[05:02] <Nixus> anyone having an issue where some icons aren't changing in the alt-tab menU?
[10:00] <Meerkat> I have a problem with xfdesktop that was not fixed with 4.11.8-0ubuntu0.1. When I log out/log in my desktop icons are moved to the top left, ignoring whatever placements I had before. In ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/ there is a new .rc file that doesn't seem to be used. And the one I do use has been updated with incorrect data.
[10:49] <brainwash> Meerkat: does this particular problem occur more often now with the new version?
[10:52] <Meerkat> I do not remember. I upgraded to this version a while back before it was added to the repos.
[10:53] <brainwash> there is https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11266
[10:54] <brainwash> which targets version 4.11.8
[11:05] <Meerkat> what does that mean?
[11:08] <brainwash> well, please read the bug report comment :)
[11:11] <Meerkat> I read all comments. Someone writes that they will revert commit where the bug was introduced. That was 2 weeks ago.
[11:14] <brainwash> you could add a comment yourself and ask how things are going
[11:23] <Meerkat> nah, I'll just wait another 6 months. I don't feel like creating new email addresses and remembering yet another account.
[11:28] <brainwash> we will contact the xfdesktop maintainer and try to resolve the issue soon (as fast as possible hopefully)
[13:14] <inerkick> Hi friends. How to connect to Mobile broadband. Is it possible through network manager? or any other app
[13:15] <inerkick> when I connect my modem(dongle) it not shows options to connect hence ask
[13:41] <xubuntu360> Hello.
[13:58] <spicypixel> is XFCE ever going to get an update?
[13:59] <cfhowlett> spicypixel, best ask the #xfce channel
[13:59] <spicypixel> I guess so :(
[13:59] <spicypixel> guess xubuntu will be running 4.10 for the foreseeable
[14:00] <Luyin> use gentoo, there you can have xfce 4.11. but I don't see the point in that yet.
[14:02] <Luyin> http://packages.gentoo.org/category/xfce-base
[14:03] <spicypixel> yeah arch has the packages too
[14:04] <spicypixel> get a feeling lxqt will be done first
[14:10] <brainwash> spicypixel: but xubuntu does use xfce 4.11
[14:10] <spicypixel> any improvements worth mentioning over 4.10?
[14:10] <brainwash> only the about dialog is still showing 4.10
[14:12] <brainwash> many things have changed, but mostly little things have been fixed
[14:12] <spicypixel> ah nice
[14:13] <brainwash> for example http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/tree/NEWS
[15:54] <recon_lap> hi all, trying to install xubuntu onto an old rack sever, getting a black screen after selecting the install language, any tips?
[15:54] <recon_lap> 14.04 btw
[16:06] <xubuntu150> Hi, I need some help copying files and whole directories from a windows HD to a DVD
[16:06] <xubuntu150> I have a DVD drive and writable DVDs
[16:07] <xubuntu150> And I can access the windwos HD from the file manager
[16:07] <xubuntu150> No one there?  OK Thanks!
[16:18] <rosaecaeruleae> would this work? sudo apt-add-key E6A17451DC058F40
[16:20] <recon_lap> is apt-add-key even a command?
[16:21] <rosaecaeruleae> i dont know, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9939248/ << thats what I need to fix
[16:23] <recon_lap> rosaecaeruleae: you can probably make it ignore the error and force the install.
[16:36] <rosaecaeruleae> Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/trusty-getdeb/apps/binary-amd64/Packages  403  Forbidden << how do I fix that?
[16:43] <recon_lap> rosaecaeruleae: not sure, but forbidden means the server replied but will not allow you access, maybe it's a problem on the mirror,
[16:43] <recon_lap> rosaecaeruleae: maybe you should try a different mirror
[16:45] <rosaecaeruleae> trying that
[16:53] <rosaecaeruleae> how do I find a list of all unauthenticated sources? all I see is 2 403 errors
[16:53] <rosaecaeruleae> but nothing regarding an unauthenticated source
[16:53] <holstein> rosaecaeruleae: try using the officially supported repositories
[16:54] <holstein> rosaecaeruleae: if you have issues with "getdeb.net", you'll have to ask them how that works..
[16:54] <holstein> them being, the providers/supporters of getdeb
[16:56] <holstein> rosaecaeruleae: wow.. you are mixing sources.. utopic sources and trusty sources. thats a bad idea
[16:56] <rosaecaeruleae> holstein, how do you know that?
[16:56] <recon_lap> right, going to try the text only install :)
[16:57] <holstein> rosaecaeruleae: i suggest, remove/clean-up any packages you have installed from unsupported sources, and get "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to complete without error.. then, address  your needs with repo packages when possible.. then, move on to ppa's or building from source.. etc
[17:29] <recon_lap> so much for that text installer, the one i downloaded it the same as the live cd
[17:32] <holstein> recon_lap: should end up with the same
[17:32] <holstein> let me look back to find your specific issue..
[17:33] <holstein> recon_lap: on a "rack server", could be as simple as the GPU drivers..
[17:33] <holstein> recon_lap: can you get a minimal, no x, server, headless install?
[17:33] <holstein> !mini
[17:34] <holstein> recon_lap: thats where i will start with an install on hardware that "Fails" to run a live environment, after i test the hardware
[17:34] <recon_lap> holstein: no internet connection to use here with it, might try that at another location though.
[17:34] <holstein> recon_lap: sure.. *dont* use the internet
[17:35] <holstein> recon_lap: just install the minimal environment, or the server, no-x environment.. try and isolate the system components out, and test them..
[17:35] <recon_lap> holstein: it's a question of not having the correct wires/plugs to connect it with
[17:36] <holstein> recon_lap: ok.. xubuntu wont be able to supplement the need for proper cables in any way.. expecting it to will just waste time
[17:37] <recon_lap> holstein: well, it is what it is, wish the bloody thing would just work though
[17:39] <holstein> recon_lap: if you want it to "just work", consider purchasing a product that promises linux support.. when you take hardware that is not intended to run linux, and not intended to be a desktop, and try "Re-purposing" it, it can be a challenge
[17:39] <holstein> !nomodeset | recon_lap
[17:40] <holstein> recon_lap: i assume you have tried all the boot modes in that menu.. i will try all of them when trying to boot hardware i am unfamiliar with.. i want to see that live environment ASAP
[17:41] <recon_lap> holstein: I'm trying, takes forever to boot and easy to miss the option screens
[17:41] <holstein> recon_lap: sure.. i wouldnt expect this process to be time saving in any way..
[17:42] <holstein> you are fighting with something that potentially may not promise linux support, and, you are fighting the basic design of the product by trying to make it a desktop.. you will need a lot of hands-on troubleshooting and testing
[18:18] <sjoshi> Hello, I am facing a very weird problem, My Xubuntu logsoff whenever i open opera browser second time...
[18:18] <sjoshi> opera version - 27
[18:18] <sjoshi> Xubuntu - 141.0
[18:18] <sjoshi> 14.10*
[23:27] <dchilano> hi guys
[23:27] <knome> hello
[23:28] <xubuntu24w> Hello. I have never asked for help in here, but here we go. The battery notification is greyed out in my panel. You guys know a fix?
[23:28] <dchilano> I just downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-346.35.run
[23:28] <dchilano> how do I install it?
[23:29] <xangua> dchilano: it is recommended to install the packages from ubuntu official repositories
[23:29] <knome> dchilano, why don't you use the drivers from the repository?
[23:29] <dchilano> how do I do that?
[23:30] <xubuntu24w> http://askubuntu.com/questions/18747/how-do-i-install-run-files
[23:30] <knome> dchilano, in the settings manager, check out additional drivers
[23:30] <slickymaster> xubuntu24w: If its greyed out, it means it must still be on a panel somewhere.
[23:30] <dchilano> thank you Knome
[23:30] <slickymaster> xubuntu24w: how many panels do you have? Have you checked the Items tab for each panel that you have to see if its there?
[23:31] <xubuntu24w> i only have one panel
[23:31] <xubuntu24w> here is an image to reference
[23:31] <xubuntu24w> http://postimg.org/image/x9jyczqm1/
[23:32] <dchilano> Knome: in settings manager it says no additional drivers available
[23:32] <knome> dchilano, ok... so why do you think you need an additional driver?
[23:33] <dchilano> Knome: I thought I had to manually install it for my nvidia gt740
[23:33] <knome> dchilano, if your system is working well (with the open source driver), you're good as is :)
[23:33] <xubuntu24w> Slickymaster -: the problem is not that it is greyed out in the panel manager, but the actual background of it is grey :S sorry for my bad explanation
[23:34] <knome> xubuntu24w, looks like a theme that doesn't support the gtk version you are running
[23:36] <slickymaster> xubuntu24w, what knome said ^^
[23:36] <xubuntu24w> hmmm, it is just standard Numix, i think xubuntu comes with it. I also tried changing the theme, and it didn't seem to fix it :/
[23:37] <dchilano> Knome: I was watching a youtube video and it was choppy...So I thought it might be the video driver
[23:37] <xubuntu24w> Is there something i'm missing? btw thanks for the help hehe
[23:37] <dchilano> but now I realize thats how the video was encoded :P
[23:37] <dchilano> I just pulled up some 4k videos and they play splendidly
[23:39] <knome> dchilano, yeah... and while i think youtube does that by default now, you can make sure you are using the html5 player whenever possible at http://youtube.com/html5
[23:40] <xubuntu24w> bump*
[23:40] <knome> xubuntu24w, no need to do that.
[23:40] <xubuntu24w> okay sorry, first time i'm in here :)
[23:41] <dchilano> Knome: I believe youtube implemented html5 player by default now
[23:42] <dchilano> or am i thinking of https with gmail?
[23:42] <knome> dchilano, as i said, i believe it's doing it already... but just to make sure.