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NoskcajWhich patch in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342893 should kwin take for the libinput transition?09:45
ubottuKDE bug 342893 in core "Build fails with libinput-0.8.0" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]09:45
lordievaderGood morning.09:48
ovidiu-florinMorning from Brussels beautiful people :D10:08
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Ah, you are already there, how nice ;)10:10
ovidiu-florinyeah10:10
ovidiu-florinit was a hell of a ride10:10
ovidiu-florin12 hours10:10
ovidiu-florinalmost10:10
ovidiu-florinBus -> plane -> bus -> tram10:10
lordievaderYou where coming from Romania right?10:10
ovidiu-florinyes10:11
ovidiu-florinbecause of the schedule, I had to take the plane from Budapest, Hungary10:11
lordievaderAh, we are going by train. For us it will be easy, Belgium is a neighbour.10:11
ovidiu-florinthat;'s a 4 hour drive10:11
lordievaderQuite a journey, indeed.10:11
ovidiu-florinso, lordievader I'll finaly get to meet you?10:12
sitterNoskcaj: for where what when?10:13
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Likely, yes :)10:14
ovidiu-florinawesome10:16
ovidiu-florinlordievader: when will you arrive?10:16
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Somewhere in the evening. We are leaving here around 17:30. Which will get us to the border by about 20:40. And from there I thought it was about an hour to get to Brussels.10:18
sitterNoskcaj: ah, 0.9 transition I presume ... the fix that was supposedly applied in kwin master would be the one we need. please do run this by mgraesslin@kde.org though, we don't want him getting angry by patching things without his knowledge ^^10:18
ovidiu-florinlordievader: here being?10:18
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Enschede.10:20
soee_good morning10:31
sitterRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9954655/ what do you reckon?11:23
sitteroh, suppose he's traveling11:23
sitterthat's the new output format for release_data I am thinking about11:24
sitteranother option, which might actually be more useful in future ventuers would be to dump the actual object tree itself meaning all objects need to be marshalable ... so each artifact block (i.e. released thing) would be comprised of a stringified project (which would be equal to the format one can use to manually define a project on the other end of tarme), a release which contains a stringified source block {vcs block} l10n block {vcs block} 11:26
sitterdocumetnation {vcs block}11:26
sitteralas, that is obviously substantially more verbose without much gain ^^11:26
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ovidiu-florinRiddell: are you around?12:21
ovidiu-florinlordievader: are you still around?12:30
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lordievaderovidiu-florin: For a little bit. Going to get some cash in a bit. What's up?12:52
ovidiu-florinat what time did you say you are ariving?12:53
lordievaderSomewhere around 10-11 pm I think.12:53
ovidiu-florinand are you going out with the guys this evening?12:53
ovidiu-florinsitter: are you comming?12:54
ovidiu-florinshadeslayer: ^12:54
ovidiu-florinyofel: ^^12:54
lordievaderI'm going to the beer event with my friends, I suppose I'll see you guys there.12:54
ovidiu-florinRiddell: said something about meeting tonight, or this evening12:54
ovidiu-florinwhen and where is the beer event?12:55
lordievaderovidiu-florin: https://fosdem.org/2015/beerevent/12:55
Mamarokovidiu-florin: first time in Brussels?12:56
ovidiu-florinMamarok: yes12:57
Mamarokthen be careful, the Belgian beer is often much stronger than others12:57
Mamarokand don't try to try them all, there are too many :)12:57
Mamarokwould probably take a lifetime12:57
lordievaderMamarok: He is still european :P12:58
ovidiu-florinI have some experience with beer12:58
Mamarokwell, I know a few Europeans who didn't know Belgian beer before12:58
ovidiu-florinmostly it's under bars tables, but it experience :D12:59
Mamarokovidiu-florin: experience with Belgian beer as well?12:59
Mamarokif not, take my advice, really12:59
ovidiu-florinI will, thank you12:59
lordievaderYeah, I see they are quite a bit stronger than your regular beer.12:59
lordievaderTime to get moneys.13:00
ovidiu-florinMamarok: are you coming?13:00
sitterovidiu-florin: no13:00
MamarokChimay Triple is not just " a bit" stronger :)13:00
Mamarokall trappist beers are much stronger13:01
shadeslayerovidiu-florin: I'm not13:01
ovidiu-florinsitter shadeslayer no to beer event or no to FOSDEM?13:01
shadeslayerI think ovidiu-florin gets a pass on the Belgian beer warning13:02
ovidiu-florinbecause of Țuică?13:03
ovidiu-florinshadeslayer: ^13:03
shadeslayeryeah13:03
ovidiu-florinI brought another bottle with me :D13:03
ovidiu-florin2 leeters this time13:03
ovidiu-florinto have enough :D13:03
shadeslayerjesus christ13:03
shadeslayerPeople drink enough beer at FOSDEM as it is13:04
shadeslayerthat will just kill them13:04
shadeslayerMaintainers dropping like flies xD13:04
shadeslayerovidiu-florin: I'm not coming to FOSDEM at all13:04
ovidiu-florinwell, this help to have pretty code and awesome speaches13:04
shadeslayerIf there's one thing I've learnt, FOSS is not good for your liver13:04
Mamarokhm, that name rings a bell...13:05
ovidiu-florinwhich name?13:05
MamarokŢuică :)13:05
* Mamarok also knows some Romanian13:06
Mamarokpeople, that is13:06
ovidiu-florinMamarok: it's Țuică, not Ţuică.13:06
ovidiu-florinThe Ţ and Ț are not the same13:07
Mamaroktell that to wikipedia, they wrote it like that :)13:07
ovidiu-florinlink please13:07
Mamarokhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C8%9Auic%C4%8313:07
Mamarokfirst word of the sentence13:07
Mamarokwhat's the difference in spelling?13:08
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ovidiu-florinshadeslayer: remember? "Normally, țuica is only consumed before the meal (traditionally every meal)"13:10
ovidiu-florinȚ is the romanian letter13:10
shadeslayer...13:10
ovidiu-florinŢ is a letter Microsoft invented in Win '9813:11
shadeslayerlol13:11
Mamaroksorry, I mean the difference in pronunciation13:11
ovidiu-florinand didn't fix untill Windows Vista13:11
Mamarokah, so it's just a wrong letter?13:11
ovidiu-florinyes13:11
ovidiu-florinthere's also Ș în romanian, with a comma13:12
Mamarokfunny :)13:12
shadeslayer'Close enough'13:12
ovidiu-florinand a s with a cedilla which is a turkish letter13:12
ovidiu-florinso MS took the cedilla and invented a new letter13:12
Mamarokis that like the Hungarion s?13:12
Mamarokhunarian*13:12
Mamarokgah, Hungarian*13:13
ovidiu-florinand since the Romanian government didn't react with enough disaster back then, beople got used to it, and some people still use the wrong version13:13
ovidiu-florinsince Win XP never got the font update13:13
ovidiu-florinnow there are hacks to make it right on XP, but not entirely official....13:14
_Groo_Riddell: ksyslog is still broken in ci when called through krunner13:14
_Groo_https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/dqG8BuRz13:14
Mamarokovidiu-florin: you didn't answer my question, how do you pronounce Ș ? Like the s in Hungarian?13:14
ovidiu-florinMamarok: you didn't answer, are you coming to FOSDEM?13:14
Mamarokno, too much work13:15
Mamarokhave to release Amarok 2.9 this weekend13:15
Mamarokand I am not done with my day job either13:15
ovidiu-florinMamarok: like the first sound when you say shut (up), like the "sh"13:15
* sitter hates svn :@13:16
ovidiu-florinsitter: you're not the only one13:16
Mamarokok, similar to the s in só, then13:18
BluesKajHi folks13:19
ovidiu-florinMamarok: are you hungarian?13:23
ovidiu-florinhy BluesKaj13:24
BluesKajhi ovidiu-florin13:24
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lordievadersitter: Git for the win :)13:51
Mamarokovidiu-florin: no, not at all, I only know some elements of Hungarian, one of my best friend is Hungarian13:56
Mamarokand I am interested in language in general13:56
pqatsiBUG Report: Using PPA (kubuntu-ppa/next, kubuntu-ppa/next-backports, kubuntu-ci/weekly), i got this issue: http://pastie.org/private/z6qtg7vrvqez0kswfwpbtq15:09
pqatsiHave some prevision of fix, like provide the libkf5globalaccel-* into plasma-workspace or split it in next-backport too...15:09
pqatsi?15:09
sitteryou cannot mix weekly and backports15:10
pqatsisitter: i must mix15:12
pqatsiweekly and next are incomplete each-other15:12
pqatsiI only got a entire kde system when use both 315:12
sitterwhat's missing in backports?15:12
pqatsiAlso, this is the unique trouble i had. The system is stable as a rock15:12
pqatsiNo no, the plasma-workspace is more updated in next-backport than in kubuntu-ci/weekly15:13
sitteryes, that's why you have the problem you have and why I said you can not mix the two15:13
pqatsiso it prefer the next-backport, but next-backport package also provides files from libkf5globalaccel15:13
sitterweekly integrates at a slower pace, hence why there is a conflict15:13
pqatsiBut does not register in Provides of dpkg system15:14
pqatsisitter: i know. its a bug because next-backport plasma-workspace package provides libkf5globalaccel but not reports in dpkg a correct Provides15:14
sitterthe libkf5globalaccel of backports doesn't have kglobalacceld15:14
pqatsiBecause if this package have this lib and also have a Provides: in it, dpkg will do exactly what i did15:15
sitterif you don't use weekly you don't have a conflict15:15
pqatsisitter: yeap, its just a debian/control issue15:15
sitteryou are not listening :P 15:15
sitterthere only is a conflict when you mix a CI frameworks with a backports workspace15:16
pqatsiso you suggest use ci-daily?15:16
_Groo_pqatsi: he suggests not to mix ci with backports15:16
pqatsisitter: my point is w/o next-backports, i cant get a entire working system15:16
_Groo_pqatsi: two different beasts15:17
_Groo_pqatsi: apps 14.12 werent backported to ci yet (utopic)15:17
sittereither you use backports, or you use CI, if one of the two is missing a package then you should point out which package is missing :P15:17
pqatsisitter: i cant tell a package in specific, i can install one by one. But ci + next does not provide a entire kde5 system - and i dont know why15:18
pqatsiKDE5 just worked well with backport packages together - and in dist-upgrade, it install a lot of packages15:19
pqatsi(new, not update)15:19
pqatsi_Groo_: Hmmm, and 15.04 base is stable for use15:20
pqatsi(Stable here == entire distro stable like weekly kde)15:20
pqatsi?15:20
BluesKajmy last kde upgrade on kubuntu 15.04 /plasma 5.2 left me with an orphaned control module error, so system settings is basically useless atm, amongst other problems16:17
soeeoh?16:21
BluesKajrunning recovery kernel 16:21
soeeBluesKaj: all works fine for me16:25
BluesKajstill messed up here16:26
BluesKajmaybe the new daily will fix this, since there are no more upgrades available for the present install, which is badly broken16:46
BluesKaj_I see an series of package upgrades is available, but I'm reluctant to run it since the last upgrade broke my setup so badly18:51
BluesKaj_reiinstalled the daily to / and now all seems fine so when it's safe to do so again I'll upgrade...dunno exactly how I'll know when that is , but I'm definitely going to wait for the all clear18:53
yofelovidiu-florin: i'm not at fosdem sadly18:55
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cyphermoxwhat would be the correct package for a bug in the panel's intellihide feature?22:39
cyphermoxplasma-desktop maybe?22:39
shadeslayercyphermox: plasmashell22:43
shadeslayercyphermox: for Plasma 522:43
shadeslayershould be reported upstream though22:44
cyphermoxthanks22:44
cyphermoxI'm not sure if it's plasma 5 or what22:44
shadeslayerhm, apt-cache policy plasma-workspace should tell you22:46
valoriedid the upgrade in 14.10 to Plasma 5.2 and the new windeco are cool22:56
valorieonly problem I had is that neither restart nor shutdown from menu would work22:57
valorieoddly, sudo shutdown now restarted22:58
valorierestart did restart from the login screen though, so maybe it was just an artefact of the upgrade22:58
valoriemenus seem to work now22:59
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