <ElysiumNet> KingOfOOP: you're behind a proxy
[17:46] <ElysiumNet> or NATted/shared IP
[17:46] <KingOfOOP> ElysiumNet: How to get rid of that ?
[17:46] <TJ-> KingOfOOP: Try to fetch the Release file manually; "wget -O - http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release"
[17:47] <KingOfOOP> TJ-: What exactly it will do ?
[17:48] <TJ-> KingOfOOP: Prove if you can get the file from Google: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/9940650/
[17:48] <ElysiumNet> TJ-: I want to know if he can even ping dl.google.com in the first place, since I have a suspicion his IP is blacklisted
[17:48] <ElysiumNet> or the proxy is blacklisting dl.google.com
[17:48] <TJ-> KingOfOOP: It's possible that some transparent proxy in your country is intercepting the request and blocking it - hance the NODATA response
[17:49] <KingOfOOP> TJ-: I see : http://pastebin.com/gVZBGb0Q
[17:50] <KingOfOOP> TJ-: What is that mean ??
[17:50] <TJ-> KingOfOOP: That looks correct, so you can reach it. So now you know the issue is with apt/gpg during the update command
[17:51] <ElysiumNet> and what does http://dl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub return?
[17:53] <KingOfOOP> ElysiumNet: Are you asking me ?
[17:53] <ElysiumNet> hm, this is odd...
[17:53] <KingOfOOP> ElysiumNet: "<ElysiumNet> and what does http://dl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub return?"
[17:53]  * ElysiumNet kicks google
[17:53] <ElysiumNet> KingOfOOP: yes
[17:53] <ElysiumNet> I just tried it on my server, I am getting the exact same issue
[17:54] <TJ-> KingOfOOP: The "NODATA" usually happens due to a badly configured transparent proxy, that intercepts requests and instead of returning a status code of 404 (Page Not Found) returns a 200 (OK) but might send a document reporting a 404 error
[17:54] <TJ-> ElysiumNet: For which URI? I tested the URIs also and get the correct responses
[17:54] <KingOfOOP> ElysiumNet: Let me show it.
[17:54] <ElysiumNet> TJ-: this might actually be google's fault in this case. my US server connects to the same exact IP's and just times out
[17:54] <ElysiumNet> http://dl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub
[17:54] <ElysiumNet> Resolving dl.google.com (dl.google.com)... 173.194.112.167, 173.194.112.165, 173.194.112.174, ...
[17:55] <ElysiumNet> it's just stuck once it's connected
[17:55] <TJ-> ElysiumNet: KingOfOOP see http://paste.ubuntu.com/9940720/
[17:55] <ElysiumNet> *same range
[17:56] <KingOfOOP> ElysiumNet: http://imgur.com/uKDlRbx
[17:56] <ElysiumNet> okay, I nearly fell backwards
[17:56] <KingOfOOP> ElysiumNet: What can i do now ?
[17:57] <ElysiumNet> wait, 2006?
[17:57] <KingOfOOP> ElysiumNet: What 2006 ?
[17:57] <ElysiumNet> it says copyright 2006 right there
[17:58] <ElysiumNet> nevermind, apparently google didn't update that either
[17:58] <daftykins> hehe
[17:58] <ElysiumNet> almost thought that was a telltale sign of a really badly configured proxy
[17:58] <daftykins> KingOfOOP: i guess your country doesn't want you dealing with Google. whereabouts are you?
[17:58] <KingOfOOP> daftykins: A forbidden one.
[17:58] <daftykins> are you the Iranian from yesterday?
[17:59] <TJ-> ElysiumNet: KingOfOOP. I can connect to that IP manually and get the file using telnet, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/9940791/
[17:59] <linelevel> Hi, I'm a bit confused about secondary group permissions. I used `sudo chgrp -R mygroup mydir/` to assign a secondary group I made to a certain directory. Then I ran `sudo chmod -R 2770 mydir/`. Then finally I added myself to the new group with `sudo usermod -a -G mygroup myuser`.. but when I try to `cd` into mydir/, I get a Permission Denied error. Where did I go wrong?
[17:59] <daftykins> KingOfOOP: i ask for my own education to help users in here in future.
[18:00] <daftykins> linelevel: group changes usually require a logout + in or new terminal to be reflected i think
[18:00] <daftykins> KingOfOOP: ah yes it is you. masquerading with a different nickname today i see :P
[18:00] <ElysiumNet> TJ-: 404 from my US server
[18:00] <Danielc1234> what is the best way to setup people to be able to SSH into our server, but set parameters to restrict them in where they can go and edit? Like to only allow them to access a certain folder w/its sub folders, etc. But be able to modify and save files in that Folder?
[18:01] <KingOfOOP> daftykins: Who are you talking about ??
[18:01] <ElysiumNet> locally it just works fine
[18:01] <daftykins> Danielc1234: chroots
[18:01] <TJ-> ElysiumNet: KingOfOOP OK, using IP 173.194.112.167 and telnet I get the file (/linux/linux_signing_key.pub)
[18:01] <daftykins> KingOfOOP: you!
[18:01] <KingOfOOP> daftykins: ???
[18:02] <ElysiumNet> oh wait, missed a header
[18:02] <ElysiumNet> hm... that works
[18:02] <TJ-> ElysiumNet: HTTP/1.1 and Host: dl.google.com ?
[18:02] <KingOfOOP> ElysiumNet: What can i do ???
[18:02] <ElysiumNet> TJ-: missed the Host header, it works now. but I can't wget it directly
[18:02] <ElysiumNet> telnet works, wget just times out
[18:03]  * ElysiumNet tries curl
[18:03] <TJ-> ElysiumNet: Hmmm!
[18:03] <ElysiumNet> curl works o.O
[18:03] <ElysiumNet> and now does wget... must have been a maintenance window or something
[18:03] <TJ-> ElysiumNet: Yes, it looked like a DNS issue
[18:04] <ElysiumNet> KingOfOOP: try again
[18:04] <TJ-> ElysiumNet: It looks like dl.google.com is using DNS round-robin and geo-location to point to the nearest proxy
[18:04] <KingOfOOP> ElysiumNet: Try what ???
[18:04] <ElysiumNet> KingOfOOP: updating?
[18:05] <ElysiumNet> or any of the above wgets really
[18:05] <TJ-> KingOfOOP: clear apt's /partial/ directory etc., and re-try the "apt-get update"
[18:05] <KingOfOOP> TJ-: Where is this directory ?
[18:06] <daftykins> you're going to need to dripfeed this one
[18:06] <ElysiumNet> daftykins: it's an excuse to waste company time
[18:07] <daftykins> :P
[18:07] <stevenjc> hey can anyone point me in the right direction i want to understand the linux terminal
[18:07] <daftykins> stevenjc: new user? there's a nice introductory course on edx.org
[18:07] <ElysiumNet> stevenjc: from which OS do you come from?
[18:07] <TJ-> KingOfOOP: You gave us this pastebin earlier where it shows you used commands to clear out any corrupted files from the apt directories: http://pastebin.com/Fupijp54
[18:07] <stevenjc> im from windows
[18:08] <linelevel> daftykins: Well that seems to have solved the problem.
[18:08] <ElysiumNet> stevenjc: familiar with cmd.exe ?
[18:08] <stevenjc> powershell
[18:08] <stevenjc> tho im a computing noob
[18:08] <stevenjc> sort off
[18:08] <stevenjc> been here and there
[18:08] <stevenjc> just wanna get to guru lvl
[18:08] <daftykins> yeah, free course, edx.org gogo
[18:08] <milamber> TJ-: i sent KingOfOOP those instructions
[18:09] <TJ-> milamber: You did? Ahhh, and we go round in circles :)
[18:09] <stevenjc> i understand moving around the terminal but i wanna learn bash scripting and getting used to commands
[18:09] <TJ-> stevenjc: This may help: http://linuxcommand.org/
[18:09] <pratik> Hi
[18:09] <stevenjc> like i was goin to switch to arch ... couldnt get the dd thing right
[18:10] <DJones> !terminal | stevenjc
[18:10] <daftykins> stevenjc: dd is pretty damn easy when it comes to such things ;)
[18:10] <ElysiumNet> stevenjc: tab is your friend
[18:10] <ElysiumNet> get used to hitting that button really often
[18:10] <pratik> Hi is any 1 here?
[18:10] <stevenjc> lol i open with ctrl alt t
[18:10] <daftykins> pratik: you just came in and saw 3+ people talking, of course there is.
[18:11] <milamber> stevenjc: for what it is worth i find that getting trying to do things and using the man page helps me actually remember things, for example: man dd
[18:11] <Prezident> stevenjc: if you understand that you understand bash!
[18:11] <Prezident> bash is probably one of the simpliest language togheter with tcl
[18:11] <RagingBuddha> Hey boys & girls, on Saturday I'll receive my new laptop and I'll be running Windows next to Ubuntu (just for graphics programs). Can I use same USB drive to install Windows and Ubuntu from? Can the same drive be bootable for Windows & Ubuntu installation?
[18:11] <stevenjc> im a gamer and i put pc's together
[18:11] <Prezident> A good bash scripter is good on linux, its simple! :)
[18:11] <ElysiumNet> Prezident: I found bash (any commandline scripting language, actually) to be more of an annoyance than a help
[18:11] <milamber> !dualboot | RagingBuddha
[18:11] <Prezident> Bash is good to understand if you wanna learn linux.
[18:11] <Prezident> And vice versa.
[18:12] <daftykins> RagingBuddha: yes if you use YUMI from pendrivelinux.com on Windows to load up both ISOs
[18:12] <stevenjc> .. umm so can anyone tell me y ./configure is not inside my ubuntu
[18:12] <pratik> Are you(those who are giving solutions here) from Canonical ltd. ?
[18:12] <ElysiumNet> stevenjc: ./configure is for configuring a source package
[18:12] <teward> pratik: this is a volunteer community support chat room
[18:12] <daftykins> pratik: some, but not all. this is a volunteer channel
[18:12] <stevenjc> i know and i tried configure this xchat client
[18:12] <teward> pratik: while there may be canonical people around the MASSIVE majority is the community
[18:13] <ElysiumNet> stevenjc: you mean you just did "./configure" in your xchat client?
[18:13] <Prezident> stevenjc: huh
[18:13] <Prezident> whats the problem?
[18:13] <stevenjc> it said " no such file or directory"
[18:13] <milamber> RagingBuddha: it seems that guide has not been updated . . . in a while. you also have to see what filesystem the laptop is using and whether or not it is using uefi. those things complicate the matter
[18:13] <ElysiumNet> stevenjc: you need to execute that in the directory where the "configure" file resides
[18:13] <TJ-> If you focus on bash specifically, also make sure you understand it is an extension of (d)(a)sh and therefore on some systems and in some circumstances bash-specific scripts will not work.
[18:13] <stevenjc> im here now i just wanted to compile my first application for a pat on the back
[18:13] <Prezident> stevenjc: in wich folder?
[18:13] <RagingBuddha> daftykins & milamber thank you
[18:13] <KingOfOOP> TJ-: Then ???
[18:14] <daftykins> stevenjc: if the program is available in packages, compiling is doing it wrong
[18:14] <pratik> I would like to congratulate you , you made me switch from Win7 to Ubuntu.You guys are amazing!! By the way I m software engineer.
[18:14] <chucki> suggest me some channel
[18:14] <stevenjc> /usr/local/src
[18:14] <KingOfOOP> milamber: You guys mean i should retry those ??
[18:14] <daftykins> chucki: for what?
[18:14] <TJ-> stevenjc: "configure" is a script for the GNU autoconf and associated tools to configure a source code package correctly for the host system where it is to be built into binaries.
[18:14] <stevenjc> man idk were to even put aplications who wanna teach me linux
[18:14] <daftykins> !alis | chucki try this out then you can find channels for yourself
[18:14] <chucki> anything
[18:15] <ElysiumNet> KingOfOOP: yes, retry and let us know the results
[18:15] <TJ-> KingOfOOP: Yes; retry clearinf apt's cache as you showed in that pastebin, and try the "apt-get update" once more. It is possible the problem was a temporary one which has now been fixed.
[18:15] <stevenjc> i wanna learn the linux bash then move on to c# and watever else available
[18:15]  * TJ- must go - time to make dinner
[18:16] <ElysiumNet> KingOfOOP: if it doesn't, I might have to ask to flush the DNS cache for just in case
[18:16] <stevenjc> by the way im at the library reading the official ubuntu book ...
[18:16] <pratik> @stevenjc , C# is copycat of Java
[18:17] <pratik> Aweful language
[18:17] <stevenjc> so if i learn c# il know java ?
[18:17] <ElysiumNet> pratik: which one is the awful one?
[18:17] <pratik> If u know java then u wil get c#
[18:17] <pratik> c#
[18:17] <lion123> which is support channel for freenode???????????
[18:17] <pratik> is aweful
[18:17] <ElysiumNet> eh, I tend to disagree on that
[18:17] <lion123> ?
[18:17] <ElysiumNet> it has some nasty C++ habbits, but overall it's pretty decent
[18:17] <dtscode> lion123, #freenode
[18:18] <daftykins> lion123: you'll be shocked, it's #freenode
[18:18] <Prezident> lion123: please your behavior isnt ok, 1=? is ok. Try #freenode
[18:18] <Solo456> Ubuntu 14.10 not vulnerable to GHOST? (eglibc / glibc) Did a search in the package manager and it doesn't seem to be so... Need confirmation
[18:18] <lion123> cool
[18:18] <lion123> thanks
[18:18] <Prezident> Good.
[18:18] <dtscode> c# is nice. its not c++, but its not bad, especiallly for a microsoft lang]
[18:18] <daftykins> what an ass
[18:18] <Prezident> Yes.
[18:18] <Prezident> No swearing please.
[18:18] <pratik> I wouldn't mind if you charged a little for Ubuntu like Win7,8
[18:19] <ElysiumNet> pratik: you can pay for Ubuntu
[18:19] <daftykins> pratik: this isn't a place for your comments, this is a support channel only.
[18:19] <Prezident> Im not even an ubuntu user just helping out.
[18:19] <ElysiumNet> in multiple ways. one is called "donating"
[18:19] <pratik> sorry
[18:19] <ElysiumNet> the other is hiring support directly from canonical
[18:19] <Prezident> stevenjc: this is an ubuntu help channel, not talking about scripting language, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:19] <pratik> i thought noone now has a query so chatting a bit off topic
[18:20] <daftykins> pratik: no, off topic chat goes in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:20] <daftykins> support only in here.
[18:20] <ppf> "Colour0"="131,148,150"
[18:20] <ppf> "Colour1"="147,161,161"
[18:20] <ppf> "Colour2"="0,43,54"
[18:20] <ppf> "Colour3"="7,54,66"
[18:20] <ppf> "Colour4"="0,43,54"
[18:20] <ppf> "Colour5"="238,232,213"
[18:20] <daftykins> don't paste.
[18:20] <Prezident> Ey man! Use pastebin for more then 5 lines.
[18:21] <Prezident> lol
[18:21] <ElysiumNet> something tells me he didn't prefix the list with 0's
[18:21] <odessa> hello
[18:21] <ppf> i'm so sorry, multiline textblock and middle mouse mix badly
[18:21] <odessa> is this the same channel for the ubuntu device flash?
[18:22] <odessa> or there's another one?
[18:22] <daftykins> odessa: for what?
[18:22] <daftykins> you don't make sense
[18:22] <daftykins> you mean tablets and phones? #ubuntu-touch
[18:23] <odessa> yup
[18:23] <odessa> phones and tablets :)
[18:23] <odessa> oh right thanks! :D
[18:24] <ElysiumNet> ppf: thanks, didn't know that
[18:24] <ElysiumNet> that helps some keyboard abuse
[18:27] <ppf> hehe, happy to help
[18:29] <KingOfOOP> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9941242/
[18:31] <EriC^^> KingOfOOP: you need to use a proxy
[18:31] <KingOfOOP> EriC^^: you tried to give me a proxy before. but it didn't work
[18:33] <EriC^^> KingOfOOP: it does
[18:33] <KingOfOOP> EriC^^: Ok, can you give me that by private massage ???
[18:36] <EriC^^> KingOfOOP: try sudo bash -c "http_proxy=http://164.77.196.76:80 apt-get update"
[18:39] <KingOfOOP> EriC^^: The result is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9941358/
[18:40] <porten> hello, i'm running into some issues when apt upgrading http://paste.ubuntu.com/9941357/
[18:40] <porten> I can't seem to find anything online on how to resolve the issue
[18:51] <EriC^^> KingOfOOP: ill brb
[18:58] <basichash> How can I install gstreamer for 14.04?
[19:00] <daftykins> !find gstreamer trusty
[19:00] <croepha> Hello
[19:00] <Codmadnesspro> Hi, I've installed google authenticator into ssh but since I've installed and tried to login with normal password it doesn't like it...
[19:01] <basichash> daftykins: which one do I install?
[19:02] <croepha> what is the least invasive way to add a dns server for a given domain name only in ubuntu 14.04 desktop?  ( basically the  equivilent of adding a —server= entry to dnsmasq)
[19:02] <daftykins> basichash: no idea :) i would look that up, but since we can both google... that one i leave for you
[19:08] <ProxyDoxy> Hi, do any of you know how I can do this in Ubuntu?
[19:08] <ProxyDoxy> http://superuser.com/questions/398977/how-can-i-run-all-http-request-through-charles-web-debugging-proxy-including-c
[19:12] <ax562> help
[19:12] <ax562> I messed up my ubuntu 12.04 lts 64 bit gui
[19:12] <ax562> it's gone
[19:12] <ax562> I'm only able to login through terminal
[19:13] <daftykins> what happens when you "sudo service lightdm start" ?
[19:13] <ax562> me datfykins?
[19:13] <daftykins> i'll give you one guess ;)
[19:13] <ProxyDoxy> [question] Do any of you know how I can do this in Ubuntu? http://superuser.com/questions/398977/how-can-i-run-all-http-request-through-charles-web-debugging-proxy-including-c
[19:13] <ax562> lol
[19:14] <ax562> well now that I'm in irssi I cant even open up a new terminal
[19:14] <ax562> this is it
[19:14] <daftykins> ax562: sure you can, you have 6 TTYs from Alt+F1 through Alt+F6
[19:14] <daftykins> !repeat | ProxyDoxy
[19:14] <ax562> h
[19:15] <ax562> ah
[19:15] <ax562> ok
[19:15] <ax562> let me try
[19:15] <ProxyDoxy> I have searched the whole internet
[19:15] <ax562> job is already runnning
[19:16] <ax562> should I explain how I broke it?
[19:16] <j2b> Hi, guys, regarding 14.04 Apache with default host. I have 000-default + several vhosts created, one of them - php app. When I open PHP app, it gets redirected to default site. Where could be a problem? PHP use .htaccess
[19:16] <daftykins> ax562: yeah what did you do?
[19:16] <ax562> i was tryihg to setup my build envirenmont to build android source
[19:16] <bb> hi there is there a way to capture screenshot on ubuntu? thanks
[19:16] <ax562> i was getting the necessary packages
[19:16] <daftykins> bb: yeah, the print screen key
[19:17] <daftykins> ax562: explain on one line please.
[19:17] <ax562> but 1 of the packages wouldn't install because of gnome-service-center
[19:17] <bb> is there be another way?daftykins
[19:17] <ax562> sorry
[19:17] <k1l> ax562: what means you gui doesnt work? do you see the login screen like before?
[19:17] <ax562> k11 no
[19:18] <daftykins> bb: why does there need to be another way? do you not have that key?
[19:18] <k1l> ax562: what ubuntu is it exactly?
[19:18] <bb> yes
[19:18] <daftykins> bb: yes to what?
[19:19] <daftykins> explain in full
[19:19] <bb> i need antoher key
[19:19] <mtien> hello, i need help installing a wifi pci card driver on ubuntu. already downloaded the driver but don't know how to proceed from there.
[19:20] <ax562> ok so package depended on gnomeservice center.  So it wouldnt install without it.  So i did sudo apt-get install gnome-service center.  gnome-service-center installed then my gui went bonkers so I restarted.  After restart, I do not have gui anymore just a "user:" "password:" prompt, then it goes into terminal.
[19:20] <k1l> ax562: what ubuntu is it exactly?
[19:21] <daftykins> mtien: best way to start is to paste us the single line from 'lspci' that refers to what chipset the device is
[19:21] <ax562> ubuntu 12.04 lts 64bit
[19:22] <ax562> I tried sudo apt-get remove gnome-service-center but nothing changed
[19:22] <k1l> ax562: what happens when you login there and then do a "sudo lightdm start"
[19:22] <ax562> then I tried reinstalling it..still nothing
[19:22] <ax562> "Job is already running"
[19:22] <heathn-irc> When I copy a very large folder form on HDD to another the file sizes on the second HDD are much larger than those on the first HDD.
[19:22] <heathn-irc> I am using just cp, should I use rsync instead?
[19:22] <heathn-irc> Both HDD's are ext4.
[19:22] <k1l> ax562: press ctrl+alt+f7
[19:22] <k1l> ax562: does it give you the loginscreen?
[19:23] <heathn-irc> from one HDD*
[19:23] <ax562> no
[19:23] <ax562> error messages
[19:23] <Codmadnesspro> Hi, I've installed google authenticator into ssh but since I've installed and tried to login with normal password it doesn't like it...
[19:23] <k1l> ax562: the errors matter to find a solution
[19:24] <ax562> fontconfig errors
[19:24] <TJ-> heathn-irc: Is if the actual file sizes, or the blocks used? I can image a larger block size on the destination device causing that impression. Give us an example of the file sizes on source and destination
[19:24] <ax562> I do not have a mouse functioon
[19:24] <ax562> or select all etc
[19:24] <ax562> I would have to type each line one by one
[19:25] <ax562> /etc/fonts/conf.d errors
[19:25] <heathn-irc> So for an entire folder the size is 47GB on one HDD and 96GB on the other.
[19:25] <ax562> like 10 of them
[19:25] <heathn-irc> TJ-,  ^
[19:26] <ax562> what is gnome-control-center?
[19:26] <ax562> that is what broke everything
[19:26] <k1l> ax562: that sounds very strange. what did you install there?
[19:27] <TJ-> heathn-irc: But are individual file sizes showing as different? That looks to me like different block sizes on the 2 file-systems, if individual file sizes are the saem
[19:27] <ax562> sudo apt-get install gnome-control-center
[19:27] <BlackVenom> Evening
[19:27] <BlackVenom> Does anyone know what the wildcard is in lftp?
[19:27] <BlackVenom> if I use
[19:27] <k1l> ax562: no. the other ones you installed
[19:27] <BlackVenom> get *
[19:27] <ax562> that was it
[19:27] <BlackVenom> it doesn't recognise the command
[19:28] <k1l> ax562: install "pastebinit" package
[19:28] <ax562> I was installing packages so I can build source code
[19:28] <ax562> one of them wouldn't install because of dependencies
[19:28] <ax562> the dependency was gnome-control-center
[19:28] <ax562> so I installed that, then BOOM!
[19:28] <heathn-irc> TJ-, block size on both HDD's is 4096
[19:29] <k1l> ax562: then please "pastebinit /var/apt/history.log" and show the url in here
[19:29] <TJ-> ax562: The Ubuntu installation was Ubuntu with GTK/Gnome? I ask since if it was, gnome-control-center would, I think, already be installed.
[19:29] <mtien> daftys, still there?
[19:29] <k1l> ax562: yes, maybe some of that you were installing already broke your system
[19:29] <daftykins> mtien: yes
[19:29] <ax562> k11 done
[19:29] <ax562> pastebinit
[19:29] <ax562> I doubt it k11
[19:30] <heathn-irc> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9942003/
[19:30] <mtien> ok. i did some command on the terminal and found that the wifi pci card is rt5390  and i proceeded to download the driver from their website.
[19:30] <ax562> I'm 99% sure it was gnome-service-center
[19:30] <k1l> ax562: it doesnt matter if you doubt
[19:30] <mreverywhere> i seem to be having the exact oposite problem from most people with touch screen vs mouse input. my touchscreen works perfectly while my touchpad does not do anything. my touchpad is mouse0 while my touchscreen is mouse1. is there a way to disable the touch screen and make the touchpad the default?
[19:30] <KingOfOOP> TJ-: Do you have any idea for the problem ? i waited for EriC^^ but he has quit.
[19:30] <k1l> ax562: we need to get to know what is wrong. not what you want to be wrong
[19:30] <ax562> it does if we don't want to waste time
[19:30] <mtien> now i'm at a loss as to how to proceed from here.
[19:30] <ax562> k11 now what?
[19:30] <heathn-irc> also TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/9942006/
 ax562: then please "pastebinit /var/apt/history.log" and show the url in here
[19:31] <ax562> k
[19:31] <TJ-> heathn-irc: How about on the file-systems themselves, though (dump2fs -h <device>) ?
[19:31] <heathn-irc> TJ-, I did that for you in http://paste.ubuntu.com/9942006/
[19:32] <TJ-> heathn-irc: I suspect you have symlinks or hardlinks in the source, that have caused duplication across file systems or directories
[19:32] <Pici> 70
[19:32] <mtien> dafty, still there?
[19:32] <ax562> k11: unable to read
[19:32] <heathn-irc> TJ-, that is possible, would rsync be better to copy sym links then?
[19:32] <daftykins> mtien: yes same as last time, either ask a question or stop highlighting me.
[19:33] <k1l> "pastebinit /var/log/apt/history.log"
[19:33] <ki7rw> web browsing can be annoying - some browsers work on any site while some only work with html5 and some only work with flash
[19:33] <k1l> sorry missed the "log" in there
[19:33] <TJ-> heathn-irc: That, or the correct options to 'cp', such as '--one-file-system', '--symbolic-link', etc.
[19:33] <heathn-irc> TJ-, thank you, I will look into this.
[19:34] <mtien> my question is how to install the driver for the wireless pci card for the laptop.
[19:34] <daftykins> mtien: yeah did you ever paste the "lspci" line for it?
[19:34] <mtien> the model # is rt5390.
[19:34] <arnoud> hello: when I call: ~ df -h   my main harddisk /dev/sda1  shows 100%  use: /dev/sda1 911G  867G     0 100%  | When I remove some big files (10gb) the used G goes down but the Use% stays at 100% Having a full harddisk gives problems with logging in and updating... Is there something I can do about this?
[19:34] <ax562> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9942024
[19:34] <ax562> k11: ^
[19:34] <daftykins> mtien: would be better to show the full line please
[19:34] <mtien> ok. i'm on a different computer though.
[19:34] <TJ-> heathn-irc: The other thing that may cause it is copying of 'sparse' files, if you don't use '--spase=always' - see 'man cp' for more
[19:34] <mtien> will try.
[19:35] <ax562> k11 remember I do not have mouse pointer function
[19:35] <ax562> I might make typos :(
[19:35] <ax562> I'll try my best though
[19:35] <TJ-> ax562: THe problem was not installing it, but *removing* it! "apt-get remove gnome-control-center" caused other core packages to be removed
[19:35] <ki7rw> and why is it that nvidia-331 driver worked ok with my HDD and then when i replaced it with a SSD the driver no longer works - same ubuntu distro and version
[19:36] <daftykins> ki7rw: that makes zero sense :)
[19:36] <ki7rw> daftykins, agreed
[19:36] <daftykins> i think you did something wrong there
[19:36] <k1l> ax562: while installing the gnome-control-center it removed unity and ubuntu desktop
[19:36] <ax562> TJ- when I installed it my gui went bonkers
[19:36] <multiv> oh, i see life. Hey guys.
[19:36] <k1l> ax562: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[19:36] <ki7rw> daftykins, i tried re-installing on the SSD and still no-go
[19:36] <ax562> ok
[19:37] <dao> hi
[19:37] <daftykins> ki7rw: well you're referring to the past presumably, not something you're actually working on now, today?
[19:37] <TJ-> ax562: Doesn't surprise me. You previously removed the desktop files but whilst in memory they continue working, but installing g.c.c would cause a gui restart and the files has gone by then so it fails
[19:37] <multiv> any chance that someone here knows how to program and would be willing to help me? >.>
[19:37] <ki7rw> google search shows that others have the same issue with the driver but it makes no sense why it worked with the HDD and not on the SSD
[19:38] <ki7rw> daftykins, i'm still trying to find a solution
[19:38] <daftykins> ki7rw: so are you typing from this SSD install now?
[19:38] <TJ-> ki7rw: At which point, specifically, does it fail? During DKMS package build of the nvidia driver, during the kernel insmod at boot, or when the GUI tries to load the drivers?
[19:38] <ax562> k11: cannot install...depends on unity
[19:38] <mtien> daftykins: here it is: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 02)
[19:38] <mtien> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[19:38] <mtien> 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06)
[19:38] <mtien> 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 05)
[19:38] <mtien> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05)
[19:38] <mtien> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 05)
[19:38]  * ki7rw is working on a variety of issues - why can't this stuff just be a "slam-dunk"?
[19:38] <daftykins> mtien: only wanted one line, as i stated twice :P
[19:38] <ax562> k11: unity cannot install either depends on a bunch of stuff
[19:38] <EriC^^> KingOfOOP: still there?
[19:38] <daftykins> ki7rw: it is for everyone else i help in here :)
[19:39] <ki7rw> daftykins, yes, i'm using the SSD drive right now
[19:39] <daftykins> ki7rw: so what are you running with, nouveau?
[19:39] <ki7rw> yes
[19:39] <mtien> sorry, so i got the driver for rt5390. how do i proceed from here?
[19:40] <ax562> linux can be so frustrating at times :(
[19:40] <ki7rw> screen resolution is only 1280x768
[19:40] <daftykins> mtien: i would still prefer to see the full *single* device line
[19:40] <k1l> ax562: try to install unity
[19:40] <ax562> k11 I did
[19:40] <ax562> k11 it depends on a lot of stuff
[19:41] <k1l> ax562: do you have 3rd party repos or PPAs enabled?
[19:41] <ax562> this is how I got into this mess in the first place.dependencies.
[19:41] <ax562> I believe so
[19:41]  * ki7rw is still trying to get skype installed and trying to figure out why he can't import the database from keepassx to keepass2
[19:41] <mtien> you mean this:  02:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[19:41] <ax562> I've added them manually
[19:41] <ax562> when needed
[19:42] <daftykins> mtien: yep that's the bit, thanks
[19:42] <k1l> ax562: "pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[19:42] <ax562> ok
[19:43] <daftykins> mtien: so presumably you have booted your OS several times with this card in and you don't see an interface for e.g. "wlan0" from "ip a" typed into the terminal?
[19:43] <porten> hello, i'm having trouble with the package manager and unable to upgrade packages, can anyone provide some insight into what might be the problem/fix?
[19:43] <bekks> porten: Which kind of "trouble"?
[19:43] <mtien> i didn't type the following. i just know that wifi didn't work.
[19:43] <ax562> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9942148
[19:43] <ax562> k11: ^
[19:43] <porten> dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:
[19:43] <porten>  files list for package 'libedit2:amd64' is not a regular file
[19:43] <mtien> do you want me to type wlan0?
[19:43] <daftykins> ki7rw: listing every issue at once is not going to get you very far in here. focus on one at once :P there's no point trying to setup the rest if you trip at graphics drivers
[19:44] <porten> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9941357/
[19:44] <mtien> in the terminal?
[19:44] <porten> bekks, libedit2 is causing it to throw up on me
[19:44] <multiv> any bored programmers around? (sorry for repeat);
[19:44] <porten> bekks, both apt-get upgrade and dpkg
[19:45] <daftykins> mtien: no, "ip a" and type my nickname using tab complete at the start of every line so i know you're talking to me
[19:45] <ki7rw> i know, i know
[19:45] <bekks> porten: your package management system is missing files.
[19:45] <k1l> ax562: oh well. you added a saucy repo. that broke your system
[19:45] <multiv> probably should mention, lang: java, level: pretty much beginner/low intermmediate.
[19:45] <ki7rw> it just mystifies me as to why there are so many issues to fix
[19:45] <mtien> ip a daftykins ok.
[19:45] <ax562> saucy?
[19:45] <mtien> sorry
[19:45] <KingOfOOP> EriC^^: Yeah
[19:46] <ax562> k11
[19:46] <porten> bekks, ok, how do i go about fixing that?
[19:46]  * ki7rw has never got dovecot to work also
[19:46] <k1l> ax562: saucy is ubuntu 13.10. see your last line in your sources.list
[19:46] <k1l> ax562: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[19:46] <bekks> porten: you need to reinstall the packages mentioned in the warnings.
[19:47] <k1l> ax562: so you mixed 12.04 and 13.10 packages that depency isses made a mess and now your system is ruined.
[19:47] <porten> bekks, sudo apt-get install -f <package>?
[19:47] <TJ-> ax562: I notice one of the packages removed is "6.8.2+13.10.20131003-0ubuntu1" which is from the EOL *unsupported* 13.10. You'd need to modify the apt sources files to fetch the replacement packages from "http://old-releases.ubuntu.com" rather than "http://archive.ubuntu.com"
[19:48] <bekks> porten: you could try that, yes.
[19:48] <ax562> is there any way to fix?
[19:48] <porten> bekks, i get that same warning for all packages in that list when i try installing them
[19:48] <porten> and it stops/exits
[19:48] <ax562> TJ-: ^
[19:48] <ax562> k11: ^
[19:49] <k1l> TJ-: he mixed precise and saucy repos in his sources.list
[19:49] <ax562> TJ-: I'm on 12.04 lts 64bit
[19:49] <daftykins> precise = 12.04, saucy = 13.10 ;)
[19:49] <k1l> ax562: what gives you "lsb_release -d"?
[19:50] <TJ-> ax562: k1l Yeah, it looks a mess! You might be able to remove all the GUI-related packages (xorg, lightdm, unity, gnome, etc), correct the apt sources list, and then reinstall "ubuntu-desktop"
[19:50] <ax562> ubuntu 12.04.05 lts
[19:50] <bekks> porten: try: apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[19:51] <ax562> k11 ^
[19:51] <bekks> porten: If that doesnt work, try purging that package before.
[19:51] <TJ-> ax562: You may be able to use the apt history.log to create a list of the packages from 13.10 that need removing
[19:51] <mtien> ip a daftykins any suggestions?
[19:51] <k1l> ax562: ok. now do a "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and remove the last line in that file that contains "saucy". then save and exit
[19:51] <ax562> ok
[19:51] <k1l> ax562: after that"sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[19:52] <porten> bekks, purge or reinstall doesn't work http://paste.ubuntu.com/9942241/
[19:52] <daftykins> mtien: suggestions? i asked you to run that command and see what interface names you see, you've not done it yet :)
[19:52] <bekks> porten: You are using the wrong package name,
[19:53] <bekks> porten: Use the packages mentioned on lines 28-34 in http://paste.ubuntu.com/9941357/
[19:53] <ax562> k11 done
[19:54] <k1l> k1l> ax562: after that"sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[19:54] <ax562> k11 I do not want to upgrade
[19:54] <porten> bekks, lol, purge, reinstall, install, doesn't work for the other packages also
[19:54] <ax562> I want to stay on 12.04 lts
[19:55] <k1l> ax562: that is not a 12.04 to 12.10 upgrade
[19:55] <porten> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9942283/
[19:55] <ax562> k11 what OS versioon will I be on if I run upgrade?
[19:55] <porten> bekks, it just keeps complaining about libedit2 and finishing
[19:56] <k1l> ax562: its just for making the packages onto the last 12.04 base.
[19:56] <k1l> !distupgrade
[19:56] <bekks> porten: It doesnt complain about libedit2 at all.
[19:56] <ax562> ok
[19:56] <k1l> ax562: see that^
[19:56] <bekks> porten: It complains that the package file list is completely ruined.
[19:56] <ax562> wo
[19:56] <mtien> ok, dafty, it's here: 3: wlan1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 1000
[19:56] <mtien>     link/ether ec:55:f9:7c:ea:81 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[19:56] <bekks> porten: Did you have a power outage or something lately?
[19:56] <ax562> what was the upgrade command again
[19:56] <Xeago_> I'm trying to create a chroot for sbuild with sbuild-createchroot for trusty, it is searching for debfoster in main but that exists in universe
[19:57] <ax562> k11 ^
[19:57] <Xeago_> How does one build a trusty chroot?
[19:57] <k1l> k1l> ax562: after that"sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[19:57] <porten> bekks, I don't think so, i just booted up today and the gui package manager was failing
[19:57] <porten> bekks, and so i tried running via command line and was getting this error
[19:57] <daftykins> mtien: so it looks like that should already be working, is this normal ubuntu? do you not see wireless networks from the top right hand network manager icon?
[19:57] <ax562> k11: done
[19:58] <bekks> porten: I'd try to reboot from a live cd and run a full fsck (fsck -f) on all filesystems.
[19:58] <mtien> dafty, i see the icon but it's greyed out.
[19:58] <k1l> ax562: sudo apt-get purge gnome-control-center
[19:58] <porten> bekks, ok
[19:59] <ax562> k11: done
[19:59] <mtien> i wouldn't give me the option of choosing the wifi router in the network.
[19:59] <daftykins> mtien: right click on it and see if enable wifi / enable networking is unticked
[19:59] <mtien> ok.
[19:59] <daftykins> mtien: also what version is this? did it work from the live session?
[20:00] <porten> bekks, if i'm using disk encryption will i need to do anything special?
[20:00] <k1l> ax562: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[20:00] <bekks> porten: Of course. You need to decrypt your filesystems.
[20:00] <chizhik> i'm using now
[20:01] <mtien> i enabled wifi, however wifi network is still greyed out. it's 14.04 i believe.
[20:01] <daftykins> mtien: restart
[20:01] <mtien> i did not try live session.
[20:01] <mtien> ok.
[20:01] <ax562> ubuntu desktop depends on gnome-control-center xorg and unity
[20:01] <EriC^^> KingofOPP still there?
[20:01] <ax562> k1l: ^
[20:02] <Caleb--> does anyone know how to enable 2.1 speaker mode?
[20:02] <chizhik> porten, I have decrypted boot partition, and must type password at start
[20:02] <chizhik> sorry for bad English
[20:03] <k1l> ax562: "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d | pastebinit"
[20:04] <ax562> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9942377
[20:04] <ax562> k1l ^
[20:06] <k1l> ax562: well, there still seems to be a lot of 13.10 packages in your system which are now blocking. but i dont have the time now to help any further
[20:07] <ax562> ok thanks for the help
[20:07] <ax562> k1l can I run the 12.04 lts cd to repair?
[20:07] <ax562> or reinstall?
[20:07] <mtien> dafty, still greyed out.
[20:08] <ax562> k1l basically what would be the least time consuming/easiest way to get back on my feet?
[20:08] <mtien> maybe just reinstall everything.
[20:08] <daftykins> mtien: that won't necessarily do much, what kind of machine is it? desktop?
[20:08] <k1l> ax562: backup your data with a live cd/usb. then make a clean reinstall and write 100000 times on the board, that you will never ever mix repos again :)
[20:08] <mtien> hp pavilion
[20:08] <mtien> lap top.
[20:09] <ax562> k1l lmao OK
[20:09] <needsJavaHelp>  I have a problem with an algorithm I am trying to implement in Java. anyone willing to give it a look? I'm assuming it's a logic error.
[20:09] <daftykins> mtien: can you carry it to your router and update it over the wired network connection?
[20:09] <mtien> yes.
[20:09] <ax562> well Ill be back..thanks to all!
[20:09] <skrite> how do i change my dns server? resolve.conf says what i put there will be overwritten. This is a server, so no network manager
[20:10] <Codmadnesspro> Hi, I've installed google authenticator into ssh but since I've installed and tried to login with normal password it doesn't like it...
[20:10] <Codmadnesspro> ._,
[20:10] <mtien> i ran the update earlier today. i think i might have installed something wonky because when i boot up, i get some kind of system error. possibly some kind of ppa stuff .
[20:11] <mtien> actually, i attempted to follow the direction to install the driver but it didn't work.
[20:11] <TJ-> skrite: Network Manager can still be used on servers - it doesn't require a GUI (that's the nm-applet part). However, if the system isn't ising NM then the network config will be in "/etc/network/interfaces{.d/*}" and you can set the "dns-nameservers" there
[20:11] <daftykins> mtien: ok you didn't say that earlier, you said you downloaded it and were about to try.
[20:12] <mtien> dafty, right.  it appears the ubuntu help forum was a bit dated. i tried their method but it was posted a few years ago.
[20:13] <mtien> then i just went to the manufacturer's website and downloaded stuff directly instead.
[20:13] <daftykins> mtien: alright well yeah, it's tough to know what state the system is in now. since it's fresh, you might as well start over
[20:14] <daftykins> mtien: this time pick 'try' from the boot menu and see if wifi works from the live session
[20:14] <mtien> right now, i want to install the driver from scratch.
[20:14] <mtien> dafty, if it doesn't?
[20:15] <mtien> it seems that the particular pci card is problematic with ubuntu. it's not plug and play. you need to follow up with separate installation.
[20:15] <daftykins> possibly, but you can cross that bridge when you come to it
[20:16] <Lisac196> hi
[20:16] <Lisac196> i need some help
[20:16] <daftykins> !ask | Lisac196
[20:16] <Lisac196> i think that i have broken grub
[20:16] <Lisac196> how can i fix him
[20:16] <mtien> i also read that i need to blacklist some drivers from the one installed because it'd conflict with each other.
[20:16] <EriC^^> Lisac196: why do you say that?
[20:16] <phylock> !patience
[20:17] <mtien> since i'm not conversant using the terminal, it's daunting.
[20:18] <Lisac196> i have broken grub. i have dual boot and when starting it gone to grub rescue. how can i fix that
[20:18] <EriC^^> Lisac196: do you have a live usb?
[20:18] <Lisac196> yes
[20:18] <Lisac196> i mount
[20:18] <EriC^^> Lisac196: ok, are you in it right now?
[20:18] <Lisac196> sory i have live cd
[20:18] <Lisac196> yes
[20:18] <EriC^^> doesn't matter
[20:19] <Lisac196> say what to do
[20:19] <EriC^^> Lisac196: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[20:20] <Lisac196> i cant write | on terminal :S
[20:20] <EriC^^> Lisac196: it should be above Enter
[20:21] <Lisac196> is this to comands sudo apt-get and sudo parted or in same line?
[20:21] <EriC^^> Lisac196: one command
[20:22] <thumpba> i installed kvm and qemu-kvm but i am missing kvm-img, shouldnt that be apart of the pkgs i installed?
[20:24] <Josh> Hey guys, just installed Ubuntu... Any idea why my mouse clicks aren't registering inside any applications?
[20:24] <Lisac196> i did it
[20:24] <EriC^^> Lisac196: did it give you a link?
[20:24] <Lisac196> yes
[20:25] <EriC^^> Lisac196: paste it here
[20:25] <Lisac196> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9942658/
[20:26] <EriC^^> Lisac196: type sudo lsblk -f | pastebinit
[20:26] <Guest94184> Hey guys, just installed Ubuntu... Any idea why my mouse clicks aren't registering inside any applications?
[20:27] <Lisac196> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9942700/
[20:27] <EriC^^> Lisac196: your disks aren't showing up
[20:28] <Lisac196> what to do?
[20:28] <EriC^^> Lisac196: type pastebinit /proc/partitions
[20:28] <Trudko> Hi guys I want to create symlink for multiple files at once and I use this http://pastie.org/9872214 my question is if there is better way and if not do I have to cd into the folder with the files?
[20:28] <Lisac196> not found
[20:28] <EriC^^> Lisac196: what happened before the problem started?
[20:29] <Lisac196> i don't know it is laptop from my daughter she is 11 years
[20:29] <EriC^^> Lisac196: try to restart the live cd
[20:29] <Lisac196> ok
[20:32] <Lisac196> before that i have grub rescue and when i restart without live cd it said that there is no proper boot device
[20:32] <Lisac196> is that say something to You?
[20:33] <TJ-> Lisac196: It sounds as if the laptop's hard disk drive may have been damaged - either some file systems/partitions deleted, or even physical damage preventing it being read correctly
[20:34] <TJ-> Lisac196: Could the laptop have been dropped or knocked, or otherwise treated violently?
[20:34] <Lisac196> i don't know :S
[20:34] <Lisac196> i can try to install edubuntu again or even windows
[20:35] <TJ-> Lisac196: Try: "pastebinit <(sudo cat /var/log/kern.log)"
[20:36] <Lisac196> i'm restarting live cd
[20:37] <EriC^^> Lisac196: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit , the run the command TJ- gave you
[20:37] <EriC^^> *then
[20:38] <Lisac196> ok
[20:41] <Lisac196> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9942910/
[20:43] <TJ-> Lisac196: Looks as if the hard disk may have failed, one of the SATA devices shows "ata1: reset failed, giving up"
[20:44] <Lisac196> what to do?
[20:45] <twixzor> hu
[20:45] <twixzor> hi
[20:45] <TJ-> Lisac196: First: check if the hard disk has simply become unplugged. Open the disk drive bay, remove and reinsert the drive. Try again. If no improvement the hard drive is likely damaged. Second: remove the hard drive and have it tested on another system in case it is the disk controller on the laptop that is at fault, rather than the hard disk
[20:46] <Lisac196> ok
[20:47] <Entropy1410> hi! i would like to install amd omega driver (14.12) on ubuntu 14.10, it says glibc version 2.2 or 2.3 should be installed before installing the driver, but ldd --version says glibc 2.19 is used
[20:47] <daftykins> Entropy1410: then you're out of luck
[20:47] <EriC^^> Lisac196: try sudo parted -l again, do you see more stuff?
[20:47] <Entropy1410> but here http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalystOmegaLINReleaseNotes.aspx it even lists ubuntu 14.10 as supported
[20:48] <daftykins> Entropy1410: is your install up to date?
[20:48] <Entropy1410> as in apt-get upgrade / dist-upgrade? yes
[20:49] <Lisac196> i'm restarted laptop and i see in boot order in bios i can see only dvd lika only boot device
[20:50] <Lisac196> i'm going to open laptop to plug again hard disk
[20:50] <EriC^^> ok
[20:51] <daftykins> Lisac196: make sure you remove the battery.
[20:51] <ghhofstetter> hey guys, i had some problems yesterday, but fixed them by giving up and reinstalling ubuntu... while setting everything up, i want to know what driver for my nvidia 560M should I choose? (casual gamer but still want quality)  my options (in additional drivers) are as follows:  Xorg.X server(selected) ,  nvidia binary (both tested nd not), and nvidia legacy binary
[20:51] <Lisac196> daftykins: tnx for advice
[20:52] <daftykins> !info glibc
[20:52] <ghhofstetter> EriC^^: i just gave up yesterday, didnt have anything real important, just a couple gigs of music, thanks for the help though
[20:55] <daftykins> Entropy1410: hmm, nope i can't see any options. use an older driver and wait for 15.04 maybe
[20:55] <EriC^^> ghhofstetter: sorry, i dont recall your nick, were you using a different one?
[20:55] <Entropy1410> daftykins: thanks for looking at it
[20:55] <Entropy1410> i think i might just try
[20:55] <TJ-> !info eglibc
[20:55] <Entropy1410> the uninstaller should work
[20:55] <daftykins> Entropy1410: yeah if you haven't tried the RUN file, may as well give it a go.
[20:55] <Entropy1410> :D
[20:55] <daftykins> it won't get that far
[20:55] <ghhofstetter> EriC^^: now on my freshly installed ubuntu, xchat chose my username from this comp instead of my tablet
[20:56] <EriC^^> ghhofstetter: oh ok, what was your nick?
[20:57] <ghhofstetter> grady
[20:57] <EriC^^> oh ok
[20:57] <TJ-> !info libc6
[20:59] <daftykins> TJ-: yeah it would seem AMD are developing in the future again, they really ought to put that time machine away
[21:00] <TJ-> daftykins: In the past, you mean :)
[21:00] <daftykins> nah their docs refer to 2.20
[21:00] <Entropy1410> the .run installer tries to generate a package specifically for Ubuntu/utopic now and has not thrown any errors yet
[21:00] <TJ-> daftykins: Where-abouts? the system requirements say "glibc version 2.2 or 2.3"
[21:01] <daftykins> TJ-: yeah i thought that meant 2.19 above is too old
[21:01] <j_t> If I installed kernel 3.5 on precise, and rebooted. Though I want to go back to the original 3.2 with the latest minor upgrade. How can I easily tell grub to switch to 3.2 on a reboot?
[21:01] <TJ-> No, 2.2 was ages ago
[21:01] <daftykins> wait what? version numbers go down? :>
[21:01] <TJ-> 2.2 < 2.19
[21:01] <daftykins> oooooooh it's that nasty version numbering trickery again
[21:02] <TJ-> daftykins: These aren't decimals, they're version numbers: MAJOR . MINOR
[21:02]  * TJ- grins
[21:02] <daftykins> *nod* thanks for the tip
[21:02] <daftykins> wow, that is a really irritating way to handle things
[21:02] <daftykins> Entropy1410: so i guess you're alright after all! :)
[21:02] <daftykins> we both fell for the same trick
[21:02] <Entropy1410> it spit out four .deb packages
[21:02] <daftykins> sorry for spreading my own ignorance
[21:03] <Entropy1410> dpkg -i *.deb right?
[21:03] <j_t> I don't want to go into the grub menu manualliy
[21:03] <daftykins> yep
[21:03] <Entropy1410> thanks :)
[21:03] <daftykins> j_t: why not? installing an unsupported 3.5 is a terrible idea
[21:03] <j_t> daftykins: It's not unsupported, it's part of the ubuntu repository
[21:03] <Entropy1410> ah well
[21:04] <daftykins> j_t: incorrect, only 3.2 and 3.13 are supported with precise
[21:04] <j_t> daftykins: Well 3.5 are in the ubuntu repos
[21:04] <daftykins> please see hardware enablement stack pages for more.
[21:04] <Entropy1410> dpkg -i *.deb spits out a dependency error between fglrx-core and libopencl1
[21:04] <k1l> j_t: even things that were in the repos can loos support.
[21:04] <daftykins> j_t: yeah that doesn't make it supported.
[21:04] <j_t> daftykins: ok, so help me go back to 3.2
[21:04] <j_t> heh
[21:05] <daftykins> i don't know your situation
[21:05] <daftykins> i only saw your crazy plan :)
[21:05] <j_t> daftykins: I'll tell you my situation. I have 3.5 installed now and runnining. I want to reboot into the latest 3.2, then not use 3.5 anymore and uninstall it.
[21:05] <daftykins> uninstall 3.5 now and reboot
[21:05] <daftykins> simples
[21:06] <j_t> I don't want to manually edit the grub config if I can avoid it. or go into grub. I'd like to hit some command if possible.
[21:06] <j_t> daftykins: uninstall my running kernel?
[21:06] <daftykins> yeah, apt-get remove <3.5 kernel>
[21:06] <k1l> j_t: see this picture for the kernel support: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Ubuntu+Kernel+Release+Schedule.png
[21:06] <daftykins> correct.
[21:06] <j_t> That sounds crazy
[21:06] <j_t> It's in memory
[21:06] <daftykins> no it's fine
[21:06] <Entropy1410> does this seem like a bad idea? http://askubuntu.com/questions/540780/14-10-wine-and-fglrx-conflict
[21:06] <j_t> really?
[21:06] <mreverywhere> anybody know of a way to disable a touchscreen and use my touchpad as my only mouse? cirrently my touchpad does not do anything when i try to use it but my touchscreen works perfectly
[21:06] <k1l> j_t: you want to remove the 3.5 kernel remove the kernel package for that specific kernel
[21:09] <feword> hi
[21:09] <feword> hi all
[21:09] <feword> you are help me?
[21:10] <feword> you are help me?
[21:10] <Lisac196> EriC^^: say what to do i replugged hard. In BIOS i can see hard
[21:10] <TJ-> !ask feword
[21:11] <TJ-> !ask | feword
[21:12] <feword> how to disable the ipp (cops)?
[21:12] <Jordan_U> j_t: You've been given some options that all seem reasonable to me. 1: Reboot and choose the 3.2 kernel at the grub menu, then uninstall 3.5 (this seems most reasonable to me) 2: Edit GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub to point to the 3.2 kernel, then run "sudo update-grub", reboot, uninstall 3.5, then change GRUB_DEFAULT again so that you continue getting new kernel updates (clunky, but reasonable) 3: Uninstall the ...
[21:12] <Jordan_U> ... package for your running kernel and reboot (this should be fine as long as you don't need to load any new kernel modules before rebooting, which you shouldn't). The kernel and all loaded modules are only read from disk once, when they're initally loaded. From then on they just stay in memory.  I can't think of any other reasonable options, so I think you'll just have to choose between those 3.
[21:12] <Entropy1410> well it looks like it worked to install the fglrx driver, wish me luck im rebooting now :)
[21:13] <holms> what's the status with systemd in ubuntu?
[21:13] <j_t> Jordan_U: yea, it worked.
[21:13] <EriC^^> Lisac196: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:13] <j_t> I didn't realize you could uninstall your running kernel
[21:13] <k1l> holms: target is 16.04
[21:14] <EriC^^> Lisac196: then type sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[21:14] <backboxxfsdf> Hello
[21:14] <werner__herzog> Hi
[21:15] <ghhofstetter> i had to DC really quick, if someone responded to my question sorry, but in the additional drivers section, what driver should I use? legacy? open source? this extra nouveaw driver?
[21:15] <Lisac196> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9943291
[21:15] <apes> Bienvenidos!
[21:15] <holms> k1l: and installing it - is impossible/
[21:15] <holms> ?
[21:15] <k1l> ghhofstetter: depends on the video card you got and the ubuntu you use
[21:15] <holms> starting with init.d would be fine for me
[21:16] <k1l> holms: its in the work of transition. ubuntu used upastart so far
[21:16] <ghhofstetter> k1L: I have a nvidia 560M (yes it is a notebook, but graphics re not integrated) and i am running 14.04 x64
[21:17] <holms> seems to be 15.04
[21:17] <holms> also expectingto have systemd
[21:17] <Agrajag-_> g'day, i'm trying to install ubuntu server 14.04.1 however during the install it halts on the dbus package. when i switch to the syslog tail console, i can see it's telling me about a configuration file change with the standard Y/D/N/I options - but not in the installer gui - so it's not getting past that. any workarounds?
[21:17] <k1l> ghhofstetter: does it offer a nvidia prop. driver ?
[21:18] <k1l> holms: its already in the repos. but 16.04 is the target to become the standard init.
[21:18] <holms> oh ok
[21:18] <ghhofstetter> k1l: yes it does, one is legacy the other is not.... difference between the two?
[21:18] <EriC^^> Lisac196: you typed "type", run the command sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[21:19] <Lisac196> sory :D
[21:19] <EriC^^> no worries :D
[21:19] <k1l> ghhofstetter: with newer cards i would go with the nvidia-331
[21:19] <Lisac196> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9943356
[21:20] <EriC^^> Lisac196: try sudo lsblk -f | pastebinit
[21:20] <Entropy1410> it works!!! :)
[21:20] <EriC^^> Lisac196: it still doesn't show but there's an error this time
[21:20] <k1l> ghhofstetter: legacy might be nvidia-173.
[21:20] <k1l> ghhofstetter: look at the numbers mentioned there.
[21:20] <Lisac196> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9943379
[21:21] <ghhofstetter> k1l: ok! the legacy one is 304 not 173
[21:21] <k1l> ghhofstetter: so i would choose the higher number there. should be 331
[21:21] <ghhofstetter> ok! ill get back to you when i test it
[21:21] <ghhofstetter> thanks
[21:22] <EriC^^> Lisac196: let's see if they will mount, try sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[21:22] <holms> k1l: any chance installing it from apt-get? in 14.10 at least?
[21:22] <holms> 14.04 would be prefered :)
[21:22] <Lisac196> can't read superblock
[21:23] <k1l> holms: i would not expect a working systemd so far. debian and ubuntu both need a lot of work for the transition. there might be a 14.04 backport when around 16.04 the systemd is standard.
[21:23] <EriC^^> Lisac196: try sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[21:24] <k1l> holms: there were systemd packages for 14.10 iirc, but i would not think of using that everyday stable wise
[21:24] <Lisac196> can't read superblock
[21:24] <holms> iirc?
[21:24] <holms> i just need systemd, i'll write config my self
[21:24] <holms> currently i've got it done for celery
[21:24] <apes> holms: There is a lot of config you would need to rewrite
[21:24] <holms> oh
[21:25] <EriC^^> Lisac196: you should probably check the hard disk's condition, sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a | pastebinit
[21:25] <holms> apes: i can't use systemd, near upstart and supervisord?
[21:25] <holms> or*
[21:25] <apes> holms: If you want to use systemd, you would be a lot better off using CentOS instead
[21:25] <apes> holms: You could use multiple init systems, if you really want to use SystemD on Ubuntu
[21:25] <holms> yeap
[21:25] <holms> that's what i'm asking :D
[21:26] <apes> Make SystemD a subprocess of Upstart, and have it manage stuff under it
[21:26] <apes> systemd
[21:26] <holms> would be good for me in current situation
[21:26] <apes> I keep capitalizing it for some reason
[21:26] <holms> unless it's possible to upgrade from 14.10 to 16.10
[21:26] <k1l> holms: so far they rewrote logind to work with upstart etc. they are transitioning the init to systemd but that needs time and work. the target is 16.04. i would not think of a running systemd in 14.10 and for 14.04 only a backport when systemd is stable in 16.04
[21:26] <Codmadnesspro> Hi, I've installed google authenticator into ssh but since I've installed and tried to login with normal password it doesn't like it...
[21:26] <k1l> holms: why do you need systemd?
[21:27] <holms> because i have a configuration for few services
[21:27] <Jordan_U> holms: Why do you need systemd? Why do you need Ubuntu? What are your end goals?
[21:27] <holms> which i've spend 20+ hours to automate
[21:27] <apes> If you want to run systemd under upstart, you might be better off using uselessd, since that removes a lot of the non-init system parts of systemd
[21:27] <holms> and seems to be prod machine is in ubuntu 14.04
[21:27] <holms> (misscommunication you know..)
[21:27] <k1l> holms: so you want to invest 200+ hours in getting a running systemd in ubuntu 14.04?
[21:27] <Lisac196> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9943463/
[21:27] <holms> k1l: running systemd under init.d
[21:27] <apes> k1l: Probably more like 2000
[21:27] <holms> like supervisor.d works now for example
[21:27] <holms> :)
[21:28] <EriC^^> Lisac196: try sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit
[21:28] <apes> holms: Is there a solid reason why you cannot use CentOS instead of Ubuntu?
[21:28] <holms> apes: because we have shit load of stuff running in there
[21:28] <apes> Is it not portable to CentOS?
[21:28] <holms> 100% sure in centos, i'll have 200+ hours to fix stuff to make it work
[21:29] <Lisac196> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9943474
[21:29] <holms> celery, django, virtualenv, firewalls and etc
[21:29] <holms> (everything is automated with ansible)
[21:29] <Jordan_U> holms: A better phrasing for what you want to do is that you want to "start some services with systemd while running upstart as PID1", which sounds like more work than either getting things working with a systemd based distro or converting to upstart scripts.
[21:29] <apes> You might be able to find an Ubuntu based distro that has already started using systemd
[21:29] <k1l> holms: for the start: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[21:30] <holms> Jordan_U: i thought it can be simple as installing supservisor.d , launching it with init.d (which is automatically done anyway) and just adding supervisord config for my service would do the work
[21:30] <EriC^^> Lisac196: i dont know much about your problem ( others probably do though )
[21:30] <holms> k1l: thanks
[21:32] <Lisac196> EriC^^: anybody else can help?
[21:32] <Lisac196> or I must format hard
[21:32] <EriC^^> daftykins: TJ- ?
[21:33] <Jordan_U> holms: Does supervisord use the same configuration format as systemd?
[21:33] <daftykins> EriC^^: sorry haven't been paying attention, what's up?
[21:34] <holms> Jordan_U: it's very simmilar
[21:34] <holms> Jordan_U: i just starting standalone service with tons of arguments and global vars
[21:34] <holms> i've ported this to systemd + changed configuration drastically (appeared to be celery wasn't daemonized)
[21:35] <Lisac196> EriC^^: will you explain or i must paste something?
[21:35] <holms> getting to upstart, is waste of client money in here )) upgrading 14.10 to 15.10 would be probably more simple
[21:35] <Jordan_U> holms: If you can transition to using supervisord then that should work fine with upstart. supervisord appears to have no relation to systemd.
[21:35] <EriC^^> Lisac196: daftykins his hard disk wasn't showing up, so he plugged it back in, and now sudo parted -l saysError: /dev/sda: unrecognised disk label , the output of smartctl -a is http://paste.ubuntu.com/9943474/
[21:36] <Jordan_U> holms: For discussion of 15.04 and later please join #ubuntu+1 .
[21:36] <holms> k
[21:36] <daftykins> EriC^^: oh dear, no option to check the disk in another machine i take it?
[21:36] <EriC^^> Lisac196: can you check it in another machine?
[21:36] <Lisac196> not now
[21:36] <Lisac196> i will tomorow
[21:37] <Lisac196> or some day after tomorrow
[21:37] <Lisac196> thanks for everything
[21:37] <TJ-> Lisac196: The fact you're got the drive talking to the operating system might be a good sign
[21:37] <Jordan_U> holms: Please join #ubuntu+1 :)
[21:37] <TJ-> Lisac196: Can you do this again for us? "pastebinit <(sudo cat /var/log/kern.log)"
[21:38] <Lisac196> i hear now some sounds from it (i think from it)
[21:38] <TJ-> Lisac196: sounds could be a bad thing, especially if they're grinding/knocking sounds
[21:39] <Lisac196> i'm doing sudo cat
[21:40] <Lisac196> i put | pastebinit is this ok? because it is working something, but i can't see
[21:40] <cromagi> does ubuntu 14.04 lts 32 bit have any problems with wireless wifi cards not working?
[21:40] <k1l> cromagi: depends on the wifi hardware
[21:40] <cromagi> Mine is not working at all
[21:41] <TJ-> Lisac196: If you issue the command I gave you inside the double quotation marks, pastebinit should give you a URL you can give us to view the contents of the log file
[21:41] <k1l> cromagi: details matter
[21:41] <Lisac196> yes i know that but it works and works :S
[21:41] <cromagi> i have a Broadcom corporation:wmP54GS v1.1 802.llg wireless -G PCI adapter
[21:41] <cromagi> And I cannot get it to work
[21:41] <cromagi> I have ran updates on my pc
[21:42] <Lisac196> ok sory wrong comand :D
[21:42] <TJ-> Lisac196: pastebinit might be sit quiet for a while if there is no network connection, or a poor one.
[21:42] <daftykins> Lisac196: if you hear repetitive sounds from the hard disk, it's probably faulty
[21:42] <cromagi> I have also been to additional drivers
[21:43] <TJ-> cromagi: What does "lspci -nn | grep WMP54" report?
[21:43] <Lisac196> day something like ti tiii tiiiii                        ti tiii tiiiiiii                         ti tiii tiiiiiii                         ti tiii tiiiiiii  ......
[21:44] <Lisac196> daftykins: ^^
[21:44] <TJ-> Lisac196: haha! best description of a drive I've seen in a long time
[21:44] <daftykins> yeah that's a very very bad sign
[21:44] <TJ-> Lisac196: Looks like the drive has failed.
[21:45] <Lisac196> i think so
[21:45] <evilrob> I'm trying to do a remote install of 14.04 via the curses based installer.  I'm trying to configure root as a md raid device.  I don't think this installer will actually let me do that.
[21:45] <Lisac196> and kern is so long or something because it is working and working
[21:45] <cromagi> how do i get that weird vertical dash?
[21:46] <Lisac196> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9943652
[21:46] <crazyhead42> Pipe? |?
[21:46] <cromagi> yes
[21:46] <crazyhead42> It's on the \ key, right above the enter
[21:46] <crazyhead42> on my keyboard anyway.
[21:46] <cromagi> |
[21:46] <cromagi> ok
[21:47] <crazyhead42> What is the directory which holds other users directory? (I know it's called "home" but I don't know how to navigate to there
[21:47] <Pici> crazyhead42: /home/
[21:47] <crazyhead42> Also, how do I do the setup for new users the first time?
[21:47] <TJ-> Lisac196: Definitely a failed disk. The kern.log is full of disk read errors
[21:48] <Lisac196> ok
[21:48] <Pici> crazyhead42: from the console?
[21:48] <Lisac196> i'm going to format him if i can do that or new disk
[21:48] <Lisac196> thanks for all
[21:48] <crazyhead42> Prefferably from the shell
[21:48] <TJ-> Lisac196: The disk has failed, can't read nor write to it. Replacement is the only option
[21:48] <Pici> crazyhead42: adduser someusername
[21:49] <Lisac196> ok
[21:49] <Pici> crazyhead42: then answer the prompts.
[21:49] <Lisac196> tnx
[21:49] <Lisac196> by
[21:49] <crazyhead42> It's already an existing user
[21:49] <crazyhead42> But their user directory isn't set up for some reason
[21:49] <Pici> crazyhead42: Did you use useradd instead of adduser?
[21:49] <crazyhead42> It only has examples.desktop in it
[21:49] <crazyhead42> maybe... I don't know...
[21:50] <crazyhead42> No. I used adduser
[21:50] <Pici> crazyhead42: Just copy the contents of /etc/skel/  into their home filder then.
[21:50] <ghhofstetter> k1l: I am back after trying both proprietary drivers, i cant get them to work the steam app i try to open says could not required openGL enrty point "glGetError"
[21:51] <Pici> crazyhead42: and set the ownership recursively to them.
[21:51] <ghhofstetter> "could not find**"
[21:51] <crazyhead42> Can I have the coppy command?
[21:51] <NegativeFlare> crazyhead42: cp
[21:52] <crazyhead42> frell, cd /etc/skell didn't navigate
[21:53] <Pici> crazyhead42: Is there a reason why you don't think that the user wasn't setup properly?
[21:53] <crazyhead42> wait, so I type that into the user with the exampes.desktop?
[21:54] <crazyhead42> And I don't think it set up propperly because the directories in my home are not in the other user's home.
[21:54] <crazyhead42> Frell... I'm out of time. Have to go - my next class doesn't have wifi I can use to access the IRC. Thanks for what you gave me already!
[21:55] <Pici> crazyhead42: I'm not sure those are setup until they login for the first time into the desktop...
[21:55] <Pici> I don't have them on my server installs.
[21:56] <r_await> Lisac196 :  I know he left, but maybe the rest of you are interested.  With HDDs I like to check Current_Pending_Sector Offline_Uncorrectable Reallocated_Sector_Ct first when looking at smartctl.  Example: sudo smartctl -d ata -a /dev/sda|egrep 'Current_Pending_Sector|Offline_Uncorrectable|Reallocated_Sector_Ct'.  If any of the values are above 5 and you haven't seen any issues, start monitoring this drive and think about moving 
[22:06] <j_t> Can I do 'apt-get install linux-image' on trusty? I know I can do it on precise, I'm getting errors from trusty though.
[22:07] <Ben64> j_t: pastebin errors
[22:08] <TJ-> j_t: To identify the actual binary package names, use "apt-cache search --names-only linux-image"
[22:08] <j_t> Ben64: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1bb5f40c89a6a4c600bf
[22:09] <Ben64> j_t: that gives you the answer right there
[22:10] <Ben64> j_t: what are you trying to accomplish
[22:10] <j_t> Ben64: I want to setup puppet to ensure latest on the linux-image. for precise this works fine. for trusty I'm getting this.
[22:10] <j_t> Ben64: I basically want to stay in the major kernel supported by the distribution, but go to the latest minor version of that kernel.
[22:11] <j_t> for precise, apt-get install linux-image accomplishes this I believe
[22:11] <Ben64> j_t: you can accomplish that with a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:11] <j_t> Ben64: I only want to upgrade linux-image. that will upgrade all kinds of things, java, apache, etc etc. and that could cause problems
[22:12] <Ben64> it could cause more problems to not upgrade everything
[22:12] <k1l> j_t: linux-image will install the standard kernel and headers, yes
[22:13] <TJ-> j_t: I think "apt-get install linux-image-generic" will do it, if you're using the -generic branch of kernels
[22:14] <k1l> j_t: ubuntu will not increase the program versions on a LTS. so there is no reason to not install the updates.
[22:15] <user3> \exit
[22:15] <user3> \quit
[22:15] <j_t> hmm, odd.
[22:15] <j_t> ok
[22:15] <j_t> so for precise it's linux-image and for trusty it's linux-image-generic?
[22:15] <k1l> j_t: you are having a high risk to have vulnerable services running.
[22:15] <k1l> !info linux-image precise
[22:16] <j_t> k1l: Well I'm not saying we don't upgrade the security packages.
[22:16] <j_t> but dist-upgrade upgrades everything
[22:16] <k1l> j_t: you just said it
[22:16] <k1l> j_t: dist-upgrade is not a 14.04 to 14.10 upgrade
[22:16] <j_t> there are non-security package upgrades as well from dist-upgrade;
[22:17] <j_t> yes, I know
[22:17] <k1l> but for a new kernel you need dist-upgrade. since it installs a new kernel package.
[22:18] <Jordan_U> j_t: Bug fixes are not likely to cause regressions, and may prevent you from hitting a bug you just don't know can affect you yet.
[22:18] <Klo> hello
[22:19] <j_t> k1l: no, I can do apt-get install linux-image-generic and that gets me the new kernel. without dist-upgrade.
[22:19] <Ben64> j_t: you're solving a problem that doesn't exist, and in the process, likely creating many more
[22:19] <k1l> j_t: yes. but do you really look after every package that is installed and track down the vulnerabilities?
[22:20] <SpNg> when using start-stop-daemon to daemonize a process the binds to a privledged port and using —chuid, how is start-stop-daemon allowing the process to bind to the privledged port with the user is not a super user?
[22:21] <k1l> j_t: we have lots of people in here afraid of updates and they are thinking they can keep their sevices secure themselves. but in reality they cant. ubuntu (and other distros) got a whole security team working on that fulltime. why not use that service?
[22:22] <djmitche> I think I have a bug in apt, but I want to look with gdb first.  So, I need debug symbols.  But there's no 'apt-dbg' package.  How can I get debug symbols?
[22:22] <k1l> j_t: but enough of that from my side. its your decision. i am just saying ubuntu got a working solution already for that
[22:22] <TJ-> j_t: To restrict an upgrade to security, you can for example do "apt-get --target-release trusty-security dist-upgrade"
[22:23] <TJ-> j_t: comparing the --target-release with a regular dist-upgrade, I see the regular upgrade suggests more packages
[22:25] <xcyclist> Anyone know of a deobfuscation command line utility for javascript?
[22:26] <TJ-> djmitche: You need "apt-dbgsym" from the ddeb repository
[22:26] <TJ-> djmitche: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Non-built-in_debug_symbol_packages_.28.2A-dbgsym.29
[22:27] <djmitche> ok, thanks
[22:27] <Klo> hello
[22:27] <Klo> !list
[22:29] <j_t> Is there a libc metapackage for trusty and precise that has the same name?
[22:30] <j_t> libc-bin?
[22:32] <Ben64> j_t: you're really making things more difficult than it needs to be
[22:39] <strtok> is there an efficient way (e.g. not using aliases) to bind a large range of IPs to an interface given a range (e.g. 1-128) or cidr?
[22:43] <TJ-> strtok: something like " IFACE="eth0"; SUBNET="192.168.1"; CIDR="24"; for d in  {128..140}; do echo ip addr add ${SUBNET}.$d/${CIDR} dev $IFACE; done " ?
[22:44] <jalazmi> dear all
[22:45] <jalazmi> need a help with siege stress test
[22:45] <jalazmi> anyone could help m
[22:45] <jalazmi> me
[22:47] <david_> jalazmi, tell us your problem maybe someone can help
[22:47] <nik_> can anyone tell me where to get "sycoca4" from? apparently its a KDE config thing
[22:48] <jalazmi> david, when ever i run siege command it keep giving me connection refused
[22:48] <jalazmi> [error] socket: -191035648 connection refused.: Connection refused
[22:49] <huinews> anyone know a forum or irc channel for discussions regarding fountain, the open screenplayformat?
[22:50] <david_> jalazmi, what's the full command you are using
[22:51] <jalazmi> siege MyTargetHost
[22:51] <jalazmi> david,  siege MyTargetHost
[22:51] <david_> jalazmi, add -v and pastebin the output
[22:52] <david_> jalazmi, is the site hosted in the cloud or locally
[22:53] <krux__> I'm having trouble with cups...I recently added a printer via localhost:631 and now it won't let me delete and install a new one
[22:53] <jalazmi> in cloud
[22:54] <erkules> Does ubuntu 14.10 changed how to configure systemd? I would expect the default target as a link to /etc/systemd/systemd/default.target. But nothing like this in 14.10
[22:54] <krux__> It complains about me being unauthorized and requiring root priv
[22:54] <david_> huinews, couldn't find any channels on freenode relating to fountain
[22:54] <Jordan_U> erkules: Ubuntu 14.10 still uses upstart.
[22:55] <erkules> Jordan_U: Ok so systemd is used like in 14.04 then. thx
[22:55] <k1l> erkules: target for systemd as standard is 16.04. from 15.04 on you can install it.
[22:56] <jalazmi> david, HTTP/1.1 200   0.03 secs:     217 bytes ==> GET  /
[22:56] <huinews> Thanks david_ im on cell at the moment so its hard to do a broader search
[22:56] <huinews> #trelby
[22:56] <huinews> Sorry
[22:59] <OerHeks>  i would run: siege -c5 -d5 -r5 -v http://www.mywebsite.com/  # 5 users, 5 sec delay and run 5 times
[23:00] <codekipple> I'm having some trouble with ubuntu based servers and the official cloud images used for vagrant. Is there anyone around that might be able to help?
[23:00] <codekipple> i think it's to do with this https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1315501
[23:02] <jalazmi> OerHeks, why you run it like this?
[23:07] <david_> jalazmi, to simuate mutliple users for stress testing
[23:07] <O_OniGiri> hi there, i am having problems with notify-send, it doesn't disappear unless I click on it, can someone help me? (using xubuntu)
[23:09] <jshanab> I am having trouble with the lubuntu liveusb. it boots great but where is the install icon?
[23:11] <jshanab> Whoa. backstp here. Installed image would not boot so I made a liveUSB. When it booted I assumed it was the liveUSB but it switched over to the HD image which will not boot on it's own. WASSUP
[23:11] <TJ-> jshanab: installed the boot loader to the removable device?
[23:12] <ghhofstetter_> hello everybody, I am playing dota 2 on ubuntu, my fixed my graphics so everything works, but now I find my ping is unusually high, i dont know how to make sure its ubuntu or something else, i go onto ookla with a ping of 10 and 25 mb/s
[23:13] <jshanab> Only if the installer provided did that. which would be stupid. I'll check the grub.conf
[23:15] <bekks> ghhofstetter_: A ping of 10ms is perfectly ok in the internet :)
[23:16] <ghhofstetter_> bekks: ookla is a speed test site, i get 10 ms there, but in dota 2 i get over 1000 when hosting on the west coast
[23:16] <bekks> ghhofstetter_: The ping to ookla is a n issue of the entire connection from your pc to that specific server.
[23:17] <Corvette> Trying to install ubuntu via live USB. ubi-language fails and ubi-partman fails. Bad install media?
[23:18] <Josh1053> Can anyone help? Mouse works to click on taskbar, etc, but doesn't work in apps (lmb & rmb don't work)
[23:19] <k1l_> _3o3___10: could you please reduce the clients and join/parting in here?
[23:20] <O_OniGiri> hi there, i am having problems with notify-send, it doesn't disappear unless I click on it, can someone help me? (using xubuntu)
[23:20] <ttgg> teamviewer sucks but I can't use nomachine or vnc here T_T
[23:21] <ttgg> Teamviewer for Ubuntu? = Teamviewer with a Wine layer and no way to actually sign into a Teamviewer account because it freezes when trying to login
[23:22] <Jordan_U> Corvette: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[23:22] <ttgg> Does anyone have a good teamviewer alternative for ubuntu that's NOT vnc or no machine?
[23:22] <OerHeks> O_OniGiri,   -t, --expire-time=TIME > http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/notify-send.1.html
[23:23] <O_OniGiri> OerHeks: I know, but how do I edit it for the volume indicator?
[23:23] <O_OniGiri> If I adjust the volume, the volume indicator (which I think is done by using notify-send) doesn't disappear unless I click on it
[23:23] <david_> ttgg, doesn't landscape offer remote desktop sessions
[23:23] <Corvette> Jordan_U I'm going to first try making a new disk
[23:24] <fry_> How do I search a files out of a set of directories and sub directories for a particular phrase, using terminal?
[23:24] <ttgg> david, what's landscape?
[23:25] <ttgg> nvm, installing package now
[23:25] <bekks> fry_: grep -r :)
[23:25] <Bashing-om> Corvette: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck ??
[23:25] <fry_> bekks: grep -r "phrase"?
[23:25] <david_> ttgg, https://landscape.canonical.com/
[23:25] <david_> ttgg, http://askubuntu.com/questions/549809/how-do-i-install-landscape-for-personal-use
[23:25] <bekks> fry_: No, grep -r "phrase" "starthere", e.g. grep -r "mytext" *.txt
[23:26] <david_> ttgg, "You can manage machines remotely from anywhere you can access a web browser. "
[23:26] <fry_> bekks: I have used a better solution in the past. I don't necessarily know what the types of the files will be.
[23:26] <NegativeFlare> !samba
[23:26] <ttgg> Yeah, but what's this bs where it's not a free utility?
[23:26] <bekks> fry_: So which solution did you use then?
[23:26] <david_> ttgg, check the other link....
[23:26] <fry_> bekks: searching. I'll let you know when I find it
[23:27] <david_> ttgg, nevermind, don't like your attitude
[23:27] <ttgg> oh david, is this just for accessing on the same network?
[23:27] <ttgg> I need to be able to hit this thing from another city
[23:27] <david_> ttgg, READ
[23:28] <fry_> bekks: grep -r "phrase" /directory/of/files
[23:28] <fry_> bekks: grep -r "phrase" /directory/of/files/*
[23:28] <fry_> I'm not sure the * matters though
[23:28] <bekks> fry_: Which is the same as I just told you :)
[23:28] <fry_> Well, you told me to search using a particular file type. I didn't remember grep and was unsure of whether or not it was required.
[23:29] <fry_> At any rate, thank you for your help and taking the time to reply
[23:29] <fry_> haha
[23:29] <david_> ttgg, rather than skimming the first page and asking questions
[23:29] <bekks> fry_: I told you an example.
[23:29] <OerHeks> O_OniGiri, Open the "Settings Editor" (Alt+F2 and type: xfce4-settings-editor) and look for xfce4-notifyd and see if you can edit
[23:29] <NegativeFlare> hmph
[23:29] <NegativeFlare> I see a lot of clones
[23:30] <O_OniGiri> OerHeks: Thanks :D
[23:30] <O_OniGiri> OerHeks: That fixed it for me, thanks a lot :)
[23:30] <OerHeks> have fun!
[23:30] <Corvette> Bashing-om, good call. Found three errors in installation media. I'm reflashing it now.
[23:31] <Josh1503> Any ideas how to stop Ubuntu targetting inactive windows with the mouse?
[23:31] <Bashing-om> Corvette: :) Just covering the bases .
[23:31] <ttgg> I read both pages and some additional material as well. Landscape is not going to be a solution that will work for me. Thank you for suggesting it though.
[23:32] <Corvette> With a 120GB SSD and 500GB HDD, is one like to notice a difference in speed going from MBR to GPT?
[23:33] <Jordan_U> Corvette: There is no speed difference between msdos and GPT disk labels.
[23:33] <ttgg> I'm using "borrowed" server space on a corporate network that blocks all of the ports and traffic types I need to make VNC and/or No Machine work. Teamviewer does allow me to connect to the server remotely, but I can't sign into my Teamviewer account because they don't actually support Linux, they just support Wine.
[23:33] <Josh1503> Seriously guys someone people help T.T
[23:33] <Corvette> Jordan_U, then the advantage is only in GPT's ability to handle larger disks?
[23:34] <ttgg> Josh, I'm not sure what you mean about targetting inactive windows with the mouse
[23:34] <Jordan_U> Corvette: That and not having to worry about primary vs extended vs logical partitions.
[23:34] <david_> ttgg, you can run vnc over http
[23:35] <ttgg> Alright, now you have my attention. That's probably what I'll be doing then. Thanks.
[23:35] <Corvette> Jordan_U, when installing Windows or Ubuntu, such partitions should be primary correct?
[23:35] <Josh1503> ttgg: When I open a window, for example, the first on boot this time was Firefox, all of my mouse click will be directed to that window, even if I open something over it
[23:35] <ttgg> That sounds like a bug and not a feature. :<
[23:35] <Josh1503> It's happened every time I've re-installed Ubuntu :L
[23:36] <ttgg> Are you using any special type of mouse? Bluetooth? Multi-button? PS/2? USB?
[23:36] <whoever> Hi all, I am on 14 and do not see a ppe for k9copy, is thre one that works ?
[23:36] <dataf3l> Hello everybody
[23:36] <ttgg> Do you install anything else aside from Ubuntu?
[23:36] <ttgg> Which Ubuntu version are you installing?
[23:36] <Josh1503> Multi-button USB: The R.A.T. 5 Gaming mouse
[23:36] <Jordan_U> Corvette: Ubuntu can have any of its partitions be primary or logical, it doesn't matter. I think that Windows' System Partition needs to be primary, but I'm not sure. If you're dual booting with Windows note that Windows can't boot from GPT on BIOS based systems (Ubuntu can).
[23:36] <Josh1503> And no, just Ubuntu installed, 14.04.1
[23:38] <ttgg> Josh just a brief search it looks like you're not the only person experiencing issues with this mouse and various distros. It doesn't seem to play well with xorg or something.
[23:38] <Josh1503> God damnit
[23:38] <Josh1503> I can't even afford another mouse rn T.T
[23:39] <Josh1503> The student life is reeeaaallll
[23:39] <ttgg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2185080
[23:39] <ttgg> Did you already attempt that?
[23:39] <Josh1503> Oh nah
[23:39] <Josh1503> I hadn't found anything relating to my situation tbh haha
[23:39] <Josh1503> Will do, one sec
[23:40] <ttgg> It looks like that mouse just needed a manual remap in the xorg config. Best of luck to you sir.
[23:40] <codekipple> success! got my problem sorted... i think
[23:42] <Josh1503> I tried the command given in terminal and it's coming back as 'Command not found' :P
[23:42] <vilgot> hi
[23:44] <ttgg> I got you, found a better solution at launchpad.
[23:45] <bekks> ttgg: which one, if you mind to share?
[23:46] <TJ-> Josh1503: post #2 here seems to show a solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2099208
[23:46] <Josh1503> Will check it out, thanks!
[23:50] <TJ-> Josh1503: which simply means to create that as a file and write it to "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/99-rat5.conf"
[23:53] <budg> can you still order ubuntu cd's
[23:54] <ttgg> I'll sell you Ubuntu CD's as long as you don't tell Canonical I did it
[23:54] <ttgg> ;p
[23:54] <budg> they used to send them for free
[23:54] <k1l_> budg: not in the way they used to back then
[23:55] <TJ-> Josh1503: You can do that from a terminal with: "sudo wget -O /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/99-rat5.conf https://iam.tj/projects/misc/rat5.conf" (I've put the file on my server for you to make it easy). The restart the GUI by log-out and log-in
[23:55] <Josh1503> I would but I'm stuck in nano atm x'D
[23:56] <ttgg> control + x
[23:56] <TJ-> Josh1503: Ctrl+Alt+T to get a Terminal I think
[23:56] <ttgg> ctrl + x will at least get him out of nano
[23:57] <Josh1503> Yeah I'm back into terminal :P